RE: Coldfusion Integration with .net,java

[Josh Adams]

You are correct, Andrew:  the .NET editions of BlueDragon allow for
integration with other .NET code and the Java editions of BlueDragon allow
for integration with other Java code.  BlueDragon .NET (there are two
editions, Standard and Enterprise, but the underlying code base is the same)
is implemented as a native extension of the ASP.NET processing pipeline and
as such it truly makes CFML pages deployed on BlueDragon .NET into ASP.NET
pages.  In other words, with BlueDragon .NET, CFML is a ASP.NET development
language.  BlueDragon Server, BlueDragon Server JX, and BlueDragon J2EE are
implemented with Java.  They allow great opportunities for integration with
other Java code.  In those products, as in any Java product, the best we
could do is use Java-to-.NET bridge technology to allow for some small
amount of non-native integration with .NET.  It is not currently our plan to
implement such support, but at such time as our customers and prospects ask
for it, we will certainly implement it.  However, to this point, our
customers and prospects interested in .NET integration have indicated they
prefer the true .NET integration afforded them by BlueDragon .NET.

Josh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Atlanta Communications

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion Integration with .net,java

What sort of question is that? As I said earlier CF can leverage of .Net and
java libraries.

Currently only BlueDragon supports .Net until CF8 is released and CF8 will
support both out of the box and I will not comment on BueDragon I think it
is one or the other. Someone will correct me if I am wrong there.

And it is upto your needs, what are you looking at developing. CFML is a
scripting language for Web development, .Net and Java are more than that,
and because there is a huge development base there might be an application
like jasper reports or something that you might want to leverage of.

So then you follow the API's of that and then intergaret that into your
application.

I think you need to be more specific on what you want to do, or go away and
develop in another language as your not clear on what CF is.



On 4/25/07, srinivas ganta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for your replies.
> can u please give few cases where you used .net classes or java classes?
> that will help me to go for java or .net.
>
> Thanks
> Srinivas
>
>
>
> On 4/25/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > No he means that CF8 can do this
> >
> > CreateObject('.Net','some.net.class');
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/25/07, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hate to break the fun by doing Coldfusion to .NET or .NET to
> Coldfusion
> > > with
> > > Webservices is entirely possible. Though I'm quite sure you mean 
> > > that
> > the
> > > datatypes are off (query <> dataset), that's easy to deal with.
> > >
> > > We deal with CF <> DotNET in a number of internal projects and 
> > > they
> all
> > > function extremely well.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > !k
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 5:25 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: Coldfusion Integration with .net,java
> > >
> > > CF 7 is built on Java. If you want to integrate natively with .NET 
> > > you'll have to wait for CF8. Otherwise webservices work well with 
> > > ...NET.
> > >
> > > On 4/24/07, srinivas ganta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >   Any guys had gone thru the coldfusion integration with .net or
> Java?
> > > > i have few questions regarding it.
> > > > 1.what can u achive with integrating coldfusion with .net or java?
> > > > 2.which combinatation works good(coldfusion with java   OR
> coldfusion
> > > with
> > > > ..net)
> > > > 3. what kind of projects u suggest CF with .net?
> > > > 4. what kind of projects u suggest CF with java?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
> > > http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 



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RE: BlueDragon Question

[Josh Adams]

And the beta 2 which should be out by early December will support
Application.cfc as well.

But it's not quite as simple as converting Application.cfc to
Application.cfm.  Application.cfm is a chunk of procedural code executed at
the beginning of every request; Application.cfc is a component with methods
that fire in response to particular events.  However, depending on what of
those methods he needs, Jason may be able to take the appropriate parts of
his Application.cfc and put them in Application.cfm.

Josh 

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Roberson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon Question

Oops, I meant Jason...

If you have BD 6.2 up and running on OS X all you have to do is convert your
Application.cfc file to Application.cfm. As was already mentioned, BD 6.2
does not support Application.cfc, but BD 7 which will be release in
January(?) will.



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RE: BlueDragon Question

[Josh Adams]

It's not being held back--when it's ready, it will be released!  We'll be
sure to announce it on the BlueDragon Interest list so subscribe there to be
ensured of hearing the news of the release.

