Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons

Tacky Nathan, very tacky.

For my home network, I have 2 Macs, 1 Athlon and 1 Pentium III. The
Pentium and Athlon give me more than 3 times the number of problems that
the 2 Macs do. I wish my Wintel machines were half as productive as the
Macs. I'd love to be able do most of my coding using one of the G3 Macs.
Unfortunately UD for the Mac just doesn't cut it.

larry

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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-29 Thread Neil Clark

oh no, I see a Win/Mac thread looming..

:-


and to answer Nathans Q.  you can only wish for OS X to be realeased sooner
to finally kill them off (just my $0.02) oh and for Crapscape to go.
Utopia indeed.

Sorry, couldn't resist it.

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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-29 Thread Lord, Heath

Doesn't the Mac sport a PC Emulator that is supposed to run and PC
application?
Why not take the slight performance hit that is supposed to have and run
Studio in the virtual PC?

Just my two cents.

Heath

-Original Message-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 9:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac?


Tacky Nathan, very tacky.

For my home network, I have 2 Macs, 1 Athlon and 1 Pentium III. The
Pentium and Athlon give me more than 3 times the number of problems that
the 2 Macs do. I wish my Wintel machines were half as productive as the
Macs. I'd love to be able do most of my coding using one of the G3 Macs.
Unfortunately UD for the Mac just doesn't cut it.

larry

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fax: (703) 393-2659
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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-29 Thread Greg Wolfinger

 For my home network, I have 2 Macs, 1 Athlon and 1 Pentium III. The
 Pentium and Athlon give me more than 3 times the number of problems that
 the 2 Macs do. I wish my Wintel machines were half as productive as the
 Macs. I'd love to be able do most of my coding using one of the G3 Macs.
 Unfortunately UD for the Mac just doesn't cut it.

Yeh, who needs SMP and True Multi Tasking OS's anyway?
- Original Message -
From: "Larry C. Lyons" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac?


 Tacky Nathan, very tacky.

 For my home network, I have 2 Macs, 1 Athlon and 1 Pentium III. The
 Pentium and Athlon give me more than 3 times the number of problems that
 the 2 Macs do. I wish my Wintel machines were half as productive as the
 Macs. I'd love to be able do most of my coding using one of the G3 Macs.
 Unfortunately UD for the Mac just doesn't cut it.

 larry

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 ColdFusion/Web Developer
 EBStor.com
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 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
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 fax: (703) 393-2659
 http://www.ebstor.com
 http://www.pacel.com
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 Nathan Stanford wrote:
 
  Does someone still use Mac's?
 
  grin
 


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WOT: was RE: Allaire on a Mac? now IE v's Mozilla :-)

2001-01-29 Thread JustinMacCarthy



oh no, I see a Win/Mac thread looming..

Wait here is a Mozilla / IE one

to finally kill them off (just my $0.02) oh and for Crapscape to go.
Utopia indeed.

Anyone who has not tried Mozilla 0.7 should have a look. Finally getting
there. Some get features. / V fast SSL etc working

Justin in Black Beret mode.


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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons

Unless the new version of VirtualPC (v4?) has improved considerably, its
like running a 80mhz Pentium. VPC is good for checking a site but I
don't think that its any good for any serious development work. That's
why I have CF Studio.

larry

"Lord, Heath" wrote:
 
 Doesn't the Mac sport a PC Emulator that is supposed to run and PC
 application?
 Why not take the slight performance hit that is supposed to have and run
 Studio in the virtual PC?
 
 Just my two cents.
 
 Heath
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 9:33 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 Tacky Nathan, very tacky.
 
 For my home network, I have 2 Macs, 1 Athlon and 1 Pentium III. The
 Pentium and Athlon give me more than 3 times the number of problems that
 the 2 Macs do. I wish my Wintel machines were half as productive as the
 Macs. I'd love to be able do most of my coding using one of the G3 Macs.
 Unfortunately UD for the Mac just doesn't cut it.
 
 larry
 
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 EBStor.com
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 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
 tel: (703) 393-7930 x253
 fax: (703) 393-2659
 http://www.ebstor.com
 http://www.pacel.com
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 Nathan Stanford wrote:
 
  Does someone still use Mac's?
 
  grin
 

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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-25 Thread Larry W. Virden


From: "Joby Bednar" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hey I started on a Mac and still have it sitting on my desk... it's doing a
 nice job propping up my monitor so it's eye level for when I'm working on my
 PC... but it's still there!
From: "Nathan Stanford" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Does someone still use Mac's?

What - someone still uses a "PC" ?  I thought everyone moved on to a responsible
OS, like Unix...
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RE: CF IDE for *nix Mac etc ...was RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-24 Thread Paul Johnston

To be honest, all I want from an IDE to write code on is the tag/function
completion.  If someone wants to build this into jedit (or is it already
there?) then I would use it.  What would be even more useful would be the
ability to add in my own tags/functions etc for future use.

That way you can make the editor do completion for any language coding you
want in the world.  Whatever language, the editor helps.

Anyone?

Paul

PS As long as you can turn on and off certain completion schemes, then it
would work fantastically well!

   -Original Message-
   From: JustinMacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:14 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: CF IDE for *nix  Mac etc ...was RE: Allaire on a Mac?
  
