RE: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
Sean, I am going to ask in a different way, and I would hope that you can provide a code example to explain you reasoning in more detail. When learning design patterns in Java, the book Head First Design Patterns gives a good example on the duck, with interfaces and implementation. I would like for someone like yourself help us understand this in CF better, because I am not getting it from the technical side that you mention, call me stupid but I don't get it. After reading this book, I see that when creating interfaces I can create an object and know that these methods are going to exist for the object. But to confuse the issue you say that CF doesn't need it, and I believe it provides a stronger mechanism for robust code. So if we take the duck example in the book, how would you apply this in Coldfusion without using interfaces? Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2007 7:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO? On 7/10/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sean why are you so against this? I welcome this with great open arms... Java needed interfaces because it is a statically typed language and had chosen not to support multiple inheritance. It had no choice. In ColdFusion, all type checking is done at run time. So if you use interfaces, you will get a *runtime* check, just like all the other checks. And if you screw up, you'll get a runtime error. If you use interfaces, the error just has different text in it (OK, that's a *slight* oversimplification :) Furthermore, since CF is a dynamic language, you can change methods on an object after constructing it, thus removing any guarantees that an interface would buy you. You remove a method or simply replace a method with a different signature. The interface no longer applies. Then there's the actual details of how cfinterface performs its type check. It requires that the function signatures match exactly, as do the return types. That's not how interfaces work in statically typed languages. An interface defines a constraining API, not an exact API: you can specify arguments (in an implementation class method) that are compatible with the interface method arguments (e.g., adding optional arguments or using more permissive types). You can also specify more constrained return types since those can't violate the interface (i.e., an implementation method can return a subtype of the interface method's return type). Finally (thank god you say!), other dynamic OO languages don't have interfaces - and don't need them. The only reason CF8 has interfaces is to satisfy the CF-should-be-more-like-Java crowd. And, yes, I admit I was the person who entered the original ER to add interfaces and, yes, I whipped up support from the community. I regret that. I should have left well alone. I've probably done more to cause the CF-should-be-more-like-Java argument than anyone and that was a big mistake on my part. I've seen the light now... I hope others do too... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283440 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
On 7/10/07, Eric Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why can't you have overloading in a dynamically typed language? Because of the overhead of performing overload resolution - which you'd have to do at runtime in a dynamic language. Read this for more details: http://corfield.org/entry/Overloading_is_not_OO > If I remember correctly from my C days, you can overload in C... No, you can't. C did have a little magic to allow a very limited amount of 'fudging' this in the Standard library however... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283439 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
You would almost have to set up a hierarchy in a dynamically typed language. If you didn't and had an overloaded method, one expecting string and one expecting numeric, and passed in 1.92, which method would it call? Nicholas M. Tunney Blog: http://www.nictunney.com Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer Adobe Certified Instructor Adobe Community Expert Eric Roberts wrote: > Why can't you have overloading in a dynamically typed language? Overloading > isn't just sending over an argument with a different type...it is also > sending over different numbers of arguments. If I remember correctly from > my C days, you can overload in C...so I would agree that these have nothing > to do with OO. > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:02 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO? > > On 7/9/07, Steve Brownlee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> - Overloading >> - Generics >> - Method overriding >> - Static methods >> - And most importantly, it's not typed (i.e. you can't cast a Sphere CFC >> > as > >> a Ball CFC, among a myriad of other possibilities) >> > > None of these has the slightest thing to do with OO. Lots of OO > languages out there do not have any of these features! > > This is exactly my point: you're blinded by Java. Generics in > particular are ANTI-OO. Generic programming is completely orthogonal > to OO. Read some of the literature. Read about the STL in C++. > > You CANNOT have overloading in a dynamically typed language. > > ColdFusion already has method overriding. > > Static methods have nothing to do with OO (they are in fact more > procedural than OO). > > Casting types has nothing to do with OO - in a dynamic language, you > don't NEED casts - the objects already behave the right way. > ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283438 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
Why can't you have overloading in a dynamically typed language? Overloading isn't just sending over an argument with a different type...it is also sending over different numbers of arguments. If I remember correctly from my C days, you can overload in C...so I would agree that these have nothing to do with OO. Eric -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO? On 7/9/07, Steve Brownlee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Overloading > - Generics > - Method overriding > - Static methods > - And most importantly, it's not typed (i.e. you can't cast a Sphere CFC as > a Ball CFC, among a myriad of other possibilities) None of these has the slightest thing to do with OO. Lots of OO languages out there do not have any of these features! This is exactly my point: you're blinded by Java. Generics in particular are ANTI-OO. Generic programming is completely orthogonal to OO. Read some of the literature. Read about the STL in C++. You CANNOT have overloading in a dynamically typed language. ColdFusion already has method overriding. Static methods have nothing to do with OO (they are in fact more procedural than OO). Casting types has nothing to do with OO - in a dynamic language, you don't NEED casts - the objects already behave the right way. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283437 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Named anchor + url params in IE
came across this thread in my search for a solution. was this ever sorted as i am having the exact problem with IE7?? mike >I'm finding that urls with both parameters and a named anchor, like this: > > somesite/somedir/somefile.cfm?method=go&action=showHelp#help_sql > >...work fine in Firefox, but not in IE. It goes to the page, but not to the >requested anchor. > > >Also tried this variant: > > somesite/somedir/somefile.cfm#help_sql?method=go&action=showHelp > >...no joy in either browser. > > >Has anyone else seen this behavior? More importantly, got a workaround? > >Thanks, > >Dave Merrill ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283436 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Selecting top row in access db
how about that - adding an additional column to the order by clause fixed it! thanks heaps adrian. >Have a read of this: > >http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22-5035113.html > >Might explain things. > >Adrian > >-Original Message- >From: Mike Little >Sent: 11 July 2007 00:19 >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Re: Selecting top row in access db > > >ok, it appears to be my order by clause. having simply ORDER BY article_id >DESC works? if anyone can expand on this for me it would be appreciated as i >really would like to order as i have in the query that does not work... > >query. >> >>Regards >>Mike ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283435 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ImageCFC 2.18 released
Great work Rick! Rick Root wrote: > ImageCFC 2.18 is now available. I tested it with Coldfusion MX 7 on > Linux, Coldfusion 8 beta on Windows and Linux, and Bluedragon 7 on > Linux. > > It works much better than 2.17 did. > > A future version will probably cause image.cfc to act as an > "intermediary" to cfimage in Coldfusion 8 to take advantage of the > improved performance and image quality available by using cfimage... > but for now.. it works :) > > It's in subversion - http://svn.riaforge.org/imagecfc , and can also > be downloaded as a zip file from riaforge as well: > http://imagecfc.riaforge.org/index.cfm?event=action.download > > Rick > > ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283434 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Selecting top row in access db
Have a read of this: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-22-5035113.html Might explain things. Adrian -Original Message- From: Mike Little Sent: 11 July 2007 00:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Selecting top row in access db ok, it appears to be my order by clause. having simply ORDER BY article_id DESC works? if anyone can expand on this for me it would be appreciated as i really would like to order as i have in the query that does not work... >I know this is gunna be something simple... > >I have a cfc which contains the following query (using access database)... > >username="#variables.dbusername#" password="#variables.dbpassword#"> > >SELECT TOP 1 >article.* >FROM article >WHERE 1=1 > > AND article_id = cfsqltype="cf_sql_integer"> > > > AND issue_id = cfsqltype="cf_sql_integer"> > >ORDER BY issue_id DESC, order_key > > >The query executes perfectly except that is returns 3 rows instead of one. >In the debugging out it shows... > >qgetArticles (Datasource=GME14211S1A, Time=16ms, Records=3) in >C:\CFusionMX\wwwroot\Interface\com\article.cfc @ 10:44:00.000 > >SELECT TOP 1 >article.* >FROM article >WHERE 1=1 >ORDER BY issue_id DESC, order_key > >What am I doing wrong, as the TOP function is working fine in another query. > >Regards >Mike ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283433 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Selecting top row in access db
ok, it appears to be my order by clause. having simply ORDER BY article_id DESC works? if anyone can expand on this for me it would be appreciated as i really would like to order as i have in the query that does not work... >I know this is gunna be something simple... > >I have a cfc which contains the following query (using access database)... > >username="#variables.dbusername#" password="#variables.dbpassword#"> > >SELECT TOP 1 >article.* >FROM article >WHERE 1=1 > > AND article_id = cfsqltype="cf_sql_integer"> > > > AND issue_id = cfsqltype="cf_sql_integer"> > >ORDER BY issue_id DESC, order_key > > >The query executes perfectly except that is returns 3 rows instead of one. >In the debugging out it shows... > >qgetArticles (Datasource=GME14211S1A, Time=16ms, Records=3) in >C:\CFusionMX\wwwroot\Interface\com\article.cfc @ 10:44:00.000 > >SELECT TOP 1 >article.* >FROM article >WHERE 1=1 >ORDER BY issue_id DESC, order_key > >What am I doing wrong, as the TOP function is working fine in another query. > >Regards >Mike ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283432 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF7.0.2 bug: cfform xml, not validating Range.
