Re: ColdFusion J2EE mysterious error (still broken)

2005-05-13 Thread Thomas Chiverton
Odder and odder, it appears we are consistently getting the below, like 
WebLogic is trying to restart ColdFusion but making a total hash of it?

<13-May-2005 16:01:57 BST>   <101047> 
<[ServletContext(id=158529739,name=ceo_platform,context-path=)] /*: destroy>
<13-May-2005 16:01:57 BST>   <101047> 
<[ServletContext(id=158529739,name=ceo_platform,context-path=)] /*: init>
<13-May-2005 16:01:57 BST>   <101047> 
<[ServletContext(id=158529739,name=ceo_platform,context-path=)] /*: Using 
standard I/O>
<13-May-2005 16:02:00 BST>   <101047> 
<[ServletContext(id=158529739,name=ceo_platform,context-path=)] 
MapImageHelper: destroy>
<13-May-2005 16:02:00 BST>   <101047> 
<[ServletContext(id=158529739,name=ceo_platform,context-path=)] 
MapImageHelper: init>
<13-May-2005 16:02:03 BST>   <101047> 
<[ServletContext(id=158529739,name=ceo_platform,context-path=)] CfmServlet: 
init>

before our:

<13-May-2005 16:02:03 BST>   <101017> 
<[ServletContext(id=158529739,name=ceo_platform,context-path=)] Root cause of 
ServletException
java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
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Re: CF Blog shootout

2005-05-13 Thread Rick Root
Ray Champagne wrote:
> Can we get Blog Software that can read your mind and post automatically?

Is there a java object for that?  If not, I'm sure there must be a .NET 
object for it... I could integrate it into the BlueDragon.NET version of 
BlogCFM ;)

> Actually, scratch that.  Most things I normally think about should never 
> be in print.  :)

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SOT: Books

2005-05-13 Thread Chris Alvarado
Hello all,

 

Couldn’t really think of a better place to ask this question.

 

I have a friend who is a designer but is interested in beginning to learn CF.

 

He is pretty quick at picking up new concepts etc and of course I can help him 
quite a bit.

 

However, it has been so long since I looked into beginner level CF / SQL books 
that I don’t even know where to start him.

 

Can anyone recommend some good beginner CF and MS SQL books?

 

Does the CF WACK contain this kind of information?

 

It’s important to highlight the fact that he doesn’t really have any previous 
knowledge of web DEVELOPMENT, so something that is meant for true beginners is 
preferable.

 

Thanks everyone!

 

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[ application developer ]

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Looping over Form.Fieldnames

2005-05-13 Thread SStewart
Yeah, I know “He’s back again” :-)

 

Anyways, I’m trying loop over a set of form fields, stopping the loop when I 
hit a specific blank field. (This field is automatically populated from another 
form for each record the user wants to insert, it could be 1 it could be as 
many as 9.

 

There are check box fields that may or may not show up. Which is why the 
IsDefined is there. However I get the error at the bottom.

 

Any suggestions?

 





 









INSERT INTO projpart

(apk_pptid

,fk_clnid

,fk_prjid

,client

,company

,ecs_office

,invoice

,part

,concrete

,medfr)

VALUES

('#guid#'

,'#qry_getClientInfo.apk_clnid#'

,'#cookie.PRJID#'

,'#attributes["clientID" & i]#'

,'#attributes["coName" & i]#'

, 
'#qry_getClientInfo.ecs_office#'

,#attributes["invoice" & 
i]#

,#attributes["part" & i]#

,'#attributes["concrete" & i]#'

,'#attributes["medfr" & i]#')







 

 



Invalid CFML construct found on line 15 at column 62. 

 

ColdFusion was looking at the following text:invoiceThe CFML compiler 
was processing:an expression beginning with "IsDefined", on line 15, 
column 39.This message is usually caused by a problem in the expressions 
structure.a cfif tag beginning on line 15, column 34.a cfif tag 
beginning on line 15, column 34. 

 

 

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CFCompile

2005-05-13 Thread Qasim Rasheed
Hello everyone,

I was testing sourceless deployment for a Fusebox 4.1 application and
it doesn't seem to work. All the configuration file in Fusebox like
"fusebox.xml.cfm" or "circuit.xml.cfm" are essentially xml with a cfm
extension, however the cfcompile utility converts them to jibirsh as
well which makes it unusable. Is there is a way that I can tell
cfcompile to omit certain files?

Thanks

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Re: CF Blog shootout

2005-05-13 Thread Rick Root
For what it's worth, I wasn't really comparing blogcfm to any other 
product.  Just listing out the reasons why I wrote blogCFM.  I didn't 
mean to imply that the other apps didn't have those features I listed.

  - Rick

Jake . wrote:
> Just wanted to quickly clarify a few things. Rick you were probably looking 
> at version 3.5 for the BF feature list. 
> 
> 
>>These are the reasons why I wrote my own blog app as opposed to using 
>>Ray's or buying Jake's:
>>
>> - Multiple blogs in a single database / file structure
> 
> 
> This is going to happen in the next release. The database structure is there, 
> I just need to work out the UI issues and tweak the code (then test like 
> mad). I didn't want to hold up the 4.0 release though. 
> 
> 
>> - I like free =)  BlogCFC is free, but BlogFusion is not.
> 
> 
> Not free for commercial use, no. But with the 4.0 launch, I've made the 
> pricing for non-commercial/non-profit/user group license pretty dang cheap - 
> a purchase off my Amazon wishlist, which includes items as low as $5.
> 
> 
>> - I wanted more search engine friendly URLS.  You know, URL's
>>   that don't contain UUIDs =)
> 
> 
> Like Ray, I'm just not convinced that there is much need for this. It's more 
> of judgement call at this point, since (as I understand it) Google and other 
> major search engines can handle query strings just fine.
> 
> That said, I've been thinking about changing it just to have it changed. 
> Maybe in an upcoming release.
> 
> 
>> - Integrated HTML editor for posting
> 
> 
> I actually looked at this quite a bit. I research a number of blog systems, 
> as wel las conducted some HIGHLY informal research. I even threw together 
> quick demo and had my friends run through it. Across the board, the request 
> was to just make it simple. I've included some basic options like 
> bold/italic/link. I also figured it was a better way to go, since HTML tends 
> to create much much larger entries in the database per comment. Again, 
> judgement call really.
> 
> 
>> - Integrated file manager for uploading images and stuff.
> 
> 
> You definetely have me here. Your file manager is a terrific application. 
> 
> 
>> - More security options to prevent comment spam.
> 
> 
> Yeah, this was priority number one for me. I've added comment moderation, 
> email verification (click link in email before comment goes up), and captcha 
> requirement. All of which can be toggled on/off.
> 
> 
>> - photo blogs
> 
> 
> Version 4.0 now includes a photoblog built in.
> 
> 
>> - support multiple CFML engines *AND* multiple databases.
> 
> 
> Version 4.0 now supports Access, MS SQL, and MySQL. I've not tested against 
> BD yet, however. 
> 
> Rick, you have a great app, and I've been impressed with how fast it's been 
> created. Not meaning to try to play one-up at all, just want to make sure 
> that things are clear!
> 
> Jake
> blogfusion.com


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RE: Some ideas on payment methods for my cart?

