cf query monitoring

[Robert Rhodes]

Hi to all. I am looking for a way to monitor how many times non-cached
queries hit the database, including the name of the query and performance
times.  Anyone have a suggestion?  I looked at fusion reactor but it is
expensive when you have multiple servers.

-RR


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Looking for affordable Colocation

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello,

I am looking for 2 to 4 rack-spaces of affordable co-location on the east
coast, with decent quality transit.

Any suggestions?

-RR


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Fwd: New Security Issue with CF

[Robert Rhodes]

I looked into this a bit more this morning, and have realized that I may
have gotten very lucky.

In going through the logs again, I see that there were no POSTs to h.cfm.
 So the hacker never logged into h.cfm.  And I see no GETs with a
fuseaction, as described in Charlie's post.

I ran the hacker's script again to confirm that logging in shows a POST in
my logs.  I also tried a some of the non destructive actions he could take,
and found that those caused either a POST or GET+fuseaction.

I think I dodged a bullet here.


-- Forwarded message ------
From: Robert Rhodes 
Date: Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: New Security Issue with CF
To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com


Thanks.  I saw that afterwards.  I was freaking out a bit there. Still am.
:(

I have gone through the logs on that server (windows 2008 R2 server running
 IIS7.5 and CF9.02) and the hacker loaded his script 1 time each on 15
different sites.

They all look like this:
2013-01-02 00:15:15 192.168.55.129 GET /CFIDE/h.cfm - 80 - 178.170.124.210
python-requests/0.14.2+CPython/2.7.3+Linux/3.2.0-32-generic 200 0 0 171

But on 3 of the sites, he also loaded: help,cfm,
administrator.cfc, mappings.cfm, scheduleedit.cfm, and  scheduletasks.cfm
 but there are no scheduled tasks showing in the administrator.

I checked the CF Administrator log and found nothing.

Fortunately, he missed the one site (none of his crap shows up in its logs)
where there was sensitive information, so assuming he could not traverse
directories, I am hoping I am ok there.

I ran his file (after renaming it), and none of my datasources showed up
(it was an empty ). I am hoping I am good there too. It looks like
his script it needs to be driven by a human (a lot of it is a form).  So I
am hoping that the one hit I see on most of those sites is an automated hit
to see if the script is there, then he was going to come around later and
do his damage -- and he never did.  Wishful thinking right?

I don't see any other signs of trouble anywhere, but am very worried that
something bad has happened that I have just not stumbled on yet.

Any suggestions or advice?  Any place else I should be looking? Am I
fooling my self to think I got lucky here?

I have shut down CF on that server and am now searching all other servers
for h.cfm.  So far nothing.

Tomorrow, I will completely wipe that server and reload it.

-RR


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Re: New Security Issue with CF

[Robert Rhodes]

Thanks.  I saw that afterwards.  I was freaking out a bit there. Still am.
:(

I have gone through the logs on that server (windows 2008 R2 server running
 IIS7.5 and CF9.02) and the hacker loaded his script 1 time each on 15
different sites.

They all look like this:
2013-01-02 00:15:15 192.168.55.129 GET /CFIDE/h.cfm - 80 - 178.170.124.210
python-requests/0.14.2+CPython/2.7.3+Linux/3.2.0-32-generic 200 0 0 171

But on 3 of the sites, he also loaded: help,cfm,
administrator.cfc, mappings.cfm, scheduleedit.cfm, and  scheduletasks.cfm
 but there are no scheduled tasks showing in the administrator.

I checked the CF Administrator log and found nothing.

Fortunately, he missed the one site (none of his crap shows up in its logs)
where there was sensitive information, so assuming he could not traverse
directories, I am hoping I am ok there.

I ran his file (after renaming it), and none of my datasources showed up
(it was an empty ). I am hoping I am good there too. It looks like
his script it needs to be driven by a human (a lot of it is a form).  So I
am hoping that the one hit I see on most of those sites is an automated hit
to see if the script is there, then he was going to come around later and
do his damage -- and he never did.  Wishful thinking right?

I don't see any other signs of trouble anywhere, but am very worried that
something bad has happened that I have just not stumbled on yet.

Any suggestions or advice?  Any place else I should be looking? Am I
fooling my self to think I got lucky here?

I have shut down CF on that server and am now searching all other servers
for h.cfm.  So far nothing.

Tomorrow, I will completely wipe that server and reload it.

-RR

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Raymond Camden wrote:

>
> Charlie posted an update:
>
> http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2013/1/2/Part2_serious_security_threat
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:
>
> >
> > Oh man I just looked and one of my standby servers got hit with this.
> >  Somehow we forgot to patch that one.  It had a bunch of sites on it, but
> > none of them were actually live (because it was a standby server).
> >
> > So I have questions.
> >
> > Does anyone know that this thing does?
> >
> > I can just wipe this box and reload it, but it was on the network with
> our
> > other windows servers (some of which are SQL database servers).  Is it
> > possible this hacker could have accessed other other servers through this
> > hack?
> >
> > Do we know the steps yet to clean up the mess?
> >
> > Any idea where to look for damage that the hacker has caused?
> >
> > I am a little lost here.
> >
> > :(
> >
> > -RR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > and also read the following article.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.michaels.me.uk/post.cfm/securing-your-coldfusionmx-installation-on-windows
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Larry Lyons 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > A new CF security issue was just discovered a few days ago. You may
> > want
> > > > to forward this information to whomever is your CF Admin.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2013/1/2/serious_security_threat
> > > >
> > > > To make a very long story short, the exploit allows a hacker to
> upload
> > a
> > > > file is put on the server. This gives a hacker pretty much unfettered
> > > > access to a lot of things including
> > > reading/downloading/uploading/renaming
> > > > and creating files, accessing datasource information, and more.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: New Security Issue with CF

[Robert Rhodes]

Oh man I just looked and one of my standby servers got hit with this.
 Somehow we forgot to patch that one.  It had a bunch of sites on it, but
none of them were actually live (because it was a standby server).

So I have questions.

Does anyone know that this thing does?

I can just wipe this box and reload it, but it was on the network with our
other windows servers (some of which are SQL database servers).  Is it
possible this hacker could have accessed other other servers through this
hack?

Do we know the steps yet to clean up the mess?

Any idea where to look for damage that the hacker has caused?

I am a little lost here.

:(

-RR









On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> and also read the following article.
>
> http://www.michaels.me.uk/post.cfm/securing-your-coldfusionmx-installation-on-windows
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Larry Lyons  wrote:
>
> >
> > A new CF security issue was just discovered a few days ago. You may want
> > to forward this information to whomever is your CF Admin.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2013/1/2/serious_security_threat
> >
> > To make a very long story short, the exploit allows a hacker to upload a
> > file is put on the server. This gives a hacker pretty much unfettered
> > access to a lot of things including
> reading/downloading/uploading/renaming
> > and creating files, accessing datasource information, and more.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: r2 server (web edition(Can;t get CF installed on windows

[Robert Rhodes]

Well it turns out that Andrew and Will hit the nail on the head.  There is
something wrong with the cf9.0.2 installer.

Today, I reloaded the os and used the cf9 installer. Then I ran the cf9.0.1
updater, then I loaded up the administrator and all appeared to be working
fine.  Next, Ioaded a few sites and ran the web server config tool, and all
is working as expected.

Weird that the 9.0.2 exe does not work.

-RR


On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:

>
> It sounds like they are using the same installer as 9.0, if that is the
> case then I am also guessing that the same problems exist. Which means when
> you update / install 9.02 it needs to have the IIS
> 6 compatibility installed.
>
> I would have assumed that Adobe would have taken care of that. If your
> lucky enough to have a 9.01 or 9.02 server running, you could try to
> install ColdFusion and grab that WSCFG tool and try getting the connectors
> working with that.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
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> http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Wil Genovese  wrote:
>
> >
> > I wish I could help, I have not been able to get been able to get 9.0.2
> to
> > install and run either. I tried the 64Bit version on Linux.  Eventually I
> > had to load 9.0 and then to the upgrade and patch process.
> >
> >
> > Wil Genovese
> > Sr. Web Application Developer/
> > Systems Administrator
> > CF Webtools
> > www.cfwebtools.com
> >
> > wilg...@trunkful.com
> > www.trunkful.com
> >
> > On Sep 3, 2012, at 12:09 AM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I agree. :)
> > >
> > > I am installing with: ColdFusion_9_WWEJ_win64.exe from the link here:
> > > http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/downloads_updates.html#cf9
> > >
> > > I have tried deinstalling and reinstalling CF9.02 a few times.
> > >
> > > I have also tried reloading the OS and starting from scratch a few
> times.
> > > No luck.
> > >
> > > I guess my next try will be to load from the 9.0 disc and do the
> updates.
> > > That's a pain but at least might get this damn server running.
> > >
> > > This really should not be this hard.  Every other time I have done this
> > it
> > > has gone fine.  It's something about this particular build.
> > >
> > > --RR
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Andrew Scott  > >wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Yeah something does seem to have gone wrong.
> > >>
> > >> And I have no real solutions to that problem, I can only guess at
> > things to
> > >> try like you are doing. But some of the things to double check, are
> you
> > >> sure
> > >> it is x64bit ColdFusion, I doubt that the 32bit would have problems
> > >> installing though. Install as an Administrator, this is something that
> > >> Adobe
> > >> don't make it clear enough, but they will tell you it should be.
> > >>
> > >> Failing those two, could it be that the machine just needs a reboot
> > before
> > >> configuration of the connectors?
> > >>
> > >> Failing that I am not sure what else to suggest, but the description
> you
> > >> give seems to be more of a problem with things not being setup
> > correctly in
> > >> IIS.. You could uninstall ColdFusion and then manually double check
> that
> > >> all
> > >> has been removed for CF, then try reinstalling CF and see if that
> fixes
> > >> things.
> > >>
> > >> But failing that I know ColdFusion 9, had problems with running on
> > IIS7.5,
> > >> and the solution was to install it then install 9.01, and then
> configure
> > >> ColdFusion. My thinking is maybe the installer is the 9.0 installer
> that
> > >> has
> > >> issues with IIS7.5?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Andrew Scott
> > >> WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > >> Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> > >> Sent: Monday, 3 September 2012 2:33 PM
> > >> To: cf

Re: r2 server (web edition(Can;t get CF installed on windows

[Robert Rhodes]

I agree. :)

I am installing with: ColdFusion_9_WWEJ_win64.exe from the link here:
http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/downloads_updates.html#cf9

I have tried deinstalling and reinstalling CF9.02 a few times.

I have also tried reloading the OS and starting from scratch a few times.
 No luck.

I guess my next try will be to load from the 9.0 disc and do the updates.
 That's a pain but at least might get this damn server running.

This really should not be this hard.  Every other time I have done this it
has gone fine.  It's something about this particular build.

--RR


On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:

>
> Yeah something does seem to have gone wrong.
>
> And I have no real solutions to that problem, I can only guess at things to
> try like you are doing. But some of the things to double check, are you
> sure
> it is x64bit ColdFusion, I doubt that the 32bit would have problems
> installing though. Install as an Administrator, this is something that
> Adobe
> don't make it clear enough, but they will tell you it should be.
>
> Failing those two, could it be that the machine just needs a reboot before
> configuration of the connectors?
>
> Failing that I am not sure what else to suggest, but the description you
> give seems to be more of a problem with things not being setup correctly in
> IIS.. You could uninstall ColdFusion and then manually double check that
> all
> has been removed for CF, then try reinstalling CF and see if that fixes
> things.
>
> But failing that I know ColdFusion 9, had problems with running on IIS7.5,
> and the solution was to install it then install 9.01, and then configure
> ColdFusion. My thinking is maybe the installer is the 9.0 installer that
> has
> issues with IIS7.5?
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 3 September 2012 2:33 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: r2 server (web edition(Can;t get CF installed on windows
>
>
> Each time I have tried running the config tool after installation, it has
> shown that the server was already configured.  I have tried to remove and
> reinstall the web configuration,  and still get the same errors.  It's
> almost as if the 64bit windows 9.0.2 installer just has a problem.  (but I
> am still betting that I screwed something up).
>
>
>
> 

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Re: r2 server (web edition(Can;t get CF installed on windows

[Robert Rhodes]

Each time I have tried running the config tool after installation, it has
shown that the server was already configured.  I have tried to remove and
reinstall the web configuration,  and still get the same errors.  It's
almost as if the 64bit windows 9.0.2 installer just has a problem.  (but I
am still betting that I screwed something up).



On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:

>
> Robert, I can't see if you did this or not. But it sounds like the
> connectors didn't get setup, try running the web server Configuration tool.
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 3 September 2012 1:51 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: r2 server (web edition(Can;t get CF installed on windows
>
>
> I have installed CF9 many times without incident, but am now having no luck
> installing the new 9.0.2 x64 installer.  I am sure I am doing something
> wrong, but I have tried everything I can think of and still no luck.
>
> Hopefully someone here can help.
>
> I am installing CF9.0.2 on Windows 2008R2 Server x64 (Web Edition).  After
> installing the OS, I do all the OS patches first.
>
> Next, I install the Web Server Role, and in role services, I install:
> Static Content
> Default Document
> Http Errors
> Http Redirection
> Asp.net
> .net extendibility
> CGI
> ISAPI Extensions
> ISAPI FIlters
> Htttp Logging
> Request Monitor
> Request FIltering
> IP and Domain Restrictions
> Static Content Compression
> IIS Management Console
>
> I then install CF9.0.2 in a small partition (f: drive) and when prompted I
> use a path outside the webroot for the CFAdmin.
>
> When the 9.0.2 Installer finishes, the administrator loads fine for the
> final configuration.
>
> Once CF is done with its final configuration, I add an IIS site, and drop
> in
> a simple coldfusion file.
>
> When I run the simple coldfusion file, I get this error:
>
> HTTP Error 404.2 - Not Found
> The page you are requesting cannot be served because of the ISAPI and CGI
> Restriction list settings on the Web server.
>
> I then check ISAPI and CGI Restrictions.  There are four entries there (2
> asp.net and 2 Macromedia Server extensions) I then try setting Allow
> unspecifiec CGI and ISAPI modules, but still no luck.
>
> Lastely, I try setting permissions on cgi and isapi (in Handler mappings)
> to
> and set them to execute. adnd still no luck.  But I now get this different
> message:
>
> HTTP Error 500.0 - Internal Server Error The page cannot be displayed
> because an internal server error has occurred.
>
> Sorry for the long email.I have been trying to get this going for most
> of the day and I am quite frustrated.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --RR
>
>
>
>
> 

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r2 server (web edition(Can;t get CF installed on windows

[Robert Rhodes]

I have installed CF9 many times without incident, but am now having no luck
installing the new 9.0.2 x64 installer.  I am sure I am doing something
wrong, but I have tried everything I can think of and still no luck.

Hopefully someone here can help.

I am installing CF9.0.2 on Windows 2008R2 Server x64 (Web Edition).  After
installing the OS, I do all the OS patches first.