FYI, validateat="onServer" works. >**BUG** >Concise problem statement: >Steps to reproduce bug: > 1. make a cfform format="xml" > 2. use the Range validation example from cfinput MX7 livedoc > 3. submit form > Results: range is not checked at all. > Expected results: range is check just like when format="html" > >Just reported to Adobe... > > >Are there any more undocumented limitation with cfform format="xml"? ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283430 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Metadata for code documentation (was RE: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?)
> -Original Message- > From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2007 7:16 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO? > > > On Tuesday 10 Jul 2007, Sean Corfield wrote: > > In ColdFusion, all type checking is done at run time. So if you use > > interfaces, you will get a *runtime* check, just like all the other > > checks. And if you screw up, you'll get a runtime error. If you use > > interfaces, the error just has different text in it (OK, that's a > > *slight* oversimplification :) > > I want Interfaces so I can aid other developers intergrating with > my code- it > explictly codes the contract. > I love the idea of documenting the intention - something that can be very obscure using mixins. However, as Sean and Ben Nadel have pointed out, there is no enforceable contract, so cfinterface turns into an elaborate commenting mechanism with a runtime performance penalty. That reminds me of another idea for documenting intention in a structured way that *doesn't* have a performance penalty. I'm certainly not the first person to point this out, but you can add arbitrary attributes to the cfcomponent, cffunction and cfargument tags that then appear in the metadata. I'd love to see the community generate some momentum on a standard set of metadata to aid in code introspection. For example, if converting code from typed to untyped for performance reasons, instead of removing "type" and "returntype" attributes, why not change them to "_type" and "_returntype", thus documenting the original intention?. If ducktyping, the _type attribute could read "any CFC that implements getID()" for example. It would then be simple matter to adapt CF's builtin CFC introspection to read these attributes. Similarly, if you have a function in a superclass like this: why not add an "abstract" attribute to document the intention. From there it's not too hard to parse the metadata into XMI and produce a UML diagram, if that's what floats your boat. And I know there's somebody out there (sorry -forgot who you are) who uses cfproperty tags to document composition relationships. This *is* just documentation, *not* an attempt to add Java-style annotations, and isn't necessarily any more accurate than any other documentation. The cool thing is the ability to import it into other tools. Jaime Metcher ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283431 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
ImageCFC 2.18 released
ImageCFC 2.18 is now available. I tested it with Coldfusion MX 7 on Linux, Coldfusion 8 beta on Windows and Linux, and Bluedragon 7 on Linux. It works much better than 2.17 did. A future version will probably cause image.cfc to act as an "intermediary" to cfimage in Coldfusion 8 to take advantage of the improved performance and image quality available by using cfimage... but for now.. it works :) It's in subversion - http://svn.riaforge.org/imagecfc , and can also be downloaded as a zip file from riaforge as well: http://imagecfc.riaforge.org/index.cfm?event=action.download Rick ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283429 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CF7.0.2 bug: cfform xml, not validating Range.
**BUG** Concise problem statement: Steps to reproduce bug: 1. make a cfform format="xml" 2. use the Range validation example from cfinput MX7 livedoc 3. submit form Results: range is not checked at all. Expected results: range is check just like when format="html" Just reported to Adobe... Are there any more undocumented limitation with cfform format="xml"? ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283428 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Selecting top row in access db
I know this is gunna be something simple... I have a cfc which contains the following query (using access database)... SELECT TOP 1 article.* FROM article WHERE 1=1 AND article_id = AND issue_id = ORDER BY issue_id DESC, order_key The query executes perfectly except that is returns 3 rows instead of one. In the debugging out it shows... qgetArticles (Datasource=GME14211S1A, Time=16ms, Records=3) in C:\CFusionMX\wwwroot\Interface\com\article.cfc @ 10:44:00.000 SELECT TOP 1 article.* FROM article WHERE 1=1 ORDER BY issue_id DESC, order_key What am I doing wrong, as the TOP function is working fine in another query. Regards Mike ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283427 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Can't see the trees for the forest here ...
Hello folks,
I am in need of some enlightenment here with an issue that has me
stumped. I have a from validation script that I use in several forms in
a small personnel editor I built. In one particular page this script is
not firing and I cannot for the life of me see why it's not. The one
thing that seems to somehow play a part in this scenario is a session
variable I set at login: SESSION.Auth.UserRole, this gets set to 1 or 2.
1 is a basic rights level, 2 is full rights. The only place I actually
use this is where I display a set of links to various functions within
the editor. Below is the basic set up for this:
Change my password Change password
now.
Add a New Web Administrator Add New
View All
Registered IP Addresses View in web or as an Excel file.
All Faculty Members Add New Edit/Delete
All Administative Staff Add New Edit/Delete
All Nursing Staff Add New Edit/Delete
Faculty
Members
Add New
Edit/Delete
Administrative
Personnel
Add New
Edit/Delete
Nursing
Staff
Add New
Edit/Delete
The actions for addadminpersonnel and addnursing load the same form with
some conditional stuff for preloading the form if the action is "edit"
yada yada yada.
My script is in the head as shown below:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";>
http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>
Add Member
function validateForm() {
var allOk = true;
var errorString = "The following are required
fields:\n";
// require first name
if (!document.addmember.First_Name.value) {
allOk = false;
errorString += "\n- First Name";
}
// require last name
if (!document.addmember.Last_Name.value) {
allOk = false;
errorString += "\n- Last Name";
}
// require a division before processing the
request
if (!document.addmember.Division.selectedIndex >
0) {
allOk = false;
errorString += "\n- Division";
}
// validate their email
var validEmail =
/^([a-zA-Z0-9_\.\-])+\@(([a-zA-Z0-9\-])+\.)+([a-zA-Z0-9]{2,4})+$/;
if
(!validEmail.test(document.addmember.Email.value)) {
allOk = false;
errorString += "\n- Email Address";
}
if (!allOk)
{
alert(errorString);
return false;
}
return allOk;
}
Trimmed this down but I think you get the idea ...
This just blows past my validation script and can't see why as this same
script is working just fine setup in pretty much the same way, just a
much larger form. Like I mentioned before, the only thing that seems to
be related is SESSION.Auth.UserRole. Email me off list if needed.
TIA!
