Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
On 7/20/06, dcooper @ macromedia. com dcooper @ macromedia. com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, just doing some testing on these tags (cfthread and cfjoin) and I hope to have them posted on my blog today or tomorow. They'l require CF7, but Standard Edition is fine (Enterprise not required). Awesome Damon-- this is something I've needed/wanted for quite some time. The applications I work with depend on multiple calls to slow, 3rd party resources. Being able to thread these calls and have their results returned (without depending on shared scopes) is going to make my life a whole lot better as a developer. Looking forward to it! - Brandon -- http://devnulled.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247257 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
On Thursday 20 July 2006 18:47, Dante Orlando wrote: So out of curiosity, why didn't MACR implement cfthread/cfjoin instead of the async gateway in the first place? It's apples and oranges isn't it ? Thread support is something you can do with the gateway, but the gateway also offers you a lot more than just that ! -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247264 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
CFTHREAD CFJOIN proof of concept tags for CF7 posted: http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm Damon FYI, just doing some testing on these tags (cfthread and cfjoin) and I hope to have them posted on my blog today or tomorow. They'l require CF7, but Standard Edition is fine (Enterprise not required). Using the these tags with CF7 won't give you the thread pooling and other fine-grained control, such as the number of dedicated threads for processing, etc that you get with the Async Gateway and Event Gateway architecture, but hopefully they'll still be useful. Glad to see our developers used their plane ride back from CFUNITED constructively :) Damon Not sure, TBD :) (don't need to stinkin hell raining down on me! :) Let me just say that there's nothing (*technically*) that ties it to the gateway infrastructure... Damon So, would this still be an Enterprise only feature then? Or would the tag be usable in Standard? (You do realise that if you say Ent only then all hell will reign down upon you from others currently watching this thread :) Andy On 18/07/06, dcooper @ macromedia. com dcooper @ macromedia. com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247282 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
FYI, just doing some testing on these tags (cfthread and cfjoin) and I hope to have them posted on my blog today or tomorow. They'l require CF7, but Standard Edition is fine (Enterprise not required). Using the these tags with CF7 won't give you the thread pooling and other fine-grained control, such as the number of dedicated threads for processing, etc that you get with the Async Gateway and Event Gateway architecture, but hopefully they'll still be useful. Glad to see our developers used their plane ride back from CFUNITED constructively :) Damon Not sure, TBD :) (don't need to stinkin hell raining down on me! :) Let me just say that there's nothing (*technically*) that ties it to the gateway infrastructure... Damon So, would this still be an Enterprise only feature then? Or would the tag be usable in Standard? (You do realise that if you say Ent only then all hell will reign down upon you from others currently watching this thread :) Andy On 18/07/06, dcooper @ macromedia. com dcooper @ macromedia. com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247168 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
On 7/18/06, dcooper @ macromedia. com dcooper @ macromedia. com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, we did cfthread tag in about a day...we're debating whether to toss it out there as an open source project... So out of curiosity, why didn't MACR implement cfthread/cfjoin instead of the async gateway in the first place? -dante ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247218 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
FYI, just doing some testing on these tags (cfthread and cfjoin) and I hope to have them posted on my blog today or tomorow. They'l require CF7, but Standard Edition is fine (Enterprise not required). Just out of curiosity, what is cfjoin? -Dan ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247222 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
The NewAtlanta folks are adding CFTHREAD/CFJOIN to BD7. It allows you to fire off an asynch request and then get it back. Looks like Damon and the CF folks are going to give us this as an unsupported(?) addon. Andy On 20/07/06, Dan G. Switzer, II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, just doing some testing on these tags (cfthread and cfjoin) and I hope to have them posted on my blog today or tomorow. They'l require CF7, but Standard Edition is fine (Enterprise not required). Just out of curiosity, what is cfjoin? -Dan ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247233 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
Andy, The NewAtlanta folks are adding CFTHREAD/CFJOIN to BD7. It allows you to fire off an asynch request and then get it back. Looks like Damon and the CF folks are going to give us this as an unsupported(?) addon. Thanks for the response, that clears it up! _Dan ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247235 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
Some would disagree ;-) heh ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion Bobby Hartsfield wrote: If you were going to do that, couldn't you just use fancyTitleAJAX/fancyTitle ? Probably, but that wouldn't be low-tech ;) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247125 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