Next, I install the Web Server Role, and in role services, I install:
Static Content
Default Document
Http Errors
Http Redirection
Asp.net
.net extendibility
CGI
ISAPI Extensions
ISAPI FIlters
Htttp Logging
Request Monitor
Request FIltering
IP and Domain Restrictions
Static Content Compression
IIS Management Console

I then install CF9.0.2 in a small partition (f: drive) and when prompted I
use a path outside the webroot for the CFAdmin.

When the 9.0.2 Installer finishes, the administrator loads fine for the
final configuration.

Once CF is done with its final configuration, I add an IIS site, and drop
in a simple coldfusion file.

When I run the simple coldfusion file, I get this error:

HTTP Error 404.2 - Not Found
The page you are requesting cannot be served because of the ISAPI and CGI
Restriction list settings on the Web server.

I then check ISAPI and CGI Restrictions.  There are four entries there (2
asp.net and 2 Macromedia Server extensions)
I then try setting Allow unspecifiec CGI and ISAPI modules, but still no
luck.

Lastely, I try setting permissions on cgi and isapi (in Handler mappings)
to  and set them to execute. adnd still no luck.  But I now get this
different message:

HTTP Error 500.0 - Internal Server Error
The page cannot be displayed because an internal server error has occurred.

Sorry for the long email.I have been trying to get this going for most
of the day and I am quite frustrated.

Any ideas?

--RR


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Re: JVM settings question

[Robert Rhodes]

Jonah, your settings helped.  Thank you.

-RR



On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 8:54 PM, .jonah  wrote:

>
> I've got a 3 gig heap and these settings on a similarly spec'ed box - no
> claim whether they're ideal or not.
>
> -server -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:MaxPermSize=512m
> -XX:+UseParallelGC -Xbatch -Dsun.rmi.dgc.client.gcInterval=60
> -Dsun.rmi.dgc.server.gcInterval=600000
>
>
> On 8/29/12 5:38 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> > Yes: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
> >
> > How about I try setting min and max heap size to 2gb and see how that
> goes?
> >   Anything else I should tweak?  Garbage Collection?
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM, .jonah  wrote:
> >
> >> Are you running 64bit Java?
> >>
> >> You can give the JVM as much RAM as you can spare.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/29/12 4:56 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> >>> Hello to all.
> >>>
> >>> I have several Windows 2008 R2 x64 servers running Coldfusion 9
> standard.
> >>>Each has 6 gigabytes of RAM.  Each runs about 50 fairly active
> sites.
> >>   I
> >>> have not had any JVM errors I know about but sometimes the sites run
> >> slower
> >>> than they should, as if CF is having trouble keeping up.
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions on JVM settings for this configuration?  Currently, I
> >> have
> >>> Min and Max JVM size both set at 1GB.  I have changed no other
> arguments.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the help.
> >>>
> >>> -RR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
> 

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Re: JVM settings question

[Robert Rhodes]

Yes: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM

How about I try setting min and max heap size to 2gb and see how that goes?
 Anything else I should tweak?  Garbage Collection?

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM, .jonah  wrote:

>
> Are you running 64bit Java?
>
> You can give the JVM as much RAM as you can spare.
>
>
> On 8/29/12 4:56 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> > Hello to all.
> >
> > I have several Windows 2008 R2 x64 servers running Coldfusion 9 standard.
> >   Each has 6 gigabytes of RAM.  Each runs about 50 fairly active sites.
>  I
> > have not had any JVM errors I know about but sometimes the sites run
> slower
> > than they should, as if CF is having trouble keeping up.
> >
> > Any suggestions on JVM settings for this configuration?  Currently, I
> have
> > Min and Max JVM size both set at 1GB.  I have changed no other arguments.
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> >
> > -RR
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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JVM settings question

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello to all.

I have several Windows 2008 R2 x64 servers running Coldfusion 9 standard.
 Each has 6 gigabytes of RAM.  Each runs about 50 fairly active sites.  I
have not had any JVM errors I know about but sometimes the sites run slower
than they should, as if CF is having trouble keeping up.

Any suggestions on JVM settings for this configuration?  Currently, I have
Min and Max JVM size both set at 1GB.  I have changed no other arguments.

Thanks for the help.

-RR


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Re: Extracting text from various file-types

[Robert Rhodes]

Hi Bruce.  Thanks for the reply.

I did, but no luck.  On text files, I got the text just fine.  On Word
docs, I got the text but with a whole bunch of garbage in the return.

On ppt, pdf, and excel docs, they all come out as unreadable garbage.  I
tried both the "read" and "readbinary" actions and they both did not work.

Maybe I am doing something wrong?

I am using CF9.

-RR

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Bruce Sorge  wrote:

>
> Check out the CFFILE tag. That offers this type of functionality.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello again to all.
> >
> > I need a way to extract text from word, excel, text, pdf, and ppt files
> > with Coldfusion, as the files are each submitted via a form.  The output
> > does not have to be particularly pretty or nicely formatted -- just plain
> > text that can be stored and searched later.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > --RR
> >
>
> 

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Extracting text from various file-types

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello again to all.

I need a way to extract text from word, excel, text, pdf, and ppt files
with Coldfusion, as the files are each submitted via a form.  The output
does not have to be particularly pretty or nicely formatted -- just plain
text that can be stored and searched later.

Any ideas?

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Re: I guess it was bound to happen

[Robert Rhodes]

Yes, I am using CF for login security.

Thanks to all for the suggestions.  While I am considering the various
suggestions, I renamed the directory and removed the insecure page that had
links to the files (the client put this page up with he cms).  I then
changed all the links on the secure pages to the new directory name.  That
solves the problem now whileI  work out a more permanent solution.

Thanks again for the help.

-RR

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Brian Thornton wrote:

>
> Are you using IIS security for login or CFM security?
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Robert Rhodes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone.
> >
> > I have a site where a password is required to access the site.  On pages
> in
> > the site, there are links to download files.  I set the appropriate meta
> > tags and robots.txt to tell the search engines to not spyder the site.
> >
> > Though the site pages are not in google, the files are showing up.
>  that's
> > bad.
> >
> > It's a lot of files, so before I code up a solution to access all the
> > through logic so I can control the permissions, is there some way to
> > protect a directory so that files can't be downloaded without being
> logged
> > in on the site?
> >
> > My guess is the answer is no, but I thought I would ask.
> >
> > -RR
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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I guess it was bound to happen

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello everyone.

I have a site where a password is required to access the site.  On pages in
the site, there are links to download files.  I set the appropriate meta
tags and robots.txt to tell the search engines to not spyder the site.

Though the site pages are not in google, the files are showing up.  that's
bad.

It's a lot of files, so before I code up a solution to access all the
through logic so I can control the permissions, is there some way to
protect a directory so that files can't be downloaded without being logged
in on the site?

My guess is the answer is no, but I thought I would ask.

-RR


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Re: validating query string error

[Robert Rhodes]

May I ask a probably dumb question?

Isn't val() simply enough to stop a sql injection attack through that
function?

--RR

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Mike Little  wrote:

>
> on my pricing page, i have the following if statement to ensure invalid
> url vars are not being input...
>
> if (isnumeric(val(URL.lid))) {
>
> however the query string below seems to get through? what should i be
> doing instead?
>
> --- error message ---
>
> Diagnostics: The LOCATION_ID argument passed to the get_term_loaded
> function is not of type numeric. If the component name is specified as a
> type of this argument, its possible that a definition file for the
> component cannot be found or is not accessible.
>
> The error occurred on line 153.
> Referrer:
> Template: /pricing.cfm
> Query string: lid=14%27%2F%2A%2A%2For%2F%2A%2A%2F1%3D%40%40version--
>
>
> 

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Re: Re[2]: Trouble setting up CF Builder

[Robert Rhodes]

Glad to hear I am not the only one who thinks that.  But then, I have been
using Dreamweaver for for a long time.  CFB is a whole new world for me.

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Michael David wrote:

>
> So you are editing directly on the files that are in the dev server
> webroot?  That will take some getting used to.  I am used to editing
> locally and them pushing the files to the dev server for testing.
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Dave Watts" 
> To: "cf-talk" 
> Sent: 6/9/2012 12:08:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Trouble setting up CF Builder
> >>
> >>But here's a question:  How do I get the files from the project directory
> >>into the local webroot?  (I am running IIS7, btw).  I do not see any
> >>mechanism to Put or Publish the files to the web root.  I am sure it's
> >>something staring me in the face and I am just not seeing it.  Any ideas?
> >>
> >
> >
> >I just put my projects in the local web root in the first place - when
> >you create a project, you can uncheck the default project location
> >(which by default is in your workspace, which in turn is in your
> >Windows profile). Alternatively, you can simply create a workspace in
> >your web root, and all subsequent projects will then go in there by
> >default.
> >
> >Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> >
> >http://www.figleaf.com/
> >http://training.figleaf.com/
> >
> >
> >Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> >GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> >instruction at our training centers, online, or on
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Re[2]: Trouble setting up CF Builder

[Robert Rhodes]

Yes that makes sense. Thanks Dave.

Where do I find an SVN plugin  (or other source control options)  for CFB2?

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > So you are editing directly on the files that are in the dev server
> > webroot?  That will take some getting used to.  I am used to editing
> > locally and them pushing the files to the dev server for testing.
>
> Yes, but the dev server is on my laptop, so I am "editing locally". I
> can then directly test the script on my laptop, then when I'm done I
> can check everything back into source control, etc.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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Re: Trouble setting up CF Builder

[Robert Rhodes]

After wasting an entire day trying to figure out how to get CFB2 to work
correctly with my development web server on the local network, I got tired
of beating my head against the wall and gave up.

So I loaded CF10 on my development machine and CFB controls the server just
fine, and RDS communication works fine too.  It's a shame that this can't
work with a local server on a private network.

But here's a question:  How do I get the files from the project directory
into the local webroot?  (I am running IIS7, btw).  I do not see any
mechanism to Put or Publish the files to the web root.  I am sure it's
something staring me in the face and I am just not seeing it.  Any ideas?

-RR



On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:

> Hello Dave,  Thank you very much for the reply.
>
> I tried as you suggested (good suggestion, btw), but I am still stuck.  I
> thought it might be helpful to provide more detail:
>
> I am running CF 9.0.1 on Windows Server 2k8 Standard x64.  CF is installed
> in C:\Coldfusion9.
>
> Multiple development sites are running under IIS7 at individual private IP
> addresses (10.10.1.xxx).  The webroots for these sites are not within
> C:\Coldfusion9, but are within the D:\dev\prj directory.
>
> On the development server, I did run adminstart.bat in
> C:\Coldfusion9\runtime\bin.
>
> Here is what I entered during the server setup in CFB2:
>
> General Settings...
> Server Name: Development
> Description: [blank]
> Application Server: Jrun
> Host Name: 10.10.1.199
> "Is Local" is selected
> Web Server Port: 80
>
> J2EE Settings...
> Context Root: [blank]
> Application Server Name: [blank]
> RDS Username: Developer
> PDS Password: 
>
> Enable SSL is not selected
> Auto Start/Stop are not selected
>
> Local Server Settings...
> Server Home: P:\  (This points to C:\Coldfusion9 on the dev server.)
> Document Root: Q:\ (This points to D:\dev\prj1425 on the dev server.)
>
> Virtual Host Settings...
> Name: prj1425
> Host Name: 10.10.1.199
> Port:80
> Document Root: Q:\
>
> When I try to refresh that server, I get this in the console log:
> [Development]:(06/07 at 03:39:19) Server is available. Getting server
> settings.
> [Development]:Error(06/07 at 03:39:19) Unable to fetch server mappings.
> [Development]:Error(06/07 at 03:39:20) Unable to fetch server mappings.
> [Development]:Error(06/07 at 03:39:20) Unable to get the log directory.
>
> When I try to restart it:
> [Development]:Error(06/07 at 03:40:17) Unable to query service for the
> server Development.
>
> Now I realize I am not the brightest bulb in the box, but the setup
> instructions and video all seem a bit too vague to me...
>
> All help appreciated.
>
> -RR
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>
>>
>> > Anyway, I think my problem is that both my CF install directory and my
>> web
>> > root are on another server on the local network.  So I am setting my
>> server
>> > home to: \\10.10.1.10\c$\ColdFusion9 and my document root to:
>> > \\10.10.1.10\d$\dev\prj1425
>> >
>> > CFB2 doesn't seem to like the configuration.  It won't let me pick the
>> CF
>> > version and won't let me click next to move on.
>>
>> You might try creating drive mappings for those shares, then using the
>> drive mappings in CFB.
>>
>> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> http://www.figleaf.com/
>> http://training.figleaf.com/
>>
>> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
>> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsit
>>
>> 

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Re: Trouble setting up CF Builder

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello Dave,  Thank you very much for the reply.

I tried as you suggested (good suggestion, btw), but I am still stuck.  I
thought it might be helpful to provide more detail:

I am running CF 9.0.1 on Windows Server 2k8 Standard x64.  CF is installed
in C:\Coldfusion9.

Multiple development sites are running under IIS7 at individual private IP
addresses (10.10.1.xxx).  The webroots for these sites are not within
C:\Coldfusion9, but are within the D:\dev\prj directory.

On the development server, I did run adminstart.bat in
C:\Coldfusion9\runtime\bin.

Here is what I entered during the server setup in CFB2:

General Settings...
Server Name: Development
Description: [blank]
Application Server: Jrun
Host Name: 10.10.1.199
"Is Local" is selected
Web Server Port: 80

J2EE Settings...
Context Root: [blank]
Application Server Name: [blank]
RDS Username: Developer
PDS Password: 

Enable SSL is not selected
Auto Start/Stop are not selected

Local Server Settings...
Server Home: P:\  (This points to C:\Coldfusion9 on the dev server.)
Document Root: Q:\ (This points to D:\dev\prj1425 on the dev server.)

Virtual Host Settings...
Name: prj1425
Host Name: 10.10.1.199
Port:80
Document Root: Q:\

When I try to refresh that server, I get this in the console log:
[Development]:(06/07 at 03:39:19) Server is available. Getting server
settings.
[Development]:Error(06/07 at 03:39:19) Unable to fetch server mappings.
[Development]:Error(06/07 at 03:39:20) Unable to fetch server mappings.
[Development]:Error(06/07 at 03:39:20) Unable to get the log directory.

When I try to restart it:
[Development]:Error(06/07 at 03:40:17) Unable to query service for the
server Development.

Now I realize I am not the brightest bulb in the box, but the setup
instructions and video all seem a bit too vague to me...

All help appreciated.

-RR



On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > Anyway, I think my problem is that both my CF install directory and my
> web
> > root are on another server on the local network.  So I am setting my
> server
> > home to: \\10.10.1.10\c$\ColdFusion9 and my document root to:
> > \\10.10.1.10\d$\dev\prj1425
> >
> > CFB2 doesn't seem to like the configuration.  It won't let me pick the CF
> > version and won't let me click next to move on.
>
> You might try creating drive mappings for those shares, then using the
> drive mappings in CFB.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsit
>
> 

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Trouble setting up CF Builder

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello to all.

I am a little frustrated here trying to get CF Builder 2 set up.  Of course
it does not help that the cheezy synthetic-speech videos that you can play
from within CFB2 cannot be controlled while you have the setup dialogs open
(don't know how Adobe could have missed that).

