Re: Allaire on a Mac?
Tacky Nathan, very tacky. For my home network, I have 2 Macs, 1 Athlon and 1 Pentium III. The Pentium and Athlon give me more than 3 times the number of problems that the 2 Macs do. I wish my Wintel machines were half as productive as the Macs. I'd love to be able do most of my coding using one of the G3 Macs. Unfortunately UD for the Mac just doesn't cut it. larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 201 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 x253 fax: (703) 393-2659 http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- Nathan Stanford wrote: Does someone still use Mac's? grin ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
oh no, I see a Win/Mac thread looming.. :- and to answer Nathans Q. you can only wish for OS X to be realeased sooner to finally kill them off (just my $0.02) oh and for Crapscape to go. Utopia indeed. Sorry, couldn't resist it. N ! --- Neil Clark Senior Web Applications Engineer ColdFusion / Spectra / XML mcb digital [Allaire Premier Partner] Tel. +44 (0)20 8941 3232 Tel. +44 (0)20 8408 8131 [Direct] http://www.mcbdigital.com --- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
Doesn't the Mac sport a PC Emulator that is supposed to run and PC application? Why not take the slight performance hit that is supposed to have and run Studio in the virtual PC? Just my two cents. Heath -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 9:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac? Tacky Nathan, very tacky. For my home network, I have 2 Macs, 1 Athlon and 1 Pentium III. The Pentium and Athlon give me more than 3 times the number of problems that the 2 Macs do. I wish my Wintel machines were half as productive as the Macs. I'd love to be able do most of my coding using one of the G3 Macs. Unfortunately UD for the Mac just doesn't cut it. larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 201 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 x253 fax: (703) 393-2659 http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- Nathan Stanford wrote: Does someone still use Mac's? grin ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
For my home network, I have 2 Macs, 1 Athlon and 1 Pentium III. The Pentium and Athlon give me more than 3 times the number of problems that the 2 Macs do. I wish my Wintel machines were half as productive as the Macs. I'd love to be able do most of my coding using one of the G3 Macs. Unfortunately UD for the Mac just doesn't cut it. Yeh, who needs SMP and True Multi Tasking OS's anyway? - Original Message - From: "Larry C. Lyons" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac? Tacky Nathan, very tacky. For my home network, I have 2 Macs, 1 Athlon and 1 Pentium III. The Pentium and Athlon give me more than 3 times the number of problems that the 2 Macs do. I wish my Wintel machines were half as productive as the Macs. I'd love to be able do most of my coding using one of the G3 Macs. Unfortunately UD for the Mac just doesn't cut it. larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 201 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 x253 fax: (703) 393-2659 http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- Nathan Stanford wrote: Does someone still use Mac's? grin ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
WOT: was RE: Allaire on a Mac? now IE v's Mozilla :-)
oh no, I see a Win/Mac thread looming.. Wait here is a Mozilla / IE one to finally kill them off (just my $0.02) oh and for Crapscape to go. Utopia indeed. Anyone who has not tried Mozilla 0.7 should have a look. Finally getting there. Some get features. / V fast SSL etc working Justin in Black Beret mode. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
Unless the new version of VirtualPC (v4?) has improved considerably, its like running a 80mhz Pentium. VPC is good for checking a site but I don't think that its any good for any serious development work. That's why I have CF Studio. larry "Lord, Heath" wrote: Doesn't the Mac sport a PC Emulator that is supposed to run and PC application? Why not take the slight performance hit that is supposed to have and run Studio in the virtual PC? Just my two cents. Heath -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 9:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac? Tacky Nathan, very tacky. For my home network, I have 2 Macs, 1 Athlon and 1 Pentium III. The Pentium and Athlon give me more than 3 times the number of problems that the 2 Macs do. I wish my Wintel machines were half as productive as the Macs. I'd love to be able do most of my coding using one of the G3 Macs. Unfortunately UD for the Mac just doesn't cut it. larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 201 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 x253 fax: (703) 393-2659 http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- Nathan Stanford wrote: Does someone still use Mac's? grin ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
From: "Joby Bednar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey I started on a Mac and still have it sitting on my desk... it's doing a nice job propping up my monitor so it's eye level for when I'm working on my PC... but it's still there! From: "Nathan Stanford" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does someone still use Mac's? What - someone still uses a "PC" ? I thought everyone moved on to a responsible OS, like Unix... -- Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem. Larry W. Virden mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.purl.org/NET/lvirden/ Even if explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should be construed as representing my employer's opinions. -- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF IDE for *nix Mac etc ...was RE: Allaire on a Mac?