  
   Anyone wants a nice cfstudio like IDE for *nix , Mac Windows Sun ??
   Check out http://jedit.sourceforge.net don't dismiss it because
   is java -
   it's very fast. Make sure you install the plugins (tabs, cmd
   and project,
   ftp...) is you want a real cfstudio type interface .. You can
   customise it
   (eg add close buffer to right click)
  
   I'm working on a DB plugin for it...
  
   Justin
  
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   From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:53 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac?
   
   
   I don't know if I'd like CFserver on a Mac or not, but I'd like to see
   the IDE's (Studio/HomeSite) ported over (to Linux as well,
   though I know
   there are some code issues there)
   
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   Randy Zeitman wrote:
   
Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-24 Thread Sean Renet

I think this would explain some problems I am having with flash and the mac.
On a pc loading variables into a flash movie is a simple process.  However
for Netscape on a mac I seem to have to set a cookie and read it instead of
loading directly from a CF template and I have yet to find a way to get IE
on a mac to load variables.  Anyone know if I am just doing this wrong?

FRAME 1
ACTIONSCRIPT:
eof = "0";
loadVariablesNum ("act_cftoken.cfm", 0, "POST");
gotoAndPlay ("Scene 1", "check");

FRAME 2 ("check")
if (eof=1) {
ifFrameLoaded (6) {
  gotoAndStop ("Scene 1", 6);
 }
} else if (eof=2) {
 gotoAndStop ("Scene 1", "doh");
} else {
 gotoAndPlay ("check");
}


So basically what I am doing here is in the first frame I am loading the
variables from act_cftoken.cfm below which is basically just cfid and
cftoken. I use the variable eof just to tell me that everything else in the
string was read.  Originally act_cftoken.cfm looked like this:

cfinclude template="app_globals.cfm"
cfsetting showdebugoutput="no"
cfsetting enablecfoutputonly="yes"
cfcontent type="text/plain"
cfoutputcfid=#trim(cfid)#/cfoutputcfoutputcftoken=#trim(cftoken)#/cf
outputcfoutputeof=1/cfoutput

but for some reason the same code that worked on a PC wouldn't work on a
mac, so I added setclientcookies to my cfapplication tag in app_gobals.cfm
and added a check for the cookie's variables of cfid and cftoken in my
act_cftoken.cfm

---act_cftoken.cfm---

cfinclude template="app_globals.cfm"
cfsetting showdebugoutput="no"
cfsetting enablecfoutputonly="yes"
cfcontent type="text/plain"
cfif isdefined("cookie.cfid")

cfoutputcfid=#trim(cookie.cfid)#/cfoutputcfoutputcftoken=#trim(cookie
..cftoken)#/cfoutputcfoutputeof=1/cfoutput
cfelseif isdefined("client.cfid")

cfoutputcfid=#trim(client.cfid)#/cfoutputcfoutputcftoken=#trim(client
..cftoken)#/cfoutputcfoutputeof=1/cfoutput
cfelse
cfoutputeof=2/cfoutput
/cfif

I decided to first look for a cookie since the MAC browsers didn't seem to
appreciate my client variables much.  So now on the PC (both browsers) and
MAC Netscape (cookies enabled) flash loads the variables.  And if cookies
were not enabled then I would check for client variables at least for PC
browsers where cookies were not enabled.  This works fine on PC (both
browsers) and MAC Netscape as if the cookies are not enabled on MAC Netscape
I send them to FRAME 3 ("doh") which basically tells them they need to have
their cookies enabled.  That is if both of the checks for cfid fail I load
eof set to 2 which in the action script above sends them to FRAME 3. At the
end of the day, this works fine for everything except MAC IE.  I finally
gave up and decided to browser check for MAC IE and send them to an DHTML
version if that is what they were using.

Anyone else run into this problem?  Are flash's native binaries creating the
problem or am I just doing this ass backwards?


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


  You can't run generator on a mac? isn't that built on JRUN?
  What happened to "write once run anywhere"?

 Generator 2 uses JRun 2 for online generation, but uses native binaries
for
 other things such as offline generation, if I recall correctly.

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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-24 Thread Dave Watts

 I think this would explain some problems I am having with 
 flash and the mac. On a pc loading variables into a flash 
 movie is a simple process. However for Netscape on a mac 
 I seem to have to set a cookie and read it instead of
 loading directly from a CF template and I have yet to find a 
 way to get IE on a mac to load variables. Anyone know if 
 I am just doing this wrong?

I'm no Flash guru - I can spell it, that's about it - but there are known
problems with some plugins in some browsers. I can tell you where you can
get this answered, though. There's a Flash list run by Branden Hall, a Fig
Leaf guy, which covers ActionScript issues quite a bit. It has a moderate
amount of traffic, and is generally on-topic. For more info:

http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/

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http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Patricia Lee

I doubt it.  Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a Macromedia
product.  Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in left
field to me (and I *like* macs).  And when I say left field... I mean on
Mars.

Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and
they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform.  ***
Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then.

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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Jeremy Allen

It is actually not that far fetched when one
considers what OS X is. 

Granted its not needed since OS X will be a fringe OS
for some time.. But the technical feasability of it
is definately easy. 

In fact I bet you could get it working in OS X with 
VERY little coding at all. 

OS X is built on FreeBSD and a BSD kernel which have 
excellent Linux emulation. 

Take linux version of CF, run on OS X under emulation. 

