RE: Flash on iPhone
Ach - it's already tomorrow in Australia! From: John M Bliss [bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: March 31, 2010 7:43 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Flash on iPhone And heck froze over: http://www.macworld.com.au/iphone/view/apple-introduces-flash-for-iphone-4703 -- John Bliss IT Professional @jbliss (t) / http://www.brandiandjohn.com ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332512 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Flash on iPhone
$799.99 to purchase Flash on your iPhone??? No thanks. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2010, at 20:43, John M Bliss wrote: > > And heck froze over: > http://www.macworld.com.au/iphone/view/apple-introduces-flash-for-iphone-4703 > > -- > John Bliss > IT Professional > @jbliss (t) / http://www.brandiandjohn.com > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332511 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Flash on iPhone
...or it's already April Fool's Day in Australia. D'oh! On Mar 31, 2010 8:43 PM, "John M Bliss" wrote: And heck froze over: http://www.macworld.com.au/iphone/view/apple-introduces-flash-for-iphone-4703 -- John Bliss IT Professional @jbliss (t) / http://www.brandiandjohn.com ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332510 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Flash on iPhone
And heck froze over: http://www.macworld.com.au/iphone/view/apple-introduces-flash-for-iphone-4703 -- John Bliss IT Professional @jbliss (t) / http://www.brandiandjohn.com ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332509 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: What happens to session variables after redirecting to https?
No, from a cookie perspective, http://mysite.com and https://mysite.com are 2 different domains, so you need to send the session tokens across the gap. Any of a number of approaches can work, but here's the quick and dirty: https://#mySecureURL#"; addtoken="yes" /> Or, if you are using some other redirection, you can append the following to the URL: &cfid=#cookie.cfid#&cftoken=#cookie.cftoken# (Note that the nomenclature is different if you're using Java session IDs.) ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332508 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
What happens to session variables after redirecting to https?
I have an application that expects to be run in http, but when it needs to process a credit card, it goes to https. Then afterwards it goes back to http. I do this by pulling the URL and prefixing it with the appropriate http or https: notation. Does anyone have practical experience with what happens to session variables across this transition? It looks to me as though they are all there, but I've observed a few unusual situations where that isn't always the case. Any practical experience or pointers to documentation about this would be appreciated. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332507 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Integrating SSRS with coldfusion
Unless someone comes through with a "yes" answer to your second question I think you will find this to be a very challenging task. SSRS doesn't play nice with anything but .NET. Would an iframe pointing to an ASP.NET page work for you? How about a pop-up window? :-) Complicating this issue is that the security model in SQL Server 2008 became more restrictive. With the introduction of SSRS 2008, Microsoft now goes out of their way to prevent developers from allowing anonymous access to SSRS reports, preferring that users log in using secure methods such as Windows Authentication. It is possible to allow anonymous authentication, but it takes quite a bit of effort to enable that buried ability. If you really need SSRS your best solution might be to create an ASP.NET Web site for reporting, or using a product like Microsoft SharePoint, or recreating the reports in a ColdFusion-friendly or Java-friendly reporting system. If you do end up finding a good way to integrate SSRS into ColdFusion, please let me know. You might want to post this question on the official MS SSRS support forum. Microsoft provides fantastic developer support on their forums. Good luck, Mike Chabot On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:50 PM, sarah mfr wrote: > > I am working on an internet site using coldfusion and want to integrate SSRS. > I need the full functionality of reporting services and sql report service > report builder > If I used the Url access method mentioned in the following link > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms153586.aspx > what kind of authentication can I use? > > Did any body created a webservice api for ssrs and used cfinvoke? If so can > you give me hints? > Thanks > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332506 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Except that there are people out there with more money than sense, and can afford it and will but it. Others are more conservative and will look at value for money first. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 2:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! Others disagree, presumably, since they're buying the product. So I think that it's impossible for you to make that claim - if your claim were correct, no one would buy it. At best, your claim is, if not impossible, extremely premature. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332505 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Integrating SSRS with coldfusion