Post when it's complete. Be good to have a look. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 18 05:41:26 2006 Subject: Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion In about 2 days I've got a really light weight Asyncronous HTTP caller lib coming out. It allows you to make asyncronous GET and POST requests to any given URL. I haven't finished writing up the documentation for my website, but contact me offlist if you want a copy, and I can walk you through using it - it's pretty simple. Regards, Mark On 7/18/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you just use AJAX and specify a dummy return function? On 7/17/06, Paul Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am aware (somewhat!) of the asynchronous Web services capability with CFCs in ColdFusion. What would listers recommend if I simply want to call a ColdFusion action page asynchronously. The asychronous call is a one-way trip and does not require data back to the caller. Here's the scenario briefly: I have a sign-up form that calls an action page, but the action page does a lot of heavy lifting with numerous queries and loops. The page takes about 15 seconds to run, the result of which is an autogenerated e-mail link with an autologin to an application environment. I echo back an acknowledgement page immediately while processing continues on the action page. What I have will work since the thread will continue to run even if the user click away from the page, but I would prefer that the thread would run asychronously and not appear to be tying up the page. I would prefer to not go the CFC route, but I am open to persuasion. Thanks. Paul Fraser Minneapolis -- ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246849 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
I am aware (somewhat!) of the asynchronous Web services capability with CFCs in ColdFusion. What would listers recommend if I simply want to call a ColdFusion action page asynchronously. The asychronous call is a one-way trip and does not require data back to the caller. The really simple solution is to create a JavaScript Image object and set its src attribute to the URL of the action page. The user has no sure way of knowing that the request even got to the server, let alone whether there was a processing error. But it works. Nick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246850 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
On Monday 17 July 2006 17:10, Rick Root wrote: That wouldn't be asynchronous though. Because his page would wait for the CFHTTP to complete. Not if you set a low timeout value :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246854 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
If you were going to do that, couldn't you just use fancyTitleAJAX/fancyTitle ? ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion Tom Chiverton wrote: On Monday 17 July 2006 16:07, Paul Fraser wrote: I would prefer to not go the CFC route, but I am open to persuasion. The poor mans version could fire off a CFHTTP request to a page to do the heavy lifting, and then print the 'all OK' message. That wouldn't be asynchronous though. Because his page would wait for the CFHTTP to complete. One alternative would be to call a cfm file in an iframe, and then use javascript to redirect the main page. The request in the inline from would continue to run even though the browser isn't attached to it anymore. Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246889 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
Yeah, we did cfthread tag in about a day...we're debating whether to toss it out there as an open source project... Damon Hmmm...sounds like a perfect use of the new CFTHREAD tag in BD 7.0: http://blog.newatlanta.com/index. cfm?mode=entryentry=152A1ECC-B7C2-5C0D-4269B203A722C055 Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC I am aware (somewhat!) of the asynchronous Web services capability with CFCs in ColdFusion. What would listers recommend if I simply want to call a ColdFusion action page asynchronously. The asychronous call is a one-way trip and does not require data back to the caller. Here's the scenario briefly: I have a sign-up form that calls an action page, but the action page does a lot of heavy lifting with numerous queries and loops. The page takes about 15 seconds to run, the result of which is an autogenerated e-mail link with an autologin to an application environment. I echo back an acknowledgement page immediately while processing continues on the action page. What I have will work since the thread will continue to run even if the user click away from the page, but I would prefer that the thread would run asychronously and not appear to be tying up the page. I would prefer to not go the CFC route, but I am open to persuasion. Thanks. Paul Fraser Minneapolis ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246903 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
Don't debate - do. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue Jul 18 17:23:22 2006 Subject: Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion Yeah, we did cfthread tag in about a day...we're debating whether to toss it out there as an open source project... Damon Hmmm...sounds like a perfect use of the new CFTHREAD tag in BD 7.0: http://blog.newatlanta.com/index. cfm?mode=entryentry=152A1ECC-B7C2-5C0D-4269B203A722C055 Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC I am aware (somewhat!) of the asynchronous Web services capability with CFCs in ColdFusion. What would listers recommend if I simply want to call a ColdFusion action page asynchronously. The asychronous call is a one-way trip and does not require data back to the caller. Here's the scenario briefly: I have a sign-up form that calls an action page, but the action page does a lot of heavy lifting with numerous queries and loops. The page takes about 15 seconds to run, the result of which is an autogenerated e-mail link with an autologin to an application environment. I echo back an acknowledgement page immediately while processing continues on the action page. What I have will work since the thread will continue to run even if the user click away from the page, but I would prefer that the thread would run asychronously and not appear to be tying up the page. I would prefer to not go the CFC route, but I am open to persuasion. Thanks. Paul Fraser Minneapolis ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246907 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