Josh 

-Original Message-
From: Jason T. Slack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon Question

Hi Josh,

Any chance of getting this beta early?

-Jason
On Nov 16, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Josh Adams wrote:

> It's possible that you're not doing anything wrong in regards to BD 7 
> beta--the installer may not have been tested on Intel Mac.  We would 
> expect, however, that if you could get it installed, it would run on 
> Intel Mac.
> However, we are working on an installer for BD 7 beta 2 for Intel Mac 
> that will be better for you anyway as it will support the native 
> adapters needed if you don't want to use BD's built-in web server.  We 
> expect to release that installer shortly after Thanksgiving.
>
> By all means, contact me any time in regards to BlueDragon.  Also, 
> note that our BlueDragon Interest mailing list is a great 
> resource--the people on that
> list are amazing at helping out with installation-related issues.   
> Check it
> out:
>
> http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/self_help/
> archive_search/index
> ..cfm
>
> Josh
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason T. Slack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:46 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: BlueDragon Question
>
> Hi Josh,
>
> I tried the BlueDragon 7 beta and I cannot get it to install properly.
>
> It only installs the uninstall application, nothing else.
>
> the version 6.x installer works perfectly.
>
> So what do I do to fix my issue? I thought that I had everything set 
> correctly since it works on my Windows CF MX 7.02 server. I would 
> prefer to use OS X though.
>
> Can we chat about this more to see what I am doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Jason
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2006, at 2:34 PM, Josh Adams wrote:
>
>> Are you still having this problem, Jason?  If so, are you using the 
>> BlueDragon 7 beta?  If not, be sure to check it out!  You will need 
>> the BlueDragon 7 beta (or any later version we release) to use 
>> Application.cfc as versions of BlueDragon prior to 7 beta do not 
>> support the automatic use of that file.
>>
>> Let us know where things stand!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Josh
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jason T. Slack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:38 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: BlueDragon Question
>>
>> I am still getting Application.dsn not found.
>>
>> -Jason
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Rick Root wrote:
>>
>>> What error are you getting now?
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> Jason T. Slack wrote:
>>>> Hi Rick,
>>>>
>>>> I noticed that. Here is what I have:
>>>>
>>>> 1:
>>>> 2: 
>>>> 3: 
>>>> 4: SELECT LocationID, LocationName FROM Locations
>>>> 5:  WHERE LocationID = >>>
>>>> ^ Snippet from underlying CFML source
>>>>
>>>> and I have the following in application.cfc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> output="false">
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 15, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Rick Root wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jason T. Slack wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah that put me further along in the process.
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> You're missing an opening # sign on the datasource attribute
>>>>>
>>>>> Should be
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> whenever you get a missing end tag and you're absolutely sure 
>>>>> you're not missing an end tag, the likely culprit is an unmatched 
>>>>> #
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 



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RE: BlueDragon Question

[Josh Adams]

It's possible that you're not doing anything wrong in regards to BD 7
beta--the installer may not have been tested on Intel Mac.  We would expect,
however, that if you could get it installed, it would run on Intel Mac.
However, we are working on an installer for BD 7 beta 2 for Intel Mac that
will be better for you anyway as it will support the native adapters needed
if you don't want to use BD's built-in web server.  We expect to release
that installer shortly after Thanksgiving.

By all means, contact me any time in regards to BlueDragon.  Also, note that
our BlueDragon Interest mailing list is a great resource--the people on that
list are amazing at helping out with installation-related issues.  Check it
out:

http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/self_help/archive_search/index
..cfm

Josh 

-Original Message-
From: Jason T. Slack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon Question

Hi Josh,

I tried the BlueDragon 7 beta and I cannot get it to install properly.

It only installs the uninstall application, nothing else.

the version 6.x installer works perfectly.

So what do I do to fix my issue? I thought that I had everything set
correctly since it works on my Windows CF MX 7.02 server. I would prefer to
use OS X though.

Can we chat about this more to see what I am doing wrong?

