Re: Sending Faxes through Cold Fusion

[Nathan Drury]

Hi Tom

Could you go into more detail about how you would use HylaFax with CF to send 
and receive faxes?

Thanks

Nathan Drury

>On Thursday 10 November 2005 02:33, Stephen Cassady wrote:
>> Does anybody have some suggestions or links that would assist in sending a
>> fax from CF?
>
>Grab a cheap-o modem and a copy of (free) HylaFax.
>
>-- 
>
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>Advanced ColdFusion Programmer

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Re: CF / Java error ... don't understand

[Barney Boisvert]

Try #form["userfile[0]"]# on line 5 instead of what you've got.  That
should take care of the problem.

Basically, CF says form.userfile[0], is the zeroth element of an array
called 'form.userfile'.  But 'form.userfile' doesn't exist, which is
what's causing the error.  You can use struct notation (rather than
dot notation) to reference the variable, and have CF consider
'special' characters to be part of the name.  Its the same reason the
first line below will error, but the second won't, even though they're
doing the "same" thing:




cheers,
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On 11/16/05, Mik Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm having a little trouble making sense of this problem and hope
> someone can give me some insight.
>
> I'm using this upload tool called RAD Upload. It's a java app and is
> pretty slick. http://radinks.com/upload/
>
> The java app that runs as an applet calls an action page when the
> upload is done. I've got a very simple script in there that I hope to
> loop through the files uploaded.
>
> However, I'm having trouble even getting CF to recognize the files
> themselves. At the moment I'm doing a CFDUMP just to see what the app
> provides the action page, and for the life of me ... Is it possible
> that I am accessing the variables incorrectly since it's a java
> application handing me the data?
>
> Here's the CF code, just for debugging purposes to make sure I can
> access what was uploaded:
>
>  
>  form.USERFILE_PARENT = #form.USERFILE_PARENT#
>  form.USERFILE[0] = #form.USERFILE[0]#
>
> and here's the output:
>
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CF / Java error ... don't understand

[Mik Muller]

I'm having a little trouble making sense of this problem and hope 
someone can give me some insight.

I'm using this upload tool called RAD Upload. It's a java app and is 
pretty slick. http://radinks.com/upload/

The java app that runs as an applet calls an action page when the 
upload is done. I've got a very simple script in there that I hope to 
loop through the files uploaded.

However, I'm having trouble even getting CF to recognize the files 
themselves. At the moment I'm doing a CFDUMP just to see what the app 
provides the action page, and for the life of me ... Is it possible 
that I am accessing the variables incorrectly since it's a java 
application handing me the data?

Here's the CF code, just for debugging purposes to make sure I can 
access what was uploaded:

 
 form.USERFILE_PARENT = #form.USERFILE_PARENT#
 form.USERFILE[0] = #form.USERFILE[0]#

and here's the output:

struct

FIELDNAMES
USERFILE_PARENT,USERFILE[0],USERFILE[1]

USERFILE[0]
C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\servers\coldfusion\SERVER-INF\temp\wwwroot-tmp\neotmp5651.tmp

USERFILE[1]
C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\servers\coldfusion\SERVER-INF\temp\wwwroot-tmp\neotmp5652.tmp

USERFILE_PARENT
C:/Documents and Settings/Michael/Desktop


form.USERFILE_PARENT = C:/Documents and Settings/Michael/Desktop
form.USERFILE[0] =


Error Occurred While Processing Request
Element USERFILE is undefined in a Java object of type class 
[Ljava.lang.String; referenced as


The error occurred in D:\Inetpub\DevCode\rad\test2.cfm: line 5
3 : 4 :form.USERFILE_PARENT = 
#form.USERFILE_PARENT#5 : form.USERFILE[0] = 
#form.USERFILE[0]#6 : 7 : 

Please try the following:
Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the 
correct syntax.
Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem.

Browser

Remote Address
141.154.156.18
Referrer

Date/Time
16-Nov-05 09:29 PM
Stack Trace
at cftest22ecfm1852452691.runPage(D:\Inetpub\DevCode\rad\test2.cfm:5) > >
coldfusion.runtime.UndefinedElementException:
Element USERFILE is undefined in a Java object of type class 
[Ljava.lang.String; referenced as
at 
coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.resolveCanonicalName(CfJspPage.java:1054)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._resolve(CfJspPage.java:1031)
at cftest22ecfm1852452691.runPage(D:\Inetpub\DevCode\rad\test2.cfm:5)
at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:152)
at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:343)
at coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:65)
at 
coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java:210)
at 
coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke(RequestMonitorFilter.java:51)
at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:86)
at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:50)
at 
coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28)
 

at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38)
at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38)
at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22)
at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:105)
at 
coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service(BootstrapServlet.java:78)
at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91)
at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42)
at 
jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:257)
at 
jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:527)
at 
jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable(JRunProxyService.java:204)
at 
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:349)
 

at 
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:457) 

at 
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:295) 

at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)



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RE: cfform popup

[dave]

thanks again for your time and efforts Bobby.
However I still get the error, Laura at asfusion noted that get Url Needs to be 
getURL but that still doesnt work.

http://65.36.226.10/testimonials/pro/search.cfm

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From: "Bobby Hartsfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:51 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: cfform popup 

Well, I finally got access to a server that didn't tell me that 'onchange'
was a bad attribute of cfgrid but it will only display a Java applet grid...
yay... 

But I did have to clean up the syntax to get that far. This worked

Onchange="getUrl(""javascript:NewWindow=window.open('profile.cfm','Title','w
idth=400,height=400,left=0,top=0,toolbar=No,location=No,scrollbars=No,status
=No,resizable=No,fullscreen=No');"")"

notice its just double-double quotes to escape them inside the onchange=""

That should get you past the syntax error I see when I hit that url now.

I really didn't feel like building an elaborate query for it so I just made
a quick small one ... querynew("staff,staffed") and looped some junk inot
it 10 times.

When you get past the syntax errors, let me know if something else catches
you. Maybe Ill have a server straightened out by then (hell... maybe ill set
up 7 on my laptop)

...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com

-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfform popup

I'll have to try it out later tonight when I have access to a different
server with cfgrid and can actually see it working (or not working). Until
then... try a simpler window to track down any syntax errors

getUrl("javascript:NewWindow=window.open('somepage.cfm','Title','width=400,h
eight=400,left=0,top=0,toolbar=No,location=No,scrollbars=No,status=No,resiza
ble=No,fullscreen=No');")

You might also try jsstringformatting everything in the geturl() and see
what that yields.

:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfform popup

thanks for taking the time Bobby
here is url http://65.36.226.10/testimonials/pro/search2.cfm
no matter what I try on any of these the error is here
window.open(<-- that bracket is always the cause

I did find an open brack and a misspelling but i cant get the damn thing!

current code

 query="prostaff" 
 rowheaders="no" 
 height="200"
  --->
onchange="getUrl("javascript:NewWindow=window.open('profile.cfm?ProStaffID='
+
'showprostaff.dataProvider[showprostaff.selectedIndex]['ProStaffID']','Title
','width=400,height=400,left=0,top=0,toolbar=No,location=No,scrollbars=No,st
atus=No,resizable=No,fullscreen=No');")">

this is what its supposed to be
http://65.36.226.10/testimonials/pro/search.cfm
but when u select a grid row I want a popup so the user doesnt have to go
back and do the whole thing over everytime.

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From: "Bobby Hartsfield" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:02 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: cfform popup 

At a glance continued

['ProStaffID']

Try escaping those single quotes if that's where line 93 col 68 is

..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 6:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfform popup

Thanks Bobby but that throws an error.
 Invalid token ''' found on line 93 at column 68. 

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From: "Bobby Hartsfield" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:51 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: cfform popup 

Try something like...

getUrl("javascript:NewWindow=window.open('profile.cfm?ProStaffID=' +
showprofstaff.dataProvider[showprostaff.selectedIndex]['ProStaffID']','Title
','width=400,height=400,left=0,top=0,
toolbar=No,location=No,scrollbars=No,status=No,resizable=No,fullscreen=No');
")

:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 1:19 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfform popup

anyone know how to make this able to pop up a sizes pop up window out of a
cfgrid in a flash form?

in the cfgrid code:

onchange="getUrl('profile.cfm?ProStaffID=' +
showprostaff.dataProvider[showprostaff.selectedIndex]['ProStaffID']);"

basically want it to pop up a sized pop up window

~Dave the disruptor~
good s

Re: Any way to use CF or cgi to obtain geographic origination of site visitor?

[Paul Hastings]

Rick Faircloth wrote:
> Like country, etc.?

that's easy: http://www.sustainablegis.com/projects/geoLocator/  and 
don't forget to grab seth duffey's worldmap flash widget to symbolize 
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RE: php translation

[Dawson, Michael]

The only thing I can guess is that:

count($file['name'])

Means that you have multiple form fields with the same field name.  When
a form is submitted, all same-name form fields are sent as a single
comma-separated value.

Perhaps the count() is counting the number of elements in a
comma-separated list.  In CF comma-separated values are called "lists".

Or, the other alternative is the PHP automatically "converts" the
same-name form fields into an array or a collection that can be counted
with the count() function.

The CF equivalent would be listLen(form.name).

Of course, I could be totally wrong.  ;^)

M!ke

-Original Message-
From: Mik Muller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: php translation

Hi,

Looking for a translation from PHP to CF regarding multiple-file upload
handler. Sorry to appear so thick.


This one I can pretty much figure out...

 $file = $_FILES['userfile'];

 


This is a little mystifying.

 $k = count($file['name']);

As far as I know structures can't have multiple instances of the same 
key, and form variables don't have sub structures.

Any help?

Mik

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php translation

[Mik Muller]

Hi,

Looking for a translation from PHP to CF regarding multiple-file 
upload handler. Sorry to appear so thick.


This one I can pretty much figure out...

 $file = $_FILES['userfile'];

 


This is a little mystifying.

 $k = count($file['name']);

As far as I know structures can't have multiple instances of the same 
key, and form variables don't have sub structures.

Any help?

Mik



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RE: Cf forum

[Mike | NZSolutions Ltd]

Well use that one then !!

(I am pretty grumpy today - no coffee in office !!)



-Original Message-
From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2005 2:57 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cf forum


Why? SMF is free and it is full of a ton of bells and whistles.

On 11/16/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> I sort of think if the app came with all the bells and whistles - then

> ray would be looking to charge for such an app?
>
> mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2005 12:23 p.m.
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Cf forum
>
>
> Ok I'll have another look at it then.
> Perhaps it just needs tarting up a bit :-)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 November 2005 23:14
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Cf forum
>
> Um... you know some of these are already in?
>
>
> > Categories and sub categories (some people refer to them as forums 
> > and sub
> > forums)
>
> Galleon lets you organize by conference, forum, and thead.
>
> > Ability to subscribe to a topic and receive notifications.
>
> In there.
>
> > Topics show who started them, who last posted and when.
>
> I currently show last post. I can see how showing the author may be 
> nice.
>
> > New post tracker so u can see whets new since your last visit.
>
> That would be nice.
>
> > Sticky topics.
>
> Done.
>
> > Announcements
>
> You can do that with readonly posts.
>
> > Locked categories/topics
>
> See above.
>
> > Password protected categories/topics
>
> What - and block content?? ;) I can see that.
>
> > Groups, so specific groups can be given access to specific 
> > categories
>
> Looks ot be same as above.
>
> > Moderation abilities
>
> It has that already. You can assign users who have the rights to clean

> up posts. Also, you can get an email for every single post if you 
> chose.
>
> -Raymond
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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Re: Cf forum

[Aaron Rouse]

Why? SMF is free and it is full of a ton of bells and whistles.

On 11/16/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> I sort of think if the app came with all the bells and whistles - then
> ray would be looking to charge for such an app?
>
> mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2005 12:23 p.m.
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Cf forum
>
>
> Ok I'll have another look at it then.
> Perhaps it just needs tarting up a bit :-)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 November 2005 23:14
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Cf forum
>
> Um... you know some of these are already in?
>
>
> > Categories and sub categories (some people refer to them as forums and
> > sub
> > forums)
>
> Galleon lets you organize by conference, forum, and thead.
>
> > Ability to subscribe to a topic and receive notifications.
>
> In there.
>
> > Topics show who started them, who last posted and when.
>
> I currently show last post. I can see how showing the author may be
> nice.
>
> > New post tracker so u can see whets new since your last visit.
>
> That would be nice.
>
> > Sticky topics.
>
> Done.
>
> > Announcements
>
> You can do that with readonly posts.
>
> > Locked categories/topics
>
> See above.
>
> > Password protected categories/topics
>
> What - and block content?? ;) I can see that.
>
> > Groups, so specific groups can be given access to specific categories
>
> Looks ot be same as above.
>
> > Moderation abilities
>
> It has that already. You can assign users who have the rights to clean
> up posts. Also, you can get an email for every single post if you chose.
>
> -Raymond
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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A ColdFusion "Templating Language"

[Jon Block]

Hello everyone,

I've just posted a free CFML templating engine and I was wondering if I
could get some feedback on. I'm using this template engine for a current
project and I thought that it would probably be useful to other
developers... so please have a look and your feedback would be
appreciated!!!

Project Home Page
http://www.jonathanblock.com/Members/admin/blockml

Blurb:
BlockML is an abstract templating language for ColdFusion web
applications. In the model-view-controller software design pattern,
BlockML can be thought of as the "view engine" which can integrate with
popular frameworks like Mach-II, Fusebox and Model-Glue, but is also
easy to implement into custom sites.

Thank you,
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RE: cfform popup

[dave]

well it works on opera and safari 

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From: "dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:29 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: cfform popup 

its close
One problem was i was commenting out the one line when testing and I guess it 
was viewing it as a space, removed that and it ok'd the error. Now as u can see 
on http://65.36.226.10/testimonials/pro/search.cfm it pops the window up but 
messed up the parent page, there is an error on the pop up but i havent 
formatted it or passed on any variables yet.

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RE: cfform popup

[dave]

its close
One problem was i was commenting out the one line when testing and I guess it 
was viewing it as a space, removed that and it ok'd the error. Now as u can see 
on http://65.36.226.10/testimonials/pro/search.cfm it pops the window up but 
messed up the parent page, there is an error on the pop up but i havent 
formatted it or passed on any variables yet.

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Re: Any way to use CF or cgi to obtain geographic origination of site visitor?

[Ryan Guill]

Usually this is done by getting the users ip address and then using a
geocoder to get the other information, such as through a webservice.