To be honest, all I want from an IDE to write code on is the tag/function completion. If someone wants to build this into jedit (or is it already there?) then I would use it. What would be even more useful would be the ability to add in my own tags/functions etc for future use. That way you can make the editor do completion for any language coding you want in the world. Whatever language, the editor helps. Anyone? Paul PS As long as you can turn on and off certain completion schemes, then it would work fantastically well! -Original Message- From: JustinMacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF IDE for *nix Mac etc ...was RE: Allaire on a Mac? Anyone wants a nice cfstudio like IDE for *nix , Mac Windows Sun ?? Check out http://jedit.sourceforge.net don't dismiss it because is java - it's very fast. Make sure you install the plugins (tabs, cmd and project, ftp...) is you want a real cfstudio type interface .. You can customise it (eg add close buffer to right click) I'm working on a DB plugin for it... Justin -Original Message- From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac? I don't know if I'd like CFserver on a Mac or not, but I'd like to see the IDE's (Studio/HomeSite) ported over (to Linux as well, though I know there are some code issues there) -- Billy Cravens HR Web Development, Sabre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Randy Zeitman wrote: Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? -- **This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful musical instrument search engine on the net!** "I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - Zeitman Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
I think this would explain some problems I am having with flash and the mac. On a pc loading variables into a flash movie is a simple process. However for Netscape on a mac I seem to have to set a cookie and read it instead of loading directly from a CF template and I have yet to find a way to get IE on a mac to load variables. Anyone know if I am just doing this wrong? FRAME 1 ACTIONSCRIPT: eof = "0"; loadVariablesNum ("act_cftoken.cfm", 0, "POST"); gotoAndPlay ("Scene 1", "check"); FRAME 2 ("check") if (eof=1) { ifFrameLoaded (6) { gotoAndStop ("Scene 1", 6); } } else if (eof=2) { gotoAndStop ("Scene 1", "doh"); } else { gotoAndPlay ("check"); } So basically what I am doing here is in the first frame I am loading the variables from act_cftoken.cfm below which is basically just cfid and cftoken. I use the variable eof just to tell me that everything else in the string was read. Originally act_cftoken.cfm looked like this: cfinclude template="app_globals.cfm" cfsetting showdebugoutput="no" cfsetting enablecfoutputonly="yes" cfcontent type="text/plain" cfoutputcfid=#trim(cfid)#/cfoutputcfoutputcftoken=#trim(cftoken)#/cf outputcfoutputeof=1/cfoutput but for some reason the same code that worked on a PC wouldn't work on a mac, so I added setclientcookies to my cfapplication tag in app_gobals.cfm and added a check for the cookie's variables of cfid and cftoken in my act_cftoken.cfm ---act_cftoken.cfm--- cfinclude template="app_globals.cfm" cfsetting showdebugoutput="no" cfsetting enablecfoutputonly="yes" cfcontent type="text/plain" cfif isdefined("cookie.cfid") cfoutputcfid=#trim(cookie.cfid)#/cfoutputcfoutputcftoken=#trim(cookie ..cftoken)#/cfoutputcfoutputeof=1/cfoutput cfelseif isdefined("client.cfid") cfoutputcfid=#trim(client.cfid)#/cfoutputcfoutputcftoken=#trim(client ..cftoken)#/cfoutputcfoutputeof=1/cfoutput cfelse cfoutputeof=2/cfoutput /cfif I decided to first look for a cookie since the MAC browsers didn't seem to appreciate my client variables much. So now on the PC (both browsers) and MAC Netscape (cookies enabled) flash loads the variables. And if cookies were not enabled then I would check for client variables at least for PC browsers where cookies were not enabled. This works fine on PC (both browsers) and MAC Netscape as if the cookies are not enabled on MAC Netscape I send them to FRAME 3 ("doh") which basically tells them they need to have their cookies enabled. That is if both of the checks for cfid fail I load eof set to 2 which in the action script above sends them to FRAME 3. At the end of the day, this works fine for everything except MAC IE. I finally gave up and decided to browser check for MAC IE and send them to an DHTML version if that is what they were using. Anyone else run into this problem? Are flash's native binaries creating the problem or am I just doing this ass backwards? - Original Message - From: "Dave Watts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? You can't run generator on a mac? isn't that built on JRUN? What happened to "write once run anywhere"? Generator 2 uses JRun 2 for online generation, but uses native binaries for other things such as offline generation, if I recall correctly. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
I think this would explain some problems I am having with flash and the mac. On a pc loading variables into a flash movie is a simple process. However for Netscape on a mac I seem to have to set a cookie and read it instead of loading directly from a CF template and I have yet to find a way to get IE on a mac to load variables. Anyone know if I am just doing this wrong? I'm no Flash guru - I can spell it, that's about it - but there are known problems with some plugins in some browsers. I can tell you where you can get this answered, though. There's a Flash list run by Branden Hall, a Fig Leaf guy, which covers ActionScript issues quite a bit. It has a moderate amount of traffic, and is generally on-topic. For more info: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/ Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
I doubt it. Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a Macromedia product. Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in left field to me (and I *like* macs). And when I say left field... I mean on Mars. Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform. *** Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then. |-Original Message- |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Allaire on a Mac? | | |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? |-- |**This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful |musical instrument search engine on the net!** | |"I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I |get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - |Zeitman | |Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ |Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
It is actually not that far fetched when one considers what OS X is. Granted its not needed since OS X will be a fringe OS for some time.. But the technical feasability of it is definately easy. In fact I bet you could get it working in OS X with VERY little coding at all. OS X is built on FreeBSD and a BSD kernel which have excellent Linux emulation. Take linux version of CF, run on OS X under emulation. A native port to another Unix is cake, they have three already, HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, moving to a BSD would not be much trouble at all (in relative terms to say porting it to MacOS) OS X *IS* another Unix.. Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I doubt it. Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a Macromedia product. Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in left field to me (and I *like* macs). And when I say left field... I mean on Mars. Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform. *** Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then. |-Original Message- |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Allaire on a Mac? | | |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? |-- |**This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful |musical instrument search engine on the net!** | |"I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I |get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - |Zeitman | |Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ |Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ Or just run linux on your Mac and make it real useful. Dave -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? It is actually not that far fetched when one considers what OS X is. Granted its not needed since OS X will be a fringe OS for some time.. But the technical feasability of it is definately easy. In fact I bet you could get it working in OS X with VERY little coding at all. OS X is built on FreeBSD and a BSD kernel which have excellent Linux emulation. Take linux version of CF, run on OS X under emulation. A native port to another Unix is cake, they have three already, HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, moving to a BSD would not be much trouble at all (in relative terms to say porting it to MacOS) OS X *IS* another Unix.. Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I doubt it. Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a Macromedia product. Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in left field to me (and I *like* macs). And when I say left field... I mean on Mars. Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform. *** Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then. |-Original Message- |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Allaire on a Mac? | | |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? |-- |**This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful |musical instrument search engine on the net!** | |"I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I |get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - |Zeitman | |Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ |Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
