Re: Application variables default timeout iin CFAdmin

2006-01-27 Thread James Holmes
It's up to you - if an application that hasn't been visited in three
years is important, then set it to 999 days. You may decide the memory
saving is worth a shorter timeout.

On 1/27/06, Baz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 In the CFAdmin, under 'Memory Variables', there's a default application
 variables timeout setting. I personally don't want my application variables
 to ever timeout, is it common practice to just put 999 days? Are there any
 issues to this? Is there any reason to want your app variables to timeout
 often?

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CFC Paths

2006-01-27 Thread Mark Flewellen
I am having trouble with cfc's on my website

example of cfc

cfinvoke component=rootdirectory.general.cfc.delete method=DeleteConfirm 
returnvariable=DeleteConfirm
cfinvokeargument name=record value=#url.quote_id#/
/cfinvoke

This works fine when testing the site locally on my webserver, as soon as I 
publish it to the production server, i get an error. The only way I can get it 
to work on the production server is to drop the rootdirectory of the front of 
the component path. ie.

cfinvoke component=general.cfc.delete method=DeleteConfirm 
returnvariable=DeleteConfirm
cfinvokeargument name=record value=#url.quote_id#/
/cfinvoke

But then this doesn't work locally for me.

What am I missing?

Mark

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Re: CFC Paths

2006-01-27 Thread John Beynon
it'll probably be related to where your CFCs are in relation to the /
mapping in ColdFusion differing between local/live environments.

In your local environment it would appear you are building a site in
the 'rootdirectory' folder which is in the webroot, usually mapped to
a / CFmapping. Your live environment is probably web mapped straight
into rootdirectory...so there reference to rootdirectory is invalid,

hope that helps,

john.

On 1/27/06, Mark Flewellen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am having trouble with cfc's on my website

 example of cfc

 cfinvoke component=rootdirectory.general.cfc.delete method=DeleteConfirm 
 returnvariable=DeleteConfirm
 cfinvokeargument name=record value=#url.quote_id#/
 /cfinvoke

 This works fine when testing the site locally on my webserver, as soon as I 
 publish it to the production server, i get an error. The only way I can get 
 it to work on the production server is to drop the rootdirectory of the front 
 of the component path. ie.

 cfinvoke component=general.cfc.delete method=DeleteConfirm 
 returnvariable=DeleteConfirm
 cfinvokeargument name=record value=#url.quote_id#/
 /cfinvoke

 But then this doesn't work locally for me.

 What am I missing?

 Mark

 

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Re: CFC Paths

2006-01-27 Thread Mark Flewellen
Could it have anything to do with the fact that the local url is something 
along the lines of 

http://localhost/mywebsite/cfc

remotely it is a domain name www.mywebsite.com/cfc

should I be setting up mappings for such a thing, a bit new to this so sorry if 
the questions are a bit vague?

Mark

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RE: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Erm...Surely there must be someone?!?!




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All,

How many of you are currently working and deploying on a large scale CF CMS
such as CommonSpot or Hot Banana?  

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Re: File upload using AJAX

2006-01-27 Thread simmyana a
i need to upload a file using ajax
please help me to achieve this..

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Re: CFC Paths

2006-01-27 Thread James Holmes
Yes, that is the issue. A mapping or custom tag path is necessary in this case.

On 1/27/06, Mark Flewellen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could it have anything to do with the fact that the local url is something 
 along the lines of

 http://localhost/mywebsite/cfc

 remotely it is a domain name www.mywebsite.com/cfc

 should I be setting up mappings for such a thing, a bit new to this so sorry 
 if the questions are a bit vague?

 Mark

 

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Re: Building Reports

2006-01-27 Thread Jim Wright
Eric...did you mean to paste in a link?  I don't see one.

On 1/26/06, Eric Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you know anything about Java, check out the Jakarta Apache project's POI
 classes.  Here's a link to a site set up by a
 CF developer with some code to help you set this up.

 Eric

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How to know if a DB is online

2006-01-27 Thread Michel Deloux
Hi all,

do you have suggestions about how to know if a external DB is online?

I'm using this simple script:

cfsetting requesttimeout=500
cftransaction action=begin
cftry
cfquery name=blabla datasource=#app.DSN#
select TOP 1 field from externalDB
where 1=1
/cfquery
cfcatch type=any
Error - DB offline
/cfcatch
/cftry
/cftransaction

Cheers

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Re: How to know if a DB is online

2006-01-27 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
That's pretty much what I do, except I use SELECT getDate() which is
more generic.  I'm also wondering why you're bothering with
cftransaction?

Pete

On 1/27/06, Michel Deloux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 do you have suggestions about how to know if a external DB is online?

 I'm using this simple script:

 cfsetting requesttimeout=500
 cftransaction action=begin
 cftry
 cfquery name=blabla datasource=#app.DSN#
 select TOP 1 field from externalDB
 where 1=1
 /cfquery
 cfcatch type=any
 Error - DB offline
 /cfcatch
 /cftry
 /cftransaction

 Cheers

 MD

 

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-27 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Troll.





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Mapping Folders

2006-01-27 Thread Mark Flewellen
Is there a way to map a folder apart from using the administration console, I 
notice blue dragon has a cfmapping tag, just wondering if there is anything 
comparable in CF.

mark

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Re: Mapping Folders

2006-01-27 Thread John Beynon
in CF7 you can use the admin API provided you have access to it and
the admin password,

john.

On 27/01/06, Mark Flewellen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a way to map a folder apart from using the administration console, I 
 notice blue dragon has a cfmapping tag, just wondering if there is anything 
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Re: CFC Paths

2006-01-27 Thread John Beynon
yes, in addition you could create a mapping on the live server named
the same as the folder in local and map it to the webroot and it
should work as expected (ie the same place as the existing / mapping
on live)

if you end up having multiple virtual servers on the same box you
might want to create a unique mapping for each site...so siteA would
have it's own mapping, 'SiteA' and you'd reference that in your CFCs
since you can only have unique names for mapping on a single cf
instance

jb.

On 27/01/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, that is the issue. A mapping or custom tag path is necessary in this 
 case.

 On 1/27/06, Mark Flewellen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Could it have anything to do with the fact that the local url is something 
  along the lines of
 
  http://localhost/mywebsite/cfc
 
  remotely it is a domain name www.mywebsite.com/cfc
 
  should I be setting up mappings for such a thing, a bit new to this so 
  sorry if the questions are a bit vague?
 
  Mark
 
 

 

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Re: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread John Beynon
what do you class as large scale? users? pages?


On 27/01/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Erm...Surely there must be someone?!?!




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 Sent: 26 January 2006 09:48
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 Subject: Who is using a large scale CMS?

 All,

 How many of you are currently working and deploying on a large scale CF CMS
 such as CommonSpot or Hot Banana?

 N


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Re: Mapping Folders

2006-01-27 Thread James Holmes
And in 6.1 there will be a factory to use (unsupported though it may be).

On 1/27/06, John Beynon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 in CF7 you can use the admin API provided you have access to it and
 the admin password,

 john.

 On 27/01/06, Mark Flewellen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is there a way to map a folder apart from using the administration console, 
  I notice blue dragon has a cfmapping tag, just wondering if there is 
  anything comparable in CF.

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Re: How to know if a DB is online

2006-01-27 Thread John Beynon
and that's not working?

the admin API should be able to verify a DSN for you - if not the
factory service can,

jb.

On 27/01/06, Michel Deloux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 do you have suggestions about how to know if a external DB is online?

 I'm using this simple script:

 cfsetting requesttimeout=500
 cftransaction action=begin
 cftry
 cfquery name=blabla datasource=#app.DSN#
 select TOP 1 field from externalDB
 where 1=1
 /cfquery
 cfcatch type=any
 Error - DB offline
 /cfcatch
 /cftry
 /cftransaction

 Cheers

 MD

 

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Re: How to know if a DB is online

2006-01-27 Thread Michel Deloux
Thanx Pete and John.

That script works fine for me. Looking for improvements.

Cheers

MD

2006/1/27, John Beynon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 and that's not working?

 the admin API should be able to verify a DSN for you - if not the
 factory service can,

 jb.

 On 27/01/06, Michel Deloux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  do you have suggestions about how to know if a external DB is online?
 
  I'm using this simple script:
 
  cfsetting requesttimeout=500
  cftransaction action=begin
  cftry
  cfquery name=blabla datasource=#app.DSN#
  select TOP 1 field from externalDB
  where 1=1
  /cfquery
  cfcatch type=any
  Error - DB offline
  /cfcatch
  /cftry
  /cftransaction
 
  Cheers
 
  MD
 
 

 

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Re: How to know if a DB is online

2006-01-27 Thread James Holmes
http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=685

On 1/27/06, Michel Deloux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanx Pete and John.

 That script works fine for me. Looking for improvements.

 Cheers

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RE: Page loading time

2006-01-27 Thread Ben Nadel
Barney,

I am trying to use cfc caching properly, but this is my first real
CFC-intensive project. I cache most anything that does not need to be
created  with each page call. But, for each page call, I do need to create
some things:

1. Environment CFC (contains info about the web and server - purely public
variables ex. Environment.Web.Root, Environment.Server.Directory). Very
light weight, but does do some calculations.
2. RequestFacade CFC
3. Page CFC (display component which extends either oneColumnPage or
TwoColumnPage which then extends AbstractPage - the multiple inheritence may
cause some overhead???)

But, then again, it might just be browser rendering also. If I take out my
javascript file link, the page loads noticeably faster. I am not sure what
to do about that. My JS file isn't even very large, nor does it do any
processing during page load. Maybe firefox is just slow to parse JS files.

I will keep trying to get the page load smaller.

...
Ben Nadel 
Web Developer
Nylon Technology
350 7th Ave.
Suite 1005
New York, NY 10001
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212.691.3477 fax
www.nylontechnology.com

Sanders: Lightspeed too slow?
Helmet: Yes we'll have to go right to ludacris speed.
-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 6:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Page loading time

You've already elimintated all the stuff in between CF and your browser as
potential causes, I assume?  I highly doubt CFCs are to blame for your
problem, though misuse of them (like anything else) could be it.  I believe
someone already mentioned disabling debugging, or at least the execution
times, but if not, make sure you do that. 
Also make sure you're cachign your instances appropriately, as instantiation
can be rather expensive in some cases.

cheers.
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Debug execution times doesn't add up

2006-01-27 Thread Mike Klostermeyer
I know I've seen this thread before, but I cannot find it on the archives.
In the debug, the TOTAL EXECUTION TIME doesn't equal the sum of the
individual template times in CF7.  Which one is correct (if any)?