On 11/16/05, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Like country, etc.?
>
> Rick
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Re: FCKEditor and uploading images

[Mike Kear]

I think the 2.1.1 version is better in a lot of ways - it's more CF aware
for a start.
 But i havent been able to get the image browser or uploading to work. I've
edited the files as per the documentation, and i can get the browser dialog
box to open, but when I click "browse", it opens what is obviously supposed
to be a directory listing of images, but then an error box pops up saying:
 XML request error. Internal server error (500).
 What does that mean? Anyone seen that before with this editor?
 Cheers
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Windsor, NSW, Australia
Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
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ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET  hosting from AUD$15/month

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>
> I got 2.1.1 to work, but only if the /fckeditor/ folder was off the
> root folder. Once I tried to move the editor in deeper it all went to
> pot.
>
> I had the older connector working just fine. But the new 2.1.1 CF
> connector -- which is probably better code, assuming 'better' includes
> the term 'undocumented' -- kept me at bay for a couple hours with no
> resolution.
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Any way to use CF or cgi to obtain geographic origination of site visitor?

[Rick Faircloth]

Like country, etc.?

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RE: cfform popup

[Bobby Hartsfield]

Well, I finally got access to a server that didn’t tell me that 'onchange'
was a bad attribute of cfgrid but it will only display a Java applet grid...
yay... 

But I did have to clean up the syntax to get that far. This worked

Onchange="getUrl(""javascript:NewWindow=window.open('profile.cfm','Title','w
idth=400,height=400,left=0,top=0,toolbar=No,location=No,scrollbars=No,status
=No,resizable=No,fullscreen=No');"")"

notice its just double-double quotes to escape them inside the onchange=""

That should get you past the syntax error I see when I hit that url now.

I really didn’t feel like building an elaborate query for it so I just made
a quick small one ... querynew("staff,staffed")  and looped some junk inot
it 10 times.

When you get past the syntax errors, let me know if something else catches
you. Maybe Ill have a server straightened out by then (hell... maybe ill set
up 7 on my laptop)
 
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http://acoderslife.com

-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfform popup

I'll have to try it out later tonight when I have access to a different
server with cfgrid and can actually see it working (or not working). Until
then... try a simpler window to track down any syntax errors

getUrl("javascript:NewWindow=window.open('somepage.cfm','Title','width=400,h
eight=400,left=0,top=0,toolbar=No,location=No,scrollbars=No,status=No,resiza
ble=No,fullscreen=No');")

You might also try jsstringformatting everything in the geturl() and see
what that yields.

...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfform popup

thanks for taking the time Bobby
here is url http://65.36.226.10/testimonials/pro/search2.cfm
no matter what I try on any of these the error is here
window.open(<--   that bracket is always the cause

I did find an open brack and a misspelling but i cant get the damn thing!

current code

 --->
onchange="getUrl("javascript:NewWindow=window.open('profile.cfm?ProStaffID='
+
'showprostaff.dataProvider[showprostaff.selectedIndex]['ProStaffID']','Title
','width=400,height=400,left=0,top=0,toolbar=No,location=No,scrollbars=No,st
atus=No,resizable=No,fullscreen=No');")">

this is what its supposed to be
http://65.36.226.10/testimonials/pro/search.cfm
but when u select a grid row I want a popup so the user doesnt have to go
back and do the whole thing over everytime.

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From: "Bobby Hartsfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:02 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: cfform popup 

At a glance continued

['ProStaffID']

Try escaping those single quotes if that's where line 93 col 68 is

.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 6:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfform popup

Thanks Bobby but that throws an error.
 Invalid token ''' found on line 93 at column 68. 

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From: "Bobby Hartsfield" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:51 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: cfform popup 

Try something like...

getUrl("javascript:NewWindow=window.open('profile.cfm?ProStaffID=' +
showprofstaff.dataProvider[showprostaff.selectedIndex]['ProStaffID']','Title
','width=400,height=400,left=0,top=0,
toolbar=No,location=No,scrollbars=No,status=No,resizable=No,fullscreen=No');
")

...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 1:19 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfform popup

anyone know how to make this able to pop up a sizes pop up window out of a
cfgrid in a flash form?

in the cfgrid code:

onchange="getUrl('profile.cfm?ProStaffID=' +
showprostaff.dataProvider[showprostaff.selectedIndex]['ProStaffID']);"

basically want it to pop up a sized pop up window

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RE: Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture

[Andy]

 
See In-Line comments

-Original Message-
From: Cutter (CF-Talk) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Looks great. Only two things I might have issue with:

1.  Only writing for CFMX 7 will alienate the many out there who finally
moved to 6.1 (once achieving corporate approval) or who have moved to
BlueDragon. An option within the install to define the server environment
can enable/disable features that might be version specific (like Flash or
XForms or CFDocument).

>Hadn't thought of this.  What do we loose besides these?  Since these
are output related, I don't see any immediate issue with this.

2.   Use of stored procedures will alienate anyone using MySQL prior to 
version 5. Many shops may not upgrade for a year or more to guarantee (in
their minds) stability as well as testing (kinda the same reasoning you may
night want to write exclusively for MX 7...). I would suggest a DAO
architecture that you could then extend for different database platforms
(MSSQL, MySQL, Oracle, etc.) and include the need within the install to
define the db platform being used. A good example of this can be seen by DAO
CFC's written by CFCCreator.

>Another great catch.  What's DAO architecture?

I would also suggest defining some basic coding guidelines. Code
indentation, variable naming conventions, db table and column naming
conventions, documentation specifications (I suggest JavaDoc), etc. This
will keep everyone on the same sheet of music, make code review and revision
easier, and implement some design consistency to make final packaging much
cleaner.

>Why don't you take a shot at laying this out in a separate email.  What
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Re: Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture

[Cutter (CF-Talk)]

Looks great. Only two things I might have issue with:

1.  Only writing for CFMX 7 will alienate the many out there who finally 
moved to 6.1 (once achieving corporate approval) or who have moved to 
BlueDragon. An option within the install to define the server 
environment can enable/disable features that might be version specific 
(like Flash or XForms or CFDocument).

2.   Use of stored procedures will alienate anyone using MySQL prior to 
version 5. Many shops may not upgrade for a year or more to guarantee 
(in their minds) stability as well as testing (kinda the same reasoning 
you may night want to write exclusively for MX 7...). I would suggest a 
DAO architecture that you could then extend for different database 
platforms (MSSQL, MySQL, Oracle, etc.) and include the need within the 
install to define the db platform being used. A good example of this can 
be seen by DAO CFC's written by CFCCreator.

I would also suggest defining some basic coding guidelines. Code 
indentation, variable naming conventions, db table and column naming 
conventions, documentation specifications (I suggest JavaDoc), etc. This 
will keep everyone on the same sheet of music, make code review and 
revision easier, and implement some design consistency to make final 
packaging much cleaner.

My $.02, which is all I can give with the rising moving expenses I am 
about to incur.

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Re: Cf forum

[Raymond Camden]

Tarted up. That is the coolest comment I've ever heard. ;)

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> Perhaps it just needs tarting up a bit :-)
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Re: FCKEditor and uploading images

[Matt Robertson]

I got 2.1.1 to work, but only if the /fckeditor/ folder was off the
root folder.  Once I tried to move the editor in deeper it all went to
pot.

I had the older connector working just fine.  But the new 2.1.1 CF
connector -- which is probably better code, assuming 'better' includes
the term 'undocumented'  -- kept me at bay for a couple hours with no
resolution.

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Re: CF Hosting

[Ali Awan]

I remember your lists from when I first started programming in CF.
They are a great resource, and it's wonderful that you still keep them, it even 
serves as somewhat of a historical archive for CF in a way.

It's great how you provide user reviews and feedback, that way we can know some 
of the "dirt" on the ISP's.

However aren't user reviews/rating being patented by Amazon now ;)

Cheers,
Ali
>BTW, that list is hoster maintained. But if you do find dad links, please
>let me know (off-list) and I'll kill them. Thanks.
>
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Re: Cfeclipse File Upload

[Barney Boisvert]

I have no idea why I thought you wanted FTP.  Forgive me.  A simple
ant script should do the trick.  You need the 'copy' task.  It will
magically only copy stuff that's changed, which is nice.

There's probably not a CTRL-SHFT-U style command for Eclipse,
actually.  Pushing a single file willy-nilly is usually not something
you want to do.  More likely you want to push a version update, even
if it only includes changes to a single file.

DW and HS are both designed a the "little" guy in many ways, while
Eclipse is designed for large scale development.  Nothing better or
worse about one approach or the other, but they definitely result in
different styles of products.

cheers,
barneyb

On 11/16/05, Tim Do <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tried downloading these but seems like its for ftp and my dev server
> isn't set up for ftp.  I have a mapped drive to the dev/prod servers...
> I just need something like the Control-Shift-U for uploading the current
> file in dreamweaver.  There's got to be something like that around
> right??
>

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Re: DB connection question

[John C. Bland II]

Dave, are you a hacker at heart? :-) lol. This is good stuff fella's.

So, with all that is said...what would be a (brief) list of best practices
for securing a database while allowing remote connections?

(hope this isn't considered hijacking a thread)

On 11/16/05, Mark A Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> yeah yeah... you still get what I'm saying - right?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:31 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: DB connection question
>
>
> Just one thing wrong with your 80/20 definition. There is no such thing as
> 100% secure, not matter how much money you spend on it. What people need
> to
> decide is how much security is "good enough" for their data.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:26 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: DB connection question
>
> Regarding ISP's - I suspect that access to DB's is regarded as a necessary
> evil. In order to compete they will have to allow access. The margin is
> decreased by some factor with every support call - so a high level of
> convenience and fewer hurdles bring a higher return. More to the point,
> while your ISP is concerned with keeping servers up - they are not
> responsible for your data. Read your terms of use - it's full of cavaets
> and
> addendums that limit the ISP's responsibility
>
> In fact for many sites this makes perfect sense. Exposure is minimal
> because
> the amount of type of data they store is minmal. If you REALLY feel that
> your data is SO important that it should have the highest level of
> security
> then you better get used to paying for it - and we better not see any more
> posts regarding an "affordable" coldfusion hosts - by which they mean
> below
> costs :) Folks that quibble over savings of less than 200 or 300 dollars a
> year have little room to be griping about security at their ISP (g). Read
> the pre-nup before you say I do.
>
> I always think of security as one of those 80/20 things. If 100% security
> takes $100, then in todays world you can get 80% security for $20 dollars.
> The remaining 20% of the security hill costs the remain 80% of the money.
> That means you can maintain a "reasonable" level of security (reasonable
> for
> many sites - though not all) for "reasonable" cost, but costs go up
> exponentially to tighten security that last little bit.
>
> That's my take. I'll probably change my mind tomorrow after Dave
> straightens
> me out :)
>
> -Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:43 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: DB connection question
>
>
> > Well if all of this true, it /should/ be possible to have a secured DB
> > access system by using all of these:
> > 1. Non-standard access port
>
> That simply requires an attacker to find out what ports are being used,
> which is usually not difficult.
>
> > 2. Non-standard user names
> > 3. Enforced strong passwords that change periodically
>
> Those would both help, certainly, but by themselves would probably not be
> sufficient.
>
> > 4. Secured tunnel access (SSH, SSL, etc.)
>
> That would secure access to the database to a sufficient degree for most
> uses, as long as access can't be gained through brute-force attacks.
>
> > 5. Any other security practices I'm forgetting
>
> One of those "other security practices" is, don't allow direct access to
> your database.
>
> > A few folks in this thread have mentioned 'big name' ISPs that allow
> > remote DB administration, so it must not be considered a big security
> > risk. Either that, or money talks! ;)
>
> I would go with "money talks", actually.
>
> There are a lot of reasons why they allow it, I'm sure. First of all, most
> shared hosting customers are probably not that concerned with security.
> Most
> probably don't have sensitive data. Most would rather be able to connect
> to
> their database server. It's ok to value convenience over security, as long
> as you're aware of the trade-off you're making.
>
> Second, the security concerns of you and your ISP may differ somewhat.
> Your
> ISP is probably more concerned that their servers will be rooted. You may
> be
> more concerned about the integrity of your data. Granting remote access to
> your database may not be a security issue for your ISP, even if it is for
> you - this would depend on how the database server itself is configured.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: FCKEditor and uploading images

[Phill B]

Sounds like you have gotten farther than us. I'm going to have to take
a look at it in greater detail tomorrow and see what I can figure out.

On 11/16/05, Jennifer Gavin-Wear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've got the same problem, unable to upload images.
>
> I've set the fckconfig.js for cfm, but when i try uploading a photo it just
> sites there with "Upload in progress".
>
> Any ideas please?
>
> Jenny
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 November 2005 20:47
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: FCKEditor and uploading images
>
>
> Yeah, I got it to work.
>
> You need to edit fckconfig.js to use the CF connector in both the
> linkbrowser and the imagebrowser areas.
>
> Pete
>
> On 11/16/05, Phill B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyone here get the FCKEditor image uploader working in CF? One of the
> > developers here is having trouble getting it to work and there wasn't
> > much on the web site about it.
> >
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RE: Cfeclipse File Upload

[Tim Do]

I tried downloading these but seems like its for ftp and my dev server
isn't set up for ftp.  I have a mapped drive to the dev/prod servers...
I just need something like the Control-Shift-U for uploading the current
file in dreamweaver.  There's got to be something like that around
right??

-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cfeclipse File Upload

Not in CFEclipse - yet.  But there are eclipse plugins that provide
this.  Here are a couple links:

http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/plugin_details.jsp?id=293
http://www.phpeclipse.de/tiki-index.php?page=FTP+and+WebDAV

cheers,
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>
> I'm giving cfeclipse a shot, so far it seems awesome!  I've been a 
> long time studio/homesite user.  I'm having difficulty in trying to 
> deploy files.  We're a small shop so we don't have builds.  In 
> homesite, I have a deployment tool, that uses VTOM scripts to move 
> files.  Something this simple, set root folder location and it will 
> move files based on folder structure.  I was wondering if there was an

> equivalent plugin or feature within cfeclipse that I'm not seeing.
>
> TIA,
> Tim
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Re: Cfparam question

[Charlie Griefer]

see my previous response :)

basically you really only need to param checkboxes and radio button
groups that don't have a button checked by default.