I am working on an internet site using coldfusion and want to integrate SSRS. I need the full functionality of reporting services and sql report service report builder If I used the Url access method mentioned in the following link http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms153586.aspx what kind of authentication can I use? Did any body created a webservice api for ssrs and used cfinvoke? If so can you give me hints? Thanks ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332504 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFQUERY Question
If the query is executing correctly but bringing back no records, this should work with blahname.recordcount equal zero . If the query is not executing correctly, blahname.recordcount will not equal zero. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Dave Sueltenfuss wrote: > > I'm running into an odd behavior with CFQUERY (at least I think it is odd) > > I have the following code (example) > > > SELECT blah > FROM blah > WHERE blah = 1 > > > > 12345 > > > if the query blahName returns no results, I thought i would still be able to > access blahName.recordCount > > Am I wrong on this, or is there something else I am overlooking? > > Thanks > -Dave > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332503 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFQUERY Question
Ok, found the cause of the issue, by taking the query into SQL Server In SQL, the following is being returned *Warning: Null value is eliminated by an aggregate or other SET operation. (0 row(s) affected)* So it appears this is what is throwing off the query results in CF I am working on resolving this issue now. -Dave On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Robert Harrison wrote: > > You are correct that it should work, but they maybe something else in the > code which is preventing the query from being executed. On the top of your > page add: > > > > And that will deal with the case where the query is not executed. > > Robert B. Harrison > Director of Interactive Services > Austin & Williams > 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 > Hauppauge NY 11788 > P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 > F : 631.434.7022 > http://www.austin-williams.com > > Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be &. > > Plug in to our blog: A&W Unplugged > http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged > > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Sueltenfuss [mailto:dsueltenf...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:59 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: CFQUERY Question > > > I'm running into an odd behavior with CFQUERY (at least I think it is odd) > > I have the following code (example) > > > SELECT blah > FROM blah > WHERE blah = 1 > > > > 12345 > > > if the query blahName returns no results, I thought i would still be able > to > access blahName.recordCount > > Am I wrong on this, or is there something else I am overlooking? > > Thanks > -Dave > > > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332502 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFQUERY Question
You are correct that it should work, but they maybe something else in the code which is preventing the query from being executed. On the top of your page add: And that will deal with the case where the query is not executed. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin & Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be &. Plug in to our blog: A&W Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged -Original Message- From: Dave Sueltenfuss [mailto:dsueltenf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:59 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFQUERY Question I'm running into an odd behavior with CFQUERY (at least I think it is odd) I have the following code (example) SELECT blah FROM blah WHERE blah = 1 12345 if the query blahName returns no results, I thought i would still be able to access blahName.recordCount Am I wrong on this, or is there something else I am overlooking? Thanks -Dave ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332501 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFQUERY Question
You are correct, the record count for an empty query object does exist (and should be 0). What exactly is not working? Are you getting an error message? On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Dave Sueltenfuss wrote: > > I'm running into an odd behavior with CFQUERY (at least I think it is odd) > > I have the following code (example) > > > SELECT blah > FROM blah > WHERE blah = 1 > > > > 12345 > > > if the query blahName returns no results, I thought i would still be able > to > access blahName.recordCount > > Am I wrong on this, or is there something else I am overlooking? > > Thanks > -Dave > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332500 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFQUERY Question
Your cfif statement asks for the recordCount to be returned on if the recordCount is greater than 0. Try cfif blahName.recordcount GTE 0 and you should get the recordCount either way. Rick -Original Message- From: Dave Sueltenfuss [mailto:dsueltenf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:59 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFQUERY Question I'm running into an odd behavior with CFQUERY (at least I think it is odd) I have the following code (example) SELECT blah FROM blah WHERE blah = 1 12345 if the query blahName returns no results, I thought i would still be able to access blahName.recordCount Am I wrong on this, or is there something else I am overlooking? Thanks -Dave ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332499 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CFQUERY Question