Thanks,

-Jason


On Nov 15, 2006, at 2:34 PM, Josh Adams wrote:

> Are you still having this problem, Jason?  If so, are you using the 
> BlueDragon 7 beta?  If not, be sure to check it out!  You will need 
> the BlueDragon 7 beta (or any later version we release) to use 
> Application.cfc as versions of BlueDragon prior to 7 beta do not 
> support the automatic use of that file.
>
> Let us know where things stand!
>
> Thanks,
> Josh
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason T. Slack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:38 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: BlueDragon Question
>
> I am still getting Application.dsn not found.
>
> -Jason
>
> On Nov 15, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Rick Root wrote:
>
>> What error are you getting now?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> Jason T. Slack wrote:
>>> Hi Rick,
>>>
>>> I noticed that. Here is what I have:
>>>
>>> 1:
>>> 2: 
>>> 3: 
>>> 4: SELECT LocationID, LocationName FROM Locations
>>> 5:  WHERE LocationID = >>
>>> ^ Snippet from underlying CFML source
>>>
>>> and I have the following in application.cfc
>>>
>>>
>>>>> output="false">
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> -Jason
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 15, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Rick Root wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jason T. Slack wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah that put me further along in the process.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> You're missing an opening # sign on the datasource attribute
>>>>
>>>> Should be
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> whenever you get a missing end tag and you're absolutely sure 
>>>> you're not missing an end tag, the likely culprit is an unmatched #
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 



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RE: BlueDragon Question

[Josh Adams]

Are you still having this problem, Jason?  If so, are you using the
BlueDragon 7 beta?  If not, be sure to check it out!  You will need the
BlueDragon 7 beta (or any later version we release) to use Application.cfc
as versions of BlueDragon prior to 7 beta do not support the automatic use
of that file.

Let us know where things stand!

Thanks,
Josh

-Original Message-
From: Jason T. Slack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon Question

I am still getting Application.dsn not found.

-Jason

On Nov 15, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Rick Root wrote:

> What error are you getting now?
>
> Rick
>
> Jason T. Slack wrote:
>> Hi Rick,
>>
>> I noticed that. Here is what I have:
>>
>> 1:
>> 2: 
>> 3: 
>> 4: SELECT LocationID, LocationName FROM Locations
>> 5:  WHERE LocationID = >
>> ^ Snippet from underlying CFML source
>>
>> and I have the following in application.cfc
>>
>>
>>> output="false">
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>
>>
>> -Jason
>>
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Rick Root wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Jason T. Slack wrote:
>>>
 Yeah that put me further along in the process.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> You're missing an opening # sign on the datasource attribute
>>>
>>> Should be
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> whenever you get a missing end tag and you're absolutely sure you're 
>>> not missing an end tag, the likely culprit is an unmatched #
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 



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RE: BlueDragon Question

[Josh Adams]

We believe that issue to have been resolved fully as described here:

http://www.newatlanta.com/c/auth/support/bluedragon/bugtracking/detail?bugId
=2453

If anyone finds otherwise, please let us know.

Josh

-Original Message-
From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon Question

>
> Did you report this to New Atlanta?
>

Yes, and supposedly it was resolved...I stopped using the account though, so
I hadn't applied the hotfix that was supposed to have resolved the issue.  I
do recall someone on the NA mail list still having the same problem even
after the hotfix though.  Maybe one of the NA folks who's on this list could
address this issue.

-- Josh





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RE: Performance problem

[Josh Adams]

Back in June there was a thread called "CFFILE Performance" about this on
the BlueDragon Interest mailing list that might be helpful to you, Rick.  I
know you're a subscriber and that you probably have those emails handy.  But
for those who don't, you can search the archives of the list here:

http://www.newatlanta.com/c/products/bluedragon/self_help/archiveSearch/show
Search

Josh 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Performance problem

I have some code that dynamically generates CSV, TAB, and EXCEL (HTML
tables) from a query, and it is running pretty slowly.  A lot slower than
I'd like it to.  Essentially, I set a bunch of variables like START_PAGE,
END_PAGE, START_ROW, END_ROW, START_FIELD, and END_FIELD that allow me to
loop through the query and loop through the list of fields and output the
data in the appropriate format.

I added some debugging code and generating 124 rows took 19 seconds. 
Generating 1416 rows took 309 seconds.  Which means if someone wants to
generate a drop with 5,000 rows, it's gonna take a long freakin' time!