On 11/16/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This seems to work...
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> However, the radio items (no radio item is initially selected for any
> question) are not passed through to the form.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2005 12:39 p.m.
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Cfparam question
>
>
> I have a very long form - 30 or so questions. Not all of the questions
> are required and not all are submitted through to the processing page.
>
> Can I use a loop to set a default value for each form element with out
> having to use...
>
> 
> 
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: DB connection question

[John C. Bland II]

Absolutely Dave. I wasn't knocking security at all...I take it serious as
well. My knowledge, I guess, is preventing my desire for remote access to be
a lower priority than security.

On 11/16/05, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Crystal Tech allows remote access to db servers and I
> > wouldn't host with anyone who doesn't. I'm not security
> > expert but it is definitely a deal breaker for us. Even
> > our servers allow for remote access to the db's. Maybe
> > we're all wrong but it'll stay that way I guess until
> > someone teaches us otherwise, and Crystal Tech for that
> > matter.
>
> It's up to you to balance security against convenience. In some
> situations,
> remote database access is likely to be acceptable, and in other situations
> it isn't. As security risks go, however, it's right up there at the top of
> the list. That's all I was saying.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: CF Hosting

[Ben Forta]

BTW, that list is hoster maintained. But if you do find dad links, please
let me know (off-list) and I'll kill them. Thanks.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Ali Awan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Hosting

Why on earth would I do that, when I can just ask here? :P Seriously though,
yeah thanks for the tip.  His initial link to CF ISP's though, returns a
broken link.  After that, he has a pretty extensive list of over 600
companies, I don't know how up to date it is.  A couple of the companies
listed returned dead links.  But that's not really too bad, out of the
hundreds he has listed on there.

I've ended up with even more options nowsigh  thanks a lot!

cheers,
Ali

>Why not have a look at www.forta.com for the reviews of hosts.
>We do quite well on here, CFMx Hosting doesn't have a single bad review 
>:-)
> 
>
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>From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 16 November 2005 18:09
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: CF Hosting
>
>For one, you don't have access to the CF Admin, but I didn't expect that.
>Also, they may or may not make mappings for you.  Their support article 
>says no mappings, but in the forums an admin said to just email him if 
>you need a mapping created.  I haven't needed a mapping yet, so I'm not 
>sure.  Also, I have /heard/ that the Windows hosting has outages, but 
>like I said, I use Linux and I haven't had any outages yet.
>
>I haven't found any tags/functions that wouldn't work, but my needs are 
>fairly simple. CFXs seem to work fine.  Your mileage may vary.
>
>Here is a list of CF issues people run into on their servers:
>http://www.xtreme-host.com/faq/index.php?catid=9
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RE: Cfparam question

[Mike | NZSolutions Ltd]

This seems to work...





However, the radio items (no radio item is initially selected for any
question) are not passed through to the form.

-Original Message-
From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2005 12:39 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cfparam question


I have a very long form - 30 or so questions. Not all of the questions
are required and not all are submitted through to the processing page.

Can I use a loop to set a default value for each form element with out
having to use...




Mike





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Re: Cfparam question

[Charlie Griefer]

sure.  assuming the fields are named appropriately...


 


would set form.field1 - form.field30 to empty default values.

but unless they're checkboxes (or radio groups with no buttons
checked), they'll still get passed with empty values.  an empty  will pass an empty string to the action page
for #form.abc#.


On 11/16/05, Mike | NZSolutions Ltd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a very long form - 30 or so questions. Not all of the questions
> are required and not all are submitted through to the processing page.
>
> Can I use a loop to set a default value for each form element with out
> having to use...
>
> 
> 
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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Re: createodbcdatetime change in behaviour?

[Claude Schneegans]

 >>the example i gave is exactly what cfdirectory returns on cf 6.1 - ie 
a datetime object formatted as 06 April 2005

Exact, but a datetime object formatted is not a datetime object anymore: 
it is a string.
Look at the docs for createodbcdatetime(), it takes a datetime object, 
not a string.
If you supply a string, as I said, CF will try to guess how it could 
convert it, not always with success, deoending on the format of the string.

 >> etc and it does work as i would expect

... because you were lucky ;-)

.. cf7.1 cfdirectory returns datelastmodified differently to how 6.1 does 
therefore breaking createodbcdatetime()

Not exactly: breaking your luck ;-/

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Cfparam question

[Mike | NZSolutions Ltd]

I have a very long form - 30 or so questions. Not all of the questions
are required and not all are submitted through to the processing page.

Can I use a loop to set a default value for each form element with out
having to use...




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RE: Cf forum

[Mike | NZSolutions Ltd]

I have to say here...

Ray has provided an opensource forum application for all types of users
to checkout and learn from. It is in its current form a very good forum
that would be suitable for most applications. It is also VERY well coded
so that any additions are very easy to integrate.

I sort of think if the app came with all the bells and whistles - then
ray would be looking to charge for such an app?

mike

-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2005 12:23 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Cf forum


Ok I'll have another look at it then.
Perhaps it just needs tarting up a bit :-) 

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 November 2005 23:14
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cf forum

Um... you know some of these are already in?


> Categories and sub categories (some people refer to them as forums and
> sub
> forums)

Galleon lets you organize by conference, forum, and thead.

> Ability to subscribe to a topic and receive notifications.

In there.

> Topics show who started them, who last posted and when.

I currently show last post. I can see how showing the author may be
nice.

> New post tracker so u can see whets new since your last visit.

That would be nice.

> Sticky topics.

Done.

> Announcements

You can do that with readonly posts.

> Locked categories/topics

See above.

> Password protected categories/topics

What - and block content?? ;) I can see that.

> Groups, so specific groups can be given access to specific categories

Looks ot be same as above.

> Moderation abilities

It has that already. You can assign users who have the rights to clean
up posts. Also, you can get an email for every single post if you chose.

-Raymond





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RE: CF Hosting

[Munson, Jacob]

> Why on earth would I do that, when I can just ask here? :P
> Seriously though, yeah thanks for the tip.  His initial link 
> to CF ISP's though, returns a broken link.  After that, he 
> has a pretty extensive list of over 600 companies, I don't 
> know how up to date it is.  A couple of the companies listed 
> returned dead links.  But that's not really too bad, out of 
> the hundreds he has listed on there.

Something else, and this is not Ben's problem, but anybody can go in
there and review a host.  So Crystal Tech could tell all of their
employees to go in and give a stellar review of their hosting.  But like
I said, this is a problem with ALL review sites.

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RE: CF Reporting / Report Builder Questions

[Mark Fuqua]

I started to play with cfr's a few weeks ago and had to pull back.  I think
I was looking at using queries on the calling page.  All variables on the
calling page are available for the cfr?  My plan was to run the queries on
the calling page prior to the report.  Ran out of time, though I will return
to cfr's sometime in the next few days.  It would be great if you would post
your findings.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: jonese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Reporting / Report Builder Questions


Ok i'm just diving into Report builder and i'm trying to build a
report for the first time.

My question is can i have multiple queries instead of just one massive
query, and if so how do i referance the values in these other queries.

I've found the Report Query tool and have seen the advanced settings
but i'm not sure what's going on here..

TIA
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Re: CF Hosting

[Ali Awan]

Why on earth would I do that, when I can just ask here? :P
Seriously though, yeah thanks for the tip.  His initial link to CF ISP's 
though, returns a broken link.  After that, he has a pretty extensive list of 
over 600 companies, I don't know how up to date it is.  A couple of the 
companies listed returned dead links.  But that's not really too bad, out of 
the hundreds he has listed on there.

I've ended up with even more options nowsigh  thanks a lot!

cheers,
Ali

>Why not have a look at www.forta.com for the reviews of hosts.
>We do quite well on here, CFMx Hosting doesn't have a single bad review :-)
> 
>
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>From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: 16 November 2005 18:09
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: CF Hosting
>
>For one, you don't have access to the CF Admin, but I didn't expect that.
>Also, they may or may not make mappings for you.  Their support article says
>no mappings, but in the forums an admin said to just email him if you need a
>mapping created.  I haven't needed a mapping yet, so I'm not sure.  Also, I
>have /heard/ that the Windows hosting has outages, but like I said, I use
>Linux and I haven't had any outages yet.
>
>I haven't found any tags/functions that wouldn't work, but my needs are
>fairly simple. CFXs seem to work fine.  Your mileage may vary.
>
>Here is a list of CF issues people run into on their servers:
>http://www.xtreme-host.com/faq/index.php?catid=9
>
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RE: Cf forum

[Snake]

Ok I'll have another look at it then.
Perhaps it just needs tarting up a bit :-) 

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 November 2005 23:14
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cf forum

Um... you know some of these are already in?


> Categories and sub categories (some people refer to them as forums and 
> sub
> forums)

Galleon lets you organize by conference, forum, and thead.

> Ability to subscribe to a topic and receive notifications.

In there.

> Topics show who started them, who last posted and when.

I currently show last post. I can see how showing the author may be nice.

> New post tracker so u can see whets new since your last visit.

That would be nice.

> Sticky topics.

Done.

> Announcements

You can do that with readonly posts.

> Locked categories/topics

See above.

> Password protected categories/topics

What - and block content?? ;) I can see that.

> Groups, so specific groups can be given access to specific categories

Looks ot be same as above.

> Moderation abilities

It has that already. You can assign users who have the rights to clean up
posts. Also, you can get an email for every single post if you chose.

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RE: Cf forum

[Tim Laureska]

Yeah... its gr8... struggled a bit with user authentication in a sql
server db environment - I wanted to have a user that was already
authenticated  thru a login also authenticated for Galleon... took a
little doingmaybe ease that process a bit - although I'm not the
most advanced user... probably just missing the easy way to accomplish
that

-Original Message-
From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Cf forum

Rays forum is perfect for my needs (installed in about 10 minutes).

I already know the parts I will be adding to etc.

mike

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2005 6:41 a.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cf forum


Spike, can you tell me what features you would like to see included in
Galleon? While I don't think Galleon has as many features as other
forums, I don't think it is fair to say it is 'very basic'.

(Of course, as the author, I'm probalby being defensive.)

On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ray's is very very basic.
> Try these
>
> http://www.1000ad.net/index.cfm?page=cfbb
>
> http://www.ipostmx.com/
>
> Snake
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 November 2005 01:27
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Cf forum
>
> Actually, I do not know how I missed this but there is an open source 
> forum on ray's site. I will check this out.
>
> mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 2:18 p.m.
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Cf forum
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I am needing to integrate a user forum into a client site. I have a 
> bit of time up my sleeve for this project so thought I might have a go

> at building (or modifying an existing project) rather than using an 
> off the shelf product. To be honest, most apps available I have seen 
> would be too advanced for my clients needs.
>
> Question: could anyone point me in the right direction for tips/tricks

> on how to go about building one of these suckers. I would be willing 
> to look at any open source projects also - obviously I can learn a lot

> from this way.
>
> The forum will go alongside an ecommerce app, and share the sql 
> server.
>
> mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 





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RE: Cf forum

[Mike | NZSolutions Ltd]

Thanks for that stan. Your forum looks great. At this stage I will use
galleon to develop the best solution for my client.

mike

-Original Message-
From: Stan Winchester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:24 a.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cf forum


If you are interested in trying our Aftershock Forum, please check out
http://www.aftershockweb.net/forums/ or you can contact me offline at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or 503-244-3440.

>Hi guys,
>
>I am needing to integrate a user forum into a client site. I have a bit

>of time up my sleeve for this project so thought I might have a go at 
>building (or modifying an existing project) rather than using an off 
>the shelf product. To be honest, most apps available I have seen would 
>be too advanced for my clients needs.
>
>Question: could anyone point me in the right direction for tips/tricks 
>on how to go about building one of these suckers. I would be willing to

>look at any open source projects also - obviously I can learn a lot 
>from this way.
>
>The forum will go alongside an ecommerce app, and share the sql server.
>
>mike



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Re: Cf forum

[Raymond Camden]

Um... you know some of these are already in?


> Categories and sub categories (some people refer to them as forums and sub
> forums)

Galleon lets you organize by conference, forum, and thead.

> Ability to subscribe to a topic and receive notifications.

In there.

> Topics show who started them, who last posted and when.

I currently show last post. I can see how showing the author may be nice.

> New post tracker so u can see whets new since your last visit.

That would be nice.

> Sticky topics.

Done.

> Announcements

You can do that with readonly posts.

> Locked categories/topics

See above.

> Password protected categories/topics

What - and block content?? ;) I can see that.

> Groups, so specific groups can be given access to specific categories

Looks ot be same as above.

> Moderation abilities

It has that already. You can assign users who have the rights to clean
up posts. Also, you can get an email for every single post if you
chose.

-Raymond

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MX7 and IIS 5.0 problem

[Rod Drake]

We are running CF MX7 and IIS 5.0. We had an issue with our server and one of 
the guys uninstalled all CF versions. I went back and installed MX7  and tried 
to hit my sites. I get JRun connector protocol error. I cannot seem to get 
anything to work. From my understanding, if you upgrade from 6.1, it leaves a 
portion of that installation on the box to resolve the connection. If that is 
the case then how do I make the connection work using only jrun.

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RE: CFX_IMAP4 ... or .. ?

[Dawson, Michael]

I'm talking several hundred messages, all Word-generated HTML with
images contained within.  The messages themselves can be pretty large
with all the sloppy Word crap in them.

Honestly, I really haven't tried it on smaller mailboxes/messages yet.
Haven't had the need, actually.

But, this thing is pretty damn powerful.  Paul Vernon is great with his
support, too.

M!ke 

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFX_IMAP4 ... or .. ?

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the feedback ... at what point did you notice it was getting
slow, how many messages?

I'm thinking I can avoid a large imap folder by pulling everything off
at regular intervals and pushing the messages into ms sql, but would be
good to know at what point it's necessary to do so.

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RE: Cf forum

[Mike | NZSolutions Ltd]

Rays forum is perfect for my needs (installed in about 10 minutes).

I already know the parts I will be adding to etc.

mike

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2005 6:41 a.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cf forum


Spike, can you tell me what features you would like to see included in
Galleon? While I don't think Galleon has as many features as other
forums, I don't think it is fair to say it is 'very basic'.

(Of course, as the author, I'm probalby being defensive.)