A native port to another Unix is cake, they have three
already, HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, moving to a BSD would not
be much trouble at all (in relative terms to say porting
it to MacOS)

OS X *IS* another Unix..

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


I doubt it.  Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a 
Macromedia
product.  Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY 
out in left
field to me (and I *like* macs).  And when I say left field... I mean on
Mars.

Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and
they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform.  ***
Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then.

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|Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: Allaire on a Mac?
|
|
|Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on 
|Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?
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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread David Livingston

http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/

Or just run linux on your Mac and make it real useful.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


It is actually not that far fetched when one
considers what OS X is. 

Granted its not needed since OS X will be a fringe OS
for some time.. But the technical feasability of it
is definately easy. 

In fact I bet you could get it working in OS X with 
VERY little coding at all. 

OS X is built on FreeBSD and a BSD kernel which have 
excellent Linux emulation. 

Take linux version of CF, run on OS X under emulation. 

A native port to another Unix is cake, they have three
already, HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, moving to a BSD would not
be much trouble at all (in relative terms to say porting
it to MacOS)

OS X *IS* another Unix..

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


I doubt it.  Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a 
Macromedia
product.  Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY 
out in left
field to me (and I *like* macs).  And when I say left field... I mean on
Mars.

Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and
they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform.  ***
Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then.

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|From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: Allaire on a Mac?
|
|
|Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on 
|Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?
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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Jennifer

At 08:57 AM 1/23/01 -0500, you wrote:
Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?

We will probably see some studio-like product in the future so integration 
between the design and the functionality won't require a different OS. 
Server apps is different. There is a market for a CF Studio or HomeSite for 
Mac, but not for CF Server for Mac.

Of course design doesn't actually *require* Mac, but Mac has definite 
design advantages. *grumbles that her home computer can't even register a 
thousand fonts.*

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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Nathan Stanford

Does someone still use Mac's?

grin





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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread JustinMacCarthy

I'd say that CF will run on the mac , consider 

CF5 - Java base 
Java runs "anywhere" sortof :-)
The new MRJ is quite fast.

Cf runs on most *nixs 
MacOSx is pretty much *nix (sort of)


Cfstudio is built on delphi
Delphi is been ported to *nix (klix)
OsX is *nix (sort of )



Justin 




-Original Message-
From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


I doubt it.  Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a 
Macromedia
product.  Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY 
out in left
field to me (and I *like* macs).  And when I say left field... I mean on
Mars.

Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and
they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform.  ***
Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then.

|-Original Message-
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|
|Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on 
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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Jeffry Houser



Jennifer wrote:

 At 08:57 AM 1/23/01 -0500, you wrote:
 Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
 Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?

 We will probably see some studio-like product in the future so integration
 between the design and the functionality won't require a different OS.

  I wouldn't count on it.  Homesite / CF Studio was coded in Delphi.  Is there a mac 
port of Delphi?  Although, my
guess is that CF Studio and Ultradev will become one and the same.  Is Ultradev 
available on the mac?


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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Jeremy Allen

Of course... But why would you buy a mac just to
run Linux to finally make it useful? G

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.


-Original Message-
From: David Livingston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/

Or just run linux on your Mac and make it real useful.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


It is actually not that far fetched when one
considers what OS X is.

Granted its not needed since OS X will be a fringe OS
for some time.. But the technical feasability of it
is definately easy.

In fact I bet you could get it working in OS X with
VERY little coding at all.

OS X is built on FreeBSD and a BSD kernel which have
excellent Linux emulation.

Take linux version of CF, run on OS X under emulation.

A native port to another Unix is cake, they have three
already, HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, moving to a BSD would not
be much trouble at all (in relative terms to say porting
it to MacOS)

OS X *IS* another Unix..

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


I doubt it.  Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a
Macromedia
product.  Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY
out in left
field to me (and I *like* macs).  And when I say left field... I mean on
Mars.

Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and
they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform.  ***
Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then.

|-Original Message-
|From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: Allaire on a Mac?
|
|
|Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
|Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?
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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Greg Wolfinger

 Does someone still use Mac's?

 grin

Uh ohyou are gonna hear it now.  GL.

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- Original Message -
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To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


 Does someone still use Mac's?

 grin





  -Original Message-
  From: Randy Zeitman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:58 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Allaire on a Mac?
 
  Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
  Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?
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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Billy Cravens

I don't know if I'd like CFserver on a Mac or not, but I'd like to see
the IDE's (Studio/HomeSite) ported over (to Linux as well, though I know
there are some code issues there)

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Randy Zeitman wrote:
 
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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Jeremy Allen

Another "fun" thought is that.. once your app is compiled
to classes it should be moveable to any JVM ;)

So.. production wise it should run almost anywhere.. :-P

At least in theory..:)

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.

-Original Message-
From: JustinMacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:19 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


I'd say that CF will run on the mac , consider

CF5 - Java base
Java runs "anywhere" sortof :-)
The new MRJ is quite fast.

Cf runs on most *nixs
MacOSx is pretty much *nix (sort of)


Cfstudio is built on delphi
Delphi is been ported to *nix (klix)
OsX is *nix (sort of )



Justin




-Original Message-
From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


I doubt it.  Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a
Macromedia
product.  Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY
out in left
field to me (and I *like* macs).  And when I say left field... I mean on
Mars.

Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and
they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform.  ***
Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then.

|-Original Message-
|From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: Allaire on a Mac?
|
|
|Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
|Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?
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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread David E. Crawford

I can see the design-time products running on a Mac, but I just don't see
the market demand for server side products on the Mac.