2005-05-13 Thread Dave Watts
> I'm working on my shopping cart payment methods page, and 
> wondered if you guys had some ideas on a good way to use the 
> new flash forms for selecting a payment method, and 
> automatically having the needed form display on the page so 
> the user doesnt have to click here there and yonder to enter 
> his info. 
> 
> Like he selects credit card, and voila, it instantly 
> displays, or he selects money order and voila, there's the 
> money order info.

You might take a look at some of the examples of programmatically moving
from one tab to another within a tab selector (or within an accordion if you
prefer that). There are some good examples linked from
http://www.cfform.com/.

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CF5 - error when trying to create data source

2005-05-13 Thread Earl, George
Any ideas what could be causing our staging server to frequently give us
this error message when we try to create a data source?

**
Error Diagnostic Information
Request canceled or ignored by server Server busy or unable to fulfill
request. The server is unable to fulfill your request due to extremely high
traffic or an unexpected internal error. Please attempt your request again
(if you are repeatedly unsuccessful you should notify the site
administrator). (Location Code: 26)
**


This happens when trying to create both Oracle and DB2 data sources.

To clear it and be able to create a data source we have to stop and restart
the CF Application Server service or sometimes we have to reboot the server.

This server gets very little traffic since we use it only for integration
testing. Our production server, which is basically a clone of the staging
server, gives the same error but only once in a blue moon.

We're running CF 5 Enterprise for Windows on Win2K Advanced Server.

Thanks!

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Re: ColdFusion J2EE mysterious error (still broken)

2005-05-13 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 12 May 2005 14:50, Mark A Kruger wrote:
> speculate as well as anyone :) Your server runs until it throws an error.

Feel free to think out loud, you might hit the thing we haven't.

> But it can't init the class it needs to handle the error.. subsequent
> errors fail because there is no handler.

It's more like it throws an exception in ServiceFactory that isn't logged, but 
blows it up. I think.

> So the question is why can't it 
> init the error handler.  How about permissions. Does your CF server have
> rights to the JVM log directory? Is it running on a system or a user

It's running as root, and has the MM recommended changes made to 
weblogic.xml's security policy to basically grant the application full 
rights.

> account? If it can't write a file (like coldfusion-err.log) 

This file doesn't currently exist on the filesystem. Is it a normal CF file 
that would appear in WEB-INF/cfusion/logs ?

> till it had anything to flush to the file and then fail. I would check the
> JVM's runtime/logs (or wherever your j2ee server logs from the runtime).

Yeah done that, zilch :-(
The only slightly odd thing is that immediately before the initial 
ExceptionInInitializerError we have:
<13-May-2005 06:49:01 BST>  <> <101047> <[ServletContext
(id=157796498,name=ceo_platform,context-path=)] CfmServlet: init>
Now, shouldn't that already be deployed and init'ed, as the site had been 
serving pages for hours before that ?
Also, I was still receiving messages from in scheduler.log, indicating that it 
was trying to start new requests processing, so that part of the server at 
least was still running.

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[SOT] Reports in HTML with CF

2005-05-13 Thread Michel Deloux
Hi all

I'm need to create reports in HTML mode. But how to use pagebreaks,
headers in that pagebreaks, footers, and so with HTML? Do you have any
example about how to use HTML in reports with CF?

Cheers

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French CF documentation

2005-05-13 Thread CFDEV
Hi all,
 
Some months ago, someone on this list was looking for french CF ressources..
I was woundering if he found some because we have som issue with CF and
verity on the french side of our site and would like to read some docs on
it.. english docs is quite ok for what we need but we are looking for the
french counterpart of it.
 
Thanks
 
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Radio Button Error on Server?!?

2005-05-13 Thread Les Mizzell
What the heck?

I've got a very simple form with a simple radio button:

 Yes
 No

Typical Insert code (SQL Server) on the form that I've used 1000 times 
before and I know it's correct. The "Yes/No" is going into a "char(3)" 
field.


INSERT INTO dbo.myTABLE
 (safety_required)
   VALUES
('#FORM.safety_required#')


(Simplified Version)

Works as expected locally and inserts in the database (RDS) just fine. 
No problems.

Put it out on the server, and I get:

"Form Entries Incomplete or Invalid
One or more problems exist with the data you have entered.
* Yes"


This is a shared server, so that's all I'm going to get for error codes. 
Since it's working perfectly locally I've got no freaking idea.

What the hell could cause this? I'm not 100% sure what version of 
Coldfusion they're using, but the code being used should work on anything.

Now, maybe I've been awake too long with no coffee refills, but, uhh, 
huh? I'm not *that* stupid - I don't think...

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jrun servlet error

2005-05-13 Thread Phill B
I passed a value that contains a %  to a CFC that is expecting a
string and got a JRun Servlet Error 500 null error or a 500 String
index out of range. Any idea why a %  would cause this?

I'm trying to get some decent error handling in my site but this one
slips right by every thing I have so far.

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RE: Books

2005-05-13 Thread Matt Osbun
Sybex's Mastering Coldfusion books are pretty good.
You can take a look at the MX book here:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0782141242/qid=1116002904/
sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-3951185-7918351?v=glance&s=books


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Health Systems, International



-Original Message-
From: Chris Alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: Books


Hello all,

 

Couldn't really think of a better place to ask this question.

 

I have a friend who is a designer but is interested in beginning to
learn CF.

 

He is pretty quick at picking up new concepts etc and of course I can
help him quite a bit.

 

However, it has been so long since I looked into beginner level CF / SQL
books that I don't even know where to start him.

 

Can anyone recommend some good beginner CF and MS SQL books?

 

Does the CF WACK contain this kind of information?

 

It's important to highlight the fact that he doesn't really have any
previous knowledge of web DEVELOPMENT, so something that is meant for
true beginners is preferable.

 

Thanks everyone!

 

-chris.alvarado

[ application developer ]

4 Guys Interactive, Inc

 


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RE: Some ideas on payment methods for my cart?

2005-05-13 Thread Mark A Kruger
lol don't we all wish - but then I guess we'd be flippin burgers for a
living...

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: re: Some ideas on payment methods for my cart?


why you would use the all inclusive  tag of course!

~Dave the disruptor~


From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 7:47 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Some ideas on payment methods for my cart?

I'm working on my shopping cart payment methods page, and wondered if you
guys had some ideas on a good way to use the new flash forms for selecting a
payment method, and automatically having the needed form display on the page
so the user doesnt have to click here there and yonder to enter his info.

Like he selects credit card, and voila, it instantly displays, or he selects
money order and voila, there's the money order info.

Thanks,
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copying scheduled tasks to another machine

2005-05-13 Thread Protoculture
We have a number of scheduled tasks that need to be copied over to our new 
server. Is there a fast way of doing this? Are they stored in a particular 
directory or xml file that we may simply copy over, or is this going to be a 
manual job?

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Date/Time Question

2005-05-13 Thread Jim Rathmann
I thought I posted this question yesterday but it doesn't seem that it ever was 
posted. 

The question is how to convert this date/time field that I receive in a 
webservice to a standard date/time.

