Re: SOT: cgi variables on Apache

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Deanna,

I don't think what you're asking for is possible.  With auth_user, you 
are using NT authentication.  IIS has that built in.  Apache, does not.

Your easiest bet is to switch back to IIS.

FWIW, if you were to have your authentication information available via 
LDAP, you could modify your code and Apache installation to use it.

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/httpd-ldap/


Deanna Schneider wrote:

>Hi Folks,
>We were running NT, and yesterday switched to Apache. Lo and behold, there's
>no cgi.auth_user variable. There's a similar variable (remote_user), though.
>The server admin says there's no way to create or map auth_user to pick up
>the remote_user's value. I know nothing about servers, but does anyone out
>there know if this is accurate, or if there might be a way around this other
>than changing all the code that uses auth_user?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Deanna Schneider
>Interactive Media Developer
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
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XML and IE 6 = Strange Bug

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Hi Everybody,

I just wanted to see if anyone had noticed the following strange behavior:

In spite of Microsoft's attempts to be XML this, XML that, their sodding
web-browser cannot seem to handle the HTML entity reference '
correctly.  I have taken to mapping it to its decimal representaion
(') but this seems idiotic considering how "XML-y" Microsoft
purports IE 6 to be.

Has anyone else noticed this?

FYI:  The browser in question is...
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461; .NET CLR
1.0.3705)

-- 
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Re: XML and IE 6 = Strange Bug

[Kreig Zimmerman]

This actually has everything to do with XML.

It is XML-ized data I am representing.

And XML-Safe data needs apostrophes escaped, and CFMX's built-in 
XMLFormat() renders an apostrophe as... '

Viz: 
http://wdvl.internet.com/Authoring/Languages/XML/XMLFamily/XMLSyntax/sall2_5.html

..so now you see the crux of my dilemma. The character returned via the 
XML _doesn't display correctly_ for me, for some bizarre reason.
But this in IE 6.  In Netscape 7?  It renders _fine_.

:P

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Oh wait...
>
>There is no ' special character.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 1:22 pm
>Subject: Re: XML and IE 6 = Strange Bug
>
>  
>
>>What does XML have to do with your problem?
>>
>>Anyhow, let's see your code.  I use the ' special character 
>>all the time in IE6 and it works fine.
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: Kreig Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:27 am
>>Subject: XML and IE 6 = Strange Bug
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi Everybody,
>>>
>>>I just wanted to see if anyone had noticed the following strange 
>>>behavior:
>>>In spite of Microsoft's attempts to be XML this, XML that, their 
>>>soddingweb-browser cannot seem to handle the HTML entity 
>>>  
>>>
>>reference 
>>
>>
>>>'correctly.  I have taken to mapping it to its decimal 
>>>representaion(') but this seems idiotic considering how "XML-
>>>y" Microsoft
>>>purports IE 6 to be.
>>>
>>>Has anyone else noticed this?
>>>
>>>FYI:  The browser in question is...
>>>Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461; .NET CLR
>>>1.0.3705)
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>Kreig Zimmerman : Sr. Web Programmer : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Four Eyes Productions : Brooklyn, NY : [718]254-9557 x[104]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>
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Re: XML and IE 6 = Strange Bug

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Oh, and for the record, it appears not to render correctly in either IE 
5 Mac or Windows.

I can't imagine no-one has seen this before.  Anybody?  Anybody? :)

Kreig Zimmerman wrote:

>This actually has everything to do with XML.
>
>It is XML-ized data I am representing.
>
>And XML-Safe data needs apostrophes escaped, and CFMX's built-in 
>XMLFormat() renders an apostrophe as... '
>
>Viz: 
>http://wdvl.internet.com/Authoring/Languages/XML/XMLFamily/XMLSyntax/sall2_5.html
>
>..so now you see the crux of my dilemma. The character returned via the 
>XML _doesn't display correctly_ for me, for some bizarre reason.
>But this in IE 6.  In Netscape 7?  It renders _fine_.
>
>:P
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Oh wait...
>>
>>There is no ' special character.
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Date: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 1:22 pm
>>Subject: Re: XML and IE 6 = Strange Bug
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>What does XML have to do with your problem?
>>>
>>>Anyhow, let's see your code.  I use the ' special character 
>>>all the time in IE6 and it works fine.
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: Kreig Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Date: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:27 am
>>>Subject: XML and IE 6 = Strange Bug
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>Hi Everybody,
>>>>
>>>>I just wanted to see if anyone had noticed the following strange 
>>>>behavior:
>>>>In spite of Microsoft's attempts to be XML this, XML that, their 
>>>>soddingweb-browser cannot seem to handle the HTML entity 
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>>
>>>reference 
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>'correctly.  I have taken to mapping it to its decimal 
>>>>representaion(') but this seems idiotic considering how "XML-
>>>>y" Microsoft
>>>>purports IE 6 to be.
>>>>
>>>>Has anyone else noticed this?
>>>>
>>>>FYI:  The browser in question is...
>>>>Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461; .NET CLR
>>>>1.0.3705)
>>>>
>>>>-- 
>>>>Kreig Zimmerman : Sr. Web Programmer : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>Four Eyes Productions : Brooklyn, NY : [718]254-9557 x[104]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
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Re: XML and IE 6 = Strange Bug

[Kreig Zimmerman]

That may be true, but swapping DTDs in and out changed nothing.  Already 
tried that, even adding an  declaration.  IE 6 didn't seem 
fooled in the least.

But since you mention this, and thank you for the help... if XHTML 1.0 
is a reformulation of HTML 4.01, I decided to see what w3.org had to 
say.  And i quote: [http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#guidelines]


C.16. The Named Character Reference '

The named character reference ' (the apostrophe, U+0027) was 
introduced in XML 1.0 but does not appear in HTML. Authors should 
therefore use ' instead of ' to work as expected in HTML 4 user 
agents.


..so I guess that's the way it is.

Still it seems strange Microsoft wouldn't fudge support for it anyway. 
 Netscape appeared to have done so...

Kevin Graeme wrote:

>What is the datatype definition for your page? The reason I ask is "'"
>is not an official character entity type in HTML 4. If you have a declared
>DTD of HTML 4, then the fact that Netscape supports it suggests that
>Netscape is in error.
>
>-Kevin Graeme
>
>  
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:kkz@;foureyes.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:48 PM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: XML and IE 6 = Strange Bug
>>
>>
>>This actually has everything to do with XML.
>>
>>It is XML-ized data I am representing.
>>
>>And XML-Safe data needs apostrophes escaped, and CFMX's built-in
>>XMLFormat() renders an apostrophe as... '
>>
>>Viz:
>>http://wdvl.internet.com/Authoring/Languages/XML/XMLFamily/XMLSynt
>>ax/sall2_5.html
>>
>>..so now you see the crux of my dilemma. The character returned via the
>>XML _doesn't display correctly_ for me, for some bizarre reason.
>>But this in IE 6.  In Netscape 7?  It renders _fine_.
>>
>>:P
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Oh wait...
>>>
>>>There is no ' special character.
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Date: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 1:22 pm
>>>Subject: Re: XML and IE 6 = Strange Bug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>What does XML have to do with your problem?
>>>>
>>>>Anyhow, let's see your code.  I use the ' special character
>>>>all the time in IE6 and it works fine.
>>>>
>>>>- Original Message -
>>>>From: Kreig Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Date: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:27 am
>>>>Subject: XML and IE 6 = Strange Bug
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>>I just wanted to see if anyone had noticed the following strange
>>>>>behavior:
>>>>>In spite of Microsoft's attempts to be XML this, XML that, their
>>>>>soddingweb-browser cannot seem to handle the HTML entity
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>reference
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>'correctly.  I have taken to mapping it to its decimal
>>>>>representaion(') but this seems idiotic considering how "XML-
>>>>>y" Microsoft
>>>>>purports IE 6 to be.
>>>>>
>>>>>Has anyone else noticed this?
>>>>>
>>>>>FYI:  The browser in question is...
>>>>>Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461; .NET CLR
>>>>>1.0.3705)
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Kreig Zimmerman : Sr. Web Programmer : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>Four Eyes Productions : Brooklyn, NY : [718]254-9557 x[104]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>
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Re: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP

[Kreig Zimmerman]

That's pretty much what I've done at my company as well.