Bob Imperial
DOM-IS Web Developer
Department of Medicine
125 Macnider Hall, CB 7005
UNC at Chapel Hill Chapel Hill, NC 27599
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Re: 500 Error on SWF files: Logs Follow-Up
Oops. forgot you were on Windows. That explains CFDotNetIntegration. I'm on Mac OSX. Thanks, Aaron On 7/10/07, Cutter (CFRelated) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is on Windows, so I just went to the MMC Services snap in to view > the services, stop those that were running, etc. Default install of the > CFDotNetIntegration (might be wrong name, but it's close) was in the > root of the C:\ drive. > > Steve "Cutter" Blades > Adobe Certified Professional > Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer > _ > http://blog.cutterscrossing.com > > Aaron Roberson wrote: > > Could you share some commands. Also, where is CFDotNetIntergreation > located? > > > > -Aaron > > > > On 7/10/07, Cutter (CFRelated) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I saw several bug trac entries whereby services were not removed (and > in > >> some cases still running) even after uninstall. I had stopped all > >> cf/jrun services (odbc, verity, instances, etc.) prior to doing my > >> uninstall. Verify that these instances, if still in place, are at least > >> stopped. I also deleted the JRun folder, as well as the > >> CFDotNetIntegration, prior to doing my reinstall. > >> > >> Steve "Cutter" Blades > >> Adobe Certified Professional > >> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer > >> _ > >> http://blog.cutterscrossing.com > > > > > > > > ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283425 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: cfoutput acting weird ... need another set of eyes
Sounds to me like cookie.cbadmin contains 1 Russ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:03 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: cfoutput acting weird ... need another set of eyes > > I've got this simple table ... > > > > Vote 6-12 > Months > > > Vote 13-24 > Months > > > > > I've saved and uploaded several times, but the links that are being > produced on the page is ... > http://www.domain.com/rb_new_verified.cfm?cat=1 > > Thanks > > D > > ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283423 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: 500 Error on SWF files: Logs Follow-Up
This is on Windows, so I just went to the MMC Services snap in to view the services, stop those that were running, etc. Default install of the CFDotNetIntegration (might be wrong name, but it's close) was in the root of the C:\ drive. Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Aaron Roberson wrote: > Could you share some commands. Also, where is CFDotNetIntergreation located? > > -Aaron > > On 7/10/07, Cutter (CFRelated) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I saw several bug trac entries whereby services were not removed (and in >> some cases still running) even after uninstall. I had stopped all >> cf/jrun services (odbc, verity, instances, etc.) prior to doing my >> uninstall. Verify that these instances, if still in place, are at least >> stopped. I also deleted the JRun folder, as well as the >> CFDotNetIntegration, prior to doing my reinstall. >> >> Steve "Cutter" Blades >> Adobe Certified Professional >> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer >> _ >> http://blog.cutterscrossing.com > > > ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283424 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfoutput acting weird ... need another set of eyes
dump the cookie and take a look.. perhaps it got saved wrong.. On 7/10/07, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you directly look at the source code on the remote server and > confirm that it contains the code you expect it to? > > > ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283422 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Make PDF from page then email PDF
You can tell the cfdocument tag to save the PDF it generates to a temporary location with a unique name. Then use the mimeattach attribute of the cfmail tag to attach the file to the E-mail. The user won't have to mess with Outlook, or even have Acrobat installed on their machine, as this will all happen server-side. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Make PDF from page then email PDF How would you use CFDocument and CFMail together? I donâEUR(tm)t see a way to take the PDF that CFDocument makes and save it to the file system, or pass it as a variable to CFMailParam. You know I though that Acrobat Reader would allow you to email the PDF once opened in your browser, but I donâEUR(tm)t see this option in acrobat reader. The closest I see is a button called "send to fedex kinkos" and that is not what I want. -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Make PDF from page then email PDF This wouldn't involve outlook, but I don't think you need it. Use cfdocument to create the pdf and cfmail to send the E-mail attaching the pdf to it. Let the user type into a text area whatever they wish to be included in the body of the E-mail. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Make PDF from page then email PDF I have a form that people fill out. When they hit submit I want to make a PDF of data they submitted then pop open an email in outlook with the PDF attached to it. Then all the user has to do is fill in the email to send the PDF to and hit submit. Any suggestions on how to do this? ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283419 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfoutput acting weird ... need another set of eyes
Could you be doing something like: What happens if you dump the cookie scope? --Ben Doom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've got this simple table ... > > > > Vote 6-12 > Months > > > Vote 13-24 > Months > > > > > I've saved and uploaded several times, but the links that are being produced > on the page is ... > http://www.domain.com/rb_new_verified.cfm?cat=1 > > Thanks > > D > > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283421 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfoutput acting weird ... need another set of eyes
>I've saved and uploaded several times, but the links that are being >produced on the page is ... >http://www.domain.com/rb_new_verified.cfm?cat=1 Maybe the 1 string is actually stored in the cookie you're evaluating. It would be hard to set a cookie with that value I think, you would have to have some seriously funky code going on, but that would produce the output you're seeing. Perhaps you could do a simple test to make sure the cookie value is 1 rather than 1. -- Josh - Original Message - From: "Ian Skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:37 PM Subject: Re: cfoutput acting weird ... need another set of eyes > Can you directly look at the source code on the remote server and > confirm that it contains the code you expect it to? > > > ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283420 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: 500 Error on SWF files: Logs Follow-Up
Could you share some commands. Also, where is CFDotNetIntergreation located? -Aaron On 7/10/07, Cutter (CFRelated) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I saw several bug trac entries whereby services were not removed (and in > some cases still running) even after uninstall. I had stopped all > cf/jrun services (odbc, verity, instances, etc.) prior to doing my > uninstall. Verify that these instances, if still in place, are at least > stopped. I also deleted the JRun folder, as well as the > CFDotNetIntegration, prior to doing my reinstall. > > Steve "Cutter" Blades > Adobe Certified Professional > Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer > _ > http://blog.cutterscrossing.com ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283418 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Make PDF from page then email PDF
cfdocument has a name attribute. This will save the binary data into a variable you can then write to the file system. On 7/10/07, Chad Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How would you use CFDocument and CFMail together? > > I don't see a way to take the PDF that CFDocument makes and save it to the > file system, or pass it as a variable to CFMailParam. > > You know I though that Acrobat Reader would allow you to email the PDF once > opened in your browser, but I don't see this option in acrobat reader. The > closest I see is a button called "send to fedex kinkos" and that is not what > I want. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:50 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Make PDF from page then email PDF > > This wouldn't involve outlook, but I don't think you need it. > > Use cfdocument to create the pdf and cfmail to send the E-mail attaching > the pdf to it. > > Let the user type into a text area whatever they wish to be included in > the body of the E-mail. > > ~Brad > > -Original Message- > From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:37 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Make PDF from page then email PDF > > I have a form that people fill out. > > When they hit submit I want to make a PDF of data they submitted then > pop open an email in outlook with the PDF attached to it. > > Then all the user has to do is fill in the email to send the PDF to and > hit submit. > > Any suggestions on how to do this? > > > > > > > ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283417 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: cfoutput acting weird ... need another set of eyes
Can you directly look at the source code on the remote server and confirm that it contains the code you expect it to? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283416 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfoutput acting weird ... need another set of eyes
It's a cfm file. Strange huh. This is basic stuff but it's acting weird. >What the extension of the file you are editing viewing/editing? >.html, or .cfm? > >~Brad ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283414 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Make PDF from page then email PDF
How would you use CFDocument and CFMail together? I donât see a way to take the PDF that CFDocument makes and save it to the file system, or pass it as a variable to CFMailParam. You know I though that Acrobat Reader would allow you to email the PDF once opened in your browser, but I donât see this option in acrobat reader. The closest I see is a button called "send to fedex kinkos" and that is not what I want. -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Make PDF from page then email PDF This wouldn't involve outlook, but I don't think you need it. Use cfdocument to create the pdf and cfmail to send the E-mail attaching the pdf to it. Let the user type into a text area whatever they wish to be included in the body of the E-mail. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Make PDF from page then email PDF I have a form that people fill out. When they hit submit I want to make a PDF of data they submitted then pop open an email in outlook with the PDF attached to it. Then all the user has to do is fill in the email to send the PDF to and hit submit. Any suggestions on how to do this? ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283415 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: 500 Error on SWF files: Logs Follow-Up