The value I pull is in this format: "2005-04-07T13:29:00.000-04:00"

You cannot use the DateFormat in ColdFusion on it without getting an error 
saying it is not a valid dateformat. I need to be able to store it to SQL 
server but when I try it as is I get an error about Incorrect syntax near 
'T13:'. 

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
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Test

2005-05-13 Thread Scott Mulholland
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Re: Looping over Form.Fieldnames

2005-05-13 Thread Joe Rinehart
Scott,

Maybe give:

,#attributes["invoice" & i]#

a whirl?

Cheers,

Joe

On 5/13/05, SStewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, I know "He's back again" :-)
> 
> Anyways, I'm trying loop over a set of form fields, stopping the loop when I 
> hit a specific blank field. (This field is automatically populated from 
> another form for each record the user wants to insert, it could be 1 it could 
> be as many as 9.
> 
> There are check box fields that may or may not show up. Which is why the 
> IsDefined is there. However I get the error at the bottom.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> INSERT INTO projpart
> 
> (apk_pptid
> 
> ,fk_clnid
> 
> ,fk_prjid
> 
> ,client
> 
> ,company
> 
> ,ecs_office
> 
>  IsDefined("attributes["invoice" & i]") eq "Yes">,invoice
> 
> ,part
> 
> ,concrete
> 
> ,medfr)
> 
> VALUES
> 
> ('#guid#'
> 
> 
> ,'#qry_getClientInfo.apk_clnid#'
> 
> ,'#cookie.PRJID#'
> 
> ,'#attributes["clientID" & 
> i]#'
> 
> ,'#attributes["coName" & i]#'
> 
> , 
> '#qry_getClientInfo.ecs_office#'
> 
>  IsDefined("attributes["invoice" & i]") eq "Yes">,#attributes["invoice" & 
> i]#
> 
> ,#attributes["part" & i]#
> 
> ,'#attributes["concrete" & 
> i]#'
> 
> ,'#attributes["medfr" & i]#')
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Invalid CFML construct found on line 15 at column 62.
> 
> ColdFusion was looking at the following text:invoiceThe CFML 
> compiler was processing:an expression beginning with "IsDefined", on 
> line 15, column 39.This message is usually caused by a problem in the 
> expressions structure.a cfif tag beginning on line 15, column 34.a 
> cfif tag beginning on line 15, column 34.
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Flash Forms in CF MX7

2005-05-13 Thread dsmith
I just installed CF MX 7 and wanted to try out the flash forms. 

I tried using the code below:

 

name:  


  password
  
  


  



When i call the page nothing but blank space appears, when I right click I get 
a 'Movie not loaded' Flash player text.

Is there something on the server not installed correctly?  I did a standard 
install.  Or is there something wrong with the above code?

Thanks,
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WDDX from CF 5 to CF MX 6.1

2005-05-13 Thread Anthony Dimino
hi liere,

It works! Thanks so much for your help.
Yes, there are other developers still working with spectra!

> hi anthony,
> 
> we faced the same problems when migrating from spectra1.5.
> 1/oracle8i/cf5 to spectra1.5.3/oracle8i/CFMX
> 
> for us the culprits are control characters inside a CF5 wddx paket, 
> which
> CFMX cannot deserialize anymore,
> 
> to see if it is the same for you, try this snippet
> we just do a replace in the wddx before deserializing it,
> then CFMX should do it
> 
> - get the wddx from anywhere (CF5 style)
> -  "ALL") >
> - deserialize the wddx with the tag of your choice
> 
> we have ready a routine which is able to patch a whole DB, so that 
> CFMX can handle former CF5 wddx pakets
> 
> just let me know if this did the trick for you
> 
> besides: good to hear that there are other developers still working 
> with spectra,
> in the moment we are migrating our apps (we do a web content 
> management system with spectra, 230 spectra apps) to CFMX, the main 
> problems we are facing, have to do with the CLOB datatype in oracle 
> and poor performance on any table containing CLOB´s, there´s not one 
> driver available in the moment which does a good job there, but it 
> looks like we solved this problems in the last few days, we banned the 
> CLOB and use LONG instead, the performance is incredible now, we never 
> see our apps ran like this before,

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Re: Date/Time Question

2005-05-13 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Jim Rathmann wrote:
> I thought I posted this question yesterday but it doesn't seem that it ever 
> was posted. 
> 
> The question is how to convert this date/time field that I receive in a 
> webservice to a standard date/time.
> 
> The value I pull is in this format: "2005-04-07T13:29:00.000-04:00"
> 
> You cannot use the DateFormat in ColdFusion on it without getting an error 
> saying it is not a valid dateformat.

CF doesn't recognize ISO formatted dates, that is a long standing 
enhancement request: http://www.macromedia.com/go/wish/

With simply dropping sub-second precision and the timezone info:
cfdate = ListFirst(Replace(theDate,"T"," "),".")

Jochem

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Re: copying scheduled tasks to another machine

2005-05-13 Thread Bryan Stevenson
I'm not sure if you can move thembut what I've done is programtically 
setup my scheduled tasks (cfschedule).  Then all ya gotta do is run that CFM 
file(s) on the appropriate server and voila! your scheduled tasks are 
"moved" ;-)

HTH

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RE: Some ideas on payment methods for my cart?

2005-05-13 Thread dave
you can do it with actionscript 

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 1:06 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Some ideas on payment methods for my cart? 

> I'm working on my shopping cart payment methods page, and 
> wondered if you guys had some ideas on a good way to use the 
> new flash forms for selecting a payment method, and 
> automatically having the needed form display on the page so 
> the user doesnt have to click here there and yonder to enter 
> his info. 
> 
> Like he selects credit card, and voila, it instantly 
> displays, or he selects money order and voila, there's the 
> money order info.

You might take a look at some of the examples of programmatically moving
from one tab to another within a tab selector (or within an accordion if you
prefer that). There are some good examples linked from
http://www.cfform.com/.

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Re: Date/Time Question

2005-05-13 Thread Sergey Croitor
JR> The value I pull is in this format:
JR> "2005-04-07T13:29:00.000-04:00"

Truncate the string to a dot(.) and replace "T" to a space " "
"2005-04-07 13:29:00" is a correct date format for most SQL servers.

JR> I need to be
JR> able to store it to SQL server but when I try it as is I get an
JR> error about Incorrect syntax near 'T13:'. 


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Re: Books

2005-05-13 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Yep...CFWACK all the way...did ya really have to ask that one ;-)

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re: Flash Forms in CF MX7

2005-05-13 Thread dave
you cant use some of those p tags and a few other things and its not just your 
puter, just needs to be done better, try this:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 12:53 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Flash Forms in CF MX7 

I just installed CF MX 7 and wanted to try out the flash forms. 

I tried using the code below:

name: 

 password

When i call the page nothing but blank space appears, when I right click I get 
a 'Movie not loaded' Flash player text.

Is there something on the server not installed correctly? I did a standard 
install. Or is there something wrong with the above code?

Thanks,
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Looping over Form.Fieldnames

2005-05-13 Thread Stan Winchester
Quotes look messed up, and do you really want the condition to be "neq '"?