DC

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From: "Jeffry Houser" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 15:49
Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac?




 Jennifer wrote:

  At 08:57 AM 1/23/01 -0500, you wrote:
  Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
  Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?
 
  We will probably see some studio-like product in the future so
integration
  between the design and the functionality won't require a different OS.

   I wouldn't count on it.  Homesite / CF Studio was coded in Delphi.  Is
there a mac port of Delphi?  Although, my
 guess is that CF Studio and Ultradev will become one and the same.  Is
Ultradev available on the mac?


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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Kevin Schmidt

For my boat anchor :-)  Especially the cube!
- Original Message -
From: "Nathan Stanford" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


 Does someone still use Mac's?

 grin





  -Original Message-
  From: Randy Zeitman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:58 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Allaire on a Mac?
 
  Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
  Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?
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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Bud

On 1/23/01, Nathan Stanford penned:
Does someone still use Mac's?

Hey! I resemble that remark!

For all you BBEdit using Macsters out there, I've got a collection of 
ColdFusion Glossary commands (snippets to you Studio geeks) that I've 
made over the past couple years. You're welcome to it. :)

http://www.twcreations.com/ftp/CF_Glossary.sea.hqx

Here is a sampling. Just set up your shortcut keys and go to town. 
Most, like the ## below, you select the text, hit a key combo and it 
places the selected text where it should be.

##


'##'



cfsetting enablecfoutputonly="yes"

cfsetting enablecfoutputonly="no"



CFLOCATION url=""



cfset  = ""



cfform action=""

/cfform



cfinput type="Text" name="" required="No" size="20" maxlength="40"



input type="hidden" name="" value=""



input type="Submit" name="" value="Submit"



CFIF  IS ""/CFIF



CFIF  IS ""CFELSE/CFIF



HTMLEditFormat()



cfswitch expression="##"
cfcase value = ""

/cfcase
cfdefaultcase

/cfdefaultcase
/cfswitch



DateFormat(, "MM/DD/")



cfinclude template=""



ListGetAt(, )



CreateODBCDate()



CFQUERY DATASOURCE="#attributes.DSN#"
INSERT INTO
()
VALUES
()
/CFQUERY



CFQUERY DATASOURCE="#attributes.DSN#"
DELETE FROM
WHERE
/CFQUERY



CFQUERY DATASOURCE="#attributes.DSN#"
UPDATE
SET
WHERE
/CFQUERY



CFQUERY DATASOURCE="#attributes.DSN#" NAME=""
SELECT
FROM
/CFQUERY



CFOUTPUT/CFOUTPUT



rereplace(, "[^0-9\.]+", "", "ALL")



TimeFormat(, "h:mm tt")



Trim()



cfset myquery = QueryNew("cell1, cell2, etc")
cfset temp = QueryAddRow(myquery)
cfset temp = QuerySetCell(myquery, "cell", value [,rownumber])



cfloop index="send" list = "#fieldnames#"
input type="hidden" name="#send#" value="#evaluate(send)#"/cfloop



URLEncodedFormat()
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OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Sean Daniels

 Does someone still use Mac's?

 grin

Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good
reason.

A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less
than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool? Not
to mention $2500.

Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding my
breath).

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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Greg Wolfinger

 CF5 - Java base

No, you are thinking on Neo.  CF5 will still be based from C.

--=@ greg @=--
- Original Message -
From: "Jeremy Allen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:26 PM
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


 Another "fun" thought is that.. once your app is compiled
 to classes it should be moveable to any JVM ;)

 So.. production wise it should run almost anywhere.. :-P

 At least in theory..:)

 Jeremy Allen
 elliptIQ Inc.

 -Original Message-
 From: JustinMacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:19 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 
 I'd say that CF will run on the mac , consider
 
 CF5 - Java base
 Java runs "anywhere" sortof :-)
 The new MRJ is quite fast.
 
 Cf runs on most *nixs
 MacOSx is pretty much *nix (sort of)
 
 
 Cfstudio is built on delphi
 Delphi is been ported to *nix (klix)
 OsX is *nix (sort of )
 
 
 
 Justin
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:56 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 
 I doubt it.  Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a
 Macromedia
 product.  Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY
 out in left
 field to me (and I *like* macs).  And when I say left field... I mean on
 Mars.
 
 Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform
and
 they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform.
***
 Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then.
 
 |-Original Message-
 |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM
 |To: CF-Talk
 |Subject: Allaire on a Mac?
 |
 |
 |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
 |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?
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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread JustinMacCarthy

How do you do 3 button emulation on a one button Mac Mouse ??? :-)
~Justin 

Of course... But why would you buy a mac just to
run Linux to finally make it useful? G

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.


-Original Message-
From: David Livingston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/

Or just run linux on your Mac and make it real useful.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


It is actually not that far fetched when one
considers what OS X is.

Granted its not needed since OS X will be a fringe OS
for some time.. But the technical feasability of it
is definately easy.

In fact I bet you could get it working in OS X with
VERY little coding at all.

OS X is built on FreeBSD and a BSD kernel which have
excellent Linux emulation.

Take linux version of CF, run on OS X under emulation.

A native port to another Unix is cake, they have three
already, HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, moving to a BSD would not
be much trouble at all (in relative terms to say porting
it to MacOS)

OS X *IS* another Unix..