I'm running into an odd behavior with CFQUERY (at least I think it is odd) I have the following code (example) SELECT blah FROM blah WHERE blah = 1 12345 if the query blahName returns no results, I thought i would still be able to access blahName.recordCount Am I wrong on this, or is there something else I am overlooking? Thanks -Dave ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332498 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
> Happy trails! You, too! Rick -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! > You're right that I do say it's wrong *for me*. But, I think the pricing > is *wrong* completely. Now, some may say it's worth it, and I might say > that too, if it had more features that I actually use. But, I think the pricing > is too high, period. Others disagree, presumably, since they're buying the product. So I think that it's impossible for you to make that claim - if your claim were correct, no one would buy it. At best, your claim is, if not impossible, extremely premature. > Wouldn't you say, if a toothbrush manufacturer announced a new product (not really > that much new, except a few new features) and priced the toothbrush at $50, that the > manufacturer had over-priced the toothbrush? (Yes, that's an extreme example, but I'm > just trying to determine if you agree that any product at any price can be over-priced) If I made my living with a toothbrush, I'd buy the best damn toothbrush on the market. Presumably, the cost of my fancy new toothbrush would be recouped by the improvements in my work. If that weren't the case, I wouldn't buy the toothbrush. And at that point, I'd agree that the toothbrush is overpriced, at least for myself. Others might find the toothbrush more valuable in their work, since it comes bundled with Plaque Builder 4, so they might have a different assessment of its overall value. But in any case, that's not a very helpful analogy, because people don't make a living with their toothbrushes. > If we have to have a completely informed opinion on pricing, then none of us > can comment, because we don't know how much Adobe spent on development of > the product or what their sales approach to this is. That's been pretty much the gist of every comment I've made. I'm not asserting that the price is what it should be. You're asserting that it isn't. One of these is not like the other. > How high would CFB have to be priced for you to have the perspective > (without any numbers to back up your opinion) that it was priced too high? $500, > $1000? I'd pay $500 for it, especially since it's bundled with Flash Builder. I think $1000 might be too high for me, simply because I don't do enough CF programming on a daily basis that I need the best tool available. But again, that's not the same as saying it's too expensive for everyone else, or that it's simply priced too high, period. People pay crazy money for Visual Studio, after all, although I do think that's arguably a better value proposition for .NET developers than CFB is for CF developers. And with that, I'm now taking my own advice and muting this thread in Gmail. Happy trails! Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or ons ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332497 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: occasional issue with form fields not being passed.
Thanks Dave. My initial feeling was to get them to try a different browser and switch off MacAfee (yuck). Will try that and see where we get to. Cheers Will -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 31 March 2010 16:42 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: occasional issue with form fields not being passed. > Got a form with some hidden fields, that gets passed to an https page. This > has been up and running and working for several years. Very very > occasionally the form scope that is passed is empty. Does anyone have any > ideas how this could happen. I have a user who is insisting they clicked the > button (submitted the form). Interestingly, the cgi.referer is blank too. > Could MacAfee security centre cause this behaviour? Or a proxy server? Their > browser is IE8. I've tried to recreate this behaviour but without any joy. There are lots of things that could cause problems like these. I'd have the user in question try alternatives - disabling McAfee, using a different browser, etc, and see what data you receive when they attempt these alternatives using the getHttpRequestData function, which will basically capture the raw data being received by CF. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332496 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: occasional issue with form fields not being passed.
> Got a form with some hidden fields, that gets passed to an https page. This > has been up and running and working for several years. Very very > occasionally the form scope that is passed is empty. Does anyone have any > ideas how this could happen. I have a user who is insisting they clicked the > button (submitted the form). Interestingly, the cgi.referer is blank too. > Could MacAfee security centre cause this behaviour? Or a proxy server? Their > browser is IE8. I've tried to recreate this behaviour but without any joy. There are lots of things that could cause problems like these. I'd have the user in question try alternatives - disabling McAfee, using a different browser, etc, and see what data you receive when they attempt these alternatives using the getHttpRequestData function, which will basically capture the raw data being received by CF. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332495 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
occasional issue with form fields not being passed.