On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ray's is very very basic.
> Try these
>
> http://www.1000ad.net/index.cfm?page=cfbb
>
> http://www.ipostmx.com/
>
> Snake
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 November 2005 01:27
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Cf forum
>
> Actually, I do not know how I missed this but there is an open source 
> forum on ray's site. I will check this out.
>
> mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 2:18 p.m.
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Cf forum
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I am needing to integrate a user forum into a client site. I have a 
> bit of time up my sleeve for this project so thought I might have a go

> at building (or modifying an existing project) rather than using an 
> off the shelf product. To be honest, most apps available I have seen 
> would be too advanced for my clients needs.
>
> Question: could anyone point me in the right direction for tips/tricks

> on how to go about building one of these suckers. I would be willing 
> to look at any open source projects also - obviously I can learn a lot

> from this way.
>
> The forum will go alongside an ecommerce app, and share the sql 
> server.
>
> mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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RE: CFX_IMAP4 ... or .. ?

[Paul Vernon]

Hi Jennifer,

If you have any specific questions about what the tag can do, mail me off
list and I'll attempt to answer them for you.

Paul 

> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 16 November 2005 22:12
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFX_IMAP4 ... or .. ?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a project coming up where I need to read imap folders 
> to enable on line reading of archived messages from a mail list.
> 
> I've got the mail server / mail list sorted and just need to 
> sort out something to read the imap folder in CF.
> 
> Has anyone had experience of running this:
> 
> http://store.newmediadevelopment.net/cfx_imap4_feature_matrix.cfm
> 
> 
> or know of a better (free is good) way ?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Jenny
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: CFX_IMAP4 ... or .. ?

[Jennifer Gavin-Wear]

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the feedback ... at what point did you notice it was getting
slow, how many messages?

I'm thinking I can avoid a large imap folder by pulling everything off at
regular intervals and pushing the messages into ms sql, but would be good to
know at what point it's necessary to do so.

Thanks, Jenny


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From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 November 2005 22:36
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFX_IMAP4 ... or .. ?


I have been using it.  It's a great product so far.  The only gripe is
that it can be a bit slow on folders that have many messages in them.

The support is great and the cost is very reasonable.

M!ke

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 4:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFX_IMAP4 ... or .. ?

Hi,

I have a project coming up where I need to read imap folders to enable
on line reading of archived messages from a mail list.

I've got the mail server / mail list sorted and just need to sort out
something to read the imap folder in CF.

Has anyone had experience of running this:

http://store.newmediadevelopment.net/cfx_imap4_feature_matrix.cfm


or know of a better (free is good) way ?

Thanks in advance,

Jenny



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re: Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture

[dave]

throw in our first 3 born children and its a go ;)~
haha jk

sounds good to me, just send me my task(s) and then I will post them and have 
the list do them hahahaha

no but for real, sounds good 

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good sites - make money getting rid of ie :)
http://explorerdestroyer.com/
http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ 


From: "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:48 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture 

I am posting this in CF-Talk versus the Shopping Cart forum becuase
 1. Architecture discussion may be interesting to those not interested
in Cart
 2. Those not interested in Cart may wish be post opinion (please!)

Lets move beyond terms OO or not OO and get to a specific architecture.
Let me be the first to expose my ignorance and propose the following for
comment:

* Development will be based off of CFMX 7.0, or whatever the current
version is once we complete the architecture plans. 

* We use CFC's, with "exposed" CFC's representing business, real life,
objects such as Order, Item, User, etc. This implies that we may decide to
build base components such as controllers that "Users" will not be able to
call. Since I don't reallly understand what a controller is, I can't go any
deeper then this. But I thought the term was cool... 

* Objects can be sent either pre-defined structures or XML. Agreement
to formats will be later part of discussion 

* The first person using XML will submit the drafts of both the XML
and the code to convert the XML to non-xml format. We will plan for the
likihood that this will be needed, just don't have to build it now. 

* Objects will return the same format that they are sent 

* Objects and their methods are designed assuming that they are not
persisted 

* Object methods are designed to complete a single business task (OK
this might be obvious, but I've had a few glasses of port...) 

* Objects are designed to enable customization without touching base
code, minimizing impact on upgrading to later versions 

* Objects will NEVER enable output (once debugged, of course!) 

* Objects will be secured via the "Roles" attribute, which implies
that  has been executed prior to an object being called. This
is likely to translate into the need for a User object, which is probably a
good idea anyway. Folks who wish to use alternative security can pre-login
users with all possible roles that their Users may require 

* Objects will NOT test for required variables or variable
formats(date, string, integer, you get the point), except as noted below,
which means that native CFMX errors will be thrown if required formats are
not followed. Code can be extended as noted above if specific
usage/implementation requires more "User Friendly" error messages 

* All database activity will be through stored procedures to
completely decouple the application from the underlying database system. If
you don't like our database design, need to denormalize for perforance, or
need to add attributes, you will be able to do so without complicating
upgrading to later versions. Performance will be improved by enabling even
complex, multi-table adds and updates to be performed with one SQL call 

* All "calls" to the stored procedures will use CFQueryParam. Native
CFMX errors will be thrown. Spoofers be damned 

* All calls to store procedures will include a User Name and Password,
so if User required security at DB level, OOTB (Out Of The Box) solution
will support

Based off of these requirements, each CFC would have the following
design(items in <>, replace with appropriate Object Name or requested
path\name):

Something.cfc extends()

 1. instance = struct new
 2. instance.obj = createObject( ...) for each "Has A"
relationship. Do not duplicate object if it is required in multiple
places(e.g. item in an order)

 Function Init
 arguments config

 1. move arguments.config to structure

 Return This

 Function addXML method access=Public roles="addSomething"
 arguments xmlInput - an XML document in defined format

 Return moveToXML(addObject(moveSomethingFromXML(arguments.xmlInput))

 Function updateXML method access=Public roles="updateSomething"
 arguments xmlInput - an XML document in defined format

 Return
moveSomethingToXML(updateObject(moveSomethingFromXML(arguments.xmlInput))

 Function moveSomthingFromXML method access=Public (to allow for when
Something is the other side of a "Has A" relationship and therefore is an
variable object within another object)
 arguments xmlInput

 XML>

 1. Set local variable Data as a structure
 2. Move standard data elements to Data
 3. If instance.Config not defined and xml\Config is defined
 3.1 Move xmlInput\config to instance.config (allow single call of
object to perform all required tasks. This will be an include so that it
needs to be created only once for all objects)
 4. If Something object extends another thing 
 4.1 instance.data. = xmlmove
Name>ToXml

RE: Cf forum

[Snake]

Off the topic of my head.
Categories and sub categories (some people refer to them as forums and sub
forums)
Ability to subscribe to a topic and receive notifications.
Topics show who started them, who last posted and when.
New post tracker so u can see whets new since your last visit.
Sticky topics.
Announcements
Locked categories/topics
Password protected categories/topics
Groups, so specific groups can be given access to specific categories
Moderation abilities

As I said, CFBB is a good example. It's not overly complicated, but does all
the basic things I think a forum should.
 
--
snake
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From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 November 2005 20:58
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cf forum

Sorry - I see snake - I type spike. ;)

So, not to be pushy though, but can you list specific things you would like
to see added? The only ones that come to mind are:

Avatars (seems a bit silly)
BBML (or whatever it is called, which is just a smiley language, right)

I've tried to focus on the core aspects of a forum. A lot of the stuff I see
other forums as having seems more like fluff than anything else.
(In general.)

On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You do like calling me Spike don't you ray.
>
> I had a look at your site that is using galleon, and there just didn't 
> seem to be much to it. Threads and posts and that is it.
> Fusetalk for example is OTT and personally I think it is way to 
> complicated for most users, is not user friendly and is not very stable
either.
> I really like PHPBB, it does just about everything you need a forum to 
> to, or vBulletin.
> CFBB below is not bad, but it seriously need a frameowrk behind it and 
> some brushing up as it's quite messy, but it's probably the closest I 
> have seen to the superior PHP forums.
>
> --
> Snake
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 November 2005 17:41
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Cf forum
>
> Spike, can you tell me what features you would like to see included in 
> Galleon? While I don't think Galleon has as many features as other 
> forums, I don't think it is fair to say it is 'very basic'.
>
> (Of course, as the author, I'm probalby being defensive.)
>
> On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ray's is very very basic.
> > Try these
> >
> > http://www.1000ad.net/index.cfm?page=cfbb
> >
> > http://www.ipostmx.com/
> >
> > Snake
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 16 November 2005 01:27
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Cf forum
> >
> > Actually, I do not know how I missed this but there is an open 
> > source forum on ray's site. I will check this out.
> >
> > mike
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 2:18 p.m.
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Cf forum
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I am needing to integrate a user forum into a client site. I have a 
> > bit of time up my sleeve for this project so thought I might have a 
> > go at building (or modifying an existing project) rather than using 
> > an off the shelf product. To be honest, most apps available I have 
> > seen would be too advanced for my clients needs.
> >
> > Question: could anyone point me in the right direction for 
> > tips/tricks on how to go about building one of these suckers. I 
> > would be willing to look at any open source projects also - 
> > obviously I can learn a lot from this way.
> >
> > The forum will go alongside an ecommerce app, and share the sql server.
> >
> > mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 



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Re: Cf forum

[Raymond Camden]

Well, that's just good application design. Any 'feature' that has an
on/off switch you be something that persists in your preferences.

On 11/16/05, Mark A Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ooh and there's another thing I hate... I hate having to "turn on" or
> "turn off" features that I have already deemed (in my infinite wisdom) to be
> irrelevant. Software should sense my mood and act accordingly dang it
> (huff)... I'll be in my trailer.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 4:08 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Cf forum
>
>
> That is the nice thing about having settings as a user that let you turn off
> the viewing of things you dislike such as avatars or signatures or attached
> images and so on. I personally can not stand signatures that have big honkin
> images in them so I just turn that off in my settings on every forum I
> visit.
>
> On 11/16/05, Mark A Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Ray - I'm with you. I love galleon and I detest all the avatars and
> > smileys
> > in other forums.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Query Question

[Ryan Guill]

thinking about this more, you could probably do it even easier like so:

SELECT
 eventID,
eventName,
MIN(eventDate)
FROM event a
 INNER JOIN eventDates b ON a.eventID = b.eventID
WHERE eventDate > #now()#
GROUP BY eventID, eventName

that should bring back one record for each id.  The only catch on this
is that if there is no date greater than today for that event it will
not show up.  You would have to do a left outer join.

On 11/16/05, Ryan Guill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh yeah, if you want to limit it to one, you may want to do
> max(eventDate) > #now()# or min(eventDate) > #now()#
>
> On 11/16/05, Ryan Guill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You almost had it:
> >
> > SELECT
> > eventID,
> > eventName,
> > eventDate,
> > FROM event a
> > INNER JOIN eventDates b ON a.eventID = b.eventID AND eventDate > #now()#
> >
> > actually just learned this yesterday ;)
> >
> > On 11/16/05, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I have 2 tables, for the sake of simplification lets say they look like
> > > this:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > EVENT
> > >
> > > eventID
> > >
> > > eventName
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > EVENTDATES
> > >
> > > eventID
> > >
> > > eventDate
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Each event would be in the event table once, and possibly multiple times 
> > > in
> > > the eventDates table.  I want to have a query return one record for each
> > > event with the next eventDate from the eventDates table.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So basically something like:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Select eventID, eventName, eventDate from event inner join eventDates on
> > > event.eventID=eventDates.eventID where eventDate>#Now()#
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > But I only want 1 record returned for each event. I know I can probably
> > > order by eventID and then do a cfoutput groupby, but I don't really want 
> > > all
> > > those records coming back (I mean it will basically be number of records 
> > > in
> > > the event table * number of records in the eventDates table).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is there a more efficient way of doing this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 

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RE: Query Question

[Russ]

That works as well... but it would require me to put all the other columns
that I'm selecting into the group by clause... 

Wonder which solution is more efficient... this one or the one I came up
with:

Select eventID, eventName, eventDate 
from event inner join eventDates on event.eventID=eventDates.eventID 
where eventDateID IN (select top 1 eventDateID from eventDates where
eventDate>#Now()# and   
eventDate.eventID=event.eventID 
order by eventDate asc) 


-Original Message-
From: Katz, Dov B (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Query Question

How about this?

Select e.eventid, min(ed.eventdate) from events e inner join eventdates
ed on ed.eventid=e.eventid 
Where ed.eventdate > getdate() 
Group by eventid 

-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 4:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Query Question

I have 2 tables, for the sake of simplification lets say they look like
this:

 

EVENT

eventID

eventName

 

 

EVENTDATES

eventID

eventDate

 

Each event would be in the event table once, and possibly multiple times
in the eventDates table.  I want to have a query return one record for
each event with the next eventDate from the eventDates table.  

 

So basically something like:

 

Select eventID, eventName, eventDate from event inner join eventDates on
event.eventID=eventDates.eventID where eventDate>#Now()#

 

But I only want 1 record returned for each event. I know I can probably
order by eventID and then do a cfoutput groupby, but I don't really want
all those records coming back (I mean it will basically be number of
records in the event table * number of records in the eventDates table).


 

Is there a more efficient way of doing this?







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Re: Cfeclipse File Upload

[Nathan Strutz]

You could look into ANT, which is like the 900lb gorilla of project
deployers. It comes with Eclipse (if you downloaded the full SDK).

Sadly, I know nothing much more about it :(

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/

On 11/16/05, Tim Do <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm giving cfeclipse a shot, so far it seems awesome!  I've been a long
> time studio/homesite user.  I'm having difficulty in trying to deploy
> files.  We're a small shop so we don't have builds.  In homesite, I have
> a deployment tool, that uses VTOM scripts to move files.  Something this
> simple, set root folder location and it will move files based on folder
> structure.  I was wondering if there was an equivalent plugin or feature
> within cfeclipse that I'm not seeing.
>
> TIA,
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Solved: Query Question

[Russ]

I figured it out.  I had to add a unique key column to the eventDates table.
Here is the query for archival purposes:

Select eventID, eventName, eventDate from event inner join eventDates on
event.eventID=eventDates.eventID where eventDateID IN (select top 1
eventDateID from eventDates where eventDate>#Now()# and
eventDate.eventID=event.eventID order by eventDate asc) 

Now, the syntax might not be perfect, since I have a different db schema,
but the gist of it should be there.  

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Query Question

This will return only 1 event... I want all the events, but joined to only 1
record in the eventDates per event... 