Anyway, I think my problem is that both my CF install directory and my web
root are on another server on the local network.  So I am setting my server
home to: \\10.10.1.10\c$\ColdFusion9 and my document root to:
\\10.10.1.10\dev\prj1425

CFB2 doesn't seem to like the configuration.  It won't let me pick the CF
version and won't let me click next to move on.

Anyone got any ideas?

-RR


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Trouble setting up CF Builder

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello to all.

I sent this message last night, but it looks like it did not make it
through.  So I thought I should try again.

I am a little frustrated here trying to get CF Builder 2 set up.  Of course
it does not help that the cheezy synthetic-speech videos that you can play
from within CFB2 cannot be controlled while you have the setup dialogs open
(don't know how Adobe could have missed that).

Anyway, I think my problem is that both my CF install directory and my web
root are on another server on the local network.  So I am setting my server
home to: \\10.10.1.10\c$\ColdFusion9 and my document root to:
\\10.10.1.10\d$\dev\prj1425

CFB2 doesn't seem to like the configuration.  It won't let me pick the CF
version and won't let me click next to move on.

Anyone got any ideas?

-RR


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Need to get at browser size and Flash support

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello to all.

I am working on a project where I need to get at the browser size of the
site visitor, as well as whether the browser supports Flash or not.  Can
anyone point me in the right direction?

The browser size detect is get at whether visitor is using a desktop,
tablet, or handheld browser, so I can load the best layouts for that
device.

The Flash detect is to load an alternative interface for i-devices.

As always, all help appreciated.

--
RR


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Best IDE for cfscript

[Robert Rhodes]

What is the best IDE for cfcript work?  CFBuilder 2?  CFEclipse?  Or?

-RR


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Re: Video Streaming Provider

[Robert Rhodes]

Thanks to Brian and Dave for the Brightcove suggestion.  That looks like it
will work great.

-RR


On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Brian Thornton wrote:

>
> Brightcove...  It's cool also because the Allaire guys launched it.
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Robert Rhodes 
> wrote:
> >
> > My next project involves a bunch of streaming videos (mp4) for an
> > organization's users.
> >
> > Each user will need to have access to a different set of videos. So,
> user 1
> > might have access to videos 100, 211, and 513, while user 2 has access to
> > videos 21, 100, 513 and 624.
> >
> > So I'll need obviously need a different login, password, and access list
> > for each user.  I don't want to stream these videos on the organization's
> > site, but rather from an external provider.
> >
> > Either I would just use this provider to stream the videos through a
> player
> > on the organization's site (preferred), or move the user off to the video
> > vendor's site and have the login and streaming happen there.  In that
> case,
> > I would need to set up the user specific video streaming lists at the
> > provider.
> >
> > Either way, I am hoping to find a streaming video provider that has a
> > straightforward API that I can use to stream the videos and possible to
> set
> > up users, their passwords, and perhaps their access permissions to
> specific
> > videos.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks to all, as always. :)
> >
> > -RR
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Video Streaming Provider

[Robert Rhodes]

My next project involves a bunch of streaming videos (mp4) for an
organization's users.

Each user will need to have access to a different set of videos. So, user 1
might have access to videos 100, 211, and 513, while user 2 has access to
videos 21, 100, 513 and 624.

So I'll need obviously need a different login, password, and access list
for each user.  I don't want to stream these videos on the organization's
site, but rather from an external provider.

Either I would just use this provider to stream the videos through a player
on the organization's site (preferred), or move the user off to the video
vendor's site and have the login and streaming happen there.  In that case,
I would need to set up the user specific video streaming lists at the
provider.

Either way, I am hoping to find a streaming video provider that has a
straightforward API that I can use to stream the videos and possible to set
up users, their passwords, and perhaps their access permissions to specific
videos.

Any suggestions?

Thanks to all, as always. :)

-RR


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Re: How to get IIS7 to redirect with query string

[Robert Rhodes]

So, I finally finished this project up.  Thanks to Jonah and Andrew for
their suggestions on this.  The info was quite helpful.

--RR

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 8:38 PM, .jonah  wrote:

> In the  section of your web.config it'd be something like:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> On 4/4/12 5:22 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
>
>> Anyone out there know how to set up IIS7 to pass a query string?
>>
>> Any url construct is probably fine as long as I can pass four variables
>> and
>> it does not have a ? or a&  in it (per client's requirements).
>>
>> I am trying to get something like...
>>
>> http://mydomain.com/redir/a/**red/b/green<http://mydomain.com/redir/a/red/b/green>
>>
>> to redirect to:
>>
>> http://mydomain.com/index.cfm?**q=favorite.colors&a=red&b=**green<http://mydomain.com/index.cfm?q=favorite.colors&a=red&b=green>
>>
>> Any Ideas?
>>
>> -RR
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How to get IIS7 to redirect with query string

[Robert Rhodes]

Anyone out there know how to set up IIS7 to pass a query string?

Any url construct is probably fine as long as I can pass four variables and
it does not have a ? or a & in it (per client's requirements).

I am trying to get something like...

http://mydomain.com/redir/a/red/b/green

to redirect to:

http://mydomain.com/index.cfm?q=favorite.colors&a=red&b=green

Any Ideas?

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Re: Javascript test in ColdFusion

[Robert Rhodes]

Thanks to all for the suggestions on this.  I went with the approach below
and it worked well.

Thank you Andy,

-RR



On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 11:39 PM, andy matthews wrote:

>
> A dead simple way of testing for JavaScript:
>
> 
>window.location.href = 'javascriptCapable.cfm';
> 
> 
>
> If a browser understands JS they get one page, if they don't they get
> another.
>
> One thing to consider though that it's not quite as simple as
> "understanding
> JS"...you should be checking for specific functionality using something
> like
> Modernizr.
>
> http://www.modernizr.com/
>
>
>
> andy
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:00 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Javascript test in ColdFusion
>
>
> Hello again.
>
> I have a site that loads all the content in ajax.  I also have a version of
> the site that does not use ajax.
>
> I am looking for some code I can put in the application.cfm to test to see
> if the visitor's browser supports javascipt or not, so I can load the right
> version of the site.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --RR
>
>
>
>
> 

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Javascript test in ColdFusion

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello again.

I have a site that loads all the content in ajax.  I also have a version of
the site that does not use ajax.

I am looking for some code I can put in the application.cfm to test to see
if the visitor's browser supports javascipt or not, so I can load the right
version of the site.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

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Re: Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01

[Robert Rhodes]

I wanted to circle back and thank everyone for their suggestions.

Running the site in SSL all the time got us passed, and the site seems
to be working fine.

I wish there was a better way, but this works.

Thanks again.

-RR

On 3/6/12, Robert Rhodes  wrote:
> If jsessionids are enabled, CF appears to set that cookie, no matter what.
>  I know of no way to prevent that from happening.
>
> And yes, even those the site being loaded by https, the jsessionid cookie
> is still being set insecurely.
>
> As I said before, this should be easier than it is.  Or maybe it's just
> because I am missing something obvious.
>
> -RR
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Cameron Childress
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Robert Rhodes 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Yes, I saw that.  But he does not say how he made the new jsession id
>> > string.  I am sure it is not some random string he pro
>> > grammatically generated.  So, there must be a way to get at the
>> jsessionid
>> > even if you don't have jsessionidenabled in the administrator.
>>
>>
>> I'd say, enable it in the CFAdmin, tell CF not to set cookies
>> automatically
>> (via code), then set it yourself.  Are you sure it's getting set as
>> nonsecure?  That is very suprising to me.
>>
>> -Cameron
>>
>> --
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>> --
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Re: Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01

[Robert Rhodes]

If jsessionids are enabled, CF appears to set that cookie, no matter what.
 I know of no way to prevent that from happening.

And yes, even those the site being loaded by https, the jsessionid cookie
is still being set insecurely.

As I said before, this should be easier than it is.  Or maybe it's just
because I am missing something obvious.

-RR

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:

>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:
>
> > Yes, I saw that.  But he does not say how he made the new jsession id
> > string.  I am sure it is not some random string he pro
> > grammatically generated.  So, there must be a way to get at the
> jsessionid
> > even if you don't have jsessionidenabled in the administrator.
>
>
> I'd say, enable it in the CFAdmin, tell CF not to set cookies automatically
> (via code), then set it yourself.  Are you sure it's getting set as
> nonsecure?  That is very suprising to me.
>
> -Cameron
>
> --
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> --
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Re: Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01

[Robert Rhodes]

Yes, I saw that.  But he does not say how he made the new jsession id
string.  I am sure it is not some random string he pro
grammatically generated.  So, there must be a way to get at the jsessionid
even if you don't have jsessionidenabled in the administrator.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:

>
> Try this:
>
>
> http://www.12robots.com/index.cfm/2009/5/6/Making-the-JSESSIONID-Session-Token-Cookie-SECURE-and-HTTPOnly-and-settings-its-PATH
>
> -Cameron
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:
> >
> > That works for cfid and cftoken, thanks.  But it won't work for
> jsessionid,
> > because once that is selected in the administrator, it shows up as an
> > unsecure cookie, even if you have setclientcookies turned off.  That's a
> > bummer, I wanted to use jsessionids.
>
>
>
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> --
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Re: Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01

[Robert Rhodes]

That works for cfid and cftoken, thanks.  But it won't work for jsessionid,
because once that is selected in the administrator, it shows up as an
unsecure cookie, even if you have setclientcookies turned off.  That's a
bummer, I wanted to use jsessionids.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:

>
> Yes. If it were me, I would turn "setClientCookies=false" in the
> Applciation.cfc|cfm and then set them manually using:
>
> 
> 
>
> If you google around a bit you can probably find some sample code for doing
> this.  If you are using JSessionIDs (not cfid/cftoken) you'll be just
> setting that cookie but I would expect it to work in that case as well.
>
> Whole you're at it you might also pop open Chrome debugging or the like and
> verify that those are the only cookies being sent, just to make sure you
> don't have something else that trips you up.
>
> -Cameron
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:
>
> >
> > Ok, I am going to try to make the site work all ssl.  I am concerned
> about
> > the video streaming over ssl, but I guess we will see how it goes.
> >
> > On a related subject:  is there a way to make the jsessionid cookie
> secure
> > without making the jrun change?  I ask because doing so affects all sites
> > on the server, and I had planed to run other sites on this particular
> > server.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Cameron Childress  > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Robert Rhodes 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I hear you, but there are issues preventing me from going all https.
> > >  It's
> > > > a long story.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to copy, with some code in the application.cfm, the
> > > > jsessionid between http and https so we don't lose the session state?
> > > >
> > >
> > > You could make this work, but then you would be exactly where you
> > currently
> > > are, and would again fail the PCI audit. I know you are looking for a
> > > "quick answer", but there isn't really a great easy option here. Many
> > shops
> > > spend literally months getting compliant, so this code change really
> > > doesn't seem so huge in comparison, even though I know if feel like it
> > is.
> > >
> > > You best solution, in the long term as well as the short run, is to
> make
> > > the code changes and just spend the time and money on it so it's right.
> > >
> > > -Cameron
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cameron Childress
> > > --
> > > p:   678.637.5072
> > > im: cameroncf
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01

[Robert Rhodes]

Ok, I am going to try to make the site work all ssl.  I am concerned about
the video streaming over ssl, but I guess we will see how it goes.

On a related subject:  is there a way to make the jsessionid cookie secure
without making the jrun change?  I ask because doing so affects all sites
on the server, and I had planed to run other sites on this particular
server.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:

>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Robert Rhodes 
> wrote:
>
> > I hear you, but there are issues preventing me from going all https.
>  It's
> > a long story.
> >
> > Is there a way to copy, with some code in the application.cfm, the
> > jsessionid between http and https so we don't lose the session state?
> >
>
> You could make this work, but then you would be exactly where you currently
> are, and would again fail the PCI audit. I know you are looking for a
> "quick answer", but there isn't really a great easy option here. Many shops
> spend literally months getting compliant, so this code change really
> doesn't seem so huge in comparison, even though I know if feel like it is.
>
> You best solution, in the long term as well as the short run, is to make
> the code changes and just spend the time and money on it so it's right.
>
> -Cameron
>
> --
> Cameron Childress
> --
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>
>
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Re: Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01

[Robert Rhodes]

I hear you, but there are issues preventing me from going all https.  It's
a long story.

Is there a way to copy, with some code in the application.cfm, the
jsessionid between http and https so we don't lose the session state?

-rr

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Pete Freitag  wrote:

>
> Hi Robert,
>
> You are caught in a bit of a catch 22 here. If you want to set the secure
> attribute on session cookies delivered over SSL, but also have it use the
> same cookie values over non-ssl - then that defeats the purpose of adding
> the secure attribute. If you want to do that you can't use the secure
> attribute on the cookies.
>
> The secure attribute says only send this cookie over SSL, so when you make
> a request to a non-ssl url the browser will not send the cookie, this
> causes ColdFusion to issue a new session.
>
> The best solution is to run all on SSL as Cameron suggested, here's a good
> read on the performance of SSL and TLS:
> http://www.imperialviolet.org/2010/06/25/overclocking-ssl.html the main
> point being that SSL is not as computationally expensive as you may think.
>
> If that's not going to fly then you need to build something to share data
> between the sessions, while making sure that the non-ssl data is not
> privileged - it can get complicated to ensure that your not opening
> yourself up to security issues over non-ssl.
>
> --
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>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:
>
> >
> > So a site that I built failed PCI compliance testing because the
> jsessionid
> > cookie is not set securely.
> >
> > I found this post<
> >
> http://thinkinglemur.com/index.php/2009/02/setting-secure-attribute-of-jsessionid-cookie-in-coldfusion-8/
> > >that
> > shows how to force jrun to do always set the session cookies securely,
> > but the user loses their session state when they move between secure and
> > non-secure pages (the jsessionid is different for secure pages).  This is
> > obviously a big problem, since we can't have the entire user session
> > running under ssl.  Any ideas on how to get the jsessionid to be the same
> > on secure and non-secure pages?  I am a little lost here.
> >
> > I am running cf9.01, with the app set to sessionmanagement="yes" and
> > setclientcookies="no".  In the administrator, I have Cookie set as my
> > default client storage storage mechanism, and J2EE session variables
> > enabled.  I also have use UUID for cftoken enabled, but since I have
> > setclientcookies set to no, I don't think that matters.
> >
> > *-RR*
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01

[Robert Rhodes]

I just put back the jrun setting to pass cookies securely, and am sending
the jsessionid securely again.  And I am set up to use the database for
client storage.

It's still losing the session when I switch between http and https.

I do have setclientcookies to no, because that sets cfid and cftoken
insecurely which is what caused the PCI test failure.