I should add: 1) This was built by one of our developers in his personal time, so it'd be unsupported by us officially, etc, but we'll see if it makes sense to post on something like the Adobe Exchange, etc, and/or roll into the product in a future update. 2) Customers using CF7 Enterprise have this capability now with the Async Gateway, but this might be a nice add-on to simplify things. Damon Yeah, we did cfthread tag in about a day...we're debating whether to toss it out there as an open source project... Damon ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246911 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
So, would this still be an Enterprise only feature then? Or would the tag be usable in Standard? (You do realise that if you say Ent only then all hell will reign down upon you from others currently watching this thread :) Andy On 18/07/06, dcooper @ macromedia. com dcooper @ macromedia. com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should add: 1) This was built by one of our developers in his personal time, so it'd be unsupported by us officially, etc, but we'll see if it makes sense to post on something like the Adobe Exchange, etc, and/or roll into the product in a future update. 2) Customers using CF7 Enterprise have this capability now with the Async Gateway, but this might be a nice add-on to simplify things. Damon Yeah, we did cfthread tag in about a day...we're debating whether to toss it out there as an open source project... Damon ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246918 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
Bobby Hartsfield wrote: If you were going to do that, couldn't you just use fancyTitleAJAX/fancyTitle ? Probably, but that wouldn't be low-tech ;) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246919 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
Not sure, TBD :) (don't need to stinkin hell raining down on me! :) Let me just say that there's nothing (*technically*) that ties it to the gateway infrastructure... Damon So, would this still be an Enterprise only feature then? Or would the tag be usable in Standard? (You do realise that if you say Ent only then all hell will reign down upon you from others currently watching this thread :) Andy On 18/07/06, dcooper @ macromedia. com dcooper @ macromedia. com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246920 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Don't debate - do. I agree. I was pretty much drooling at the thought of CFTHREAD when Vince talked about it at CFUNITED. rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246922 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
You'll make lots of CF Std people happy and you'll probably gets lots of beer out it too :) That would be the clincher for me lol On 18/07/06, dcooper @ macromedia. com dcooper @ macromedia. com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure, TBD :) (don't need to stinkin hell raining down on me! :) Let me just say that there's nothing (*technically*) that ties it to the gateway infrastructure... Damon So, would this still be an Enterprise only feature then? Or would the tag be usable in Standard? (You do realise that if you say Ent only then all hell will reign down upon you from others currently watching this thread :) Andy On 18/07/06, dcooper @ macromedia. com dcooper @ macromedia. com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246923 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
Cool--you guys are good! Then it should only take you another day to implement abstract CFCs and CFC interfaces (both fully supported--not open source projects--in BD 7.0). And adding support for the null keyword and IsNull function (more BD 7.0 features) could probably be done before lunch; after lunch you can add the onClientStart and onMissingTemplate handlers to Application.cfc (yet more BD 7.0 enhancements). Maybe someone else could hack out the CFIMAGE and CFIMAP tags (currently in BD 6.2.1) over the weekend? Since you only have to worry about implementing in Java (and not both Java and .NET, like BD), it shouldn't be too hard. Cheers, Vince Yeah, we did cfthread tag in about a day...we're debating whether to toss it out there as an open source project... Damon Hmmm...sounds like a perfect use of the new CFTHREAD tag in BD 7.0: http://blog.newatlanta.com/index. cfm?mode=entryentry=152A1ECC-B7C2-5C0D-4269B203A722C055 Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC I am aware (somewhat!) of the asynchronous Web services capability with CFCs in ColdFusion. What would listers recommend if I simply want to call a ColdFusion action page asynchronously. The asychronous call is a one-way trip and does not require data back to the caller. Here's the scenario briefly: I have a sign-up form that calls an action page, but the action page does a lot of heavy lifting with numerous queries and loops. The page takes about 15 seconds to run, the result of which is an autogenerated e-mail link with an autologin to an application environment. I echo back an acknowledgement page immediately while processing continues on the action page. What I have will work since the thread will continue to run even if the user click away from the page, but I would prefer that the thread would run asychronously and not appear to be tying up the page. I would prefer to not go the CFC route, but I am open to persuasion. Thanks. Paul Fraser ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246954 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