> Yeah, I know ?He?s back again? :-)
> 
> Anyways, I?m trying loop over a set of form fields, stopping the loop 
> when I hit a specific blank field. (This field is automatically 
> populated from another form for each record the user wants to insert, 
> it could be 1 it could be as many as 9.
> 
> There are check box fields that may or may not show up. Which is why 
> the IsDefined is there. However I get the error at the bottom.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: ColdFusion J2EE mysterious error (still broken)

2005-05-13 Thread Mark A Kruger
It's not really a CF log - more of a java log to standard logging  IO - on a
default installation it's in "/runtime/lib/logs/".

-Mark


-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 3:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion J2EE mysterious error (still broken)


On Thursday 12 May 2005 14:50, Mark A Kruger wrote:
> speculate as well as anyone :) Your server runs until it throws an error.

Feel free to think out loud, you might hit the thing we haven't.

> But it can't init the class it needs to handle the error.. subsequent
> errors fail because there is no handler.

It's more like it throws an exception in ServiceFactory that isn't logged,
but
blows it up. I think.

> So the question is why can't it
> init the error handler.  How about permissions. Does your CF server have
> rights to the JVM log directory? Is it running on a system or a user

It's running as root, and has the MM recommended changes made to
weblogic.xml's security policy to basically grant the application full
rights.

> account? If it can't write a file (like coldfusion-err.log)

This file doesn't currently exist on the filesystem. Is it a normal CF file
that would appear in WEB-INF/cfusion/logs ?

> till it had anything to flush to the file and then fail. I would check the
> JVM's runtime/logs (or wherever your j2ee server logs from the runtime).

Yeah done that, zilch :-(
The only slightly odd thing is that immediately before the initial
ExceptionInInitializerError we have:
<13-May-2005 06:49:01 BST>  <> <101047> <[ServletContext
(id=157796498,name=ceo_platform,context-path=)] CfmServlet: init>
Now, shouldn't that already be deployed and init'ed, as the site had been
serving pages for hours before that ?
Also, I was still receiving messages from in scheduler.log, indicating that
it
was trying to start new requests processing, so that part of the server at
least was still running.

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RE: Date/Time Question

2005-05-13 Thread Dawson, Michael
Did you try any of the Parse Date/Time functions?

If that doesn't work, you can always build a function to parse the
date/time for you.  This format looks like it should be consistent for
all dates/times.

M!ke 

-Original Message-
From: Jim Rathmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Date/Time Question

I thought I posted this question yesterday but it doesn't seem that it
ever was posted. 

The question is how to convert this date/time field that I receive in a
webservice to a standard date/time.

The value I pull is in this format: "2005-04-07T13:29:00.000-04:00"

You cannot use the DateFormat in ColdFusion on it without getting an
error saying it is not a valid dateformat. I need to be able to store it
to SQL server but when I try it as is I get an error about Incorrect
syntax near 'T13:'. 

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
   Jim

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Re: Looping over Form.Fieldnames

2005-05-13 Thread Joe Rinehart
Maybe give:

,#attributes["invoice" & i]#

a whirl?

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Performance questions ...

2005-05-13 Thread Charles Heizer
Hello,
I'm looking to make my internal site as fast a possible running CFMX 7.
Right now I'm running CFMX7 on Linux in the Server configuration mode with
the Apache web configuration.

My main performance issue has to do with a set of LDAP tree controls which
are array based; and according to the debug info I'm averaging about 2700ms
on that page. 

I was wondering if anyone has done any performance testing to see if
Linux/Apache is faster than Windows2003/IIS or should I use the J2EE config
with JRUN to improve performance.

Any and all suggestions are welcome.

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Re: copying scheduled tasks to another machine

2005-05-13 Thread Qasim Rasheed
Have you tried using a ColdFusion Archive (CAR) via CF Administrator?


On 5/13/05, Protoculture <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We have a number of scheduled tasks that need to be copied over to our new 
> server. Is there a fast way of doing this? Are they stored in a particular 
> directory or xml file that we may simply copy over, or is this going to be a 
> manual job?
> 
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Re: CFCompile

2005-05-13 Thread Sean Corfield
On 5/13/05, Qasim Rasheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was testing sourceless deployment for a Fusebox 4.1 application and
> it doesn't seem to work.

Because it compiles your config files to Java bytecode - the danger of
using a .cfm extension for files that are not CFML!

> Is there is a way that I can tell
> cfcompile to omit certain files?

Rename the files to fusebox.xml and circuit.xml, run cfcompile, then
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OT: TMT Validator

2005-05-13 Thread Massimo, Tiziana e Federica
This is my latest toy. It's not strictly CF related (at least until I'll
write the CFML equivalent), but it can be handy to people that build web
applications:
http://www.massimocorner.com/validator/

There is quite a good amount of material over there. If you want to see it
in action:
http://www.massimocorner.com/validator/samples/generic.htm

Among the most interesting features:
http://www.massimocorner.com/validator/samples/filters.htm
http://www.massimocorner.com/validator/samples/image_upload.htm
http://www.massimocorner.com/validator/samples/custom_error.htm


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RE: Radio Button Error on Server?!?

2005-05-13 Thread Montgomery Chris Contr AFSFC/SFPA
Les,

I think you're hitting against CF's built-in form validation that runs
server-side. You should be able to get around this by renaming your form
fields something like "safetyrequired" or "requiresafety" or
"require_safety". What's happening is that when the form is submitted, CF
executes its form validation routine on the fields that end in "_required"
to see if a value is entered.  Don't know which CF version you're running,
but the explanation about this in the CF docs for version 5 is on the bottom
of this page:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/5.0/Developing_ColdFusion_Applicat
ions/dynamicVars4.htm#1096247

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Subject: Radio Button Error on Server?!? 


What the heck?

I've got a very simple form with a simple radio button:

 Yes
 No

[snip]

Put it out on the server, and I get:

"Form Entries Incomplete or Invalid
One or more problems exist with the data you have entered.
* Yes"

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How can I avoid Evaluate() function?

2005-05-13 Thread Phill B
Is there any better way of doing this?




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Re: How can I avoid Evaluate() function?

2005-05-13 Thread Barney Boisvert
#application[cookie.country & "Rate"]#

cheers,
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> Is there any better way of doing this?
> 
>  name="exchangeRate"
> value="#Evaluate("application." & cookie.country & "Rate")#">
> 
> --
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Re: Performance questions ...

2005-05-13 Thread Sean Corfield
On 5/13/05, Charles Heizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone has done any performance testing to see if
> Linux/Apache is faster than Windows2003/IIS or should I use the J2EE config
> with JRUN to improve performance.

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Re: copying scheduled tasks to another machine

2005-05-13 Thread Sean Corfield
On 5/13/05, Protoculture <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We have a number of scheduled tasks that need to be copied over to our new 
> server. Is there a fast way of doing this? Are they stored in a particular 
> directory or xml file that we may simply copy over, or is this going to be a 
> manual job?

Create a CAR file in the CF Admin containing your schedules tasks.
Copy that .car file to the new server and deploy it (again, via the CF
Admin).