This really should not be this hard.  I an't be the only person dealing
with this issue.  :(


On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Donnie Bachan (Gmail) <
donnie.bac...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Robert,
>
> I'm not sure if I'm missing something but shouldn't you have
> setClientCookies to Yes? Otherwise you'd have to pass the JSESSIONID in the
> url on each request.
>
> Best Regards,
> Donnie Bachan
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>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:
>
> >
> > For both Phillip and Donnie -- I just set the site up for database
> storage
> > for the client session in the cf admin (server settings -> client
> > variables), and I see data going in those two tables, but I am still
> losing
> > the session state when moving from https to http.  I have this set in my
> > application.cfm:
> >
> > clientmanagement="Yes"
> > sessionmanagement="Yes"
> > setclientcookies="No"
> > clientstorage="MyDSN"
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
> >
> >
>
>
> 

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Re: Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01

[Robert Rhodes]

Nope.  Just CF on this sever, and just this one site running.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Phillip Duba  wrote:

>
> Are all your sites running under CF or do you have another Java-based app
> server, like Tomcat/JBoss, running portions of your site as well? That
> happened to me. Someone turned on sessions for a Tomcat app that didn't
> need it and users would drop sessions as they moved around the site from
> the CF side to the Tomcat side,
>
> Phil
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Robert Rhodes 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > For both Phillip and Donnie -- I just set the site up for database
> storage
> > for the client session in the cf admin (server settings -> client
> > variables), and I see data going in those two tables, but I am still
> losing
> > the session state when moving from https to http.  I have this set in my
> > application.cfm:
> >
> > clientmanagement="Yes"
> > sessionmanagement="Yes"
> > setclientcookies="No"
> > clientstorage="MyDSN"
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > I did remove the change I made to jrun to force session cookies to be set
> > securely, but I doubt that matters now, because set client cookies is set
> > to no.
> >
> > I am running cf 9.01 standard.
> >
> > -RR
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Donnie Bachan (Gmail) <
> > donnie.bac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Robert,
> > >
> > > This is odd that you are losing the session, are you using CF in
> > > multiserver mode or standalone? The article you referenced was for CF8,
> > > however, we're currently running CF9 Ent in multiserver mode and we've
> > not
> > > had this issue crop up. We are however using a DB with client cookies
> for
> > > managing state across CF instances.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Donnie Bachan
> > > "Nitendo Vinces - By Striving You Shall Conquer"
> > > ==
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> to
> > > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged
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> > > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or
> > > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you
> received
> > > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from
> any
> > > computer.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Che Vilnonis  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Robert, a product like Fuseguard from Pete Freitag or a Web
> Application
> > > > Firewall (or a plugin type of "filter" to your existing firewall) may
> > > help.
> > > > I'm currently going through a similar process and thought these
> options
> > > > might help.
> > > >
> > > > Ché
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 9:08 AM
> > > > To: cf-talk
> > > > Subject: Re: Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Justin, thanks for the reply, and I get your point, but I can't break
> > out
> > > > the registration process into a standalone site quickly.  There must
> > be a
> > > > fairly quick solution to this problem.  Surely, I can't be the first
> to
> > > > deal
> > > > with this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01

[Robert Rhodes]

For both Phillip and Donnie -- I just set the site up for database storage
for the client session in the cf admin (server settings -> client
variables), and I see data going in those two tables, but I am still losing
the session state when moving from https to http.  I have this set in my
application.cfm:

clientmanagement="Yes"
sessionmanagement="Yes"
setclientcookies="No"
clientstorage="MyDSN"

What am I doing wrong?

I did remove the change I made to jrun to force session cookies to be set
securely, but I doubt that matters now, because set client cookies is set
to no.

I am running cf 9.01 standard.

-RR

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Donnie Bachan (Gmail) <
donnie.bac...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Robert,
>
> This is odd that you are losing the session, are you using CF in
> multiserver mode or standalone? The article you referenced was for CF8,
> however, we're currently running CF9 Ent in multiserver mode and we've not
> had this issue crop up. We are however using a DB with client cookies for
> managing state across CF instances.
>
> Best Regards,
> Donnie Bachan
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> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Che Vilnonis  wrote:
>
> >
> > Robert, a product like Fuseguard from Pete Freitag or a Web Application
> > Firewall (or a plugin type of "filter" to your existing firewall) may
> help.
> > I'm currently going through a similar process and thought these options
> > might help.
> >
> > Ché
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 9:08 AM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01
> >
> >
> > Justin, thanks for the reply, and I get your point, but I can't break out
> > the registration process into a standalone site quickly.  There must be a
> > fairly quick solution to this problem.  Surely, I can't be the first to
> > deal
> > with this.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01

[Robert Rhodes]

Justin, thanks for the reply, and I get your point, but I can't break out
the registration process into a standalone site quickly.  There must be a
fairly quick solution to this problem.  Surely, I can't be the first to
deal with this.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Justin Scott  wrote:

>
> > It's a video streaming site for members.  I can't believe my only
> > option is to stream video across ssl.  There must be another
> > solution.
>
> There is: take the main site out of scope for compliance.  The only
> parts of a system that have to be PCI compliant are the ones that
> handle credit card information, usually an online store or
> subscription system.  There is no technical reason I can think of that
> would require your billing system and video streaming servers to share
> infrastructure.  Separating the billing system out on to its own
> infrastructure means the rest of the system goes out of scope and then
> you can do whatever you want with your cookies on the main part of the
> site.  Keep the billing system isolated and your headaches will be
> greatly reduced.
>
>
> -Justin Sco
>
> 

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Re: Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01

[Robert Rhodes]

It's a video streaming site for members.  I can't believe my only option is
to stream video across ssl.  There must be another solution.

-RR

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:46 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J  wrote:

>
> Just out of curiosity, why can't you have the entire session running under
> SSL? Ever since Firesheep came out it is actually suggested to be all
> encrypted all the time.
>
> Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 2:20 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01
>
>
> So a site that I built failed PCI compliance testing because the jsessionid
> cookie is not set securely.
>
> I found this post<
> http://thinkinglemur.com/index.php/2009/02/setting-secure-attribute-of-jsessionid-cookie-in-coldfusion-8/
> >that
> shows how to force jrun to do always set the session cookies securely,
> but the user loses their session state when they move between secure and
> non-secure pages (the jsessionid is different for secure pages).  This is
> obviously a big problem, since we can't have the entire user session
> running under ssl.  Any ideas on how to get the jsessionid to be the same
> on secure and non-secure pages?  I am a little lost here.
>
> I am running cf9.01, with the app set to sessionmanagement="yes" and
> setclientcookies="no".  In the administrator, I have Cookie set as my
> default client storage storage mechanism, and J2EE session variables
> enabled.  I also have use UUID for cftoken enabled, but since I have
> setclientcookies set to no, I don't think that matters.
>
> *-RR*
>
>
>
>
> 

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Failed PCI Compliance test on CF9.01

[Robert Rhodes]

So a site that I built failed PCI compliance testing because the jsessionid
cookie is not set securely.

I found this 
postthat
shows how to force jrun to do always set the session cookies securely,
but the user loses their session state when they move between secure and
non-secure pages (the jsessionid is different for secure pages).  This is
obviously a big problem, since we can't have the entire user session
running under ssl.  Any ideas on how to get the jsessionid to be the same
on secure and non-secure pages?  I am a little lost here.

I am running cf9.01, with the app set to sessionmanagement="yes" and
setclientcookies="no".  In the administrator, I have Cookie set as my
default client storage storage mechanism, and J2EE session variables
enabled.  I also have use UUID for cftoken enabled, but since I have
setclientcookies set to no, I don't think that matters.

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Re: CFScript Book

[Robert Rhodes]

Hi Cameron.  I know CF very well. I been coding in it for many years.  But,
I admit, I am a little tagged out.

Cfscript feels more elegant, and as I learn more and more javascript, it
seems a natural time to try to get completely up to speed on cfscript.

I do wish Adobe would fill out CF so that one could write mostly in
cfscript and avoid cf tags altogether, if desired.  It would also help when
I end up around small-minded coders who scoff at CF merely because of the
tags.

Yes, I have answers for those types, like how I can produce the same apps
they can, but in 1/3 the time, or how Adobe puts a lot of development into
the language, which gets us big upgrades every few years -- or how we can
get a live body on the phone when we need one.

But still, I really want to be a cfscripter, and I am looking for a path to
make that happen.  There must be at least a few chapters in some book out
there somewhere, no?

Pete, thank you very much for the cheat sheet. That will come in handy.

-RR

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:

>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Robert Rhodes 
> wrote:
>
> > Are there any CFScript books out there?  I ordered this onw but it was a
> > complete joke.  A total waste of money:
> > http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/cfscript-lambert-m-surhone/1026883099.
> >
>
> Is there a reason you want to only learn CFScript?  The CFML language has
> so many tags and many ways of doing things.  Learning only CFScript may not
> serve you well. Attempting to use "all tags" or "all script" is probably
> not the best goal IMHO.
>
> Having said that, the Adobe docs are a good starting point for learning
> CFScript, but if you want more than that I'd look at a "regular ole CF
> Book" like CFWACK, and then look for a CFScript equivalent for what you're
> doing if you really need/want one.
>
> -Cameron
>
> --
> Cameron Childress
> --
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CFScript Book

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello to all.

Are there any CFScript books out there?  I ordered this onw but it was a
complete joke.  A total waste of money:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/cfscript-lambert-m-surhone/1026883099.

All suggestions welcome.

-RR


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Quick CF9 Install questions

[Robert Rhodes]

Hell to all.

I have to deploy a couple new CF9 installs today, and I just want to
confirm that I have this right:

Download the installer here:
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=coldfusion

Then the CF 9 Update 1 (9.01) here:
http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/downloads_updates.html

Then the CF9 Cumulative Hot-Fix here:
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/918/cpsid_91836.html

That's all I need for CF, yes?

Sorry for the dumb question, it's still yesterday to me.  :(

-RR


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Re: Generating Thumbnails of file contents

[Robert Rhodes]

Thanks all for the replies.

You responses confirmed that there is unfortunately no simple solution to
this.

I appreciate the suggestions and see if I can get the client to go with any
of them.

RR

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:

> Hello to all.
>
> I know we can generate thumbnails of PDFs with cfpdf, but is there a way
> with CF to generate thumbnails for Word, Excel, Powerpoint, and text files?
>
> If not, is there some service some where that I can hook into for realtime
> conversion?
>
> Thanks.
>
> RR
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Generating Thumbnails of file contents

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello to all.

I know we can generate thumbnails of PDFs with cfpdf, but is there a way
with CF to generate thumbnails for Word, Excel, Powerpoint, and text files?

If not, is there some service some where that I can hook into for realtime
conversion?

Thanks.

RR


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Re: Looking for a shared host that doesn't block cfobject

[Robert Rhodes]

Russ, thanks for the reply.  Does proper sandboxing and cf9 alleviate the
risks enough to be reasonably safe?  If not, what are the risks?

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> we do not block cfobject, it is less of an issue in CF9 than previous
> versions, it is CreateObject(java) that is more of an issue.
> I'm afraid it is a toss up, you go with a host that disables all the
> dangerous tags and work around it, safe in the knowledge that no-one else
> on
> the server can do anything dodgy either, or you go with a host that allows
> dangerous tags and take the risk.
> Any host should at least be using security sandboxes to lock down any takes
> that allow I/O access, if they have just turned them on and have not sand
> boxed, then they are extremely insecure and you should avoid them.
>
>
> --
>
> Russ Michaels
>
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> developer hosting
>
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>
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Looking for a shared host that doesn't block cfobject

[Robert Rhodes]

Good Morning.

I am looking for a shared host that doesn't block CreateObject(Java).  Any
ideas?

Also, what's the risk on this?  And is there any way to mitigate that risk?
(either by the host or by me)

Thanks.

RR


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missing args in jvm

[Robert Rhodes]

Hi to all.

I notice that the jvms on a couple of my cf9.01 installs dont include these
args that the others do:

-Djava.security.policy={application.home}/../lib/coldfusion.policy
-Djava.security.auth.policy={application.home}/../lib/neo_jaas.policy

What are these for, and why would they be missing form a couple of the
installs?

Maybe I did the 9.01 patch incorrectly on those two boxes?  It is a bit of a
pain in the ass

RR


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Re: (ot) Looking for a good Click-to-Call provider

[Robert Rhodes]

No one here has ever use a click-to-call provider?  Can't believe little old
me is breaking new ground. :)

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:

>
> Hello All.  I am looking for good Click-to-Call provider with a cf-friendly
> web service to consume.  Any recommendations?
>
> RR
>
>
> 

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(ot) Looking for a good Click-to-Call provider

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello All.  I am looking for good Click-to-Call provider with a cf-friendly
web service to consume.  Any recommendations?

RR


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Re: CFIDE weirdness in iis7

[Robert Rhodes]

Andrew, your post on the cf9.01 install problem hits the nail on the head.
I have been complaining about this since I first got cf9.01 running.  I
talked with Adobe tech support, but they could not seem to grasp why I did
not want to install IIS 6 compatibility.  Therefore, they don't see this as
a problem.

So we should not hold our breath for a solution.

RR

Your other pose was an interesting read too

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:

>
> There are a few things one needs to take into consideration when doing
> sandboxing and ORM as well as with the CFIDE, most hosting providers will
> setup a safe version of the CFIDE mapping for you. But what if you are
> looking at doing this yourself?
>
>
> http://www.andyscott.id.au/2011/4/18/ColdFusion-ORM-Event-Handling-and-a-pro
> blem-with-shared-hosting
>
> And things to know when installing ColdFusion 9.01 and some pitfalls people
> may come across.
>
>
> http://www.andyscott.id.au/2011/3/29/Things-to-know-when-installing-ColdFusi
> on-9-then-updating-to-901
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> http://www.andyscott.id.au/
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2011 9:30 AM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: CFIDE weirdness in iis7
> >
> >
> > Oh yeah, I know.  But if you set the connector to all sites, and you add
> a
> new
> > site, they all go down until you remove the connector and reapply it.
> >
> > And even when you set the connector on a site by site basis (which is a
> pain),
> > if you change the site's root directory (like when you are deploying a
> new
> > version), cf stops working for that site and you have remove its
> connector
> > and reapply it again.  Another pain.
> >
> > I have chosen to go with the second approach, becuase at least it doesn;t
> > take down all sites.
> >
> > I really don't want to install iis6 compatibility just to use Coldfusion.
> >
> > Adobe needs to fix this.
> >
>
>
> 

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Re: CFIDE weirdness in iis7

[Robert Rhodes]

Aha.  The trick is to stop cf, rename the incorrect cfide, delete the
web.config files, restart cf, load the administrator at its new location.

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:

> Yes, I tried that.  No luck.  Actually, it's almost as if it is changed,
> but when I log into the Administrator, it reverts back then.  I know that
> sounds crazy...
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Kym Kovan wrote:
>
>>
>> On 5/06/2011 13:52, Robert Rhodes wrote:
>> >
>> > Will, thanks for the reply.  I tried changing the mapping to the cfide
>> > directory in neo-runtime.xml, but it keeps reverting to its original
>> path.
>>
>> make sure you do the edit with CF stopped as it writes its settings back
>> to the file when you shut it down.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours,
>>
>> Kym Kovan
>> mbcomms.net.au
>>
>>
>>
>> 

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Re: CFIDE weirdness in iis7

[Robert Rhodes]

Yes, I tried that.  No luck.  Actually, it's almost as if it is changed, but
when I log into the Administrator, it reverts back then.  I know that sounds
crazy...

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Kym Kovan  wrote:

>
> On 5/06/2011 13:52, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> >
> > Will, thanks for the reply.  I tried changing the mapping to the cfide
> > directory in neo-runtime.xml, but it keeps reverting to its original
> path.
>
> make sure you do the edit with CF stopped as it writes its settings back
> to the file when you shut it down.
>
>
> --
> Yours,
>
> Kym Kovan
> mbcomms.net.au
>
>
>
> 

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Re: CFIDE weirdness in iis7

[Robert Rhodes]

Will, thanks for the reply.  I tried changing the mapping to the cfide
directory in neo-runtime.xml, but it keeps reverting to its original path.

I don't want to use the CFIDE that is in the wwwroot directory, but rather a
copy of the directory in another location.

RR

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Wil Genovese  wrote:

>
> You can manually edit the neo-runtime.xml file and set the mapping to the
> proper location that way.
>
>
>
> Wil Genovese
> Sr. Web Application Developer/
> Systems Administrator
> CF Webtools
> www.cfwebtools.com
>
> wilg...@trunkful.com
> www.trunkful.com
>
> On Jun 4, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
>
> >
> > aha!  I see it now. Unfortunately, I can delete or change that mapping.
>  :(
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Wil Genovese 
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Look at the mappings in the CF Admin - that tells you and CF where the
> >> CFIDE folder is that it's actually using.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Wil Genovese
> >> Sr. Web Application Developer/
> >> Systems Administrator
> >> CF Webtools
> >> www.cfwebtools.com
> >>
> >> wilg...@trunkful.com
> >> www.trunkful.com
> >>
> >> On Jun 4, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I am still grumpy about how 9.01 does not install nicely with IIS7
> >> withouth
> >>> first installing the IIS compatibility tools.
> >>>
> >>> But not I am having a new weirdness.
> >>>
> >>> I usually do not set virtual directories pointing to cfide and cfdocs.
> I
> >> get
> >>> at the administrator on an admin site that is only available via vpn.
> >>>
> >>> When I installed the web connector on IIS7, it automatically added
> those
> >>> virtual directories to a public facing web site, so I deleted them.
>  But
> >>> when you go to the admin login url, the form is still there (but the
> >> links
> >>> to all the images are broken), and you can actually log into the cf
> admin
> >>> from the public site.
> >>>
> >>> But those virtual directories are really deleted!
> >>>
> >>> What am I missing here?
> >>>
> >>> RR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: cf9 query not returning identityCol

[Robert Rhodes]

This is the way I have been doing it.  I may have to keep doing it this way
if I can't get result.identityCol to work the way it is supposed to:


  INSERT INTO
someTable
  (
firstName,
lastName
  )
  VALUES
  (
,

  )
  SELECT
Scope_Identity() AS ID

#tinsertRecord.ID#

It's a little more efficient than doing it with two separate querys.

RR

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear <
jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
> http://cookbooks.adobe.com/post_Getting_the_ID_of_the_Last_Record_Inserted_I
> nto_a-16522.html
>
> I'm curious as to the best way of doing this in CF7.
>
> Currently I do another query to find the last inserted ID, but this seems a
> long winded way of doing things.
>
>
> Jenny Gavin-Wear
> Fast Track eCommerce
> http://www.ftol-ecommerce.com/
>
>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> >>Sent: 05 June 2011 02:11
> >>To: cf-talk
> >>Subject: Re: cf9 query not returning identityCol
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Weird.  Not working for me with cf9 and sql sever 2005.
> >>
> >>Identity Specification = Yes
> >>Is Identity = Yes
> >>Identity Increment 1
> >>Identity Seed 1
> >>
> >>On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Paul Kukiel  wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> It does work and thats the way to do it.  Are you 100% it's an auto inc
> >>> field?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>http://cookbooks.adobe.com/post_Generated_key___Get_the_ID_of_the_
> >>inserted_record-16593.html
> >>>
> >>> Paul.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > That's for MYSQL.  I am using SQL Server 2005.  The docs say
> >>> "identityCol"
> >>> >
> >>> > But I will give it a try..
> >>> >
> >>> > Nope., didn't work.  Thanks, though. :)
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Jason Durham
> >> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> It's theResult.generatedKey
> >>> >> On Jun 4, 2011 4:46 PM, "Robert Rhodes" 
> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I am frustrated. :(
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> In the cf9 docs, it says that cfquery is supposed to return, in the
> >>> >> result
> >>> >>> variable, the identity column value of the inserted record.
> >>However it
> >>> is
> >>> >>> not working from me.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Would one of you kind souls point out my mistake?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>  >>result="theResult">
> >>> >>> INSERT INTO
> >>> >>> someTable
> >>> >>> (
> >>> >>> firstName,
> >>> >>> lastName
> >>> >>> )
> >>> >>> VALUES
> >>> >>> (
> >>> >>>  >>> >>> value="#arguments.firstName#">,
> >>> >>>  >>> >>> value="#arguments.lastName#">
> >>> >>> )
> >>> >>> 
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> #theResult.identityCol#
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> When I run this, identityCol is not there.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I am indeed using an autonumbering identity column in the database.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Yes, I know I can just add a select to this query to get at
> >>it, but I
> >>> >> really
> >>> >>> want this to work, dammit!
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
> 

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Re: cf9 query not returning identityCol

[Robert Rhodes]

Weird.  Not working for me with cf9 and sql sever 2005.

Identity Specification = Yes
Is Identity = Yes
Identity Increment 1
Identity Seed 1

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Paul Kukiel  wrote:

>
> It does work and thats the way to do it.  Are you 100% it's an auto inc
> field?
>
>
> http://cookbooks.adobe.com/post_Generated_key___Get_the_ID_of_the_inserted_record-16593.html
>
> Paul.
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
>
> >
> > That's for MYSQL.  I am using SQL Server 2005.  The docs say
> "identityCol"
> >
> > But I will give it a try..
> >
> > Nope., didn't work.  Thanks, though. :)
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Jason Durham  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> It's theResult.generatedKey
> >> On Jun 4, 2011 4:46 PM, "Robert Rhodes"  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I am frustrated. :(
> >>>
> >>> In the cf9 docs, it says that cfquery is supposed to return, in the
> >> result
> >>> variable, the identity column value of the inserted record. However it
> is
> >>> not working from me.
> >>>
> >>> Would one of you kind souls point out my mistake?
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> INSERT INTO
> >>> someTable
> >>> (
> >>> firstName,
> >>> lastName
> >>> )
> >>> VALUES
> >>> (
> >>>  >>> value="#arguments.firstName#">,
> >>>  >>> value="#arguments.lastName#">
> >>> )
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> #theResult.identityCol#
> >>>
> >>> When I run this, identityCol is not there.
> >>>
> >>> I am indeed using an autonumbering identity column in the database.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I know I can just add a select to this query to get at it, but I
> >> really
> >>> want this to work, dammit!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: cf9 query not returning identityCol

[Robert Rhodes]

That's for MYSQL.  I am using SQL Server 2005.  The docs say "identityCol"

But I will give it a try..

Nope., didn't work.  Thanks, though. :)

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Jason Durham  wrote:

>
> It's theResult.generatedKey
> On Jun 4, 2011 4:46 PM, "Robert Rhodes"  wrote:
> >
> > I am frustrated. :(
> >
> > In the cf9 docs, it says that cfquery is supposed to return, in the
> result
> > variable, the identity column value of the inserted record. However it is
> > not working from me.
> >
> > Would one of you kind souls point out my mistake?
> >
> > 
> > INSERT INTO
> > someTable
> > (
> > firstName,
> > lastName
> > )
> > VALUES
> > (
> >  > value="#arguments.firstName#">,
> >  > value="#arguments.lastName#">
> > )
> > 
> >
> > #theResult.identityCol#
> >
> > When I run this, identityCol is not there.
> >
> > I am indeed using an autonumbering identity column in the database.
> >
> > Yes, I know I can just add a select to this query to get at it, but I
> really
> > want this to work, dammit!
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: CFIDE weirdness in iis7

[Robert Rhodes]

Oh yeah, I know.  But if you set the connector to all sites, and you add a
new site, they all go down until you remove the connector and reapply it.

And even when you set the connector on a site by site basis (which is a
pain), if you change the site's root directory (like when you are deploying
a new version), cf stops working for that site and you have remove its
connector and reapply it again.  Another pain.

I have chosen to go with the second approach, becuase at least it doesn;t
take down all sites.

I really don't want to install iis6 compatibility just to use Coldfusion.

Adobe needs to fix this.

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Matt Quackenbush wrote:

>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
>
> >
> > I am still grumpy about how 9.01 does not install nicely with IIS7
> withouth
> > first installing the IIS compatibility tools.
> >
>
>
> FYI, on a clean installation of CF9.0.1 there is absolutely no need
> whatsoever to install the IIS6 compatibility tools.  Simply run the CF9
> installer and then immediately run the CF9.0.1 update installer.  _THEN_
> browse to the CF Administrator to finish the install.  It truly is that
> simple.
>
>
> 

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Re: CFIDE weirdness in iis7

[Robert Rhodes]

I always thought that cfide being available on a public site was a security
risk, so I have done without, rolling my own as necessary.

Is there a way to have it available and still be totally secure?

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> You do need the CFIDE mapped on your sites if you use ANY of the ajax,
> CFFORM, applets, etc as these need to loads files form the CFIDE, it is
> also
> worth noting that even if you do not map to the master CFIDE on the site
> and
> instead create a copy with only the files you need CF itself still accesses
> the original folder for certain functions. This will probably only affect
> you if you use sandboxing though.
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Wil Genovese 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Look at the mappings in the CF Admin - that tells you and CF where the
> > CFIDE folder is that it's actually using.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Wil Genovese
> > Sr. Web Application Developer/
> > Systems Administrator
> > CF Webtools
> > www.cfwebtools.com
> >
> > wilg...@trunkful.com
> > www.trunkful.com
> >
> > On Jun 4, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I am still grumpy about how 9.01 does not install nicely with IIS7
> > withouth
> > > first installing the IIS compatibility tools.
> > >
> > > But not I am having a new weirdness.
> > >
> > > I usually do not set virtual directories pointing to cfide and cfdocs.
> I
> > get
> > > at the administrator on an admin site that is only available via vpn.
> > >
> > > When I installed the web connector on IIS7, it automatically added
> those
> > > virtual directories to a public facing web site, so I deleted them.
>  But
> > > when you go to the admin login url, the form is still there (but the
> > links
> > > to all the images are broken), and you can actually log into the cf
> admin
> > > from the public site.
> > >
> > > But those virtual directories are really deleted!
> > >
> > > What am I missing here?
> > >
> > > RR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: CFIDE weirdness in iis7

[Robert Rhodes]

aha!  I see it now. Unfortunately, I can delete or change that mapping.  :(

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Wil Genovese  wrote:

>
> Look at the mappings in the CF Admin - that tells you and CF where the
> CFIDE folder is that it's actually using.
>
>
>
>
> Wil Genovese
> Sr. Web Application Developer/
> Systems Administrator
> CF Webtools
> www.cfwebtools.com
>
> wilg...@trunkful.com
> www.trunkful.com
>
> On Jun 4, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
>
> >
> > I am still grumpy about how 9.01 does not install nicely with IIS7
> withouth
> > first installing the IIS compatibility tools.
> >
> > But not I am having a new weirdness.
> >
> > I usually do not set virtual directories pointing to cfide and cfdocs. I
> get
> > at the administrator on an admin site that is only available via vpn.
> >
> > When I installed the web connector on IIS7, it automatically added those
> > virtual directories to a public facing web site, so I deleted them.  But
> > when you go to the admin login url, the form is still there (but the
> links
> > to all the images are broken), and you can actually log into the cf admin
> > from the public site.
> >
> > But those virtual directories are really deleted!
> >
> > What am I missing here?
> >
> > RR
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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CFIDE weirdness in iis7

[Robert Rhodes]

I am still grumpy about how 9.01 does not install nicely with IIS7 withouth
first installing the IIS compatibility tools.

But not I am having a new weirdness.

I usually do not set virtual directories pointing to cfide and cfdocs. I get
at the administrator on an admin site that is only available via vpn.

When I installed the web connector on IIS7, it automatically added those
virtual directories to a public facing web site, so I deleted them.  But
when you go to the admin login url, the form is still there (but the links
to all the images are broken), and you can actually log into the cf admin
from the public site.

But those virtual directories are really deleted!

What am I missing here?

RR


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Re: Debugging SOAP

[Robert Rhodes]

I wanted to circle back and thank everyone who helped me on this thread.

I did as Nathan described below, and it was immediately clear that the
cfinvoke posts were not going out.  After some painful troubleshooting and
using a lot of very bad words, I figured out why.

When using cfinvoke, you must pass ALL arguments specified in the wsdl --
even though they are not required by the service.

I swear, I looked at the cf9 docs a bunch of times and never saw that!

The good news is that you can pass unneeded arguments with omit=yes so you
don't have to set their values. But how crazy is that?  You are required to
pass all arguments just so you can tell cfinvoke to omit them!

In the end it all worked out, but what a pain in the arse!

RR

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Nathan Mische  wrote:

>
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2011, Robert Rhodes  wrote:
> >
> > I don't need to monitor between my computer and the application server.
>  I
> > need to monitor between the application server and a remote server across
> > the web that hosts the web service.
>
> Adding the proxyserver and proxyport attributes to you cfinvoke call
> will proxy the request from the application server to the remote
> server through your local instance of Charles, allowing you to see the
> traffic.
>
> To simply things you may want to install Charles on your development
> server. Then you can set cfinvoke's proxyserver attribute to 127.0.0.1
> and the proxyport to . If using SSL you will still need to
> configure the remote server in Charles and add the Chalres CA to
> ColdFusion key store.
>
> > I have no control over the remote
> > server and the folks that do are only marginally helpful.  Worse, they
> are
> > taking the position that this is a Coldfusion problem.  All very
> > frustrating.
> >
>
> It can be a bit tricky to craft SOAP requests from CF, particularly if
> the remote service expects complex input. You may want to check out my
> chapter on web services and complex types in the ColdFusion Anthology,
> available on Google books: http://bit.ly/cfwebservices
>
> --Na
>
> 

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cf9 query not returning identityCol

[Robert Rhodes]

I am frustrated.  :(

In the cf9 docs, it says that cfquery is supposed to return, in the result
variable, the identity column value of the inserted record.  However it is
not working from me.

Would one of you kind souls point out my mistake?


  INSERT INTO
someTable
  (
firstName,
lastName
  )
  VALUES
  (
,

  )


#theResult.identityCol#

When I run this, identityCol is not there.

I am indeed using an autonumbering identity column in the database.

Yes, I know I can just add a select to this query to get at it, but I really
want this to work, dammit!


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Re: Debugging SOAP

[Robert Rhodes]

Nathan, thanks for the reply.

I don't need to monitor between my computer and the application server.  I
need to monitor between the application server and a remote server across
the web that hosts the web service.  I have no control over the remote
server and the folks that do are only marginally helpful.  Worse, they are
taking the position that this is a Coldfusion problem.  All very
frustrating.

I did try Charles and had no luck, but will take a look again.