So originally the query will return something like this

EventID  eventNameeventDate
1  my event 12/1/2005
1  my event 12/2/2005
1  my event 12/3/2005
1  my event 12/4/2005
1  my event 12/5/2005
2  my other event 12/4/2005
2  my other event 12/5/2005


Where I only want
EventID  eventNameeventDate
1  my event 12/1/2005
2  my other event 12/4/2005

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Query Question

I don't know about efficient, but try

SELECT TOP 1 eventID

That's if it's SQL Server, the over DBs will have something similar

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 November 2005 21:56
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Query Question


I have 2 tables, for the sake of simplification lets say they look like
this:



EVENT

eventID

eventName





EVENTDATES

eventID

eventDate



Each event would be in the event table once, and possibly multiple times in
the eventDates table.  I want to have a query return one record for each
event with the next eventDate from the eventDates table.



So basically something like:



Select eventID, eventName, eventDate from event inner join eventDates on
event.eventID=eventDates.eventID where eventDate>#Now()#



But I only want 1 record returned for each event. I know I can probably
order by eventID and then do a cfoutput groupby, but I don't really want all
those records coming back (I mean it will basically be number of records in
the event table * number of records in the eventDates table).



Is there a more efficient way of doing this?






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Re: Cf forum

[Stan Winchester]

If you are interested in trying our Aftershock Forum, please check out 
http://www.aftershockweb.net/forums/ or you can contact me offline at [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] or 503-244-3440.

>Hi guys,
>
>I am needing to integrate a user forum into a client site. I have a bit
>of time up my sleeve for this project so thought I might have a go at
>building (or modifying an existing project) rather than using an off the
>shelf product. To be honest, most apps available I have seen would be
>too advanced for my clients needs.
>
>Question: could anyone point me in the right direction for tips/tricks
>on how to go about building one of these suckers. I would be willing to
>look at any open source projects also - obviously I can learn a lot from
>this way.
>
>The forum will go alongside an ecommerce app, and share the sql server.
>
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Open Source Shopping Cart Architecture

[Andy]

I am posting this in CF-Talk versus the Shopping Cart forum becuase
1.  Architecture discussion may be interesting to those not interested
in Cart
2.  Those not interested in Cart may wish be post opinion (please!)
 
Lets move beyond terms  OO or not OO and get to a specific architecture.
Let me be the first to expose my ignorance and propose the following for
comment:

*   Development will be based off of CFMX 7.0, or whatever the current
version is once we complete the architecture plans. 

*   We use CFC's, with "exposed" CFC's representing business, real life,
objects such as Order, Item, User, etc.  This implies that we may decide to
build base components such as controllers that "Users" will not be able to
call.  Since I don't reallly understand what a controller is, I can't go any
deeper then this. But I thought the term was cool... 

*   Objects can be sent either pre-defined structures or XML.  Agreement
to formats will be later part of discussion 

*   The first person using XML will submit the drafts of both the XML
and the code to convert the XML to non-xml format.  We will plan for the
likihood that this will be needed, just don't have to build it now. 

*   Objects will return the same format that they are sent 

*   Objects and their methods are designed assuming that they are not
persisted 

*   Object methods are designed to complete a single business task (OK
this might be obvious, but I've had a few glasses of port...) 

*   Objects are designed to enable customization without touching base
code, minimizing impact on upgrading to later versions 

*   Objects will NEVER enable output (once debugged, of course!) 

*   Objects will be secured via the "Roles" attribute, which implies
that  has been executed prior to an object being called.  This
is likely to translate into the need for a User object, which is probably a
good idea anyway. Folks who wish to use alternative security can pre-login
users with all possible roles that their Users may require 

*   Objects will NOT test for required variables or variable
formats(date, string, integer, you get the point), except as noted below,
which means that native CFMX errors will be thrown if required formats are
not followed.  Code can be extended as noted above if specific
usage/implementation requires more "User Friendly" error messages 

*   All database activity will be through stored procedures to
completely decouple the application from the underlying database system.  If
you don't like our database design, need to denormalize for perforance, or
need to add attributes, you will be able to do so without complicating
upgrading to later versions. Performance will be improved by enabling even
complex, multi-table adds and updates to be performed with one SQL call 

*   All "calls" to the stored procedures will use CFQueryParam.  Native
CFMX errors will be thrown.  Spoofers be damned 

*   All calls to store procedures will include a User Name and Password,
so if User required security at DB level, OOTB (Out Of The Box) solution
will support

Based off of these requirements, each CFC would have the following
design(items in <>, replace with appropriate Object Name or requested
path\name):
 
Something.cfc extends()
 
   1.  instance = struct new
   2.  instance.obj = createObject( ...) for each "Has A"
relationship.   Do not duplicate object if it is required in multiple
places(e.g. item in an order)
 
Function Init
arguments config
 
1.  move arguments.config to structure
 
Return This
 
Function addXML method  access=Public roles="addSomething"
arguments xmlInput - an XML document in defined format
 
   Return  moveToXML(addObject(moveSomethingFromXML(arguments.xmlInput))
 
Function updateXML method access=Public roles="updateSomething"
arguments xmlInput - an XML document in defined format
 
   Return
moveSomethingToXML(updateObject(moveSomethingFromXML(arguments.xmlInput))
 
Function moveSomthingFromXML method access=Public (to allow for when
Something is the other side of a "Has A" relationship and therefore is an
variable object within another object)
arguments xmlInput
 
   
 
1.  Set local variable Data as a structure
2.  Move standard data elements to Data
  3. If instance.Config not defined and xml\Config is defined
  3.1  Move xmlInput\config to instance.config (allow single call of
object to perform all required tasks.  This will be an include so that it
needs to be created only once for all objects)
4.  If Something object extends another thing 
4.1 instance.data. = xmlmoveToXml(argumetns.xmlInput)
5. If Something object has a "Has A" relationship, for each
relationship:
5.1  variables.data. = xmlmoveToXml(xmlInput\)
6.  If Something has been extended with new attributes as noted in
control block of XML, include addSomethin

RE: Cfeclipse File Upload

[Munson, Jacob]

You can also look at Ant, a simple scripting language that Eclipse
people use for these kind of things.  Here's a good example of what Ant
can do from Rob Rohan's blog:
http://tinyurl.com/ddtzg 

> -Original Message-
> From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:05 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Cfeclipse File Upload
> 
> Not in CFEclipse - yet.  But there are eclipse plugins that provide
> this.  Here are a couple links:
> 
> http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/plugin_details.jsp?id=293
> http://www.phpeclipse.de/tiki-index.php?page=FTP+and+WebDAV
> 
> cheers,
> barneyb
> 
> On 11/16/05, Tim Do <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm giving cfeclipse a shot, so far it seems awesome!  I've 
> been a long
> > time studio/homesite user.  I'm having difficulty in trying 
> to deploy
> > files.  We're a small shop so we don't have builds.  In 
> homesite, I have
> > a deployment tool, that uses VTOM scripts to move files.  
> Something this
> > simple, set root folder location and it will move files 
> based on folder
> > structure.  I was wondering if there was an equivalent 
> plugin or feature
> > within cfeclipse that I'm not seeing.





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RE: CFX_IMAP4 ... or .. ?

[Dawson, Michael]

I have been using it.  It's a great product so far.  The only gripe is
that it can be a bit slow on folders that have many messages in them.

The support is great and the cost is very reasonable.

M!ke 

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 4:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFX_IMAP4 ... or .. ?

Hi,

I have a project coming up where I need to read imap folders to enable
on line reading of archived messages from a mail list.

I've got the mail server / mail list sorted and just need to sort out
something to read the imap folder in CF.

Has anyone had experience of running this:

http://store.newmediadevelopment.net/cfx_imap4_feature_matrix.cfm


or know of a better (free is good) way ?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: Cfeclipse File Upload

[Mik Muller]

Are there any FTP-upload solutions out there for CF?

If uploading 2 GB files via http is unrealistic, does anyone know of 
a free or low-cost browser-based SFTP solution?

I found this, but it's not cheap:  http://radinks.com/sftp/

Michael



At 05:04 PM 11/16/2005, Barney Boisvert wrote:
>Not in CFEclipse - yet.  But there are eclipse plugins that provide
>this.  Here are a couple links:
>
>http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/plugin_details.jsp?id=293
>http://www.phpeclipse.de/tiki-index.php?page=FTP+and+WebDAV
>
>cheers,
>barneyb
>
>On 11/16/05, Tim Do <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm giving cfeclipse a shot, so far it seems awesome!  I've been a long
> > time studio/homesite user.  I'm having difficulty in trying to deploy
> > files.  We're a small shop so we don't have builds.  In homesite, I have
> > a deployment tool, that uses VTOM scripts to move files.  Something this
> > simple, set root folder location and it will move files based on folder
> > structure.  I was wondering if there was an equivalent plugin or feature
> > within cfeclipse that I'm not seeing.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Tim
> >
> >
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RE: Query Question

[Katz, Dov B \(IT\)]

How about this?

Select e.eventid, min(ed.eventdate) from events e inner join eventdates
ed on ed.eventid=e.eventid 
Where ed.eventdate > getdate() 
Group by eventid 

-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 4:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Query Question

I have 2 tables, for the sake of simplification lets say they look like
this:

 

EVENT

eventID

eventName

 

 

EVENTDATES

eventID

eventDate

 

Each event would be in the event table once, and possibly multiple times
in the eventDates table.  I want to have a query return one record for
each event with the next eventDate from the eventDates table.  

 

So basically something like:

 

Select eventID, eventName, eventDate from event inner join eventDates on
event.eventID=eventDates.eventID where eventDate>#Now()#

 

But I only want 1 record returned for each event. I know I can probably
order by eventID and then do a cfoutput groupby, but I don't really want
all those records coming back (I mean it will basically be number of
records in the event table * number of records in the eventDates table).


 

Is there a more efficient way of doing this?





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RE: Cf forum

[Mark A Kruger]

ooh and there's another thing I hate... I hate having to "turn on" or
"turn off" features that I have already deemed (in my infinite wisdom) to be
irrelevant. Software should sense my mood and act accordingly dang it
(huff)... I'll be in my trailer.

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 4:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cf forum


That is the nice thing about having settings as a user that let you turn off
the viewing of things you dislike such as avatars or signatures or attached
images and so on. I personally can not stand signatures that have big honkin
images in them so I just turn that off in my settings on every forum I
visit.

On 11/16/05, Mark A Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ray - I'm with you. I love galleon and I detest all the avatars and
> smileys
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>
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Re: Query Question

[Yisroel Spanier]

in MySQL you can do this:

SELECT e.eventID, e.eventName,
  (SELECT GROUP_CONCAT(ed.eventDate, ', ') FROM EventDates ed
   WHERE ed.EventID = e.EventID AND ed.eventDate > Now()) as eventDatesList
FROM Events e

This will give you nicely formatted list of all the dates for each event

(i havent checked the exact syntax. if it doesn't work, I'll look it up)

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: RE: Query Question


>I don't know about efficient, but try
>
> SELECT TOP 1 eventID
>
> That's if it's SQL Server, the over DBs will have something similar
>
> Ade
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 November 2005 21:56
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Query Question
>
>
> I have 2 tables, for the sake of simplification lets say they look like
> this:
>
>
>
> EVENT
>
> eventID
>
> eventName
>
>
>
>
>
> EVENTDATES
>
> eventID
>
> eventDate
>
>
>
> Each event would be in the event table once, and possibly multiple times 
> in
> the eventDates table.  I want to have a query return one record for each
> event with the next eventDate from the eventDates table.
>
>
>
> So basically something like:
>
>
>
> Select eventID, eventName, eventDate from event inner join eventDates on
> event.eventID=eventDates.eventID where eventDate>#Now()#
>
>
>
> But I only want 1 record returned for each event. I know I can probably
> order by eventID and then do a cfoutput groupby, but I don't really want 
> all
> those records coming back (I mean it will basically be number of records 
> in
> the event table * number of records in the eventDates table).
>
>
>
> Is there a more efficient way of doing this?
>
>
> 

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Re: Cf forum

[Raymond Camden]

Different levels -is- in Galleon now. It gives you a different title
when you post.

On 11/16/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ray, I'd like to see Avatars, although I call them member photos. =)
>
> I'd like to be able to set multiple levels of poster (moderator,
> expert, guest) and be able to distinguish between them on the display
> (different color treatments on display for example).
>
> I'd like to be able to control what type of user can create new
> [forum|topic|post] in each forum individually.
> I'd like to be able to create a new forum, and control via date/time
> when that forum goes live.
> I'd like to be able to create a new topic, and control via data/time
> when it goes live. (When it can be viewed, when it can be responded to
> by each type of user)
>
> (I have a very specific symposium need at the moment)
>
> On 11/16/05, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sorry - I see snake - I type spike. ;)
> >
> > So, not to be pushy though, but can you list specific things you would
> > like to see added? The only ones that come to mind are:
> >
> > Avatars (seems a bit silly)
> > BBML (or whatever it is called, which is just a smiley language, right)
> >
> > I've tried to focus on the core aspects of a forum. A lot of the stuff
> > I see other forums as having seems more like fluff than anything else.
> > (In general.)
> >
> > On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > You do like calling me Spike don't you ray.
> > >
> > > I had a look at your site that is using galleon, and there just didn't 
> > > seem
> > > to be much to it. Threads and posts and that is it.
> > > Fusetalk for example is OTT and personally I think it is way to 
> > > complicated
> > > for most users, is not user friendly and is not very stable either.
> > > I really like PHPBB, it does just about everything you need a forum to to,
> > > or vBulletin.
> > > CFBB below is not bad, but it seriously need a frameowrk behind it and 
> > > some
> > > brushing up as it's quite messy, but it's probably the closest I have seen
> > > to the superior PHP forums.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Snake
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 16 November 2005 17:41
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: Cf forum
> > >
> > > Spike, can you tell me what features you would like to see included in
> > > Galleon? While I don't think Galleon has as many features as other 
> > > forums, I
> > > don't think it is fair to say it is 'very basic'.
> > >
> > > (Of course, as the author, I'm probalby being defensive.)
> > >
> > > On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Ray's is very very basic.
> > > > Try these
> > > >
> > > > http://www.1000ad.net/index.cfm?page=cfbb
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ipostmx.com/
> > > >
> > > > Snake
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 16 November 2005 01:27
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: Cf forum
> > > >
> > > > Actually, I do not know how I missed this but there is an open source
> > > > forum on ray's site. I will check this out.
> > > >
> > > > mike
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 2:18 p.m.
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: Cf forum
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >
> > > > I am needing to integrate a user forum into a client site. I have a
> > > > bit of time up my sleeve for this project so thought I might have a go
> > > > at building (or modifying an existing project) rather than using an
> > > > off the shelf product. To be honest, most apps available I have seen
> > > > would be too advanced for my clients needs.
> > > >
> > > > Question: could anyone point me in the right direction for tips/tricks
> > > > on how to go about building one of these suckers. I would be willing
> > > > to look at any open source projects also - obviously I can learn a lot
> > > > from this way.
> > > >
> > > > The forum will go alongside an ecommerce app, and share the sql server.
> > > >
> > > > mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Query Question