I saw several bug trac entries whereby services were not removed (and in some cases still running) even after uninstall. I had stopped all cf/jrun services (odbc, verity, instances, etc.) prior to doing my uninstall. Verify that these instances, if still in place, are at least stopped. I also deleted the JRun folder, as well as the CFDotNetIntegration, prior to doing my reinstall. Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Aaron Roberson wrote: > I did a complete uninstall but I may have messed something up because now I > cannot reinstall. Installer freezes right way, prior to any windows or > anything. > > -Aaron > > On 7/10/07, Cutter (CFRelated) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Aaron, >> >> I had to do a complete uninstall, then reinstall. I'm good (for now). A >> recent message from Adobe, in response to a forum follow-up, states that >> the final Flex Live Cycle Data Services component will ship with the >> release of CF8 (kinda figured that though). >> >> Steve "Cutter" Blades >> Adobe Certified Professional >> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer >> _ >> http://blog.cutterscrossing.com >> >> Aaron Roberson wrote: Maybe this helps point at the culprit? >> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=72&catid=640&threadid=1259685&enterthread=y >>> >>> I downloaded license.jar, stopped the cfusion service, replaced the .jar >>> file, then started cfusion but I still received the same error message. >>> >>> Next step, uninstall CF8 and reinstall. I uninstalled CF8, but now when >> I >>> try to reinstall CF8 the installer freezes right away. I'm in a worse >>> position now than when I started. >>> >>> I tried downloading the beta again, extracting it, and installing, but >> keep >>> getting the same problem. >>> >>> A file called "cfinstall_err" is created on my desktop when I double >> click >>> the installer and it has the following line: >>> IAResourceBundle: create resource bundle: en >>> >>> ? >>> >>> >>> >> > > ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283413 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: cfoutput acting weird ... need another set of eyes
What the extension of the file you are editing viewing/editing? ..html, or .cfm? ~Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: cfoutput acting weird ... need another set of eyes I've got this simple table ... Vote 6-12 Months Vote 13-24 Months I've saved and uploaded several times, but the links that are being produced on the page is ... http://www.domain.com/rb_new_verified.cfm?cat=1 Thanks D ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283412 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfoutput acting weird ... need another set of eyes
> I've saved and uploaded several times, but the links that are being > produced on the page is ... > http://www.domain.com/rb_new_verified.cfm?cat=1 Shouldn't it be... ? > http://www.domain.com/rb_new_verified.cfm?cat=1 ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283411 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
cfoutput acting weird ... need another set of eyes
I've got this simple table ... Vote 6-12 Months Vote 13-24 Months I've saved and uploaded several times, but the links that are being produced on the page is ... http://www.domain.com/rb_new_verified.cfm?cat=1 Thanks D ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283410 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Make PDF from page then email PDF
This wouldn't involve outlook, but I don't think you need it. Use cfdocument to create the pdf and cfmail to send the E-mail attaching the pdf to it. Let the user type into a text area whatever they wish to be included in the body of the E-mail. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Make PDF from page then email PDF I have a form that people fill out. When they hit submit I want to make a PDF of data they submitted then pop open an email in outlook with the PDF attached to it. Then all the user has to do is fill in the email to send the PDF to and hit submit. Any suggestions on how to do this? ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283409 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Make PDF from page then email PDF
I have a form that people fill out. When they hit submit I want to make a PDF of data they submitted then pop open an email in outlook with the PDF attached to it. Then all the user has to do is fill in the email to send the PDF to and hit submit. Any suggestions on how to do this? ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283408 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Executing Code in a CFINCLUDE within CFMAIL
That's what I've always done - much cleaner. But - it does in fact work on V5, so that's what I'd say is the solution. I've had "funny" things happen with tag processing inside of CFMAIL. -reed >Am not sure about an include inside the cfmail, never done it. But theory >says it should, but practical who knows. > >I have always done > > > > > >But as he said Coldfusion V5.0, that is way out of the question. > > >On 7/10/07, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283407 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: 500 Error on SWF files: Logs Follow-Up
I did a complete uninstall but I may have messed something up because now I cannot reinstall. Installer freezes right way, prior to any windows or anything. -Aaron On 7/10/07, Cutter (CFRelated) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Aaron, > > I had to do a complete uninstall, then reinstall. I'm good (for now). A > recent message from Adobe, in response to a forum follow-up, states that > the final Flex Live Cycle Data Services component will ship with the > release of CF8 (kinda figured that though). > > Steve "Cutter" Blades > Adobe Certified Professional > Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer > _ > http://blog.cutterscrossing.com > > Aaron Roberson wrote: > >> Maybe this helps point at the culprit? > >> > >> > >> > http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=72&catid=640&threadid=1259685&enterthread=y > > > > > > I downloaded license.jar, stopped the cfusion service, replaced the .jar > > file, then started cfusion but I still received the same error message. > > > > Next step, uninstall CF8 and reinstall. I uninstalled CF8, but now when > I > > try to reinstall CF8 the installer freezes right away. I'm in a worse > > position now than when I started. > > > > I tried downloading the beta again, extracting it, and installing, but > keep > > getting the same problem. > > > > A file called "cfinstall_err" is created on my desktop when I double > click > > the installer and it has the following line: > > IAResourceBundle: create resource bundle: en > > > > ? > > > > > > > > ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283406 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: verity: CF MX 6.1 recordcount neq recordssearched
>From memory I believe the doccount was/is available in 6.x "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden To: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Jul 10 19:18:44 2007 Subject: Re: verity: CF MX 6.1 recordcount neq recordssearched Oh you probably did. I'm a bit slow. Really wish I could help you out. On 7/10/07, John Stottlemire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I appologize, I thought I put CF 6.1 with updater 1 in my original post. > > >Oh - you are on cf6 then? As far as I know it should have shown you > >the doc count in cf7 or higher. At this point I'm at a loss then. Most > >of my Verity experience is with 7 and higher, where all the cool stuff > >was added. ;) > > > >On 7/10/07, John Stottlemire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283405 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: verity: CF MX 6.1 recordcount neq recordssearched
Oh you probably did. I'm a bit slow. Really wish I could help you out. On 7/10/07, John Stottlemire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I appologize, I thought I put CF 6.1 with updater 1 in my original post. > > >Oh - you are on cf6 then? As far as I know it should have shown you > >the doc count in cf7 or higher. At this point I'm at a loss then. Most > >of my Verity experience is with 7 and higher, where all the cool stuff > >was added. ;) > > > >On 7/10/07, John Stottlemire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283404 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
SPRY Upload
I am trying to make a page with spry that never has to reload the page. Just reloads the data in datasets etc. But on one tab I need to do an upload. How can I upload a file without refreshing the page and is cross platform compatible? and free :) ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283403 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: 500 Error on SWF files: Logs Follow-Up
Aaron, I had to do a complete uninstall, then reinstall. I'm good (for now). A recent message from Adobe, in response to a forum follow-up, states that the final Flex Live Cycle Data Services component will ship with the release of CF8 (kinda figured that though). Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Aaron Roberson wrote: >> Maybe this helps point at the culprit? >> >> >> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=72&catid=640&threadid=1259685&enterthread=y > > > I downloaded license.jar, stopped the cfusion service, replaced the .jar > file, then started cfusion but I still received the same error message. > > Next step, uninstall CF8 and reinstall. I uninstalled CF8, but now when I > try to reinstall CF8 the installer freezes right away. I'm in a worse > position now than when I started. > > I tried downloading the beta again, extracting it, and installing, but keep > getting the same problem. > > A file called "cfinstall_err" is created on my desktop when I double click > the installer and it has the following line: > IAResourceBundle: create resource bundle: en > > ? > > > ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283402 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: verity: CF MX 6.1 recordcount neq recordssearched
I appologize, I thought I put CF 6.1 with updater 1 in my original post. >Oh - you are on cf6 then? As far as I know it should have shown you >the doc count in cf7 or higher. At this point I'm at a loss then. Most >of my Verity experience is with 7 and higher, where all the cool stuff >was added. ;) > >On 7/10/07, John Stottlemire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283401 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: verity: CF MX 6.1 recordcount neq recordssearched
Oh - you are on cf6 then? As far as I know it should have shown you the doc count in cf7 or higher. At this point I'm at a loss then. Most of my Verity experience is with 7 and higher, where all the cool stuff was added. ;) On 7/10/07, John Stottlemire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > EXTERNAL LANGUAGE MAPPED NAME ONLINE PATH REGISTERED > 1 NO english NO collection1 YES C:\CFusionMX\verity\collections\ CF > 2 NO english NO collection2 YES C:\CFusionMX\verity\collections\ CF > > > >Hmm, I wonder if that was added to CF8 then. Try running CFCOLLECTION > >action=list, and tell me what doccount you see there. > > > >On 7/10/07, John Stottlemire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283400 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: 500 Error on SWF files: Logs Follow-Up
> Maybe this helps point at the culprit? > > > http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=72&catid=640&threadid=1259685&enterthread=y I downloaded license.jar, stopped the cfusion service, replaced the .jar file, then started cfusion but I still received the same error message. Next step, uninstall CF8 and reinstall. I uninstalled CF8, but now when I try to reinstall CF8 the installer freezes right away. I'm in a worse position now than when I started. I tried downloading the beta again, extracting it, and installing, but keep getting the same problem. A file called "cfinstall_err" is created on my desktop when I double click the installer and it has the following line: IAResourceBundle: create resource bundle: en ? ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283399 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: verity: CF MX 6.1 recordcount neq recordssearched
EXTERNAL LANGUAGE MAPPED NAME ONLINE PATH REGISTERED 1 NO english NO collection1 YES C:\CFusionMX\verity\collections\ CF 2 NO english NO collection2 YES C:\CFusionMX\verity\collections\ CF >Hmm, I wonder if that was added to CF8 then. Try running CFCOLLECTION >action=list, and tell me what doccount you see there. > >On 7/10/07, John Stottlemire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283398 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: verity: CF MX 6.1 recordcount neq recordssearched
Hmm, I wonder if that was added to CF8 then. Try running CFCOLLECTION action=list, and tell me what doccount you see there. On 7/10/07, John Stottlemire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Answer - I just checked Admin/Verity Collections and do not see a way to see > the document count. I've been getting the "recordssearched" by doing a > cfsearch without the criteria and then a cfdump. > > > > Question - how are you checking the size of the verity collection? I > > assume you are checking in the admin, looking at Document Count, > > right? > > > > On 7/9/07, John Stottlemire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > the key field in the cfindex = the primary key of the database table > > (I don't think its duplicate keys). > > > > > > I purge the collection, do the query, update the collection and the > > difference in recordcount / recordssearched is always recordcount - > > 51 > > > > > > the primary key is an "identity" and increments by 1. if I order by > > primary key desc then the first 51 primary key records are missing > > from the collection, if I order by primary key asc then the last 51 > > primary key records are missing from the collection. > > > > > -- > ==> = > > Raymond Camden, Camden Media > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Blog : ray.camdenfamily.com > > AOL IM : > cfjedimaster > > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283397 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: verity: CF MX 6.1 recordcount neq recordssearched
Answer - I just checked Admin/Verity Collections and do not see a way to see the document count. I've been getting the "recordssearched" by doing a cfsearch without the criteria and then a cfdump. > Question - how are you checking the size of the verity collection? I > assume you are checking in the admin, looking at Document Count, > right? > > On 7/9/07, John Stottlemire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the key field in the cfindex = the primary key of the database table > (I don't think its duplicate keys). > > > > I purge the collection, do the query, update the collection and the > difference in recordcount / recordssearched is always recordcount - > 51 > > > > the primary key is an "identity" and increments by 1. if I order by > primary key desc then the first 51 primary key records are missing > from the collection, if I order by primary key asc then the last 51 > primary key records are missing from the collection. > > > -- ==> = > Raymond Camden, Camden Media > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Blog : ray.camdenfamily.com > AOL IM : cfjedimaster ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283396 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Ant Logging
Thanks John Paul. I'm running my build directly from within Eclipse, so I'm just trying to figure it all out. Currently the console gives me a running tally, but it ends up truncated so I'm really trying to figure out how to get a flat-file log of all actions taken. I am currently doing a SVN export to a temp directory, then doing a sync between the temp and my live code base. I'm still trying to figure out how to manage exclusions as well. Exclusions by file (e.g.: .fla files, etc.) are fairly easy, but trying to figure directory exclusions is giving me fits. I'm just not finding very well documented examples (but I'll be blogging it all once I figure it all out...) Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com John Paul Ashenfelter wrote: > ant -v gives a lot of information while ant is running (eg every > action performed by the SVN task instead of [svn] checkout > started/stopped). If you're running automatically you can pipe that to > a file or use one of the listeners to write more sophisticated logs > > On 7/10/07, Cutter (CFRelated) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Quick questions for those in the know. We're beginning to use Ant for >> our deployment process. I'm trying to figure out how to get a log of the >> file system changes that Ant performs during a sync operation (or a log >> of any operation for that matter). Any suggestions? Pointers in the >> right direction? >> >> -- >> Steve 'Cutter' Blades >> Adobe Certified Expert >> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer >> >> http://blog.cutterscrossing.com >> >> "The best way to predict the future is to help create it" >> >> > > ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283395 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Best way to read a zip file?
This is worth a try too: http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=787 Massimo Foti, web-programmer for hire Tools for ColdFusion and Dreamweaver developers: http://www.massimocorner.com ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283394 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: WebDAV
Thank you for pointing me in the right direction, Dave. -Scott >> How well does CF interact with WebDAV? I've been given the >> task to upload files through WebDAV and have been having a >> hard time finding information on it. Is it possible? > >What exactly do you mean by "interact"? > >WebDAV is a web server thing. IIS and Apache both provide WebDAV >functionality. CF can interact with remote WebDAV servers via CFHTTP sunce >6.1. ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283393 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Query Error: Duplicate entry?
>>There is already a check to see if the basket exists before adding the item, so shouldn't be a duplicate basket id. Is there a lock from the time the basket is checket and the query is done? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283392 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF8 500 error
Hi Steve, I think my JRun has been expired because of selecting "30 day trial" on installation. I am working on now on our CF7 intranet server and I can wait until "Monday". :) Sincerely, OÄuz Demirkapı -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF8 500 error There were several threads, because of minor title changes. My errors (and those of others) were related to an internal component also being beta, and that beta expiring. This can be confirmed by turning your system clock back a month, restarting your cf service, and trying the page again. My issue was related to any .swf file being passed to the Live Cycle DataServices SwfServlet (ANY swf file, not just Flex made files). I received an email this morning assuring me that it won't be a 'beta' component on CF8 release. A complete removal and reinstall of my development environment has repaired the issue (at least until the LCDS beta expires again). Hope this helps. Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283391 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: verity: CF MX 6.1 recordcount neq recordssearched
Question - how are you checking the size of the verity collection? I assume you are checking in the admin, looking at Document Count, right? On 7/9/07, John Stottlemire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the key field in the cfindex = the primary key of the database table (I don't > think its duplicate keys). > > I purge the collection, do the query, update the collection and the > difference in recordcount / recordssearched is always recordcount - 51 > > the primary key is an "identity" and increments by 1. if I order by primary > key desc then the first 51 primary key records are missing from the > collection, if I order by primary key asc then the last 51 primary key > records are missing from the collection. > -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : ray.camdenfamily.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283390 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Best way to read a zip file?
You could try using COM #theFile.Size# Dump #fso# and #theFile# for more goodies. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Johnny Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 6:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Best way to read a zip file? Hi, What is the best way to find out the size (in bytes) of a zip file? I use cffile to read it and then use the len() method but this is so insufficient. When the zip file is reaching 100 MB, it crashes my server. java.util.zip.ZipFile has a size() method, but it says it returns the number of entries in the zip file instead of size in bytes. So I don't know what to do. Help, please! Thanks. Johnny ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283389 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Ant Logging
ant -v gives a lot of information while ant is running (eg every action performed by the SVN task instead of [svn] checkout started/stopped). If you're running automatically you can pipe that to a file or use one of the listeners to write more sophisticated logs On 7/10/07, Cutter (CFRelated) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quick questions for those in the know. We're beginning to use Ant for > our deployment process. I'm trying to figure out how to get a log of the > file system changes that Ant performs during a sync operation (or a log > of any operation for that matter). Any suggestions? Pointers in the > right direction? > > -- > Steve 'Cutter' Blades > Adobe Certified Expert > Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer > > http://blog.cutterscrossing.com > > "The best way to predict the future is to help create it" > > ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283388 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: IE7 CSS Bug - can't select text
Hey Russ,
I managed to make a small tweak to the styling of the example you gave and
was then able to select the text. Changed:
#SidebarNavigation{
position: absolute;
right: 8px; /* must be equal to the body's margin-right */
width: 207px;
padding: 8px;
border-right: 3px solid black;}
To this:
#SidebarNavigation{
right: 8px; /* must be equal to the body's margin-right */
width: 207px;
padding: 8px;
border-right: 3px solid black;
float:right;}
The point being that position absolute is not neccessary in this case. You
can position absolutley with widths and floats. Not sure about your case of
course.