On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Nathan Mische  wrote:

>
> You can use a proxy to do this. I use Charles. For example, assume your
> local computer is running Charles and has an IP address of 192.168.1.1 and
> the development server can reach your local computer at that address. In
> your cfinvoke tag, set the proxyServer attribute to 192.168.1.1 and the
> proxyPort to , or whatever port Charles is running on. (The default is
>  but you can find this info in Charles under Proxy Settings...) Run
> your
> application and watch the traffic. If you are making SSL requests you will
> need to to configure Charles. See
> http://www.charlesproxy.com/documentation/proxying/ssl-proxying/. You will
> also need to add the Charles CA Certificate to ColdFusion's root
> certificate
> trust store. For more info on this see the Java Applications section here:
>
> http://www.charlesproxy.com/documentation/using-charles/ssl-certificates/and
> http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/400/kb400977.html.
>
> --Nathan
>
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Robert Rhodes 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes they are willing to do quick non-ssl tests.  But even non-secure I
> have
> > had no luck getting any of the recommended monitors/proxies to capture
> the
> > soap exchange between a cf9 server and their server.
> >
> > They tell me there is nothing specific showing up in their logs.
> >
> > I really just want to see the xml going out and the response.  That
> should
> > tell me everything I need.  It is really frustrating I have had so much
> > trouble with this.
> >
> > RR
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Russ Michaels 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > can you speak to the people who run the web service and ask them if you
> > can
> > > access it without ssl or ask them if have any kind of debugging/testing
> > > interface or perhaps simply give you access to logs..
> > >
> > > Russ
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Robert Rhodes 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > No problem Brook.  Thanks for the replies. :)
> > > >
> > > > It seems I must have an unusual need here.
> > > >
> > > > RR
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Brook Davies 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry Robert, I haven't used it in that context..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Debugging SOAP

[Robert Rhodes]

Yes they are willing to do quick non-ssl tests.  But even non-secure I have
had no luck getting any of the recommended monitors/proxies to capture the
soap exchange between a cf9 server and their server.

They tell me there is nothing specific showing up in their logs.

I really just want to see the xml going out and the response.  That should
tell me everything I need.  It is really frustrating I have had so much
trouble with this.

RR

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> can you speak to the people who run the web service and ask them if you can
> access it without ssl or ask them if have any kind of debugging/testing
> interface or perhaps simply give you access to logs..
>
> Russ
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Robert Rhodes 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > No problem Brook.  Thanks for the replies. :)
> >
> > It seems I must have an unusual need here.
> >
> > RR
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Brook Davies 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Sorry Robert, I haven't used it in that context..
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Debugging SOAP

[Robert Rhodes]

Yes, via cfinvoke. But I am getting errors back on all services when I am
trying to post data.  Getting data via cfinvoke is fine.

Does your reply mean to say that there are problems with cfinvoke?

I could build manually the xml but this is many services with many nodes.
It would take a long time to do it. So I am really  hoping that cfinvoke
works out.


On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Brook Davies  wrote:

>
> How are you sending your request? Via cfinvoke? Or are you crafting the XML
> manually and using CFHTTP? You should know what you are sending and you
> should be able to dump the response no? If your using CFINVOKE to call the
> remote webservice, maybe you could instead try CFHTTP and then dump the
> response?  Am I missing something?
>
> Brook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> Sent: May-24-11 2:43 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Debugging SOAP
>
>
> No problem Brook.  Thanks for the replies. :)
>
> It seems I must have an unusual need here.
>
> RR
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Brook Davies 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Sorry Robert, I haven't used it in that context..
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Debugging SOAP

[Robert Rhodes]

No problem Brook.  Thanks for the replies. :)

It seems I must have an unusual need here.

RR

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Brook Davies  wrote:

>
> Sorry Robert, I haven't used it in that context..
>
>


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Re: Debugging SOAP

[Robert Rhodes]

Anyone else have any ideas on how to monitor SOAP exchanges between my
application server and the remote server hosting the service?

Everything I have tried so far (fiddler, Charles, soapUI, wireshark) is just
not working (Or I don't know enough to make it work).

RR

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:

> Hello everyone. I appreciate the help you have given me recently. Now I
> have a new challenge, and I am sure some of you have faced it before.
>
> I have written an application that gets and puts data to a SOAP .asmx web
> service running on a windows server across the internet.  I am using
> cfinvoke.
>
> All my gets are working fine.  I am getting the expected data.  However all
> my puts are failing, and the guy at the other end says my soap xml must be
> wrong.  Hey, it might be, but I have not been able to come up with a way to
> see it.
>
> I did a google search and found Fiddler and Charles, and installed them
> both on the dev server which is running my application.  But no luck.  Each
> program seems to monitor the traffic between my browser and local dev
> server, but I need to monitor traffic betwen dev server and the other server
> across the internet (on a non-standard ssl port).
>
> Would one of you kind souls tell me how to configure one of these programs
> (or some other program) so I can see my SOAP going out and see the response?
>
> RR
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Debugging SOAP

[Robert Rhodes]

I tried both and fiddler caught the traffic between my browser and CF, but
not between CF and the server across the web hosting the web service.

RR

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Brook Davies  wrote:

>
> I believe fiddler needs to be on the machine that is making the request.
> That's always how I have used it. Typically with next to zero configuration
> required. Can you try:
>
> a) Install it on your machine making the request
> b) Open a browser on your dev server and run the request from there
>
> Brook
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> Sent: May-24-11 10:41 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Debugging SOAP
>
>
> Yes I loaded it on the development web/cf9 server. And I set fiddler to the
> ssl port we are using.
>
> From another computer, I loaded up the site on the dev server and ran the
> cfinvoke to post up the soap to the server across the web.  Fiddler saw
> nothing.
>
> I am sure I have it configured incorrectly.
>
> RR
>
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Brook Davies 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Did you install it on the dev server?
> >
> > Brook
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: May-24-11 10:01 AM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: Debugging SOAP
> >
> >
> > Brook, would you share how to set fiddler up?  I could not get it to
> > show me traffic between by dev server and the remote server. (which is
> > happening on a non-standard SSL port)
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Brook Davies 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I use Fiddler (http://www.fiddler2.com/Fiddler2/version.asp ) for
> > > debugging web service calls and it can dump the raw XML
> > > request/response and allows you to inspect HTTPS traffic...
> > > Brook
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: May-24-11 1:00 AM
> > > To: cf-talk
> > > Subject: Re: Debugging SOAP
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Pete.  I did try soapui, and it looked like it should do what I
> > > wanted, but I could not figure out how to make it work so that I
> > > could capture the outgoing soap and responses between my dev server
> > > and the
> > remote server.
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Pete Freitag 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > SoapUI is a great tool for debugging soap: http://www.soapui.org/
> > > > If you give it a WSDL url it can generate stubs for testing the
> > > > remote service and lets you see and edit all aspects of the soap
> > > > request and response.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ -
> > > > ColdFusion Consulting & Products http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog
> > > > http://hackmycf.com - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Robert Rhodes
> > > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello everyone. I appreciate the help you have given me recently.
> > > > > Now I
> > > > have
> > > > > a new challenge, and I am sure some of you have faced it before.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have written an application that gets and puts data to a SOAP
> > > > > .asmx web service running on a windows server across the internet.
> > > > > I am using cfinvoke.
> > > > >
> > > > > All my gets are working fine.  I am getting the expected data.
> > > > > However
> > > > all
> > > > > my puts are failing, and the guy at the other end says my soap
> > > > > xml must
> > > > be
> > > > > wrong.  Hey, it might be, but I have not been able to come up
> > > > > with a way
> > > > to
> > > > > see it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I did a google search and found Fiddler and Charles, and
> > > > > installed them
> > > > both
> > > > > on the dev server which is running my application.  But no luck.
> > > > > Each program seems to monitor the traffic between my browser and
> > > > > local dev server, but I need to monitor traffic betwen dev
> > > > > server and the other
> > > > server
> > > > > across the internet (on a non-standard ssl port).
> > > > >
> > > > > Would one of you kind souls tell me how to configure one of
> > > > > these
> > > > programs
> > > > > (or some other program) so I can see my SOAP going out and see
> > > > > the
> > > > response?
> > > > >
> > > > > RR
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Debugging SOAP

[Robert Rhodes]

Yes I loaded it on the development web/cf9 server. And I set fiddler to the
ssl port we are using.

>From another computer, I loaded up the site on the dev server and ran the
cfinvoke to post up the soap to the server across the web.  Fiddler saw
nothing.

I am sure I have it configured incorrectly.

RR


On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Brook Davies  wrote:

>
> Did you install it on the dev server?
>
> Brook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> Sent: May-24-11 10:01 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Debugging SOAP
>
>
> Brook, would you share how to set fiddler up?  I could not get it to show
> me
> traffic between by dev server and the remote server. (which is happening on
> a non-standard SSL port)
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Brook Davies 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I use Fiddler (http://www.fiddler2.com/Fiddler2/version.asp ) for
> > debugging web service calls and it can dump the raw XML
> > request/response and allows you to inspect HTTPS traffic...
> > Brook
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: May-24-11 1:00 AM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: Debugging SOAP
> >
> >
> > Hi Pete.  I did try soapui, and it looked like it should do what I
> > wanted, but I could not figure out how to make it work so that I could
> > capture the outgoing soap and responses between my dev server and the
> remote server.
> >
> > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Pete Freitag  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > SoapUI is a great tool for debugging soap: http://www.soapui.org/ If
> > > you give it a WSDL url it can generate stubs for testing the remote
> > > service and lets you see and edit all aspects of the soap request
> > > and response.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ -
> > > ColdFusion Consulting & Products http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog
> > > http://hackmycf.com - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Robert Rhodes 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello everyone. I appreciate the help you have given me recently.
> > > > Now I
> > > have
> > > > a new challenge, and I am sure some of you have faced it before.
> > > >
> > > > I have written an application that gets and puts data to a SOAP
> > > > .asmx web service running on a windows server across the internet.
> > > > I am using cfinvoke.
> > > >
> > > > All my gets are working fine.  I am getting the expected data.
> > > > However
> > > all
> > > > my puts are failing, and the guy at the other end says my soap xml
> > > > must
> > > be
> > > > wrong.  Hey, it might be, but I have not been able to come up with
> > > > a way
> > > to
> > > > see it.
> > > >
> > > > I did a google search and found Fiddler and Charles, and installed
> > > > them
> > > both
> > > > on the dev server which is running my application.  But no luck.
> > > > Each program seems to monitor the traffic between my browser and
> > > > local dev server, but I need to monitor traffic betwen dev server
> > > > and the other
> > > server
> > > > across the internet (on a non-standard ssl port).
> > > >
> > > > Would one of you kind souls tell me how to configure one of these
> > > programs
> > > > (or some other program) so I can see my SOAP going out and see the
> > > response?
> > > >
> > > > RR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Debugging SOAP

[Robert Rhodes]

Brook, would you share how to set fiddler up?  I could not get it to show me
traffic between by dev server and the remote server. (which is happening on
a non-standard SSL port)

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Brook Davies  wrote:

>
> I use Fiddler (http://www.fiddler2.com/Fiddler2/version.asp ) for
> debugging
> web service calls and it can dump the raw XML request/response and allows
> you to inspect HTTPS traffic...
> Brook
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> Sent: May-24-11 1:00 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Debugging SOAP
>
>
> Hi Pete.  I did try soapui, and it looked like it should do what I wanted,
> but I could not figure out how to make it work so that I could capture the
> outgoing soap and responses between my dev server and the remote server.
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Pete Freitag  wrote:
>
> >
> > SoapUI is a great tool for debugging soap: http://www.soapui.org/ If
> > you give it a WSDL url it can generate stubs for testing the remote
> > service and lets you see and edit all aspects of the soap request and
> > response.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ -
> > ColdFusion Consulting & Products http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog
> > http://hackmycf.com - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Robert Rhodes 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello everyone. I appreciate the help you have given me recently.
> > > Now I
> > have
> > > a new challenge, and I am sure some of you have faced it before.
> > >
> > > I have written an application that gets and puts data to a SOAP
> > > .asmx web service running on a windows server across the internet.
> > > I am using cfinvoke.
> > >
> > > All my gets are working fine.  I am getting the expected data.
> > > However
> > all
> > > my puts are failing, and the guy at the other end says my soap xml
> > > must
> > be
> > > wrong.  Hey, it might be, but I have not been able to come up with a
> > > way
> > to
> > > see it.
> > >
> > > I did a google search and found Fiddler and Charles, and installed
> > > them
> > both
> > > on the dev server which is running my application.  But no luck.
> > > Each program seems to monitor the traffic between my browser and
> > > local dev server, but I need to monitor traffic betwen dev server
> > > and the other
> > server
> > > across the internet (on a non-standard ssl port).
> > >
> > > Would one of you kind souls tell me how to configure one of these
> > programs
> > > (or some other program) so I can see my SOAP going out and see the
> > response?
> > >
> > > RR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Debugging SOAP

[Robert Rhodes]

Yes, that is the case.  And all my attempts so for to view the https xml and
response have failed.  This is probably because there is some part of this
that I am just not getting.

I am hoping for that lightbulb moment soon.  In the meantime, I am feeling
totally lost

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:48 AM, James Holmes wrote:

>
> One issue the OP faces is that the traffic is HTTPS. The request will
> have to change to HTTP before anything useful will show up.
>
> --
> WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF
> http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/
>
>
>
> On 24 May 2011 16:14, Jochem van Dieten  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> >> Hello Jochem.  I checked out Wireshark, but did not see a way for it to
> show
> >> me the XML I was sending.  Am I missing something?  It looks like
> Wireshark
> >> is a packet capture tool?
> >
> > Yes, it is a packet capture tool. It allows you to drill down in the
> > results until you reach the SOAP data in the HTTP payload. Just keep
> > expanding the results until you reach it.
> >
> > Jochem
> >
> > --
> > Jochem van Dieten
> > http://jochem.vandieten.net/
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Debugging SOAP

[Robert Rhodes]

Hi Pete.  I did try soapui, and it looked like it should do what I wanted,
but I could not figure out how to make it work so that I could capture the
outgoing soap and responses between my dev server and the remote server.

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Pete Freitag  wrote:

>
> SoapUI is a great tool for debugging soap: http://www.soapui.org/ If
> you give it a WSDL url it can generate stubs for testing the remote
> service and lets you see and edit all aspects of the soap request and
> response.
>
>
> --
> Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional
> http://foundeo.com/ - ColdFusion Consulting & Products
> http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog
> http://hackmycf.com - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure?
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Robert Rhodes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone. I appreciate the help you have given me recently. Now I
> have
> > a new challenge, and I am sure some of you have faced it before.
> >
> > I have written an application that gets and puts data to a SOAP .asmx web
> > service running on a windows server across the internet.  I am using
> > cfinvoke.
> >
> > All my gets are working fine.  I am getting the expected data.  However
> all
> > my puts are failing, and the guy at the other end says my soap xml must
> be
> > wrong.  Hey, it might be, but I have not been able to come up with a way
> to
> > see it.
> >
> > I did a google search and found Fiddler and Charles, and installed them
> both
> > on the dev server which is running my application.  But no luck.  Each
> > program seems to monitor the traffic between my browser and local dev
> > server, but I need to monitor traffic betwen dev server and the other
> server
> > across the internet (on a non-standard ssl port).
> >
> > Would one of you kind souls tell me how to configure one of these
> programs
> > (or some other program) so I can see my SOAP going out and see the
> response?
> >
> > RR
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Debugging SOAP

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello Jochem.  I checked out Wireshark, but did not see a way for it to show
me the XML I was sending.  Am I missing something?  It looks like Wireshark
is a packet capture tool?

rr

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:

>
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> > Would one of you kind souls tell me how to configure one of these
> programs
> > (or some other program) so I can see my SOAP going out and see the
> response?
>
> Install Wireshark to capture all traffic on a system:
> http://www.wireshark.org/
>
> Jochem
>
> --
> Jochem van Dieten
> http://jochem.vandieten.net/
>
> 

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Debugging SOAP

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello everyone. I appreciate the help you have given me recently. Now I have
a new challenge, and I am sure some of you have faced it before.