[Ryan Guill]

Oh yeah, if you want to limit it to one, you may want to do
max(eventDate) > #now()# or min(eventDate) > #now()#

On 11/16/05, Ryan Guill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You almost had it:
>
> SELECT
> eventID,
> eventName,
> eventDate,
> FROM event a
> INNER JOIN eventDates b ON a.eventID = b.eventID AND eventDate > #now()#
>
> actually just learned this yesterday ;)
>
> On 11/16/05, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have 2 tables, for the sake of simplification lets say they look like
> > this:
> >
> >
> >
> > EVENT
> >
> > eventID
> >
> > eventName
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > EVENTDATES
> >
> > eventID
> >
> > eventDate
> >
> >
> >
> > Each event would be in the event table once, and possibly multiple times in
> > the eventDates table.  I want to have a query return one record for each
> > event with the next eventDate from the eventDates table.
> >
> >
> >
> > So basically something like:
> >
> >
> >
> > Select eventID, eventName, eventDate from event inner join eventDates on
> > event.eventID=eventDates.eventID where eventDate>#Now()#
> >
> >
> >
> > But I only want 1 record returned for each event. I know I can probably
> > order by eventID and then do a cfoutput groupby, but I don't really want all
> > those records coming back (I mean it will basically be number of records in
> > the event table * number of records in the eventDates table).
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there a more efficient way of doing this?
> >
> >
> >
> > 

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Re: Query Question

[Ryan Guill]

You almost had it:

SELECT
eventID,
eventName,
eventDate,
FROM event a
INNER JOIN eventDates b ON a.eventID = b.eventID AND eventDate > #now()#

actually just learned this yesterday ;)

On 11/16/05, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have 2 tables, for the sake of simplification lets say they look like
> this:
>
>
>
> EVENT
>
> eventID
>
> eventName
>
>
>
>
>
> EVENTDATES
>
> eventID
>
> eventDate
>
>
>
> Each event would be in the event table once, and possibly multiple times in
> the eventDates table.  I want to have a query return one record for each
> event with the next eventDate from the eventDates table.
>
>
>
> So basically something like:
>
>
>
> Select eventID, eventName, eventDate from event inner join eventDates on
> event.eventID=eventDates.eventID where eventDate>#Now()#
>
>
>
> But I only want 1 record returned for each event. I know I can probably
> order by eventID and then do a cfoutput groupby, but I don't really want all
> those records coming back (I mean it will basically be number of records in
> the event table * number of records in the eventDates table).
>
>
>
> Is there a more efficient way of doing this?
>
>
>
> 

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CFX_IMAP4 ... or .. ?

[Jennifer Gavin-Wear]

Hi,

I have a project coming up where I need to read imap folders to enable on
line reading of archived messages from a mail list.

I've got the mail server / mail list sorted and just need to sort out
something to read the imap folder in CF.

Has anyone had experience of running this:

http://store.newmediadevelopment.net/cfx_imap4_feature_matrix.cfm


or know of a better (free is good) way ?

Thanks in advance,

Jenny



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RE: Query Question

[Russ]

This will return only 1 event... I want all the events, but joined to only 1
record in the eventDates per event... 

So originally the query will return something like this

EventID  eventNameeventDate
1  my event 12/1/2005
1  my event 12/2/2005
1  my event 12/3/2005
1  my event 12/4/2005
1  my event 12/5/2005
2  my other event 12/4/2005
2  my other event 12/5/2005


Where I only want
EventID  eventNameeventDate
1  my event 12/1/2005
2  my other event 12/4/2005

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Query Question

I don't know about efficient, but try

SELECT TOP 1 eventID

That's if it's SQL Server, the over DBs will have something similar

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 November 2005 21:56
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Query Question


I have 2 tables, for the sake of simplification lets say they look like
this:



EVENT

eventID

eventName





EVENTDATES

eventID

eventDate



Each event would be in the event table once, and possibly multiple times in
the eventDates table.  I want to have a query return one record for each
event with the next eventDate from the eventDates table.



So basically something like:



Select eventID, eventName, eventDate from event inner join eventDates on
event.eventID=eventDates.eventID where eventDate>#Now()#



But I only want 1 record returned for each event. I know I can probably
order by eventID and then do a cfoutput groupby, but I don't really want all
those records coming back (I mean it will basically be number of records in
the event table * number of records in the eventDates table).



Is there a more efficient way of doing this?




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Re: Cf forum

[Aaron Rouse]

That is the nice thing about having settings as a user that let you turn off
the viewing of things you dislike such as avatars or signatures or attached
images and so on. I personally can not stand signatures that have big honkin
images in them so I just turn that off in my settings on every forum I
visit.

On 11/16/05, Mark A Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ray - I'm with you. I love galleon and I detest all the avatars and
> smileys
> in other forums.
>
>
>


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Re: Cfeclipse File Upload

[Barney Boisvert]

Not in CFEclipse - yet.  But there are eclipse plugins that provide
this.  Here are a couple links:

http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/plugin_details.jsp?id=293
http://www.phpeclipse.de/tiki-index.php?page=FTP+and+WebDAV

cheers,
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> Hi All,
>
> I'm giving cfeclipse a shot, so far it seems awesome!  I've been a long
> time studio/homesite user.  I'm having difficulty in trying to deploy
> files.  We're a small shop so we don't have builds.  In homesite, I have
> a deployment tool, that uses VTOM scripts to move files.  Something this
> simple, set root folder location and it will move files based on folder
> structure.  I was wondering if there was an equivalent plugin or feature
> within cfeclipse that I'm not seeing.
>
> TIA,
> Tim
>
>
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RE: Query Question

[Adrian Lynch]

I don't know about efficient, but try

SELECT TOP 1 eventID

That's if it's SQL Server, the over DBs will have something similar

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 November 2005 21:56
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Query Question


I have 2 tables, for the sake of simplification lets say they look like
this:



EVENT

eventID

eventName





EVENTDATES

eventID

eventDate



Each event would be in the event table once, and possibly multiple times in
the eventDates table.  I want to have a query return one record for each
event with the next eventDate from the eventDates table.



So basically something like:



Select eventID, eventName, eventDate from event inner join eventDates on
event.eventID=eventDates.eventID where eventDate>#Now()#



But I only want 1 record returned for each event. I know I can probably
order by eventID and then do a cfoutput groupby, but I don't really want all
those records coming back (I mean it will basically be number of records in
the event table * number of records in the eventDates table).



Is there a more efficient way of doing this?


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Re: Cf forum

[Jerry Johnson]

Ray, I'd like to see Avatars, although I call them member photos. =)

I'd like to be able to set multiple levels of poster (moderator,
expert, guest) and be able to distinguish between them on the display
(different color treatments on display for example).

I'd like to be able to control what type of user can create new
[forum|topic|post] in each forum individually.
I'd like to be able to create a new forum, and control via date/time
when that forum goes live.
I'd like to be able to create a new topic, and control via data/time
when it goes live. (When it can be viewed, when it can be responded to
by each type of user)

(I have a very specific symposium need at the moment)

On 11/16/05, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry - I see snake - I type spike. ;)
>
> So, not to be pushy though, but can you list specific things you would
> like to see added? The only ones that come to mind are:
>
> Avatars (seems a bit silly)
> BBML (or whatever it is called, which is just a smiley language, right)
>
> I've tried to focus on the core aspects of a forum. A lot of the stuff
> I see other forums as having seems more like fluff than anything else.
> (In general.)
>
> On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You do like calling me Spike don't you ray.
> >
> > I had a look at your site that is using galleon, and there just didn't seem
> > to be much to it. Threads and posts and that is it.
> > Fusetalk for example is OTT and personally I think it is way to complicated
> > for most users, is not user friendly and is not very stable either.
> > I really like PHPBB, it does just about everything you need a forum to to,
> > or vBulletin.
> > CFBB below is not bad, but it seriously need a frameowrk behind it and some
> > brushing up as it's quite messy, but it's probably the closest I have seen
> > to the superior PHP forums.
> >
> > --
> > Snake
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 16 November 2005 17:41
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Cf forum
> >
> > Spike, can you tell me what features you would like to see included in
> > Galleon? While I don't think Galleon has as many features as other forums, I
> > don't think it is fair to say it is 'very basic'.
> >
> > (Of course, as the author, I'm probalby being defensive.)
> >
> > On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Ray's is very very basic.
> > > Try these
> > >
> > > http://www.1000ad.net/index.cfm?page=cfbb
> > >
> > > http://www.ipostmx.com/
> > >
> > > Snake
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 16 November 2005 01:27
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: Cf forum
> > >
> > > Actually, I do not know how I missed this but there is an open source
> > > forum on ray's site. I will check this out.
> > >
> > > mike
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 2:18 p.m.
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Cf forum
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I am needing to integrate a user forum into a client site. I have a
> > > bit of time up my sleeve for this project so thought I might have a go
> > > at building (or modifying an existing project) rather than using an
> > > off the shelf product. To be honest, most apps available I have seen
> > > would be too advanced for my clients needs.
> > >
> > > Question: could anyone point me in the right direction for tips/tricks
> > > on how to go about building one of these suckers. I would be willing
> > > to look at any open source projects also - obviously I can learn a lot
> > > from this way.
> > >
> > > The forum will go alongside an ecommerce app, and share the sql server.
> > >
> > > mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Query Question

[Russ]

I have 2 tables, for the sake of simplification lets say they look like
this:

 

EVENT

eventID

eventName

 

 

EVENTDATES

eventID

eventDate

 

Each event would be in the event table once, and possibly multiple times in
the eventDates table.  I want to have a query return one record for each
event with the next eventDate from the eventDates table.  

 

So basically something like:

 

Select eventID, eventName, eventDate from event inner join eventDates on
event.eventID=eventDates.eventID where eventDate>#Now()#

 

But I only want 1 record returned for each event. I know I can probably
order by eventID and then do a cfoutput groupby, but I don't really want all
those records coming back (I mean it will basically be number of records in
the event table * number of records in the eventDates table).  

 

Is there a more efficient way of doing this?



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Cfeclipse File Upload

[Tim Do]

Hi All,
 
I'm giving cfeclipse a shot, so far it seems awesome!  I've been a long
time studio/homesite user.  I'm having difficulty in trying to deploy
files.  We're a small shop so we don't have builds.  In homesite, I have
a deployment tool, that uses VTOM scripts to move files.  Something this
simple, set root folder location and it will move files based on folder
structure.  I was wondering if there was an equivalent plugin or feature
within cfeclipse that I'm not seeing. 
 
TIA,
Tim
 
 
 


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RE: Cf forum

[Mark A Kruger]

Ray - I'm with you. I love galleon and I detest all the avatars and smileys
in other forums.


-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cf forum


Sorry - I see snake - I type spike. ;)

So, not to be pushy though, but can you list specific things you would
like to see added? The only ones that come to mind are:

Avatars (seems a bit silly)
BBML (or whatever it is called, which is just a smiley language, right)

I've tried to focus on the core aspects of a forum. A lot of the stuff
I see other forums as having seems more like fluff than anything else.
(In general.)

On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You do like calling me Spike don't you ray.
>
> I had a look at your site that is using galleon, and there just didn't
seem
> to be much to it. Threads and posts and that is it.
> Fusetalk for example is OTT and personally I think it is way to
complicated
> for most users, is not user friendly and is not very stable either.
> I really like PHPBB, it does just about everything you need a forum to to,
> or vBulletin.
> CFBB below is not bad, but it seriously need a frameowrk behind it and
some
> brushing up as it's quite messy, but it's probably the closest I have seen
> to the superior PHP forums.
>
> --
> Snake
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 November 2005 17:41
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Cf forum
>
> Spike, can you tell me what features you would like to see included in
> Galleon? While I don't think Galleon has as many features as other forums,
I
> don't think it is fair to say it is 'very basic'.
>
> (Of course, as the author, I'm probalby being defensive.)
>
> On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ray's is very very basic.
> > Try these
> >
> > http://www.1000ad.net/index.cfm?page=cfbb
> >
> > http://www.ipostmx.com/
> >
> > Snake
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 16 November 2005 01:27
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Cf forum
> >
> > Actually, I do not know how I missed this but there is an open source
> > forum on ray's site. I will check this out.
> >
> > mike
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 2:18 p.m.
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Cf forum
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I am needing to integrate a user forum into a client site. I have a
> > bit of time up my sleeve for this project so thought I might have a go
> > at building (or modifying an existing project) rather than using an
> > off the shelf product. To be honest, most apps available I have seen
> > would be too advanced for my clients needs.
> >
> > Question: could anyone point me in the right direction for tips/tricks
> > on how to go about building one of these suckers. I would be willing
> > to look at any open source projects also - obviously I can learn a lot
> > from this way.
> >
> > The forum will go alongside an ecommerce app, and share the sql server.
> >
> > mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



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RE: Cf forum

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:58 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Cf forum
> 
> Sorry - I see snake - I type spike. ;)
> 
> So, not to be pushy though, but can you list specific things you would
> like to see added? The only ones that come to mind are:
> 
> Avatars (seems a bit silly)
> BBML (or whatever it is called, which is just a smiley language, right)

Of course, Ray, you could add BBML support very easily:

http://www.depressedpress.com/Content/Development/ColdFusion/Extensions/DP_P
arseBBML/Index.cfm

>hint, hint<

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RE: DB connection question

[Mark A Kruger]

yeah yeah... you still get what I'm saying - right?


-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DB connection question


Just one thing wrong with your 80/20 definition.  There is no such thing as
100% secure, not matter how much money you spend on it.  What people need to
decide is how much security is "good enough" for their data.