Hope that helps,
Dominic
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RE: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
Dale... I recommend looking up Hal Helms presentation on OO at this year's CFUnited. He made some compelling reasons why CF should never become a pure OO language. The CFUnited website will soon have MP3 files of each of the presentations. Andy matthews -Original Message- From: Dale Fraser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO? Ray, I look forward to your post. We write code where each cfc is an object which has a constructor, create instances of these, have them inherit from others, override methods and so on. What type of programming is this, if not OO? I don't see how this could be procedural. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2007 12:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO? Yeah, I'm going to stand by my assertions. I'm sure I could run a survey and get #s in the total opposite direction. I promised Dale that I'd open the discussion up on my blog, and I will. (Not to say it can't happen here, but as it started on my blog, I'd like to talk about it there as well.) On 7/9/07, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >So ColdFusion is Object Oriented after all, I have always thought so > >and am supported by the numbers > > Just a quick point here, a simple informal poll isn't going to provide > you with any statistical significance. You think CF is OO and some > people agree > with you that's about all you can honestly say by this. Interesting results, > thanks for doing the poll. > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dale Fraser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:09 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO? > > After reading a Blog Entry of Ray Camden, in a general comment, he > made this > statement. > > "CF is not OO. CF should NOT be OO. And lastly, I pray to God that CF never > becomes OO." > > I didn't agree, I actually think ColdFusion is OO, and thought that > view especially from Ray was odd, then I thought, well perhaps I have > it wrong, perhaps CF is not OO and i'm the only one who thinks it is. > So I ran a Survey, posted to both cftalk and cfaussie. > > The results are quite interesting. > > 1. Do you consider ColdFusion to be Object Oriented? > Yes: 66% > No: 34% > > 2. What percentage do you think ColdFusion achieves the ability to > code OO style. > 0-20%: 2% > 20-40%: 4% > 40-60%: 24% > 60-80%: 44% > 80-100%: 26% > > 3. Would you like the Adobe ColdFusion team to further develop > ColdFusion OO > features? > Yes: 58% > No: 42% > > 4. What is the number one feature missing from ColdFusion from an OO > point of view? > None / Pass: 52% > Overloading: 16% > Constructors: 10% > Overriding: 4% > Interfaces: 4% > Multiple Inheritance: 2% > Serialization: 2% > Other: 10% > > That last one was free text, so I combined a lot of dumb answers into > None / > Pass and lots of single votes into Other. I consider that CF already > does Overriding, but I left it in the stats and CF8 does Interfaces > but I left it > in also. > > But here is my summary of the survey > > Of the people surveyed 66% of people think that ColdFusion is an > Object Oriented language, 70% of people think that the OO features are > between 60-100%, just over half 58% of people think more development > needs to be done and the main two things missing are Overloading and Constructors. > > So ColdFusion is Object Oriented after all, I have always thought so > and am > supported by the numbers, we here code our entire application in a OO > way so > to me it was a no brainer. You could read deeper that if Adobe just > added Overloading and Constructors that the CF OO feel would be almost > complete but then again 52% of people passed on what the main missing feature was. > > Regards > Dale Fraser > > > > > > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283385 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
I'd agree...ColdFusion is strong as it is now. Of course it can be improved, but if Adobe adds too many of these "advanced" language constructs in, then ColdFusion will lose what made it popular in the first place. Namely the ability to rapidly develop internet applications. -Original Message- From: Steve Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO? Definitely some interesting results. I'll simply add my voice to mix and say that ColdFusion is absolutely, positively, not an OO language. Granted, Macromedia and Adobe have added some great features that allow us to mimic the elements of OO, but in essence all they've done is expose a very limited set of features that apply to Java. Yes, ColdFusion Components mimic classes, and have a facsimile of a constructor, but neither is really true. The features that have been added over the years make ColdFusion an extremely good doppleganger of a pure OO language. - Overloading - Generics - Method overriding - Static methods - And most importantly, it's not typed (i.e. you can't cast a Sphere CFC as a Ball CFC, among a myriad of other possibilities) Without these concepts, and many more, CF does a great job of exposing the most commonly used features of OO while leaving the nitty gritty behind the scenes - which is exactly where it belongs. Because of all this, I soundly iterate Ray's comment... "...I pray to God that CF never becomes OO." I don't want it to be. I like ColdFusion. p.s. They've added in interfaces to Scorpio. Steve Brownlee http://www.fusioncube.net > -Original Message- > From: Dale Fraser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:09 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO? > > After reading a Blog Entry of Ray Camden, in a general comment, he > made this statement. > > "CF is not OO. CF should NOT be OO. And lastly, I pray to God that CF > never becomes OO." > > I didn't agree, I actually think ColdFusion is OO, and thought that > view especially from Ray was odd, then I thought, well perhaps I have > it wrong, perhaps CF is not OO and i'm the only one who thinks it is. > So I ran a Survey, posted to both cftalk and cfaussie. > > The results are quite interesting. ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283386 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Creating an in-out application w spry/CF
On Tuesday 10 Jul 2007, Andrew Scott wrote: > Every technology will require a poll to the server, to pull the data in... Not LCDS to a Flex application... -- Tom Chiverton Helping to vitalistically envisioneer eigth-generation methodologies on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283384 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
JRUN JMC datasource in CFM file
Hi Is it possible to use the Datasource defined in Jrun admin console(JMC) in Coldfusioon template. if yes how to do that ? when i use that i am getting error Data source not found ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283383 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
>Smackdown... Boo ya. > >Just don't get Sean started on Interfaces :-p Or tell him you want to duplicate() a component. :) ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283382 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
OT: MSSQL 2000 Code review and best practices
Hey all, For quite a while now, the group I work in has been doing code reviews of our ColdFusion code through the use of a code review tool to pick up the major stuff, then peer review to get the logic/other problems. Now we have to start doing it for SQL code. Does anyone know of any code review tool for SQL Server stored procedures? How about any best practices for sql code? Thanks, Steve ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283381 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Creating an in-out application w spry/CF
The easy way 1. Have a hidden I frame on the page that refreshes every X seconds, and when it finds something new refreshes the main page 2. Use Ajax call on a Javascript Timer to check the server every X seconds 3. Use Flex push technology PS: 2 & 3 will be much easier in CF8. These are the easy options, 1. Is the easiest as there is no learning curve, 2 isnt much harder. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2007 9:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Creating an in-out application w spry/CF Every technology will require a poll to the server, to pull the data in... On 7/10/07, Tom King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a project: > I need to create an in and out board (i.e a webpage/application which > sits on a tablet PC by an entrance to a building); > The app needs to show a list of names, populated from a MySQL > database, and on click, update the time signed in to the database, > and change the color of the name to indicate whether they're in the > building - that part is easy - however, the app needs to work > multiple machines: > > Hence, you have data which needs to be "pushed" out to the other > devices on the other entrances, so the record of when someone is "in" > or "out" is identical. > > Previously, this has been done by making every click a form > submission, and then each version of the page would use a Meta > refresh every 30 seconds to update their displays; > > There's got to be a cooler way of doing this: Any ideas? > > Spry/Flex/Flash may be the way forward, and I'm intending to use it > as a training exercise, so willing to learn, but would like a nudge > in the right direction! > > Ta > T > > > ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283380 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Creating an in-out application w spry/CF
Every technology will require a poll to the server, to pull the data in... On 7/10/07, Tom King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a project: > I need to create an in and out board (i.e a webpage/application which > sits on a tablet PC by an entrance to a building); > The app needs to show a list of names, populated from a MySQL > database, and on click, update the time signed in to the database, > and change the color of the name to indicate whether they're in the > building - that part is easy - however, the app needs to work > multiple machines: > > Hence, you have data which needs to be "pushed" out to the other > devices on the other entrances, so the record of when someone is "in" > or "out" is identical. > > Previously, this has been done by making every click a form > submission, and then each version of the page would use a Meta > refresh every 30 seconds to update their displays; > > There's got to be a cooler way of doing this: Any ideas? > > Spry/Flex/Flash may be the way forward, and I'm intending to use it > as a training exercise, so willing to learn, but would like a nudge > in the right direction! > > Ta > T > > > ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283378 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFHTTP connection failure
Looks like the code is returning "connection failure" in the content as the server says "200 OK" They must be detecting session vars. HTTP/1.1 200 OK Connection: close Expires: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 00:00:00 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:23:45 GMT Server: Apache X-Powered-By: PHP/5.0.4 Pragma: no-cache Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate Set-Cookie: PHPSESSID=21a634b17c01d961b5ddd5fd284a43f6; path=/ Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1; - Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:04 PM Subject: CFHTTP connection failure > I'm trying to use the following code: > > url="http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Stats.VirusDailyStats"; > method="Get" > useragent="Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; > rv:1.8.0.2) Gecko/20060308 Firefox/1.5.0.2"> > > > > To get get the zero day summary for tracking purposes, but I keep > getting a "CFHTTP Connection Failure" message. I'm using CF 7. I > can do the following: > > http://www.google.ca"; method="Get" > useragent="Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; > rv:1.8.0.2) Gecko/20060308 Firefox/1.5.0.2"> > > > > with no problems, but any time I try to access > http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki I get the connection failure. So > I'm assuming it has something to do with their server configuration, > but I can't figure it out. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > T > > > ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283379 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Executing Code in a CFINCLUDE within CFMAIL
Am not sure about an include inside the cfmail, never done it. But theory says it should, but practical who knows. I have always done But as he said Coldfusion V5.0, that is way out of the question. On 7/10/07, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 10 Jul 2007, Andrew Scott wrote: > > Nope he meant the other way around.. > > Difficult to tell without his code, really. > Either should work though, right ? > > -- > Tom Chiverton > Helping to revolutionarily conquer second-generation architectures > on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com > > > > This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. > > Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England > and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address > is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is > available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a > partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. > Regulated by the Law Society. > > CONFIDENTIALITY > > This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and > may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you > must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it > nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its > existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please > delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. > > For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. > > > ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283377 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Init method and getters / setters in cfc
Thanks Brian, I didn't realize there was a variables.instance structure =) Here is the lowdown I got from everyone's comments: If I was working either with a team, using coldspring, or working on a large project or public facing components, I would probably generate individual getters / setters for each internal value I would want to work with. As many have mentioned, this makes the component self documenting and adds type checking. The project I am working on now simply requires that I be able to use this for several different sub-companies down the road, and the only one that will touch this code (at least in the foreseeable future) is me. I have an init method that accepts a structure to setup all datasources and other per-company settings, so I think my generic getter / setter should work fine in this instance. Thanks to everyone for their reply's, I always learn something new. =) Chris Peterson Gainey IT Adobe Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer -Original Message- From: Brian Kotek Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Init method and getters / setters in cfc It's so trivial to generate the code for getters and setters that I don't really see the point in having generic getters and setters like this. As Ben says, you lose the API for your component. You have no type checking (if that's your thing). You lose the ability to seamlessly change the getter or setter later if the need arises. And if you want to use ColdSpring to inject dependencies, you're either out of luck, or almost as bad, you have a mixed API where some properties have their own setters and others use the generic setter. Also, an aside, there's no reason to use Evaluate() here. Just do . Regards, Brian ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283376 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CFHTTP connection failure
I'm trying to use the following code: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Stats.VirusDailyStats"; method="Get" useragent="Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.2) Gecko/20060308 Firefox/1.5.0.2"> To get get the zero day summary for tracking purposes, but I keep getting a "CFHTTP Connection Failure" message. I'm using CF 7. I can do the following: http://www.google.ca"; method="Get" useragent="Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.2) Gecko/20060308 Firefox/1.5.0.2"> with no problems, but any time I try to access http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki I get the connection failure. So I'm assuming it has something to do with their server configuration, but I can't figure it out. Thanks in advance for any help. T ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283375 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Ant Logging
Quick questions for those in the know. We're beginning to use Ant for our deployment process. I'm trying to figure out how to get a log of the file system changes that Ant performs during a sync operation (or a log of any operation for that matter). Any suggestions? Pointers in the right direction? -- Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://blog.cutterscrossing.com "The best way to predict the future is to help create it" ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283374 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: strange character entities in CF... on form submission...