I have written an application that gets and puts data to a SOAP .asmx web
service running on a windows server across the internet.  I am using
cfinvoke.

All my gets are working fine.  I am getting the expected data.  However all
my puts are failing, and the guy at the other end says my soap xml must be
wrong.  Hey, it might be, but I have not been able to come up with a way to
see it.

I did a google search and found Fiddler and Charles, and installed them both
on the dev server which is running my application.  But no luck.  Each
program seems to monitor the traffic between my browser and local dev
server, but I need to monitor traffic betwen dev server and the other server
across the internet (on a non-standard ssl port).

Would one of you kind souls tell me how to configure one of these programs
(or some other program) so I can see my SOAP going out and see the response?

RR


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Re: Ack! CF9 pages not serving pages on IIS7.5 (404.3 error)

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello Russ.

I see the handler mappings as the site lever.  There are 5 entries.

Are you saying adding those entries at the root will prevemt hte problem I
described, where any change in webroot or adding a site takes down all
sites?

RR

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> you just go into the handler mappings at root or site level and add the
> handler yourself rather than let the web config tool do it.
> the advantage is that you canuse the same connector for all site, whereas
> the config tool creates a new connector for each site, which is pointless
> on
> a standard install.
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Robert Rhodes 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello Russ.  How would I do it manually?  Are there instructions
> somewhere?
> >
> > It sure feels like that's the problem (connectors not being installed at
> > the
> > root level).
> >
> > There just has to be a decent workaround for this problem.
> >
> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Russ Michaels 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I haven't actually tested it yet as we are still running IIS6, however
> if
> > > the problem is that the web config tool is not applying the connectors
> > > correctly at root level then you can try doing this manually and see if
> > > that
> > > resolves the problem.
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Andrew Scott  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, this is a known issue.
> > > >
> > > > What happens is that when you do it in this manner, you are telling
> > > > ColdFusion to run in IIS7 mode. The connectors don't install to all
> the
> > > > websites when you do this, what you need to do is add a connector to
> > each
> > > > site individually.
> > > >
> > > > This blog might shed some more insight.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.andyscott.id.au/2011/3/29/Things-to-know-when-installing-ColdFusi
> > > > on-9-then-updating-to-901
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Andrew Scott
> > > > http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, 12 May 2011 4:30 AM
> > > > > To: cf-talk
> > > > > Subject: Ack! CF9 pages not serving pages on IIS7.5 (404.3 error)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, I downloaded cf 9 and installed it on WIn2K8 R2 Web Server
> > > Edition.as
> > > > a
> > > > > standalone installation.
> > > > >
> > > > > I then ran the 9.01 updater and he 9.01 hotfix.
> > > > >
> > > > > Finally, I ran the webserver config tool and selected IIS all
> sites.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now when I load a cf template I get a 404.3 error and this message:
> > > > >
> > > > > HTTP Error 404.3 - Not Found
> > > > > The page you are requesting cannot be served because of the
> extension
> > > > > configuration. If the page is a script, add a handler. If the file
> > > should
> > > > be
> > > > > downloaded, add a MIME map.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am sure I did something wrong.  Any suggestions
> > > > >
> > > > > RR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Ack! CF9 pages not serving pages on IIS7.5 (404.3 error)

[Robert Rhodes]

Hey Kym.  So are you saying that you don't have to remove and reinstall the
connector every time you add a site (or change a directory)?

What's the down-side of running with the ii6 extensions installed?

If there is not a big performance hit, it might make sense to do so.



On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Kym Kovan  wrote:

>
> Just to add to the last two, we originally installed with CF9 and so
> needed IIS6 compatibility turned on. When we upgraded to 9.0.1 we left
> that all on and have had no issues.
>
> I wonder if turning that on (add it in like the ASP.Net via
> Roles/Features) might help after another pass with the webconfig tool.
>
>
>
> On 12/05/2011 16:08, Russ Michaels wrote:
> >
> > I haven't actually tested it yet as we are still running IIS6, however if
> > the problem is that the web config tool is not applying the connectors
> > correctly at root level then you can try doing this manually and see if
> that
> > resolves the problem.
> >
> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Andrew Scott >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Yes, this is a known issue.
> >>
> >> What happens is that when you do it in this manner, you are telling
> >> ColdFusion to run in IIS7 mode. The connectors don't install to all the
> >> websites when you do this, what you need to do is add a connector to
> each
> >> site individually.
> >>
> >> This blog might shed some more insight.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.andyscott.id.au/2011/3/29/Things-to-know-when-installing-ColdFusi
> >> on-9-then-updating-to-901
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Andrew Scott
> >> http://www.andyscott.id.au/
>
>
> --
> Yours,
>
> Kym Kovan
> mbcomms.net.au
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Ack! CF9 pages not serving pages on IIS7.5 (404.3 error)

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello Russ.  How would I do it manually?  Are there instructions somewhere?

It sure feels like that's the problem (connectors not being installed at the
root level).

There just has to be a decent workaround for this problem.

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> I haven't actually tested it yet as we are still running IIS6, however if
> the problem is that the web config tool is not applying the connectors
> correctly at root level then you can try doing this manually and see if
> that
> resolves the problem.
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Andrew Scott  >wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, this is a known issue.
> >
> > What happens is that when you do it in this manner, you are telling
> > ColdFusion to run in IIS7 mode. The connectors don't install to all the
> > websites when you do this, what you need to do is add a connector to each
> > site individually.
> >
> > This blog might shed some more insight.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.andyscott.id.au/2011/3/29/Things-to-know-when-installing-ColdFusi
> > on-9-then-updating-to-901
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrew Scott
> > http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 12 May 2011 4:30 AM
> > > To: cf-talk
> > > Subject: Ack! CF9 pages not serving pages on IIS7.5 (404.3 error)
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, I downloaded cf 9 and installed it on WIn2K8 R2 Web Server
> Edition.as
> > a
> > > standalone installation.
> > >
> > > I then ran the 9.01 updater and he 9.01 hotfix.
> > >
> > > Finally, I ran the webserver config tool and selected IIS all sites.
> > >
> > > Now when I load a cf template I get a 404.3 error and this message:
> > >
> > > HTTP Error 404.3 - Not Found
> > > The page you are requesting cannot be served because of the extension
> > > configuration. If the page is a script, add a handler. If the file
> should
> > be
> > > downloaded, add a MIME map.
> > >
> > > I am sure I did something wrong.  Any suggestions
> > >
> > > RR
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Ack! CF9 pages not serving pages on IIS7.5 (404.3 error)

[Robert Rhodes]

Andrew, thanks.  That is exactly what I was experiencinging.

I am quite surprised that this problem has not been sorted out by Adobe.  I
really like CF, but this seems a bit lame.

I briefly tried installing the connector on individual sites, but it didn't
seem to work (was still getting 404.3 errors). Since I was short on time, I
set the connector for all sites and made myself a big not tom remind me not
to touch anything. It's crazy I had to do that.

Adobe needs to get this sorted out.

RR

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:

>
> Yes, this is a known issue.
>
> What happens is that when you do it in this manner, you are telling
> ColdFusion to run in IIS7 mode. The connectors don't install to all the
> websites when you do this, what you need to do is add a connector to each
> site individually.
>
> This blog might shed some more insight.
>
>
> http://www.andyscott.id.au/2011/3/29/Things-to-know-when-installing-ColdFusi
> on-9-then-updating-to-901
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> http://www.andyscott.id.au/
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, 12 May 2011 4:30 AM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Ack! CF9 pages not serving pages on IIS7.5 (404.3 error)
> >
> >
> > Ok, I downloaded cf 9 and installed it on WIn2K8 R2 Web Server Edition.as
> a
> > standalone installation.
> >
> > I then ran the 9.01 updater and he 9.01 hotfix.
> >
> > Finally, I ran the webserver config tool and selected IIS all sites.
> >
> > Now when I load a cf template I get a 404.3 error and this message:
> >
> > HTTP Error 404.3 - Not Found
> > The page you are requesting cannot be served because of the extension
> > configuration. If the page is a script, add a handler. If the file should
> be
> > downloaded, add a MIME map.
> >
> > I am sure I did something wrong.  Any suggestions
> >
> > RR
>
>
> 

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Re: Ack! CF9 pages not serving pages on IIS7.5 (404.3 error)

[Robert Rhodes]

Dave, thanks for the reply.  That might be the only solution, but isn't the
behaviour I describe odd?

CF9 didn't behave this way on iis6.

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > Anyone have any suggestions on how to set up CF9 with IIS7.5 so that is
> does
> > not exhibit this crazy behavior?  I can't take every site down each time
> I
> > make a change in IIS.
>
> You can configure each IIS virtual server individually with wsconfig.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite
>
> 

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Re: Ack! CF9 pages not serving pages on IIS7.5 (404.3 error)

[Robert Rhodes]

Well that kinda helps, but only for a time.

After I run the web service configuration tool and  select ALL for IIS Web
Site, and check configure web server for Coldfusion 9 applications, CF will
process pages fine... but only until I change the webroot of an existing
site or add anther site.  Then, all sites stop serving and give that 404.3
error until I remove the CF web config and reinstall it.Then things work
fine until the next time I change a directory or add a site, when it will
die again.

This certainly was not the case in IIS6.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to set up CF9 with IIS7.5 so that is does
not exhibit this crazy behavior?  I can't take every site down each time I
make a change in IIS.

RR

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Jason Durham  wrote:

>
> Run wsconfig again (add/remove sites)
> On May 11, 2011 2:00 PM, "Robert Rhodes"  wrote:
> >
> > Ok, I downloaded cf 9 and installed it on WIn2K8 R2 Web Server Edition.as
> a
> > standalone installation.
> >
> > I then ran the 9.01 updater and he 9.01 hotfix.
> >
> > Finally, I ran the webserver config tool and selected IIS all sites.
> >
> > Now when I load a cf template I get a 404.3 error and this message:
> >
> > HTTP Error 404.3 - Not Found
> > The page you are requesting cannot be served because of the extension
> > configuration. If the page is a script, add a handler. If the file should
> be
> > downloaded, add a MIME map.
> >
> > I am sure I did something wrong. Any suggestions
> >
> > RR
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Ack! CF9 pages not serving pages on IIS7.5 (404.3 error)

[Robert Rhodes]

Ok, I downloaded cf 9 and installed it on WIn2K8 R2 Web Server Edition.as a
standalone installation.

I then ran the 9.01 updater and he 9.01 hotfix.

Finally, I ran the webserver config tool and selected IIS all sites.

Now when I load a cf template I get a 404.3 error and this message:

HTTP Error 404.3 - Not Found
The page you are requesting cannot be served because of the extension
configuration. If the page is a script, add a handler. If the file should be
downloaded, add a MIME map.

I am sure I did something wrong.  Any suggestions

RR


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(ot) Couple of quick IIS 7 questions

[Robert Rhodes]

Sorry for the off-topic questions, but everyone here is so helpful, and if
you saw my posts, you know that   I am under the gun.

1) How do I remove "Server: Microsoft-IIS/7.5" from the response headers?

2) Have any of you ever user IIS7 caching for a CF site? I am assuming it
will be applicable only for images, but this site has a lot of them.  Which
mode  do I use?  Kernel-mode or User-mode?

Thanks for all your help.  You folks are keeping me sane.


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Re: Coldfusion 9 on Windows 2008 R2 Server Web Server Edition?

[Robert Rhodes]

It was a pain to find, but thatworked .  Thanks.

I really don't like the new IIS 7  interface...

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Kym Kovan  wrote:

>
> On 11/05/2011 17:02, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> >
> > Well, it wasn't as easy as I had hoped.
> >
> > I installed cf 9 as a standalone installation.  I updated to 9.01 and
> > applied the 9.01 hotfix.
> >
> > I then ran the web Server Configuration Tool, and got an error:
> >
> > ASP.Net Window's feature is not installed. They are required to configure
> > IIS7 Connector.
> >
> > I am installing this on Wn2K8 R2 Web Server Edition as  I mentioned
> above.
> >
> > So now what? :)
>
> In the Server Manager "home page" go to the Roles section and add the
> needed service. By default only the minimum is installed so you need to
> add in ASP.Net, etc.
>
>
>
> --
> Yours,
>
> Kym Kovan
> mbcomms.net.au
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Coldfusion 9 on Windows 2008 R2 Server Web Server Edition?

[Robert Rhodes]

I wanted to add that I did not install the IIS6 compatibility extensions.
So that isn't the problem.

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:

> Well, it wasn't as easy as I had hoped.
>
> I installed cf 9 as a standalone installation.  I updated to 9.01 and
> applied the 9.01 hotfix.
>
> I then ran the web Server Configuration Tool, and got an error:
>
> ASP.Net Window's feature is not installed. They are required to configure
> IIS7 Connector.
>
> I am installing this on Wn2K8 R2 Web Server Edition as  I mentioned above.
>
> So now what? :)
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
>
>> Ok, thanks.  I haven't installed cf9 before and I didn't want to find out
>> when I got there that I didn't know what to do.   Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Start -> program files -> adobe -> coldfusion 9
>>>
>>> it is self explanitory
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Robert Rhodes 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Sorry about the typos:
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Robert Rhodes 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Sorry.  Where is the the web config tool?  And is it
>>> self-explanatory, or
>>> > > is there documentation somewhere?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Russ Michaels >> > >wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >> choose the standard server config, but install it using the built in
>>> web
>>> > >> server and do not configure IIS.
>>> > >> then update to 9.0.1
>>> > >> then use the web config tool to enable CF on IIS7
>>> > >> you can then simply copy the CFIDE from c:\coldfusion9\wwwroot to
>>> your
>>> > IIS
>>> > >> website if you wish to run it from there.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:21 AM, Robert Rhodes >> >
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Dave pardon the lame question, but which install option do I pick
>>> if
>>> > not
>>> > >> > server configuration?  And then how do I hook up to IIS after the
>>> > fact?
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > RR
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Dave Watts 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > > Just a quick question.  Will Coldfusion 9 run fine on Windows
>>> 2008
>>> > >> R2
>>> > >> > > Server
>>> > >> > > > Web Server Edition?  Or do I need to buy Standard edition
>>> > licenses?
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > Yes, you can install CF on any version of Windows Server 2008.
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > > Also, so I still need to install the II6 compatibility
>>> extensions?
>>> > >> Or
>>> > >> > has
>>> > >> > > > that all be sorted out now.
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > You will have to update CF to 9.0.1 before hooking it to IIS, if
>>> you
>>> > >> > > want to avoid installing the IIS 6 compatibility layer.
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>>> > >> > > http://www.figleaf.com/
>>> > >> > > http://training.figleaf.com/
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
>>> > >> > > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>>> > >> > > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsit
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> 

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Re: Coldfusion 9 on Windows 2008 R2 Server Web Server Edition?

[Robert Rhodes]

Well, it wasn't as easy as I had hoped.

I installed cf 9 as a standalone installation.  I updated to 9.01 and
applied the 9.01 hotfix.

I then ran the web Server Configuration Tool, and got an error:

ASP.Net Window's feature is not installed. They are required to configure
IIS7 Connector.

I am installing this on Wn2K8 R2 Web Server Edition as  I mentioned above.

So now what? :)



On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:

> Ok, thanks.  I haven't installed cf9 before and I didn't want to find out
> when I got there that I didn't know what to do.   Thanks again.
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
>
>>
>> Start -> program files -> adobe -> coldfusion 9
>>
>> it is self explanitory
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Robert Rhodes 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Sorry about the typos:
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Robert Rhodes 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Sorry.  Where is the the web config tool?  And is it self-explanatory,
>> or
>> > > is there documentation somewhere?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Russ Michaels > > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> choose the standard server config, but install it using the built in
>> web
>> > >> server and do not configure IIS.
>> > >> then update to 9.0.1
>> > >> then use the web config tool to enable CF on IIS7
>> > >> you can then simply copy the CFIDE from c:\coldfusion9\wwwroot to
>> your
>> > IIS
>> > >> website if you wish to run it from there.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:21 AM, Robert Rhodes 
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Dave pardon the lame question, but which install option do I pick
>> if
>> > not
>> > >> > server configuration?  And then how do I hook up to IIS after the
>> > fact?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > RR
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Dave Watts 
>> > wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > Just a quick question.  Will Coldfusion 9 run fine on Windows
>> 2008
>> > >> R2
>> > >> > > Server
>> > >> > > > Web Server Edition?  Or do I need to buy Standard edition
>> > licenses?
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Yes, you can install CF on any version of Windows Server 2008.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > Also, so I still need to install the II6 compatibility
>> extensions?
>> > >> Or
>> > >> > has
>> > >> > > > that all be sorted out now.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > You will have to update CF to 9.0.1 before hooking it to IIS, if
>> you
>> > >> > > want to avoid installing the IIS 6 compatibility layer.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> > >> > > http://www.figleaf.com/
>> > >> > > http://training.figleaf.com/
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
>> > >> > > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>> > >> > > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsit
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 

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Re: Coldfusion 9 on Windows 2008 R2 Server Web Server Edition?

[Robert Rhodes]

Ok, thanks.  I haven't installed cf9 before and I didn't want to find out
when I got there that I didn't know what to do.   Thanks again.

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> Start -> program files -> adobe -> coldfusion 9
>
> it is self explanitory
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Robert Rhodes 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Sorry about the typos:
> >
> > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Robert Rhodes 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry.  Where is the the web config tool?  And is it self-explanatory,
> or
> > > is there documentation somewhere?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Russ Michaels  > >wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> choose the standard server config, but install it using the built in
> web
> > >> server and do not configure IIS.
> > >> then update to 9.0.1
> > >> then use the web config tool to enable CF on IIS7
> > >> you can then simply copy the CFIDE from c:\coldfusion9\wwwroot to your
> > IIS
> > >> website if you wish to run it from there.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:21 AM, Robert Rhodes 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > Dave pardon the lame question, but which install option do I pick if
> > not
> > >> > server configuration?  And then how do I hook up to IIS after the
> > fact?
> > >> >
> > >> > RR
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Dave Watts 
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Just a quick question.  Will Coldfusion 9 run fine on Windows
> 2008
> > >> R2
> > >> > > Server
> > >> > > > Web Server Edition?  Or do I need to buy Standard edition
> > licenses?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yes, you can install CF on any version of Windows Server 2008.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Also, so I still need to install the II6 compatibility
> extensions?
> > >> Or
> > >> > has
> > >> > > > that all be sorted out now.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > You will have to update CF to 9.0.1 before hooking it to IIS, if
> you
> > >> > > want to avoid installing the IIS 6 compatibility layer.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > >> > > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > >> > > http://training.figleaf.com/
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> > >> > > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> > >> > > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsit
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Coldfusion 9 on Windows 2008 R2 Server Web Server Edition?

[Robert Rhodes]

Sorry about the typos:

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:

> Sorry.  Where is the the web config tool?  And is it self-explanatory, or
> is there documentation somewhere?
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Russ Michaels wrote:
>
>>
>> choose the standard server config, but install it using the built in web
>> server and do not configure IIS.
>> then update to 9.0.1
>> then use the web config tool to enable CF on IIS7
>> you can then simply copy the CFIDE from c:\coldfusion9\wwwroot to your IIS
>> website if you wish to run it from there.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:21 AM, Robert Rhodes 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Dave pardon the lame question, but which install option do I pick if not
>> > server configuration?  And then how do I hook up to IIS after the fact?
>> >
>> > RR
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > > Just a quick question.  Will Coldfusion 9 run fine on Windows 2008
>> R2
>> > > Server
>> > > > Web Server Edition?  Or do I need to buy Standard edition licenses?
>> > >
>> > > Yes, you can install CF on any version of Windows Server 2008.
>> > >
>> > > > Also, so I still need to install the II6 compatibility extensions?
>> Or
>> > has
>> > > > that all be sorted out now.
>> > >
>> > > You will have to update CF to 9.0.1 before hooking it to IIS, if you
>> > > want to avoid installing the IIS 6 compatibility layer.
>> > >
>> > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> > > http://www.figleaf.com/
>> > > http://training.figleaf.com/
>> > >
>> > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
>> > > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>> > > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsit
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 

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Re: Coldfusion 9 on Windows 2008 R2 Server Web Server Edition?

[Robert Rhodes]

Sorry.  Where is the the web config tool?  ANd is it welf-explanatory, or is
there documentation somewhere?

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> choose the standard server config, but install it using the built in web
> server and do not configure IIS.
> then update to 9.0.1
> then use the web config tool to enable CF on IIS7
> you can then simply copy the CFIDE from c:\coldfusion9\wwwroot to your IIS
> website if you wish to run it from there.
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:21 AM, Robert Rhodes 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dave pardon the lame question, but which install option do I pick if not
> > server configuration?  And then how do I hook up to IIS after the fact?
> >
> > RR
> >
> > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > Just a quick question.  Will Coldfusion 9 run fine on Windows 2008 R2
> > > Server
> > > > Web Server Edition?  Or do I need to buy Standard edition licenses?
> > >
> > > Yes, you can install CF on any version of Windows Server 2008.
> > >
> > > > Also, so I still need to install the II6 compatibility extensions? Or
> > has
> > > > that all be sorted out now.
> > >
> > > You will have to update CF to 9.0.1 before hooking it to IIS, if you
> > > want to avoid installing the IIS 6 compatibility layer.
> > >
> > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > > http://training.figleaf.com/
> > >
> > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> > > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> > > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsit
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Robert Rhodes]

I talked them into a few more days.  Currently we are aiming for Friday.
Phew!

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Brian Polackoff  wrote:

>
> So how did your first day go? Any load issues with the setup the good folks
> on this recommended?
>
> Brian Polackoff
>
> On May 8, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Kym Kovan  wrote:
>
> >
> > On 8/05/2011 10:58 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> >>
> >> I installed Win2K8 on one of the servers last night, and discovered
> there is
> >> actually 6GB of memory in them.  I had forgotten that I had to install
> the
> >> RAM sticks in threes on these servers.  Just sitting there idling, it's
> got
> >> 340mb cached, 5451mb available, and 5133mb free.
> >
> > 6GB, that's a nice number. Set the JVM max to 3GB, max perm to 512 and
> > let it take traffic. If all is good the OS will bump up to about 1GB and
> > the cache the same leaving a smidge of fully free mem.
> >
> > If you have a server monitor of some form you can then balance as needed.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > Kym Kovan
> > mbcomms.net.au
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Coldfusion 9 on Windows 2008 R2 Server Web Server Edition?

[Robert Rhodes]

Dave pardon the lame question, but which install option do I pick if not
server configuration?  And then how do I hook up to IIS after the fact?

RR

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > Just a quick question.  Will Coldfusion 9 run fine on Windows 2008 R2
> Server
> > Web Server Edition?  Or do I need to buy Standard edition licenses?
>
> Yes, you can install CF on any version of Windows Server 2008.
>
> > Also, so I still need to install the II6 compatibility extensions? Or has
> > that all be sorted out now.
>
> You will have to update CF to 9.0.1 before hooking it to IIS, if you
> want to avoid installing the IIS 6 compatibility layer.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsit
>
> 

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Re: Coldfusion 9 on Windows 2008 R2 Server Web Server Edition?

[Robert Rhodes]

I do use MSSQL, but never on server that is web-facing.  So, that will not
be a problem.

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> yes it will run fine.
> The limitations of web edition are windows related, you cannot installed
> MSSQL for example, but it doesn;t stop you installing any 3rd party
> software.
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Robert Rhodes 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello again.
> >
> > Just a quick question.  Will Coldfusion 9 run fine on Windows 2008 R2
> > Server
> > Web Server Edition?  Or do I need to buy Standard edition licenses?
> >
> > Also, so I still need to install the II6 compatibility extensions? Or has
> > that all be sorted out now.
> >
> > RR
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Coldfusion 9 on Windows 2008 R2 Server Web Server Edition?

[Robert Rhodes]

Hello again.

Just a quick question.  Will Coldfusion 9 run fine on Windows 2008 R2 Server
Web Server Edition?  Or do I need to buy Standard edition licenses?

Also, so I still need to install the II6 compatibility extensions? Or has
that all be sorted out now.

RR


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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Robert Rhodes]

I installed Win2K8 on one of the servers last night, and discovered there is
actually 6GB of memory in them.  I had forgotten that I had to install the
RAM sticks in threes on these servers.  Just sitting there idling, it's got
340mb cached, 5451mb available, and 5133mb free.

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Kym Kovan  wrote:

>
> On 8/05/2011 9:29 AM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> >
> > It looks like I will be x64 on Win2K8R2 for two of these boxes which will
> > have only 4gb on memory, at least for now.
> >
> > With that in mind... can I up my jvm settings a bit?
>
>
> In a prod environment the OS will run about 1GB mem usage and 2K8 has
> this extra mem allocation caching trick which is really useful on hard
> working machines but you cannot allow much for that with only 4GB RAM.
> I'd say set the JVM for 2.5GB and 512 Perm and see how it flows (Look at
> mem usage in the Resource Monitor which you find in the Task Manager, if
> there is just a tad of "Really Free Mem" then you are fine.)
>
>
>
> --
>
> Yours,
>
> Kym Kovan
> mbcomms.net.au
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Robert Rhodes]

It looks like I will be x64 on Win2K8R2 for two of these boxes which will
have only 4gb on memory, at least for now.

With that in mind... can I up my jvm settings a bit?

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Mark A. Kruger wrote:

>
> Robert,
>
> Get a fairly "standard" set of JVM args and duplicate them on all 4. Since
> you are running 32bit you will be limited to a 1.3 gig heap size (max 1280m
> would be a good starting space with a 256 meg perm size). Since you don't
> have time to do anything else I'd say go for it and see what happens. The
> only thing that worries me is sessions... are you confident that your round
> robin scheme will work and there's no problem with user information
> (sessions) crossing from one to the other... or not crossing as the case
> may
> be :)
>
> -mark
>
>
> Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
> (402) 408-3733 ext 105
> www.cfwebtools.com
> www.coldfusionmuse.com
> www.necfug.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:45 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
>
>
> Thanks. I'll look into that.  Being a Windows guy, I am not sure how well
> Squid and I would get along. :)
>
> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Cameron Childress  >wrote:
>
> >
> > In addition to other comments, it might be worth spending a minute
> > reading up on Squid:
> >
> > http://www.squid-cache.org/
> >
> > Caching some or all of the site could mean you can do the entire thing
> > with just 2 CF machines.  In my experience, the bottleneck for Squid
> > is not the OS or Squid itself, but the capacity of the network cards
> > in the machine.  It can handle ALOT of traffic.  The learning curve
> > required to implement this may or may not be within your time window.
> >
> > -Cameron
> >
> > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rob Rhodes  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was
> > qualified enough to offer opinions.  Well, that has not changed.
> > >
> > > But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to
> > handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site.
> > >
> > > I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL
> > server site that gets well over a million page views per day.  It was
> > previously running on multiple servers using shared array.
> > >
> > > It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this
> > weekend.  So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions.  I
> just
> > need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan.
> > >
> > > Until then, here is my working plan.  Please tell me what you think.
> > >
> > > I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86
> > (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server
> x64
> > running SQL Server 2005.  These servetrs are recent installs and do not
> have
> > any other sites on them.
> > >
> > > My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the
> same
> > database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached)
> > >
> > > I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load
> > distribution.
> > >
> > > Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm
> > tuning suggestions to help handle the load.
> > >
> > > Ok let me have it.  Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed?
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Robert Rhodes]

Well, I am thinking I will try one or two win2K8 servers.  Unfortunately, I
can't order any licenses until Monday.  And by then it will be too late.

Does anyone know if the evaluation version of Win2K* R2 in MS TechNet will
work temporarily as web server in evaluation mode (no license applied)?
That is: will a W2K* R2 server in evaluation mode allow all these
connections?

I know we are suopposed to use them in production, but I really would order
the licenses before I installed them and would apply the licenses on those
servers as soon as they came in.

I am hoping it is a minor sin. :)


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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Robert Rhodes]

Thanks. I'll look into that.  Being a Windows guy, I am not sure how well
Squid and I would get along. :)

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:

>
> In addition to other comments, it might be worth spending a minute
> reading up on Squid:
>
> http://www.squid-cache.org/
>
> Caching some or all of the site could mean you can do the entire thing
> with just 2 CF machines.  In my experience, the bottleneck for Squid
> is not the OS or Squid itself, but the capacity of the network cards
> in the machine.  It can handle ALOT of traffic.  The learning curve
> required to implement this may or may not be within your time window.
>
> -Cameron
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rob Rhodes  wrote:
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was
> qualified enough to offer opinions.  Well, that has not changed.
> >
> > But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to
> handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site.
> >
> > I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL
> server site that gets well over a million page views per day.  It was
> previously running on multiple servers using shared array.
> >
> > It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this
> weekend.  So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions.  I just
> need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan.
> >
> > Until then, here is my working plan.  Please tell me what you think.
> >
> > I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86
> (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64
> running SQL Server 2005.  These servetrs are recent installs and do not have
> any other sites on them.
> >
> > My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same
> database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached)
> >
> > I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load
> distribution.
> >
> > Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm
> tuning suggestions to help handle the load.
> >
> > Ok let me have it.  Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed?
> >
>
> 

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