It seems like it shouldn't be that slow.  It's only writing every 100 rows
to disk (the 124 record file was 445KB).  And a couple of cflog statements
indicate that the file write takes less than a second.

Here's the query loop that outputs the rows of data.






















I suspect that it's the Evaluate() that's running slowly.

Any ideas on how to speed this code up?

Thanks!

Rick



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RE: OT: Anyone else affected by the hostmysite outage?

[Josh Adams]

I assume you're speaking of pipe redundancy to the affected datacenter,
aren't you?  I imagine that they have bought pipe from multiple providers
but at some point those probably just about have to come in and out of the
building in the same place.  Anyone know that not to be true?

In terms of data center redundancy, they do offer that, but naturally you
have to pay for it.

Josh 

-Original Message-
From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Anyone else affected by the hostmysite outage?

What, no redundancy?


- Original Message -
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To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:20 AM
Subject: OT: Anyone else affected by the hostmysite outage?


> One of their datacenters has been chopped from the net buy a "construction
> accident".
>
> Anyone else affected?  Feed-Squirrel's gone for the time being...
>
> -- 
> Neil Middleton
>
> Visit feed-squirrel.com
>
>
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RE: BlueDragon no seeing IIS on W2K3

[Josh Adams]

Yep, some of us New Atlantans are indeed here, Eric.  Posting here certainly
works.  That said, Jim is correct that posting on the BlueDragon Interest
list is apt to get you the quickest response to such a question.

So anyway--are you saying you're squared away now?  Still need that web
service?  I don't know that I have anything for you but I'm also not sure I
completely follow what you need it to do.

Josh 

-Original Message-
From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon no seeing IIS on W2K3

Yeah I thought I would try here first. I just unsubscribed from the New
Atlanta list, ironically.

But I did find a post from Charlie stating, paraphrased with artistic
license, "Who Cares". BD works fine from IIS without BD seeing IIS.

I did a test that failed, which made me think the connection wasn't working.
my bad. It really was working.

I think some of the New Atlanta techs are here also, but I could be wrong.

thanks for the advice.

Take Care,
Eric

-Original Message-
From: Jim Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 16, 2006 9:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon no seeing IIS on W2K3

On 8/16/06, Eric Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> installing BlueDragon 6.21/302 on W2K3 and for some reason it isn't 
> seeing IIS to install the adapter. Oddly enough this is a reinstall, 
> where it recognized IIS originally. Thoughts?
>
> There was an issue previously where you needed to create a scripts 
> folder, but I thought that was resolved.
>
> Also looking for a good sample CFC/Web Service for BlueDragon - WDDX 
> API
to
> access some functionality on third party sites. If there are any good 
> examples out there let me know.
>
> Eric
>

Eric,

While you may get a good answer to your question here, it would be more
appropriate for  the BlueDragon list run by New Atlanta.  You'll see a lot
of the same faces over there, with the addition of some of the New Atlanta
techs.

http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/self_help/archive_search/index
cfm

-jim
--
Jim Wright
Wright Business Solutions
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
919-417-2257




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RE: what if the next CF...

[Josh Adams]

I can't speak to the capabilities of Coral Web Builder but I can tell you
that here at New Atlanta we have a program for standalone CFML web
applications deployed on BlueDragon.  Given the proper business case, we
will negotiate significant reductions in licensing costs and/or arrange
other compensation schemes such as monthly royalties.  If this is of
interest to you, check out the ISV segment of our BlueDragon TrueBlue
Partner Program here:

http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/partners/isv.cfm

If you're ready to take it to the next step and discuss how we can work
together, shoot me an email off-list and I'll put you in touch with the
right people here at New Atlanta.

Josh 

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From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 8:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: what if the next CF...

I've been reading about Coral Web Builder (again) after your email.

It sounds intriguing...question...does Coral Web Builder take the place of
Cold Fusion Server in development, too?

I'm trying to understand if by buying this script engine, I can avoid buying
Cold Fusion Server altogether.  I'm still (happily) using CF 4.5, but Coral
Web Builder would give me most of the latest functionality for only $89 with
the special they're running.

Just not quite sure where Coral Web Builder fits into the process.