Vince Bonfanti wrote: Cool--you guys are good! Then it should only take you another day to implement abstract CFCs and CFC interfaces (both fully supported--not open source projects--in BD 7.0). And adding support for the null keyword and IsNull function (more BD 7.0 features) could probably be done before lunch; after lunch you can add the onClientStart and onMissingTemplate handlers to Application.cfc (yet more BD 7.0 enhancements). Maybe someone else could hack out the CFIMAGE and CFIMAP tags (currently in BD 6.2.1) over the weekend? Since you only have to worry about implementing in Java (and not both Java and .NET, like BD), it shouldn't be too hard. hah. Been a while since I've seen a good flame war that wasn't about frameworks ;) Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246962 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
Cool--you guys are good! Then it should only take you another day to implement abstract CFCs and CFC interfaces (both fully supported--not open source projects--in BD 7.0). And adding support for the null keyword and IsNull function (more BD 7.0 features) could probably be done before lunch; after lunch you can add the onClientStart and onMissingTemplate handlers to Application.cfc (yet more BD 7.0 enhancements). Maybe someone else could hack out the CFIMAGE and CFIMAP tags (currently in BD 6.2.1) over the weekend? Since you only have to worry about implementing in Java (and not both Java and .NET, like BD), it shouldn't be too hard. I had no idea BD 7 was already released. The latest I can find on your site is 6.2.1. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246985 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
I just posted up my asyncHTTP caller (asyncronous GET and POST requests). http://www.compoundtheory.com/?action=asynchttp.index I've yet to do a blog post on it, but it's very straight forward. Drop the lib in your webroot (or mapping), create a new asyncHTTP CFC, and then run the get() or post() methods on it. If you have any feedback let me know. Mark On 7/19/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool--you guys are good! Then it should only take you another day to implement abstract CFCs and CFC interfaces (both fully supported--not open source projects--in BD 7.0). And adding support for the null keyword and IsNull function (more BD 7.0 features) could probably be done before lunch; after lunch you can add the onClientStart and onMissingTemplate handlers to Application.cfc (yet more BD 7.0 enhancements). Maybe someone else could hack out the CFIMAGE and CFIMAP tags (currently in BD 6.2.1) over the weekend? Since you only have to worry about implementing in Java (and not both Java and .NET, like BD), it shouldn't be too hard. I had no idea BD 7 was already released. The latest I can find on your site is 6.2.1. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246993 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
First, my apologies for the snooty tone of my previous message (I somehow can't seem to avoid shooting myself in the foot in public--it must be a personality flaw). To answer your question: no, BD 7.0 has not been released publicly yet. The public beta is planned to begin soon, as announced at CFUNITED (and on my blog just prior to that). I'll post a short, polite message to this list when the beta is available for download. Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC I had no idea BD 7 was already released. The latest I can find on your site is 6.2.1. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246997 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
First, my apologies for the snooty tone of my previous message (I somehow can't seem to avoid shooting myself in the foot in public--it must be a personality flaw). Personally, I always attempt to consciously discount the tone of email messages, since it's so easy to misinterpret that. To answer your question: no, BD 7.0 has not been released publicly yet. The public beta is planned to begin soon, as announced at CFUNITED (and on my blog just prior to that). I'll post a short, polite message to this list when the beta is available for download. I honestly wasn't sure if it was available yet. I heard some of your presentation at CFUNITED, but didn't think it would be finished so soon after that! Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247011 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
I am aware (somewhat!) of the asynchronous Web services capability with CFCs in ColdFusion. What would listers recommend if I simply want to call a ColdFusion action page asynchronously. The asychronous call is a one-way trip and does not require data back to the caller. Here's the scenario briefly: I have a sign-up form that calls an action page, but the action page does a lot of heavy lifting with numerous queries and loops. The page takes about 15 seconds to run, the result of which is an autogenerated e-mail link with an autologin to an application environment. I echo back an acknowledgement page immediately while processing continues on the action page. What I have will work since the thread will continue to run even if the user click away from the page, but I would prefer that the thread would run asychronously and not appear to be tying up the page. I would prefer to not go the CFC route, but I am open to persuasion. Thanks. Paul Fraser Minneapolis ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246764 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
On Monday 17 July 2006 16:07, Paul Fraser wrote: I would prefer to not go the CFC route, but I am open to persuasion. The poor mans version could fire off a CFHTTP request to a page to do the heavy lifting, and then print the 'all OK' message. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246770 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