At 08:57 AM 1/23/01 -0500, you wrote: Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? We will probably see some studio-like product in the future so integration between the design and the functionality won't require a different OS. Server apps is different. There is a market for a CF Studio or HomeSite for Mac, but not for CF Server for Mac. Of course design doesn't actually *require* Mac, but Mac has definite design advantages. *grumbles that her home computer can't even register a thousand fonts.* Now announcing my newly updated website http://www.blivit.org/mr_urc/index.cfm Resume: http://www.blivit.org/mr_urc/resume.cfm ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
Does someone still use Mac's? grin -Original Message- From: Randy Zeitman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire on a Mac? Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? -- **This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful musical instrument search engine on the net!** "I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - Zeitman Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
I'd say that CF will run on the mac , consider CF5 - Java base Java runs "anywhere" sortof :-) The new MRJ is quite fast. Cf runs on most *nixs MacOSx is pretty much *nix (sort of) Cfstudio is built on delphi Delphi is been ported to *nix (klix) OsX is *nix (sort of ) Justin -Original Message- From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I doubt it. Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a Macromedia product. Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in left field to me (and I *like* macs). And when I say left field... I mean on Mars. Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform. *** Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then. |-Original Message- |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Allaire on a Mac? | | |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? |-- |**This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful |musical instrument search engine on the net!** | |"I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I |get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - |Zeitman | |Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ |Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
Jennifer wrote: At 08:57 AM 1/23/01 -0500, you wrote: Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? We will probably see some studio-like product in the future so integration between the design and the functionality won't require a different OS. I wouldn't count on it. Homesite / CF Studio was coded in Delphi. Is there a mac port of Delphi? Although, my guess is that CF Studio and Ultradev will become one and the same. Is Ultradev available on the mac? -- Jeff Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: Reboog711 | ICQ: 5246969 | Phone: 860-229-2781 -- Instant ColdFusion 4.5 | ISBN: 0-07-213238-8 Due out 3rd Quarter 2001 -- DotComIt, LLC database driven web data using ColdFusion, Lotus Notes/Domino -- Half of the Alternative Folk Duo called Far Cry Fly http://www.farcryfly.com | http://www.mp3.com/FarCryFly -- Promise me no dead end streets, and I'll guarantee we'll have a road ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
Of course... But why would you buy a mac just to run Linux to finally make it useful? G Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: David Livingston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ Or just run linux on your Mac and make it real useful. Dave -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? It is actually not that far fetched when one considers what OS X is. Granted its not needed since OS X will be a fringe OS for some time.. But the technical feasability of it is definately easy. In fact I bet you could get it working in OS X with VERY little coding at all. OS X is built on FreeBSD and a BSD kernel which have excellent Linux emulation. Take linux version of CF, run on OS X under emulation. A native port to another Unix is cake, they have three already, HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, moving to a BSD would not be much trouble at all (in relative terms to say porting it to MacOS) OS X *IS* another Unix.. Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I doubt it. Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a Macromedia product. Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in left field to me (and I *like* macs). And when I say left field... I mean on Mars. Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform. *** Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then. |-Original Message- |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Allaire on a Mac? | | |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? |-- |**This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful |musical instrument search engine on the net!** | |"I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I |get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - |Zeitman | |Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ |Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
Does someone still use Mac's? grin Uh ohyou are gonna hear it now. GL. --=@ greg @=-- - Original Message - From: "Nathan Stanford" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:46 PM Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Does someone still use Mac's? grin -Original Message- From: Randy Zeitman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire on a Mac? Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? -- **This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful musical instrument search engine on the net!** "I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - Zeitman Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
I don't know if I'd like CFserver on a Mac or not, but I'd like to see the IDE's (Studio/HomeSite) ported over (to Linux as well, though I know there are some code issues there) -- Billy Cravens HR Web Development, Sabre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Randy Zeitman wrote: Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? -- **This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful musical instrument search engine on the net!** "I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - Zeitman Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
Another "fun" thought is that.. once your app is compiled to classes it should be moveable to any JVM ;) So.. production wise it should run almost anywhere.. :-P At least in theory..:) Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: JustinMacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I'd say that CF will run on the mac , consider CF5 - Java base Java runs "anywhere" sortof :-) The new MRJ is quite fast. Cf runs on most *nixs MacOSx is pretty much *nix (sort of) Cfstudio is built on delphi Delphi is been ported to *nix (klix) OsX is *nix (sort of ) Justin -Original Message- From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I doubt it. Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a Macromedia product. Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in left field to me (and I *like* macs). And when I say left field... I mean on Mars. Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform. *** Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then. |-Original Message- |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Allaire on a Mac? | | |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? |-- |**This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful |musical instrument search engine on the net!** | |"I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I |get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - |Zeitman | |Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ |Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