Hi, Got a form with some hidden fields, that gets passed to an https page. This has been up and running and working for several years. Very very occasionally the form scope that is passed is empty. Does anyone have any ideas how this could happen. I have a user who is insisting they clicked the button (submitted the form). Interestingly, the cgi.referer is blank too. Could MacAfee security centre cause this behaviour? Or a proxy server? Their browser is IE8. I've tried to recreate this behaviour but without any joy. Any ideas? I'm at a loss. Will ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332494 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom search engine
> So, this is why I keep pushing the spidering idea. I understand I may give up > some fine- > grained control over the index but, given the limited budget, a spider > approach that can > generate a Verity index seems the best way to stay within their budget. Well, maybe you can use the Verity spider, although I still think you could get where you want by querying the database directly. You'll need to have your site respond as localhost for the spider to work. Alternatively, you could use a tool like wget to fetch all of your pages as HTML, then index those files and rewrite the URLs. But that's going to be a bit of a pain to update. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332493 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
> You're right that I do say it's wrong *for me*. But, I think the pricing > is *wrong* completely. Now, some may say it's worth it, and I might say > that too, if it had more features that I actually use. But, I think the > pricing > is too high, period. Others disagree, presumably, since they're buying the product. So I think that it's impossible for you to make that claim - if your claim were correct, no one would buy it. At best, your claim is, if not impossible, extremely premature. > Wouldn't you say, if a toothbrush manufacturer announced a new product (not > really > that much new, except a few new features) and priced the toothbrush at $50, > that the > manufacturer had over-priced the toothbrush? (Yes, that's an extreme > example, but I'm > just trying to determine if you agree that any product at any price can be > over-priced) If I made my living with a toothbrush, I'd buy the best damn toothbrush on the market. Presumably, the cost of my fancy new toothbrush would be recouped by the improvements in my work. If that weren't the case, I wouldn't buy the toothbrush. And at that point, I'd agree that the toothbrush is overpriced, at least for myself. Others might find the toothbrush more valuable in their work, since it comes bundled with Plaque Builder 4, so they might have a different assessment of its overall value. But in any case, that's not a very helpful analogy, because people don't make a living with their toothbrushes. > If we have to have a completely informed opinion on pricing, then none of us > can comment, because we don't know how much Adobe spent on development of > the product or what their sales approach to this is. That's been pretty much the gist of every comment I've made. I'm not asserting that the price is what it should be. You're asserting that it isn't. One of these is not like the other. > How high would CFB have to be priced for you to have the perspective > (without any numbers to back up your opinion) that it was priced too high? > $500, > $1000? I'd pay $500 for it, especially since it's bundled with Flash Builder. I think $1000 might be too high for me, simply because I don't do enough CF programming on a daily basis that I need the best tool available. But again, that's not the same as saying it's too expensive for everyone else, or that it's simply priced too high, period. People pay crazy money for Visual Studio, after all, although I do think that's arguably a better value proposition for .NET developers than CFB is for CF developers. And with that, I'm now taking my own advice and muting this thread in Gmail. Happy trails! Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or ons ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332492 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!
> But it's also unfounded, it's just a belief, and what you really seem > to mean is "right for you". You're right that I do say it's wrong *for me*. But, I think the pricing is *wrong* completely. Now, some may say it's worth it, and I might say that too, if it had more features that I actually use. But, I think the pricing is too high, period. Wouldn't you say, if a toothbrush manufacturer announced a new product (not really that much new, except a few new features) and priced the toothbrush at $50, that the manufacturer had over-priced the toothbrush? (Yes, that's an extreme example, but I'm just trying to determine if you agree that any product at any price can be over-priced) > Thank you for your concern, but my "people skills" are satisfactory. Yes, we're all entitled to our opinion... ;o) > I don't think it's too much to ask people to understand the numbers they're > objecting to, in a discussion about pricing If we have to have a completely informed opinion on pricing, then none of us can comment, because we don't know how much Adobe spent on development of the product or what their sales approach to this is. If they really do have to charge that much per copy sold to recoup their investment based on projected sales, then I would say they've got to price it where it is. But they may also be floating a trial price-point to see if they can get the developers to bite, with intention to lower the price if sales expectations aren't met. > You've been "trying to stay away" from this conversation? I mean staying away from addressing inappropriate comments...not the discussion in general... How high would CFB have to be priced for you to have the perspective (without any numbers to back up your opinion) that it was priced too high? $500, $1000? Rick -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:23 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! > Dave, you just can't stand it when someone else has an opinion, can you? Opinions are fine. Informed opinions are better. I reserve the right to point out what I see as the errors in the opinions of others. > I can tell you one thing...I may not have any experience selling > "selling non-custom desktop software intended for the developer market" > but I, and plenty of other developers, have plenty of experience selling > our services and products and therefore, yes, we know a lot about selling > services and products. And again, if someone else came along and told you they know your business better than you do, when they're not in that business: would you accept what they have to say as better than what you already know? > And it's not a stretch to believe that Adobe has *not* "priced CFBuilder > right". Sure. That's not a stretch. But it's also unfounded, it's just a belief, and what you really seem to mean is "right for you". It may not be right for you. But it is what it is. > Perhaps your vast knowledge