Rick



-Original Message-
From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 6:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: what if the next CF...

It would be cool if you could deploy apps on cd.

Anyone on here use Coral Web Builder? You can build coldfusion applications
and deploy them on a auto run cd as one of the choices...

http://www.pcaonline.com/prod/index.cfm?loc=coral






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RE: cfquery - single quotes become doubled

[Josh Adams]

Make sure that you understand the security implications of using queries
with .   defends you against SQL injection
attacks and should always be used with untrusted data such as user input.
If you're dynamically building your query, you can't use  with
CF.  In that case you need to make sure that you sanitize any user input to
remove characters that are potential SQL injection hazards.  Note that using
a whitelist approach is greatly preferred to using a blacklist approach.
Note also that just because you build some of your query dynamically doesn't
mean you have to build all of it dynamically--you can mix your dynamic part
in with a static part that uses .  Then so long as the dynamic
part is not built from untrusted data you won't have to do any additional
work to sanitize your data to remove characters that are potential SQL
injection hazards.

Note that with BlueDragon you CAN build a dynamic query string that contains
.  Then when you pass it to , you use the render()
function just as you're currently using the preserveSingleQuotes() function:


#render(Variables.myQueryString)#


But note that using the render() function with untrusted data opens you up
to CFML injection attacks so you'll need to sanitize for those.

Josh 

-Original Message-
From: David Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfquery - single quotes become doubled

Thanks all, PreserveSingleQuotes() solved the problem. 


>That's by design. ColdFusion is escaping your single quotes.
>
>You need to either wrap your string in the PreserveSingleQuotes() 
>function or, better, use 
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RE: what if the next CF...

[Josh Adams]

Tanguy and any others who might be using CFML on WebLogic--

Take a look at BlueDragon, BEA WebLogic Edition:

http://www.bea.com/framework.jsp?CNT=index.htm&FP=/content/products/weblogic
/bluedragon/

You should find that both the installation difficulty and size of required
CFML app server resources is significantly less when deploying BlueDragon
than you're finding them to be when deploying CFMX.

Josh 

-Original Message-
From: Tanguy Rademakers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 11:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: what if the next CF...

>You do realize this is possible now, right? If you install CFMX 7 using 
>the Multiserver installation option on, say, your laptop, you can write 
>your application, create an EAR/WAR which contains the entire CF 
>runtime, and give it to some J2EE app server admin and tell him to 
>deploy it. Of course, it's not free - you have to either include your 
>own license information (thus invalidating it on your own machine, 
>legally) or have that information added post-deployment.

We use the J2EE version of MX (equivalent to "Multiserver installation"?),
deploying in Weblogic, and i've got to say that, in my experience, it's a
little more hairy than that:

1) In Weblogic, CF has to be deployed as an exploded war / ear (as i recall,
this has something to do with needing read / write access to the
license.properties file). This means that the ear or war has to be uploaded
to each machine in the cluster, exploded, deployed from the weblogic
console, and then the license information needs to be updated separately in
each instance using the cf admin (although i think there are "cluster
friendly" serial numbers available). Contrast this with a "normal" java web
app, where you upload the war/jar/rar/ear using a web form on the weblogic
console and it is automatically deployed on all of the machines in the
cluster.

2) You have to deploy a full cf instance every time. Even if your app is a
simple five pager that doesn't need scheduled tasks,web services, or
whatever - you still need to deploy hundreds of megabytes of code, which
does affect memory usage and startup time for you app server. 

These are just our experiences in our environment, not enough to draw any
binding conclusions about the state of the product. But, here, small apps
that would be a natural for CF's feature set keep losing out to struts based
apps packaged as wars because the perception is that they are "easier to
setup and manage"... :(

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RE: what if the next CF...

[Josh Adams]

Yep, CFAnywhere was a project for running standalone CFML apps using
BlueDragon.  That project was before my time here at New Atlanta so I don't
know much about it.  A bit of web searching indicates that the guys behind
it were Steve Duys and Dick Applebaum (sorry if I'm missing someone) and
that it might have fallen off their radar screen because I can't find
anything about active development of that project nor can I even find an
active website for it.

Josh 

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
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Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 1:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: what if the next CF...

You can - I am sure there is tool for this, I cannot remember the name
(cfanywhere?)


 




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-Original Message-
From: Casey Dougall
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Fri Aug 04 23:56:06 2006
Subject: Re: what if the next CF...

It would be cool if you could deploy apps on cd.

Anyone on here use Coral Web Builder? You can build coldfusion applications
and deploy them on a auto run cd as one of the choices...

http://www.pcaonline.com/prod/index.cfm?loc=coral






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RE: Query problem with lists of values

[Josh Adams]

Why don't you use a join table via which to associate your items and
categories?

Josh 

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Forsythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Query problem with lists of values

that is kind of what I thought, but is there any way around this?


>This is happening of course because two of your like clauses "catid LIKE
'#uid#' AND catid LIKE '#uid#,' means that the 2 will match the 2 in '52,'.
This is the difficulty with this kind of set up.
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RE: Sharing Sessions between a .Net machine and a CF machine

[Josh Adams]

I'm going to write Ian directly again everyone but a point I'll make here
for all:

If you use BlueDragon and a bug in the application server causes a problem
that kills a patient (or whatever else), we at New Atlanta will answer for
that under the terms of our SLA and license agreement with you, just as any
other software vendor would.  We are an accountable and customer-responsive
organization in our 10th year of business.  We're here, we stand behind our
products, and we have no plans to go anywhere.

Josh 

-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 5:34 PM
To: Josh Adams
Cc: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: Sharing Sessions between a .Net machine and a CF machine

If so, then good--I'm here, man:  please tell me more about what you mean
when you say you can't get BlueDragon.

My company has shown no interest in the product.  We are a very restricted
environment.  Accountability is a big one that keeps us out of the open
source world.  This probably does not apply to New Atlanta and BlueDragon.
But, if a bug in the application server causes a problem that kills a
patient (ok worse case scenario, but we have had multi-million dollar blood
recalls due to human error), the company wants somebody to answer for that.


--
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Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
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RE: IIS 6.0

[Josh Adams]

IIS 6.0 has some great features like application pooling and process
recycling that can be really useful.  If you're just using it as a web
server and not as an application server you'll get more limited benefit from
those features.  But when running .NET applications (including but not
limited to BlueDragon.NET applications) some of those features can truly be
lifesavers.

Josh 

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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: IIS 6.0

We are putting up a brand new web server and want to know if anyone has an
opinion about upgrading to IIS 6.0.  I am currently using 5.1 on my
development box.

 

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East Stroudsburg University
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East Stroudsburg, Pa 18301
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RE: String Manipulation: get filename out of path

[Josh Adams]

Use the GetFileFromPath() function.

There are a very large number of helpful CFML functions built right into the
main CFML application servers--as soon as you can find the time, read
through them a bit.

Josh 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: String Manipulation: get filename out of path

I have this string, 

C:\CFusionMX7\wwwroot\Inherent\mich_state_bar\PDFS\userguide.pdf

I want to parse out the name of the pdf.  How do I do this?

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RE: Problem with tag

[Josh Adams]

So does  still get processed (I'm not sure where it lives in 
your app architecture) for the page with ?  If not, adjust things so 
that it does and see what happens.  :)

Josh 

-Original Message-
From: Lewis Billingsley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Problem with  tag

I’m not using .   I just link to a page outside of the 
directory protected by .   At the top of that page I have .  
And also, just for good measure, as a part of my testing, I put a  
tag at the sign-in form page, which is also outside of the protected directory. 
 None of it matters.  

I’m having another problem that may be not be related.  If I have a file 
in a directory that I’ve bringing up in my browser for testing, then 
move the file to a different directory, then point my browser to the address of 
the old location, it brings the file up, even though the file is no longer 
there.  I cleared my browser cache.  Another developer tried it from his 
machine and it came up in his browser too.  The server people told me that 
there was no server cache.   Huh?   Is that possible?  And could it be related 
to this problem? I had already tried session storage before, but that was when 
I used application.cfm instead of the componant.

>Wait, are you using a cflocation after your cflogout tag? If so, the 
>cfauthorization cookie probably isn't being set properly.
>
>Swap over to session storage as one of the other posters suggested and 
>you should be ok.
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