I just migrated a bunch of stuff using this approach when I upgraded
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RE: Looping over Form.Fieldnames

2005-05-13 Thread SStewart
That worked, Thanks Joe

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Subject: Re: Looping over Form.Fieldnames
Importance: Low

Maybe give:

,#attributes["invoice" & i]#

a whirl?

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Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Will Tomlinson
Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me. 

What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear? 

And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer? 

Thanks!

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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Douglas Knudsen
ur right, way OT, unless we r to get free ones. In that case, both. 
 DK

 On 5/13/05, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me.
> 
> What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear?
> 
> And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Will
> 
> 

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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread jonese
grey :) otherwise white
 do i get a free one for answering?
 jonese

 On 5/13/05, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me.
> 
> What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear?
> 
> And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Will
> 
> 

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Re: Radio Button Error on Server?!?

2005-05-13 Thread Les Mizzell
Montgomery Chris Contr AFSFC/SFPA wrote:
> Les,
> 
> I think you're hitting against CF's built-in form validation that runs
> server-side. 


That did it.

Changing form vars "safety_required" to "safetyreq" did the trick. I was 
tearing my hair out because it wasn't giving me a problem locally

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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Weeg
depends.

White as an undershirt

Black as an outershirt :)

tw

On 5/13/05, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me.
> 
> What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear?
> 
> And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Will
> 
> 

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RE: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Matt Osbun
Cliched as it sounds, Black, Black.

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Subject: Man, this is so OT...


Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me. 

What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear? 

And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer? 

Thanks!

Will



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RE: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Nathan C. Smith
Grey is what I wear, white is what I would choose.  I thought grey shirts
and dark pants were a geek uniform.

More importantly is the size.  2X or 3X

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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Will Tomlinson
Sweeet! Keep it comin guys. I really appreciate it!

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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Charles Heizer
Black


On 5/13/05 12:27 PM, "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> depends.
> 
> White as an undershirt
> 
> Black as an outershirt :)
> 
> tw
> 
> On 5/13/05, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me.
>> 
>> What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear?
>> 
>> And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Will
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Jerry Johnson
black in winter, or while working in the garage, white in summer

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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Greg Morphis
Black

On 5/13/05, Charles Heizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Black
> 
> 
> On 5/13/05 12:27 PM, "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > depends.
> >
> > White as an undershirt
> >
> > Black as an outershirt :)
> >
> > tw
> >
> > On 5/13/05, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me.
> >>
> >> What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear?
> >>
> >> And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Will
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: Performance questions ...

2005-05-13 Thread Charles Heizer
Thanks,
The concurrent traffic is not going to be more than 10 to 20 users at a
time.

Are there any good docs that cover writing more efficient code? I also
remember somebody saying that cfscript doing a function if faster than using
a cffunction tag. Is this true?

Thanks,
- Charles


On 5/13/05 12:05 PM, "Sean Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 5/13/05, Charles Heizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I was wondering if anyone has done any performance testing to see if
>> Linux/Apache is faster than Windows2003/IIS or should I use the J2EE config
>> with JRUN to improve performance.
> 
> The answer is: it depends.
> 
> It depends entirely on what exactly your application does and how much
> concurrent traffic you get and... many other factors.
> 
> If you have done profiling under load and identified some bottlenecks
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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Clint Tredway
white under, black over or just black

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> 
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RE: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Matthew Small
White

- Matt Small

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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Jim Campbell
Free ones from software/hardware vendors.  If it's a big-time vendor, 
you might even be able to land polo shirts (Thanks, HP!)

- Jim

Will Tomlinson wrote:

>Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me. 
>
>What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear? 
>
>And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer? 
>
>Thanks!
>
>Will
>
>

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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Ray Champagne
White is professional if wearing a button up shirt w/o a tie.  Grey is 
acceptable, too.

Black is for going to a concert.  Not for client meetings.

I get all my wardrobe advice from my wife, who works in the fashion 
industry, when I am going to be meeting with a client.  On the other 
days of the week, I wear horribly bad clothing.  Oh, and I NEVER shave 
unless I have to.  :)

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> 
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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> depends.

> White as an undershirt

> Black as an outershirt :)

> tw

That's me. I wear white undershirts religiously (ever since Navy
boot-camp) and generally prefer my black overshirts. Though a good
forest green is another favorite for me.



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RE: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread SStewart
Black, long sleeve, usually with the name of some obscure European metal band.

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Subject: Man, this is so OT...
Importance: Low

Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me. 

What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear? 

And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer? 

Thanks!

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RE: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Steve Brownlee
> What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear? 

Primary colors.  Favorites are red and blue

> And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer? 

Greatly depends on the style.  If it has a cool, easily visible, logo, then
black (otherwise I never wear black anything - it's depressing).  If it's
plain or has a small logo, then white.


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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Will Tomlinson
Excellent! This is really givin' me a good picture. 

Thanks,
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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Joe Rinehart
Either black with a white "Move to CF-Community" logo, or white with a
black "Move to CF-Community" logo. ;)

-Joe


On 5/13/05, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me.
> 
> What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear?
> 
> And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Will
> 
> 

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Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread David Critchley
Black.  I would go for white too, but it has to be a really nice shirt for me 
to choose white.

>Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me. 
>
>What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear? 
>
>And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer? 
>
>Thanks!
>
>Will

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Re: How can I avoid Evaluate() function?

2005-05-13 Thread Al Everett
Which begs the question: Are there any variable scopes left that
cannot be referenced using array notation?

On 5/13/05, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #application[cookie.country & "Rate"]#
> 
> cheers,
> barneyb
> 
> On 5/13/05, Phill B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there any better way of doing this?
> >
> >  > name="exchangeRate"
> > value="#Evaluate("application." & cookie.country & "Rate")#">
> >
> > --
> > Phillip B.
> >
> 
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Re: Performance questions ...

2005-05-13 Thread Douglas Knudsen
On 5/13/05, Charles Heizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Thanks,
> The concurrent traffic is not going to be more than 10 to 20 users at a
> time.
> 
> Are there any good docs that cover writing more efficient code? 

 ugh, tons of them. Try a grad level Algorithms and Analysis text :) 
 Have you tried caching on this page you are speaking of? 
 DK

I also
> remember somebody saying that cfscript doing a function if faster than 
> using
> a cffunction tag. Is this true?
> 
> Thanks,
> - Charles
> 
> 
> On 5/13/05 12:05 PM, "Sean Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On 5/13/05, Charles Heizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I was wondering if anyone has done any performance testing to see if
> >> Linux/Apache is faster than Windows2003/IIS or should I use the J2EE 
> config
> >> with JRUN to improve performance.
> >
> > The answer is: it depends.
> >
> > It depends entirely on what exactly your application does and how much
> > concurrent traffic you get and... many other factors.
> >
> > If you have done profiling under load and identified some bottlenecks
> > in your code, then you need to refactor the code to improve the
> > performance.
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RE: How can I avoid Evaluate() function?

2005-05-13 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Al Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 4:03 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: How can I avoid Evaluate() function?
> 
> Which begs the question: Are there any variable scopes left that
> cannot be referenced using array notation?

Nope.