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


I doubt it.  Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a
Macromedia
product.  Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY
out in left
field to me (and I *like* macs).  And when I say left field... I mean on
Mars.

Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac 
platform and
they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix 
platform.  ***
Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then.

|-Original Message-
|From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: Allaire on a Mac?
|
|
|Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
|Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?
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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Joby Bednar

Hey I started on a Mac and still have it sitting on my desk... it's doing a
nice job propping up my monitor so it's eye level for when I'm working on my
PC... but it's still there!

Joby Bednar
Director of Internet Design
iNEOgroup.com



-Original Message-
From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac?


 Does someone still use Mac's?

 grin

Uh ohyou are gonna hear it now.  GL.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


 Does someone still use Mac's?

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CF IDE for *nix Mac etc ...was RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread JustinMacCarthy

Anyone wants a nice cfstudio like IDE for *nix , Mac Windows Sun ??
Check out http://jedit.sourceforge.net don't dismiss it because is java -
it's very fast. Make sure you install the plugins (tabs, cmd and project,
ftp...) is you want a real cfstudio type interface .. You can customise it
(eg add close buffer to right click)

I'm working on a DB plugin for it...

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac?


I don't know if I'd like CFserver on a Mac or not, but I'd like to see
the IDE's (Studio/HomeSite) ported over (to Linux as well, though I know
there are some code issues there)

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HR Web Development, Sabre
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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Jeremy Allen

Hold down a control key and click a mouse button.. ;)

(any key will do, depending on how you set it up)

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.

-Original Message-
From: JustinMacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


How do you do 3 button emulation on a one button Mac Mouse ??? :-)
~Justin

Of course... But why would you buy a mac just to
run Linux to finally make it useful? G

Jeremy Allen
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-Original Message-
From: David Livingston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/

Or just run linux on your Mac and make it real useful.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


It is actually not that far fetched when one
considers what OS X is.

Granted its not needed since OS X will be a fringe OS
for some time.. But the technical feasability of it
is definately easy.

In fact I bet you could get it working in OS X with
VERY little coding at all.

OS X is built on FreeBSD and a BSD kernel which have
excellent Linux emulation.

Take linux version of CF, run on OS X under emulation.

A native port to another Unix is cake, they have three
already, HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, moving to a BSD would not
be much trouble at all (in relative terms to say porting
it to MacOS)

OS X *IS* another Unix..

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


I doubt it.  Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a
Macromedia
product.  Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY
out in left
field to me (and I *like* macs).  And when I say left field... I mean on
Mars.

Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac
platform and
they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix
platform.  ***
Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then.

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|Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: Allaire on a Mac?
|
|
|Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
|Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?
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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Jeremy Allen

Yup, Sorry ;) 

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac?


 CF5 - Java base

No, you are thinking on Neo.  CF5 will still be based from C.

--=@ greg @=--
- Original Message -
From: "Jeremy Allen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:26 PM
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


 Another "fun" thought is that.. once your app is compiled
 to classes it should be moveable to any JVM ;)

 So.. production wise it should run almost anywhere.. :-P

 At least in theory..:)

 Jeremy Allen
 elliptIQ Inc.

 -Original Message-
 From: JustinMacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:19 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 
 I'd say that CF will run on the mac , consider
 
 CF5 - Java base
 Java runs "anywhere" sortof :-)
 The new MRJ is quite fast.
 
 Cf runs on most *nixs
 MacOSx is pretty much *nix (sort of)
 
 
 Cfstudio is built on delphi
 Delphi is been ported to *nix (klix)
 OsX is *nix (sort of )
 
 
 
 Justin
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:56 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 
 I doubt it.  Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a
 Macromedia
 product.  Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY
 out in left
 field to me (and I *like* macs).  And when I say left field... 
I mean on
 Mars.
 
 Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform
and
 they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform.
***
 Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then.
 
 |-Original Message-
 |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM
 |To: CF-Talk
 |Subject: Allaire on a Mac?
 |
 |
 |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
 |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?
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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread David Livingston

A couple of reasons
Footprint is smaller than a normal PC. The cube is tiny and runs fast.
No annoying fans. The imac and I think the cube have been engineered so that
no cooling fans are needed.
You get the best of both worlds. There is software that would let you run
the Mac OS inside of the yellow dog Linux. So you get all of the great
design stuff (like adding tons of fonts) plus the familiar and usefulness of
Linux and Linux apps. You could design with the Mac and test using cfserver
locally. I know there are a good amount of you using BBedit.
Oh yeah, and they look kinda cool. Because, you know, that's the most
important part. j/k
I'm sure next to none of you would find any of this useful, but there are a
few out there. And some might just find it interesting. 
Sorry for getting so OT.

Dave Livingston



-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


Of course... But why would you buy a mac just to
run Linux to finally make it useful? G

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.


-Original Message-
From: David Livingston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/

Or just run linux on your Mac and make it real useful.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


It is actually not that far fetched when one
considers what OS X is.

Granted its not needed since OS X will be a fringe OS
for some time.. But the technical feasability of it
is definately easy.

In fact I bet you could get it working in OS X with
VERY little coding at all.

OS X is built on FreeBSD and a BSD kernel which have
excellent Linux emulation.

Take linux version of CF, run on OS X under emulation.

A native port to another Unix is cake, they have three
already, HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, moving to a BSD would not
be much trouble at all (in relative terms to say porting
it to MacOS)

OS X *IS* another Unix..