CFSCRIPT is just so much cleaner, and easier to read.

CFML tends to be only used when we are annotating HTML.

Fregas wrote:

>I know a development firm that tends not to use  at all, but instead
>puts everything in  that they can.  They claim tags are deprecated
>in CFML.  ;)
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Rob Rohan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:42 PM
>Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP
>
>
>  
>
>>CF syntax is not ugly, but i do get tired of typing < >
>>Thank God for cfscript
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jeff@;farcryfly.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:28 PM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP
>>
>>
>>  That is interesting...
>>  Check out Slide 22 .
>>
>>   I wouldn't say that CF has an ugly syntax.  ( I doubt many on this list
>>would ).
>>
>>
>>At 05:13 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Check it out, in their presentation for why they chose PHP, they make
>>>reference as to why they didn't go with CF or ASP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>http://public.yahoo.com/~radwin/talks/yahoo-phpcon2002.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ben
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP

[Kreig Zimmerman]

No it's not, in and of itself.

However, thanks to CFMX, you can now build CFML-style UDFs, and thus 
swap out a CFML call with a CFSCRIPT-like UDF call.

Check out http://www.cflib.org/, if you haven't in the past.  The 
libraries are full of these.

Robert Everland wrote:

>I use it as much as I can also, but it is by no means a replacement for many
>of the cf tags.
>
>Robert Everland III
>Web Developer Extraordinaire
>Dixon Ticonderoga Company
>http://www.dixonusa.com 
>
>-----Original Message-
>From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:kkz@;foureyes.com] 
>Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:34 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP
>
>
>That's pretty much what I've done at my company as well.
>
>CFSCRIPT is just so much cleaner, and easier to read.
>
>CFML tends to be only used when we are annotating HTML.
>
>Fregas wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I know a development firm that tends not to use  at all, but 
>>instead puts everything in  that they can.  They claim tags 
>>are deprecated in CFML.  ;)
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Rob Rohan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:42 PM
>>Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>CF syntax is not ugly, but i do get tired of typing < >
>>>Thank God for cfscript
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jeff@;farcryfly.com]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:28 PM
>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>Subject: Re: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP
>>>
>>>
>>> That is interesting...
>>> Check out Slide 22 .
>>>
>>>  I wouldn't say that CF has an ugly syntax.  ( I doubt many on this 
>>>list would ).
>>>
>>>
>>>At 05:13 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>Check it out, in their presentation for why they chose PHP, they make 
>>>>reference as to why they didn't go with CF or ASP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://public.yahoo.com/~radwin/talks/yahoo-phpcon2002.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ben
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>
>
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Re: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP

[Kreig Zimmerman]

I guess I'm used to it.

I've also been a Macintosh user since '94. :O

Michael Ross wrote:

>You know, I am so sick and tired of having to defend CF, at work to other developers 
>here...  You know I don't see php, or asp people having do defend using those 
>languages.  WTF!!
>
>F%$# it I am changing career's and becoming a firefighter...
>
>
>  
>
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/30/02 01:07PM >>>
>>>>
>>>>
>No it's not, in and of itself.
>
>However, thanks to CFMX, you can now build CFML-style UDFs, and thus 
>swap out a CFML call with a CFSCRIPT-like UDF call.
>
>Check out http://www.cflib.org/, if you haven't in the past.  The 
>libraries are full of these.
>
>Robert Everland wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I use it as much as I can also, but it is by no means a replacement for many
>>of the cf tags.
>>
>>Robert Everland III
>>Web Developer Extraordinaire
>>Dixon Ticonderoga Company
>>http://www.dixonusa.com 
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:kkz@;foureyes.com] 
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:34 PM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP
>>
>>
>>That's pretty much what I've done at my company as well.
>>
>>CFSCRIPT is just so much cleaner, and easier to read.
>>
>>CFML tends to be only used when we are annotating HTML.
>>
>>Fregas wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>I know a development firm that tends not to use  at all, but 
>>>instead puts everything in  that they can.  They claim tags 
>>>are deprecated in CFML.  ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: "Rob Rohan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:42 PM
>>>Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>CF syntax is not ugly, but i do get tired of typing < >
>>>>Thank God for cfscript
>>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jeff@;farcryfly.com]
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:28 PM
>>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>>Subject: Re: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That is interesting...
>>>>Check out Slide 22 .
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't say that CF has an ugly syntax.  ( I doubt many on this 
>>>>list would ).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 05:13 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Check it out, in their presentation for why they chose PHP, they make 
>>>>>reference as to why they didn't go with CF or ASP
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://public.yahoo.com/~radwin/talks/yahoo-phpcon2002.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ben
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Need assistance with listbox on a form

[Kreig Zimmerman]

It seems that you did not prepend all the variables returned from the 
form with "form."

e.g.





Clark, Aimee wrote:

>Well, what it is that I am trying to accomplish is: The user goes to a form,
>fills out whatever needs to be changed and only the changes that they make
>are then emailed to the webmaster.
>
>So, the code that I have been having trouble with is all on the page that is
>called after the user submits their changes. The page looks like this
>(codewise):
>
>[snip]
>
>  
>

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Re: OT RAGE

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Yes,

And to add to a ridiculously off-topic thread: there is a lot of 
validity to the study of ebonics.  Insofar as linguistics goes, it's 
been proven that many of the syntactical structures of so-called Ebonics 
can be traced to African roots, and the earlier creoles spoken by the 
original African migrants to North America.

Unfortunately, this has gotten parodied in the mainstream media as a 
defense of "bad English" and slang.  However, the study of ebonics has 
nothing to do with slang.  That most people believe this is so, shows 
their own ignorance of the topic at hand.  So put down the copy of The 
National Review, and read something that was actually written in the field.

What you find might just surprise you.

Dwayne Cole wrote:

>>Personally, Isaac, I thought your comments were hilarious!
>>"Ebonics" was the biggest joke to ever come out of the educational
>>establishment and not enough fun could be "poked" at the idea.
>>And Prof. Cole, if you can't see that the bigger "joke" is ebonics
>>itself, you need to come out of that ivory tower and visit the real world.
>>
>>Lighten up...ebonics was a ridiculus idea...
>>
>>Rick
>>
>>
>
>
>Rick,
>
>Unless you are a linguistics, you too are showing your ignorance and your opinion.  
>It's ridiculus for a ColdFusion specialist to denigrate the hard work of committed 
>linguistics.  I'm familiar ebonics research and people in the field, pro and con, at 
>least respect the arguments. 
>
>=
>Prof. Dwayne Cole, MS in MIS, MBA
>Florida A&M University
>Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
>850-591-0212
> 
>"It can truely be said that nothing happens until there is vision. But it is equally 
>true that a vision with no underlying sense of purpose, no calling, is just a good 
>idea - all "sound and fury, signifiying nothing."  The Fifth Discipline - Peter Senge
>
>
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Re: Check Boxes - another NUG question

[Kreig Zimmerman]

The way I've always done this is this:

On the form page:



On the processing page:



..the benefit of this approach is that, should the checkbox be checked 
on the form page, form.ThisBox is passed to the processing page with  a 
value of "1".  When it is _not_ checked, it is not passed to the 
processing page at all; and the param tells CF that the default value 
for form.thisBox is "0".

Takes care of any problems.  The easiest way to do it, especially since 
I to tend to store checkbox values as BITs in the DB.

Kennerly, Rick H CIV wrote:

>When querying a db where some original input fields were check boxes and
>were inserted into the db as a binary (yes/no, 1/0, on/off), is the only way
>to display a check box on the query page, either checked or unchecked, to
>create a form and add an insert field?  If so, I'm having trouble with the
>conditional logic.  Is there an approach I'm overlooking.  
>
>Rick
>
>
>
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Re: Check Boxes - another NUG question

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Oh yeah, I may have slightly misunderstood the last question, so to add:

The way to do this on the form page is this:



..since it is a boolean we are using as a value, in the IIF, "1" 
evaluates to "true", and "0" to false.  Thus only "1"s make the checkbox 
be checked.