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RE: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 3:22 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Man, this is so OT...
> 
> Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me.
> 
> What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear?

Anything that Caveman Clothing produces.

I've only worn their shirts for about 8 years now and I see no reason to
stop.  ;^)

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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Tony Weeg
so will.

the reason for this post was

> >Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me.
> >

and "trust you" about what?

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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Gruss Gott
> Tony wrote:
> depends.
> 
> White as an undershirt
> 
> Black as an outershirt :)
> 


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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Ray Champagne
MUst be that boot camp thing with me too.

White is the only color you should wear as an undershirt.  Although, I 
have graduated from the v-neck to a crew neck, that is still imbedded in 
my brain.

S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
>>depends.
> 
> 
>>White as an undershirt
> 
> 
>>Black as an outershirt :)
> 
> 
>>tw
> 
> 
> That's me. I wear white undershirts religiously (ever since Navy
> boot-camp) and generally prefer my black overshirts. Though a good
> forest green is another favorite for me.
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Dawson, Michael
Black makes the wearer look thinner, so I would say black, unless it was
100 degrees outside, then I would say white.

Black also hides the tomato stains from the local Italian eatery.

M!ke 

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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:22 PM
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Subject: Man, this is so OT...

Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me. 

What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear? 

And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer? 

Thanks!

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Re: CFCompile

2005-05-13 Thread Qasim Rasheed
Sean,

Thanks for the response. Wouldn't it be nice if we can give some kind
of argument to cfcompile to omit certain .cfm files because I guess
the same will apply to majority of frameworks, like Mach-II, Tartan,
Model-Glue etc.

Regards

On 5/13/05, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/13/05, Qasim Rasheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was testing sourceless deployment for a Fusebox 4.1 application and
> > it doesn't seem to work.
> 
> Because it compiles your config files to Java bytecode - the danger of
> using a .cfm extension for files that are not CFML!
> 
> > Is there is a way that I can tell
> > cfcompile to omit certain files?
> 
> Rename the files to fusebox.xml and circuit.xml, run cfcompile, then
> rename the back to fusebox.xml.cfm and circuit.xml.cfm.
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RE: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Dawson, Michael
Same here with no shaving unless absolutely necessary.  A VP at this
school once said how sharp can a person be if he looks like an un-shaven
bum.

I keep my Garanimals like up-to-date in my closet.  No problems with bad
color choices.

A 71-year-old IT director/programmer once said that I should wear a tie
because how sharp can I be, if I don't look sharp?

So, I wore exercise shorts and a sleevless shirt to the office today.  I
changed into my Mr. Rogers' clothes when I got here.  I changed back at
lunch to drive the convertible around and get a tan.

When I got back, I only put my dress shirt back on.  I'm still in my
shorts, but no one can see me with my office arrangement.

In another hour, if I'm not noticed, I'm going to lose the shorts and
become "Code Commando".

M!ke 

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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Man, this is so OT...

White is professional if wearing a button up shirt w/o a tie.  Grey is
acceptable, too.

Black is for going to a concert.  Not for client meetings.

I get all my wardrobe advice from my wife, who works in the fashion
industry, when I am going to be meeting with a client.  On the other
days of the week, I wear horribly bad clothing.  Oh, and I NEVER shave
unless I have to.  :)

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RE: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Dawson, Michael
May I ask why you ask? 

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Excellent! This is really givin' me a good picture. 

Thanks,
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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> MUst be that boot camp thing with me too.

> White is the only color you should wear as an undershirt.
> Although, I have graduated from the v-neck to a crew
> neck, that is still imbedded in my brain.

Navy was using crews by the time I went through.

I remember that, probably largely because I washed out (10 weeks
including 4 in the hospital -- I would have completed boot-camp except
that our training didn't officially start for 2 weeks after we arrived
on base), shaving was a really sensitive thing for me for a long time.
I would shave religiously with a blade and I would be really
meticulous about it (more so than is healthy) and I would always think
about boot camp while I did. Took me a long time to get past that... I
use a Norelco now and only shave every few days. I still maintain the
undershirts because I find that I'm physically more comfortable
("cleaner" - not sure if that's actual or perception), even in warmer
weather.


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Flash Form unclickable

2005-05-13 Thread Fabio Terracini
Hello,

Had anyone faced a flash forms problem that sometimes you can "use it"?

I means, some controls, often the bottom ones (some times one of them, 
sometimes two, three, etc), became "unclickable"?

We're running some test with different plug-in versions and browsers, 
but this is really hard to reproduce. We reproduced iw a few times, but 
not enough to understadn what's going on. And our client is facing this 
problem ALL the time.

Sometime chaning some of the flash form code (forcing it to recompile) 
solves the problem. But it the user access that form again he will face 
the problem.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

-- 
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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Undershirts!

I thought those died out with my grandparents generation (I'm 31)

.of course they have made a comeback as the "wife beater" (not my 
termdon't shoot the messenger)

It's all shorts, tees, and flip flops (shave every 2-3 days) unless it's 
client meeting day...then it's biz casual or a suit depending on the size of 
the client.  Once a client knows meback to the shorts etc. ;-)

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RE: How can I avoid Evaluate() function?

2005-05-13 Thread Mark A Kruger
H not "scopes" but certain server created var structures still cause
problems I believe. seems like the return variable from a CFFILE operation
is still not addressable this way - at least that's what I recall without
testing.

file.serverfile  // works
file['serverfile']  // doesn't seem to work if my memory serves

Another one seems to be the retun vars from submitting a grid ... (a bit
hairy)

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-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 3:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How can I avoid Evaluate() function?


> -Original Message-
> From: Al Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 4:03 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: How can I avoid Evaluate() function?
>
> Which begs the question: Are there any variable scopes left that
> cannot be referenced using array notation?

Nope.

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Re: Performance questions ...

2005-05-13 Thread Fabio Terracini
Not anymore. Since MX version, cfscript and tag-based codes have the 
same performance.

You should make a Google search on "coldfusion performance". There are 
several articles and blog posts on this subject and server performance. 
You can also look at weblogs.macromedia.com.

You might wanna look the ColdFusion MX Coding Guidelines  that 
Macromedia uses internally. This document is base for the one that comes 
with ColdFusion 7. It's not complete, but covers most basic coding 
performance issues.

Also, let's say, using Compare() besides EQ ou NEQ *will not* drop you 
time from 3000ms to 1000ms. Such improvements relays more on 
archicteture and problem-solving approach than minimal coding improvements.

--

Fabio Terracini



Charles Heizer wrote:

>Thanks,
>The concurrent traffic is not going to be more than 10 to 20 users at a
>time.
>
>Are there any good docs that cover writing more efficient code? I also
>remember somebody saying that cfscript doing a function if faster than using
>a cffunction tag. Is this true?
>
>Thanks,
>- Charles
>
>
>On 5/13/05 12:05 PM, "Sean Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>

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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Yes, this is an off topic post that should be on CF-Community. Yes, I'll 
redirect it. Yes, this is a call for me to rewrite the whole system to alter an 
entire thread from one list to another rather than just redirect posts. 
Thank you for forcing me to do the work that needs to be done. 
Now can this be moved to CF-Community now? 
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Re: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Bryan Stevenson
LOL...TGIF eh Mike ;-)

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RE: Performance questions ...