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


I doubt it.  Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a
Macromedia
product.  Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY
out in left
field to me (and I *like* macs).  And when I say left field... I mean on
Mars.

Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and
they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform.  ***
Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then.

|-Original Message-
|From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: Allaire on a Mac?
|
|
|Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
|Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?
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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Sean Renet

You can't run generator on a mac? isn't that built on JRUN?  What happened
to "write once run anywhere"?
- Original Message -
From: "Patricia Lee" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:55 AM
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


 I doubt it.  Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a
Macromedia
 product.  Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in
left
 field to me (and I *like* macs).  And when I say left field... I mean on
 Mars.

 Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and
 they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform.  ***
 Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then.

 |-Original Message-
 |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM
 |To: CF-Talk
 |Subject: Allaire on a Mac?
 |
 |
 |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
 |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?
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Re: RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Greg Wolfinger

 A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less
 than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool?
Not
 to mention $2500.

http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/products/model_inspn_1_inspn_8000.htm

My notebook burns anything in its path.
- Original Message -
From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:49 PM
Subject: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


  Does someone still use Mac's?
 
  grin

 Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good
 reason.

 A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less
 than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool?
Not
 to mention $2500.

 Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding my
 breath).

 - Sean

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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Dick Applebaum

The new Mac Optical Mouse has zero buttons...

I've always felt that one is not enough, and two is too many...


At 6:59 PM + 1/23/01, JustinMacCarthy wrote:
How do you do 3 button emulation on a one button Mac Mouse ??? :-)
~Justin

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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Jeremy Allen

I was being facetious :)

Note the G... Ive played with PPC hardware

Just not enuff software support for stuff *I* personally
do.

Nuff said ;)

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.

-Original Message-
From: David Livingston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


A couple of reasons
Footprint is smaller than a normal PC. The cube is tiny and runs fast.
No annoying fans. The imac and I think the cube have been
engineered so that
no cooling fans are needed.
You get the best of both worlds. There is software that would let you run
the Mac OS inside of the yellow dog Linux. So you get all of the great
design stuff (like adding tons of fonts) plus the familiar and
usefulness of
Linux and Linux apps. You could design with the Mac and test using cfserver
locally. I know there are a good amount of you using BBedit.
Oh yeah, and they look kinda cool. Because, you know, that's the most
important part. j/k
I'm sure next to none of you would find any of this useful, but there are a
few out there. And some might just find it interesting.
Sorry for getting so OT.

Dave Livingston



-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


Of course... But why would you buy a mac just to
run Linux to finally make it useful? G

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.


-Original Message-
From: David Livingston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/

Or just run linux on your Mac and make it real useful.
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


It is actually not that far fetched when one
considers what OS X is.

Granted its not needed since OS X will be a fringe OS
for some time.. But the technical feasability of it
is definately easy.

In fact I bet you could get it working in OS X with
VERY little coding at all.

OS X is built on FreeBSD and a BSD kernel which have
excellent Linux emulation.

Take linux version of CF, run on OS X under emulation.

A native port to another Unix is cake, they have three
already, HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, moving to a BSD would not
be much trouble at all (in relative terms to say porting
it to MacOS)

OS X *IS* another Unix..

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


I doubt it.  Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a
Macromedia
product.  Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY
out in left
field to me (and I *like* macs).  And when I say left field... I mean on
Mars.

Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac
platform and
they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix
platform.  ***
Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then.

|-Original Message-
|From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: Allaire on a Mac?
|
|
|Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on
|Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia?
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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Dave Watts

 You can't run generator on a mac? isn't that built on JRUN?  
 What happened to "write once run anywhere"?

Generator 2 uses JRun 2 for online generation, but uses native binaries for
other things such as offline generation, if I recall correctly.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Nick Slay


 
 I wouldn't count on it.  Homesite / CF Studio was coded in Delphi.  Is there a
 mac port of Delphi?  Although, my
 guess is that CF Studio and Ultradev will become one and the same.  Is
 Ultradev available on the mac?

YES.  I have a copy of it here.  All the Macromedia tools are available on
the Mac, Fireworks, Flash, Dreamweaver and Ultradev.  (not sure about
generator though)






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Re: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Nick Slay

And I got one!! hehehhee

While being a PC user for ColdFusion development, I use an Apple Powerbook
for EVERYTHING else.. mainly because I'm sick and tired of my PC freezing
anytime I decide to browse the web or do anything that might tax it's poor
little chips!!

I have everything I need on this Powerbook, email (care of Outlook Express
(and in my opinion far better than the PC equivalent)), browsing (thanks to
either IE or Netscape), admin work (MS Office)... and numerous other
things... oh like editing video from my Digital Video camera via firewire
connection (so cool!).

Oh.. and if I want to run any apps that I can't get a Mac version of... then
I happen to have VirtualPC running on here too... which is one way around
getting ColdFusion working on your Mac!!!  :^)

And the combined features of the Powerbook and Mac OS blow just about any PC
laptop out of the water for a similar price.  I would not consider returning
to a PC laptop, and I am even considering purchasing the new 700+ Mhz G4 for
me new desktop, with a copy of VirtualPC of course.   (And before you say..
700mhz, is that all... these processors are the equivalent of the latest
chips from Intel.)

Right, that's my 2 cents worth couldn't resist it.