and experience in the world qualifies you to > have an opinion, but, actually, everyone on the list, no matter how little > knowledge and experience they have, is entitled to an opinion...whether you > like the opinion or not. Sure, everyone's entitled to an opinion. And everyone else is entitled to point out the flaws in that opinion. > Try to participate in the discussions without personal attacks and, as you > say, "snide remarks"...they just make you look very petty. > > Perhaps you should devote time to Psychology 101 and stay away from > numbers for awhile. Work on your people skills. Thank you for your concern, but my "people skills" are satisfactory. However, I am in the fortunate position of not having to worry too much about whether random people on the internet like me. And I don't think it's too much to ask people to understand the numbers they're objecting to, in a discussion about pricing. Out of all the things I wrote, the only one you responded to was an offhand comment, rather than any of the actual substantive statements. > I've been trying to stay away from this conversation for the most part You've been "trying to stay away" from this conversation? The numbers ... say otherwise. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332491 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom search engine
Dave - An issue is that there is not a 1:1 correspondence between database entries and pages. I actually think the database aspect of dynamically creating pages is not the big issue. The majority of the issue is that this site is not well structured and has a web of include files and custom tags that are each included on multiple pages under certain conditions. The site is old and was never designed as a whole: they have a very limited budget so they make changes incrementally - we've all seen where this approach leads. So, this is why I keep pushing the spidering idea. I understand I may give up some fine-grained control over the index but, given the limited budget, a spider approach that can generate a Verity index seems the best way to stay within their budget. In spite of the above, I remain open to alternative approaches and very much appreciate the suggestions made on this thread. - Dave ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332490 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom search engine
> I've spent the evening reading doc for Verity and Googling for info but it > still seems my > take is right. Verity can index static files or database query results but > not dynamically > generated HTML. The content of my client's site is complex enough that > indexing > database query results doesn't map well to dynamic pages. The right tool > seems to be > a spider but then what to do with the spider's results? Indexing database query results should work out very nicely, actually, even with a complex site - especially with a complex site! You're using the database to build the contents of your pages, right? In the same way, you can use the database to build the contents of your index. You simply have to have a way to build a URL that will let the search user get to the page that corresponds to the search result. > I can think of a hack where the spider creates a shadow directory tree of the > real > content and then I cfindex that but tell cfindex the URLprefix of the > original tree. Any > thoughts on feasibility? I think it would be much easier and more reliable to simply use CFINDEX against your database queries. This isn't that hard to do, and I'm sure there are some online tutorials somewhere. Using the database queries directly has a big advantage over using a spider - it's easy to exclude meaningless content from searches. For example, when you spider content, the spider gets all the content - navigation, headers/footers, etc. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332489 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
> Dave, you just can't stand it when someone else has an opinion, can you? Opinions are fine. Informed opinions are better. I reserve the right to point out what I see as the errors in the opinions of others. > I can tell you one thing...I may not have any experience selling > "selling non-custom desktop software intended for the developer market" > but I, and plenty of other developers, have plenty of experience selling > our services and products and therefore, yes, we know a lot about selling > services and products. And again, if someone else came along and told you they know your business better than you do, when they're not in that business: would you accept what they have to say as better than what you already know? > And it's not a stretch to believe that Adobe has *not* "priced CFBuilder > right". Sure. That's not a stretch. But it's also unfounded, it's just a belief, and what you really seem to mean is "right for you". It may not be right for you. But it is what it is. > Perhaps your vast knowledge and experience in the world qualifies you to > have an opinion, but, actually, everyone on the list, no matter how little > knowledge and experience they have, is entitled to an opinion...whether you > like the opinion or not. Sure, everyone's entitled to an opinion. And everyone else is entitled to point out the flaws in that opinion. > Try to participate in the discussions without personal attacks and, as you > say, "snide remarks"...they just make you look very petty. > > Perhaps you should devote time to Psychology 101 and stay away from > numbers for awhile. Work on your people skills. Thank you for your concern, but my "people skills" are satisfactory. However, I am in the fortunate position of not having to worry too much about whether random people on the internet like me. And I don't think it's too much to ask people to understand the numbers they're objecting to, in a discussion about pricing. Out of all the things I wrote, the only one you responded to was an offhand comment, rather than any of the actual substantive statements. > I've been trying to stay away from this conversation for the most part You've been "trying to stay away" from this conversation? The numbers ... say otherwise. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332488 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: reverse engineer PHP to CF
On Monday 29 Mar 2010, Glyn Jackson wrote: > I no nothing about PHP. can any one reverse engineer this following in CF? It appears to allow the display and overwrite of any file the user knows the path of (or can guess) and listing of all the files in the current directory (web root?). Shouldn't be too hard to rewrite sensibly with proper path handling :-) -- Helping to preemptively disintermediate out-of-the-box frictionless virtual mindshares as part of the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08 This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word partner to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.co ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332487 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Decrypt CF scheduled job password?