Randell B Adkins wrote:

>In the database field you can set the value to anything you want,
>however you will need to test for the value to properly
>set the checkboxes on the form to be checked or unchecked.
>
>Example:
>CheckBoxField: Value could be "AGREE" or DISAGREE"
>
>on the Form:
>qMyQuery.CheckBoxField EQ 'AGREE'>checked>
>
>
>  
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/02 10:29AM >>>


>When querying a db where some original input fields were check boxes
>and
>were inserted into the db as a binary (yes/no, 1/0, on/off), is the
>only way
>to display a check box on the query page, either checked or unchecked,
>to
>create a form and add an insert field?  If so, I'm having trouble with
>the
>conditional logic.  Is there an approach I'm overlooking.  
>
>Rick
>
>
>
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Re: Cfqueryparam and IN

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Sure.

Use ListQualify:


list="203,197";
WriteOutput(list&"");
fixlist=ListQualify(list,"'");
WriteOutput(fixlist);


203,197
'203','197'

Robert Everland wrote:

>I have a query that I had been just comparing one value so I could use a
>cfqueryparam of varchar, now that same variables may be passing something
>like 203,197 meaning that a sales rep belongs to each of those groups. So I
>need to change my query to something IN ('203','197') , but cfqueryparam
>doesn't let me do this. Do I need to use something else besides cfqueryparam
>or is there a setting I am not seeing that will allow me to use cfqueryparam
>and this?
>
>[snip]
>
>  
>

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Re: Cfqueryparam and IN

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Sure.

Use ListQualify:


 list="203,197";
 WriteOutput(list&"");
 fixlist=ListQualify(list,"'");
 WriteOutput(fixlist);


203,197
'203','197'

Robert Everland wrote:

 >I have a query that I had been just comparing one value so I could use a
 >cfqueryparam of varchar, now that same variables may be passing something
 >like 203,197 meaning that a sales rep belongs to each of those groups. 
So I
 >need to change my query to something IN ('203','197') , but cfqueryparam
 >doesn't let me do this. Do I need to use something else besides 
cfqueryparam
 >or is there a setting I am not seeing that will allow me to use 
cfqueryparam
 >and this?
 >
 >[snip]
 >
 >
 >

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Re: Studio MX

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OK.

Enough of the sermonizing as to why people are using this that and the 
other; why coders are coders and designers are designers and the twain 
shall never meet; and all sort of idiotic posturing.

There are THREE (3) core reasons that people whom have been in use of 
ColdFusion Studio have as a problem with Dreamweaver MX:

1) It is SLOOW.  Slow, as in molasses-slow.  I have a PIII/866 at 
work, 256MB RAM, and it hangs up and plays spin-the-cursor constantly on 
me.  This is ludicrous.  What is the recommended platform?  PIV+512MB 
RAM?  What kind of test platform were you using, Macromedia?

2) Text-searching.  When you are doing coding, you need good and fast 
find/replace, and most importantly, REGEX searching.  Dreamwaver MX has 
piss-poor support for these, eons below CF Studio's functionality.

3) Buggy.  Need I say any more?  I don't care whether you use Mac or PC, 
there is too many bugs that come a-cropper at the worst possible moments 
for Dreamweaver MX to be useful for any sort of truly useful 
productivity.  Add on top the aforementioned issues, and CF Studio (on 
PC) is the way to go (still).

As a sop, however, I will give one absolute positive:

1) Site Management.  This is a neat feature.  Unfortunately, it does 
straight time-stamp comparison instead of byte-length; unfortunately, it 
too is buggy; however, it si just about the only thing I use Dreamweaver 
MX for.  Improve it slightly, and we are yours forever.

PS What exactly is the purpose of Contribute?  Is that FrontPage MX? 
 How useful is it to any non-technical people--really?  What is the point?


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Re: Studio MX

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It absolutely causes better performance.  As of CFMX, that is.

The underlying Java translation is much quicker if it is not doing an 
absolute string comparison.

Lofback, Chris wrote:

>drop the pound signs for clarity and--I think--better
>performance.
>
>  
>

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Re: Studio MX

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No.  Len() is evaluated as a Boolean because in CF, True/False, Yes/No, 
and 1(+)/0 are all evaluated as Boolean pairs.

Trust me.  I use this everywhere in my own code.

Stephen Moretti wrote:

>
>  
>
>>And, really, I would use this:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>should be 
>
>
>
>BECAUSE Len() DOES NOT RETURN A BOOLEAN!
>
>
>
>I'll go away now..
>
>Stephen
>
>
>
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Re: and CF MX

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Sorry you weren't aware of the "ordering" issue.  It often makes me 
wonder what CFSTOREDPROC is really doing, aside from invoking a 
platform-specific call to an SP...

At any rate, the way I deal with null/not null situation is this:



..essentially, the whether or not it is NULL is determined by any 
string length of the parameter passed in.

It is a kludge, but a clever one which I lifted from another.

S. Isaac Dealey wrote:

>I knew there were reasons I had avoided using  prior to
>ColdFusion MX ...
>
>So with the advent of MX and not wanting to force my clients / customers to
>use the odbc bridge drivers, I decided to convert all of my "exec sp_myproc"
>syntax in  tags to  tags and after pounding my head
>for about an hour trying to figure out why a given procedure didn't work, I
>came accross 1 ( count them, ONE ) obscure reference on an obscure forum
>that mentions that the order of the  tags must be the same as
>the order of the parameters as defined in the stored procedure.
>
>Also, although the documentation for  says the attribute
>null="" takes a boolean, yes/no value, it does not -- it takes no value and
>passes null regardless of any value given.
>
>Does anyone know if either or both of these are still true in CFMX?
>
>Or if either of them are MSSQL specific and if so why?
>
>Not that it will matter much if I hope to continue to support CF5, but it's
>really annoying and frustrating to have to do this all the time:
>
>
>  value="#attributes.myattribute#"
>   cfsqltype="cf_sql_integer">
>
>  null cfsqltype="cf_sql_integer">
>
>
>Instead of simply using either a  statement (and allowing the
>procedure to use a default value) OR a null attribute, ie:
>
>
>   
>
>
>or
>
>
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Isaac Dealey
>Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
>
>New Epoch
>www.turnkey.to
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Re: and CF MX

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Well, it works for me.  I'd just check your code out.  That was 
production-level code I used as an example, so I'm 110% certain it works.

As for your comments...  yeah it's stupid.  But without knowing exactly 
what CFSTOREDPROC does, what's to say?

At any rate, I avoid that issue with abstraction--CFMX style.  The 
StoredProc is wrapped in a CFFUNCTION.  Any calls from my own code, it's 
a simple CFSCRIPT, e.g.:

  thoseQueries.GetStuff(id=12, bid=226)


What's the point of complaining about most CF limitations...  anyone 
who's worked on any major software knows all the compromises that must 
go into any project.  Maybe the guy who originally coded that 
fucntionality left half-way through his job for a dotcom of the time, 
and they never finished implementing it.  Maybe he got lost halfway 
through building it.  Maybe the piece was EOL'd.

As it is, I'm convinced CFQUERYPARAM was a kludge of its own, which 
"borrowed" CFPROCPARAM in order to solve the long column data insert 
issues in Oracle pre-4.5.

The fully implemented version of CFQUERYPARAM since 5.0 has thus blurred 
the boundaries between CFQUERY and CFSTOREDPROC.

Let's not forget that CFQUERY is probably doing a lot more than it was 
initially intended to do in CF's "design".

S. Isaac Dealey wrote:

>I tried this actually and in my experience even when it evalated to "no" it
>still passed a NULL to the stored procedure ... or at least that's what I
>remember... maybe I should test it again...
>
>I was aware of the ordering issue a few years ago when I worked in an office
>where  was required by the lead developer... we were actually
>not allowed to use  ... which sometimes created other problems...
>I'd gotten away from it in the interrim...
>
>What really boggles my mind is that the  tag requires a
>parameter name -- and yet, I can open up Query Analyzer and enter the
>parameters in any damned order, but I can't with  in spite of
>the fact that the parameters are named. And it's not documented...
>
>Isaac
>Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
>
>www.turnkey.to
>954-776-0046
>
>
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Re: More info RE:

[Kreig Zimmerman]

I wasn't saying it was just a kludge.  I was saying that it STARTED as a 
kludge.  Remember, it was sort-of half-finished and non-documented in CF4.5.