 From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:49:55 -0500
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 Does someone still use Mac's?
 
 grin
 
 Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good
 reason.
 
 A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less
 than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool? Not
 to mention $2500.
 
 Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding my
 breath).
 
 - Sean

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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Shane Witbeck

I also have Ultradev v.1 for the mac, unfortunately the odbc connectivity is
not available.

Shane Witbeck

-Original Message-
From: Nick Slay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac?




 I wouldn't count on it.  Homesite / CF Studio was coded in Delphi.  Is
there a
 mac port of Delphi?  Although, my
 guess is that CF Studio and Ultradev will become one and the same.  Is
 Ultradev available on the mac?

YES.  I have a copy of it here.  All the Macromedia tools are available on
the Mac, Fireworks, Flash, Dreamweaver and Ultradev.  (not sure about
generator though)






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Re: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Greg Wolfinger

 for EVERYTHING else.. mainly because I'm sick and tired of my PC freezing
 anytime I decide to browse the web or do anything that might tax it's poor
 little chips!!

Run Linux or Win2k Pro, then see if your computer crashes.

--=@ greg @=--
- Original Message -
From: "Nick Slay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


 And I got one!! hehehhee

 While being a PC user for ColdFusion development, I use an Apple Powerbook
 for EVERYTHING else.. mainly because I'm sick and tired of my PC freezing
 anytime I decide to browse the web or do anything that might tax it's poor
 little chips!!

 I have everything I need on this Powerbook, email (care of Outlook Express
 (and in my opinion far better than the PC equivalent)), browsing (thanks
to
 either IE or Netscape), admin work (MS Office)... and numerous other
 things... oh like editing video from my Digital Video camera via firewire
 connection (so cool!).

 Oh.. and if I want to run any apps that I can't get a Mac version of...
then
 I happen to have VirtualPC running on here too... which is one way around
 getting ColdFusion working on your Mac!!!  :^)

 And the combined features of the Powerbook and Mac OS blow just about any
PC
 laptop out of the water for a similar price.  I would not consider
returning
 to a PC laptop, and I am even considering purchasing the new 700+ Mhz G4
for
 me new desktop, with a copy of VirtualPC of course.   (And before you
say..
 700mhz, is that all... these processors are the equivalent of the latest
 chips from Intel.)

 Right, that's my 2 cents worth couldn't resist it.







  From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:49:55 -0500
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
 
  Does someone still use Mac's?
 
  grin
 
  Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good
  reason.
 
  A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less
  than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool?
Not
  to mention $2500.
 
  Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding
my
  breath).
 
  - Sean
 

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Re: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Nick Slay

Actually, it's not the software in this case, it's the hardware.   NT4 does
a pretty good job.. but there's something that just dies when ever I try to
browse some web sites.. weird stuff a happening... the shop I brought the PC
from basically gave up on it!!


As for Linux... no thanks.  :^)   I played with that a while ago, and it
frustrated the hell out of me.. I like to be able to use a computer for the
job I have to do... and Mac/VirtualPC is a great combination for everything
I do, without the dramas of messing with the OpSys.






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 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:15:45 -0500
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 Subject: Re: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 for EVERYTHING else.. mainly because I'm sick and tired of my PC freezing
 anytime I decide to browse the web or do anything that might tax it's poor
 little chips!!
 
 Run Linux or Win2k Pro, then see if your computer crashes.
 
 --=@ greg @=--
 - Original Message -
 From: "Nick Slay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:29 PM
 Subject: Re: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 
 And I got one!! hehehhee
 
 While being a PC user for ColdFusion development, I use an Apple Powerbook
 for EVERYTHING else.. mainly because I'm sick and tired of my PC freezing
 anytime I decide to browse the web or do anything that might tax it's poor
 little chips!!
 
 I have everything I need on this Powerbook, email (care of Outlook Express
 (and in my opinion far better than the PC equivalent)), browsing (thanks
 to
 either IE or Netscape), admin work (MS Office)... and numerous other
 things... oh like editing video from my Digital Video camera via firewire
 connection (so cool!).
 
 Oh.. and if I want to run any apps that I can't get a Mac version of...
 then
 I happen to have VirtualPC running on here too... which is one way around
 getting ColdFusion working on your Mac!!!  :^)
 
 And the combined features of the Powerbook and Mac OS blow just about any
 PC
 laptop out of the water for a similar price.  I would not consider
 returning
 to a PC laptop, and I am even considering purchasing the new 700+ Mhz G4
 for
 me new desktop, with a copy of VirtualPC of course.   (And before you
 say..
 700mhz, is that all... these processors are the equivalent of the latest
 chips from Intel.)
 
 Right, that's my 2 cents worth couldn't resist it.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:49:55 -0500
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 Does someone still use Mac's?
 
 grin
 
 Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good
 reason.
 
 A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less
 than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool?
 Not
 to mention $2500.
 
 Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding
 my
 breath).
 
 - Sean
 
 

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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Nick Slay

Ah... but are you still running windows on it???:^)

And one of the things I failed to mention about my Powerbook is that it has
wireless networking UNREAL!!  We have two PC's, a G4 Mac and this
powerbook, and there are no cables between the Mac's and PC's, yet they have
full network access via wireless networking.