Tom Chiverton wrote: On Monday 17 July 2006 16:07, Paul Fraser wrote: I would prefer to not go the CFC route, but I am open to persuasion. The poor mans version could fire off a CFHTTP request to a page to do the heavy lifting, and then print the 'all OK' message. That wouldn't be asynchronous though. Because his page would wait for the CFHTTP to complete. One alternative would be to call a cfm file in an iframe, and then use javascript to redirect the main page. The request in the inline from would continue to run even though the browser isn't attached to it anymore. Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246775 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
That wouldn't be asynchronous though. Because his page would wait for the CFHTTP to complete. One alternative would be to call a cfm file in an iframe, and then use javascript to redirect the main page. The request in the inline from would continue to run even though the browser isn't attached to it anymore. You could write a wrapper to command line HTTP tool like CURL (the one I like) or WGET. The cfexecute / tag will work asynchronously if you specify a zero timeout. I current use this technique for Verity indexing-as we're still on CFMX 7 Standard. I really wish CF would provide for better mechanisms for asynchronous processing--and provide that capability for CFMX Standard versions. -Dan ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246792 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
I posted a different solution here: http://www.numtopia.com/terry/blog/archives/2006/07/asynchronous_cfml_wi thout_a_gateway.cfm It does require using a cfc though. Terrence Ryan Senior Systems Programmer Wharton Computing and Information Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246794 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
Hmmm...sounds like a perfect use of the new CFTHREAD tag in BD 7.0: http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=152A1ECC-B7C2-5C0D-4269B203A722C055 Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC I am aware (somewhat!) of the asynchronous Web services capability with CFCs in ColdFusion. What would listers recommend if I simply want to call a ColdFusion action page asynchronously. The asychronous call is a one-way trip and does not require data back to the caller. Here's the scenario briefly: I have a sign-up form that calls an action page, but the action page does a lot of heavy lifting with numerous queries and loops. The page takes about 15 seconds to run, the result of which is an autogenerated e-mail link with an autologin to an application environment. I echo back an acknowledgement page immediately while processing continues on the action page. What I have will work since the thread will continue to run even if the user click away from the page, but I would prefer that the thread would run asychronously and not appear to be tying up the page. I would prefer to not go the CFC route, but I am open to persuasion. Thanks. Paul Fraser Minneapolis ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246823 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
Can you just use AJAX and specify a dummy return function? On 7/17/06, Paul Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am aware (somewhat!) of the asynchronous Web services capability with CFCs in ColdFusion. What would listers recommend if I simply want to call a ColdFusion action page asynchronously. The asychronous call is a one-way trip and does not require data back to the caller. Here's the scenario briefly: I have a sign-up form that calls an action page, but the action page does a lot of heavy lifting with numerous queries and loops. The page takes about 15 seconds to run, the result of which is an autogenerated e-mail link with an autologin to an application environment. I echo back an acknowledgement page immediately while processing continues on the action page. What I have will work since the thread will continue to run even if the user click away from the page, but I would prefer that the thread would run asychronously and not appear to be tying up the page. I would prefer to not go the CFC route, but I am open to persuasion. Thanks. Paul Fraser Minneapolis ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246845 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Low-tech asychronous call to ColdFusion
In about 2 days I've got a really light weight Asyncronous HTTP caller lib coming out. It allows you to make asyncronous GET and POST requests to any given URL. I haven't finished writing up the documentation for my website, but contact me offlist if you want a copy, and I can walk you through using it - it's pretty simple. Regards, Mark On 7/18/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you just use AJAX and specify a dummy return function? On 7/17/06, Paul Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am aware (somewhat!) of the asynchronous Web services capability with CFCs in ColdFusion. What would listers recommend if I simply want to call a ColdFusion action page asynchronously. The asychronous call is a one-way trip and does not require data back to the caller. Here's the scenario briefly: I have a sign-up form that calls an action page, but the action page does a lot of heavy lifting with numerous queries and loops. The page takes about 15 seconds to run, the result of which is an autogenerated e-mail link with an autologin to an application environment. I echo back an acknowledgement page immediately while processing continues on the action page. What I have will work since the thread will continue to run even if the user click away from the page, but I would prefer that the thread would run asychronously and not appear to be tying up the page. I would prefer to not go the CFC route, but I am open to persuasion. Thanks. Paul Fraser Minneapolis -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com ICQ: 3094740 ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246846 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