-Original Message-
From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DB connection question

Regarding ISP's - I suspect that access to DB's is regarded as a necessary
evil. In order to compete they will have to allow access. The margin is
decreased by some factor with every support call - so a high level of
convenience and fewer hurdles bring a higher return.  More to the point,
while your ISP is concerned with keeping servers up - they are not
responsible for your data. Read your terms of use - it's full of cavaets and
addendums that limit the ISP's responsibility

In fact for many sites this makes perfect sense. Exposure is minimal because
the amount of type of data they store is minmal. If you REALLY feel that
your data is SO important that it should have the highest level of security
then you better get used to paying for it - and we better not see any more
posts regarding an "affordable" coldfusion hosts - by which they mean below
costs :)  Folks that quibble over savings of less than 200 or 300 dollars a
year have little room to be griping about security at their ISP (g). Read
the pre-nup before you say I do.

I always think of security as one of those 80/20 things.  If 100% security
takes $100, then in todays world you can get 80% security for $20 dollars.
The remaining 20% of the security hill costs the remain 80% of the money.
That means you can maintain a "reasonable" level of security (reasonable for
many sites - though not all)  for "reasonable" cost, but costs go up
exponentially to tighten security that last little bit.

That's my take. I'll probably change my mind tomorrow after Dave straightens
me out :)

-Mark






-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DB connection question


> Well if all of this true, it /should/ be possible to have a secured DB
> access system by using all of these:
> 1.  Non-standard access port

That simply requires an attacker to find out what ports are being used,
which is usually not difficult.

> 2.  Non-standard user names
> 3.  Enforced strong passwords that change periodically

Those would both help, certainly, but by themselves would probably not be
sufficient.

> 4.  Secured tunnel access (SSH, SSL, etc.)

That would secure access to the database to a sufficient degree for most
uses, as long as access can't be gained through brute-force attacks.

> 5.  Any other security practices I'm forgetting

One of those "other security practices" is, don't allow direct access to
your database.

> A few folks in this thread have mentioned 'big name' ISPs that allow
> remote DB administration, so it must not be considered a big security
> risk.  Either that, or money talks!  ;)

I would go with "money talks", actually.

There are a lot of reasons why they allow it, I'm sure. First of all, most
shared hosting customers are probably not that concerned with security. Most
probably don't have sensitive data. Most would rather be able to connect to
their database server. It's ok to value convenience over security, as long
as you're aware of the trade-off you're making.

Second, the security concerns of you and your ISP may differ somewhat. Your
ISP is probably more concerned that their servers will be rooted. You may be
more concerned about the integrity of your data. Granting remote access to
your database may not be a security issue for your ISP, even if it is for
you - this would depend on how the database server itself is configured.

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Re: Cf forum

[Aaron Rouse]

True, I was commenting more from a users stand point and as a user I do not
care where the forum is being hosted/served from.
 Raymond, I think a lot of joe users out there like the fluff.

 On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My only bugbear is PHP. It runs like a dog on windows compared to
> everything
> else.
>
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RE: CF Hosting

[Adkins, Randy]

I looked over some of the Hosting providers from forta.com and
Found this one:  http://www.coldfusion-mx-hosting.com/

Does anyone have experience with them?

Based on one of their plans, it is something I am looking for:
SmarterMail (includes webmail),
SmarterStats (web stats),
Use of CFFILE, CFDIRECTORY
Up to 10 domains, 99 sub-domains. 
Use of MS Access, SQL Server, or MySQL Server

All at a nice price :-)



-Original Message-
From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Hosting

> Why not have a look at www.forta.com for the reviews of hosts.
> We do quite well on here, CFMx Hosting doesn't have a single bad 
> review :-)

Good idea.  Last I tried Ben's app it didn't work on Firefox/Linux.  But
today I'm on windows, and it works.

I can't remember, are you with CrystalTech?  It looks like HostMySite
has a better review, but it might not matter that much in the end.
Plus, CrystalTech is Windows only, from what I understand.  However,
HostMySite is kind of spendy...it doesn't look like they offer any lower
end products on the Linux side (if you want CF).


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RE: FCKEditor and uploading images

[Jennifer Gavin-Wear]

Hi,

I've got the same problem, unable to upload images.

I've set the fckconfig.js for cfm, but when i try uploading a photo it just
sites there with "Upload in progress".

Any ideas please?

Jenny


-Original Message-
From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 November 2005 20:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: FCKEditor and uploading images


Yeah, I got it to work.

You need to edit fckconfig.js to use the CF connector in both the
linkbrowser and the imagebrowser areas.

Pete

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> Anyone here get the FCKEditor image uploader working in CF? One of the
> developers here is having trouble getting it to work and there wasn't
> much on the web site about it.
>
> --
> Phil
>
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Re: Cf forum

[Raymond Camden]

Sorry - I see snake - I type spike. ;)

So, not to be pushy though, but can you list specific things you would
like to see added? The only ones that come to mind are:

Avatars (seems a bit silly)
BBML (or whatever it is called, which is just a smiley language, right)

I've tried to focus on the core aspects of a forum. A lot of the stuff
I see other forums as having seems more like fluff than anything else.
(In general.)

On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You do like calling me Spike don't you ray.
>
> I had a look at your site that is using galleon, and there just didn't seem
> to be much to it. Threads and posts and that is it.
> Fusetalk for example is OTT and personally I think it is way to complicated
> for most users, is not user friendly and is not very stable either.
> I really like PHPBB, it does just about everything you need a forum to to,
> or vBulletin.
> CFBB below is not bad, but it seriously need a frameowrk behind it and some
> brushing up as it's quite messy, but it's probably the closest I have seen
> to the superior PHP forums.
>
> --
> Snake
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 November 2005 17:41
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Cf forum
>
> Spike, can you tell me what features you would like to see included in
> Galleon? While I don't think Galleon has as many features as other forums, I
> don't think it is fair to say it is 'very basic'.
>
> (Of course, as the author, I'm probalby being defensive.)
>
> On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ray's is very very basic.
> > Try these
> >
> > http://www.1000ad.net/index.cfm?page=cfbb
> >
> > http://www.ipostmx.com/
> >
> > Snake
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 16 November 2005 01:27
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Cf forum
> >
> > Actually, I do not know how I missed this but there is an open source
> > forum on ray's site. I will check this out.
> >
> > mike
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 2:18 p.m.
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Cf forum
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I am needing to integrate a user forum into a client site. I have a
> > bit of time up my sleeve for this project so thought I might have a go
> > at building (or modifying an existing project) rather than using an
> > off the shelf product. To be honest, most apps available I have seen
> > would be too advanced for my clients needs.
> >
> > Question: could anyone point me in the right direction for tips/tricks
> > on how to go about building one of these suckers. I would be willing
> > to look at any open source projects also - obviously I can learn a lot
> > from this way.
> >
> > The forum will go alongside an ecommerce app, and share the sql server.
> >
> > mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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cfcache adds comment on first line of cfcache'd page.. my css doesn't work now.

[Jon Block]

I need help trying to find out how to make my doctype work right with
cfcache. Take a look at the following comment I found on the CFCACHE
docs. I need to find out how to circumvent this problem.
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jsm said on Aug 9, 2005 at 7:04 AM : 
CfCache adds an html comment on the first line of the page being cached
(server side cached). However, the first line is reserved for the
DOCTYPE declaration. With the comment generated by CF, it cancels out
the basis of having a doctype declaration, and therefore does not allow
standards based, css websites to be integrated with server caching. 

In short, MSIE goes into quirks mode and ignores your CSS. 
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Re: FCKEditor and uploading images

[Pete Ruckelshaus]

Yeah, I got it to work.

You need to edit fckconfig.js to use the CF connector in both the
linkbrowser and the imagebrowser areas.

Pete

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Re: createodbcdatetime change in behaviour?

[John Beynon]

the example i gave is exactly what cfdirectory returns on cf 6.1 - ie a 
datetime object formatted as 06 April 2005 etc and it does work as i would 
expect. cf7.1 cfdirectory returns datelastmodified differently to how 6.1 does 
therefore breaking createodbcdatetime()

john.

>>>createodbcdatetime()
>
>Are you calling createodbcdatetime() directly on strings like "06 April 
>2005 08:16:51 o'clock BST"?
>If yes, this is wront, createodbcdatetime() expects a date as paremeter, 
>not a string;
>If you supply a string representing a date, CF will try to convert it 
>first to a date, and guess the format.
>Many time it will guess wrong.
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RE: Cf forum

[Snake]

My only bugbear is PHP. It runs like a dog on windows compared to everything
else. 

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 November 2005 19:58
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cf forum

I think SMF is a rather non-basic forum. I used to be a big fan of vBulletin
but lately I sway between vB and SMF.
 http://www.simplemachines.org/

 On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You do like calling me Spike don't you ray.
>
> I had a look at your site that is using galleon, and there just didn't 
> seem to be much to it. Threads and posts and that is it.
> Fusetalk for example is OTT and personally I think it is way to 
> complicated for most users, is not user friendly and is not very 
> stable either.
> I really like PHPBB, it does just about everything you need a forum to 
> to, or vBulletin.
> CFBB below is not bad, but it seriously need a frameowrk behind it and 
> some brushing up as it's quite messy, but it's probably the closest I 
> have seen to the superior PHP forums.
>
> --
> Snake
>
>
>




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Re: listgetat issue...

[Jason Troy]

Obviously, if you need to preserve the URL Encoded format, just re-encode the 
output:
urlencodedformat(listgetat(urlDecode(session.search_keywords), 1, " "))
urlencodedformat(listgetat(urlDecode(session.search_keywords), 2, " "))


>listgetat(urlDecode(session.search_keywords), 1, " ")
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>Protoculture wrote:
>
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RE: DB connection question

[Munson, Jacob]

> Second, the security concerns of you and your ISP may differ 
> somewhat. Your
> ISP is probably more concerned that their servers will be 
> rooted. You may be
> more concerned about the integrity of your data. Granting 
> remote access to
> your database may not be a security issue for your ISP, even 
> if it is for
> you - this would depend on how the database server itself is 
> configured.

Good point.  And if the ISP sets up the DB correctly, a brute force on
one of their client's accounts will only give an attacker access to that
client's data (unless he fires of a DOS or something like that, but
those usually don't need DB access to succeed).  So in the end the
exposure is what the client is willing to deal with, and the client is
the only loser if an attack occurs.





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RE: DB connection question

[Russ]

Just one thing wrong with your 80/20 definition.  There is no such thing as
100% secure, not matter how much money you spend on it.  What people need to
decide is how much security is "good enough" for their data.  

-Original Message-
From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DB connection question

Regarding ISP's - I suspect that access to DB's is regarded as a necessary
evil. In order to compete they will have to allow access. The margin is
decreased by some factor with every support call - so a high level of
convenience and fewer hurdles bring a higher return.  More to the point,
while your ISP is concerned with keeping servers up - they are not
responsible for your data. Read your terms of use - it's full of cavaets and
addendums that limit the ISP's responsibility

In fact for many sites this makes perfect sense. Exposure is minimal because
the amount of type of data they store is minmal. If you REALLY feel that
your data is SO important that it should have the highest level of security
then you better get used to paying for it - and we better not see any more
posts regarding an "affordable" coldfusion hosts - by which they mean below
costs :)  Folks that quibble over savings of less than 200 or 300 dollars a
year have little room to be griping about security at their ISP (g). Read
the pre-nup before you say I do.

I always think of security as one of those 80/20 things.  If 100% security
takes $100, then in todays world you can get 80% security for $20 dollars.
The remaining 20% of the security hill costs the remain 80% of the money.
That means you can maintain a "reasonable" level of security (reasonable for
many sites - though not all)  for "reasonable" cost, but costs go up
exponentially to tighten security that last little bit.

That's my take. I'll probably change my mind tomorrow after Dave straightens
me out :)

-Mark






-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DB connection question


> Well if all of this true, it /should/ be possible to have a secured DB
> access system by using all of these:
> 1.  Non-standard access port

That simply requires an attacker to find out what ports are being used,
which is usually not difficult.

> 2.  Non-standard user names
> 3.  Enforced strong passwords that change periodically

Those would both help, certainly, but by themselves would probably not be
sufficient.

> 4.  Secured tunnel access (SSH, SSL, etc.)

That would secure access to the database to a sufficient degree for most
uses, as long as access can't be gained through brute-force attacks.

> 5.  Any other security practices I'm forgetting

One of those "other security practices" is, don't allow direct access to
your database.

> A few folks in this thread have mentioned 'big name' ISPs that allow
> remote DB administration, so it must not be considered a big security
> risk.  Either that, or money talks!  ;)

I would go with "money talks", actually.

There are a lot of reasons why they allow it, I'm sure. First of all, most
shared hosting customers are probably not that concerned with security. Most
probably don't have sensitive data. Most would rather be able to connect to
their database server. It's ok to value convenience over security, as long
as you're aware of the trade-off you're making.

Second, the security concerns of you and your ISP may differ somewhat. Your
ISP is probably more concerned that their servers will be rooted. You may be
more concerned about the integrity of your data. Granting remote access to
your database may not be a security issue for your ISP, even if it is for
you - this would depend on how the database server itself is configured.

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RE: DB connection question

[Mark A Kruger]

Regarding ISP's - I suspect that access to DB's is regarded as a necessary
evil. In order to compete they will have to allow access. The margin is
decreased by some factor with every support call - so a high level of
convenience and fewer hurdles bring a higher return.  More to the point,
while your ISP is concerned with keeping servers up - they are not
responsible for your data. Read your terms of use - it's full of cavaets and
addendums that limit the ISP's responsibility

In fact for many sites this makes perfect sense. Exposure is minimal because
the amount of type of data they store is minmal. If you REALLY feel that
your data is SO important that it should have the highest level of security
then you better get used to paying for it - and we better not see any more
posts regarding an "affordable" coldfusion hosts - by which they mean below
costs :)  Folks that quibble over savings of less than 200 or 300 dollars a
year have little room to be griping about security at their ISP (g). Read
the pre-nup before you say I do.

I always think of security as one of those 80/20 things.  If 100% security
takes $100, then in todays world you can get 80% security for $20 dollars.
The remaining 20% of the security hill costs the remain 80% of the money.
That means you can maintain a "reasonable" level of security (reasonable for
many sites - though not all)  for "reasonable" cost, but costs go up
exponentially to tighten security that last little bit.

That's my take. I'll probably change my mind tomorrow after Dave straightens
me out :)

-Mark






-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DB connection question


> Well if all of this true, it /should/ be possible to have a secured DB
> access system by using all of these:
> 1.  Non-standard access port

That simply requires an attacker to find out what ports are being used,
which is usually not difficult.

> 2.  Non-standard user names
> 3.  Enforced strong passwords that change periodically

Those would both help, certainly, but by themselves would probably not be
sufficient.