Yeah if you do google "coldfusion decrypt datasource password" make sure you click on what's currently the 4th option entitled "How To Crack Coldfusion Datasources ". I think you'll find that the most helpful. ;) Paul Alkema AlkemaDesigns.com -Original Message- From: b...@bradwood.com [mailto:b...@bradwood.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:45 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Decrypt CF scheduled job password? I've never tried it, but if the cron passwords are stored the same way data source passwords are, then they probably are crackable. Google "coldfusion decrypt datasource password" Note: The people who figured out how to decrypt CF passwords had to decompile CF's source Java code so enter at your own legal risk. :) ~Brad Original Message Subject: Decrypt CF scheduled job password? From: Qing Xia Date: Tue, March 30, 2010 8:09 pm To: cf-talk Hello folks, I was just wondering, does anyone happen to know if the password in the CF scheduled job XML file (cfroot\lib\neo_cron.xml) is crackable? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332486 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFDOCUMENT grief
Excellent spot - that hadn't occurred to me - I call in a common file that has some settings in it and its in there - thanks for the find!! ++ Kevin Parker m: 0418 815 527 ++ -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:james.hol...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 2010 8:12 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFDOCUMENT grief Ere you sure you don't just have cfsetting enablecfoutputonly="true" somewhere in your code (maybe in Applicaiton.cfc etc)? mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ On 31 March 2010 17:07, Kevin Parker wrote: > > Problem solved (very quickly) - it seems that notwithstanding the examples > I > saw you need to wrap the whole thing in CFOUPUT > > > ++ > Kevin Parker > m: 0418 815 527 > ++ > > > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Parker [mailto:tras...@internode.on.net] > Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 2010 8:02 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: CFDOCUMENT grief > > > Can anyone tell me what I'm missing here if anything please - trawled the > help etc etc > > I am using CFDOCUMENT (on a CF8 server) in an app to output a recipe record > to a PDF file. Trouble is only the code between the CFOUTPUT tags is > appearing in the PDF (also tried Flashpaper - same result). > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332485 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFDOCUMENT grief
Ere you sure you don't just have cfsetting enablecfoutputonly="true" somewhere in your code (maybe in Applicaiton.cfc etc)? mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ On 31 March 2010 17:07, Kevin Parker wrote: > > Problem solved (very quickly) - it seems that notwithstanding the examples > I > saw you need to wrap the whole thing in CFOUPUT > > > ++ > Kevin Parker > m: 0418 815 527 > ++ > > > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Parker [mailto:tras...@internode.on.net] > Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 2010 8:02 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: CFDOCUMENT grief > > > Can anyone tell me what I'm missing here if anything please - trawled the > help etc etc > > I am using CFDOCUMENT (on a CF8 server) in an app to output a recipe record > to a PDF file. Trouble is only the code between the CFOUTPUT tags is > appearing in the PDF (also tried Flashpaper - same result). > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332484 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFDOCUMENT grief
Problem solved (very quickly) - it seems that notwithstanding the examples I saw you need to wrap the whole thing in CFOUPUT ++ Kevin Parker m: 0418 815 527 ++ -Original Message- From: Kevin Parker [mailto:tras...@internode.on.net] Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 2010 8:02 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFDOCUMENT grief Can anyone tell me what I'm missing here if anything please - trawled the help etc etc I am using CFDOCUMENT (on a CF8 server) in an app to output a recipe record to a PDF file. Trouble is only the code between the CFOUTPUT tags is appearing in the PDF (also tried Flashpaper - same result). I'm not specifying any file parameters so it's being output straight to the browser (IE8 in this case) - the browser loads a PDF file (and Flashpaper if selected) but as I said it only shows the content between the CFOUTPUT tags. Title #get_Recipe.title# etc. TIA! ++ Kevin Parker m: 0418 815 527 ++ ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332483 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CFDOCUMENT grief
Can anyone tell me what I'm missing here if anything please - trawled the help etc etc I am using CFDOCUMENT (on a CF8 server) in an app to output a recipe record to a PDF file. Trouble is only the code between the CFOUTPUT tags is appearing in the PDF (also tried Flashpaper - same result). I'm not specifying any file parameters so it's being output straight to the browser (IE8 in this case) - the browser loads a PDF file (and Flashpaper if selected) but as I said it only shows the content between the CFOUTPUT tags. Title #get_Recipe.title# etc. TIA! ++ Kevin Parker m: 0418 815 527 ++ ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332482 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm