RE: HELP!!!!

[Scott, Andrew]

Why not, if one needs to have them grouped then this is a way!!!


-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 April 2001 11:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: HELP


You shouldn't have two checkboxes on a form with the same name.  Also, I
think the correct syntax is checked="checked" and not just checked.

HTH,

Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
On-Line Data Solutions, Inc.
www.CoolFusion.com
631-737-4668 x101
inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - the World's most configurable mail server

- Original Message -
From: "Jay E Wigginton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 9:09 PM
Subject: HELP


> I am trying to do a simple  statement within a forms input/checkbox
> tag...
>
> The page debugging info displays
>
> URL Parameters:
>
> PERSON=80,81
>
> The Query results do produce an ID equal to 80 and 81...
>
>
> 
>  ListFindNoCase(url.person,id)>checked>
> 
>
>
> PROBLEM:
> The checkboxes never show up as "checked" Am I just having a major
lapse
> in memory or is there something I have done wrong here?
>
>
> thanks
> Jay
>
>
>
>
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RE: MIME TYPE?

[Scott, Andrew]

cfcontent, and then use the mimetype that is required for the file!

HTH


-Original Message-
From: Brian Thornton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 April 2001 14:01
To: CF-Talk
Subject: MIME TYPE?


Anyone know how to download a file instead on displaying it on the browser?
To generate to pop up dialog for saving it to a disk...

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RE: Registry size.

[Scott, Andrew]

Not if you follow the basic guidelines and user variables instead of hard
coding this info, also to be 100% sure wrap these with cftry and have your
own custom message!!! That should make it harder for anyone to second guess.



-Original Message-
From: Neil H. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 April 2001 12:01
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Registry size.


Jon,
If there is ever an error in the dsn won't the server throw the DSN
name.  This would become a security issue since user X can query user Y's
client info?

Thanks,

Neil

- Original Message -
From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: Registry size.


> Changing the client variables to be stored in a database is one of the
first
> things I do on a new server. Using an Access database is much better than
> the registry. SQL Server or any other real rdbms is even better.
>
> jon
> - Original Message -
> From: "Neil H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 5:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Registry size.
>
>
> > I host several sites with people and some really sloppy code.  Does
using
> a
> > MDB have any ramifications.  Also won't people be able to manipulate
this
> > database?!  They can't manipulate the registry since it is locked there
is
> > no CFregistry.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Arden Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 9:59 PM
> > Subject: RE: Registry size.
> >
> >
> > > Time to move your client variables to ODBC source, etc... to avoid
> > CrAsHiTiSe.
> > >
> > >  ^
> > > / \__
> > >(@\___
> > >   /  O
> > >  /(_/
> > > /_/
> > > Whoof...
> > > 410-757-3487
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Neil H. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 7:47 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Registry size.
> > >
> > > I noticed my registry is getting huge (128 megs) and that I increased
it
> > to
> > > 160 megs for space sakes but are the entries in there that I can
remove
> > from
> > > CF not collecting garbage?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> >
>
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RE: CFSETTING "HTML Strings" *URGENT*

[Scott, Andrew]

Or how about something like this:-)


#CategoryName1#
#CategoryName2#


Would probably execute faster too!!



-Original Message-
From: bfalloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 April 2001 00:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFSETTING "HTML Strings" *URGENT*


Hello,

Can someone help me with this problem?

I want to create a string that contains HTML. Specifically a 'path' string
to be
outputted at the top of a page with variable content. The problem that I
have
is that I need to do something like this...

Category Sub">

The problem is that because of the quotation marks within the string itself,
it is terminating
the CFSET command before it gets to the end of the string.

I'm not sure if I should use the converted HTML ie. < becomes < and so on
because I need to output 'functional' HTML on the page below this CFSET, not
'display' HTML.

Can someone explain how this should be phrased.
I may also need to append more string information onto the end of this
string
depending of other query results.

Thanks in advance!

Benjamin Falloon
Objektmedia
www.objekt.com.au
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RE: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:

[Scott, Andrew]

Some email clients allow this, others do not!!!


-Original Message-
From: Erika L Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 March 2001 15:17
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:


I want to know how zac gets his quote in his email sig to change with every
post... :)

>>>Mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and
utter hopelessness, the other to extinction. Let us pray
we choose correctly.

Woody Allen

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: http://www.pixelgeek.com/



Erika

-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 7:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:


Insert/Table/ 4 rows 3 columns. done. That's why I use it. I'm not saying
anyone else should. Everyone codes differently. For me though, time is the
most important factor. This is the fastest way I have figured out to do lay
out tables.

Now that I think about it. Tables are a really boring topic.
I'm outta here

jon
- Original Message -
From: "zac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: Unbelievable! Patricia Lee wrote:


> Jon Hall wrote:
>
> > Every minute Ultradev save me, even just laying out tables is worth it.
As
> > much as I love writing  a hundred times for each page,
I
> > really cant afford that!
>
> Why wouldn't you just use the table builder in CF Studio? Or create a
> snippet of common table defs in a project?
>
> --
>
> Mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and
> utter hopelessness, the other to extinction. Let us pray
> we choose correctly.
>
>
> Woody Allen
>
>
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> web: http://www.pixelgeek.com/
>
>
>
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RE: javascript to set cfvariable?

[Scott, Andrew]

It is going to depend on what you want to do, you could use WDDX to send the
information to the server as well as the other methods described here.


-Original Message-
From: Hayes, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 March 2001 10:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: javascript to set cfvariable?


 Well, I figured that one could wait a while; besides I've had some
problems with it on certain platforms.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 6:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: javascript to set cfvariable?


> No you can't, Ethan.  Here's the standard answer:
>
> Javascript is client side, Cold Fusion is server side.
>
> To get information from the client browser to the Cold Fusion
> server, you'll
> need to pass the information as form or url parameters.

Or in a gif data-pipe if you want to get tricky:

http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Content/ColdFusion/Essays/GIFAs
Pipe/

(watch the line wrap)

:)
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RE: Anybody seen this before?

[Scott, Andrew]

Maybe the registry has reached its limit, in most cases the registry can be
set to grow as needed. Its the only thing I can think of from the top of my
head:-)



-Original Message-
From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 March 2001 11:13
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Anybody seen this before?


Error attempting to get the client (Client ID = '168975').
A problem was encountered trying to access the system registry. Error number
1450 occurred.


The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of
(CFAPPLICATION), occupying document position (4:1) to (8:31).
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RE: Server Beta2 question.

[Scott, Andrew]

Best to post this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not in here, if you have access to
the beta.allaire.com as there is a forum there for these discussions!



-Original Message-
From: Les Irvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 March 2001 10:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Server Beta2 question.


I tested the CFServer 5.0 beta on one machine with no problem.  I installed 
it on another machine and now get the message "This copy of Allaire 
ColdFusion is licensed for use by a single user only" when trying to call 
pages from another IP address.  Is this a configuration error or is the 
beta only a single-user app?
Thanks,
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RE: CF, ASP, and Front Page playground?

[Scott, Andrew]

I have worked under NT 4, and W2K with the mentioned programs...

However one thing to remember is that Frontpage is NOT secure and should
never be used in production!


-Original Message-
From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 March 2001 10:15
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF, ASP, and Front Page playground?


W2K Yes haven't tried NT4, but don't see any reason why they couldn't 
coexist


From: "Douglas Knudsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CF, ASP, and Front Page playground?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:17:00 -0600



Ok, let me put my brain back in and re-phrase this

Does anyone have all these three technologies 'running' on a single
NT4 server successfully?  I am not interested in mixing them
programmatically, just that they are all available and play well on
the server together.  I personally do not wish to go any where near
the FrontPage extensions, that stuff sucks b@!!$.  My boss claims that
his InterDev requires the FP extensions for debugging and stuff and he
is a die hard fan of Interdev, hence this question arises.

Also, anyone using IIS5, NT4, and CF4.5 together?

Thoughts?

DK



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AT INTERNET on 03/21/2001 09:08 AM

To:   Douglas Knudsen/ATL/ALLTELCORP, [EMAIL PROTECTED] AT
   INTERNET@CCMAIL
cc:

Subject:  CF, ASP, and Front Page playground?


Anyone using all three of these?  ColdFusion 4.5, ASP, and Front Page
extensions?  Do they play well together?

Thanks!

-
Douglas Knudsen
Leveraged Technologies Group
Alltel AIS
678-351-6063
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RE: White space

[Scott, Andrew]

I agree on the savings that it can achieve, but again at what cost.

If it ends up adding (and yes I have seen this) say 2000 ms in a very big
site that has hundreds of cfm files. Would this 2 seconds be better of
getting the information to the client, than trying to remove whitespace!

But as Philip said it is personal preference:-)


-Original Message-
From: Lanny R. Udey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 March 2001 14:06
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: White space


If you cache a lot of your pages like we do, then getting rid of the white
space is a big savings. This is particularly true if you have a lot of
people accessing your pages through modems via AOL etc. The saving on
download time on a 33 Kbs modem is substantial. We cut page sizes down from
40 K to 8K and that is after we used all the proper coding techniques.

Lanny Udey
Hofstra University




>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, March 15, 2001 >>>
Yes agreed, and the other thing that annoys me a little is that with Spectra
(which generates a lot of space, and overheads to any site) some developers
are very quick to incorporate the code to remove the white space etc. But
this throws so much extra processing that it would be better to leave the
whitespace alone.

And I agree that in a very heavy visited site, the less work the server has
to do the better of it is. Sure one could argue that you can just keep
throwing more $'s into the hardware, but why spend unnecessary money when
you don't have too. I mean we have a hard enough time convincing people to
purchase CF as it is without having to turn around and add to the cost's

Just my $0.02 worth:-)

 

-Original Message-
From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 15 March 2001 22:01
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: White space


> You raised some good points there, and I agree that it is all down to
> preference. However, text does travel faster than binary files. But if you
> are intent on removing the whitespace, bare in mind that you want to still
> be able to forsee the scalability of the code and the method used
> to create
> the backend.
>
> For example, with a system that is designed to be portable. Easy to
> maintain, and debug. You couldn't take all the methods listed, to achieve
> this sort of system. You can use these in parts, to help cut down but I
> don't think putting that much load onto the server really warrants a few
> extra k of text.

I'm personally of the opinion that if the server runs the templates faster,
then you can serve more users - if they have to wait a fraction of a second
longer, so what?

I'd rather serve 200 pages a second than 150 (or whatever the figures are)

Philip Arnold
Director
Certified ColdFusion Developer
ASP Multimedia Limited
T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133

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RE: White space

[Scott, Andrew]

Yes agreed, and the other thing that annoys me a little is that with Spectra
(which generates a lot of space, and overheads to any site) some developers
are very quick to incorporate the code to remove the white space etc. But
this throws so much extra processing that it would be better to leave the
whitespace alone.

And I agree that in a very heavy visited site, the less work the server has
to do the better of it is. Sure one could argue that you can just keep
throwing more $'s into the hardware, but why spend unnecessary money when
you don't have too. I mean we have a hard enough time convincing people to
purchase CF as it is without having to turn around and add to the cost's

Just my $0.02 worth:-)

 

-Original Message-
From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 March 2001 22:01
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: White space


> You raised some good points there, and I agree that it is all down to
> preference. However, text does travel faster than binary files. But if you
> are intent on removing the whitespace, bare in mind that you want to still
> be able to forsee the scalability of the code and the method used
> to create
> the backend.
>
> For example, with a system that is designed to be portable. Easy to
> maintain, and debug. You couldn't take all the methods listed, to achieve
> this sort of system. You can use these in parts, to help cut down but I
> don't think putting that much load onto the server really warrants a few
> extra k of text.

I'm personally of the opinion that if the server runs the templates faster,
then you can serve more users - if they have to wait a fraction of a second
longer, so what?

I'd rather serve 200 pages a second than 150 (or whatever the figures are)

Philip Arnold
Director
Certified ColdFusion Developer
ASP Multimedia Limited
T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133

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RE: Custom Tag

[Scott, Andrew]

Yes so then why not do this:-



and in the tag use 



-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 March 2001 13:11
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Custom Tag


> > I pass an attribute to the custom tag :   > query_name="myQuery">
> > 
> > and within the custom tag I use:
> > 
> > \
> 
> And why can't you just use:-
> 
> 
> 
> from within the custom tag:-)

Because the attribute value being passed is, in the above example, just a
string that happens to contain a value that corresponds with the name of
another variable, the query object itself.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: Custom Tag

[Scott, Andrew]

And why can't you just use:-



from within the custom tag:-)



-Original Message-
From: Toby Tremayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 March 2001 12:50
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Custom Tag


I pass an attribute to the custom tag :  

and within the custom tag I use:




it works perfectly


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-Original Message-
From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2001 8:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Custom Tag


I tried Caller.xxx and it didn't find it I will have to test it again...
Maybe I had some other problem... because I thought it would be that simple
as well.

Nathan



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> From: Philip Arnold - ASP [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:47 AM
> To:   CF-Talk
> Subject:  RE: Custom Tag
>
> > When in a custom tag how can you reference the query that is
> > located in the
> > callers page...
> >
> > EX:
> > 
> > select a,b,c
> > from y
> > 
> >
> > 
> > ---
> > MyTag.cfm
> >
> > How can I look at all of the items in the query 'xxx'?
>
> You're going to kick yourself as to how simple this is;
> caller.xxx
>
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RE: IIS Permissions/Rights Problem Accessing cfm templates on one site

[Scott, Andrew]

I have seen this many times with newer versions of the mdac, the only
solution would be to manually reset the permissions on the dir/files to what
they should be for the IIS server M$ tends to do this every now and then
with the mdac release, and I wish they would get this right one day!



-Original Message-
From: Paul Sinclair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 March 2001 11:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: IIS Permissions/Rights Problem Accessing cfm templates on one
site


I've got a strange problem that cropped up recently - I believe it has to do
with applying MDAC 2.6. I haven't been able to fix the trouble and am hoping
someone on this list may have some help.

I have numerous websites on a single WinNT 4.0/SP6a, CFEnt 4.5.1/SP2
machine. Many of the sites have cfm templates but all of these are working
except for one. On the one site where things are not working correctly (and
this site has not had problems before), all of a sudden it seems to have
lost its NT rights or permissions to run properly.

After stopping/restarting IIS, the first browse to any *.cfm template in the
site elicits a login box. If I try to login using an ordinary user on the
domain (i.e., a user in the Users group), the login fails. I have to login
as a user with at least the rights/permissions of someone in the PowerUsers
group. Obviously, a user in the Administrators group can log in
successfully.

What is especially strange is that once a user with the proper rights has
logged in after IIS has been restarted, the site runs just fine. Anyone
anywhere else can browse to it and no login prompt pops up. But if IIS is
stopped/restarted, a login prompt pops up for the first browse to a cfm page
in the site.

The login prompt problem doesn't arise if trying to browse to any file other
than *.cfm templates.

To deal with this temporarily I have set the anonymous IIS user for this web
site to a user in the PowerUsers group and this works fine. But I don't want
to leave it this way for too long.

Things I have looked at and done to try and diagnose/fix the problem:

1. The permissions on all the files in the site's home directory look like
they are correct (Everyone Full Control).
2. IIS Directory Security for the site is set to Anonymous Access.
3. When I browse to *.htm or *.asp files in this problem site, no login is
required.
4. When I browse to a *.cfm template for any other site on the machine, no
login is required.
5. I've created a simple file with nothing in it but Hello
world and named it hello.cfm. Even browsing to this simple cfm
template pops up the login prompt.
6. Reapplied NT SP6a.
7. Reapplied CF Ent 4.5.1 SP2.
8. Reapplied MDAC 2.6.
9. Applied Jet 4.0 SP3 (required after installing MDAC 2.6 apparently).

I've looked at just about everything I can think of to fix this but am out
of ideas. Anyone out there have some suggestions?

Thanks,
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RE: reading local INI file

[Scott, Andrew]

WDDX is probably the best way, although you could use XML. The only problem
with XML is that from both the Windows Application and the Web Server would
need to use a XML passer, whereas WDDX can be used under Delphi by inlcuding
the relevant dll into the Application and from the server well that is the
easy part. 



-Original Message-
From: Jason Egan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 March 2001 15:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: reading local INI file


I didn't write the delphi forms, but the programmer that did is quite
sharp... but I know he'll ask how he passes a var from delphi to cf... ??

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 12:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: reading local INI file


> I have set up several kiosks, each of them are connected
> to the net... I need to uniquely identify each computer,
> but without human intervention. The browser is a Delphi
> form, and part of the INI file that is on each kiosk
> contains a unique ID for that kiosk. Any ideas for reading
> that INI file on the local computer without human
> intervention? Each kiosk doesn't have pws or cf express or
> anything running on them, just a straight NT box with IE
> and these Delphi forms.
>
> ??? - I know how to read through and INI file that is on the
> server, but not on the local box.

Usually, the answer would be to write an ActiveX executable to do this for
you, and have that executable downloaded from your server via an OBJECT
reference in your HTML page.

However, it would probably be even easier to simply add some code to your
Delphi forms, and have them send the ID back on each page request.

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RE: Custom tags

[Scott, Andrew]

Ben not to forget the fact that if your able to, one can change the registry
setting for this to include other directories


-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 March 2001 14:09
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Custom tags


To call with  syntax they need to be under C:\CFUSION\CustomTags (or
current directory). If you use  they can be anywhere.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Parker, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 9:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Custom tags


Do custom tags have to be stored under the custom tags directory or can they
be run from anywhere?




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RE: Another Security Question...

[Scott, Andrew]

I suggest reading Ben Forta's books, these questions are covered in the
Advanced Coldfusion Application Development book



-Original Message-
From: Vance Duke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 March 2001 08:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Another Security Question...


I figured out the other Advanced Security issue and I wanted to say thank
you.

Now I have another question.  I have a Security context with all Domain
Users allowed the access the application.  No problem there.  NOW, I want to
limit a part of the application to just a certain subset of domain users
setup in a User Group.  Those users would have access to the main part of
the application, but also need access to the HR functions.  Do I need to set
up another security context and Authorize them against that context also (in
other words, 2 CFAuthenticate statements)?  Or how would I do that?  How do
I know that they are part of that User Group when they log in?

Thanks for the help,
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RE: ENCTYPE="multipart/form-data" problem

[Scott, Andrew]

I wouldn't be surpised if its IE5.0, try another version of IE or even
netscape if its convenient to do There was a problem located with using
JScript and the submit function with submitting from a form where previous
versions worked IE5.5 would tend to submit the data twice:-)


-Original Message-
From: mjohnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 28 February 2001 21:22
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: ENCTYPE="multipart/form-data" problem


I have experienced the same problem, but I am not sure what causes it
exactly.  However I do have a solution.  Instead of putting values in the
form elements put them in the form action.  Ie.



instead of





Mark

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Love [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 4:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: ENCTYPE="multipart/form-data" problem


I have used forms like the one you describe many times and have never the
problem you are having, so you can be sure it is not the CF server...

Are you setting method to post in the form tag?
Do you have any CFlocations based on the file input field (if the page
relocates you will lose the form fields)?

Post the code for all to look at and I'm sure you'll get a more informative
answer.  Good luck!


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-Original Message-
From: Scott Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ENCTYPE="multipart/form-data" problem


I don't know if this is a CF problem yet, but I haven't been able to get to
the bottom of it:

The problem arises when using ENCTYPE="multipart/form-data" to allow the use

of files in a form. It seems that if a file is present, then all is well.
However if the file field is empty then none of the other form data (input
type="text" etc.) are avalable to the processing page. You get the error
"Error resolving parameter FORM.PRICE" or something similar. Removing the
enctype parameter from the form cures the problem (but this disables the
file capabilities).

We are using: CF Enterprise 4.5.1, Windows 2000 ADV server / IIS 5, IE5.0
(to submit the form).

I guess the problem could be with any of these (of couse it could just be me

doing something stupid).

Anyway, if anyone has experienced the same problem or has an explaination I
would be very grateful.

Thanks,

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RE: com & wddx

[Scott, Andrew]

With these objects you need to include these in the VBasic compiler
project->components will give you a list of components to include, I don't
recall the exact name for the wddx stuff. However I think this information
is in the Advanced Ben Forta Book


-Original Message-
From: Richard Meredith-Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 March 2001 05:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: com & wddx


Dear all

(Its been a while since I was on the list)

It occurred to me that it might be a clever thing to be able to send
data in wddx packets directly from excel 2000 (win 95) up to the server
(if you were online)... BUT

In my experimentations I have done as asked in the wddx.org SDK which
comes with CF 4.5 ref installing & registering wddx_com.dll but when I
run the VBA code (code taken verbatim from Forta) it fails on the first
line!

Set MyDeser = CreateObject("WDDX.Deserializer.1")

Run-time error '438':
Object doesn't support this property or method


wddx_com.dll seems OK in the OLE/COM OBject viewer (No idea what I'm
looking for though!)
There does seem to be some sort of problem with xmlparse.dll and
xmltok.dll in as much that I get the message xmltok.dll was loaded but
the DLLRegisterServer entry point was not found etc. when I run regsvr32
xmltok.dll  I've tried deleting & Reinstalling these files but no diff.

ANY Ideas Please!



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RE: CF Studio 4.5.2 Error

[Scott, Andrew]

I am not getting it here under CF Studio 4.5.2... Maybe its got something to
do with a configuration in the settings you use?

-Original Message-
From: Todd Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 March 2001 08:04
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Studio 4.5.2 Error


It happens to me.  I also get that even when hitting the save icon
sometimes.  I don't know of any fixes.

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From: "Reilly, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 3:42 PM
Subject: CF Studio 4.5.2 Error


|
| When I save a file  (ctrl-s) in CF Studio 4.5.2,
| and my cursor is near a " or a #, it automatically
| adds another "  or # respectively, next to it.
|
| Does this happen to anyone else?   Fixes..?
|
| (this did not happen before I upgraded from 4.5.1)
|
|
| Tkx,
| Jim
|
|
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RE: page encryption

[Scott, Andrew]

Hi,

Do you mean that you want to encrypt the cfml template using the command
line encrypt/decrypt... If so then just use this on the templates you wish
to encrypt, making sure you have a backup before you do. Because once it is
encrypted you can't decrypt it (Well not legally anyway)

CF Server will do the rest.


-Original Message-
From: Haryono ... [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 March 2001 13:41
To: CF-Talk
Subject: page encryption


Hallo,
I want to ask about page encryption.
How can I use encrypt page in ColdFusion?

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RE: Question on .htm?user=25 deal

[Scott, Andrew]

IIS is a web server:-)


-Original Message-
From: Tony Schreiber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 March 2001 10:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Question on .htm?user=25 deal


It's a Webserver thing, not an IIS thing. There are other webservers out
there...

> map *.cf instead of *.cfm as this has nothing to do with the CF Server and
> is an IIS thing... After all the cfm extension is already mapped to the cf
> service
> 
> So the answer to the question would be yes you can, just go into the IIS
> configuration and make the changes needed for the extension you want, and
> treat this extension the same as you would with cfm:-)


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RE: Server-to-Server FTP

[Scott, Andrew]

Server A and Server B will need an ftp server installed, if you need Server
C to control this then without writing anything heavy use cfftp to connect
to server A and copy the files to Server B

Regardless of whether this is written as cfml or a com object, you still
need the ftp server installed on these two machines first.

Maybe an easier way to do this, is depending on how Server A/B are connected
it might be easier to make a VPN connection between Server A/B and write a
bat file to copy the files there

Just depends more on your requirements.




-Original Message-
From: defective dreams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 March 2001 09:48
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Server-to-Server FTP


Is there a COM object that will allow Server-to-Server FTP?

I want to transfer files from server A to server B via FTP, but my CF server
is server C.

I know I could just grab all the files from server A then upload them to
server B, but I was hoping to save bandwidth.
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RE: Question on .htm?user=25 deal

[Scott, Andrew]

I have followed this thread with interest, however I think a lot of you are
missing the point... If I undetsrand the question rightly, it was asked that
instead of using the extension .cfm for cfml would it be possible to map
this with a different extension name...

Although the answers I have seen are correct, they are only correct because
this is what you need to know about standard cfml development anyway. I
don't believe there to be any difference in perfomance hits if you decide to
map *.cf instead of *.cfm as this has nothing to do with the CF Server and
is an IIS thing... After all the cfm extension is already mapped to the cf
service

So the answer to the question would be yes you can, just go into the IIS
configuration and make the changes needed for the extension you want, and
treat this extension the same as you would with cfm:-)




-Original Message-
From: Tony Schreiber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 March 2001 09:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Question on .htm?user=25 deal


Not exactly. Let's be specific:

Mapping .html to any pre-processor (php, cf, asp, ssi, cgi) MAY result in
a performance hit BECAUSE ALL HTML FILES would be parsed by the
pre-processor. Instead of .html being ignored by CF, they would be
processed even if they don't contain any cfm...

> This type of extension mapping (i.e. mapping a cfm to html) also
> results in a performance hit, or so I have been told.
> 
> Shane Witbeck
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: Phoeun Pha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:34:31 -0600
> 
> >So u mean, i can map my coldfusion server to, let's say,
"mycoolextension",
> >and index.mycoolextension will be read as a CFM file?!!!  that'll be
cool!  
> >
> >
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RE: Studio and Save As shenanigans

[Scott, Andrew]

Don't know but I reported this back in the days that V4.0 was in beta, if it
hasn't been fixed I suggest sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the
details:-)



-Original Message-
From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 February 2001 03:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Studio and Save As shenanigans


How can you get Studio to open successive Save As dialogue boxes starting in
the same folder instead of having to constantly change to the folder you're
working in?



Thanks

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RE: Strengths of each

[Scott, Andrew]

First of all thanks for the part about the asp.net, I haven't the time to
digest this information at the moment. I am well aware that there is no
Custom Tag functionality in ASP and that you need to write functions.

I have all this already coded and ready to go, what I need is the logic to
know what variables have been set in a page (ASP pages only) so that I can
take these out of ASP and migrate these across to CF. Going from CF to ASP
is no problem what so ever:-)

So if you have code that I can see that would do this I would like to see
it:-)



-Original Message-
From: Eric Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 February 2001 04:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Strengths of each


> if there was a tag like cfa_dump on ASP, that could dump session,
> application etc then I have the code waiting but I just need that
answered.

In ASP you can Dump all the variables.  Its not too hard. Their are 5
intrinsic objects in ASP   : Response, Request, Application, Session and
Server. For any of these objects you could simply walk their structure
using a FOR IN loop.

In ASP their aren't really custom tags. ... you can write functions, run
include files, or instantiate some type of object to do the work ... the
quickest would most likely write the code in a function.  And simply
include it on the pages you want to show the debug information.  You
might want to look into the Trace functionality coming in ASP.NET (
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?URL=/library/dotnet/cpguid
e/cpcontracefunctionality.htm)


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RE: Strengths of each

[Scott, Andrew]

I had also started to adoipt something like this, but sometimes time is not
very kind to some...

Anyway my main concern would be the overheads off pulling this information
out all the time, yet when I did stop to think about it I would assume the
overheads would be similar to using client variables and having this stored
into a datasource...

Would I be right on this?


-Original Message-
From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 February 2001 16:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Strengths of each


One of the things that I have been working on recently is My own 
Session/Application management System.

All variables are stored in the database, VBScript functions and CF Custom 
Tags are used to pull these variables. This system was designed to easily 
be ported to any Language. If for some reason we wanted to add a JSP or C++ 
portion to a given application, it could continue to use the same session
info.