I never said it wasn't useful.  I think CFQUERYPARAM is fantastic.  I 
user it in all inline queries; I wouldn't dream of dropping a CF 
variable straight in the middle of the SQL buffer at this point! :)

Rob Brooks-Bilson wrote:

>One final thing.  If you do use the cfquery method, you should use
>cfqueryparam (it wasn't a kludge just to solve long column data problems in
>older versions of CF) for each parameter you pass.  This allows you bind
>  
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Re: Query to CSV problem

[Kreig Zimmerman]

If using CF5+, you can use this UDF:

http://cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=404

Colin Murphy wrote:

>I am looking for a solution to outputing a query to a CSV file.
>
>[snip]
>  
>

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CFLOGINUSER bug

[Kreig Zimmerman]

I'm posting this here because I haven't had a response on the Macromedia 
CF Security Forum.

I'd like to submit the bug to Macromedia...  anybody got that URL handy?

Found two now! :)

Hi all

While attempting to use the new CF security architecture in our 
pre-existing web application (such as the security architecture is; the 
only attraction for me right now is the CFC security), I've uncovered a 
seeming bug in the CFLOGNUSER tag.

Specifically, when invoked, I have to treat any numeric values with a 
ToString().

That's awfully Java-esque for an un-typed language like CF, is it not?

To test yourself, try the following:

[cflogin]
  [cfloginuser name="HowdyDoody" password="x" roles="1"]
[/cflogin]

..this should throw one of those bizarro-NEO errors which we love so 
much, complaining about "null null" summat.

Then try:

[cflogin]
  [cfloginuser name="HowdyDoody" password="x" roles="#ToString(1)#"]
[/cflogin]

..and that works just fine.

How much of an afterthought was this security architecture, Macromedia?



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Re: CFLOGINUSER bug

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Raymond Camden wrote:

>>How much of an afterthought was this security architecture, 
>>Macromedia?
>>
>>
>
>Not at all. I know you are being a bit sarcastic, but this _was_ a well
>thought feature. That being said, it is 'new' and has a few kinks that
>will be worked out in future updates.
>
Yeah, I'm being sarcastic :P that's my middle name, BTW.

It seems alright, I just wish there was say, a CFLOGIN attributes class that you could 
refer to for say, re-validation and the like.

Although that might represent a security hole of its own.

Either way it was "drag-n-drop" for me.

[snip]

>Kreig, I can't reproduce this bug. Can you show me the complete error
>message?

Certainly.  Forwarded under separate cover.

As it is...  you are correct.  It didn't cause me a problem for an inline numeric 
value.

However, my "role" is being returned via a query object from a SP.  That's what causes 
it to "freak".


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Re: Developer Platform suggestions was Re: Nice

[Kreig Zimmerman]

I have to say as regards Dell...

I've found the OptiPlex (business line) to be rock-solid
Dimension (consumer-line)...  always some weird problem.

Any similar experience?  Point is if Dell, I would HIGHLY recommend you 
go for their business-line system.

Tony Carcieri wrote:

>Damn, I didn't know they were doing that! I have always had a Dell at work
>and have never had problems. i tried to talk my father-in-law into it, but
>nope, he liked his Gateway...he's wishing he had a Dell now ;-)
>
>  
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Re:

[Kreig Zimmerman]

And if you don't want to use a custom tag, and have CF 5, you can use 
CFSAVECONTENT to define your header info.

Try:


 // LANGUAGE attribute is redundant and has been 
deprecated
window.open("../index.cfm","mainApp","width="+parseInt(screen.availWidth * 
.90)+",height="+parseInt(screen.availHeight *
90)+",status=yes,top=0,left=0,resizable");




..depending on your app design, you may have to include  tags 
around the  in the  area.

John Beynon wrote:

>You tried cf_htmlhead instead? I had some issues with quotes etc in the
>cfhtmlhead tag and htmlhead solved it...
>
>Pretty sure that allows you do to:
>
>   ...javascript here
>
>
>HTH,
>
>John.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Critter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>Sent: 27 September 2002 17:09
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: 
>
>
>oi CF-Talk,!!
>
>  I've got a tag that says this:
>  
>
>  but when the page is processed all that shows is:
>  void(0);
>
>
>
>  any ideas?
>
>
>
>  --
>  Critz
>   Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
>Channel="ColdFusion" Blog="http://blog.ctzc.com";>
>
>
>
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Re: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Hate to burst your bubble but...

..the resale value of that chair ain't what you think it is.

Seems the reseller market is flooded with them!!! :P

Jeffry Houser wrote:

>  I love this chair.  It is comfortable.  It is the one area where I 
>decided to splurge (during a particularly good year).  And it seemed to 
>make sense because I spend 12+ hours a day at this computer.
>
>  Once I bought it, my back problems just about all but went away.
>
>  Although, now I started exercising and everything hurts.
>
>  Maybe someday I'll buy one for my basement (err... living room) recording 
>studio.
>
>
>At 05:08 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>  
>
>>those are the chairs...
>>
>>Glad to see you bought your own Jeff...
>>
>>I was reading a friends account of another defunct shop close out and
>>the sadness of witnessing the dorks trying to cram there Aeron chair
>>into their Saabs...
>>
>>Something redeeming about watching the waste be laid down.
>>
>>Paris Lundis
>>Founder
>>Areaindex, L.L.C.
>>http://www.areaindex.com
>>http://www.pubcrawler.com
>>412-292-3135
>>[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
>>[connecting people, places and things]
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:06:07 -0400
>>Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
>>
>>
>>
>>>  Just for the record, my Herman Miller Aeron B Chair was worth every
>>>cent.
>>>
>>>  ( I'm putting it on eBay in January to pay the mortgage )
>>>
>>>At 03:36 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
At least now I can laugh that Mr. Know It All but Knows Nothing Web
Dorks and the idiot business school wanks with their bullshit $800
chairs and stupid gimmicks are back at their mostly trivial jobs for
mostly someone else...


>>>
>>>--
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>>>DotComIt, Putting you on the web
>>>AIM: Reboog711  | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
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>>>
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>>>
>>>  
>>>
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Re: Flash Communication Server

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Would be nice if it worked in Netscape 7.0.

Drew Harris wrote:

>WOW!!!
>That rocks!
>-Drew Harris
>
>-- Original Message --
>From: "Ben Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date:  Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:43:22 -0600
>
>  
>
>>Huynh,
>>  We have as well.  Most of it is messing around but we're setting
>>up a teleconference for a trade show that will be using FCS.  We also
>>played around with a collaborative ER Diagramming tool:
>>
>>http://www.glasswarrior.com/er-diagram.html
>>
>>
>>Why do you ask?
>>
>>
>>Ben Johnson
>>Information Architect
>>www.architekture.com
>>[p] 720.934.2179
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:09 PM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: RE: Flash Communication Server
>>
>>yes.
>>
>>I am guessing there is more behind your question, but i have no idea
>>what it is.
>>
>>mike chambers
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Huynh Weiming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:48 PM
>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>Subject: Flash Communication Server
>>>
>>>
>>>Has anyboy got it to work?
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>>
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RE: Usability

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--- On Thu 07/10, Chunshen (Don) Li < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:



From: Chunshen (Don) Li [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



>If a user is comfortable with "Foo must be a valid, non-negative >number without 
>fractions or decimals" wouldn't he/she be comfortable >with

>"Enter an integer for this entry/field"? And the later seems simpler.





Ladies and Gentlemen, I bring you...



The Stereotype of the Humorless Engineer!!! :)



Sorry Don, but I think you've done a little of that Q.E.D. ;)



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RE: Usability

[Kreig Zimmerman]

QED

abbr.



Latin. quod erat demonstrandum (which was to be demonstrated).



--- On Thu 07/10, Chunshen (Don) Li < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:



Kreig,

What does Q.E.D stand for?