You can't beat some of the Mac OS features for the powerbook... one of my
favourites being the Location Manager.   I can sit in the office using the
Airport Wireless Network... walk around the house etc without needing cables
to be plugged in in order to surf the net, or send emails... I can then go
out to meetings, and with one click, everything is setup for using the
modem.   A recent trip to the UK had me doing the same thing... one click,
and everything configured for connections in the UK.   No reboots, no
changing IP's etc etc etc...

It's all down to personal preference I guess.. from the experience I had
with my last PC laptop, I won't ever by another one again.

oh, and by the way... that laptop you give the URL too... still doesn't
compete with the Powerbooks!!   hehehehehehe


 From: "Greg Wolfinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:04:03 -0500
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less
 than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool?
 Not
 to mention $2500.
 
 http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/products/model_inspn_1_inspn_8000.htm
 
 My notebook burns anything in its path.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:49 PM
 Subject: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 
 Does someone still use Mac's?
 
 grin
 
 Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good
 reason.
 
 A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less
 than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool?
 Not
 to mention $2500.
 
 Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding my
 breath).
 
 - Sean
 

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RE: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Robert Everland III

Last time I checked this was a CF site. There is a CF-Community for this
stuff. The reason a lot of tools aren't for Mac is because it isn't as
popular as PC. Mac people love macs, they have better chips, but they pay
for them. I don't like Macs, you do. I won't buy one you will. Let's end the
conversation or move it off of here before you get more flames.



Bob Everland

-Original Message-
From: Nick Slay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac?


Ah... but are you still running windows on it???:^)

And one of the things I failed to mention about my Powerbook is that it has
wireless networking UNREAL!!  We have two PC's, a G4 Mac and this
powerbook, and there are no cables between the Mac's and PC's, yet they have
full network access via wireless networking.

You can't beat some of the Mac OS features for the powerbook... one of my
favourites being the Location Manager.   I can sit in the office using the
Airport Wireless Network... walk around the house etc without needing cables
to be plugged in in order to surf the net, or send emails... I can then go
out to meetings, and with one click, everything is setup for using the
modem.   A recent trip to the UK had me doing the same thing... one click,
and everything configured for connections in the UK.   No reboots, no
changing IP's etc etc etc...

It's all down to personal preference I guess.. from the experience I had
with my last PC laptop, I won't ever by another one again.

oh, and by the way... that laptop you give the URL too... still doesn't
compete with the Powerbooks!!   hehehehehehe


 From: "Greg Wolfinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:04:03 -0500
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: RE: Allaire on a Mac?

 A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less
 than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool?
 Not
 to mention $2500.

 http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/products/model_inspn_1_inspn_8000.htm

 My notebook burns anything in its path.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:49 PM
 Subject: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?


 Does someone still use Mac's?

 grin

 Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good
 reason.

 A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less
 than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool?
 Not
 to mention $2500.

 Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding
my
 breath).

 - Sean


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Re: Allaire on a Mac?

2001-01-23 Thread Nick Slay

hmm, ok.

This was a valid thread when it began, unfortunately being several hours
ahead of you guys in the US, we come in late on these things.

So why penalise me for putting my 2cents in??

This is so common on mailing lists.. and quite frankly I've had enough of
people with their attitudes.   If you didn't like the emails I posted, fair
cop, delete them, you don't have to read them. It's not as if I have been
bombarding the mailing list with innocuous posts, which does seem to happen
considerably.

Signing off yet another list monitored by people more obsessed with
complaining about a post or two rather than hitting the delete key

Nick 'PC-person who loves Macs' S.




 From: "Robert Everland III" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:04:31 -0500
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 Last time I checked this was a CF site. There is a CF-Community for this
 stuff. The reason a lot of tools aren't for Mac is because it isn't as
 popular as PC. Mac people love macs, they have better chips, but they pay
 for them. I don't like Macs, you do. I won't buy one you will. Let's end the
 conversation or move it off of here before you get more flames.
 
 
 
 Bob Everland
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Slay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:52 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 
 Ah... but are you still running windows on it???:^)
 
 And one of the things I failed to mention about my Powerbook is that it has
 wireless networking UNREAL!!  We have two PC's, a G4 Mac and this
 powerbook, and there are no cables between the Mac's and PC's, yet they have
 full network access via wireless networking.
 
 You can't beat some of the Mac OS features for the powerbook... one of my
 favourites being the Location Manager.   I can sit in the office using the
 Airport Wireless Network... walk around the house etc without needing cables
 to be plugged in in order to surf the net, or send emails... I can then go
 out to meetings, and with one click, everything is setup for using the
 modem.   A recent trip to the UK had me doing the same thing... one click,
 and everything configured for connections in the UK.   No reboots, no
 changing IP's etc etc etc...
 
 It's all down to personal preference I guess.. from the experience I had
 with my last PC laptop, I won't ever by another one again.
 
 oh, and by the way... that laptop you give the URL too... still doesn't
 compete with the Powerbooks!!   hehehehehehe
 
 
 From: "Greg Wolfinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:04:03 -0500
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less
 than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool?
 Not
 to mention $2500.
 
 http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/products/model_inspn_1_inspn_8000.htm
 
 My notebook burns anything in its path.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:49 PM
 Subject: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
 
 
 Does someone still use Mac's?
 
 grin
 
 Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good
 reason.
 
 A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less
 than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool?
 Not
 to mention $2500.
 
 Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding
 my
 breath).
 
 - Sean
 
 

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