Right now I am in the early development stages, so a lot of stuff has to be 
done twice, but I plan to move most of it into stored procs.


>To answer your first question, yes, CF and ASP can coexist on the server,
>there are no problems having a mix of ColdFusion and ASP pages within a
>site, however, I'm pretty certain you can forget sharing Session and
>Application variables between these environments.  But you could pass
>variables through on URL's.
>
>We tend to write CF only sites now, while we used to be mainly ASP
>developers, however we've never needed to mix the two.
>
>Hope this helps a little bit.  Feel free to contact me off list if you have
>any further questions.
>
>Nick
>
> > From: "Terry Troxel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:09:31 -0800
> > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Strengths of each
> >
> > I am posing a question that has been rattling around in my mind for
>awhile.
> > My host runs on O'Reilly WebSite Pro, so I have zero exposure to IIS and
> > maybe that is why I m in the dark.
> > I would like to know if CF and ASP can co-exist and possibly trade data
>like
> > CF does with javascript, WAP, etc.
> >
> > The second part of my question is if this is possible has anyone
compiled
>a
> > list of what types of procedures, functionality is best handled by
which.
> >
> > If these questions are true then I have to get onto an IIS host, and
start
> > learning ASP to broaden my skills. I assume this is the path alot of you
> > have taken by the frequency of ASP and CF in your signatures.
> >
> > Terry Troxel
> >
> >
> >
>
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RE: Strengths of each

[Scott, Andrew]

Your right it uses CFHTTP...

The idea is that there is certain information that is added to the generated
content, that can be passed back to the Web Server. Thus allowing for
interaction, what I was looking for was a way to return the variables using
ASP back to CF somehow.

The problem is that as I only know the basics of ASP, so I have no idea if
ASP as the same advantages as CF in being able to get the collection of
variables... If we could then this would be a good way to get the two to
communicate in the one page

btw there are small overheads, and that's because a file has to be created
to be passed to the web server Hope this helps more, if not just ask.


-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 February 2001 14:43
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Strengths of each


I would have to see what your custom tag is but I would think either you are
using cfhttp to do everythign or you are using wscript. Either way there is
gonna be a way to do it, so if you would be so kind as to send me your code
so that I may evaluate a way to do this.


bob everland

-Original Message-
From: Scott, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 6:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Strengths of each


Actually you can mix the two, and I have developed a custom tag that can do
something like the following


 <%
  a=1
  b=2
  c=3
 %>


Which would then execute the ASP from within the cfml template, the only
problem is that I haven't found a way to share the result with CF. But I
could do something like the following without any problems.






 <%
  a=1
  b=2
  c=3
  #strTest#
 %>



But I haven't had the time to learn enough about ASP, to take the variables
from ASP tp Coldfusion So if anyone has any ideas to develop this
further I would like to hear from you.



-Original Message-
From: Nick Texidor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 February 2001 08:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Strengths of each


Hi Terry,

To answer your first question, yes, CF and ASP can coexist on the server,
there are no problems having a mix of ColdFusion and ASP pages within a
site, however, I'm pretty certain you can forget sharing Session and
Application variables between these environments.  But you could pass
variables through on URL's.

We tend to write CF only sites now, while we used to be mainly ASP
developers, however we've never needed to mix the two.

Hope this helps a little bit.  Feel free to contact me off list if you have
any further questions.

Nick

> From: "Terry Troxel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:09:31 -0800
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Strengths of each
>
> I am posing a question that has been rattling around in my mind for
awhile.
> My host runs on O'Reilly WebSite Pro, so I have zero exposure to IIS and
> maybe that is why I m in the dark.
> I would like to know if CF and ASP can co-exist and possibly trade data
like
> CF does with javascript, WAP, etc.
>
> The second part of my question is if this is possible has anyone compiled
a
> list of what types of procedures, functionality is best handled by which.
>
> If these questions are true then I have to get onto an IIS host, and start
> learning ASP to broaden my skills. I assume this is the path alot of you
> have taken by the frequency of ASP and CF in your signatures.
>
> Terry Troxel
>
>
>
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RE: [End session on browser close]

[Scott, Andrew]

What it does is resets the cookie with the same value it once held, but if
you read the documentation on cfcookie you will find out that it defaults to
expire now if the expire attribute is not passed.

Hope this helps:-)




-Original Message-
From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 February 2001 10:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [End session on browser close]


I'm a bit confused by what this piece of code is supposed to do.  Looks
to me like you reassign cookie values to themselves.  Not sure how that
solves the problem.

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Alex wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>   
>   
>   
>   
> 
> 
> "David Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How can you kill the session when the browser is closed, or the user
leaves
> your site?
> 
> (In ASP, the session ends when you close the browser)
> 
> I've looked at the Allaire developers exchange and a number of people had
> the same question, but nobody had responded with an answer.
> 
> Thanks,
> David J. Berger
> Senior Web Developer
> Cynergy Consulting
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RE: Validating Checkboxes

[Scott, Andrew]

You might need to post the snippet of code for the submit and action
pages... Radio and Checkboxes if nothing is selected do not get passed back
to the server.

cfparam name="Checkbox_Name" default=""> will only set it up as null if its
not already set up. But as for validation, what do you mean by this. Do you
mean validate that it exists, validate the data or something completely
different:-)



-Original Message-
From: Roque,Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 February 2001 09:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Validating Checkboxes


I am trying to pass a value if when a box is selected. Right now I use a
CFPARAM default ="". On submit it looks like it does something even though
it really does not.

Carlos Roque
I.S., WebMaster
x2154

 -Original Message-
From:   Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject:RE: Validating Checkboxes

what kind of validation?  please explain

-Original Message-
From: Roque,Carlos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Validating Checkboxes


Anyone have a good method in CF for validating checkboxes (grouped).


Carlos Roque
I.S., WebMaster
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RE: Strengths of each

[Scott, Andrew]

Actually you can mix the two, and I have developed a custom tag that can do
something like the following


 <%
  a=1
  b=2
  c=3
 %>


Which would then execute the ASP from within the cfml template, the only
problem is that I haven't found a way to share the result with CF. But I
could do something like the following without any problems.






 <%
  a=1
  b=2
  c=3
  #strTest#
 %>



But I haven't had the time to learn enough about ASP, to take the variables
from ASP tp Coldfusion So if anyone has any ideas to develop this
further I would like to hear from you.



-Original Message-
From: Nick Texidor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 February 2001 08:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Strengths of each


Hi Terry,

To answer your first question, yes, CF and ASP can coexist on the server,
there are no problems having a mix of ColdFusion and ASP pages within a
site, however, I'm pretty certain you can forget sharing Session and
Application variables between these environments.  But you could pass
variables through on URL's.

We tend to write CF only sites now, while we used to be mainly ASP
developers, however we've never needed to mix the two.

Hope this helps a little bit.  Feel free to contact me off list if you have
any further questions.

Nick

> From: "Terry Troxel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:09:31 -0800
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Strengths of each
> 
> I am posing a question that has been rattling around in my mind for
awhile.
> My host runs on O'Reilly WebSite Pro, so I have zero exposure to IIS and
> maybe that is why I m in the dark.
> I would like to know if CF and ASP can co-exist and possibly trade data
like
> CF does with javascript, WAP, etc.
> 
> The second part of my question is if this is possible has anyone compiled
a
> list of what types of procedures, functionality is best handled by which.
> 
> If these questions are true then I have to get onto an IIS host, and start
> learning ASP to broaden my skills. I assume this is the path alot of you
> have taken by the frequency of ASP and CF in your signatures.
> 
> Terry Troxel
> 
> 
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RE: "isdefined" obsolete?

[Scott, Andrew]

No IsDefined replaced ParameterExists...



-Original Message-
From: DSJ / PC1, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 February 2001 08:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: "isdefined" obsolete?


Hello All,

Just got a new web hosting account and it appears to have some old CF code
in it, which is not working.  Do I recall correctly that "isdefined" is no
longer valid for use in CF?  I'm running CF 4.51 on my server.

Thanks in advance for any help!

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RE: local user time

[Scott, Andrew]

You could use Javascript to do this:-)

Not sure on the syntax as I don't use it much... Maybe someone can shed more
light on it, but JS has suite of Date functions available and then its a
matter of then fiiting it into how you need it to work onLoad or
whatever to activate the function and then have this display it to the HTML
via innerHTML depending on what you need to do with it.



-Original Message-
From: Ethan Rosch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 February 2001 02:23
To: CF-Talk
Subject: local user time


What's the best way to get the time off of the users local machine?
The Now() fuctions pulls server time.

Thank you

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RE: View source in NS 6

[Scott, Andrew]

I have not seen this with NS6, can youy show me some example sites that I
could see it with..




-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 February 2001 09:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: View source in NS 6


Yup, NS6 randomly does not submit form variables. This is perhaps the worst
bug a browser can have.

jon
- Original Message -
From: "JL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:49 PM
Subject: View source in NS 6


> Hi all,
>
> I got this problem when i use netscape 6.01.  Everything is fine when I
use IE
> 5.5 or NS 4.x.
>
> I have a form page with multiple submit buttons (no frames).  Basically it
> calls itself and it does different tasks based on the submit buttons.  In
NS
> 6.01, only one submit button works (What i mean is that other submit
buttons
> are missing (no form vars) even though they are clicked).  And after
clicking
> the working submit button and viewing the source, I see a CF error in the
> view-source screen (a form variable is missing).  But in the actual NS
screen,
> there is no error and that form variable is shown in the debug section.
>
> Anybody knows what's happening?  Thanks in advance.
>
> JL
>
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RE: Two functions with a single onClick?

[Scott, Andrew]

I would worry about using that many javascript:'s the following would do the
same thing:-)

onsubmit="javascript:MyFunction1(); MyFunction2(); MyFunction3);
MyFunction4();"





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 February 2001 10:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Two functions with a single onClick?


Haven't used this with onclick, but this works with onsubmit, so I imagine
it would be no different
onsubmit="javascript:MyFunction1();javascript:MyFunction2();javascript:MyFun
ction3();javascript:MyFunction4();"

-Original Message-
From: Les Irvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Two functions with a single onClick?


Can more than one javascript function be performed with a single 
onClick?  If so, how would it be written?
Thanks,
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RE: CFAussie Mailing ListTo ADDTOKEN or not

[Scott, Andrew]

Hi Nick,

This is what I use to stop the pages from being cached.






 



As for the cfid & cftoken, these are really only needed to be passed with
href or anything other type of page rdirection/refresh/load because of
allowing to keep a user happy when browsing with cookies switched off.


-Original Message-
From: Nick Texidor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 February 2001 11:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: CFAussie Mailing ListTo ADDTOKEN or not


Hi, 

Just wondering what the opinions were on the list regarding setting ADDTOKEN
to "YES" in a CFLOCATION call?

I've experienced problems with ISP's caching pages before, and this has been
a fix for it.  However, there are also some tags that have been sent to this
list about how to stop a page being cached.

Which is the better method?

Also, if you've developed a site and used ADDTOKEN="YES" in all the
CFLOCATION calls, have you also used the CFID and CFTOKEN parameters on all
the A HREF links??

Thanks

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RE: Two functions with a single onClick?

[Scott, Andrew]

Depending on your tag and if it is supported, I have used the 
function Test() {
 alert("Hello")
 alert("Function call #2")
 return true;
}




 




-Original Message-
From: Les Irvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 February 2001 09:58
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Two functions with a single onClick?


Can more than one javascript function be performed with a single 
onClick?  If so, how would it be written?
Thanks,
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RE: Multiple submit buttons on a form

[Scott, Andrew]

To be honest this is a fudge, and is used for input type=img... The X and Y
are co-ordinates and were introduced to allow to have one image and combine
this with an image map and your on your way to understanding this
further If you use a input type=submit the X and Y are not available to
the action page as you have suggested.


-Original Message-
From: Veena Sarda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 February 2001 15:52
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Multiple submit buttons on a form


Give the same action  file for both submit buttons. Then on that action file
chack which button caused the submit and redirect it to differesnt URLs.
You can check the button pressed as buttonname.x and buttonname.y
If these values are not equal to zero or null, you know which button was
clciked.

Veena
- Original Message -
From: Scott, Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: Multiple submit buttons on a form


> You could, but what if you needed the information from the same form but
to
> do 2 different actions as was asked:-)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joshua Tipton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 21 February 2001 15:22
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Multiple submit buttons on a form
>
>
> Put them within different forms
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Les Irvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Multiple submit buttons on a form
>
>
> How would one put multiple submit buttons on a single form, each calling a
> different page upon submit?
> Thanks,
> Les
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RE: Multiple submit buttons on a form

[Scott, Andrew]

You could, but what if you needed the information from the same form but to
do 2 different actions as was asked:-)


-Original Message-
From: Joshua Tipton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 February 2001 15:22
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple submit buttons on a form


Put them within different forms

-Original Message-
From: Les Irvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Multiple submit buttons on a form


How would one put multiple submit buttons on a single form, each calling a
different page upon submit?
Thanks,
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RE: Multiple submit buttons on a form

[Scott, Andrew]

 
 


And in your action.cfm page:-


 
  
Place code here for Save Action.
  
  
Place code here for Test Action.
  
 


If you wanted to different pages instead, just place cfincludes between the
cfcase's

Hope this helps...


-Original Message-
From: stas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 February 2001 17:43
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple submit buttons on a form


It's quite easy if you use images as submit buttons because you can do a
switch based on the name passed with the form variable.

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From: Les Irvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Multiple submit buttons on a form


How would one put multiple submit buttons on a single form, each calling a
different page upon submit?
Thanks,
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RE: Javascript VARS

[Scott, Andrew]

XML or WDDX

For more information read (Sorry can't recall the chapter as I don't have
the book in front of me) Advanced Coldfusion Application Development (is
this right) by Ben Forta.

Basically it depends on what it is you are trying to do, but with wddx/xml
you can pass packets back to the server using this method. It should give
you more of an insight into what can be achieved.




-Original Message-
From: Charlie McCormack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 February 2001 14:38
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Javascript VARS


Is there any other way.

> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Schreiber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:22 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Javascript VARS
> 
> 
> Sure. On a subsequent page - via a form variable...
> 
> > Is it possible to pass a javascript var back to CF?
> >  
> > thanks,
> >  
> > Charlie
> > 
> > 
> >
>
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RE: session variables

[Scott, Andrew]

Check that cookies is switched on:-)

Also is this a farm of computers in a load balance environment:-)

There are ways to do the same thing, without using session variables:-)


regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Application Developer


-Original Message-
From: John McCosker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 February 2001 21:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: session variables


Ok Dan!

Yes the webserver is on another Domain, but that does not explain why my own
machine can still login to the site.

I tested the session state by outputting the variable and it is defined.

On any other client the session is never defined.

Can you recommend a solution round the domain problem.

Thanks Dan.

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 February 2001 10:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: session variables


Hi John,

What it might be...

Are you switching domains on the live server using cflocation at any time?

If so, any session/application/etc variables may not be set correctly, as CF
needs to set a cookie with CFID/CFTOKEN to identify the client machine, and
cflocate prevents the cookie from being set

This would explain why your not having a problem on the development server,
as:
1/  The cookie will have already been set
2/  Both sections will be under the same domain

HTH

Dan.

-Original Message-
From: John McCosker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 February 2001 10:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: session variables


Has anyone ever experienced session variables not getting set.

I have created a login page like so,



SELECTuid, pwd
FROM  dbo.Users
WHERE (uid = '#form.uid#') and (pwd = '#form.pwd#')











 Sorry! but your login details  are
incorrect please check!




My application file is between the directories in a directory named secure,
and is like so










When I login through my own client its successfull, the session variable is
set.
If I login on the webserver it is also successful.

If I login on any other client the session never gets set.
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RE: News Feeds

[Scott, Andrew]

moreover.com

regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Application Developer

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 February 2001 02:01
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: News Feeds


Does anyone know of any ColdFusion related WDDX feeds or any web related
feeds.

Thanks,

Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager
Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
pwb inc.
integrated marketing communications
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RE: CFHTTP

[Scott, Andrew]

maybe its a case that the template is so complex that it is actually timeing
out, what do the application logs say:-)

regards

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-Original Message-
From: Martin S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 February 2001 16:32
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFHTTP


Not sure.  How to tell?

i try to ping it and get a TTL expired in transit.

However some of the pages on the site I can easily HTTP post too..but the 
one I need to I can't.

So any suggestions? does it sound liek a firewall issue??

Thanks


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>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: CFHTTP
>Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:29:19 +1100
>
>Is the remote server being connected from, sit behind a firewall:-) The 
>http
>request might be secured behind the firewall:-)
>
>regards
>
>Andrew Scott
>Senior Coldfusion Application Developer
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Martin S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 16 February 2001 09:12
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: CFHTTP
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I have written a rather complex CFHTTP method POST agent and constantly am
>receiving the Connection Failure output.  My CF file with the cfhttp tag
>resides on the local host and the page being "POST(ed)" is remote.
>
>When display the #CFHTTP.ResponseHeader# the following error is displayed :
> >Error Diagnostic Information
> >Expression result cannot be converted to a string
> >
> >Expressions used inside tags like CFOUTPUT, CFQUERY, CFMAIL, etc. > must
> >evaluate to a value that can be converted to a string for output or 
>dynamic
> >text accumulation purposes. Complex objects, such as queries, arrays, and
> >COM/DCOM objects, cannot be represented as strings.
>
> >The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier 
>of
> >(#CFHTTP.ResponseHeader#), occupying document position (26:1) to (26:23).
>
>I then made a simple CFHTTP method = get that requested a blank page on the
>local computer/local drive and directory.  I receive the SAME error.  The
>page being requested just outputs HELLO WORLD..and I still receive the
>Connection Failure error.
>
>I can't figure this out.  I have done several other CFHTTP tags before with
>no problems.
>
>Any help would be much appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
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RE: Refreshing Form page

[Scott, Andrew]

Nope, but if you use the checking within the cfapplication any open window
will also inherit the same secure information. Meaning that the session will
be kept alive even if you not touch the other window.


regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Application Developer


-Original Message-
From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 February 2001 15:50
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Refreshing Form page


Found the answer myself from an earlier discussion around AOL caching:





Enjoy
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Maia, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:32 PM
Subject: RE: Refreshing Form page


> I'd be interested in this also. Essentially, my problem is, how can I tell
> on the client side if the user's session may be expired?
>
> I have an app where on one form, there's a link that users follow to
another
> website to read some documents. Then they need to return to the form and
> enter comments on the documents they just read. If they spend too long on
> the other site, their session expires and they are forced to log back in,
> then re-enter their comments.
>
> Ideally, I'd like to force their log-in before they've entered and
submitted
> their comments. I've tried setting up a JavaScript that runs when one of
the
> form elements gets the focus, that looks for a value in
window.history.next
> and reloads the page. However, I haven't gotten it to work yet.
>
> Has anyone else run into this problem, and if so, what solutions have you
> found?
>
> Thanks - Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:42 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Refreshing Form page
>
>
> Folks:
>
> How can I refresh a form page when it is gotten to via Back browser
button?
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
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RE: CFHTTP

[Scott, Andrew]

Actually its not text, and if you look closely enough to the docs it
explains that it is returned as an array, But looking at it from a cfa_dump
point of view shows it as being a Structured Array. So if you have spectra
installed or one of the many dump tags, you can simply do:-



regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Application Developer



-Original Message-
From: Seva Petrov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 February 2001 15:56
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFHTTP


Martin,

Not sure if this is going to help with resolving the "connection failure"
problem, but you can write CFHTTP.ResponseHeader to a file with ,
then read the file to get the debugging info you need. It is text,
although for some reason CF doesn't see it as such.

Best,
Seva Petrov


On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Martin S wrote:

> When display the #CFHTTP.ResponseHeader# the following error is displayed
:
> >Error Diagnostic Information
> >Expression result cannot be converted to a string
> >
> >Expressions used inside tags like CFOUTPUT, CFQUERY, CFMAIL, etc. > must
> >evaluate to a value that can be converted to a string for output or
dynamic
> >text accumulation purposes. Complex objects, such as queries, arrays, and
> >COM/DCOM objects, cannot be represented as strings.
>
> >The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier
of
> >(#CFHTTP.ResponseHeader#), occupying document position (26:1) to (26:23).
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RE: CFHTTP

[Scott, Andrew]

Is the remote server being connected from, sit behind a firewall:-) The http
request might be secured behind the firewall:-)

regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Application Developer


-Original Message-
From: Martin S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 February 2001 09:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFHTTP


Hi,

I have written a rather complex CFHTTP method POST agent and constantly am
receiving the Connection Failure output.  My CF file with the cfhttp tag
resides on the local host and the page being "POST(ed)" is remote.

When display the #CFHTTP.ResponseHeader# the following error is displayed :
>Error Diagnostic Information
>Expression result cannot be converted to a string
>
>Expressions used inside tags like CFOUTPUT, CFQUERY, CFMAIL, etc. > must
>evaluate to a value that can be converted to a string for output or dynamic
>text accumulation purposes. Complex objects, such as queries, arrays, and
>COM/DCOM objects, cannot be represented as strings.

>The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of
>(#CFHTTP.ResponseHeader#), occupying document position (26:1) to (26:23).

I then made a simple CFHTTP method = get that requested a blank page on the
local computer/local drive and directory.  I receive the SAME error.  The
page being requested just outputs HELLO WORLD..and I still receive the
Connection Failure error.

I can't figure this out.  I have done several other CFHTTP tags before with
no problems.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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RE: how do I turn cfregistry ability back on?

[Scott, Andrew]

Yes it does, I made this mistake a few years ago...

The CF Administrator relies heavily on this tag, so be very careful. I wish
there was something in the text to say what damages it could do:-)


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-Original Message-
From: Benjamin S. Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 February 2001 12:15
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: how do I turn cfregistry ability back on?


> The ability to use CFREGISTRY has been turned off at the CF Administrator.
> How do we turn it back on, because now we can't access the CF
Administrator
> pages?

Disabling the CFREGISTRY tag should not have disabled the ColdFusion
Administrator. Do receive error messages when you try to visit the
ColdFusion Administrator, or does the page simply not appear?

Benjamin S. Rogers
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JS and Netscape...

[Scott, Andrew]

There is a property of a Table that is called display...

Under IE I can say TableID.style.display = block|none, does any of the
Netscape browsers support something similar


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-Original Message-
From: Andrea Benton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 February 2001 12:08
To: CF-Talk
Subject: how do I turn cfregistry ability back on?


The ability to use CFREGISTRY has been turned off at the CF Administrator.
How do we turn it back on, because now we can't access the CF Administrator
pages?
 
Dumb question, I know...
 
Thanks...
 
Andrea
 
P.S.  I've tried altering the setting in the registry, but that hasn't
allowed the CF Administrator to be turned back on.
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Regular Expressions

[Scott, Andrew]

Are there any documents, or resource sites on Regular Expressions under CF.
What I am looking for are what limitations are there associated with RegEx's
under CF...


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-Original Message-
From: Mak Wing Lok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 February 2001 10:23
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: as400 connection


Please, and thanks.

- Original Message -
From: Peter J. MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:17 AM
Subject: RE: as400 connection


> Yes, it could talk AS400.  There are some ODBC's out there for it.  There
is
> also an OLE DB driver that is more stable.  I could get the name of the
OLE
> DB driver if you need it I do not have it handy right now.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Peter
>
> Peter J. MacDonald II
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> 100 Middle Street
> Lincoln, RI 02865
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>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mak Wing Lok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 23:11
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: as400 connection
>
>
> hi people,
>
> did anyone know that if it is possible for CF server to "talk" to AS/400
> machine?
> advise needed, thanks
>
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RE: OT: Dave's Burning Rant, Part Deux

[Scott, Andrew]

You do have to wonder though, looking at the concept at the time it seemed
like a good idea from Microsoft's part. However the can of worms they have
opened is a little to be desired:-)


regards

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Senior Coldfusion Application Developer

-Original Message-
From: Tony Schreiber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 February 2001 09:51
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Dave's Burning Rant, Part Deux


I've loved reading this discussion, in part because the participants have
been so eloquent. But I just have to laugh because it's so irrelevant to
me personally (not professionally however) because I use PINE!

I don't have to worry about WSH, or VB or javascript in HTML mail... All
nonsense!

That said, getting attachments I do want can be a pain sometime (save to
disk, then z-modem or ftp from server) but in grief-spared, it's great. ;p

> Not meaning to start a flame war here, but do you think it is unreasonable
> to follow one simple rule?
> 1) Don't open email attachments you were not expecting.
> 
> That is it, it isn't the highway code, it isn't gun law, it is one simple
> rule and anyone who can't understand it deserves everything they get.
> 
> If you do that you wouldn't even need a virus scanner much these days.
> Except for the odd Trojan (bo and netbus to name but two) you don't see
many
> non-email related emails these days, and even those are normally self
> inflicted (and much rarer any way).
> 
> I have a virus checker on my machine, and you know how many times it has
> warned me of a virus? None, not once, in 3 years, and all because I don't
> open email attachments I wasn't expecting (and I average 4000+ emails a
> month and 24 hours a day online).
> 
> Tell you what, if you want a virus proof computer go get a BBC micro, if
you
> want functionality without popups every 3 seconds asking for security
> information then live with it, and be a smidgen more vigilant.  As I said,
> it is only one rule!
> 
> --
> James Smith
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Brainbench transcript ID: 822462
> http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=822462
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 10:02 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: Dave's Burning Rant, Part Deux
> 
> 
> > I'm sorry but James's  "Ignorance is no excuse" argument is
unimpressive.
> >
> > If I had bought an early '70's Ford Pinto, I would never have considered
> > anyone but Ford at fault for increasing the danger I faced on the
highway,
> > once I became aware of it. All the other factors would remain as
> constants.
> > People ARE stupid, lazy, careless, impatient, gullible, etc. These
traits
> > WILL always be with us, and they WILL ALWAYS result in bad events. This
is
> > life, and there's no avoiding it. Accidents CAN be avoided, yet they
still
> > DO happen.
> >
> > James and others tend to put all the responsibility for avoiding virii
off
> 
> > onto us, the end users of mail programs. If it gets into court, the
> > standard to judge liability is what's commonly referred to as the
> > "Reasonable Man" standard. What you're expecting of us is, I think,
> > unreasonable. I just don't know anyone who can remain vigilant against
> some
> > sort of attack 100% of the time.
> >
> >
> >
>
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RE: Y2K Pivot Year Question.

[Scott, Andrew]

Coldfusion, you can find this info in the CF Manuals I think. Or at least
somehwere in the online docs to studio/homesite:-)

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-Original Message-
From: Arden Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 February 2001 14:23
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Y2K Pivot Year Question.


I noticed that when you enter a date with only a two-digit year, 30 is the 
pivot date when using CFUPDATE to post valid dates back to the table in the 
database (ODBC to Visual FoxPro database).

Any year less than 30 gets posted as 19##.
Any year 30 or larger gets posted as 20##.

Is there a way to change this default pivot year to say 1950?

Is it a Cold Fusion or ODBC thing?

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RE: Statistics on Toy R Us

[Scott, Andrew]

Yes I agree that with the amount of whitespace, and being text will be sent
very quickly anyway. But the trade of that must developers don't realise is
that most of the known tricks place more work onto the server.

For example, a lot of developers started using the enablecfoutputonly option
and when used in templates that have only cfml its good and does the trick
brilliantly. But from the bad coding that I have seen in the last few years,
is that because of this method normal HTML will not be outputed. So in their
wisdom they will cfoutput these areas, but not realising that the page will
actual process slower because of all the extra work that is being passed to
the CF Service. CF doesn't parse HTML and should never be used to do so,
this is an Allaire guideline for as long as I have been developing.

And I have even had one developer try to dictate a recommeded allaire
guidline, and then ignore the most important guidline in the name of
impressing.

Anyway my 2cents worth:-)


regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer

-Original Message-
From: Jason Lees (National Express)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 31 January 2001 21:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Statistics on Toy R Us



I've got the remove whitespace setting applied on CF server and it doesn't
seem to make any difference to the size of the completed template, I still
get pages that are filled with whitespace. 

The only way I found to get rid of some, was to put CF comments in, this
reduces the Tabed indents to a single CRLF, but theres a trade off, parsing
speed against page size.  In testing I've found that it reduces pages by
upto 20% (depending on the page layout).

Jason Lees 
National Express
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-Original Message-
From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 31 January 2001 10:13
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Statistics on Toy R Us


> The point about CF is that it uses the approach of "Anything written in CF
> changes to whitespace when processed" as a default, instead of treating CF
> as a programming language and compiling etc (prepare to flame me...).
> That's what produces the whitespace.  This can of course be
> turned off, and
> can mean faster page loading.  The CFML processor is effectively only a
> parser (a fast one, but still a parser) so any other language
> that is parsed like this will produce similar output.

Just as a point on this - removing white-space only reduces the time that it
takes to send the template to the user - using CFSETTING a lot will actually
slow the server down (slightly)

It's therefore a payoff as to whether you want the pages to be built faster
or sent to the user faster - remembering that if you can turn more pages
around on the server, then you can serve more visitors - people are willing
to wait an extra second or so, but if you've got a busy site, then you've
got to weigh up which one you prefer...

You get what I mean :-/

Philip Arnold
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RE: Statistics on Toy R Us

[Scott, Andrew]

I would be very interesting to find out more, what do you mean by badly
written?

Lets look at a standard CF page compared to ASP, the same code and all it
does is produce a list of items on the screen from a loop. In ASP there was
no white space, however in CF there was whitespace.

Now if you refer to the bad techniques of a developer, then this is a good
example. Now if you refer to removing whitespace with the enablecfoutput
option, this cause more headaches than its worth.

For example, normally (with the option described above) HTML will need to
have  wrapped around it putting more load onto the CF Service. So
is it worth actually doing all these tricks do make the server grunt more to
save some bytes.

I mean 30k of text is quicker than 30k of binary any day, and the sooner
people realise this the better the world will be.


regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer


-Original Message-
From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 31 January 2001 20:27
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Statistics on Toy R Us


  > >
  > >   > Thats very interesting, because doing a view source indicates
  > >   > that they are
  > >   > using CF:-)
  > >   >
  > >   > I mean how many other scripting languages generate that much
  > > whitespace!
  > >   >
  > >
  > > Erm...
  > >
  > > Loads of languages generate that much whitespace!
  >
  > Which ones?

Perl (if badly written), PHP (if badly written), ASP (if badly written), CF
(if badly written), Mason (if badly written), and everything else under the
sun (if it's badly written).  CF, however is a bit more interesting...

The point about CF is that it uses the approach of "Anything written in CF
changes to whitespace when processed" as a default, instead of treating CF
as a programming language and compiling etc (prepare to flame me...).
That's what produces the whitespace.  This can of course be turned off, and
can mean faster page loading.  The CFML processor is effectively only a
parser (a fast one, but still a parser) so any other language that is parsed
like this will produce similar output.

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RE: Statistics on Toy R Us

[Scott, Andrew]

Thats very interesting, because doing a view source indicates that they are
using CF:-)

I mean how many other scripting languages generate that much whitespace!


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Sent: 30 January 2001 05:14
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Statistics on Toy R Us


> I thot they had about 500 servers with load balancing by ColdFusion.

HAD being the operative term - they re-wrote to something else (no idea
what), but when they were CF (XMas 1999) they had 300+ servers, not 500

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RE: Varaible Names with "-"

[Scott, Andrew]

You could do the following if you don't have control of the DB:-)


 select `field-name` as FieldName from TableName


Notice the ` which is located under the tilda(~) key this will return the
fieldname as it was written in the DB. However you can't use this with CF,
so using the as command this will rename the field to anything you want it
to be.

So you could then reference it instead of qtest.field-name, but as
qtest.FieldName instead.

Hope this helps:-)



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Sent: 18 January 2001 10:09
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Varaible Names with "-"


This probably isn't the answer you're looking for, but you should rename the
column.  That's just plain bad database design to begin with.  And there's
no need to add on another layer of unnecessary programming when all you've
gotta do is rename the field.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Troy Hiltbrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:00 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Varaible Names with "-"
> 
> 
> Is there any way to pull out the information about a query column 
> that has a
> "-" in it?  The problem is that with SQL Server 2000, when you do a "for
>  xml" select statement, the column name that is returned has "-"s in it.
> From the documentation in SQL Server 2000, I am not seeing a name 
> to rename
> that.  I am trying to pull out the xml from this query, but in order to do
> this, I need to get at the data with a column name that has a "-" 
> in it.  If
> anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.  Thanks.
> 
> 
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RE: any ideas?

[Scott, Andrew]

Wouldn't changing the mod 2 to mod 3 do the trick:-)

regards

Andrew Scott
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-Original Message-
From: Jay Patton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 January 2001 07:52
To: CF-Talk
Subject: any ideas?


does anyone know how i can make this tag output 3 colors instead of 2?

 

thanks,

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RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge

[Scott, Andrew]

Actually as incorrect as you are, you should have said that the plugin is
part of both Netscape and IE browser setups. It only becomes part of Windows
98 install because IE is bundled with Windows 98, W2K etc.

regards

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-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 January 2001 13:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge


It's part of the default Windows 98 install...

jon
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Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge


> Does Flash have this much penetration?
>
> best,  paul
>
> At 05:05 PM 1/16/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >-- Macromedia(R) Flash(TM), the rich media standard, with a 96 percent
Web
> >penetration;
>
>
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RE: Negative Thoughts

[Scott, Andrew]

The concern is valid, lets just hope that with Jeremy as CTO we can still
see the Allaire division (whatever they call this division) will still
produce the same great product that we have all loved for these years.

I think we will have to really wait and see as to what directional impact
this might start to have, especially for us developers.

regards

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Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer


-Original Message-
From: Dylan Bromby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 January 2001 13:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Negative Thoughts


macromedia has been developing OO scripting languages for some time, dating
back to director. there are also some interesting new features along these
lines in Flash 5. your concern is valid, but i wouldn't limit the
capabilities of macromedia as a "graphics tools" company. companies merge
all the time, and not always because there's trouble. anyone can come up
with lists of negatives and positives. everyone needs to make their own
decisions. this merger didn't happen overnight; wait and see what happens.

-Original Message-
From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 3:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Negative Thoughts


I do not think that the acquisition of Allaire by Macromedia is a good thing
for Cold Fusion developers. I can come up with all kinds of negative
scenarios about what this will do to CF. When a "graphics tool" company
acquires a development platform, the development platform does not always
fair too well.

Consider that, if Allaire was not in some sort of trouble, it would not have
been "merged."

I have been concerned about the viability of the CF platform for about a
year. Now, I am even more concerned. I am seriously starting to consider
dropping the beloved CF platform, and head towards ASP+, COM and .NET --
Microsoft is not likely to be "acquired" any time in the near future.

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RE: wow...

[Scott, Andrew]

Actually the concpet that happened with Netscape was long overdue, however
it just means that the market has dictated the early release of a buggy but
very good piece of software that seems to be starting to conform to HTML
standards a lot more in the DOM.

regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer

-Original Message-
From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 January 2001 13:32
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wow...


Anyone happen to recall what happened to Netscape (ver. 6) after AOL bought
Netscape (the company). I suspect that Macromedia will end up doing the same
thing to CF.

The software industry is full of similar case studies. Oh well, hope I am
wrong.

This is my last negative posting. There is no way I can compete with
unbridled enthusiasm.

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RE: Allaire and MM

[Scott, Andrew]

Nicely put Dave, the problem though is that Macromedia knows this and
hopefully its why they have done what they have done. Just that I have seen
this happen before, and to be honest the mind is boggling as to what we can
expect to see from this.

regards

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-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 January 2001 11:59
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire and MM


> double hmmmI'm not seeing a lot of mention (ie. none) in 
> the releases about the future of CFStudio under MM
> dreamweaver...ultradev...CFServer..yes.no CFStudio...altho 
> admittedly it does say they plan to "continue the current 
> Allaire product line and to invest in the Allaire product 
> roadmap"...

I wouldn't worry too much about that. Homesite, which is the core of CF
Studio, is the market leader among text-based HTML editors, and has been
bundled with Dreamweaver for some time. Macromedia knows that text-based
code editors are an essential tool for serious web development. Allaire has
sunk a lot of effort and resources recently in editors/compilers for Java
development, such as JRun Studio and Kawa. My bet is that those aren't going
away any time soon.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge

[Scott, Andrew]

Name a succesful competitor to flash:-)

regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 January 2001 11:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Macromedia and Allaire to Merge


Does Flash have this much penetration?

best,  paul

At 05:05 PM 1/16/01 -0500, you wrote:
>-- Macromedia(R) Flash(TM), the rich media standard, with a 96 percent Web
>penetration;
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RE: NEWS: Allaire and Macromedia to Merge

[Scott, Andrew]

The best thing I see right now, from a development point of view.

What happens to Studio & Homesite, would these wonderful applications get
swollowed up by the UltraDev or would it become more interactive with it.
But from a coding point of view, the integration of the products would mean
a very heavy competitor to Microsoft and their .net product.


regards

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-Original Message-
From: Evan Lavidor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 January 2001 09:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: NEWS: Allaire and Macromedia to Merge


http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010116/ca_macrome_3.html

I guess we know why ALLR was on the rise recently...  Who knows what this
means for things like UltraDev, Generator, etc.

Evan

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RE: OT RE: (Admin) Vacations and being banned

[Scott, Andrew]

Until someone pulls the plug on your computer, then no power no responder!

regards

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-Original Message-
From: Aaron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 January 2001 06:43
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT RE: (Admin) Vacations and being banned


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Cameron,

While this thread has demonstrated why autoresponders should remain
on the server side, Outlook does have the capability to be an
autoresponder.  For example, if I go on vacation I can leave my
computer on, have my mail client pop the server every couple hours,
and send an autoreply to all OR using advanced filtering, just some
of those people who send an email.  I'm guesstimating that most
people are setting up their mail client to auto respond but aren't
filtering.

Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I
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MINDSEYE, Inc.
617.350.0339
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RE: OT: Vacations and being banned

[Scott, Andrew]

Can I throw my 2 cents worth into this:-)

We all should be more careful, I am going to bet my bottom dollar that those
who don't see a problem that Michael has tried to point out are either nieve
of the overall problem or just don't understand the web in its glory. Or
they are also the ones that will complain to who ever will listen that the
web is so slow!!!

Well guess what as Michael pointed out, it no only effects the mailing list
because this amount of emails if not caught in time can cripple servers by
overloading them. Now as Michael also pointed out, there was one that was in
an infinite loop. Which means its duplicating email and if not caught will
just keep growing... Not only in the amount of emails that are being sent
but this amount of traffic hogs the bandwidth for not only this system but
starts to effect other systems around the world with unneccesary traffic...

Give Michael a break he has delivered a list, that could become something
big if people took the time to be more considerate to others around. And
what Michael is asking is part of Netiquette:-)


regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer


-Original Message-
From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 January 2001 02:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Vacations and being banned


I'm sorry, but I really don't understand why this is such a big issue.
Fine, someone accidentally sent 200 messages, but it happens.  It's hard to
understand why hitting delete is such a difficult task.  It's nice Michael
that you host all of these CF lists and I really do appreciate it, but I
just don't understand why you seem SO angry.

--=@ greg @=--
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: Vacations and being banned


> 2 cases in point. Someone on the JRun talk list (and only that list) had
> over 200 vacation posts before he was removed. Someone on the CF-Talk list
> (and only this list) had over 20 and he was caught early. Both of these
> cases had two major things in common, the sender was using a
'non-standard'
> subject to announce their vacation AND they were setting their email in a
> loop. A post to the list was then sent back to them which resulted in a
post
> to the list which was sent back to them...
> If I didn't catch it early, we'd have 200 posts on the list in no time and
> then I'd be hearing it from everyone.
> Every time this happens, I post a reminder for people to remove themselves
> when they go on vacation. Every reminder is preceded by the (Admin) header
> that should say that the post is important. Some people just don't listen.
> I did write a filter for the entire list and post (again) about vacation
> messages but I can't catch everything. On the other hand, due to all these
> vacation messages getting to the list the filter is getting better.
Problem
> is, it may miss some messages or block those that are not vacation posts.
> Maybe a moderation system for 'suspect' posts would be needed. Something
new
> to put in. :)
>
>
> > Michael,
> >
> > Maybe I'm in the minority, but I just don't see why people get so angry
> > about vacation messages. I think it's an honest mistake, and when you're
> > subscribed to a dozen lists and looking forward to leaving town I'm sure
> > it's easy to forget to change your settings.
> >
> > I'm sure of one thing: in the amount of time it takes for people to
> complain
> > and call people stupid, the complainers could easily write a filter to
> > delete vacation messages from their inbox.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Marc Garrett
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 8:43 AM
> > Subject: (Admin) Vacations and being banned
> >
> >
> > > I really hate being a bad guy.
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Adding and removing dates. Y21K compliant?