I can see the design-time products running on a Mac, but I just don't see the market demand for server side products on the Mac. DC - Original Message - From: "Jeffry Houser" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 15:49 Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac? Jennifer wrote: At 08:57 AM 1/23/01 -0500, you wrote: Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? We will probably see some studio-like product in the future so integration between the design and the functionality won't require a different OS. I wouldn't count on it. Homesite / CF Studio was coded in Delphi. Is there a mac port of Delphi? Although, my guess is that CF Studio and Ultradev will become one and the same. Is Ultradev available on the mac? -- Jeff Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: Reboog711 | ICQ: 5246969 | Phone: 860-229-2781 -- Instant ColdFusion 4.5 | ISBN: 0-07-213238-8 Due out 3rd Quarter 2001 -- DotComIt, LLC database driven web data using ColdFusion, Lotus Notes/Domino -- Half of the Alternative Folk Duo called Far Cry Fly http://www.farcryfly.com | http://www.mp3.com/FarCryFly -- Promise me no dead end streets, and I'll guarantee we'll have a road ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
For my boat anchor :-) Especially the cube! - Original Message - From: "Nathan Stanford" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:46 AM Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Does someone still use Mac's? grin -Original Message- From: Randy Zeitman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire on a Mac? Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? -- **This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful musical instrument search engine on the net!** "I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - Zeitman Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
On 1/23/01, Nathan Stanford penned: Does someone still use Mac's? Hey! I resemble that remark! For all you BBEdit using Macsters out there, I've got a collection of ColdFusion Glossary commands (snippets to you Studio geeks) that I've made over the past couple years. You're welcome to it. :) http://www.twcreations.com/ftp/CF_Glossary.sea.hqx Here is a sampling. Just set up your shortcut keys and go to town. Most, like the ## below, you select the text, hit a key combo and it places the selected text where it should be. ## '##' cfsetting enablecfoutputonly="yes" cfsetting enablecfoutputonly="no" CFLOCATION url="" cfset = "" cfform action="" /cfform cfinput type="Text" name="" required="No" size="20" maxlength="40" input type="hidden" name="" value="" input type="Submit" name="" value="Submit" CFIF IS ""/CFIF CFIF IS ""CFELSE/CFIF HTMLEditFormat() cfswitch expression="##" cfcase value = "" /cfcase cfdefaultcase /cfdefaultcase /cfswitch DateFormat(, "MM/DD/") cfinclude template="" ListGetAt(, ) CreateODBCDate() CFQUERY DATASOURCE="#attributes.DSN#" INSERT INTO () VALUES () /CFQUERY CFQUERY DATASOURCE="#attributes.DSN#" DELETE FROM WHERE /CFQUERY CFQUERY DATASOURCE="#attributes.DSN#" UPDATE SET WHERE /CFQUERY CFQUERY DATASOURCE="#attributes.DSN#" NAME="" SELECT FROM /CFQUERY CFOUTPUT/CFOUTPUT rereplace(, "[^0-9\.]+", "", "ALL") TimeFormat(, "h:mm tt") Trim() cfset myquery = QueryNew("cell1, cell2, etc") cfset temp = QueryAddRow(myquery) cfset temp = QuerySetCell(myquery, "cell", value [,rownumber]) cfloop index="send" list = "#fieldnames#" input type="hidden" name="#send#" value="#evaluate(send)#"/cfloop URLEncodedFormat() -- Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.twcreations.com/ 954.721.3452 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
Does someone still use Mac's? grin Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good reason. A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool? Not to mention $2500. Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding my breath). - Sean ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
CF5 - Java base No, you are thinking on Neo. CF5 will still be based from C. --=@ greg @=-- - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Allen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Another "fun" thought is that.. once your app is compiled to classes it should be moveable to any JVM ;) So.. production wise it should run almost anywhere.. :-P At least in theory..:) Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: JustinMacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I'd say that CF will run on the mac , consider CF5 - Java base Java runs "anywhere" sortof :-) The new MRJ is quite fast. Cf runs on most *nixs MacOSx is pretty much *nix (sort of) Cfstudio is built on delphi Delphi is been ported to *nix (klix) OsX is *nix (sort of ) Justin -Original Message- From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I doubt it. Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a Macromedia product. Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in left field to me (and I *like* macs). And when I say left field... I mean on Mars. Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform. *** Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then. |-Original Message- |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Allaire on a Mac? | | |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? |-- |**This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful |musical instrument search engine on the net!** | |"I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I |get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - |Zeitman | |Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ |Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
How do you do 3 button emulation on a one button Mac Mouse ??? :-) ~Justin Of course... But why would you buy a mac just to run Linux to finally make it useful? G Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: David Livingston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ Or just run linux on your Mac and make it real useful. Dave -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? It is actually not that far fetched when one considers what OS X is. Granted its not needed since OS X will be a fringe OS for some time.. But the technical feasability of it is definately easy. In fact I bet you could get it working in OS X with VERY little coding at all. OS X is built on FreeBSD and a BSD kernel which have excellent Linux emulation. Take linux version of CF, run on OS X under emulation. A native port to another Unix is cake, they have three already, HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, moving to a BSD would not be much trouble at all (in relative terms to say porting it to MacOS) OS X *IS* another Unix.. Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I doubt it. Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a Macromedia product. Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in left field to me (and I *like* macs). And when I say left field... I mean on Mars. Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform. *** Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then. |-Original Message- |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Allaire on a Mac? | | |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? |-- |**This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful |musical instrument search engine on the net!** | |"I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I |get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - |Zeitman | |Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ |Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
Hey I started on a Mac and still have it sitting on my desk... it's doing a nice job propping up my monitor so it's eye level for when I'm working on my PC... but it's still there! Joby Bednar Director of Internet Design iNEOgroup.com -Original Message- From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac? Does someone still use Mac's? grin Uh ohyou are gonna hear it now. GL. --=@ greg @=-- - Original Message - From: "Nathan Stanford" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:46 PM Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Does someone still use Mac's? grin ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF IDE for *nix Mac etc ...was RE: Allaire on a Mac?
Anyone wants a nice cfstudio like IDE for *nix , Mac Windows Sun ?? Check out http://jedit.sourceforge.net don't dismiss it because is java - it's very fast. Make sure you install the plugins (tabs, cmd and project, ftp...) is you want a real cfstudio type interface .. You can customise it (eg add close buffer to right click) I'm working on a DB plugin for it... Justin -Original Message- From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac? I don't know if I'd like CFserver on a Mac or not, but I'd like to see the IDE's (Studio/HomeSite) ported over (to Linux as well, though I know there are some code issues there) -- Billy Cravens HR Web Development, Sabre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Randy Zeitman wrote: Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? -- **This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful musical instrument search engine on the net!** "I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - Zeitman Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
Hold down a control key and click a mouse button.. ;) (any key will do, depending on how you set it up) Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: JustinMacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? How do you do 3 button emulation on a one button Mac Mouse ??? :-) ~Justin Of course... But why would you buy a mac just to run Linux to finally make it useful? G Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: David Livingston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ Or just run linux on your Mac and make it real useful. Dave -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? It is actually not that far fetched when one considers what OS X is. Granted its not needed since OS X will be a fringe OS for some time.. But the technical feasability of it is definately easy. In fact I bet you could get it working in OS X with VERY little coding at all. OS X is built on FreeBSD and a BSD kernel which have excellent Linux emulation. Take linux version of CF, run on OS X under emulation. A native port to another Unix is cake, they have three already, HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, moving to a BSD would not be much trouble at all (in relative terms to say porting it to MacOS) OS X *IS* another Unix.. Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I doubt it. Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a Macromedia product. Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in left field to me (and I *like* macs). And when I say left field... I mean on Mars. Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform. *** Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then. |-Original Message- |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Allaire on a Mac? | | |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? |-- |**This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful |musical instrument search engine on the net!** | |"I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I |get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - |Zeitman | |Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ |Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
Yup, Sorry ;) Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac? CF5 - Java base No, you are thinking on Neo. CF5 will still be based from C. --=@ greg @=-- - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Allen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Another "fun" thought is that.. once your app is compiled to classes it should be moveable to any JVM ;) So.. production wise it should run almost anywhere.. :-P At least in theory..:) Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: JustinMacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I'd say that CF will run on the mac , consider CF5 - Java base Java runs "anywhere" sortof :-) The new MRJ is quite fast. Cf runs on most *nixs MacOSx is pretty much *nix (sort of) Cfstudio is built on delphi Delphi is been ported to *nix (klix) OsX is *nix (sort of ) Justin -Original Message- From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I doubt it. Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a Macromedia product. Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in left field to me (and I *like* macs). And when I say left field... I mean on Mars. Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform. *** Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then. |-Original Message- |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Allaire on a Mac? | | |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? |-- |**This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful |musical instrument search engine on the net!** | |"I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I |get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - |Zeitman | |Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ |Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
A couple of reasons Footprint is smaller than a normal PC. The cube is tiny and runs fast. No annoying fans. The imac and I think the cube have been engineered so that no cooling fans are needed. You get the best of both worlds. There is software that would let you run the Mac OS inside of the yellow dog Linux. So you get all of the great design stuff (like adding tons of fonts) plus the familiar and usefulness of Linux and Linux apps. You could design with the Mac and test using cfserver locally. I know there are a good amount of you using BBedit. Oh yeah, and they look kinda cool. Because, you know, that's the most important part. j/k I'm sure next to none of you would find any of this useful, but there are a few out there. And some might just find it interesting. Sorry for getting so OT. Dave Livingston -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Of course... But why would you buy a mac just to run Linux to finally make it useful? G Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: David Livingston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ Or just run linux on your Mac and make it real useful. Dave -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? It is actually not that far fetched when one considers what OS X is. Granted its not needed since OS X will be a fringe OS for some time.. But the technical feasability of it is definately easy. In fact I bet you could get it working in OS X with VERY little coding at all. OS X is built on FreeBSD and a BSD kernel which have excellent Linux emulation. Take linux version of CF, run on OS X under emulation. A native port to another Unix is cake, they have three already, HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, moving to a BSD would not be much trouble at all (in relative terms to say porting it to MacOS) OS X *IS* another Unix.. Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I doubt it. Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a Macromedia product. Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in left field to me (and I *like* macs). And when I say left field... I mean on Mars. Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform. *** Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then. |-Original Message- |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Allaire on a Mac? | | |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? |-- |**This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful |musical instrument search engine on the net!** | |"I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I |get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - |Zeitman | |Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ |Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