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RE: Usability

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Yeah sorry about that, I was a Lit major and all... ;)





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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Quod Erat DemonstratumBasically, "what is demonstrated". It's a high brow way 
of saying "it'splainly obvious and you're stupid for not seeing 
it".-Kevin> -Original M

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RE: Usability

[Kreig Zimmerman]

No man...



...it's because the way I read that other poster, his hyper-correct error message was 
intended as tongue-in-cheek.



Don't get yer knickers in a twist...



 --- On Thu 07/10, Chunshen (Don) Li < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

From: Chunshen (Don) Li [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



>Quod Erat DemonstratumFrom the "tum" ending of the word, Demonstratum, I know 
>it's Latin, but I don't know Latin.Kreig Zimmerman, bastard, insulted me for 
>what, not knowing Latin?

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Re: MM Rich Text Editor - WAS: RE: Macromedia Contribute

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Bleeaghhh... steaming pile of code turds.

It's a case of "you get what you pay for."

Personally, my money would be on 
http://www.editlive.com/product/editliveforjava/default.asp

Although a bit pricey, it takes care of cross-platform nastiness much 
more efficiently than just about any other editor I've seen.

I've not seen any other editors that have impressed me so much.  Most 
all have major issues on Macs, or require horrendous workarounds to 
function upon it.  Certainly soEditor provides no solution, since it's 
IE/Win only.


Timothy Heald wrote:

>You should look at soEditor also.
>
>http://www.siteobjects.com/pages/order.cfm?object=65&method=viewCart
>
>Tim
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 11:00 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: MM Rich Text Editor - WAS: RE: Macromedia Contribute
>
>
>I would think that given those abilities that integrating it into an
>intranet security context would provide functionality for permissions.
>Personally, I'd rather have something that lets me control file/edit
>permissions and simply sticks to editing capabilities. I want a
>super-form-control more than a content manager - I'll handle the content
>management as it applies to my specific application.
>
>Is there a version of the DRK2 Rich Text Editor online anywhere that I
>could try before I buy? I'd like to be able to make an informed decision
>before jumping into something.
>
>Although from the looks of ActivEdit it's going to be hard to beat.
>
>Joshua Miller
>Head Programmer / IT Manager
>Garrison Enterprises Inc.
>www.garrisonenterprises.net
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(704) 569-9044 ext. 254
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>-Original Message-
>From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:32 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: Macromedia Contribute
>
>
>There are built-in controls to limit users to a particular directory;
>disallow editing of scripts/includes/forms/ or even anything but text;
>allow or disallow the ability to assign css styles, and disable the
> tag and even inline css styles. You can limit users to only edit
>pages, create pages based on templates, , create pages by copying any
>existing page, or make anything from scratch. And you can define a file
>size limit to how large of a graphic can be used on a page (in KB, not
>dimensions.)
>
>That's pretty much what you can control. You can create groups of users
>with different permissions. Other than that, it's not really extensible
>for permissions from what I can see.
>
>-Kevin
>
>  
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:30 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: Macromedia Contribute
>>
>>
>>Samuel R. Neff wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If that's what you want you can take a look at
>>>MM's DRK2 which has a Rich Text Editor component for Flash.  It
>>>  
>>>
>>can easily
>>
>>
>>>be wrapped into a stand-alone widget for embedding in HTML and
>>>  
>>>
>>an also be
>>
>>
>>>extended.
>>>  
>>>
>>Does anyone have this, who would like to comment on how extendable it 
>>is? For example. if I wanted to limit the html editing controls my 
>>users had (no fonts or colours, for example, or only stylesheet 
>>classes) could I do this? Or say I wanted to change the colour of the 
>>component to match my app...
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Kay.
>>
>>
>>--
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>>
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>>
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>>
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RE: Passing URL in query string

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Pass it over using URLEncodedFormat().  This will preserve its integrity by
escaping all of the non-URL-safe characters.

Then interpret the received variable ("url.url") using URLDecode().

> > -Original Message-
> > From: Phillip B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:40 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Passing URL in query string
> >
> >
> > I have a link that has to have another link passed in the query 
> > string. This makes the link I click look like this.
> > index.cfm?go=yes&url=http://www.asdf.com/index.cfm?x=x&y=y
> > The problem is that when index.cfm gets it, it sees the 
> variables go, url
> > and y. 3 vars insted of two. What I need is to make sure 
> the var y stays
> > with the url var.
> >
> > I hope that this is a better explanation.
> >
> > Phillip B.
> >
> >
> >
> > > what exactly do you mean?
> > >
> > > anything in the url string, is in the url string to stay.
> > >
> > > ...tony
> > >
> > > Tony Weeg
> > > Senior Web Developer
> > > UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> > > Information System Design
> > > Navtrak, Inc.
> > > Mobile workforce monitoring, mapping & reporting www.navtrak.net
> > > 410.548.2337
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Phillip B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:25 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Passing URL in query string
> > >
> > >
> > > Whats the best way to pass this 
> > > http://www.asdf.com/index.cfm?x=x&y=y
> > > and keep everything after the "&" with the passed URL?
> > >
> > > Phillip B.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> 
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RE: Moving a custom tag (CF5)

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Use  to point directly to the tag on the server (assuming the tag
is placed at the root level of the Custom Tags diectory...), viz. 

This _should_ work... please note that I haven't time to test this directly
myself!

Also check docs online:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/ultradev/content/cf_custom_tag/cf_custom_t
ag03.html

Regards,

:: Kreig K. Zimmerman :: CF Hound ::

-Original Message-
From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Moving a custom tag (CF5)


I'd like to move a custom tag from a web site's local directory tree to one
designated in the CF Server Administrator's 'Custom Tag Paths'.  This is so
that it can be used by another web site and so I don't have to maintain
multiple copies of the tag.

How do I get CF to recognize the new location (short of cycling CF)?
Temporarily, I can just leave a copy of the tag in the local path until I
need to reboot CF or the server itself, but I run into this problem
periodically.

Jim


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RE: XML settings files for CF apps

[Kreig Zimmerman]

> -Original Message-
> From: webguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> Got to look at the bigger picture. If you are using cf only
> and forever then a cfm settings file is fine. In fact its
> probably faster. But what if you start to move to java ? Or
> you want to create a VB app as a config editor...??
>
I would agree with this.  Although, to be honest, when I made this change to
the application I was working on last, there was also a bit of the "because
I can" and "it was possible" w/ CFMX.

> That's the real advantage of XML.
>
> As for speed, once you parse the XML you can stick the DOM
> into application scope. No need to read it ever time.

Agreed.  This would address said issue.


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RE: Breadcrumb navigation CF Tutorial

[Kreig Zimmerman]

No, but...

...the way I've done it is to use a two-dimensional array; With
arBreadCrumbTrail[x][1] holding the "name", and arBreadCrumbTrail[x][2]
holding the "link"; then a  from 1 to ArrayLen() around it, and
Bob's yer Uncle.

If you'd like further detail, or this doesn't quite answer your question,
please e-mail me off-list.

Regards,

:: Kreig K. Zimmerman :: CF Hound ::

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> From: Luis Lebron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:39 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Breadcrumb navigation CF Tutorial
>
>
> Does anyone know of a good tutorial on creating breadcrumb
> navigation with CF?
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Luis R. Lebron
> Project Manager
> Sigmatech, Inc
>
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Re: Dynamic form actions

[Kreig Zimmerman]

..which works if that is the only form on the page.

The best method is to refer to it as document.forms['formname']
  - Original Message - 
  From: Douglas Brown 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:46 PM
  Subject: Re: Dynamic form actions


  or use document.forms[0]




  Douglas Brown
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  - Original Message -
  From: "Matthew R. Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:51 AM
  Subject: RE: Dynamic form actions


  > Try replacing document.formname.action with this.formname.action and
  > replace formname with the name of the form.
  >
  > - Matt Small
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Matthew Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:10 PM
  > To: CF-Talk
  > Subject: RE: Dynamic form actions
  >
  >
  > I tried this code.
  >
  > Works great in IE and Modzilla, but not in Net 4.7
  >
  > any suggestions
  >
  > matt
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:54 PM
  > To: CF-Talk
  > Subject: RE: Dynamic form actions
  >
  >
  > Sure it is:
  >
  >
  >   src="image2.gif" onclick="document.formname.action = 'page2.cfm';
  > document.formname.submit();">
  >
  >
  > - Matt Small
  >
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Matthew Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:38 PM
  > To: CF-Talk
  > Subject: Dynamic form actions
  >
  >
  > Is there a way to have a form with two  images as buttons, but will send
  > the form fields to a different url.
  >
  > i.e. you have two form fields
  > Username
  > Password
  >
  > and image A and Image B
  > If you hit image A the form is posted to www.a.com
  > and if you hit image B the form is posted to www.b.com
  >
  > the JavaScript to submit the form is simple but can you control the
  > "action" location.
  >
  > Any help would be great.
  >
  >
  > Matt Friedman
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > 
  
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Bug in MX w/ CFQUERYPARAM?

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Hello All,

We upgraded our test server to CFMX this weekend (w/ Apache 1.3.20 WS).

Most all of our queries that accept user input are sanitized before being
inserted in the DB in an Update statment, to whit:


UPDATE
[dbo].[Sizes]
SET
[Jumbo] = 
WHERE
[SizeID] = 


This works fine in CF 5. However, after upgrading to CFMX, I find that now
CF is attempting to "Preserve Single Quotes" in the value. Which makes no
sense.

It does this ONLY when I have the HTMLEditFormat() and/or Trim() functions
inline. (I didn't test other string functions, but they're not directly
relelvant to my issue either.)

It does this with BOTH SQL Server and ODBC Socket drivers.

If I treat the string beforehand, e.g.
..
joe=HTMLEditFormat(Trim(attributes.Jumbo));
..
SET
[Jumbo] = 
..

then MX does NOT attempt to double up single quotes (Preserve Single
Quotes).

Being as this functions differently from CF5 I'm wondering--is this a bug or
a feature? Has anyone else encountered this issue?

Thanks.


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Re: Bug in MX w/ CFQUERYPARAM?

[Kreig Zimmerman]

I don't even know how to submit a bug :)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Stacy Young 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 5:33 PM
  Subject: RE: Bug in MX w/ CFQUERYPARAM?


  Well I tried to submit it but got a "Page could not be displayed"...but I
  think it went thru.

  -Original Message-
  From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 5:29 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Bug in MX w/ CFQUERYPARAM?

  I had the same problembut to be honest I didn't know it was the inline
  TRIM. Since it was a small personal app I was working on I had just removed
  the CFQUERYPARAM. (I just verified and I WAS using TRIM() inside the tag)

  I was working with Win2k OS, Built-in Web Server running CFMX final. Single
  quotes were added to my input parameters.

  Have you submitted this as a bug yet?

  Stace



  -Original Message-
  From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 4:35 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Bug in MX w/ CFQUERYPARAM?

  Hello All,

  We upgraded our test server to CFMX this weekend (w/ Apache 1.3.20 WS).

  Most all of our queries that accept user input are sanitized before being
  inserted in the DB in an Update statment, to whit:

  
  UPDATE
  [dbo].[Sizes]
  SET
  [Jumbo] = 
  WHERE
  [SizeID] = 
  

  This works fine in CF 5. However, after upgrading to CFMX, I find that now
  CF is attempting to "Preserve Single Quotes" in the value. Which makes no
  sense.

  It does this ONLY when I have the HTMLEditFormat() and/or Trim() functions
  inline. (I didn't test other string functions, but they're not directly
  relelvant to my issue either.)

  It does this with BOTH SQL Server and ODBC Socket drivers.

  If I treat the string beforehand, e.g.
  .
  joe=HTMLEditFormat(Trim(attributes.Jumbo));
  .
  SET
  [Jumbo] = 
  .

  then MX does NOT attempt to double up single quotes (Preserve Single
  Quotes).

  Being as this functions differently from CF5 I'm wondering--is this a bug or
  a feature? Has anyone else encountered this issue?

  Thanks.




  
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Re: cfargument and dot notaion

[Kreig Zimmerman]

No...

I mean that in a UDF such as:

function HopeThisWorks (arg1, arg2, arg3) {


..is specifying the arguments enough to initialize the corresponding variables?

In other words, after creating said UDF, would the call 
HopeThisWorks(arg3="CrossFingers") be enough, without paraming the other arguments 
within the UDF's body?  Or would the UDF crash and burn if the arguments were not 
paramed somehow within the UDF's body?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raymond Camden 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:42 AM
  Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion


  You mean how do dynamically pass crap to a UDF? Like attributeCollection
  in custom tags? Use argumentCollection:

  
  

  

  That should work.

  ===
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  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Yahoo IM : morpheus

  "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 

  > -Original Message-
  > From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:34 AM
  > To: CF-Talk
  > Subject: Re: cfargument and dot notaion
  > 
  > 
  > How do we param out arguments in a UDF then?
  >   - Original Message - 
  >   From: Raymond Camden 
  >   To: CF-Talk 
  >   Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:12 PM
  >   Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
  > 
  > 
  >   Yes, the order of args must match the order of cfarg tags.
  > 
  >   Unless...
  > 
  >   You use the new name/value pair notation, which works w/ 
  > UDFs as well:
  > 
  >   
  > 
  >   
  > ==
  > =
  >   Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia
  > 
  >   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   Yahoo IM : morpheus
  > 
  >   "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 
  > 
  >   > -Original Message-
  >   > From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  >   > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:07 PM
  >   > To: CF-Talk
  >   > Subject: cfargument and dot notaion
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >   When calling a cfc method using the dot notation, the 
  > order of the
  >   >   arguments given to the method must match the order of 
  > the cfargument
  >   >   tags in the body of the method, unlike cfinvoke, where 
  > you have name
  >   >   value pairs.
  >   >   
  >   >   Example:
  >   >   
  >   >  > objEmailMan.isDupe(trim(singleAddress),emailCategoryID)>
  >   > 
  >   >   -- emailman.cfc --
  >   >   
  >   >type="string">
  >   >  > type="numeric">
  >   >   
  >   >   
  >   >   Is this correct? It seems to be so, but I can't find anything
  >   >   anywhere that comes out and says it is the order that matters.
  >   > 
  >   > -- 
  >   >  Jon
  >   >   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   
  > 
  
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Re: cfargument and dot notaion

[Kreig Zimmerman]

That's what I thought.  Oh well then.

Good thing that CFCs don't behave this way.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raymond Camden 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 PM
  Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion


  No, because in script based UDFs, if you list them, they are required.
  If you want to use optional args in script based UDFs, you can't have
  them between the parens.

  ===
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  > -Original Message-----
  > From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:02 PM
  > To: CF-Talk
  > Subject: Re: cfargument and dot notaion
  > 
  > 
  > No...
  > 
  > I mean that in a UDF such as:
  > 
  > function HopeThisWorks (arg1, arg2, arg3) {
  > 
  > 
  > ..is specifying the arguments enough to initialize the 
  > corresponding variables?
  > 
  > In other words, after creating said UDF, would the call 
  > HopeThisWorks(arg3="CrossFingers") be enough, without 
  > paraming the other arguments within the UDF's body?  Or would 
  > the UDF crash and burn if the arguments were not paramed 
  > somehow within the UDF's body?
  >   - Original Message - 
  >   From: Raymond Camden 
  >   To: CF-Talk 
  >   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:42 AM
  >   Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
  > 
  > 
  >   You mean how do dynamically pass crap to a UDF? Like 
  > attributeCollection
  >   in custom tags? Use argumentCollection:
  > 
  >   
  >   
  > 
  >   
  > 
  >   That should work.
  > 
  >   
  > ==
  > =
  >   Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia
  > 
  >   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   Yahoo IM : morpheus
  > 
  >   "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 
  > 
  >   > -Original Message-
  >   > From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  >   > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:34 AM
  >   > To: CF-Talk
  >   > Subject: Re: cfargument and dot notaion
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   > How do we param out arguments in a UDF then?
  >   >   - Original Message - 
  >   >   From: Raymond Camden 
  >   >   To: CF-Talk 
  >   >   Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:12 PM
  >   >   Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >   Yes, the order of args must match the order of cfarg tags.
  >   > 
  >   >   Unless...
  >   > 
  >   >   You use the new name/value pair notation, which works w/ 
  >   > UDFs as well:
  >   > 
  >   >   
  >   > 
  >   >   
  >   > ==
  >   > =
  >   >   Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia
  >   > 
  >   >   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   >   Yahoo IM : morpheus
  >   > 
  >   >   "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 
  >   > 
  >   >   > -Original Message-
  >   >   > From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  >   >   > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:07 PM
  >   >   > To: CF-Talk
  >   >   > Subject: cfargument and dot notaion
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   When calling a cfc method using the dot notation, the 
  >   > order of the
  >   >   >   arguments given to the method must match the order of 
  >   > the cfargument
  >   >   >   tags in the body of the method, unlike cfinvoke, where 
  >   > you have name
  >   >   >   value pairs.
  >   >   >   
  >   >   >   Example:
  >   >   >   
  >   >   >  >   > objEmailMan.isDupe(trim(singleAddress),emailCategoryID)>
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   -- emailman.cfc --
  >   >   >   
  >   >   >  > type="string">
  >   >   >  >   > type="numeric">
  >   >   >   
  >   >   >   
  >   >   >   Is this correct? It seems to be so, but I can't 
  > find anything
  >   >   >   anywhere that comes out and says it is the order 
  > that matters.
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > -- 
  >   >   >  Jon
  >   >   >   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   
  >   > 
  >   
  > 
  
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Re: cfargument and dot notaion

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Yes, yes I understand.  I meant CFFunction, not CFCs per se.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raymond Camden 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:24 PM
  Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion


  It's not CFCs per se, but cffunction. So it applies to tag based UDFs as
  well - don't forget cffunction can be used outside of CFCs.

  ===
  Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia

  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Yahoo IM : morpheus

  "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 

  > -Original Message-
  > From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:15 PM
  > To: CF-Talk
  > Subject: Re: cfargument and dot notaion
  > 
  > 
  > That's what I thought.  Oh well then.
  > 
  > Good thing that CFCs don't behave this way.
  >   - Original Message - 
  >   From: Raymond Camden 
  >   To: CF-Talk 
  >   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 PM
  >   Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
  > 
  > 
  >   No, because in script based UDFs, if you list them, they 
  > are required.
  >   If you want to use optional args in script based UDFs, you 
  > can't have
  >   them between the parens.
  > 
  >   
  > ==
  > =
  >   Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia
  > 
  >   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   Yahoo IM : morpheus
  > 
  >   "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 
  > 
  >   > -Original Message-
  >   > From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  >   > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:02 PM
  >   > To: CF-Talk
  >   > Subject: Re: cfargument and dot notaion
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   > No...
  >   > 
  >   > I mean that in a UDF such as:
  >   > 
  >   > function HopeThisWorks (arg1, arg2, arg3) {
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   > ..is specifying the arguments enough to initialize the 
  >   > corresponding variables?
  >   > 
  >   > In other words, after creating said UDF, would the call 
  >   > HopeThisWorks(arg3="CrossFingers") be enough, without 
  >   > paraming the other arguments within the UDF's body?  Or would 
  >   > the UDF crash and burn if the arguments were not paramed 
  >   > somehow within the UDF's body?
  >   >   - Original Message - 
  >   >   From: Raymond Camden 
  >   >   To: CF-Talk 
  >   >   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:42 AM
  >   >   Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >   You mean how do dynamically pass crap to a UDF? Like 
  >   > attributeCollection
  >   >   in custom tags? Use argumentCollection:
  >   > 
  >   >   
  >   >   
  >   > 
  >   >   
  >   > 
  >   >   That should work.
  >   > 
  >   >   
  >   > ==
  >   > =
  >   >   Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia
  >   > 
  >   >   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   >   Yahoo IM : morpheus
  >   > 
  >   >   "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 
  >   > 
  >   >   > -Original Message-
  >   >   > From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  >   >   > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:34 AM
  >   >   > To: CF-Talk
  >   >   > Subject: Re: cfargument and dot notaion
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > How do we param out arguments in a UDF then?
  >   >   >   - Original Message - 
  >   >   >   From: Raymond Camden 
  >   >   >   To: CF-Talk 
  >   >   >   Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:12 PM
  >   >   >   Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   Yes, the order of args must match the order of cfarg tags.
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   Unless...
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   You use the new name/value pair notation, which works w/ 
  >   >   > UDFs as well:
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   
  >   >   > ==
  >   >   > =
  >   >   >   Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia
  >   >   > 
  >   >   >   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   >   >   Yahoo IM : morpheus
  >   >   >

Re: Recurring events in database driven calendar

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Having built a recurring events system myself, I found that the best way to do it was 
to have all recurring events written to the DB, with marker connecting them to the 
parent row.  This is due to the overhead of calculating these events for a dynanmic 
calendar format--if the rows exist, it is simply a DB query; if not, these recurrences 
must be re-created programatically each time events within a date range are requested.

Just my experience.  It was difficult enough getting the recurring events to work 
correctly!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Seth Petry-Johnson 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:23 PM
  Subject: Recurring events in database driven calendar


  Hello all, I am re-designing a database driven calendar application.  I want
  to support recurring events (such as a weekly meeting) and I was looking for
  a few design suggestions.  Basically, I want a user to be able to enter an
  event and specify that it happens on a repeating schedule: every week, once
  a month, etc.  When a user views the calendar I want these to appear, but I
  do not want to have to enter a record into the database for each occurrence
  of that event.  In other words, if an event happens weekly I want to have
  one database record, not a separate record for each week of each month of
  each year, etc.

  Does anyone have any experience with this sort of thing that they would like
  to share?  I am specifically interested in the best way to store the
  information about the repeat schedule in the database, and the most
  efficient way to query against this data to find which events will fall on
  any given day.

  Thanks in advance,
  Seth Petry-Johnson
  Argo Enterprise and Associates

  
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Re: Recurring events in database driven calendar

[Kreig Zimmerman]

- Original Message - 
From: S. Isaac Dealey 
To: CF-Talk 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Recurring events in database driven calendar


[snip] Just pray they don't ask you for the ability to schedule events that occur
"every third thursday of the month". [/snip]

..exactly why I eventually had data written to the DB at the time of the event 
building.  Many many people do things on the "Fourth Wednesday of the Month" model.  
It's when business practices clash with programming practices.

[snip] You might run into problems with the first weekly event needing to be on the
first week of the month in order to prevent gaps at the beginning of
following months... ahh well... dates have always frustrated me in SQL
Server... [/snip]

I'd agree. I find Oracle to be much better at handling this sort of thing.  Dates and 
times are handled very clumsily in SQL Server, esp. with the limited date/time 
formatting model.


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Re: Cracking an Access file

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Yeah...  hold down the "SHIFT" key while launching Access (assuming you double-clicked 
the file itself).

That's file security for you...  MS-style. :)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Wheatley 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:40 PM
  Subject: OT: Cracking an Access file 


  Ok my fair friends ;) Thanks for all the help on the text editor I used
  TEXTPAD works pretty well opened a 500 meg files with it ;)

   

  And now I have an access file that has a username/password. I need to
  get access to the file and I don't remember the logins.

  Any idea how to crack an access file ;)

   

   

   

  Bill Wheatley

  Senior Database Developer

  Ediets.com

  Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer

  954.360.9022 X159

   


  
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Re: CFMX OS X [rant]

[Kreig Zimmerman]

How is MacOS X not a true Unix?

It is BSD Unix under the hood.  You can run anything on it that could run in said 
environment.  There is nothing about OS X that makes it "less Unix" than the older 
commercial Unices.  If you want to see for yourself, go check out a Mac with OSX on 
it.  Go check out Darwin, the opensource project at Apple which represents the 
underlying BSD Unix layer of MacOS X.
http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/faq.html.  What Apple has added on top 
of BSD Unix is Aqua (the window manager) and Carbon (the API layer for Macintosh 
apps), plus Cocoa etc. etc.  But it is still BSD Unix.

To paraphrase what someone else said today on this list, it is indeed Unix with an 
extremely fancy window manager.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Neil Clark - =TMM= 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:36 PM
  Subject: RE: CFMX OS X [rant]


  I mean commerical providers.  And I wouldn't call Apple OS a true 'Nix,
  not as yet :-)

  Believe me I am not atagonising any Mac users here, I am simply stating
  what I believe to be correct in my eyes, people can agree/disagree as
  they see fit - that's what forums are about!

  Neil 

  
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Re: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)

[Kreig Zimmerman]

All I know is that the inability of the FuseBox community to gather together a formal 
specification has meant that, even though I am sympathetic to their ideas, I long ago 
moved my own way in building a full-fledged application framework for my own usage.  
It's a far distant cousin of FuseBox 1.0, but it's my own invention for the most 
part--and this was forced upon me simply because the only way to "learn FuseBox" seems 
to be to buy someone's poorly-written book.  That is not an open specification.

If FuseBox delivered on its promises, all of its interfaces would be well documented, 
it would be more than just a model to code upon, and we'd be in a position where we 
could pretty much drop in FuseBox-compliant "applets" (circuits? fuses?) in and out of 
our own web applications to our hearts content.

I've yet to see this happen.  I've yet to see two "FuseBox" apps which operate in the 
same manner.  Hell, I've yet to see an actual "FuseBox app"!

--
Kreig Zimmerman : Sr. Technical Mgr. : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Four Eyes Productions : Brooklyn, NY

NB: My apps all run through index.cfm however... :)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Watts 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:34 AM
  Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)


  > In response to your question to Steve, Tim Heald asked us to 
  > respond to some Fusebox talk on the CF-List.

  I was kidding about the alarm bell thing! "To the Fusemobile!"

  > I'm happy to try to help, but I know that some folks have 
  > an animus against Fusebox that I can't help with.

  Well, frankly, one of my gripes about Fusebox is that, whenever someone
  voices an objection, it's framed as "animus" - an attack against the one
  true faith. I'm not trying to convert anyone one way or another; my sole,
  though oft repeated, objection is that Fusebox developers tend to miss the
  forest for the trees. To a certain degree, I blame Fusebox for this. You
  could argue that this isn't the fault of Fusebox, or that I'm
  mischaracterizing Fusebox by making this argument, but in the end, the
  response to my arguments tends to be "you just don't get it, Dave". I
  realize that you personally have never made this argument, and I'm probably
  being unfair in throwing this back at you, but there you have it.

  Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
  http://www.figleaf.com/
  voice: (202) 797-5496
  fax: (202) 797-5444

  
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Re: Browser Detection

[Kreig Zimmerman]

To my knowledge no-one's done anything comprehensive in this arena.

I've thought of transforming Mozilla.org's client sniffer JS into a UDF, but haven't 
had the time (it's ultra-comprehensive; be nice if it was cfscript and not javascript 
tho!).

Most other tags I've seen just aren't up to snuff in providing detailed 
browser/platform information...

--
Kreig Zimmerman : Sr. Technical Mgr. : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Four Eyes Productions : Brooklyn, NY

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sean Daniels 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:32 AM
  Subject: Browser Detection


  What are people doing for browser detection these days?

  I am using a custom tag called "browsercheck" which is pretty old and I'm
  just curious if people have a slicker way. I have checked out the browser
  detection UDFs at cfdev but they don't do everything I'm looking for.

  I'm mainly looking to determine if the browser is "reasonably" CSS
  compliant. I'm thinking about writing a UDF isCss() that would return true
  for IE 4 and up and Netscape 6 and up and false for others (well, I would be
  more inclusive than that but you get the idea).

  Just don't want to reinvent the wheel if someone already has something to
  that effect.

  - Sean

  ~~
  Sean Daniels
Director, Engineering
Marketplace Technologies, Inc
  (T): 207.363.7374
  (C): 207.332.6340
  (F): 240.269.6319
  ~~
http://www.dealforce.com
http://www.mergernetwork.com



  
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Re: quick ? deleteclientvariable

[Kreig Zimmerman]

That should be deleteclientvariable("msg").
  - Original Message - 
  From: Janine Jakim 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:51 PM
  Subject: quick ? deleteclientvariable


  I have some client messages set up, but when I hit refresh I want them to go
  away.
  I had it set like this
  
  
  #Client.msg#
  
  
  

  What else or where else do I need to add something?  I thought my cfset temp
  would make it so that on refresh there wouldn't be a client.msg.
  Thanks,
  
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Re: Query Issue.

[Kreig Zimmerman]

what i usually do is "columnname = columnname" which updates the content of the 
column, with the contents of the column--no problems there, eh?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jared Stark 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 5:52 PM
  Subject: RE: Query Issue.


  I tried the 0 = 0 trick and SQL Server gives me an error.  Does that
  work for you?



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Re: Query Issue.

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Well obviously you wouldn't be using a column that you were trying to update.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jared Stark 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:25 PM
  Subject: RE: Query Issue.


  Except then if you try to update that same column later in the same
  query SQL Server will get upset with you.

  -Original Message-
  From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 4:23 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Query Issue.

  what i usually do is "columnname = columnname" which updates the content
  of the column, with the contents of the column--no problems there, eh?
- Original Message - 
From: Jared Stark 
To: CF-Talk 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: Query Issue.


I tried the 0 = 0 trick and SQL Server gives me an error.  Does that
work for you?




  
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Re: Quick question on custom tags

[Kreig Zimmerman]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Eckerman 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:05 AM
  Subject: Quick question on custom tags


  Is it possible to call a custom tag that resides in a folder other than
  the current folder.

  I am using  but I would like to have one copy
  residing in a "commonfiles" folder at root.
  This would take something like <../cf_cf_formurl2attributes>  right?  It
  doesn't seem to work.

  Any help is appreciated.
  
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Re: MAC file upload

[Kreig Zimmerman]

This seems to be an ongoing issue with IE5 on Macintosh.  I don't think there's a 
resolution that I've found...  although there appears to be an interesting UDF in 
CFLib's queue which may help.


And by the way, Mac is NOT an acronym--it's a contraction!!!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 4:39 PM
  Subject: MAC file upload


  It seems like this was covered a few weeks ago but I can't find it.  Can
  someone give me the quick low down on the trick for uploading files from a
  MAC?

  -mk

  ***

  I have a  question for you.
  I am comparing results from a Mac and a Windows machine.
  On the windows machine, the file works great, for adding and updating files.

  On a Mac (G-3) using Netscape 4.76 and IE 5, I get the following error:
  ___
  Error Diagnostic Information

   Error in CFFILE tag

   The form field specified in the CFFILE tag (FOODFILENAME) does not contain
  an uploaded file. Please be sure that you have specified the correct form
   field name.

   The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of
  (CFFILE), occupying document position (1:1) to (4:26).


  
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Re: How do Client Var Behave

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Use the "SERVER" scope.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Eckerman 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:04 PM
  Subject: RE: How do Client Var Behave


  How would I declare a var that would span applications?

  -Original Message-
  From: Randell B Adkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:00 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: How do Client Var Behave


  The client variables are unique to the application.
  Thus the client vars in APP1 are ONLY available to APP1



  >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/11/02 11:57AM >>>
  Hello again.
  Got a problem.
  I declare an Application context(say APP1) with cfapplication.
  then I set some client variables...

  I then cflocation to anouther directory, with..
  anouther declared Application context(say COOLAPP2)

  then I try to reference the client variables I set in APP1.
  --This Doesn't work-- :(


  My understanding is the whole point of Client varialbes is that they
  span application contexts.
  The above situation doesn't work...Is my understanding wrong?


  
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Re: AOL Problems

[Kreig Zimmerman]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Homa 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 12:02 PM
  Subject: AOL Problems


  Hi,

  Does anyone out there have experience with an AOL client?  I have a customer
  whose site works fine for him at his office and also for the many other
  clients that use the site but when he goes home and uses AOL he complains
  that pages don't load.  He says that he gets blank screens.  Anyone
  experience any of this or know which tags might cause this?

  Thanks,

  Eric Homa



  
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Re: html standards

[Kreig Zimmerman]

Andre,

The main difference in the placement of the  tags is this...

..you place JS functions in the  which are called from within the
document/by other functions.

When you place