> 4.  Secured tunnel access (SSH, SSL, etc.)

That would secure access to the database to a sufficient degree for most
uses, as long as access can't be gained through brute-force attacks.

> 5.  Any other security practices I'm forgetting

One of those "other security practices" is, don't allow direct access to
your database.

> A few folks in this thread have mentioned 'big name' ISPs that allow
> remote DB administration, so it must not be considered a big security
> risk.  Either that, or money talks!  ;)

I would go with "money talks", actually.

There are a lot of reasons why they allow it, I'm sure. First of all, most
shared hosting customers are probably not that concerned with security. Most
probably don't have sensitive data. Most would rather be able to connect to
their database server. It's ok to value convenience over security, as long
as you're aware of the trade-off you're making.

Second, the security concerns of you and your ISP may differ somewhat. Your
ISP is probably more concerned that their servers will be rooted. You may be
more concerned about the integrity of your data. Granting remote access to
your database may not be a security issue for your ISP, even if it is for
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RE: CF Hosting

[Munson, Jacob]

> Why not have a look at www.forta.com for the reviews of hosts.
> We do quite well on here, CFMx Hosting doesn't have a single 
> bad review :-)

Good idea.  Last I tried Ben's app it didn't work on Firefox/Linux.  But
today I'm on windows, and it works.

I can't remember, are you with CrystalTech?  It looks like HostMySite
has a better review, but it might not matter that much in the end.
Plus, CrystalTech is Windows only, from what I understand.  However,
HostMySite is kind of spendy...it doesn't look like they offer any lower
end products on the Linux side (if you want CF).


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FCKEditor and uploading images

[Phill B]

Anyone here get the FCKEditor image uploader working in CF? One of the
developers here is having trouble getting it to work and there wasn't
much on the web site about it.

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CF Reporting / Report Builder Questions

[jonese]

Ok i'm just diving into Report builder and i'm trying to build a
report for the first time.

My question is can i have multiple queries instead of just one massive
query, and if so how do i referance the values in these other queries.

I've found the Report Query tool and have seen the advanced settings
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Re: Cf forum

[Aaron Rouse]

I think SMF is a rather non-basic forum. I used to be a big fan of vBulletin
but lately I sway between vB and SMF.
 http://www.simplemachines.org/

 On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You do like calling me Spike don't you ray.
>
> I had a look at your site that is using galleon, and there just didn't
> seem
> to be much to it. Threads and posts and that is it.
> Fusetalk for example is OTT and personally I think it is way to
> complicated
> for most users, is not user friendly and is not very stable either.
> I really like PHPBB, it does just about everything you need a forum to to,
> or vBulletin.
> CFBB below is not bad, but it seriously need a frameowrk behind it and
> some
> brushing up as it's quite messy, but it's probably the closest I have seen
> to the superior PHP forums.
>
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RE: CF Hosting

[Russ]

Why would you prefer not to use ftp?  And is this a linux or a windows box?

-Original Message-
From: Mik Muller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Hosting

I'm moving off them at this time since I've partnered up with some 
folks and we're ramping up my software. We chose Savvis and got a cranking
box.

My main problem now is trying to upload very large files and I'm not 
finding any solutions except FTP, which I'd really preder not to do. 
There has to be a way to upload 2 GB files via http.

Michael


At 12:55 PM 11/16/2005, you wrote:
>Mike,
>
>Viux was also one of the hosting companies I was researching.
>They seem to have a good pricing plan too.
>A reason that Xtreme hosting sounded good to me was the unlimited 
>SQL Server Databases.
>
>Thanks for the info though.
>
>I'd rather get my own server and play around with it, but then I 
>don't have the $$ or time :(
>
>Cheers,
>Ali
> >I had used Viux for a couple of years under their shared hosting plan
> >(up to 20 sites for a flat-rate of $75/mo) when I found a client who
> >paid me enough in maintenance that I could afford a co-located
> >solution and got my own box. Not the most robust of servers, it was
> >still mine alone and cost only $400 / mo. I could have splurged for a
> >better box but I figured I wouldn't have more than 100 sites on it so
> >it would be fine. I had remote desktop access to the box with full
> >admin access. I also had unlimited access to their shared mail server
> >(although they are frequently blackballed by SpamCop).
> >
> >With their shared hosting plan I did have access to cffile etc but
> >had to ask for it. No access to the admin.
> >
> >Michael
> >
> >
> >At 01:08 PM 11/16/2005, Munson, Jacob wrote:
> >>
>
>



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RE: CF Hosting

[Snake]

Why not have a look at www.forta.com for the reviews of hosts.
We do quite well on here, CFMx Hosting doesn't have a single bad review :-)
 

-Original Message-
From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 November 2005 18:09
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Hosting

For one, you don't have access to the CF Admin, but I didn't expect that.
Also, they may or may not make mappings for you.  Their support article says
no mappings, but in the forums an admin said to just email him if you need a
mapping created.  I haven't needed a mapping yet, so I'm not sure.  Also, I
have /heard/ that the Windows hosting has outages, but like I said, I use
Linux and I haven't had any outages yet.

I haven't found any tags/functions that wouldn't work, but my needs are
fairly simple. CFXs seem to work fine.  Your mileage may vary.

Here is a list of CF issues people run into on their servers:
http://www.xtreme-host.com/faq/index.php?catid=9

> -Original Message-
> From: Ali Awan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:28 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Hosting
> 
> Thanks Jacob,
> 
> Do you know if they disable any CF MX 7 features?  Like certain tags, 
> or other features?
> 
> Otherwise, this sounds like a great affordable way to get my site 
> going.







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RE: Cf forum

[Snake]

You do like calling me Spike don't you ray.

I had a look at your site that is using galleon, and there just didn't seem
to be much to it. Threads and posts and that is it.
Fusetalk for example is OTT and personally I think it is way to complicated
for most users, is not user friendly and is not very stable either.
I really like PHPBB, it does just about everything you need a forum to to,
or vBulletin.
CFBB below is not bad, but it seriously need a frameowrk behind it and some
brushing up as it's quite messy, but it's probably the closest I have seen
to the superior PHP forums.

--
Snake


-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 November 2005 17:41
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cf forum

Spike, can you tell me what features you would like to see included in
Galleon? While I don't think Galleon has as many features as other forums, I
don't think it is fair to say it is 'very basic'.

(Of course, as the author, I'm probalby being defensive.)

On 11/16/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ray's is very very basic.
> Try these
>
> http://www.1000ad.net/index.cfm?page=cfbb
>
> http://www.ipostmx.com/
>
> Snake
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 November 2005 01:27
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Cf forum
>
> Actually, I do not know how I missed this but there is an open source 
> forum on ray's site. I will check this out.
>
> mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 2:18 p.m.
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Cf forum
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I am needing to integrate a user forum into a client site. I have a 
> bit of time up my sleeve for this project so thought I might have a go 
> at building (or modifying an existing project) rather than using an 
> off the shelf product. To be honest, most apps available I have seen 
> would be too advanced for my clients needs.
>
> Question: could anyone point me in the right direction for tips/tricks 
> on how to go about building one of these suckers. I would be willing 
> to look at any open source projects also - obviously I can learn a lot 
> from this way.
>
> The forum will go alongside an ecommerce app, and share the sql server.
>
> mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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RE: DB connection question

[Dave Watts]

> Well if all of this true, it /should/ be possible to have a secured DB
> access system by using all of these:
> 1.  Non-standard access port

That simply requires an attacker to find out what ports are being used,
which is usually not difficult.

> 2.  Non-standard user names
> 3.  Enforced strong passwords that change periodically

Those would both help, certainly, but by themselves would probably not be
sufficient.

> 4.  Secured tunnel access (SSH, SSL, etc.)

That would secure access to the database to a sufficient degree for most
uses, as long as access can't be gained through brute-force attacks.

> 5.  Any other security practices I'm forgetting

One of those "other security practices" is, don't allow direct access to
your database.
 
> A few folks in this thread have mentioned 'big name' ISPs that allow
> remote DB administration, so it must not be considered a big security
> risk.  Either that, or money talks!  ;)

I would go with "money talks", actually.

There are a lot of reasons why they allow it, I'm sure. First of all, most
shared hosting customers are probably not that concerned with security. Most
probably don't have sensitive data. Most would rather be able to connect to
their database server. It's ok to value convenience over security, as long
as you're aware of the trade-off you're making.

Second, the security concerns of you and your ISP may differ somewhat. Your
ISP is probably more concerned that their servers will be rooted. You may be
more concerned about the integrity of your data. Granting remote access to
your database may not be a security issue for your ISP, even if it is for
you - this would depend on how the database server itself is configured.

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RE: CF Hosting

[Munson, Jacob]

> I had used Viux for a couple of years under their shared hosting plan 
> (up to 20 sites for a flat-rate of $75/mo) when I found a client who 
> paid me enough in maintenance that I could afford a co-located 
> solution and got my own box. Not the most robust of servers, it was 
> still mine alone and cost only $400 / mo. I could have splurged for a 
> better box but I figured I wouldn't have more than 100 sites on it so 
> it would be fine. I had remote desktop access to the box with full 
> admin access. I also had unlimited access to their shared mail server 
> (although they are frequently blackballed by SpamCop).

Another Windows only host.  Not my cup of tea.


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RE: Web Service Error

[Adrian Lynch]

For the archives, the firewall was stripping headers from the SOAP request,
stopping this fixed it.

Ade

-Original Message-
From: adrian lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 November 2005 12:22
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Web Service Error


Can anyone tell me what would cause an error with this code?


timeService = CreateObject("webservice",
"http://www.nanonull.com/TimeService/TimeService.asmx?WSDL";);
cityTime = timeService.getCityTime("London");





The error I get is:

"Could not perform web service invocation "getCityTime"."

"AxisFault
 faultCode: {http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/}Client
 faultSubcode:
 faultString: Unable to handle request without a valid action parameter.
Please supply a valid soap action."


I've found reference on the web that the SOAP request is incorrecctly
structured. Am I missing something? I don't want to build the SOAP package
myself.

Thanks.

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Re: CF Hosting

[Mik Muller]

Jordan,

At the moment I'm slowly moving my sites off to my new situation. So 
Viux will be gone soon.

And I get to keep the box. It'll get mailed to me once everything's off.

Mik


At 02:05 PM 11/16/2005, Jordan Michaels wrote:
>Mik Muller wrote:
>
> >I had used Viux for a couple of years under their shared hosting plan
> >(up to 20 sites for a flat-rate of $75/mo) when I found a client who
> >paid me enough in maintenance that I could afford a co-located
> >solution and got my own box. Not the most robust of servers, it was
> >still mine alone and cost only $400 / mo. I could have splurged for a
> >better box but I figured I wouldn't have more than 100 sites on it so
> >it would be fine. I had remote desktop access to the box with full
> >admin access. I also had unlimited access to their shared mail server
> >(although they are frequently blackballed by SpamCop).
> >
> >With their shared hosting plan I did have access to cffile etc but
> >had to ask for it. No access to the admin.
> >
> >Mik
> >
> >
>That sounds like something a bit more on the expensive side.
>
>You could get a managed, CFMX 7 server from Vivio and save over $100 a
>month. It would also include mirrored SATA hard drives and unmetered 1.5
>Mbps bandwidth (T1 speed).
>
>It sounds like you're pretty happy with your current provider, but you
>could be getting something better for a lot less money. The savings
>could really add up. Perhaps you could talk your current provider into
>doing price matching against us? That could help. Anyway, something to
>think about.
>
>--
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>Jordan Michaels
>Vivio Technologies
>http://www.viviotech.net/
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>
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RE: x.509 Encryption in ColdFusion

[Dave Watts]

>   I have been asked by a client to research x.509 encryption in 
> ColdFusion.

X.509 is not an encryption algorithm. It is a PKI key-management standard
that uses certificates.

>   To give a brief background, we are trying to setup a Single 
> Sign On Solution with a vendor. People from their site will come 
> to ours, and they will send us some encrypted data in a form post, 
> which we can decrypt the data and then sign them into our system 
> based on some encrypted data.
> 
>   Initial we spoke of using PGP decryption, which we set up 
> w/ the Digital Outlook custom tag and the PGP desktop software.  
> Unfortunately, the PGP software appears to disable ColdFusion's 
> WSConfig utility ( More details here: 
>  ), so we started 
> looking for alternatives.  The vendor suggested x.509 encryption.

In that case, why not use SSL/TLS with your x.509 certs, and send the
unencrypted data through the encrypted connection?

But if that's not an acceptable alternative, CFMX 7 supports many
industry-standard encryption algorithms with the Encrypt and Decrypt
functions - AES, Blowfish, DES, 3-DES.

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RE: listgetat problems....

[Dawson, Michael]

I was thinking the same thing.  The use of urlDecode() is clever and
does exactly what is required, but I think replace() would make the code
a bit easier to follow at first glance.

I just wonder if urlDecode() does a bunch of other processing that
wouldn't happen with the replace() function?

M!ke 

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: listgetat problems

Why not just replace your multi-char delimiter with a single char
delimiter, like a pipe | and then use your listgetat() with that list?

On 11/16/05, Qasim Rasheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can do something like this
>
> keyword 1 : #listgetat( urldecode(session.search_keywords), 1, " ")#
>
> HTH
>
> Qasim
>
> On 11/16/05, Protoculture <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > session.keyword: #session.search_keywords#  keyword 1 : 
> > #listgetat(session.search_keywords, 1, "%20")#  keyword 2 : 
> > #listgetat(session.search_keywords, 2, "%20")#
> >
> >
> > Any idea why the above code would output the following? Why isn't it
breaking the list at the '%20' isn't that the way it's supposed to work?
> >
> > c%2B%2B%20developer ( which is url encoded 'c++ developer' )
> >
> > session.keyword: c%2B%2B%20developer
> >
> > keyword 1 : c
> > keyword 2 : B
> >
> >
>
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Re: cfsetting max timeout?

[Mik Muller]

At 02:12 PM 11/16/2005, Ray Champagne wrote:
>Anyone know what the maximum timeout for the requesttimeout attribute of
>the cfsetting tag is?  We've got a file upload script running for a
>client, and need to up the timeout for larger (>15MB) file uploads.
>I've got it set for 15 minutes (900s) right now, I *thought* that was
>the max allowed.  Google isn't backing up my theory, but it isn't
>debunking it, either.
>
>Ray
>
>
>

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