You can't run generator on a mac? isn't that built on JRUN? What happened to "write once run anywhere"? - Original Message - From: "Patricia Lee" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:55 AM Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I doubt it. Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a Macromedia product. Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in left field to me (and I *like* macs). And when I say left field... I mean on Mars. Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform. *** Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then. |-Original Message- |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Allaire on a Mac? | | |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? |-- |**This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful |musical instrument search engine on the net!** | |"I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I |get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - |Zeitman | |Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ |Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool? Not to mention $2500. http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/products/model_inspn_1_inspn_8000.htm My notebook burns anything in its path. - Original Message - From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Does someone still use Mac's? grin Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good reason. A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool? Not to mention $2500. Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding my breath). - Sean ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
The new Mac Optical Mouse has zero buttons... I've always felt that one is not enough, and two is too many... At 6:59 PM + 1/23/01, JustinMacCarthy wrote: How do you do 3 button emulation on a one button Mac Mouse ??? :-) ~Justin ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
I was being facetious :) Note the G... Ive played with PPC hardware Just not enuff software support for stuff *I* personally do. Nuff said ;) Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: David Livingston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? A couple of reasons Footprint is smaller than a normal PC. The cube is tiny and runs fast. No annoying fans. The imac and I think the cube have been engineered so that no cooling fans are needed. You get the best of both worlds. There is software that would let you run the Mac OS inside of the yellow dog Linux. So you get all of the great design stuff (like adding tons of fonts) plus the familiar and usefulness of Linux and Linux apps. You could design with the Mac and test using cfserver locally. I know there are a good amount of you using BBedit. Oh yeah, and they look kinda cool. Because, you know, that's the most important part. j/k I'm sure next to none of you would find any of this useful, but there are a few out there. And some might just find it interesting. Sorry for getting so OT. Dave Livingston -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Of course... But why would you buy a mac just to run Linux to finally make it useful? G Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: David Livingston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ Or just run linux on your Mac and make it real useful. Dave -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? It is actually not that far fetched when one considers what OS X is. Granted its not needed since OS X will be a fringe OS for some time.. But the technical feasability of it is definately easy. In fact I bet you could get it working in OS X with VERY little coding at all. OS X is built on FreeBSD and a BSD kernel which have excellent Linux emulation. Take linux version of CF, run on OS X under emulation. A native port to another Unix is cake, they have three already, HP/UX, Solaris, Linux, moving to a BSD would not be much trouble at all (in relative terms to say porting it to MacOS) OS X *IS* another Unix.. Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -Original Message- From: Patricia Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? I doubt it. Generator Server doesn't work on a Mac, and THAT's a Macromedia product. Besides, extending CF to a Mac Platform just seems WAY out in left field to me (and I *like* macs). And when I say left field... I mean on Mars. Maybe, possibly in the future if the OSX becomes the main mac platform and they can really starte treating the Mac OS more like a *nix platform. *** Maybe *** ... and still I'd say not for a few years even then. |-Original Message- |From: Randy Zeitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:58 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Allaire on a Mac? | | |Anyone have any insight as to whether Allaire's apps will soon run on |Macintosh as a result of the merger with Macromedia? |-- |**This signature sponsored by GuitarList.com - the most powerful |musical instrument search engine on the net!** | |"I've gotten so out of shape sittin' at the computer all day that I |get out of breath when I have to reach for the percent key!" - |Zeitman | |Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ |Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
You can't run generator on a mac? isn't that built on JRUN? What happened to "write once run anywhere"? Generator 2 uses JRun 2 for online generation, but uses native binaries for other things such as offline generation, if I recall correctly. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
I wouldn't count on it. Homesite / CF Studio was coded in Delphi. Is there a mac port of Delphi? Although, my guess is that CF Studio and Ultradev will become one and the same. Is Ultradev available on the mac? YES. I have a copy of it here. All the Macromedia tools are available on the Mac, Fireworks, Flash, Dreamweaver and Ultradev. (not sure about generator though) = Nick Slay Technical Director Webbods Pty Ltd (ACN 086 160 189) PO Box 4047 Copacabana NSW 2251 Tel: 02 4381 0284 Mob: 0414 810284 = Join the BodNews mailing list for News, Announcements and Offers from Webbods. Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'subscribe bodnews' in the subject line. = Proud Sponsors of the Northern Eagles NRL Side 2000!!! ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
And I got one!! hehehhee While being a PC user for ColdFusion development, I use an Apple Powerbook for EVERYTHING else.. mainly because I'm sick and tired of my PC freezing anytime I decide to browse the web or do anything that might tax it's poor little chips!! I have everything I need on this Powerbook, email (care of Outlook Express (and in my opinion far better than the PC equivalent)), browsing (thanks to either IE or Netscape), admin work (MS Office)... and numerous other things... oh like editing video from my Digital Video camera via firewire connection (so cool!). Oh.. and if I want to run any apps that I can't get a Mac version of... then I happen to have VirtualPC running on here too... which is one way around getting ColdFusion working on your Mac!!! :^) And the combined features of the Powerbook and Mac OS blow just about any PC laptop out of the water for a similar price. I would not consider returning to a PC laptop, and I am even considering purchasing the new 700+ Mhz G4 for me new desktop, with a copy of VirtualPC of course. (And before you say.. 700mhz, is that all... these processors are the equivalent of the latest chips from Intel.) Right, that's my 2 cents worth couldn't resist it. From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:49:55 -0500 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Does someone still use Mac's? grin Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good reason. A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool? Not to mention $2500. Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding my breath). - Sean ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