Unicode!!! Make sure a) your html header has utf-8 in it - the form may also need to be told a specific char set; - Dump the form contents on submission: are the chars there? b) if in inserting into a database, that the database is set up with Unicode, look at the SQL - is it inserting the chars? c) check the output - is the DB outputting the chars? T On 10 Jul 2007, at 11:12, D F wrote: > Anyone have any ideas... essentially we are getting ( just ahead of > the pound character ) an A with a hat. Â ( capital a, circumflex > accent,Â,Â) Any ideas how to prevent this one from > happening? > > It seems to be doing this on form submissions. > > ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283373 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Creating an in-out application w spry/CF
I have a project: I need to create an in and out board (i.e a webpage/application which sits on a tablet PC by an entrance to a building); The app needs to show a list of names, populated from a MySQL database, and on click, update the time signed in to the database, and change the color of the name to indicate whether they're in the building - that part is easy - however, the app needs to work multiple machines: Hence, you have data which needs to be "pushed" out to the other devices on the other entrances, so the record of when someone is "in" or "out" is identical. Previously, this has been done by making every click a form submission, and then each version of the page would use a Meta refresh every 30 seconds to update their displays; There's got to be a cooler way of doing this: Any ideas? Spry/Flex/Flash may be the way forward, and I'm intending to use it as a training exercise, so willing to learn, but would like a nudge in the right direction! Ta T ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283372 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Executing Code in a CFINCLUDE within CFMAIL
On Tuesday 10 Jul 2007, Andrew Scott wrote: > Nope he meant the other way around.. Difficult to tell without his code, really. Either should work though, right ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to revolutionarily conquer second-generation architectures on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283371 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
strange character entities in CF... on form submission...
Anyone have any ideas... essentially we are getting ( just ahead of the pound character ) an A with a hat. Ã ( capital a, circumflex accent,Â,Â) Any ideas how to prevent this one from happening? It seems to be doing this on form submissions. ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283370 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Query Error: Duplicate entry?
stylo stylo wrote: > > Query Error: Duplicate entry '75A8BA37-2B3E-7F0C-15E97C353E23FA73_100' for > key 1 Datasource: Native Error Code: 1062 SQL State: 23000 Executing > SQL: INSERT INTO ... > > There is already a check to see if the basket exists before adding the item, > so shouldn't be a duplicate basket id. Apparently there is something wrong with that check. Jochem ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283369 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Query Error: Duplicate entry?
Does anyone know why I might get this sometimes? Mysql: Query Error: Duplicate entry '75A8BA37-2B3E-7F0C-15E97C353E23FA73_100' for key 1 Datasource: Native Error Code: 1062 SQL State: 23000 Executing SQL: INSERT INTO ... Normally works fine so I don't understand it and google does help much. There is already a check to see if the basket exists before adding the item, so shouldn't be a duplicate basket id. ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283368 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
On Tuesday 10 Jul 2007, Sean Corfield wrote: > That just makes it object-based. However, it has inheritance, > polymorphism (because it has dynamic dispatch via inheritance) and > encapsulation (public / private data & methods). That is what makes it > OO. Your memory of CompSci 101 is better than mine :-) > Yes, which was partly why I said the survey was loaded... Saw that, but didn't want to affect the survey. > Technically that's not overloading. Overloading is specifically > multiple functions with the same name. Overload resolution - the > process of figuring out the best match function to call - is a complex > algorithm that you cannot reasonably implement at runtime without a > big performance hit. bar(a:String) and bar(a:Array) as opposed to bar(a:any) ? I think I was thinking of polymorphism. > Constructors are just methods with a name determined by convention. In other OO languages, the constructor is always called (or has to be called by the parent code) doesn't it ? This is not the case with init(). > > > Multiple Inheritance: 2% > > > > You do not want this. It's the wrong solution to composition. > > Well, actually there are situations where multiple inheritance is a > very elegant solution - in a statically typed language. However, > dynamic languages tend to solve this using runtime mixins instead - > which is the "correct" elegant solution for dynamically typed > languages. You're explanation was much better than mine :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to synergistically cultivate one-to-one features on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283367 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
On Tuesday 10 Jul 2007, Sean Corfield wrote: > In ColdFusion, all type checking is done at run time. So if you use > interfaces, you will get a *runtime* check, just like all the other > checks. And if you screw up, you'll get a runtime error. If you use > interfaces, the error just has different text in it (OK, that's a > *slight* oversimplification :) I want Interfaces so I can aid other developers intergrating with my code- it explictly codes the contract. > Furthermore, since CF is a dynamic language, you can change methods on > an object after constructing it, thus removing any guarantees that an > interface would buy you. You remove a method or simply replace a > method with a different signature. The interface no longer applies. I *think* CF8's IsInstanceOf() will still throw an error if you've broken the contract. > interfaces - and don't need them. The only reason CF8 has interfaces > is to satisfy the CF-should-be-more-like-Java crowd. In general, it should not be 'java lite' - it should be it's own thing that makes hard stuff easy. But, people are building fairly complicated stacks of components, and Interfaces give you a measure of control. I don't need to worry about the contents of Bob's bar.cfc he just gave me - it extends an Interface so I can drop it straight in. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to carefully lead third-generation channels on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283366 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
On 7/10/07, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It has createObject(), which can make things with properties and methods -
> therefore it has objects, therefore it's OO.
That just makes it object-based. However, it has inheritance,
polymorphism (because it has dynamic dispatch via inheritance) and
encapsulation (public / private data & methods). That is what makes it
OO.
> A no brainer 'yes' as the question is just 'do you want ColdFusion to have
> more features'. It does not say 'at the expense of non-OO features (like
> cfprint)', which would be far less likely to get a positive response.
Yes, which was partly why I said the survey was loaded...
> CF already has overloading (don't give cfargument a type parameter, or leave
> out cfargument all together) - so I'd love to hear from people who plumbed
> for that one :-)
Technically that's not overloading. Overloading is specifically
multiple functions with the same name. Overload resolution - the
process of figuring out the best match function to call - is a complex
algorithm that you cannot reasonably implement at runtime without a
big performance hit.
> I went for Constructors myself, as all we've got is a sort of half-baked
> almost by accident convention.
Constructors are just methods with a name determined by convention.
Not all languages name them to match the class name. The only general
benefit of "built-in" constructors is that there is usually some
shorthand in the syntax for constructing objects:
new Some.Type(args)
rather than:
new("Some.Type").init(args)
And, as I point out at every opportunity, when CF deals with Java, it
uses init() as a way to call Java's constructors (which are just
methods with specific names!).
> > Multiple Inheritance: 2%
> You do not want this. It's the wrong solution to composition.