2005-05-13 Thread Mark A Kruger
Are these the same coding standards that result in the current performance
of their site?


 you wrote --
You might wanna look the ColdFusion MX Coding Guidelines  that
Macromedia uses internally. This document is base for the one that comes
with ColdFusion 7. It's not complete, but covers most basic coding
performance issues.

---

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Re: How can I avoid Evaluate() function?

2005-05-13 Thread Phill B
Thanks Barney. 

On 5/13/05, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #application[cookie.country & "Rate"]#
> 
> cheers,
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Re: CFCompile

2005-05-13 Thread Barney Boisvert
Fusebox is the only one that allows you to add a .cfm to the config
file's name.  And if you ask me, you shouldn't make use of that
ability.  Much better to either put the XML files outside the web
root, or use the webserver to prevent access to them.

cheers,
barneyb

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> 
> Thanks for the response. Wouldn't it be nice if we can give some kind
> of argument to cfcompile to omit certain .cfm files because I guess
> the same will apply to majority of frameworks, like Mach-II, Tartan,
> Model-Glue etc.
> 
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Re: Flash Form unclickable

2005-05-13 Thread John Dowdell
Fabio Terracini wrote:
> Had anyone faced a flash forms problem that sometimes you can "use it"?
 > I means, some controls, often the bottom ones (some times one of them,
 > sometimes two, three, etc), became "unclickable"?
> ... Any suggestions?

One good tack with an unusual problem is the "some or all?" series of 
tests... here are some ways to narrow in on the true cause:

--  some or all SWFs? try some known-to-be-good example sites in the 
balking browser (helps detect things like a flawed SWF, etc)

--  some or all HTMLs? try the same SWF in the simplest HTML in those 
browsers (helps detect things like DIV problems, etc)

--  some or all browsers? see if the problem occurs particularly in 
certain browser brands/platforms/versions, and never in others (helps 
detect things like LiveConnect reliance or caching, etc)

--  some or all machines? see if a suspect browser acts the same on 
another machine

The symptom isn't really clear to me -- I know the general area of where 
a visitor might experience problems, but I wouldn't be able to reliably 
tell someone else how they can make th eproblem happen too.

jd





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Re: Flash Form unclickable

2005-05-13 Thread Fabio Terracini
- Actually, it seems only one SWF, that finish with the following code:




   
  







  
   



There is an additional useless cfformgroup, the vertical one (marked 
up). I think the programmer who developed the form didn't saw it, so I 
removed it right now. We'll make more test with this one. Unfortunely 
our developer already left client's office.

- In all HTMLs. Have it nothing else or the rest of application.
- We're unable to reproduce it in our envoirment, and in the client 
office, where we can easily reproduce this problem (one of our guys 
stayed there all day), they have only Internet Explorer version 6 SP2 in 
both Windows 2000 and XP.
- All machines. We tested in various users workstations (all with IE).

Also, as you said, the biggest problem of this problem, is that we can't 
easily reproduce this error. Only occurs in client's office (which is in 
another city!)

Closing the browser and opening the page again also do not solve the 
problem.

Thanks,
Fabio Terracini

John Dowdell wrote:

>One good tack with an unusual problem is the "some or all?" series of 
>tests... here are some ways to narrow in on the true cause:
>
>--  some or all SWFs? try some known-to-be-good example sites in the 
>balking browser (helps detect things like a flawed SWF, etc)
>
>--  some or all HTMLs? try the same SWF in the simplest HTML in those 
>browsers (helps detect things like DIV problems, etc)
>
>--  some or all browsers? see if the problem occurs particularly in 
>certain browser brands/platforms/versions, and never in others (helps 
>detect things like LiveConnect reliance or caching, etc)
>
>--  some or all machines? see if a suspect browser acts the same on 
>another machine
>
>The symptom isn't really clear to me -- I know the general area of where 
>a visitor might experience problems, but I wouldn't be able to reliably 
>tell someone else how they can make th eproblem happen too.
>
>jd
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>

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RE: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 3:22 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Man, this is so OT...
>>
>> Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me.
>>
>> What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear?

> Anything that Caveman Clothing produces.

> I've only worn their shirts for about 8 years now and I
> see no reason to stop.  ;^)

Especially since if he stopped that would mean going back to everyone
complaining about his hairy chest. :)



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RE: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> Black makes the wearer look thinner, so I would say black,
> unless it was
> 100 degrees outside, then I would say white.

> Black also hides the tomato stains from the local Italian
> eatery.

They using stealth tomatoes?

heh ... Seems like tomato stains (at least for a few hours) are shiny
when they're on a black shirt -- or at least that's what I'm always
paranoid about...

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Re: Flash Form unclickable

2005-05-13 Thread dave
different plugin versions? doesn't it only compile to flash 7?
 you may want to turn the cfform debugging on and take a look

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:46 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Flash Form unclickable 

- Actually, it seems only one SWF, that finish with the following code:

type="horizontal">

name="btn_delete" value="Deletar" tooltip="Você remove do sistema este 
usuário." style="textRollOverColor: ##FF;">

value="Salvar" tabindex="19" tooltip="Você salva no sistema os dados 
desse usuário.">

There is an additional useless cfformgroup, the vertical one (marked 
up). I think the programmer who developed the form didn't saw it, so I 
removed it right now. We'll make more test with this one. Unfortunely 
our developer already left client's office.

- In all HTMLs. Have it nothing else or the rest of application.
- We're unable to reproduce it in our envoirment, and in the client 
office, where we can easily reproduce this problem (one of our guys 
stayed there all day), they have only Internet Explorer version 6 SP2 in 
both Windows 2000 and XP.
- All machines. We tested in various users workstations (all with IE).

Also, as you said, the biggest problem of this problem, is that we can't 
easily reproduce this error. Only occurs in client's office (which is in 
another city!)

Closing the browser and opening the page again also do not solve the 
problem.

Thanks,
Fabio Terracini

John Dowdell wrote:

>One good tack with an unusual problem is the "some or all?" series of 
>tests... here are some ways to narrow in on the true cause:
>
>-- some or all SWFs? try some known-to-be-good example sites in the 
>balking browser (helps detect things like a flawed SWF, etc)
>
>-- some or all HTMLs? try the same SWF in the simplest HTML in those 
>browsers (helps detect things like DIV problems, etc)
>
>-- some or all browsers? see if the problem occurs particularly in 
>certain browser brands/platforms/versions, and never in others (helps 
>detect things like LiveConnect reliance or caching, etc)
>
>-- some or all machines? see if a suspect browser acts the same on 
>another machine
>
>The symptom isn't really clear to me -- I know the general area of where 
>a visitor might experience problems, but I wouldn't be able to reliably 
>tell someone else how they can make th eproblem happen too.
>
>jd
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>



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Re: Flash Form unclickable

2005-05-13 Thread Fabio Terracini
Yes, diferent minor versions of Flash 7, like 7.0.14, 7.0.19, and so on.

And debug don't help/show anything. The error isn't at the flash form 
compile. No log errors messages at all. When the problem occurs the 
flash form is already compiled.

Thanks!

Fabio Terracini



dave wrote:

>different plugin versions? doesn't it only compile to flash 7?
> you may want to turn the cfform debugging on and take a look
>
>~Dave the disruptor~ 
>
>
>  
>
>  
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Re: Flash Form unclickable

2005-05-13 Thread dave
can you paste the entire form code an i will take a look.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 6:00 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Flash Form unclickable 

Yes, diferent minor versions of Flash 7, like 7.0.14, 7.0.19, and so on.

And debug don't help/show anything. The error isn't at the flash form 
compile. No log errors messages at all. When the problem occurs the 
flash form is already compiled.

Thanks!

Fabio Terracini

dave wrote:

>different plugin versions? doesn't it only compile to flash 7?
> you may want to turn the cfform debugging on and take a look
>
>~Dave the disruptor~ 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>



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RE: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread Connie DeCinko
1.  Black  (hides stains and coffee spills better)
Close second:  Grey
Last: White  (shows everything and creates a road map of past eating
adventures)
 

-Original Message-
From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 12:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Man, this is so OT...

Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me. 

What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear? 

And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer? 

Thanks!

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Q & D Flash remoting tutorial

2005-05-13 Thread Mark Holm
Hi,
 I'm totall newbie on flash remoting and haven't really touched flash snce days 
of Flash 4.
 Need to bone up quick on flash remoting and flash.. and suggestions on a 
really good resource(s) on flash remoting
 TIA

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RE: Man, this is so OT...

2005-05-13 Thread dave
Do a color harmonized tye-dyed in web friendly pastels ;)

 Ok I know what the shirt is gunna be, its gunna be a pic of wilber screaming 
out "THE GAMEEE"
 Then on the back will be a pic of billy comin up from the rear waving a copy 
of .net with a coupon on it for a free copy of ms anti-spy.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Connie DeCinko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 6:13 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Man, this is so OT... 

1. Black (hides stains and coffee spills better)
Close second: Grey
Last: White (shows everything and creates a road map of past eating
adventures)

-Original Message-
From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 12:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Man, this is so OT...

Don't attack me for posting this question. Just trust me. 

What color teeshirts do most of you like to wear? 

And if you had a choice of black or white, which would you prefer? 

Thanks!

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re: Q & D Flash remoting tutorial

2005-05-13 Thread dave
communitymx.com has quite a few good things, I sent you an off-line, lemme know 
if you don't get it.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: "Mark Holm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 6:20 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Q & D Flash remoting tutorial 

Hi,
 I'm totall newbie on flash remoting and haven't really touched flash snce days 
of Flash 4.
 Need to bone up quick on flash remoting and flash.. and suggestions on a 
really good resource(s) on flash remoting
 TIA

 Mark Holm

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Re: Q & D Flash remoting tutorial

2005-05-13 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Flash Remoting: The Definitive Guide
by Tom Muck

-Adam

On 5/13/05, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> communitymx.com has quite a few good things, I sent you an off-line, lemme 
> know if you don't get it.
> 
> ~Dave the disruptor~
> 
> 
> From: "Mark Holm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 6:20 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: Q & D Flash remoting tutorial
> 
> Hi,
> I'm totall newbie on flash remoting and haven't really touched flash snce 
> days of Flash 4.
> Need to bone up quick on flash remoting and flash.. and suggestions on a 
> really good resource(s) on flash remoting
> TIA
> 
> Mark Holm
> 
> Get Firefox!
> Imagination is the key to my lyrics. The rest is painted with a little 
> science fiction. -Jimi Hendrix
> 
> 
> 
> 

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re: Flash Form unclickable

2005-05-13 Thread dave
I think you have several problems in there. For 1 you have end tags with no 
start tags.
 The variable should be called differently and if the variable doesn't exist it 
throws an error.

 Tell me what the for is supposed to do and I will see if we cant rewrite it.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 4:30 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Flash Form unclickable 

Hello,

Had anyone faced a flash forms problem that sometimes you can "use it"?

I means, some controls, often the bottom ones (some times one of them, 
sometimes two, three, etc), became "unclickable"?

We're running some test with different plug-in versions and browsers, 
but this is really hard to reproduce. We reproduced iw a few times, but 
not enough to understadn what's going on. And our client is facing this 
problem ALL the time.

Sometime chaning some of the flash form code (forcing it to recompile) 
solves the problem. But it the user access that form again he will face 
the problem.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

-- 
Fabio Terracini



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Re: Flash Form unclickable

2005-05-13 Thread dave
this should work for you.

 
 
 
 
    
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: Fabio Terracini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 6:00 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Flash Form unclickable 

Yes, diferent minor versions of Flash 7, like 7.0.14, 7.0.19, and so on.

And debug don't help/show anything. The error isn't at the flash form 
compile. No log errors messages at all. When the problem occurs the 
flash form is already compiled.

Thanks!

Fabio Terracini

dave wrote:

>different plugin versions? doesn't it only compile to flash 7?
> you may want to turn the cfform debugging on and take a look
>
>~Dave the disruptor~ 
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Re: Q & D Flash remoting tutorial

2005-05-13 Thread dave
Yes, good book but a lot has changed since then.

 flash mx 2004 pro for server geeks is really a good book as well.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: Adrocknaphobia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 6:38 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Q & D Flash remoting tutorial 

Flash Remoting: The Definitive Guide
by Tom Muck

-Adam

On 5/13/05, dave  wrote:
> communitymx.com has quite a few good things, I sent you an off-line, lemme 
> know if you don't get it.
> 
> ~Dave the disruptor~
> 
> 
> From: "Mark Holm" 
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 6:20 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: Q & D Flash remoting tutorial
> 
> Hi,
> I'm totall newbie on flash remoting and haven't really touched flash snce 
> days of Flash 4.
> Need to bone up quick on flash remoting and flash.. and suggestions on a 
> really good resource(s) on flash remoting
> TIA
> 
> Mark Holm
> 
> Get Firefox!
> Imagination is the key to my lyrics. The rest is painted with a little 
> science fiction. -Jimi Hendrix
> 
> 
> 
> 



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RE: Performance questions ...

2005-05-13 Thread Dave Watts
> Are there any good docs that cover writing more efficient code?

Sure. There are all sorts of things out there on this topic. However, we
would have to first clarify what we mean by "efficient". Do we mean faster?
Easier to write? Easier to maintain? If I'm using a high-level language like
CFML, I'm probably most interested in the latter.

> I also remember somebody saying that cfscript doing a function if 
> faster than using a cffunction tag. Is this true?

Who knows? More importantly, who cares?

The CFFUNCTION tag has several advantages over CF 5 function syntax. It can
enforce input and output data types. It allows you the full range of CFML
functionality. If you found it was ten milliseconds slower, consistently,
would those things be worth sacrificing for a little bump in speed?

In any case, it's unlikely that anyone has done comprehensive testing in any
meaningful way on this topic. Most people who do this sort of thing, do it
by looping over something a lot of times. Unfortunately, that is not a
useful test to determine real-world performance differences - to do that,
you need to run code concurrently, not serially, and load-testing is a lot
more difficult and expensive than running one page with a big loop in it.

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