Mike Klostermeyer
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RE: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread Eric J. Hoffman
We use Commonspot on several sites.   Don't know that our version of
large scale and what the clients think are large scale always match.  :)






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Subject: Re: Who is using a large scale CMS?

what do you class as large scale? users? pages?


On 27/01/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Erm...Surely there must be someone?!?!




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 All,

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RE: File upload using AJAX

2006-01-27 Thread Andy Matthews
Here's someone that does file upload with PHP and Ajax:
http://www.air4web.com/files/upload/

You can probably convert the PHP code to CF code.

!//--
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Hi,
 how to upload a file using ajax/iframe in cf?
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Still In The Works (OpenBiz)

2006-01-27 Thread Cutter (CF-Talk)
This morning I sent this out to the Nashville CFUG mailing list and 
thought it important to copy it to drop in here as well. --C--
-
By the way, didn't get the chance to mention this last night so I 
thought I'd bring it up here. Before I begin let me just say that I am 
not trying to start a flame war on a low traffic local cfug list, please 
read through the entire message and think about it's text before blindly 
responding.

For some reason there appears to be a growing need, within the CF 
community, to defend the validity of programming within CF. The 
uninformed/unitiated either a) don't know that ColdFusion exists, or b) 
think of it as a low-level tag-based scripting language with no power 
and a high price tag. Now, I don't know about ya'll, but I'd like to 
beat these people with their own arms for being dumber than a stump. 
But, since that's not an option and we all have to work to feed our 
families, many in the community are working towards giving CF 'validity'.

Now, not all of these people look at their contributions like this. Some 
of this are 'just trying to help out.' But the bottom line is (in the 
many discussions that are out there) that there aren't a ton of high 
level, enterprise marketable, applications out there written in CF. 
There are hundreds of little snippet programs for doing this and that. 
There are thousands of SOHO business applications written in CF 
2/3/4/5 un-modifiable, non-configurable spaghetti code. There ARE NOT 
many high end Open Source enterprise level applications written in 
ColdFusion.

So? That's the response I get a lot. But what are we, as CF developers,
competing with? How about the hundreds of thousands of open source 
applications written in C++, PHP, or Python, or even ASP (shudder). 
Applications that companies download, install, and work with every day. 
With such a great development community, why don't we have more/better 
to offer for ColdFusion? Don't get me wrong, I love and applaud the 
efforts of all of the framework developers we have (Hal, Ben, S. Isaac, 
Rob, et. al.) and appreciate those who crank it out just for our 
benefit, learning and enjoyment (thanks Ray), but CF needs some 
well-designed, well-coded, well-documented Open Source programs to
offer to the world. Something that tells people We're serious about 
what we do. We're good at it, and only work with the best tools 
available. That's ColdFusion.

So, having said all of that, and having stated my opinion for all to 
poke, prod, and plunder, I finally come down to my point and request. 
Not long ago a few people spoke out on the CF-Talk (houseoffusion.com) 
list for developing an Open Source E-Commerce application. For anyone 
who's really looked out there for a good CF cart, you may have seen that 
a) none are free, b) there aren't really that many, and c) few are worth 
a damn. Some of the higher priced ones are rather nice, but that doesn't 
mean that they are very configurable (by John Doe, shop owner and all 
around nice, non-programming guy), nor does that mean they are stable 
and well written (some haven't had their core business logic updated
since FB 3).

So, now there is an Open Source project on SourceForge.net for 
openSource Business Services (keyword openbizservices). The project 
started just before the holidays, so there hasn't been a lot of activity 
yet. I've only seen posts from three people in the forums so far (one of 
'em being me). The overall scope of the project is 'in process' and is 
quickly taking shape. This morning I received an initial Design Document 
from Andy and it is fantastic for a first draft. This project, though 
still being scoped, is to be very full featured, well formed and 
documented, as well as extensible. Part of the core process is to design
component objects that can be easily extensible for platform and db
independence, that can be used in almost any framework or within a basic 
format we include.

But, we need help. There are very few of us in this right now, giving 
only a few hours a week. The project will be broken down into many small 
sub-projects that will complete/compliment the overall design, so the 
more help the faster and more full-featured it will be. So, anyone 
interested in helping out (even just an hour or two a week) should 
please go over to SourceForge.net and sign up for the lists. We, and 
eventually the community at large, will greatly appreciate it.

Steve 'Cutter' Blades

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Re: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread Howard Fore
I think Voice of America is using CommonSpot (ask someone from FigLeaf), and
I think PGA.com uses it as well.

On 1/27/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Erm...Surely there must be someone?!?!




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 All,

 How many of you are currently working and deploying on a large scale CF
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 such as CommonSpot or Hot Banana?

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Flash Forms vs XForms

2006-01-27 Thread Anne Girardeau
What have your experiences been with the new flash form and xml form 
capabilities in CFMX 7. Which would you recommend using the most and why?  Does 
it make sense to use cfforms at all or continue going down the old fashioned 
route of dynamically enhancing standard html forms?  Let me know your thoughts.

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Re: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread David McCan
There is also the open source FarCry CMS:

http://farcry.daemon.com.au/

David


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RE: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Indeed, there is, but it cannot compete with the likes of CommonSpot when it
comes to features out of the box - not to say that it isn't a good CMS - I
know it is, but its very very light on features.



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There is also the open source FarCry CMS:

http://farcry.daemon.com.au/

David


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mySQL 4.1 MX7

2006-01-27 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
I'm trying to set up a DSN for a mySQL database in MX7 for the first
time.  I am running mySQL 4.1.6; I've created a schema and a user and
assigned appropriate priviledges.  When I go into CF Administrator to
set up a DSN, the mySQL driver option is 3.x, which I selected and
filled in the rest of the info, yet when I try to create the DSN I get
a Communication failure during handshake. Is there a server running
on localhost:3306? error message...and, yes, the DB is running, and
it's on 3306.  I am able to create an ODBC DSN for this connection in
WinXP's ODBC applet, so I know things are working.

Is this a driver issue within the administrator?  If so, is it
possible to install updated drivers in the administrator that will
support mySQL 4.1 (or, better yet, 5)?  I'd rather not have to rely on
the ODBC connection, but it will work in the meantime...

Thanks,

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Re: mySQL 4.1 MX7

2006-01-27 Thread Ryan Guill
http://www.ryanguill.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=C7BE3545-40CA-6D1C-8A6FDADE72B840CC

:)

On 1/27/06, Pete Ruckelshaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm trying to set up a DSN for a mySQL database in MX7 for the first
 time.  I am running mySQL 4.1.6; I've created a schema and a user and
 assigned appropriate priviledges.  When I go into CF Administrator to
 set up a DSN, the mySQL driver option is 3.x, which I selected and
 filled in the rest of the info, yet when I try to create the DSN I get
 a Communication failure during handshake. Is there a server running
 on localhost:3306? error message...and, yes, the DB is running, and
 it's on 3306.  I am able to create an ODBC DSN for this connection in
 WinXP's ODBC applet, so I know things are working.

 Is this a driver issue within the administrator?  If so, is it
 possible to install updated drivers in the administrator that will
 support mySQL 4.1 (or, better yet, 5)?  I'd rather not have to rely on
 the ODBC connection, but it will work in the meantime...

 Thanks,

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RE: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread kola.oyedeji
Interesting you say that Neil, we use Commonspot for a number of sites but
have recently started looking at other solutions such as farcry, features on
cms systems I think is are rarely a problem, the deciding factors for us is
usability/flexibility and cost.

Kola

 -Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Indeed, there is, but it cannot compete with the likes of CommonSpot when
it
 comes to features out of the box - not to say that it isn't a good CMS - I
 know it is, but its very very light on features.
 
 
 
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 Sent: 27 January 2006 14:46
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Who is using a large scale CMS?
 
 There is also the open source FarCry CMS:
 
 http://farcry.daemon.com.au/
 
 David
 
 
 All,
 
 How many of you are currently working and deploying on a large scale CF
CMS
 such as CommonSpot or Hot Banana?
 
 N
 
 
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OT: Need Site Reviewers Please

2006-01-27 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
I'm teaching Web Scripting  Authoring and have about 10 sites that
need reviewing folks that are in the web industry.   Last time I sent
out a word doc via email and sincerely appreciate the time everyone
took to review the sites.

This time I have an easier method that will take less time for anyone
willing to fill out a small survey on the sites that have been
submitted.  I have built a small application that wraps the student
site, survey and assignment description in one page.  In addition the
application remmebers the last site you filled out a survey on and
takes you to the next site, so if you don't have time to go through
all the sites you can come back later.

If you're interested in participating simply go to
http://chumphrey.guardian-web.com/index.cfm and sign in using your
email address and putting in your name (if you feel like it).  All
surveys are reported to the students confidentially and names are
optional.  Please drop me an email and let me know so I can have an 
idea of a participation count.

The current asignment is to build a static business website.  These
students are multimedia students so they've been spending a lot of
time working with flash, director, 3D Studio max but not much with
HTML.  The sites being presented with this assignment have been built
using Notepad to hammer in HTML tag concepts.  They were told that an
element of wow would be incorperated into the surveys.  I know that
there are a few that are text only... and their surveys need to
reflect the fact that they did not take any graphics into account.

I'll be closing out this assignment's surveys on Thursday, February 2
by 1 or 2 pm.  There are more assignments coming soon!

Thanks for your time!
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RE: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread Dave Watts
 I think Voice of America is using CommonSpot (ask someone 
 from FigLeaf)

Yes, this is correct.

http://www.figleaf.com/Showcase/CaseStudies/voa.cfm
http://www.voanews.com/

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Re: Page loading time

2006-01-27 Thread Barney Boisvert
That all sounds very reasonable to me.  I'd be willing to bet that
your JS is the culprit, even if you don't see any obvious cause.  FF
deals with JS very effectively, in my experience, so I doubt it's
that.  Just start commenting out chunks of the JS file until you get
the noticeable speed-up, and then you can maybe figure out what needs
to change to make it faster all around.

cheers,
barneyb

On 1/27/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Barney,

 I am trying to use cfc caching properly, but this is my first real
 CFC-intensive project. I cache most anything that does not need to be
 created  with each page call. But, for each page call, I do need to create
 some things:

 1. Environment CFC (contains info about the web and server - purely public
 variables ex. Environment.Web.Root, Environment.Server.Directory). Very
 light weight, but does do some calculations.
 2. RequestFacade CFC
 3. Page CFC (display component which extends either oneColumnPage or
 TwoColumnPage which then extends AbstractPage - the multiple inheritence may
 cause some overhead???)

 But, then again, it might just be browser rendering also. If I take out my
 javascript file link, the page loads noticeably faster. I am not sure what
 to do about that. My JS file isn't even very large, nor does it do any
 processing during page load. Maybe firefox is just slow to parse JS files.

 I will keep trying to get the page load smaller.

 ...
 Ben Nadel

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RE: avoiding direct SQL command injection

2006-01-27 Thread Dave Watts
 Anyway, I don't wanna get this working, I wanted to see if 
 e.g. a cfqueryparam with type=cf_sql_varchar avoids this from 
 execution or not.

As Mr. Holmes pointed out, CFQUERYPARAM creates a prepared statement
containing bound parameters. This means that pieces of data are explicitly
identified as being data, instead of SQL commands. So, it doesn't matter
what's in the data; the database will know it's not executable code.

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RE: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Hey Kola,

So in your opinion what is your reason for going away from CommonSpot? We
are looking at quite a few and not all CF based!

N



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Sent: 27 January 2006 16:25
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Who is using a large scale CMS?

Interesting you say that Neil, we use Commonspot for a number of sites but
have recently started looking at other solutions such as farcry, features on
cms systems I think is are rarely a problem, the deciding factors for us is
usability/flexibility and cost.

Kola

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 27 January 2006 15:48
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Who is using a large scale CMS?
 
 Indeed, there is, but it cannot compete with the likes of CommonSpot when
it
 comes to features out of the box - not to say that it isn't a good CMS - I
 know it is, but its very very light on features.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David McCan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 27 January 2006 14:46
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Who is using a large scale CMS?
 
 There is also the open source FarCry CMS:
 
 http://farcry.daemon.com.au/
 
 David
 
 
 All,
 
 How many of you are currently working and deploying on a large scale CF
CMS
 such as CommonSpot or Hot Banana?
 
 N
 
 
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Re: Tiobe programming languages ranking

2006-01-27 Thread Stephen Lapointe
Here's some ammunition: http://www.tiobe.com/index.htm?tiobe_index

That link ranks the most used programming languages in the world. Notice the
9 green arrows next to CF! Moven' on up...

Cheers,
Baz

That Tiobe page explains the rankings as follows: The ratings are based on the 
world-wide availability of skilled engineers, courses and third party vendors. 
The popular search engines Google, MSN, and Yahoo! are used to calculate the 
ratings. Observe that the TPC index is not about the best programming language 
or the language in which most lines of code have been written.

In my view, the availability of skilled engineers, courses, and third-party 
vendors may say more about how complicated (or old) a language is than about 
its strategic value or market penetration. Ruby doesn't show up at all on this 
list. Why? Partly because it's a newer language. But probably also because the 
elegance of the Ruby on Rails framework renders courses and third-party vendors 
less important. The same could be said for CFML.

So while there is certainly some value in the Tiobe ranking, for most 
organizations I'm not sure it's that useful in evaluating the strategic 
advantages of a web programming solution. A strong case can be made for CFML 
though. One such case I came across recently:
http://www.hotbanana.com/products/hot-banana-technology/why-coldfusion-mx/

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Re: SOT: Google sitemaps

2006-01-27 Thread Roger Benningfield
Has anyone used these?

Ray: All JournURL-powered blogs produce sitemaps in three different flavors: 
RSS, text, and OPML. I haven't noticed Ray Camden's problem with the .cfm 
extension, but that could be because the sitemap format is controlled by a 
query-string parameter.

I've noticed some improvement in Google traffic since registering sitemaps for 
a couple of my personal blogs. I can't give the sitemaps all the credit, 
though, 'cause you never know what other, concurrent changes might have ad an 
impact as well.

--
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JournURL
http://admin.support.journurl.com/ (main blog)
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Re: SOT: Google sitemaps

2006-01-27 Thread Dave Carabetta
On 1/27/06, Roger Benningfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone used these?

 Ray: All JournURL-powered blogs produce sitemaps in three different flavors: 
 RSS, text, and OPML. I haven't noticed Ray Camden's problem with the .cfm 
 extension, but that could be because the sitemap format is controlled by a 
 query-string parameter.

 I've noticed some improvement in Google traffic since registering sitemaps 
 for a couple of my personal blogs. I can't give the sitemaps all the credit, 
 though, 'cause you never know what other, concurrent changes might have ad an 
 impact as well.


Pete Freitag had this blog entry a few month back, which is something
to keep in mind:

http://www.petefreitag.com/item/415.cfm

Regards,
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RE: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread Kevin Graeme
Dave,

I know Fig Leaf works a lot with CommonSpot. Do you consider it a large
scale CMS?

It's a vague term, so the interpretation of it is going to vary widely. When
I think of large scale, what comes to mind is Documentum or Interwoven or
OracleECM.

---
Kevin Graeme
Cooperative Extension Technology Services
University of Wisconsin-Extension
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:26 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Who is using a large scale CMS?
 
  I think Voice of America is using CommonSpot (ask someone from 
  FigLeaf)
 
 Yes, this is correct.
 
 http://www.figleaf.com/Showcase/CaseStudies/voa.cfm
 http://www.voanews.com/
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 
 Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber 
 vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in 
 Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern 
 Virginia, or on-site at your location.
 Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
 
 
 

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RE: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread Snake
I consider it to be an expensive CMS :-) 

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 January 2006 17:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Who is using a large scale CMS?

Dave,

I know Fig Leaf works a lot with CommonSpot. Do you consider it a large
scale CMS?

It's a vague term, so the interpretation of it is going to vary widely. When
I think of large scale, what comes to mind is Documentum or Interwoven or
OracleECM.

---
Kevin Graeme
Cooperative Extension Technology Services University of Wisconsin-Extension
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:26 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Who is using a large scale CMS?
 
  I think Voice of America is using CommonSpot (ask someone from
  FigLeaf)
 
 Yes, this is correct.
 
 http://www.figleaf.com/Showcase/CaseStudies/voa.cfm
 http://www.voanews.com/
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 
 Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized 
 instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, 
 Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
 Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
 
 
 



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Re: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread smith
We run a bespoke CMS based on CF.  6.5 million content objects (I think we 
generate around 50K objects per day these days), around 150-200 users 
(generally about 100 simultaneous users).  We've been developing it for about 9 
years now since CF2.0  

We use Oracle as the database system, content is delivered to the delivery 
system as XML (generally fragements, the delivery system assembles the 
fragments into xml pages where are xslt transformed into html).  The delivery 
system is not CF, but instead, a custom version of Apache.


All,

How many of you are currently working and deploying on a large scale CF CMS
such as CommonSpot or Hot Banana?  

N

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Geting a list of query column names unsorted.

2006-01-27 Thread Oleg Gunkin
'query_name.columnlist' returns a sorted list of column names, but I really 
need it to be unsorted because for the query 'select c, a, b from t' I need 
'c,a,b' list, NOT 'a,b,c'. How do I get an unsorted list of columns?

--
Oleg Gunkin
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (604) 666-9392
Emerging Technologies / Pacific Web Services
Information Technology Services
Public Works and Government Services Canada (Pacific)

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RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.

2006-01-27 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: Oleg Gunkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:53 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.
 
 'query_name.columnlist' returns a sorted list of column names, but I
 really need it to be unsorted because for the query 'select c, a, b from
 t' I need 'c,a,b' list, NOT 'a,b,c'. How do I get an unsorted list of
 columns?

Which version of CF are you using?  I coulda swore than MX+ did return the
columnnames in query order.

Jim Davis



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Re: Remove white space

2006-01-27 Thread Matt Robertson
What Larry said.  HTMLCompressFormat is the bomb.  You can set it to a 
slightly less aggressive setting to save single carriage returns.

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CFINDEXing .pdf files not working?

2006-01-27 Thread JoeT
I am using ColdFusion 4.0 (don't ask) and am trying
to create a Verity collection of PDF and Word files.
After building the index, I am able to text-search
the Word documents (which are in the same folders as
the PDF's) but am unable to text-search PDF files.  
(This was working a week ago but has now stopped 
working.)

Here is the code that builds the index:

CFSET IndexCollection  = TrusteeDocuments
CFSET IndexDirectory   = D:\ABC\TrusteeIntranet\Documents
CFSET IndexRecurse = YES
CFSET IndexExtensions  = .htm, .html, .txt, *., .pdf, .doc, .xls, .ppt
CFSET IndexLanguage= english

CFINDEX 
collection=#IndexCollection# 
action=REFRESH
type=PATH
key=#IndexDirectory#\
extensions=#IndexExtensions#
recurse=#IndexRecurse#
language=#IndexLanguage#
urlPath=#application.TrusteeIntranetDocURL#

Since I don't believe I altered any of the above code
recently, I am beginning to wonder if the documents 
are incompatible for some reason.  Is it possible
that this old version of ColdFusion/Verity can't index
PDF files created with recent versions of Acrobat?

I am at my wits end.  Any suggestions would be much
appreciated.

Thanks
Joe Tartaglia
High Caliber Solutions

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-27 Thread Nathan Strutz
Oh that's not nice at all. Andy's no troll!

Asked by a lesser-known CFer, and in a more cynical or doomed tone,
you could get away with saying that, but since neither are true, your
message is more of a troll than the original.

Andy, I hope you've got enough ammo. I know what it's like to work in
an office where CF is constantly under attack and everything competing
is constantly under review. CF's cool new features and RAD development
consistently keep it head and shoulders above everything else for me.
HTH.

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/



On 1/27/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Troll.





 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Thu Jan 26 10:54:25 2006
 Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam

 I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over
 macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion
 will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion
 but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion.
 I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this
 company to stop there fears.




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RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.

2006-01-27 Thread Adrian Lynch
This'll do it:

cfset obj = CreateObject(JAVA, coldfusion.server.ServiceFactory)

cfquery name=q datasource=myDS
SELECT * FROM Event
/cfquery

cfdump var=#q.getMetaData().getColumnLabels()#

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 January 2006 18:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.


 -Original Message-
 From: Oleg Gunkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:53 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.

 'query_name.columnlist' returns a sorted list of column names, but I
 really need it to be unsorted because for the query 'select c, a, b from
 t' I need 'c,a,b' list, NOT 'a,b,c'. How do I get an unsorted list of
 columns?

Which version of CF are you using?  I coulda swore than MX+ did return the
columnnames in query order.

Jim Davis





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Re: Tiobe programming languages ranking

2006-01-27 Thread Lee
Scroll down. Ruby is 22nd.

Lee


On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:46:45 -0400
  Stephen Lapointe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's some ammunition: 
http://www.tiobe.com/index.htm?tiobe_index

That link ranks the most used programming languages in 
the world. Notice the
9 green arrows next to CF! Moven' on up...

Cheers,
Baz
 
 That Tiobe page explains the rankings as follows: The 
ratings are based on the world-wide availability of 
skilled engineers, courses and third party vendors. The 
popular search engines Google, MSN, and Yahoo! are used 
to calculate the ratings. Observe that the TPC index is 
not about the best programming language or the language 
in which most lines of code have been written.
 
 In my view, the availability of skilled engineers, 
courses, and third-party vendors may say more about how 
complicated (or old) a language is than about its 
strategic value or market penetration. Ruby doesn't show 
up at all on this list. Why? Partly because it's a newer 
language. But probably also because the elegance of the 
Ruby on Rails framework renders courses and third-party 
vendors less important. The same could be said for CFML.
 
 So while there is certainly some value in the Tiobe 
ranking, for most organizations I'm not sure it's that 
useful in evaluating the strategic advantages of a web 
programming solution. A strong case can be made for CFML 
though. One such case I came across recently:
 http://www.hotbanana.com/products/hot-banana-technology/why-coldfusion-mx/
 
 

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RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.

2006-01-27 Thread Snake
As long as your not on a shared host, or might get into trouble for using
the serviceFactory.
 

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 January 2006 18:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.

This'll do it:

cfset obj = CreateObject(JAVA, coldfusion.server.ServiceFactory)

cfquery name=q datasource=myDS
SELECT * FROM Event
/cfquery

cfdump var=#q.getMetaData().getColumnLabels()#

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 January 2006 18:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.


 -Original Message-
 From: Oleg Gunkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:53 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.

 'query_name.columnlist' returns a sorted list of column names, but I 
 really need it to be unsorted because for the query 'select c, a, b 
 from t' I need 'c,a,b' list, NOT 'a,b,c'. How do I get an unsorted 
 list of columns?

Which version of CF are you using?  I coulda swore than MX+ did return the
columnnames in query order.

Jim Davis







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RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.

2006-01-27 Thread Adrian Lynch
Opps, you don't need the SF for that, I didn't mean to paste that from the
code.

cfquery name=q datasource=myDS
SELECT * FROM Event
/cfquery

cfdump var=#q.getMetaData().getColumnLabels()#

Will work. Not sure what restrictions could cause it to fail though, so use
with caution/testing.

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 January 2006 18:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.


As long as your not on a shared host, or might get into trouble for using
the serviceFactory.


-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 January 2006 18:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.

This'll do it:

cfset obj = CreateObject(JAVA, coldfusion.server.ServiceFactory)

cfquery name=q datasource=myDS
SELECT * FROM Event
/cfquery

cfdump var=#q.getMetaData().getColumnLabels()#

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 January 2006 18:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.


 -Original Message-
 From: Oleg Gunkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:53 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.

 'query_name.columnlist' returns a sorted list of column names, but I
 really need it to be unsorted because for the query 'select c, a, b
 from t' I need 'c,a,b' list, NOT 'a,b,c'. How do I get an unsorted
 list of columns?

Which version of CF are you using?  I coulda swore than MX+ did return the
columnnames in query order.

Jim Davis


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Re: How to know if a DB is online

2006-01-27 Thread Michel Deloux
Thnx James. Great Ben Forta!!

Cheers

MD

2006/1/27, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=685

 On 1/27/06, Michel Deloux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanx Pete and John.
 
  That script works fine for me. Looking for improvements.
 
  Cheers

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 CFAJAX docs and other useful articles:
 http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/

 

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Question regarding sql updates with datefields

2006-01-27 Thread Charlie Hanlon
I was curious as to whether the following code is the best way to handle 
updating datetime fields (SQL 2000).  I use the isdate() function to verify 
that my variable is indeed a date, and then update the db field with the 
CreateODBCDate() function..is there another way I should be doing this??

thanks in advance for any advice or confirmation.

cfquery name=myQuery datasource=myDSN
UPDATE myTable
SET myField = cfqueryparam value=#left(someValue,250)# 
cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR
cfif isdate(trim(attributes.publishdate))
   , publishdate = #CreateODBCDate(attributes.publishdate)#
   /cfif
   cfif isdate(trim(attributes.unpublishdate))
   , unpublishdate = #CreateODBCDate(attributes.unpublishdate)#
   /cfif
 WHERE myPKid = cfqueryparam value=#val(id)# cfsqltype=CF_SQL_INTEGER
/cfquery


charlie hanlon
food service enablers, inc.




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overflow attack return-to-libc when starting CFMX 7

2006-01-27 Thread Chris Norloff
According to Entercept, when we try to start CFMX 7 there's a buffer overflow. 
Entercept stops CFMX from starting, saying this is a hack attempt.

We aren't having this issue on another seemingly identical machine.

Anybody have an ideas on this?

thanks,
Chris Norloff

CFMX 7.0.1 (with CHF1, on Solaris 9, Apache) running as userid=cfmxuser, which 
is what it was installed to run as.

Event Description
An attempt to invoke system call [value not available] through a buffer 
overflow in cfmx7 (/opt/coldfusionmx7/runtime/bin/cfmx7) running with the 
privileges of user cfmxuser on the system with Agent [machinename]was detected. 
This attack utilizes the return-to-libc technique.
This operation was successful. It would have been prevented if the Agent IPS 
module were set to Protect Mode.

General Signature Description:
This event indicates that an unspecified buffer overflow attack was attempted 
against a component of the operating system or an application using the 
return-to-libc technique.



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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-27 Thread Howard Fore
Advise them not to build a company strategy on rumors and press releases?

On 1/26/06, Andy Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over
 macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion
 will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion
 but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion.
 I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this
 company to stop there fears.



--
Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The less you know, the more you believe. - U2, Last Night On Earth


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Re: Tiobe programming languages ranking

2006-01-27 Thread Stephen Lapointe
Scroll down. Ruby is 22nd.

Lee

Yes, you're right. I was referring to the main list of the top 20 languages for 
which they provide their full scoring. Maybe the more basic point is that this 
ranking has quite a mix of languages used for various purposes. It has Pascal 
ranked higher than ColdFusion, though there probably aren't too many 
Pascal-powered web applications around. 

I don't know how influential the Tiobe ranking is, but I do think it's useful 
to consider how best to make the case for CFML. And I appreciate the original 
post about the Tiobe ranking so I could become aware of it.

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OT about CSS

2006-01-27 Thread Claude Schneegans
I know this list is about CF, but I cannot find any populated group 
about CSS,
and well... good developers are here anyway ;-)

My question is: is it specified somewhere in the docs that pseudo styles 
for links
should be given in any specific order, and why?
In the code below, the link in the blue paragraph becomes red when the 
mouse passes over,
but the A:hover spec is simply ignored if it is not the last one.

html
head
titleUntitled/title
STYLE
P.blue {color:blue}
P.blue A:link {color:green}
P.blue A:visited {color:green}
P.blue A:hover {color:red}
/STYLE
/head

body
PParagraph with a A HREF=#link/A/P
P CLASS=blueBlue Paragraph with a A HREF=#link/A/P
/body
/html


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RE: Tiobe programming languages ranking

2006-01-27 Thread Richard Colman
I notice that LISP is rated ahead of CF ... When was the last time you came
across a Lisp application ... ??? 

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Lapointe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 11:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Tiobe programming languages ranking

Scroll down. Ruby is 22nd.

Lee

Yes, you're right. I was referring to the main list of the top 20 languages
for which they provide their full scoring. Maybe the more basic point is
that this ranking has quite a mix of languages used for various purposes. It
has Pascal ranked higher than ColdFusion, though there probably aren't too
many Pascal-powered web applications around. 

I don't know how influential the Tiobe ranking is, but I do think it's
useful to consider how best to make the case for CFML. And I appreciate the
original post about the Tiobe ranking so I could become aware of it.



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RE: OT about CSS

2006-01-27 Thread Ian Skinner
The generally recommended order is:

LoVe HAte

Link
Visited
Hover
Active

I did receive an explanation for this order, but I don't recall all the details 
at the moment.

A good CSS list is located at: http://www.css-discuss.org/



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Re: OT about CSS

2006-01-27 Thread Claude Schneegans
 According to http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_pseudo_classes.asp

Good link, thanks.
I still don't know why, but at least I know it is the way it is suposed 
to be ;-)

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Re: OT about CSS

2006-01-27 Thread Greg Luce
css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This list is pretty strong.


On 1/27/06, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The generally recommended order is:

 LoVe HAte

 Link
 Visited
 Hover
 Active

 I did receive an explanation for this order, but I don't recall all the
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 A good CSS list is located at: http://www.css-discuss.org/



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RE: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread Dave Watts
 I know Fig Leaf works a lot with CommonSpot. Do you consider 
 it a large scale CMS?

Well, we're certainly implementing it successfully in some large-scale
environments. I think that its sweet spot is probably a little lower,
though. As enterprise CMSs go, it's not that expensive.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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Alternative Oracle JDBC Driver For Standard Edition

2006-01-27 Thread Lonny Eckert
We looking for a work around for using Oracle Thin JDBC driver with
Coldfusion MX7 Standard. There is a documented problem with using
REFCURSORS.

However, the Oracle driver with Coldfusion MX7 Enterprise does not have
this problem nor does DataDirects Oracle JDBC driver. The only problem
with these solution is $$$ and we're try to develope a website for a
charity organization so have a limited budget.


Lonny Eckert 
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cffunction with infinite number of parameters

2006-01-27 Thread Oleg Gunkin
How do I make a function with unlimited number of parameters, and how do I 
access these parameters?

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RE: cffunction with infinite number of parameters

2006-01-27 Thread Mike Klostermeyer
Make the input argument of type 'struct'.  Within the function you can then
loop over it via the StructKeyList() function.

Mike

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How do I make a function with unlimited number of parameters, and how do I
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Re: cffunction with infinite number of parameters

2006-01-27 Thread Ken Ferguson
cfargument type=struct name=argStruct

then you can just access arguments.argStruct.userName or whatever...

--Ferg


Oleg Gunkin wrote:
 How do I make a function with unlimited number of parameters, and how do I 
 access these parameters?

 

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Re: Alternative Oracle JDBC Driver For Standard Edition

2006-01-27 Thread Nathan Strutz
Did you scour sourceforge.net for JDBC drivers? I'm sure there's at
least one for Oracle.

You could always go ODBC... but then that kinda hurts the performance
and scalability, no doubt the reason you went with Oracle in the first
place.

Speaking of limited budgets, could you go with SQL Server or MySql?
Both are multitudes cheaper than Oracle, and both fully supported by
CF Standard ed. Though, it sounds like you're already made a deep
Oracle db investment.

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/

On 1/27/06, Lonny Eckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We looking for a work around for using Oracle Thin JDBC driver with
 Coldfusion MX7 Standard. There is a documented problem with using
 REFCURSORS.

 However, the Oracle driver with Coldfusion MX7 Enterprise does not have
 this problem nor does DataDirects Oracle JDBC driver. The only problem
 with these solution is $$$ and we're try to develope a website for a
 charity organization so have a limited budget.


 Lonny Eckert
 Mi Services Group, Inc.

 

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Re: OT about CSS

2006-01-27 Thread Charlie Hanlon
According to http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_pseudo_classes.asp,

Note: a:hover MUST come after a:link and a:visited in the CSS definition in 
order to be effective!!

Note: a:active MUST come after a:hover in the CSS definition in order to be 
effective!!

Note: Pseudo-class names are not case-sensitive.

here is the example they provide:

a:link {color: #FF} /* unvisited link */
a:visited {color: #00FF00}  /* visited link */
a:hover {color: #FF00FF}   /* mouse over link */
a:active {color: #FF}   /* selected link */



hth

charlie hanlon


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From: Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:28 PM
Subject: OT about CSS


I know this list is about CF, but I cannot find any populated group
 about CSS,
 and well... good developers are here anyway ;-)

 My question is: is it specified somewhere in the docs that pseudo styles
 for links
 should be given in any specific order, and why?
 In the code below, the link in the blue paragraph becomes red when the
 mouse passes over,
 but the A:hover spec is simply ignored if it is not the last one.

 html
 head
titleUntitled/title
 STYLE
 P.blue {color:blue}
 P.blue A:link {color:green}
 P.blue A:visited {color:green}
 P.blue A:hover {color:red}
 /STYLE
 /head

 body
 PParagraph with a A HREF=#link/A/P
 P CLASS=blueBlue Paragraph with a A HREF=#link/A/P
 /body
 /html


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jdbc for mysql showing all field lengths at 655355

2006-01-27 Thread Stan Winchester
Is there a better driver to use for MySQL than the com.mysql.jdbc.Driver?
I find in all my dsn RDS shows the field length for all fields at 655355. It
does not matter if it is an int, varchar, datetime, or whatever all lengths
are shown as 655355. This problem has been for all versions of CF.

 

Here are my connection settings:

 

jdbc:mysql://[domain name]:3306/[database name]

com.mysql.jdbc.Driver

 

Thank you,

Aftershock Web Design, Inc.

by: Stan Winchester

President/Developer

http://www.aftershockweb.com/   

 




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Encrypt Decrypt

2006-01-27 Thread Stephens, Larry V
I'm using a simple encrypt statement to store info:

#Encrypt(SESSION.Customer.xxx, GetX.Item)#',

(this is from my INSERT statement) GetX.Item is the key loaded from a
table.

(I don't profess to be an expert in encryption (obviously) but, other
than being a little obtuse in the code, I don't know how to hide the key
any better on a server I don't control. I'm certainly open to
suggestion.)

Hiding the key aside, my decryption routine looks like (I'm moving it to
another table that is secure):

FieldX = '#Decrypt(FieldSaved, GetX.Item)#',


where aaa is the data retrieved from the table and GetX.Item is the same
key.

And it works, (e.g., decrypting 0Z[ STK6_,;)*!I+!/  )until the
encrypted data looks like

3JG$P5[0];!/QM#!O

So, I played with it a bit and it became obvious that the problem is the
# imbedded in the encrypted data.

What now? I can't escape it (##) because that throws an error, too.

To illustrate what seems to be happening:


!--- this works ---
cfset x=Encrypt(730072022000SerNum,7xxT533zrt3d9in)
cfoutput
#x#   !--- this will be: 2:GR4G5_,3++Q]#9:N+?)N4  ---
br /#Decrypt(x,7xxT533zrt3d9in)#

!--- run routine then uncomment next line and run again ---
!---br /#Decrypt(2:GR4G5_,3++Q]#9:N+?)N4
,7xxT533zrt3d9in)#---
/cfoutput


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Re: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.

2006-01-27 Thread Phyo Pine
I am interested in the solution too. I was having the same trouble when I was 
using cfdump var=#queryname# as well. So the work-around I did was instead 
of
SELECT c,a,b FROM someTable, I used SELECT c as 1c, a as 2a, b as 3b FROM 
someTable.

Hope this helps...

Regards,

Phyo Pine
Information Systems Specialist
DMV - ODOT




 'query_name.columnlist' returns a sorted list of column names, but I 
 really need it to be unsorted because for the query 'select c, a, b 
 from t' I need 'c,a,b' list, NOT 'a,b,c'. How do I get an unsorted 
 list of columns?
 
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Interacting w/ skype

2006-01-27 Thread Tim Do
Hi,
 
Has anyone interacted with skype using their new api to a cf
application?  I was asked by a client if this was possible.  I would
like to log basic user profile like name, address, phone # etc.. I would
like to be able to log this info somehow.  Also, would it be possible to
use skype inside a cf app?  Make a call, leave msgs, send text msg etc..
 
I've never used skype so sorry if this is a dumb question.
 
Thanks,
Tim
 


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RE: Encrypt Decrypt

2006-01-27 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Hi Larry,
 

 Your immediate problem can be solved by escaping it (##) AND assigning
it to another variable. Use this:

cfset encryptString = 2:GR4G5_,3++Q]##9:N+?)N4
br#Decrypt(encryptString,7xxT533zrt3d9in)#

I have tried and it worked. But just a suggestion, you might want to
work with GenerateSecretKey or hash. (For more info, consult the
livedocs).

Thanks  Regards,

Phyo Pine
Information Systems Specialist
DMV - ODOT

-Original Message-
From: Stephens, Larry V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Encrypt Decrypt


I'm using a simple encrypt statement to store info:

#Encrypt(SESSION.Customer.xxx, GetX.Item)#',

(this is from my INSERT statement) GetX.Item is the key loaded from a
table.

(I don't profess to be an expert in encryption (obviously) but, other
than being a little obtuse in the code, I don't know how to hide the key
any better on a server I don't control. I'm certainly open to
suggestion.)

Hiding the key aside, my decryption routine looks like (I'm moving it to
another table that is secure):

FieldX = '#Decrypt(FieldSaved, GetX.Item)#',


where aaa is the data retrieved from the table and GetX.Item is the same
key.

And it works, (e.g., decrypting 0Z[ STK6_,;)*!I+!/  )until the
encrypted data looks like

3JG$P5[0];!/QM#!O

So, I played with it a bit and it became obvious that the problem is the
# imbedded in the encrypted data.

What now? I can't escape it (##) because that throws an error, too.

To illustrate what seems to be happening:


!--- this works ---
cfset x=Encrypt(730072022000SerNum,7xxT533zrt3d9in)
cfoutput
#x#   !--- this will be: 2:GR4G5_,3++Q]#9:N+?)N4  ---
br /#Decrypt(x,7xxT533zrt3d9in)#

!--- run routine then uncomment next line and run again --- !---br
/#Decrypt(2:GR4G5_,3++Q]#9:N+?)N4
,7xxT533zrt3d9in)#---
/cfoutput


Larry Stephens
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: OT about CSS

2006-01-27 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Claude Schneegans wrote:
 I know this list is about CF, but I cannot find any populated group 
 about CSS,
 and well... good developers are here anyway ;-)
 
 My question is: is it specified somewhere in the docs that pseudo styles 
 for links should be given in any specific order  and why?

Why would you need people to give you an opinion when you can 
check the standard for the facts?

http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/selector.html#link-pseudo-classes

Jochem


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Starting CFMX from within JBuilder

2006-01-27 Thread Gaulin, Mark
Hi
Anybody managed to start CFMX 6.1 or 7 (using embedding JRun) in
JBuilder (or some other IDE)? I want to debug my own java classes as
they are used and this seemed like a good way to try.  (I used to do a
similar thing with JRun 3 to debug my servlets, and it worked great. I
was hoping it would apply to the JRun 4 that is underneath the
stand-along CFMX.)
 
Basically I think I need to know which jars to include in my project,
what the startup class should be, and any VM and program arguments.
I've been playing with it and have not hit on the right combination yet.
 
Thanks
Mark

 


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RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.

2006-01-27 Thread Oleg Gunkin
Phyo Pine, just use the following:
cffunction name=getColumns access=public returntype=string
cfargument name=query required=yes type=query
cfreturn ArrayToList(query.getMetaData().getColumnLabels())
/cffunction

--
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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (604) 666-9392
Emerging Technologies / Pacific Web Services
Information Technology Services
Public Works and Government Services Canada (Pacific)

-Original Message-
From: Phyo Pine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 13:15
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.


I am interested in the solution too. I was having the same trouble when I was 
using cfdump var=#queryname# as well. So the work-around I did was instead 
of
SELECT c,a,b FROM someTable, I used SELECT c as 1c, a as 2a, b as 3b FROM 
someTable.

Hope this helps...

Regards,

Phyo Pine
Information Systems Specialist
DMV - ODOT




 'query_name.columnlist' returns a sorted list of column names, but I 
 really need it to be unsorted because for the query 'select c, a, b 
 from t' I need 'c,a,b' list, NOT 'a,b,c'. How do I get an unsorted 
 list of columns?
 
 --
 Oleg Gunkin
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Phone: (604) 666-9392
 Emerging Technologies / Pacific Web Services
 Information Technology Services
 Public Works and Government Services Canada 
(Pacific)



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Re: Alternative Oracle JDBC Driver For Standard Edition

2006-01-27 Thread Lonny Eckert
Did you scour sourceforge.net for JDBC drivers? I'm sure there's at 
least one for Oracle. 

Ok, thanks our ops folks will take a look there. 

You could always go ODBC... but then that kinda hurts the performance 
and scalability, no doubt the reason you went with Oracle in the first
place. 
Speaking of limited budgets, could you go with SQL Server or MySql?

Both are multitudes cheaper than Oracle, and both fully supported by 
CF Standard ed. Though, it sounds like you're already made a deep 
Oracle db investment.

What I had not bothered to mention was that this is a conversion from
Oracle Portal. So yes the client had already invested heavily into
Oracle and wanted to stick with Oracle. Had this been a new project I
agree that SQL server would have been worth exploring as an option.


Lonny Eckert 
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RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.

2006-01-27 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Wow, thanks Oleg. 

-Original Message-
From: Oleg Gunkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 2:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.


Phyo Pine, just use the following:
cffunction name=getColumns access=public returntype=string
cfargument name=query required=yes type=query
cfreturn
ArrayToList(query.getMetaData().getColumnLabels())
/cffunction

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-Original Message-
From: Phyo Pine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 13:15
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.


I am interested in the solution too. I was having the same trouble when
I was using cfdump var=#queryname# as well. So the work-around I did
was instead of SELECT c,a,b FROM someTable, I used SELECT c as 1c, a
as 2a, b as 3b FROM someTable.

Hope this helps...

Regards,

Phyo Pine
Information Systems Specialist
DMV - ODOT




 'query_name.columnlist' returns a sorted list of column names, but I
 really need it to be unsorted because for the query 'select c, a, b 
 from t' I need 'c,a,b' list, NOT 'a,b,c'. How do I get an unsorted 
 list of columns?
 
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CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Hi all,

What IDE do you normally use for CF? I heard a lot of raves about
CFEclipse so I downloaded it and use at home. I normally use Dreamweaver
at work. Apart from CFEclipse being free, I do not find any considerable
edge or advantage over Dreamweaver. (Any CFEclipse developers, no
offence please.) Any thoughts on this? 

May be I am not using it right but CFEclipse lacks mainly, IMHO, in
graphical representation. In Dreamweaver, I can go back and fort on
Design view and Code view and most of the HTML component creation is a
snap. (May be CFEclipse is more geared for pure ColdFusion.) But in
CFEclipse I need to type everything in. Well, may be I am not geek
enough but just typing everything in for complex UI seem like really a
chore to me. 

Thanks  Regards,

Phyo Pine
Information Systems Specialist
DMV - ODOT




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Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread Barney Boisvert
CFE is definitely targeted at code-centric developers, while DW is
essentially an HTML design tool that has had a lot code-centric stuff
bolted on.  Neither approach is better or worse, just suited to
different people.  The most important difference, however, has nothing
to do with that.

CFE is built upon Eclipse, which brings with it more tools that you
could hope to learn about this year.  You install Eclipse, and then
you can start building the dev environment that you need, not the one
that company X thought you needed.  For example, DW doesn't integrate
with version control, but Eclipse plugins exist for CVS, SVN,
Perforce, VSS, and probably others.  Want XML editing?  There are
choices there too: XmlBuddy, oXygen, MyEclipse's XML stuff, and
others.

That's the best reason I see to use CFE over DW.  In all honesty, I
still think CFE is lacking compared to DW in some areas (like snippet
usability), but the external tools support make it WAY better overall.
 I might lose 10-15 minutes a day because of stuff DW would make
easier, but I'll save an hour or more with all the other integrated
tools I can use in it.

cheers,
barneyb

On 1/27/06, PINE Phyo Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 What IDE do you normally use for CF? I heard a lot of raves about
 CFEclipse so I downloaded it and use at home. I normally use Dreamweaver
 at work. Apart from CFEclipse being free, I do not find any considerable
 edge or advantage over Dreamweaver. (Any CFEclipse developers, no
 offence please.) Any thoughts on this?

 May be I am not using it right but CFEclipse lacks mainly, IMHO, in
 graphical representation. In Dreamweaver, I can go back and fort on
 Design view and Code view and most of the HTML component creation is a
 snap. (May be CFEclipse is more geared for pure ColdFusion.) But in
 CFEclipse I need to type everything in. Well, may be I am not geek
 enough but just typing everything in for complex UI seem like really a
 chore to me.

 Thanks  Regards,

 Phyo Pine

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Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread Spike
If you find that the design view part of DreamWeaver is important to
you, it is probably best to stick with that rather than CFEclipse. One
of the goals of CFEclipse is to be a code centric tool, which means
that we have pretty much no intention of adding design view support.

Spike

On 1/27/06, PINE Phyo Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 What IDE do you normally use for CF? I heard a lot of raves about
 CFEclipse so I downloaded it and use at home. I normally use Dreamweaver
 at work. Apart from CFEclipse being free, I do not find any considerable
 edge or advantage over Dreamweaver. (Any CFEclipse developers, no
 offence please.) Any thoughts on this?

 May be I am not using it right but CFEclipse lacks mainly, IMHO, in
 graphical representation. In Dreamweaver, I can go back and fort on
 Design view and Code view and most of the HTML component creation is a
 snap. (May be CFEclipse is more geared for pure ColdFusion.) But in
 CFEclipse I need to type everything in. Well, may be I am not geek
 enough but just typing everything in for complex UI seem like really a
 chore to me.

 Thanks  Regards,

 Phyo Pine
 Information Systems Specialist
 DMV - ODOT




 

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Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread Barney Boisvert
The MyEclipse set of plugins has visual HTML editing, if you need it. 
It's woth the $30/yr for the other tools, but that one's in there as
well.  www.myeclipseide.com

cheers,
barneyb

On 1/27/06, Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you find that the design view part of DreamWeaver is important to
 you, it is probably best to stick with that rather than CFEclipse. One
 of the goals of CFEclipse is to be a code centric tool, which means
 that we have pretty much no intention of adding design view support.

 Spike

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Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread John Wilker
Just to clarify DW does integrate with source control. VSS, out of the box,
others with some tweaking. I've used Seapine and VSS with DW

That said.

I like both. THere are some lazy programmer things DW offers (tag closing)
that I really have gotten used to.

Both are great in their own ways.

On 1/27/06, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 CFE is definitely targeted at code-centric developers, while DW is
 essentially an HTML design tool that has had a lot code-centric stuff
 bolted on.  Neither approach is better or worse, just suited to
 different people.  The most important difference, however, has nothing
 to do with that.

 CFE is built upon Eclipse, which brings with it more tools that you
 could hope to learn about this year.  You install Eclipse, and then
 you can start building the dev environment that you need, not the one
 that company X thought you needed.  For example, DW doesn't integrate
 with version control, but Eclipse plugins exist for CVS, SVN,
 Perforce, VSS, and probably others.  Want XML editing?  There are
 choices there too: XmlBuddy, oXygen, MyEclipse's XML stuff, and
 others.

 That's the best reason I see to use CFE over DW.  In all honesty, I
 still think CFE is lacking compared to DW in some areas (like snippet
 usability), but the external tools support make it WAY better overall.
 I might lose 10-15 minutes a day because of stuff DW would make
 easier, but I'll save an hour or more with all the other integrated
 tools I can use in it.

 cheers,
 barneyb

 On 1/27/06, PINE Phyo Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  What IDE do you normally use for CF? I heard a lot of raves about
  CFEclipse so I downloaded it and use at home. I normally use Dreamweaver
  at work. Apart from CFEclipse being free, I do not find any considerable
  edge or advantage over Dreamweaver. (Any CFEclipse developers, no
  offence please.) Any thoughts on this?
 
  May be I am not using it right but CFEclipse lacks mainly, IMHO, in
  graphical representation. In Dreamweaver, I can go back and fort on
  Design view and Code view and most of the HTML component creation is a
  snap. (May be CFEclipse is more geared for pure ColdFusion.) But in
  CFEclipse I need to type everything in. Well, may be I am not geek
  enough but just typing everything in for complex UI seem like really a
  chore to me.
 
  Thanks  Regards,
 
  Phyo Pine

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RE: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Hi Barney,

 yes, you are right. When it comes to version control with CVS et al.,
CFEclipse is best suited. Thanks for pointing that out. Apart from being
the CF developer, I am also a Java developer and working on Eclipse
platform too. So, I can see the benefits that you describe. Within one
tool, you can move from Java to CF to XML to anything else Eclipse is
supporting. In that aspect, CFEclipse is cool. May be I should find
another Eclipse plug-ins for HTML and CSS for design aspects.

Thanks  Regards,
Pine

-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 2:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver


CFE is definitely targeted at code-centric developers, while DW is
essentially an HTML design tool that has had a lot code-centric stuff
bolted on.  Neither approach is better or worse, just suited to
different people.  The most important difference, however, has nothing
to do with that.

CFE is built upon Eclipse, which brings with it more tools that you
could hope to learn about this year.  You install Eclipse, and then you
can start building the dev environment that you need, not the one that
company X thought you needed.  For example, DW doesn't integrate with
version control, but Eclipse plugins exist for CVS, SVN, Perforce, VSS,
and probably others.  Want XML editing?  There are choices there too:
XmlBuddy, oXygen, MyEclipse's XML stuff, and others.

That's the best reason I see to use CFE over DW.  In all honesty, I
still think CFE is lacking compared to DW in some areas (like snippet
usability), but the external tools support make it WAY better overall.
I might lose 10-15 minutes a day because of stuff DW would make easier,
but I'll save an hour or more with all the other integrated tools I can
use in it.

cheers,
barneyb

On 1/27/06, PINE Phyo Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 What IDE do you normally use for CF? I heard a lot of raves about 
 CFEclipse so I downloaded it and use at home. I normally use 
 Dreamweaver at work. Apart from CFEclipse being free, I do not find 
 any considerable edge or advantage over Dreamweaver. (Any CFEclipse 
 developers, no offence please.) Any thoughts on this?

 May be I am not using it right but CFEclipse lacks mainly, IMHO, in 
 graphical representation. In Dreamweaver, I can go back and fort on 
 Design view and Code view and most of the HTML component creation is a

 snap. (May be CFEclipse is more geared for pure ColdFusion.) But in 
 CFEclipse I need to type everything in. Well, may be I am not geek 
 enough but just typing everything in for complex UI seem like really a

 chore to me.

 Thanks  Regards,

 Phyo Pine

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.barneyb.com/

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RE: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Hi Spike,

You are probably right. While I want to code tons of CFCs or UDFs I
might use CFEclipse and while I have many UI elements to develop, I
might switch to Dreamweaver. Nonetheless, I can see CFEclipse has the
potential and would like to see some design elements considerations in
future version. Anyway, that is just my view. 

A little bit OT but just curious since I am also using WSAD (WebSphere
Application Developer) which is on Eclipse platform, is there any way
that I can use CFEclipse inside WSAD?

Thanks  Regards,
Pine

-Original Message-
From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 2:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver


If you find that the design view part of DreamWeaver is important to
you, it is probably best to stick with that rather than CFEclipse. One
of the goals of CFEclipse is to be a code centric tool, which means that
we have pretty much no intention of adding design view support.

Spike

On 1/27/06, PINE Phyo Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 What IDE do you normally use for CF? I heard a lot of raves about 
 CFEclipse so I downloaded it and use at home. I normally use 
 Dreamweaver at work. Apart from CFEclipse being free, I do not find 
 any considerable edge or advantage over Dreamweaver. (Any CFEclipse 
 developers, no offence please.) Any thoughts on this?

 May be I am not using it right but CFEclipse lacks mainly, IMHO, in 
 graphical representation. In Dreamweaver, I can go back and fort on 
 Design view and Code view and most of the HTML component creation is a

 snap. (May be CFEclipse is more geared for pure ColdFusion.) But in 
 CFEclipse I need to type everything in. Well, may be I am not geek 
 enough but just typing everything in for complex UI seem like really a

 chore to me.

 Thanks  Regards,

 Phyo Pine
 Information Systems Specialist
 DMV - ODOT




 



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RE: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Heh heh... You are right on about the tag closing feature. Now-a-days,
after I typed an opening tag, I almost expect the closing tag to be
appeared automatically..



-Original Message-
From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver


Just to clarify DW does integrate with source control. VSS, out of the
box, others with some tweaking. I've used Seapine and VSS with DW

That said.

I like both. THere are some lazy programmer things DW offers (tag
closing) that I really have gotten used to.

Both are great in their own ways.

On 1/27/06, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 CFE is definitely targeted at code-centric developers, while DW is 
 essentially an HTML design tool that has had a lot code-centric stuff 
 bolted on.  Neither approach is better or worse, just suited to 
 different people.  The most important difference, however, has nothing

 to do with that.

 CFE is built upon Eclipse, which brings with it more tools that you 
 could hope to learn about this year.  You install Eclipse, and then 
 you can start building the dev environment that you need, not the one 
 that company X thought you needed.  For example, DW doesn't integrate 
 with version control, but Eclipse plugins exist for CVS, SVN, 
 Perforce, VSS, and probably others.  Want XML editing?  There are 
 choices there too: XmlBuddy, oXygen, MyEclipse's XML stuff, and 
 others.

 That's the best reason I see to use CFE over DW.  In all honesty, I 
 still think CFE is lacking compared to DW in some areas (like snippet 
 usability), but the external tools support make it WAY better overall.

 I might lose 10-15 minutes a day because of stuff DW would make 
 easier, but I'll save an hour or more with all the other integrated 
 tools I can use in it.

 cheers,
 barneyb

 On 1/27/06, PINE Phyo Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  What IDE do you normally use for CF? I heard a lot of raves about 
  CFEclipse so I downloaded it and use at home. I normally use 
  Dreamweaver at work. Apart from CFEclipse being free, I do not find 
  any considerable edge or advantage over Dreamweaver. (Any CFEclipse 
  developers, no offence please.) Any thoughts on this?
 
  May be I am not using it right but CFEclipse lacks mainly, IMHO, in 
  graphical representation. In Dreamweaver, I can go back and fort on 
  Design view and Code view and most of the HTML component creation is

  a snap. (May be CFEclipse is more geared for pure ColdFusion.) But 
  in CFEclipse I need to type everything in. Well, may be I am not 
  geek enough but just typing everything in for complex UI seem like 
  really a chore to me.
 
  Thanks  Regards,
 
  Phyo Pine

 --
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread Robert Munn
as barney said, myeclipse has all that and more, especially for java 
developers. definitely check their site. imho, it's the best java plugin for 
the money that you can get. 

 yes, you are right. When it comes to version control with CVS et al.,
CFEclipse is best suited. Thanks for pointing that out. Apart from being
the CF developer, I am also a Java developer and working on Eclipse
platform too. So, I can see the benefits that you describe. Within one
tool, you can move from Java to CF to XML to anything else Eclipse is
supporting. In that aspect, CFEclipse is cool. May be I should find
another Eclipse plug-ins for HTML and CSS for design aspects.


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Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread Casey Dougall
Dreamweaver = Windows and Mac

Eclipse = Linux, Windows  Mac

Adobe - Windows, Mac - So I doubt we'll see any change soon... DAM!

Outside of this, unless your making straight plain websites like
google. Dreamweaver is the way to go... Take your fireworks layout,
cut-it up, do some tricky stuff in dreamweaver, Add your CFas needed
though the templates and of course look at your website as it's being
built. BAM!!!

Properties inspector is fairly good in dreamweaver. I could do without
having to use a seperate pannel for CFFORM properties and stuff like
that but ourside of this everything you need it right there. Yeah your
still coding a bunch, but if you CODE CORECTLY it will show up in
dreamweaver.

I've seen my fair share of scripts which show some type of closed
table crap, where you can't see the correct table layout... Just this
table cell where you should see a whole application... It migh work
like it is but there must be problems in the code if dreamweaver can't
even figure out what your coldfusion is doing inside table cells. I've
seen this when people used Coldfusion Studio...

Outside of this... I'm about to switch to Eclipse just to go back to linux...



On 1/27/06, PINE Phyo Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Heh heh... You are right on about the tag closing feature. Now-a-days,
 after I typed an opening tag, I almost expect the closing tag to be
 appeared automatically..



 -Original Message-
 From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:02 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver


 Just to clarify DW does integrate with source control. VSS, out of the
 box, others with some tweaking. I've used Seapine and VSS with DW

 That said.

 I like both. THere are some lazy programmer things DW offers (tag
 closing) that I really have gotten used to.

 Both are great in their own ways.

 On 1/27/06, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  CFE is definitely targeted at code-centric developers, while DW is
  essentially an HTML design tool that has had a lot code-centric stuff
  bolted on.  Neither approach is better or worse, just suited to
  different people.  The most important difference, however, has nothing

  to do with that.
 
  CFE is built upon Eclipse, which brings with it more tools that you
  could hope to learn about this year.  You install Eclipse, and then
  you can start building the dev environment that you need, not the one
  that company X thought you needed.  For example, DW doesn't integrate
  with version control, but Eclipse plugins exist for CVS, SVN,
  Perforce, VSS, and probably others.  Want XML editing?  There are
  choices there too: XmlBuddy, oXygen, MyEclipse's XML stuff, and
  others.
 
  That's the best reason I see to use CFE over DW.  In all honesty, I
  still think CFE is lacking compared to DW in some areas (like snippet
  usability), but the external tools support make it WAY better overall.

  I might lose 10-15 minutes a day because of stuff DW would make
  easier, but I'll save an hour or more with all the other integrated
  tools I can use in it.
 
  cheers,
  barneyb
 
  On 1/27/06, PINE Phyo Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   What IDE do you normally use for CF? I heard a lot of raves about
   CFEclipse so I downloaded it and use at home. I normally use
   Dreamweaver at work. Apart from CFEclipse being free, I do not find
   any considerable edge or advantage over Dreamweaver. (Any CFEclipse
   developers, no offence please.) Any thoughts on this?
  
   May be I am not using it right but CFEclipse lacks mainly, IMHO, in
   graphical representation. In Dreamweaver, I can go back and fort on
   Design view and Code view and most of the HTML component creation is

   a snap. (May be CFEclipse is more geared for pure ColdFusion.) But
   in CFEclipse I need to type everything in. Well, may be I am not
   geek enough but just typing everything in for complex UI seem like
   really a chore to me.
  
   Thanks  Regards,
  
   Phyo Pine
 
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Re: cffunction with infinite number of parameters

2006-01-27 Thread Sean Corfield
On 1/27/06, Oleg Gunkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do I make a function with unlimited number of parameters, and how do I 
 access these parameters?

cffunction name=foo
  cfset var i = 0
  cfset var n = arraylen(arguments)
  cfloop from=1 to=#n# index=i
cfoutputp#arguments[i]#/p/cfoutput
  /cfloop
/cffunction

cfscript
foo();
foo(1,2,3);
/cfscript

You can access arguments as an array or as a struct (if you dump it
inside foo() you'll see a struct - with no keys for the first call and
with three keys for the second: 1, 2 and 3).
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RE: CFINVOKE with no WSDL?

2006-01-27 Thread Andrew Stevens
WSAD can definitely create WSDL. You could point them to WSAD help, it
contains a bunch of cheat sheets and wizards to help with just that sort of
thing.

Cheers,
AS

-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2006 2:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFINVOKE with no WSDL?

We're attempting to work with SOAP-based web services which lack WSDL
files.  The only answer we've gotten for this remarkable stupidity is that
WSAD (WebSphere Application Developer) can't produce WSDL so they didn't do
it.

We do know the methods, parameters, etc.  Can CFINVOKE still be of use or
will we have to degrade back to CFHTTP and raw XML parsing?

Thanks,

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RE: Date Formats

2006-01-27 Thread Andrew Stevens
Hi Claude, obviously there's some history to 'createODBCdate' and the
function name says it all. 

I was wondering - now CFMX uses JDBC is there any problems using
createODBCdate with JDBC connections? Is there a better practice,
alternative functions? Or does CF just handle it all? 

Cheers,
AS 

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2006 9:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Date Formats

 am sure I haven't had that problem with other databases thought.

Actually, it depends on the date.
If the date cannot be interpreted as a valid date in American format, CF 
will assume it is in European and convert it correctly.
Problem arrises when the date format is ambiguous, like 10/12/2005. This 
date is valid in American format, and CF has no way,
nor any reason to supose it could be in European format.
So actually you will only have a problem for the first 12 days of any 
month, except the first of jan, the 2nd of feb, etc.
AND somebody discovers something is wrong, which is not 100% of times ;-)

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RE: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread Peter Bell
One simple question re: CFEclipse. I'm still using CF Studio 5.0. I can
write my code, snippet support is good, and I can use the left hand side
explorer view to FTP to my web servers and edit file in situ. I find
Dreamweaver to be a little buggy if/when the FTP connection runs slowly, so
I still use CFStudio. I can't find a similar feature in CFEclipse. Is there
an easy way to see an explorer view with a list of FTP servers so I can edit
various remote files easily in CFEclipse?

Best Wishes,
Peter


-Original Message-
From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 5:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver


as barney said, myeclipse has all that and more, especially for java
developers. definitely check their site. imho, it's the best java plugin for
the money that you can get. 

 yes, you are right. When it comes to version control with CVS et al., 
CFEclipse is best suited. Thanks for pointing that out. Apart from 
being the CF developer, I am also a Java developer and working on 
Eclipse platform too. So, I can see the benefits that you describe. 
Within one tool, you can move from Java to CF to XML to anything else 
Eclipse is supporting. In that aspect, CFEclipse is cool. May be I 
should find another Eclipse plug-ins for HTML and CSS for design 
aspects.




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Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread Sean Corfield
On 1/27/06, Peter Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I find
 Dreamweaver to be a little buggy if/when the FTP connection runs slowly

Which version of Dreamweaver? FTP support was overhauled for DW8 and
now runs in the background so it doesn't even stop you working on
files while FTP operations execute.

 I can't find a similar feature in CFEclipse. Is there
 an easy way to see an explorer view with a list of FTP servers so I can edit
 various remote files easily in CFEclipse?

FTP support is pretty poor in Eclipse, in my opinion.
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Re: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread Geoff Bowers
On 1/28/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Indeed, there is, but it cannot compete with the likes of CommonSpot
 when it comes to features out of the box - not to say that it isn't a
 good CMS - I know it is, but its very very light on features.

Many of us would disagree with such a statement; the market suggests
that FarCry does appear to compete well and often.  This is especially
surprising considering it has no marketing machinery behind it -- it
simply stands on its own merits.

Of course, those of us actively developing FarCry would be very
interested to hear what you consider a feature, and those features
you feel we might be very very light on.  Rather than damning with
faint praise I think it would help to hear where you think we can put
our efforts to improve things.  For example, the most current feature
list document for FarCry is 14 pages A4 and was written in 2003 --
and we've come a long way since then.

To date, the general efforts of the FarCry community have been focused
on providing an extensible platform where it is relatively easy to
customise your solution to your specific requirements.  It's true, we
don't have things like a poll feature or other very simplistic
innovations.  We try and concentrate on making it easy to write your
own poll rather than being compelled to use the products version of
a poll, if you get my meaning.

In any event, we are always eager to hear feedback on key features
that should be implemented:
  http://www.farcrycms.org/go/support/community-support
or the web forum aggregate of the lists at:
  http://www.nabble.com/FarCry-f621.html

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RE: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread Baz
I second that... remote access in general is weak in Eclipse. Also bad, is
not being able to double-click a file in windows explorer and have it open
in the same instance of Eclipse. Spike has a plug-in for that I think, but
it seems heavy for something so trivial. Eclipse likes you to create
projects.

Baz


-Original Message-
From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

On 1/27/06, Peter Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I find
 Dreamweaver to be a little buggy if/when the FTP connection runs slowly

Which version of Dreamweaver? FTP support was overhauled for DW8 and
now runs in the background so it doesn't even stop you working on
files while FTP operations execute.

 I can't find a similar feature in CFEclipse. Is there
 an easy way to see an explorer view with a list of FTP servers so I can
edit
 various remote files easily in CFEclipse?

FTP support is pretty poor in Eclipse, in my opinion.
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Re: Who is using a large scale CMS?

2006-01-27 Thread Geoff Bowers
On 1/28/06, John Beynon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what do you class as large scale? users? pages?

I suspect that enterprise aka large scale CMS can mean a multitude
of things to a multitude of people :)

To me it's the complexity of the project; migration issues, editing
requirements, content types and their relationships and so on.  With
caching technology and clustering what it is today, there are very few
well budgeted sites that really have performance issues.

We work a lot with the FarCry platform, both in the capacity of
building and supporting small to large scale projects.  Its not the be
and end all, and its not going to be the magic bullet for any CMS
environment, however, we've worked with a variety of teams to release
some very complex sites using FarCry in the last year, for example:

Mayo Clinic
  http://www.mayoclinic.com/
Lonelyplanet Worldguide
  http://www.lonelyplanet.com/worldguide/
Bluescope Steel
  http://www.bluescopesteel.com.au/

Mind you the teams involved are miracle workers considering the FarCry
platform is virtually bereft of features...

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http://www.daemon.com.au/

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Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread Greg Hamer
Great question Phyo!

I too heard the buzz about CFEclipse, installed it and ended up wondering
what all of the excitement was about?  Sincerely, I really do want to be won
over.

But in doing the comparison, would the CFEclipse advocates please qualify
which version of Dreamweaver they last worked with?

DW8's tag collapse and balance braces alone make it a winner for me.  Note,
the tag collapse works with any tag based syntax.  It is the bomb.

Regarding Barney's view about the code-centric stuff bolted on, I prefer
to view it as two tools for the price of one.  The world's best graphical
HTML authoring tool (and DW8 has brilliant improvements for CSS support),
AND for code editing, HOMESITE/CFStudio evolved.  And I too like being able
to navigate by going back and forth between code and design views.

No dis on CFEclipse.  I am a HUGE open source fan (MySQL, Subversion,
Tomcat, Open Office, and on and on).  Personally for me, however, CFEclipse
is not YET the productivity tool that DW8 is.

And calling tag completion lazy programmer things.  Oh yeah tough guy!  So
why are you using CFEclipse?  Why don't you just do all of your coding in
VI. lol.  Man, when my fingers are flying across the keyboard, anything
that:  a) get's the job done sooner; b) eliminates even 1 typo in 1000, is
cool by me.  I mean, the whole point of using computers is to let computers
do the things computers can do (like tag completion and code collapse), so
that we developers can maximize our time doing the things that computers can
not do.

fyi ... following are two recent articles on CFEclipse from CFDJ.  The
August article is the one that convinced me to take CFEclipse for a spin.
The January article I haven't read yet.

CFEclipse for ColdFusion Developers -- Jan 20, 2006
http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/167971.htm

CFEclipse: The Developer's IDE, Eclipse For ColdFusion -- Aug 18, 2005
http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/48235.htm

Again, I look forward to the day that CFEclipse is my tool of choice.  But I
must say, I admire how Macromedia keeps giving me reasons to buy their
products in the midst of competition from open source.   Oh, hey, isn't this
a cf list?  The new features in CF7 were brilliant.  No open source tools
giving me gateways and report writers (yet).  I am now eagerly awaiting the
first Adobe CF release.

Best Regards,

g


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Re: Date Formats

2006-01-27 Thread Claude Schneegans
 Or does CF just handle it all?

Yes it does, JDBC will take ODBCdates as well.

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Is there a Cumulative Hotfix Patch #2 for CFMX 7.01?

2006-01-27 Thread Marius Milosav
Some of our users have start receiving the 500 Resetting to invalid mark
error  after upgrading to 7.01
This forum thread
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=3threadid=1103217enterthread=y
explains the problem and apparently there is a fix for it, but I cannot find
it on the MM site.

Is the hotfix publicly available? I desperately need it by Monday.

Thanks
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RE: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread Steven Brownlee
Reasons I use Eclipse 90% of the time:

1.  It's a true IDE.  I find it ultimately more convenient to have my DB
tool, CF/Java code editor, stylesheet editor, source control view and
regular expression builder all available at once instead of having multiple
apps open
2.  It's free  :)
3.  Tag completion.  Don't know why people think that's a DW only feature
4.  CVS and Subversion integration.  Have to use 'em and Eclipse tools are
uber
5.  Interface is more customizable

I use Dreamweaver 8 now and it's useful for a couple of things that Eclipse
is weak on:
1.  Search  Replace
2.  HTML template creation

-Original Message-
From: Greg Hamer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

Great question Phyo!

I too heard the buzz about CFEclipse, installed it and ended up wondering
what all of the excitement was about?  Sincerely, I really do want to be won
over.

But in doing the comparison, would the CFEclipse advocates please qualify
which version of Dreamweaver they last worked with?

DW8's tag collapse and balance braces alone make it a winner for me.  Note,
the tag collapse works with any tag based syntax.  It is the bomb.

Regarding Barney's view about the code-centric stuff bolted on, I prefer
to view it as two tools for the price of one.  The world's best graphical
HTML authoring tool (and DW8 has brilliant improvements for CSS support),
AND for code editing, HOMESITE/CFStudio evolved.  And I too like being able
to navigate by going back and forth between code and design views.

No dis on CFEclipse.  I am a HUGE open source fan (MySQL, Subversion,
Tomcat, Open Office, and on and on).  Personally for me, however, CFEclipse
is not YET the productivity tool that DW8 is.

And calling tag completion lazy programmer things.  Oh yeah tough guy!  So
why are you using CFEclipse?  Why don't you just do all of your coding in
VI. lol.  Man, when my fingers are flying across the keyboard, anything
that:  a) get's the job done sooner; b) eliminates even 1 typo in 1000, is
cool by me.  I mean, the whole point of using computers is to let computers
do the things computers can do (like tag completion and code collapse), so
that we developers can maximize our time doing the things that computers can
not do.

fyi ... following are two recent articles on CFEclipse from CFDJ.  The
August article is the one that convinced me to take CFEclipse for a spin.
The January article I haven't read yet.

CFEclipse for ColdFusion Developers -- Jan 20, 2006
http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/167971.htm

CFEclipse: The Developer's IDE, Eclipse For ColdFusion -- Aug 18, 2005
http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/48235.htm

Again, I look forward to the day that CFEclipse is my tool of choice.  But I
must say, I admire how Macromedia keeps giving me reasons to buy their
products in the midst of competition from open source.   Oh, hey, isn't this
a cf list?  The new features in CF7 were brilliant.  No open source tools
giving me gateways and report writers (yet).  I am now eagerly awaiting the
first Adobe CF release.

Best Regards,

g




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