[Scott, Andrew]

Would it not be easier, to hold the images in a seperate directory. Then
using the cfdirectory to build an array of images for your use. I
did something similar for a slide show on another project many years ago

http://www.wildthing.iaccess.com.au/slideshow.html

regards

Andrew Scott
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-Original Message-
From: Barry Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 January 2001 07:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Adding and removing dates. Y21K compliant?


That's awesome Ray. I had tried the DATEADD, since I felt it was more
elegant, but I used the PARSEDATE and just added or removed the TIMESPAN. 

I have included your code, but the only caveat I have is I still need to
have the dates formatted in "YY-MM-DD" since that is how I have named the
images and that is how they are called.

00-10-18Oct. 18, 2000
00-10-19Oct. 19, 2000
00-10-20Oct. 20, 2000
00-10-21Oct. 21, 2000
etc.

The DATEADD you wrote works great and I was able to streamline my code, but
the error still shows up for any dates above Jan. 1, 2001.

Jan 2 and Jan 3 give me odd output. It almost seems as if the DATEFORMAT on
the NEXTTOON and LASTTOON is being ignored. But the code seems to work for
all other dates.

Barry T. Smith
GlobalSight Webmaster
http://www.globalsight.com


-Original Message-
From: rayt@qsystems [mailto:rayt@qsystems]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Adding and removing dates. Y21K compliant?



New message has been posted in ColdFusion Support Conference

Forum:   Advanced Techniques
Thread:  Adding and removing dates. Y21K compliant?
Author:  Ray Thompson
Subject: Your Problem

URL: http://forums.allaire.com/DevConf/Index.cfm?Message_ID=634464


Your problem is in the format of your date. You are using DD-MM-YY which,
when processed by the ParseDateTime() function views the date a MM-DD-YY.
You also should use DateAdd() rather than adding a number, such as a
TimeSpan to a date. I changed the date format in the code and simplified the
code. It now produces the correct date.


* Accompanied HTML Code *



  



  






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ODBC Date/time with Javascript

[Scott, Andrew]

Can anyone point me to some resources or even tell me what functions are
available to JS with regards to ODBC datetime values Is it possible to
convert using JS to a normal date/time string.

What I am looking at doing is using JS to compare that a cookie has expired,
by doing a compare on the 2 dates. So if anyone has done this or has a
resource site that I can visit that would be great, thanks.

regards

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Creating Arrays Dynamically

[Scott, Andrew]

I am hoping that someone out there can help me out, a few months ago I wrote
a routine to dynamically create an Array on the fly without knowing the
number of elements or the number of dimensions

Anyway I am sure that the following code was the way I did it, however its
not. Can anyone else out there shed some light on triggering my memory in
what I should have done.











Is the same as if I had the following code:-









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Creating Arrays Dynamically

[Scott, Andrew]

I am hoping that someone out there can help me out, a few months ago I wrote
a routine to dynamically create an Array on the fly without knowing the
number of elements or the number of dimensions

Anyway I am sure that the following code was the way I did it, however its
not. Can anyone else out there shed some light on triggering my memory in
what I should have done.











Is the same as if I had the following code:-









regards

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ANZ eCommerce Centre
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RE: Repopulating combo ( or select) boxes

[Scott, Andrew]

Why not pass the name of the state instead of a number, it will also depend
on what your doing on the action page as well.

regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer

-Original Message-
From: Brian Ivey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 December 2000 07:48
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Repopulating combo ( or select) boxes


Dear List,

I am working on a form where a user can modify their account information.
This information contains their state, country, etc. You know the standard
stuff. If the user was from South Carolina, I only save SC or some number
representing South Carolina.

Now here is my question. If I have a something like:


South Carolina
Georgia
...
some name


and I am only saving 1 for South Carolina, 2 for Georgia, etc. Is there an
easy way to repopulate this data. So when I go to reload the record and I
have a 1 for state. How do I easily/painlessly translate the 1 to South
Carolina. The only solution I can think of takes about a million lines of
code and seems very clunky. I would greatly appreciate any advice. BTW, I
have looked at CFINPUT and have not yet seen how I could make it do this for
me.

Thanks in advance,
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RE: outlook

[Scott, Andrew]

Not to mention that there is an option to notification off!!!

regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer



-Original Message-
From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 December 2000 23:26
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: outlook


> Sorry about the OT question, but was wondering if anyone knows a
> way to make
> all messages I recieve from this list get marked as read automatically?  I
> just am not wanting my email notification going off every 10 minutes but
> still want it to alert me when other mail arrives.  I am using
> Outlook 2000.

Why not just move the CF-Talk messages to another folder?

Create a Folder,
Move a message into that folder,
Click "Organize", change the first option to "sent to" and click Create

It'll now automatically shift all CF-Talk messages to your CF-Talk folder,
that way you can see all other messages in your InBox

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> -Original Message-
> From: Bernd VanSkiver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 12 December 2000 04:59
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT: outlook
>
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RE: OT: Mac images won't open on a PC

[Scott, Andrew]

Actually not true at all.

There is special software that a PC owner can buy, when I was doing Graphic
Design we had macs at the institute and I had a PC at home. I bought
MacOpener that allowed me to bring home removables etc., in mac format and
read them on the PC.

The problem is that sometimes the mac saves information into the fork, and
unless you have special software to get the information out of this your
best to format the media as PC and then use on the pc


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-Original Message-
From: Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 December 2000 04:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Mac images won't open on a PC


At 12:00 PM 12/11/00 -0500, you wrote:
>This is so off topic, but I've failed everywhere else on this one!
>
>I'm working with a designer who gave me images as .gif files. Many of them
>won't open with anything on my PC. It's not a file naming thing, just won't
>open?? Photoshop won't open them, browser can't view them.
>
>I've worked with lots of other Mac users w/ no problems.
>
>Any idea on what's going on here??

If you are trying to open them from a disk, it's because Windows doesn't 
read Mac disk format. The disk has to be formatted for Windows, which Macs 
can do. If the disk is formatted for Mac, you will never be able to open 
those images. I take it you don't have a Mac around to open the files with, 
so you might have to send the disk back and have them reformat it for
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RE: List w/" " delims

[Scott, Andrew]

I always use a character that is very less likely to be typed in by the user
or in any normal text string like the carrot sign for example (^) Then
all you need to do then is do what you need and replace the (^) with (,)...

regards

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-Original Message-
From: Eric Fickes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 December 2000 15:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: List w/" " delims


Got a List question for you.

I've got a text file that I need to parse and it's " delimited list, in a
way.  The list format is this.

"Full Name" "Email Address" "Group List" "Login Name"
"Demo user for startup" "" " 1;" "Demo" 

I was hoping to somehow use " " as a delimeter, but that's not working.
When I do that it takes out the spaces in the column names. I'd like to take

"Full Name" "Email Address" "Group List" "Login Name"

and turn it into

Full Name,Email Address,Group List,Login Name

Any ideas?

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RE: Big companies using CF

[Scott, Andrew]

Its not only portability, but scalability and RAD and yes the RAD is very
impresive when you know what your doing. A structure of a site, can be
completed in next to no time with CF. Not to mention that the ability to
create matching open and close custom tags creates the ability to do so much
more with the generated content than even ASP can't do. CF might not
have the ability to create custom functions yet, but it makes up with the
above mentioned on tags. the customtag LessWhiteSPace is a good example, or
Ben's DHTMLMenu is another example.

regards

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Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer

-Original Message-
From: Cold Fusion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 December 2000 16:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Fw: Big companies using CF



Just to add to Paul's comments..one advantage that CF "currently" has
over ASP is portability to other OS's.   That can be a big one for a lot of
companies.

> - Original Message -
> From: Paul Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 5:02 PM
> Subject: RE: Big companies using CF
>
>
> > 
> > >You did say "new IT Director". My suggestion is to learn to "LOVE" ASP
or
> > >find a new job.
> > >Pointing out to your new boss the errors in his thinking will will be
> about
> > >as logical as the current presidential political arguments.
> > >:o))
> > >Jeff Craig
> > 
> >
> > Depends if he's bound and determined to use ASP, or he's open to new
> ideas.
> > If you can talk to the new guy about CF, you can find better arguments
> than
> > "whatever.com uses CF".  The rapid deployment and easy learning curve of
> CF
> > is its strongest point, IMHO.  I've worked with other big players, in
> > general we add new features and integrations much more quickly than
other
> > sites do.  A large part of that is that it is simple to change things in
> CF,
> > easy to read other people's code, easy to find help if you get stuck.
> > Fusebox makes it even easier.
> >
> > ~Paul
> >
> > Paul Huber
> >
> > Web Applications Developer
> > http://www.eBags.com
> >
> > What's your bag?
> >
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RE: a bbs in cf

[Scott, Andrew]

You can return the index position of the period, then using the mid function
you can then capture from that point to the end of the string. From here if
you know that the length of the info you want to capture is always going to
be 2 digits the nyou can do a case statement to then get each one depending
on the length after the period.

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-Original Message-
From: Jordie Fike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 December 2000 03:23
To: CF-Talk
Subject: a bbs in cf


first a thank you to those that helped me with my "dates in a sql 
statement" problem .. it has taken me close to fruition on my current pet 
project .. but now I've run into another road block

My Immediate Problem:
can anyone point me in the proper direction so that I might be able to 
learn what specific functions that are available in CF to read the contents 
of strings/variables? What I need to accomplish is to take something of the 
form

1234.010203

and be able to break it up into

is_there_a_period = 1
var_1 = 1234
var_2 = 01
var_3 = 02
var_4 = 03

when I won't know the length of what's before or after the period. i.e. 
they might be of the form

12
or
1234
or
1234.01
or
1234.0102
etc.

I know I can find the presence of the period with



but I don't know how to find out how many characters there are to the right 
or left of the period if it does exist, and what the value of these 
individual characters on either side of the period are.

What I'm Up To:
A while back I implemented a BBoard written in Tcl on 
OuterBanksBeachGuide.com - it was written by Phillip Greenspun of MIT. It 
has served us well through it's 4 year life span, but lately I've had 
clients asking for something similar on their sites. The problem with 
continuing to use Phillip's board is that it requires an AOLServer backed 
hosting solution and they don't come cheap. So I went looking for something 
written in CF at a comparable price (did I mention that Phillip's app is 
open source) but wasn't able to find much .. so then I get the bright idea 
to try and port Phillip's board from Tcl to CF. I checked with Phillip to 
make sure he was OK with this idea and he assured me that he is. Although 
it is my hope to get this functional on my own .. I would like to turn this 
into an open source project of it's own.

If this is something that you feel you would like to be involved in or if 
you would like a copy once I get it working please feel free to email me 
direct .. just so long as you are charging for your time installing the 
application and not selling the app itself. If anyone knows that I am 
reinventing the wheel and that something like this is already available, if 
you would kindly email me a quick note to point me in the right direction I 
would greatly appreciate it.

Jordie Fike
Tech Admin
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RE: (Admin) The evil one talks

[Scott, Andrew]

I would like to say that although a moderated list, would seem to make life
easier for the list for off topic discussions. There is a slight problem,
many times I have posted to a message that was posted to find that 100's of
other emails get thrown in before my in posted into the list.

I just think that with a moderated list some people might get blamed for
continuing the thread, when in fact the message might have been posted prior
to the command to drop the discussion.

Unless you have already thought of this Michael.


regards

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 December 2000 05:38
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (Admin) The evil one talks


I'd like to avoid having a moderated list as much as possible. I'll give you
my criteria for banning a thread:
1. It is totally OT AND is detrimental to the community (the gore thread
started people fighting.)
2. I ask that the thread stop and it continues (I asked in the morning for
it to stop and at least 10 additional posts went on)
I know that these sound like simple criteria, but the amount of threads that
fall into it over the years has been less than a dozen or so. I'm holding
moderation of a thread off as an 'ultimate weapon' to only be used in the
most extreme of circumstances.
To be blunt, I'm here to safeguard the community, not play babysitter. I
think we're all adults here.


> Ok, my 2 cents on this one, humor me Michael please :-) in short I think
> that if this will turn into a moderated list (as you appear to do, this
> should probably be the policy for OT posts:
>
> "Any posting that has absolutely no interest to the specific Cold Fusion
> community at large has the right to be edited, censored, or outright
refused
> by the administrator."
>
> For instance:
>
> Off topic: "I have a JavaScript question": Should be tolerated (CF people
> use JavaScript, HTML, and *gulp* ASP all the time + other web languages)
>
> Off topic: "Cold Fusion Christmas party or CFUG meeting" should be
tolerated
> even if it belongs in cf-community (we are human and we like to have fun,
> meeting other CF users is ok)
>
> Off topic: "Aliens have landed!" being just about that: NOT tolerated
>
> Off topic posts, have various degrees of tolerability if you will.  Even
> though some might be more sensitive than others, they are all important to
> the community at large.  This needs to be respected IMHO.
>
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world
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RE: Problem Matching Dates

[Scott, Andrew]

Here is a question that I can't recall how I fixed!

Going from a normal non secured page to a secured page, I think I fixed it
by using an application.cfm within the secured directory structure with a
cfinclude to include the application.cfm from the applications root
directory. Now what I am asking is it enough to have this or would the cfid
& cftoken be enough to keep all application, session, client variables...

Any comments people!

regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer


-Original Message-
From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 December 2000 08:38
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Problem Matching Dates


be sure to do all date inserts and comparisons with a variable that you've
performed CreateODBCDate() or CreateODBCDateTime() on.  That's frequently
the root of date problems when dealing with databases.  That's where I'd
start.  Are you getting any error message, or is the code just not producing
the result you thought it would?