I also have Ultradev v.1 for the mac, unfortunately the odbc connectivity is not available. Shane Witbeck -Original Message- From: Nick Slay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac? I wouldn't count on it. Homesite / CF Studio was coded in Delphi. Is there a mac port of Delphi? Although, my guess is that CF Studio and Ultradev will become one and the same. Is Ultradev available on the mac? YES. I have a copy of it here. All the Macromedia tools are available on the Mac, Fireworks, Flash, Dreamweaver and Ultradev. (not sure about generator though) = Nick Slay Technical Director Webbods Pty Ltd (ACN 086 160 189) PO Box 4047 Copacabana NSW 2251 Tel: 02 4381 0284 Mob: 0414 810284 = Join the BodNews mailing list for News, Announcements and Offers from Webbods. Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'subscribe bodnews' in the subject line. = Proud Sponsors of the Northern Eagles NRL Side 2000!!! ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
for EVERYTHING else.. mainly because I'm sick and tired of my PC freezing anytime I decide to browse the web or do anything that might tax it's poor little chips!! Run Linux or Win2k Pro, then see if your computer crashes. --=@ greg @=-- - Original Message - From: "Nick Slay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:29 PM Subject: Re: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac? And I got one!! hehehhee While being a PC user for ColdFusion development, I use an Apple Powerbook for EVERYTHING else.. mainly because I'm sick and tired of my PC freezing anytime I decide to browse the web or do anything that might tax it's poor little chips!! I have everything I need on this Powerbook, email (care of Outlook Express (and in my opinion far better than the PC equivalent)), browsing (thanks to either IE or Netscape), admin work (MS Office)... and numerous other things... oh like editing video from my Digital Video camera via firewire connection (so cool!). Oh.. and if I want to run any apps that I can't get a Mac version of... then I happen to have VirtualPC running on here too... which is one way around getting ColdFusion working on your Mac!!! :^) And the combined features of the Powerbook and Mac OS blow just about any PC laptop out of the water for a similar price. I would not consider returning to a PC laptop, and I am even considering purchasing the new 700+ Mhz G4 for me new desktop, with a copy of VirtualPC of course. (And before you say.. 700mhz, is that all... these processors are the equivalent of the latest chips from Intel.) Right, that's my 2 cents worth couldn't resist it. From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:49:55 -0500 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Does someone still use Mac's? grin Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good reason. A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool? Not to mention $2500. Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding my breath). - Sean ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac?
Actually, it's not the software in this case, it's the hardware. NT4 does a pretty good job.. but there's something that just dies when ever I try to browse some web sites.. weird stuff a happening... the shop I brought the PC from basically gave up on it!! As for Linux... no thanks. :^) I played with that a while ago, and it frustrated the hell out of me.. I like to be able to use a computer for the job I have to do... and Mac/VirtualPC is a great combination for everything I do, without the dramas of messing with the OpSys. From: "Greg Wolfinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:15:45 -0500 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac? for EVERYTHING else.. mainly because I'm sick and tired of my PC freezing anytime I decide to browse the web or do anything that might tax it's poor little chips!! Run Linux or Win2k Pro, then see if your computer crashes. --=@ greg @=-- - Original Message - From: "Nick Slay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:29 PM Subject: Re: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac? And I got one!! hehehhee While being a PC user for ColdFusion development, I use an Apple Powerbook for EVERYTHING else.. mainly because I'm sick and tired of my PC freezing anytime I decide to browse the web or do anything that might tax it's poor little chips!! I have everything I need on this Powerbook, email (care of Outlook Express (and in my opinion far better than the PC equivalent)), browsing (thanks to either IE or Netscape), admin work (MS Office)... and numerous other things... oh like editing video from my Digital Video camera via firewire connection (so cool!). Oh.. and if I want to run any apps that I can't get a Mac version of... then I happen to have VirtualPC running on here too... which is one way around getting ColdFusion working on your Mac!!! :^) And the combined features of the Powerbook and Mac OS blow just about any PC laptop out of the water for a similar price. I would not consider returning to a PC laptop, and I am even considering purchasing the new 700+ Mhz G4 for me new desktop, with a copy of VirtualPC of course. (And before you say.. 700mhz, is that all... these processors are the equivalent of the latest chips from Intel.) Right, that's my 2 cents worth couldn't resist it. From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:49:55 -0500 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Does someone still use Mac's? grin Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good reason. A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool? Not to mention $2500. Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding my breath). - Sean ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
Ah... but are you still running windows on it???:^) And one of the things I failed to mention about my Powerbook is that it has wireless networking UNREAL!! We have two PC's, a G4 Mac and this powerbook, and there are no cables between the Mac's and PC's, yet they have full network access via wireless networking. You can't beat some of the Mac OS features for the powerbook... one of my favourites being the Location Manager. I can sit in the office using the Airport Wireless Network... walk around the house etc without needing cables to be plugged in in order to surf the net, or send emails... I can then go out to meetings, and with one click, everything is setup for using the modem. A recent trip to the UK had me doing the same thing... one click, and everything configured for connections in the UK. No reboots, no changing IP's etc etc etc... It's all down to personal preference I guess.. from the experience I had with my last PC laptop, I won't ever by another one again. oh, and by the way... that laptop you give the URL too... still doesn't compete with the Powerbooks!! hehehehehehe From: "Greg Wolfinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:04:03 -0500 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Allaire on a Mac? A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool? Not to mention $2500. http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/products/model_inspn_1_inspn_8000.htm My notebook burns anything in its path. - Original Message - From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Does someone still use Mac's? grin Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good reason. A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool? Not to mention $2500. Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding my breath). - Sean ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire on a Mac?