Well, actually there are situations where multiple inheritance is a
very elegant solution - in a statically typed language. However,
dynamic languages tend to solve this using runtime mixins instead -
which is the "correct" elegant solution for dynamically typed
languages.
--
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Re: Executing Code in a CFINCLUDE within CFMAIL
Nope he meant the other way around.. b.cfm: #now()# a.cfm: On 7/10/07, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 09 Jul 2007, K Simanonok wrote: > > > I am trying to get CF code to run inside a CFMAIL tag where the code > > > is called by a CFINCLUDE. There are plenty of historical examples > > > here showing how people have done it in the past, but when I reproduce > > > their code all that gets emailed is the bare code, > > What code is this then ? Something like: > > a.cfm: > > > b.cfm: > > #now()# > > > ? > > -- > Tom Chiverton > Helping to seamlessly pursue back-end communities > on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com > > > > This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. > > Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England > and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address > is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is > available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a > partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. > Regulated by the Law Society. > > CONFIDENTIALITY > > This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and > may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you > must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it > nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its > existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please > delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. > > For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283364 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
On 7/10/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sean why are you so against this? I welcome this with great open arms... Java needed interfaces because it is a statically typed language and had chosen not to support multiple inheritance. It had no choice. In ColdFusion, all type checking is done at run time. So if you use interfaces, you will get a *runtime* check, just like all the other checks. And if you screw up, you'll get a runtime error. If you use interfaces, the error just has different text in it (OK, that's a *slight* oversimplification :) Furthermore, since CF is a dynamic language, you can change methods on an object after constructing it, thus removing any guarantees that an interface would buy you. You remove a method or simply replace a method with a different signature. The interface no longer applies. Then there's the actual details of how cfinterface performs its type check. It requires that the function signatures match exactly, as do the return types. That's not how interfaces work in statically typed languages. An interface defines a constraining API, not an exact API: you can specify arguments (in an implementation class method) that are compatible with the interface method arguments (e.g., adding optional arguments or using more permissive types). You can also specify more constrained return types since those can't violate the interface (i.e., an implementation method can return a subtype of the interface method's return type). Finally (thank god you say!), other dynamic OO languages don't have interfaces - and don't need them. The only reason CF8 has interfaces is to satisfy the CF-should-be-more-like-Java crowd. And, yes, I admit I was the person who entered the original ER to add interfaces and, yes, I whipped up support from the community. I regret that. I should have left well alone. I've probably done more to cause the CF-should-be-more-like-Java argument than anyone and that was a big mistake on my part. I've seen the light now... I hope others do too... -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283363 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
On Tuesday 10 Jul 2007, Dale Fraser wrote: (now the poll has closed, I want to comment on your questions) > 1. Do you consider ColdFusion to be Object Oriented? It has createObject(), which can make things with properties and methods - therefore it has objects, therefore it's OO. I'd love to talk to people who said no. > 2. What percentage do you think ColdFusion achieves the ability to code OO > style. See 1. > 3. Would you like the Adobe ColdFusion team to further develop ColdFusion > OO features? A no brainer 'yes' as the question is just 'do you want ColdFusion to have more features'. It does not say 'at the expense of non-OO features (like cfprint)', which would be far less likely to get a positive response. > 4. What is the number one feature missing from ColdFusion from an OO point > of view? > None / Pass: 52% > Overloading: 16% > Constructors: 10% CF already has overloading (don't give cfargument a type parameter, or leave out cfargument all together) - so I'd love to hear from people who plumbed for that one :-) I went for Constructors myself, as all we've got is a sort of half-baked almost by accident convention. > Overriding: 4% > Interfaces: 4% > Serialization: 2% CF has these already, see overloading above. > Multiple Inheritance: 2% You do not want this. It's the wrong solution to composition. > So ColdFusion is Object Oriented after all, I have always thought so and am > supported by the numbers, You're not supported- there is no proof you have a representative sample, and I'd argue the poll was open for way too short a window as well. Lies, damn lies and statistics, right ? :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to collaboratively seize 24/7 methodologies on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283362 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
On Tuesday 10 Jul 2007, Andrew Scott wrote: > Sean why are you so against this? I welcome this with great open arms... I think he felt in the past that now everyone will start splattering CFINTERFACE across everything, without good reason. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to preemptively compete performance-oriented segments on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283361 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Executing Code in a CFINCLUDE within CFMAIL
On Monday 09 Jul 2007, K Simanonok wrote: > > I am trying to get CF code to run inside a CFMAIL tag where the code > > is called by a CFINCLUDE. There are plenty of historical examples > > here showing how people have done it in the past, but when I reproduce > > their code all that gets emailed is the bare code, What code is this then ? Something like: a.cfm: b.cfm: #now()# ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to seamlessly pursue back-end communities on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283360 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
I will, Sean why are you so against this? I welcome this with great open arms... On 7/10/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Smackdown... Boo ya. > > Just don't get Sean started on Interfaces :-p > > > > > > > > > > "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, > Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, > Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of > the > intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please > note > that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the > information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error please return it to the sender or > call > our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within > this > communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." > Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com > > -Original Message- > From: Sean Corfield > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Tue Jul 10 09:01:41 2007 > Subject: Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO? > > On 7/9/07, Steve Brownlee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Overloading > > - Generics > > - Method overriding > > - Static methods > > - And most importantly, it's not typed (i.e. you can't cast a Sphere CFC > as > > a Ball CFC, among a myriad of other possibilities) > > None of these has the slightest thing to do with OO. Lots of OO > languages out there do not have any of these features! > > This is exactly my point: you're blinded by Java. Generics in > particular are ANTI-OO. Generic programming is completely orthogonal > to OO. Read some of the literature. Read about the STL in C++. > > You CANNOT have overloading in a dynamically typed language. > > ColdFusion already has method overriding. > > Static methods have nothing to do with OO (they are in fact more > procedural than OO). > > Casting types has nothing to do with OO - in a dynamic language, you > don't NEED casts - the objects already behave the right way. > -- > Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ > > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." > -- Margaret Atwood > > > > ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283359 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
Smackdown... Boo ya. Just don't get Sean started on Interfaces :-p "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield To: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Jul 10 09:01:41 2007 Subject: Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO? On 7/9/07, Steve Brownlee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Overloading > - Generics > - Method overriding > - Static methods > - And most importantly, it's not typed (i.e. you can't cast a Sphere CFC as > a Ball CFC, among a myriad of other possibilities) None of these has the slightest thing to do with OO. Lots of OO languages out there do not have any of these features! This is exactly my point: you're blinded by Java. Generics in particular are ANTI-OO. Generic programming is completely orthogonal to OO. Read some of the literature. Read about the STL in C++. You CANNOT have overloading in a dynamically typed language. ColdFusion already has method overriding. Static methods have nothing to do with OO (they are in fact more procedural than OO). Casting types has nothing to do with OO - in a dynamic language, you don't NEED casts - the objects already behave the right way. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283358 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
On 7/9/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "CF is not OO. CF should NOT be OO. And lastly, I pray to God that CF never > becomes OO." > > I didn't agree, I actually think ColdFusion is OO, and thought that view > especially from Ray was odd, then I thought, well perhaps I have it wrong I don't agree with Ray either but I'm surprised that 66% of respondents agree with me (and you Dale). > Overloading: 16% Can't have overloading in a dynamic language (and overloading is nothing to do with OO). > Constructors: 10% Constructors are a convention - we have one: init(). > Overriding: 4% ColdFusion has overriding. > Interfaces: 4% CF8 has interfaces (unfortunately). > Multiple Inheritance: 2% Not needed in a dynamic language (statically typed languages need either multiple inheritance or interfaces). > Serialization: 2% CF8 has serialization. > but then again 52% of people passed on what the main missing feature was. Bear in mind that 42% felt Adobe don't need to add anything so only 10% really passed on the missing feature. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283357 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
On 7/9/07, Steve Brownlee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Overloading > - Generics > - Method overriding > - Static methods > - And most importantly, it's not typed (i.e. you can't cast a Sphere CFC as > a Ball CFC, among a myriad of other possibilities) None of these has the slightest thing to do with OO. Lots of OO languages out there do not have any of these features! This is exactly my point: you're blinded by Java. Generics in particular are ANTI-OO. Generic programming is completely orthogonal to OO. Read some of the literature. Read about the STL in C++. You CANNOT have overloading in a dynamically typed language. ColdFusion already has method overriding. Static methods have nothing to do with OO (they are in fact more procedural than OO). Casting types has nothing to do with OO - in a dynamic language, you don't NEED casts - the objects already behave the right way. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:283356 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