~Simon

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-Original Message-
From: Chris Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 2:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Problem Matching Dates


Hey everyone.  I am working with sql server, and I am trying to match a date
to update a record.  Here is what I have:


UPDATE  dbo.tbl_EP_EventDateTime
SET EventDateStartTime = #local.startTime#,
EventDateEndTime =
#local.endTime#, EventScheduleNotes = '#Trim(form.dateNotes)#'
WHERE   EventID = #Trim(form.ID)#
AND DatePart(DD, EventDate) = DatePart(DD,
#Trim(form.Date)#)
AND DatePart(MM, EventDate) = DatePart(MM,
#Trim(form.Date)#)


I also tried:


UPDATE  dbo.tbl_EP_EventDateTime
SET EventDateStartTime = #local.startTime#,
EventDateEndTime =
#local.endTime#, EventScheduleNotes = '#Trim(form.dateNotes)#'
WHERE   EventID = #Trim(form.ID)#
AND EventDate = #Trim(form.Date)#

The problem is that it won't match any records.  I know the record is in the
database, because I checked to make sure.  Any ideas why this doesn't work?
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RE: Application.cfm

[Scott, Andrew]

Or better still why not 



and reference it with the Attributes scope. This way it becomes a
resusable piece of code that might be useful for other sites without much
modification.

regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer



-Original Message-
From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 December 2000 07:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Application.cfm


At 13:19 12/4/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Would application variables be available to a module (i.e. a template
called
>by CFModule) ?  And if they are how far up the tree will CF look for the
>application.cfm file?
>
>My problem is I set a variable called datasource equal to my DSN name.  I
>attempt to reference #datasource# and even #application.datasource# in my
>module and it isn't available.
>
>Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>Neil

I think you can use request.datasource and access it from any page,
module, include or custom tag.

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RE: ListContains wierdness - why?

[Scott, Andrew]

Agreed!  it does cause a bit of confusion!

regards

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-Original Message-
From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 December 2000 13:36
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ListContains wierdness - why?


It's not a bug.  If it worked the same as ListFind() what would be the point
of the function?  I honestly can't think of a good use for the
ListContains() function, but that's another matter.  It certainly seems to
cause more confusion than anything.

Jim


- Original Message -----
From: "Scott, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 6:43 PM
Subject: RE: ListContains wierdness - why?


> Yes I agree with that, and my response would be that the list element is
> seperated by the delimiter hence returning the wrong value! And the
> documentation even clearly states, "String being sought in elements of
> list." And in this example 10 is an element where as 1 is not an element
in
> this example
>
>
> regards
>
> Andrew Scott
> Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer
>
> -Original Message-
> From: BORKMAN Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 04 December 2000 12:06
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: ListContains wierdness - why?
>
>
> No, this isn't a bug.
>
> According to the documentation, ListContains returns the index of the
first
> list element THAT CONTAINS THE SPECIFIED SUBSTRING.
>
> Your code returns true because the substring "1" is contained in the list
> element "10".
>
> So it doesn't really do what you were thinking.
>
> Lee (Bjork) Borkman
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 11:24 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: ListContains wierdness - why?
>
>
> Hmmm, I think you found a bug!
>
> regards
>
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Park, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 01 December 2000 06:47
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: ListContains wierdness - why?
>
>
> Why does the following always return TRUE?
>
> 
> 
> TRUE
> 
> FALSE
> 
>
> Do I need to put the values into an array?
>
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RE: ListContains wierdness - why?

[Scott, Andrew]

Yes I agree with that, and my response would be that the list element is
seperated by the delimiter hence returning the wrong value! And the
documentation even clearly states, "String being sought in elements of
list." And in this example 10 is an element where as 1 is not an element in
this example


regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer

-Original Message-
From: BORKMAN Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 December 2000 12:06
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: ListContains wierdness - why?


No, this isn't a bug.

According to the documentation, ListContains returns the index of the first
list element THAT CONTAINS THE SPECIFIED SUBSTRING.

Your code returns true because the substring "1" is contained in the list
element "10".

So it doesn't really do what you were thinking.

Lee (Bjork) Borkman
http://bjork.net ColdFusion Tags by Bjork


-Original Message-
From: Scott, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 11:24 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: ListContains wierdness - why?


Hmmm, I think you found a bug!

regards

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-Original Message-
From: Park, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 December 2000 06:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ListContains wierdness - why?


Why does the following always return TRUE?



TRUE

FALSE


Do I need to put the values into an array?

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RE: ListContains wierdness - why?

[Scott, Andrew]

Hmmm, I think you found a bug!

regards

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-Original Message-
From: Park, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 December 2000 06:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ListContains wierdness - why?


Why does the following always return TRUE?



TRUE

FALSE


Do I need to put the values into an array?

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RE: which is faster?

[Scott, Andrew]

It would depend on your requirements, for example setting the application
variable means that it now becomes a global variable. However when you come
to use the date, depending on when you set the variable it will hold the
incorrect time stamp. Unless this is not a problem for you.

My solution would be if this function isn't that fussed if the time stamp is
out by a few seconds or however long it takes to run. You could set the
variable once at the beginnning of the function and reference this variable
where you need to instead of calling the now function everytime.


regards

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-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 November 2000 18:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: which is faster?


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a calendar app that calls the now() function many times =
throughtout and format it differently using the day(), month() and so on =
functions. I got a thought that it may be faster just to set the now() =
value to a variable in the application.cfm so I dont have to =
contininually call that function.=20

Would this show any speed increase?

jon
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RE: Application.cfm inheritence

[Scott, Andrew]

Yes provided they belong to the same directory structure for this
application. For example, if I have application.cfm in the application root
directory, then later I call a file that was in another directory as
/includes then it will say it can't find it, move up a directory until it
can't reach pass the application web root.

However if the application has to change servers, then it would need new
Application.cfm and I am not sure if crossing between non-SSL and SSL urls
is the same or not never really checked as I always include the parent
application.cfm along the way


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-Original Message-
From: Michael She [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 November 2000 12:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Application.cfm inheritence


Hello,


Will a "child" application.cfm inherit variables, settings, etc from the 
parent application.cfm?

For example:


+Root Dir
|application.cfm
+---Some Subdir
|   applicaiton.cfm(2)


will application.cfm(2) be able to get the settings from application.cfm?
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RE: Cookie Monster

[Scott, Andrew]

I am assuming that you are setting the CFID & CFToken with the passed values
on the url? If not then this is your problem!

regards

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 November 2000 14:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cookie Monster


Hello Fellow Lister!

I have an application that maintains state by passing CFID/CFTOKEN in the 
URL from one page request to another (no cookies).  It works fine with CFAS 
4.5.1.  A typical URL looks like the following:

http://www.MyApp.com/INDEX.CFM/IN.235/CD.401/CN.46089116.htm

where CFID is 401 and CFTOKEN is 46089116

With CFAS 4.0.1 however, it works fine only if the browser is set not to 
accept cookies (even though I don't try to set them).

With CF 4.0.1, if the browser is set to accept cookies, my application 
throws an error AND IE 4 sp1 (but not Netscape) sets a cookie, even though 
app_globals.cfm contains the following:

<
CFAPPLICATION CLIENTMANAGEMENT="Yes"
SESSIONMANAGEMENT="Yes"
SETCLIENTCOOKIES="No"
NAME="SmarterYP"
CLIENTSTORAGE="CVR_TEG"
 >

Anyone know what's going on here?

I'm about to give up on CFID/CFTOKEN and generate my own parameters.

best,  paul

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RE: CFLOCK and Custom Tags

[Scott, Andrew]

I will only say that from my experience if a developer creates a cfx_ custom
tag and forgets to make it thread safe then they deserve to be burnt by
crashing the server!!! It makes common sense to make a dll in a shared
environment as thread safe, does it not!!! But I guess this warning should
include that if your not sure, then wrap locks around the cfx!

regards

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-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 November 2000 05:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFLOCK and Custom Tags


>   I was flipping through the documentation, and it mentions
> that CFLOCKs should be used around CFX custom tags.  But it
> doesn't say anything about CFML custom tags.
>
>   Does anyone have any thoughts, opinions, observations, or
> real world experiences to share on this topic?  I would
> imagine that the threading issues surrounding CFX tags do
> not pertain to CFML tags.  But, feedback is welcome.

The docs suggest placing CFLOCK around CFX tags strictly for threading
issues.  Many CFX tags are not thread safe internally (I think Forta's
CFX_Spell is the favorite tag to pick on here) and have the potential to
crash or hang your server if not properly locked.  As a side note, our
company always locks CFX tags using the CFX_tagname as the lock name.
Assuming all apps on the server follow this same rule, this ensures that
it's locked and safe across multiple applications.

Locking CFML tags should not be needed.  If your CFML tag uses application,
server, or session variables internally, I would suggest locking them within
the tag.  You should always be looking to reduce the amount of locked
runtime to an absolute minimum.

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RE: Caching Queries......

[Scott, Andrew]

I am a little confused on this, this is something I haven't dealt with
much... So forgive me if I don't understand.

Anyway I have done the following as a test.


 
  select * from bp_modules
 


 
  select * from bp_modules
 


The intersting thing is that, sometimes the second query returns the time it
should have executed other times it returns 0ms like you would expect a
cache to return This to me appears that either the logic of how it works
is wrong in what I think it does, or that there is a bug in the query
caching. 



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-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 November 2000 05:51
To: CF-Talk
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Caching Queries..


> > You can update cached queries by rerunning the query with a
> > CACHEDWITHIN or CACHEDAFTER attribute which would cause the 
> > query to expire immediately from the cache, then rerunning 
> > the query again with the desired cache time length.
> 
> Does this mean that on a specific page, if my query has
> CACHEDWITHIN="#CreateTimeSpan(0,0,30,0)#" that it'd re-create 
> the cache every time?
> 
> I thought that it'd only re-create the cache if the time has 
> expired... or am I getting things wrong...

I probably didn't state it clearly enough, that's all.

Let's say, on the home page of your application, you have a query which you
want to cache:


SELECT N.News_ID,
 N.News_Title
FROM News N


Let's also say that you want to build an administrative interface that will
update the database, and clear the cached query. On your admin page, you
might have something like this:


INSERT INTO News ...

...

SELECT N.News_ID,
 N.News_Title
FROM News N


Note the changed value for CACHEDWITHIN; this will delete the query from the
cache.

Then, the next time someone runs the home page, the query will reexecute and
will be recached. Or, if you wanted to avoid having that first user
inconvenienced, you could rerun the query yourself in the admin page with
the desired cache length.

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RE: A CF limitation in building a spider?

[Scott, Andrew]

Hmmm, spider logic is always changing... However, if you were to return a
page like thus you would be doing logic on it for href's and the like to
then pull up other links to go to

Why couldn't you just add another condition to then see if the page is being
refresh with any of the known methods!!!


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-Original Message-
From: Michael Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 November 2000 17:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: A CF limitation in building a spider?


Ive noticed one huge limitation that makes CF not a great choice in building

a spider. CFHTTP doesnt like the use of URL pointers to another domain, like

http://www.thisdomain.com redirects to http://www.thisotherdomain.com... In 
testing whether a domain is valid or not, an url pointer will be counted as 
a *Dead* Link. CFHTTP will fail for the simple fact that it didnt find a 
site, even if there really is one. The problem also has nothing to do with 
timing out either.

Timing out is also an issue to be concerned with. It seems some sites just 
wont comply with CFHTTP. To bring another matter to attention, have you ever

seen a page when using RESOLVEURL="yes" that came back with all the links 
intact??? I cant say I have.

Those are just a couple issues ive had to deal with that I thought you might

want to consider before hand. Good Luck.

Sincerely,
Mike

>From: James Sleeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: A CF limitation in building a spider?
>Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:06:21 +1300
>
>---Reply to mail from Phill Gibson about A CF limitation in building a 
>spider?
>
> > Does anyone know of a better way to do the recursive call to cfhttp? 
>Anyway
> > I see it, you are still calling one page, and it eventually times out.
>
>Others have pointed out that CF is not a great tool for the task, but I'll
>point out a way that it could be done.  Using CFSCHEDULE you could
>schedule URL's to be explored something like this...
>
> explore.cfm takes URL to explore 
>(http://my.server/explore.cfm?URL=...")
> grabs URL (CFHTTP)
> indexes URL
> pulls out URL's in URL
> schedules explore.cfm to run with each URL collected (CFSCHEDULE)
> finished
>
>Not only is it not directly recursive and won't likely time out (each 
>request only
>grabs and indexes one URL), but it would concievably (depending on your
>scheduling algorithm) explore in URLS in parallel.  You would need to be
>careful with the scheduling algorithm though so as not to bomb your server
>with too many simultaneous scheduled tasks.
>
>
>---
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RE: Extra: Dave Watts endorses Fusebox!

[Scott, Andrew]

Its not that funny really... Although I don't program in fusebox
methodology, I do program in a concept similar and like the advantages it
has over standard development any day From what I have seen it not only
cuts the time of developing, but from a maintenance and debuggin issue its
perfect for getting these sorted out quickly as well So why not
advertise it!

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-Original Message-
From: David Shadovitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 November 2000 16:07
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Extra: Dave Watts endorses Fusebox!


Anyone else find it amusing that Dave Watts' signature includes a Fusebox
ad?  Here's a sample:

   Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
   http://www.figleaf.com/
   voice: (202) 797-5496
   fax: (202) 797-5444
   ~~~
   Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at
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(Please don't write to explain that it's not within his control.)  
-David

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RE: ODBC error

[Scott, Andrew]

What about username and password permissions on the database tables
themselves, or in the datasource as possible places to look.

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From: thanh nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 November 2000 07:04
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ODBC error


if anyone knows why this happened so strange, I checked everything seems to 
work fine, i can log in (using database table) the page, some how when i run

query it gives errors,  I verify the datasource in the cold fusion 
administration it looked OK
Please help


ODBC Error Code = 08001 (Unable to connect to data source)


[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][TCP/IP Sockets]General network error. 
Check your network documentation.



The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of 
(CFQUERY), occupying document position (31:1) to (31:71).


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RE: Web server for Win2kP?

[Scott, Andrew]

You will need to go to control panel, select add/remove programs and then
select the IIS components.

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From: Todd Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 November 2000 06:09
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Web server for Win2kP?


OK .. I'm probably going to look like a total moron here, but I have been
playing around with Win2k Professional and decided to load up CF Server on
it.  1 problem .. no web server.  I tried downloading the Personal Web
Server and IIS 4.0, but Win2k told me I couldn't use either of them because
they were only for '4.0' versions of Windows.  Fine, so what am I supposed
to use?  I looked all over the place and couldn't find any other version of
IIS or PWS to download.  I would keep looking and not bother the list with
this, but I don't have time to waste on this if it is going to be such a
huge hassel.

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RE: Studio - left panel missing

[Scott, Andrew]

A few things could have happened

1) The window resources undocked, which means if you resize Studio you will
see these windows more clearly.

2) For some reason unknown (or even if it has been fixed) that the windows
seemed to get undocked and disappear behind the other tabs on the window.
The only way to find them is by moving these tabs around.


Both are known bugs and bug 2 was supposed to have been looked at and fixed,
but I haven't seen this happen since 4.0. But thats not to say that it is
still around.


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-Original Message-
From: W Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 November 2000 05:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Studio - left panel missing


Hi,

For some bizarre reason the left panel, with directory structure and Docs,
in CF Studio has vanished.  The same happened in Homesite a month ago, and
I'm still none the wiser as to how to get it back.

I've looked everywhere (obviously not hard enough) - anyone advise?

Thanks

Will



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RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

[Scott, Andrew]

Actually Mike,

 I would consider Web Design easy, because it actually is. However its when
you wish to start to do application development that it becomes harder.


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-Original Message-
From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 November 2000 16:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH


Well I for one am thankful that it's not a piece of cake to develop
reliable websites.

If it was easy, there'd be a FrontPage that works fine, and we'd be
besieged with 13 year old school kids taking business from us here highly
qualified professionals.

Whenever I'm sitting fretting over something tricky that isn't working
after 3 hours of working on it, I'm reminded of a sage word of wisdom my
father told me ... "No one pays big money for something any fool could
do!"

Nope.  It takes a special kind of fool to do this web site stuff.

Cheers,
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Web Development
http://www.afp.zip.com.au



On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Scott, Andrew wrote:

> *lol* Well we can all wish/hope for miracles!
> 
> regards
> 
> Andrew Scott
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH
> 
> 
> Does any of this really matter? All that they should care about is if
there
> browser conforms the W3C specifications so I can count on things to work
how
> they are suppose to. Not how they are suppose to according to Microsoft or
> Netscape or any other browser. I thought that's what the whole point of
the
> W3C. I just always thought Microsoft did a better job at conforming to
these
> standards then Netscape.
> 
> Rick
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond K. Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:28 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH
> 
> 
> IE is based off of Mozilla? Did I wake up on another planet today? As far
as
> I know, thats _defintely_ not the case.
> (Although I prefer IE over Netscape as you do.)
> 
> ===
> Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Allaire
> 
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> 
> "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> 
> 
> > I also hate to tell you that IE and Netscape are based off of the open
> > source Mozilla project which Opera has followed closely with.
> > Just because
> > it's Microsoft doesn't mean you have to hate it.
> 
>

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RE: 2 instances of Studio

[Scott, Andrew]

The best way to take advantage of your dual monitor setup is develop like I
do... Monitor one holds the coding, which is right in front of me. Monitor
two, shows the browser which is just to the right of me. This I find saves
me more time than having two copies of studio running.

regards

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Sent: 16 November 2000 01:10
To: CF-Talk
Subject: 2 instances of Studio


Hello,

Does anybody know how I can I have two CF Studio Windows open at the same
time? I'd love to take advantage of my duel monitor setup. Thanks!



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RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

[Scott, Andrew]

*g* Can't argue with this logic and I agree for the same reasons I left MS
for Netscape during the V3.0 days and later returned back to IE in the V4.0
days and have never switched back. With what I also hear from peoples
comments I don't think its worth it... Although I did check out geko (is
this right) in the earlier days but wasn't impressed at all.


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-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 November 2000 13:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH


I for one could not find anything positive to say about Netscape 6. It never
once blew me away. I have basic Javascript in my browser that works
completely fine in Netscape 4.7. Now Netscape 6 comes out and it doesn't
work, what is up with that. I already code enough to do 2 browsers now I
have to code to do 3. The reason I started this discussion was to inform
everyone that it isn't great, hasn't been great since Mozilla, and I don't
even know if it will be great for a long long time. The only thing it has
going for it is that it is ported to other operating systems. Everyone can
be a M$ hater all they want but at least they know how to make a browser.


Bob Everland

-----Original Message-
From: Scott, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 8:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH


I think it depends a lot on Corporations, in Australia we have standards in
most large corporations ( I would assume the same goes in the USA). These
standards means that until otherwise deemed safe these companies will not
migrate to the latest and greatest. Now take this one step further, most
companies (large ones) sign deals with MS to become a MS house. MS in their
wisdom will tell you you cannot use anything that they have, for example I
have worked in places where I can't use dreamweaver because MS has
frontpage.

However as a developer I hated IExplorer, until IE 4.0 came out. I then
found that to survive netscape needed to start making more standards
available in their browser. They took their time about this and lost a big
slice of the market share, however I think that Netscape 6 may be the answer
to all and until I have had a chance to run it I can't say. But the reports
during beta were positive to say the least.

When developing I always use IE, because I can use it with Studio. Then
during the final stages run through everything with it under Netscape and
then fix anything I need to do. But personally I like what MS have delivered
in IE and await to see Netscapes answer, and it would have to be good to
start to regain the market share that they have lost.


regards

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-Original Message-
From: Justin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 November 2000 12:09
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Netscape 6 out UGH


> IE, while not everyone's most favorite, actually does tolerate developers
> more. It allows for errors. Figures out what you were most likely trying
to do.
>
> Netscape doesn't allow for that as much. But if you do exactly what it had
> intended, then it could very well work better than IE.

For me, this is the exact reason I stay with Netscape as my primary browser.
By coding all my HTML and JavaScript for Netscape first, it's much more
likely to work in IE with no problems than if I did the HTML in IE first and
then tried to make it work in Netscape also.  There are some situations
where this is not the case, but 99% of the time it saves me hours of
development time because I never have to go back and rewrite half my
HTML/JavaScript to make it compatible with both browsers.

Our entire development team (except me) uses IE as the primary browser, and
I can't even begin to count the number of times I've heard "!@#$%^&*
Netscape!!" come from someone's desk because they thought the site they've
been working on for days or weeks was done, but low and behold the display
gets all screwy in Netscape and they have to spend another day fixing it.

I see Netscape as the HTML equivalent to coding with "Strict Attribute
Validation" turned on .

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RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

[Scott, Andrew]

I think it depends a lot on Corporations, in Australia we have standards in
most large corporations ( I would assume the same goes in the USA). These
standards means that until otherwise deemed safe these companies will not
migrate to the latest and greatest. Now take this one step further, most
companies (large ones) sign deals with MS to become a MS house. MS in their
wisdom will tell you you cannot use anything that they have, for example I
have worked in places where I can't use dreamweaver because MS has
frontpage.

However as a developer I hated IExplorer, until IE 4.0 came out. I then
found that to survive netscape needed to start making more standards
available in their browser. They took their time about this and lost a big
slice of the market share, however I think that Netscape 6 may be the answer
to all and until I have had a chance to run it I can't say. But the reports
during beta were positive to say the least.

When developing I always use IE, because I can use it with Studio. Then
during the final stages run through everything with it under Netscape and
then fix anything I need to do. But personally I like what MS have delivered
in IE and await to see Netscapes answer, and it would have to be good to
start to regain the market share that they have lost.


regards

Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer
ANZ eCommerce Centre
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Justin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 November 2000 12:09
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Netscape 6 out UGH


> IE, while not everyone's most favorite, actually does tolerate developers
> more. It allows for errors. Figures out what you were most likely trying
to do.
>
> Netscape doesn't allow for that as much. But if you do exactly what it had
> intended, then it could very well work better than IE.

For me, this is the exact reason I stay with Netscape as my primary browser.
By coding all my HTML and JavaScript for Netscape first, it's much more
likely to work in IE with no problems than if I did the HTML in IE first and
then tried to make it work in Netscape also.  There are some situations
where this is not the case, but 99% of the time it saves me hours of
development time because I never have to go back and rewrite half my
HTML/JavaScript to make it compatible with both browsers.

Our entire development team (except me) uses IE as the primary browser, and
I can't even begin to count the number of times I've heard "!@#$%^&*
Netscape!!" come from someone's desk because they thought the site they've
been working on for days or weeks was done, but low and behold the display
gets all screwy in Netscape and they have to spend another day fixing it.

I see Netscape as the HTML equivalent to coding with "Strict Attribute
Validation" turned on .

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RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

[Scott, Andrew]

To be honest I thought it was different, I was under the impression that
Mozilla was an independant team of developers to Netscape, but shared the
resources to achieve the results. I might be wrong, but I recall reading
this somehwere in the gozilla docs!

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-Original Message-
From: Jaime Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 November 2000 11:52
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH


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This is the story about Mozilla, worth no more than two cents:

1. Mozilla was the internal codename for the Navigator program inside
Netscape.  They even had a dinosaur and where all proud of their product.
Cool team.  If you clicked certain keys in the about the dinosaur would
popup, etc.

2. IE came after that and Netscape was recommending to use the Mozilla word
in the USER_AGENT for recognizing their browser.  At this point IE was just
trying to comply to that and added "Mozilla compatible" to it, until...

3. IE 3 came causing havoc and proposing *innovation*

4. You know the 4.0 wars and the lawsuit and the Netscape death and burial
in the AOL cemetery

5. And Netscape launched mozilla.org with all the code of Netscape 4.0 as
source code licenses.  The original team was supposedly going over there...

6. and then the final punch with IE 5.0. And now Netscape thinking skipping
a 5 and putting a 6 will put them one version ahead of Microsoft.  haha.

So don't think that mozilla in USER_AGENT is from mozilla.org, but from the
prehistory of Netscape.


> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:38 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Netscape 6 out UGH
>
>
> Have you taken a look at your user_agent string lately?
>
> HTTP_USER_AGENT=Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0)
>
> jon
> - Original Message -
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> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 4:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH
>
>
> > IE is based off of Mozilla? Did I wake up on another planet
> today? As far
> as
> > I know, thats _defintely_ not the case.
> > (Although I prefer IE over Netscape as you do.)
> >
> > ===
> > Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Allaire
> >
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> >
> > "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> >
> >
> > > I also hate to tell you that IE and Netscape are based off of the open
> > > source Mozilla project which Opera has followed closely with.
> > > Just because
> > > it's Microsoft doesn't mean you have to hate it.
> >
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RE: Dump Entire Array Contents?

[Scott, Andrew]

Not to mention that cfa_dump uses css/dhtml to be able to hide selected
fields!!! Just by clicking on the var too hide.

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-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 November 2000 10:46
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Subject: RE: Dump Entire Array Contents?


> Anyone know of a quick way to dump an entire arrays contents 
> to the screen?

You can use the CF_OBJECTDUMP tag from the Allaire developers' gallery, or
the CFA_DUMP tag if you're using Spectra. These do a nice job of using HTML
tables for displaying the contents of complex data objects.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

[Scott, Andrew]

*lol* Well we can all wish/hope for miracles!

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 November 2000 08:44
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Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH


Does any of this really matter? All that they should care about is if there
browser conforms the W3C specifications so I can count on things to work how
they are suppose to. Not how they are suppose to according to Microsoft or
Netscape or any other browser. I thought that's what the whole point of the
W3C. I just always thought Microsoft did a better job at conforming to these
standards then Netscape.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Raymond K. Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH


IE is based off of Mozilla? Did I wake up on another planet today? As far as
I know, thats _defintely_ not the case.
(Although I prefer IE over Netscape as you do.)

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Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Allaire

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"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda


> I also hate to tell you that IE and Netscape are based off of the open
> source Mozilla project which Opera has followed closely with.
> Just because
> it's Microsoft doesn't mean you have to hate it.



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RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

[Scott, Andrew]

Correct me if I am wrong, but mozilla being the very first offical browser.
Has set the standard others have to face and is where the w3c use to filter
the standards across the board.

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-Original Message-
From: Raymond K. Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 November 2000 08:28
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Subject: RE: Netscape 6 out UGH


IE is based off of Mozilla? Did I wake up on another planet today? As far as
I know, thats _defintely_ not the case.
(Although I prefer IE over Netscape as you do.)

===
Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Allaire

Email   : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ UIN : 3679482

"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda


> I also hate to tell you that IE and Netscape are based off of the open
> source Mozilla project which Opera has followed closely with.
> Just because
> it's Microsoft doesn't mean you have to hate it.



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RE: Quark integration

[Scott, Andrew]

It has been a long time since I used Quark XPress, however from memory the
only way to intrigrate would be to use activeX or a con object. The
assumption is that this is an NT server, otherwise you might need to use
corba...

There are programable extensions available for Quark, whether there are any
for data population I don't know it has been far too long. But appleScript I
believe would not be an option if its a MS environment!


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-Original Message-
From: Rob Keniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 November 2000 12:36
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Quark integration


on 9/11/00 8:52 PM, stas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Let's say that I have a Quark file that I'd like to populate with
> information based on user choices and create an on-line proof for them, as
> well as a high-quality version that can be sent to a printer. We are
> thinking of using on the fly PDF to do the both low-rez proof and the
final
> hi-res output version, but I am wondering if PDF can be taken out of
> equation altogether. We have a controled user environment, so ActiveX or
> Java applets are not out of the question. Thanks for any tips!

AppleScript...

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