Last time I checked this was a CF site. There is a CF-Community for this stuff. The reason a lot of tools aren't for Mac is because it isn't as popular as PC. Mac people love macs, they have better chips, but they pay for them. I don't like Macs, you do. I won't buy one you will. Let's end the conversation or move it off of here before you get more flames. Bob Everland -Original Message- From: Nick Slay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac? Ah... but are you still running windows on it???:^) And one of the things I failed to mention about my Powerbook is that it has wireless networking UNREAL!! We have two PC's, a G4 Mac and this powerbook, and there are no cables between the Mac's and PC's, yet they have full network access via wireless networking. You can't beat some of the Mac OS features for the powerbook... one of my favourites being the Location Manager. I can sit in the office using the Airport Wireless Network... walk around the house etc without needing cables to be plugged in in order to surf the net, or send emails... I can then go out to meetings, and with one click, everything is setup for using the modem. A recent trip to the UK had me doing the same thing... one click, and everything configured for connections in the UK. No reboots, no changing IP's etc etc etc... It's all down to personal preference I guess.. from the experience I had with my last PC laptop, I won't ever by another one again. oh, and by the way... that laptop you give the URL too... still doesn't compete with the Powerbooks!! hehehehehehe From: "Greg Wolfinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:04:03 -0500 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Allaire on a Mac? A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool? Not to mention $2500. http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/products/model_inspn_1_inspn_8000.htm My notebook burns anything in its path. - Original Message - From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Does someone still use Mac's? grin Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good reason. A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool? Not to mention $2500. Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding my breath). - Sean ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire on a Mac?
hmm, ok. This was a valid thread when it began, unfortunately being several hours ahead of you guys in the US, we come in late on these things. So why penalise me for putting my 2cents in?? This is so common on mailing lists.. and quite frankly I've had enough of people with their attitudes. If you didn't like the emails I posted, fair cop, delete them, you don't have to read them. It's not as if I have been bombarding the mailing list with innocuous posts, which does seem to happen considerably. Signing off yet another list monitored by people more obsessed with complaining about a post or two rather than hitting the delete key Nick 'PC-person who loves Macs' S. From: "Robert Everland III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:04:31 -0500 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Last time I checked this was a CF site. There is a CF-Community for this stuff. The reason a lot of tools aren't for Mac is because it isn't as popular as PC. Mac people love macs, they have better chips, but they pay for them. I don't like Macs, you do. I won't buy one you will. Let's end the conversation or move it off of here before you get more flames. Bob Everland -Original Message- From: Nick Slay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Allaire on a Mac? Ah... but are you still running windows on it???:^) And one of the things I failed to mention about my Powerbook is that it has wireless networking UNREAL!! We have two PC's, a G4 Mac and this powerbook, and there are no cables between the Mac's and PC's, yet they have full network access via wireless networking. You can't beat some of the Mac OS features for the powerbook... one of my favourites being the Location Manager. I can sit in the office using the Airport Wireless Network... walk around the house etc without needing cables to be plugged in in order to surf the net, or send emails... I can then go out to meetings, and with one click, everything is setup for using the modem. A recent trip to the UK had me doing the same thing... one click, and everything configured for connections in the UK. No reboots, no changing IP's etc etc etc... It's all down to personal preference I guess.. from the experience I had with my last PC laptop, I won't ever by another one again. oh, and by the way... that laptop you give the URL too... still doesn't compete with the Powerbooks!! hehehehehehe From: "Greg Wolfinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:04:03 -0500 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Allaire on a Mac? A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool? Not to mention $2500. http://www.dell.com/us/en/dhs/products/model_inspn_1_inspn_8000.htm My notebook burns anything in its path. - Original Message - From: "Sean Daniels" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: OT: RE: Allaire on a Mac? Does someone still use Mac's? grin Would if I could. See http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ for a darn good reason. A fiercly powerful notebook, not to mention the widescreen display, less than 1 inch thick, pure titanium shell, and it looks really really cool? Not to mention $2500. Please macromedia/allaire, give me Mac Studio! (I know, I ain't holding my breath). - Sean ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists