RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
The one you read about ran on maybe 2-4 pcs. I had to slow the latest one down (still macros) because it was more or less a DoS at full speed. That said, explain to me how you could get CF to go faster without killing the server on the receiving end? Doesn't much matter how many threads you have going if the connection on the other end can only handle so much. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout I know that CF would be faster then some crappy macro language running on top of IIS. And even if by some magic it wasn't, there is an implementation somewhere that lets you have multiple threads on a CF page. If I was really worried about performance, I'd just code something up in java with multiple threads that would do the job a lot faster. I doubt that the web server would have trouble keeping up with me, and if it did, I can always throttle back on the # of threads. And I never said he was smart... just maybe smart enough from previous experiences to start logging ips as well... if not, he should be doing it from now on... if he doesn't he's an idiot. So I'd be glad to challenge you if you want, but I assume everyone would agree with me that CFHTTP is faster then some crappy macro language, and that CF with multiple threads beats any macro language hands down. Russ > -Original Message- > From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:55 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > > I'd be glad to challenge you to submit as many entries as fast as I did > with > that method. Not only do you have to worry about tying up your web server, > you'd have to worry about theirs keeping up. > > Ps... if he was smart he'd get a damn job. Besides... multiple IPs were > used > :) > > ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. > Bobby Hartsfield > http://acoderslife.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:19 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > > Hey Bobby, just checked out your site and read the "Gone phishing" > entry... > Just wondering why you didn't just use cfhttp and used MacroExpress > instead? > CFHTTP would be a lot faster, and more efficient, and not require you to > have 3 computer running just to post some data to some scammer's form. > And > if he's smart at all, he's collection source ip addresses and can trash > the > data. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:38 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > > > > > Bobby and I got a good laugh at that > > > > I have no clue what you're talking about. Where does he even have a css > > menu? The only one I recall laughing at lately was yours lol. I'm not > > having > > a 3-way with you 2... stop trying. > > > > ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. > > Bobby Hartsfield > > http://acoderslife.com > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:49 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > > > > Will you need to put a hat on your balding head cause because the chill > > must > > be doing more damage. > > > > Yes there was an issue but since in your old age and receding hair line > > and > > memory seem to forget that the problem was a z-index bug in mac ff which > > isn't a fault of css. > > Crying? Will should I post your 28,459 yahoo im's a day i get from you > > where > > your stolen code don't work and you can't understand why > > > > " Yanno why? Because they just aren't quite THERE yet." > > Umm ok Mr Expert who when asked didn't even know how to make a css > comment > > a > > few days ago so how are you qualified to make this assuming? The fact is > > css > > is fine and the part that's not in the building yet is you. > > > > After I hit community mx? Ok Will, I seem to recall you freaking out > like > > you won the lottery (again) about how your css menu WORKED OMG YOU CANT > > BELIEVE IT WORKED FIRST TIME OMG OMG and it was you who copied and > pasted > > their me
RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
I know that CF would be faster then some crappy macro language running on top of IIS. And even if by some magic it wasn't, there is an implementation somewhere that lets you have multiple threads on a CF page. If I was really worried about performance, I'd just code something up in java with multiple threads that would do the job a lot faster. I doubt that the web server would have trouble keeping up with me, and if it did, I can always throttle back on the # of threads. And I never said he was smart... just maybe smart enough from previous experiences to start logging ips as well... if not, he should be doing it from now on... if he doesn't he's an idiot. So I'd be glad to challenge you if you want, but I assume everyone would agree with me that CFHTTP is faster then some crappy macro language, and that CF with multiple threads beats any macro language hands down. Russ > -Original Message- > From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:55 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > > I'd be glad to challenge you to submit as many entries as fast as I did > with > that method. Not only do you have to worry about tying up your web server, > you'd have to worry about theirs keeping up. > > Ps... if he was smart he'd get a damn job. Besides... multiple IPs were > used > :) > > ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. > Bobby Hartsfield > http://acoderslife.com > > > > -Original Message----- > From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:19 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > > Hey Bobby, just checked out your site and read the "Gone phishing" > entry... > Just wondering why you didn't just use cfhttp and used MacroExpress > instead? > CFHTTP would be a lot faster, and more efficient, and not require you to > have 3 computer running just to post some data to some scammer's form. > And > if he's smart at all, he's collection source ip addresses and can trash > the > data. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:38 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > > > > > Bobby and I got a good laugh at that > > > > I have no clue what you're talking about. Where does he even have a css > > menu? The only one I recall laughing at lately was yours lol. I'm not > > having > > a 3-way with you 2... stop trying. > > > > ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. > > Bobby Hartsfield > > http://acoderslife.com > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:49 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > > > > Will you need to put a hat on your balding head cause because the chill > > must > > be doing more damage. > > > > Yes there was an issue but since in your old age and receding hair line > > and > > memory seem to forget that the problem was a z-index bug in mac ff which > > isn't a fault of css. > > Crying? Will should I post your 28,459 yahoo im's a day i get from you > > where > > your stolen code don't work and you can't understand why > > > > " Yanno why? Because they just aren't quite THERE yet." > > Umm ok Mr Expert who when asked didn't even know how to make a css > comment > > a > > few days ago so how are you qualified to make this assuming? The fact is > > css > > is fine and the part that's not in the building yet is you. > > > > After I hit community mx? Ok Will, I seem to recall you freaking out > like > > you won the lottery (again) about how your css menu WORKED OMG YOU CANT > > BELIEVE IT WORKED FIRST TIME OMG OMG and it was you who copied and > pasted > > their menu into your page, you couldn't even change the colors lol, > Bobby > > and I got a good laugh at that and all your OMG OMG OMG IT WORKED FIRST > > TIMES, which is the only clue we need to know you didn't write it . > > > > " but I'd rather avoid that and drop in a few tables that WORK IN ALL MY > > BROWSERS with no hassle" > > Ok Will, even when you do that they don't work till you spend 3 weeks > > making > > each row color and this is how you are and half-ass everything, maybe if > > you > > took the time to learn some of this stuff (instead of working on > >
RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
I'd be glad to challenge you to submit as many entries as fast as I did with that method. Not only do you have to worry about tying up your web server, you'd have to worry about theirs keeping up. Ps... if he was smart he'd get a damn job. Besides... multiple IPs were used :) ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Hey Bobby, just checked out your site and read the "Gone phishing" entry... Just wondering why you didn't just use cfhttp and used MacroExpress instead? CFHTTP would be a lot faster, and more efficient, and not require you to have 3 computer running just to post some data to some scammer's form. And if he's smart at all, he's collection source ip addresses and can trash the data. > -Original Message- > From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:38 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > > > Bobby and I got a good laugh at that > > I have no clue what you're talking about. Where does he even have a css > menu? The only one I recall laughing at lately was yours lol. I'm not > having > a 3-way with you 2... stop trying. > > ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. > Bobby Hartsfield > http://acoderslife.com > > > > -Original Message----- > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:49 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > > Will you need to put a hat on your balding head cause because the chill > must > be doing more damage. > > Yes there was an issue but since in your old age and receding hair line > and > memory seem to forget that the problem was a z-index bug in mac ff which > isn't a fault of css. > Crying? Will should I post your 28,459 yahoo im's a day i get from you > where > your stolen code don't work and you can't understand why > > " Yanno why? Because they just aren't quite THERE yet." > Umm ok Mr Expert who when asked didn't even know how to make a css comment > a > few days ago so how are you qualified to make this assuming? The fact is > css > is fine and the part that's not in the building yet is you. > > After I hit community mx? Ok Will, I seem to recall you freaking out like > you won the lottery (again) about how your css menu WORKED OMG YOU CANT > BELIEVE IT WORKED FIRST TIME OMG OMG and it was you who copied and pasted > their menu into your page, you couldn't even change the colors lol, Bobby > and I got a good laugh at that and all your OMG OMG OMG IT WORKED FIRST > TIMES, which is the only clue we need to know you didn't write it . > > " but I'd rather avoid that and drop in a few tables that WORK IN ALL MY > BROWSERS with no hassle" > Ok Will, even when you do that they don't work till you spend 3 weeks > making > each row color and this is how you are and half-ass everything, maybe if > you > took the time to learn some of this stuff (instead of working on > i_will_never_be_done_with_this_friggin_cart.cfc) instead of half assin > everything then you'd have more than one (1) client and some of your own > knowledge. Oh and I like how you say "all my browsers" lol, now there is > something to look for in a web developer, well hell it looks good in all > HIS > browsers!!! Well they don't look good in MY browsers and I'm the visitor, > do > you get the difference? > > If you don't understand it that's fine but don't blame it on css blame it > on > yourself, you can look at the csszengardens.com and they look better and > more consistent than any of your table based layouts so they must be using > that ulta-secret magic>css tag > > > "with no hassle" > Do you tell potential clients this? Maybe that's why they don't call you > back > Again this is you half-assing it, I can see you telling your clients that > you will only do the minimum to get by but it will look good on YOUR > browser > This isn't a job to half-ass it, sometimes you need to actually spend > sometime doing what's needs to give them a quality site. And so when you > make these sites, well ok your one site, and the day comes that they want > visitors to be able to view it on their Ipod (since i bet the next ipod > will > have Internet on it) and now they are going to have to remake their site > and > since you half-assed it the first time do you think they are going to come >
RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
Hey Bobby, just checked out your site and read the "Gone phishing" entry... Just wondering why you didn't just use cfhttp and used MacroExpress instead? CFHTTP would be a lot faster, and more efficient, and not require you to have 3 computer running just to post some data to some scammer's form. And if he's smart at all, he's collection source ip addresses and can trash the data. > -Original Message- > From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:38 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > > > Bobby and I got a good laugh at that > > I have no clue what you're talking about. Where does he even have a css > menu? The only one I recall laughing at lately was yours lol. I'm not > having > a 3-way with you 2... stop trying. > > ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. > Bobby Hartsfield > http://acoderslife.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:49 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > > Will you need to put a hat on your balding head cause because the chill > must > be doing more damage. > > Yes there was an issue but since in your old age and receding hair line > and > memory seem to forget that the problem was a z-index bug in mac ff which > isn't a fault of css. > Crying? Will should I post your 28,459 yahoo im's a day i get from you > where > your stolen code don't work and you can't understand why > > " Yanno why? Because they just aren't quite THERE yet." > Umm ok Mr Expert who when asked didn't even know how to make a css comment > a > few days ago so how are you qualified to make this assuming? The fact is > css > is fine and the part that's not in the building yet is you. > > After I hit community mx? Ok Will, I seem to recall you freaking out like > you won the lottery (again) about how your css menu WORKED OMG YOU CANT > BELIEVE IT WORKED FIRST TIME OMG OMG and it was you who copied and pasted > their menu into your page, you couldn't even change the colors lol, Bobby > and I got a good laugh at that and all your OMG OMG OMG IT WORKED FIRST > TIMES, which is the only clue we need to know you didn't write it . > > " but I'd rather avoid that and drop in a few tables that WORK IN ALL MY > BROWSERS with no hassle" > Ok Will, even when you do that they don't work till you spend 3 weeks > making > each row color and this is how you are and half-ass everything, maybe if > you > took the time to learn some of this stuff (instead of working on > i_will_never_be_done_with_this_friggin_cart.cfc) instead of half assin > everything then you'd have more than one (1) client and some of your own > knowledge. Oh and I like how you say "all my browsers" lol, now there is > something to look for in a web developer, well hell it looks good in all > HIS > browsers!!! Well they don't look good in MY browsers and I'm the visitor, > do > you get the difference? > > If you don't understand it that's fine but don't blame it on css blame it > on > yourself, you can look at the csszengardens.com and they look better and > more consistent than any of your table based layouts so they must be using > that ulta-secret magic>css tag > > > "with no hassle" > Do you tell potential clients this? Maybe that's why they don't call you > back > Again this is you half-assing it, I can see you telling your clients that > you will only do the minimum to get by but it will look good on YOUR > browser > This isn't a job to half-ass it, sometimes you need to actually spend > sometime doing what's needs to give them a quality site. And so when you > make these sites, well ok your one site, and the day comes that they want > visitors to be able to view it on their Ipod (since i bet the next ipod > will > have Internet on it) and now they are going to have to remake their site > and > since you half-assed it the first time do you think they are going to come > back to you again? > > And since you try to "mock" what I do then how come everything you do I > can > look at source and see my(yes mine but poorly hacked) code? > > ~Dave the disruptor~ > google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) > http://explorerdestroyer.com/ > http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ > > > From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:27 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF Debuggin
RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
> Bobby and I got a good laugh at that I have no clue what you're talking about. Where does he even have a css menu? The only one I recall laughing at lately was yours lol. I'm not having a 3-way with you 2... stop trying. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Will you need to put a hat on your balding head cause because the chill must be doing more damage. Yes there was an issue but since in your old age and receding hair line and memory seem to forget that the problem was a z-index bug in mac ff which isn't a fault of css. Crying? Will should I post your 28,459 yahoo im's a day i get from you where your stolen code don't work and you can't understand why " Yanno why? Because they just aren't quite THERE yet." Umm ok Mr Expert who when asked didn't even know how to make a css comment a few days ago so how are you qualified to make this assuming? The fact is css is fine and the part that's not in the building yet is you. After I hit community mx? Ok Will, I seem to recall you freaking out like you won the lottery (again) about how your css menu WORKED OMG YOU CANT BELIEVE IT WORKED FIRST TIME OMG OMG and it was you who copied and pasted their menu into your page, you couldn't even change the colors lol, Bobby and I got a good laugh at that and all your OMG OMG OMG IT WORKED FIRST TIMES, which is the only clue we need to know you didn't write it . " but I'd rather avoid that and drop in a few tables that WORK IN ALL MY BROWSERS with no hassle" Ok Will, even when you do that they don't work till you spend 3 weeks making each row color and this is how you are and half-ass everything, maybe if you took the time to learn some of this stuff (instead of working on i_will_never_be_done_with_this_friggin_cart.cfc) instead of half assin everything then you'd have more than one (1) client and some of your own knowledge. Oh and I like how you say "all my browsers" lol, now there is something to look for in a web developer, well hell it looks good in all HIS browsers!!! Well they don't look good in MY browsers and I'm the visitor, do you get the difference? If you don't understand it that's fine but don't blame it on css blame it on yourself, you can look at the csszengardens.com and they look better and more consistent than any of your table based layouts so they must be using that ulta-secret magic>css tag "with no hassle" Do you tell potential clients this? Maybe that's why they don't call you back Again this is you half-assing it, I can see you telling your clients that you will only do the minimum to get by but it will look good on YOUR browser This isn't a job to half-ass it, sometimes you need to actually spend sometime doing what's needs to give them a quality site. And so when you make these sites, well ok your one site, and the day comes that they want visitors to be able to view it on their Ipod (since i bet the next ipod will have Internet on it) and now they are going to have to remake their site and since you half-assed it the first time do you think they are going to come back to you again? And since you try to "mock" what I do then how come everything you do I can look at source and see my(yes mine but poorly hacked) code? ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > heck the last 2 sites i did looked perfect in mac ie without any > tweaks at all, I don't know how you'd know since you don't have a mac. No, I don't remember you whining like a little baby cause your css wouldn't work right. You said oh I got it! Still broke! Menus, layout, everything. Don't be lyin' either, like you never cried about it. Bottom line is css layouts tortured you disruptor! Admit it! They made you pull your hair out quite a few times. Gave you a headache. Yanno why? Because they just aren't quite THERE yet. Almost but not yet. yeah you got yours workin finally after bobby held yer hand, and after you hit communitymx all night long readin' tutorials, but I'd rather avoid that and drop in a few tables that WORK IN ALL MY BROWSERS with no hassle. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229590 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
In talking with the disruptured one, he pointed out a statement that I think he took wrong. And I probably wrote wrong. When I said CSS isn't there yet, I didn't mean CSS sucks, or CSS itself isn't there yet. I mean CSS support isn't there yet, mainly in IE. It really pissed me off to make things look all pretty in FF, then look in IE and it's a mess. I'm done with this thread. Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229588 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
please stop! Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
Could you guys please take this offlist? And yes, I know about filters, the delete button, and what-not, but this discussion has wandered far off topic regardless. There's a great css list at css-discuss.org. Thanks! Mike dave wrote: > Will you need to put a hat on your balding head cause because the chill must > be doing more damage. > > Yes there was an issue but since in your old age and receding hair line and > memory seem to forget that the problem was a z-index bug in mac ff which > isn't a fault of css. > Crying? Will should I post your 28,459 yahoo im's a day i get from you where > your stolen code don't work and you can't understand why > > " Yanno why? Because they just aren't quite THERE yet." > Umm ok Mr Expert who when asked didn't even know how to make a css comment a > few days ago so how are you qualified to make this assuming? The fact is css > is fine and the part that's not in the building yet is you. > > After I hit community mx? Ok Will, I seem to recall you freaking out like you > won the lottery (again) about how your css menu WORKED OMG YOU CANT BELIEVE > IT WORKED FIRST TIME OMG OMG and it was you who copied and pasted their menu > into your page, you couldn't even change the colors lol, Bobby and I got a > good laugh at that and all your OMG OMG OMG IT WORKED FIRST TIMES, which is > the only clue we need to know you didn't write it . > > " but I'd rather avoid that and drop in a few tables that WORK IN ALL MY > BROWSERS with no hassle" > Ok Will, even when you do that they don't work till you spend 3 weeks making > each row color and this is how you are and half-ass everything, maybe if you > took the time to learn some of this stuff (instead of working on > i_will_never_be_done_with_this_friggin_cart.cfc) instead of half assin > everything then you'd have more than one (1) client and some of your own > knowledge. Oh and I like how you say "all my browsers" lol, now there is > something to look for in a web developer, well hell it looks good in all HIS > browsers!!! Well they don't look good in MY browsers and I'm the visitor, do > you get the difference? > > If you don't understand it that's fine but don't blame it on css blame it on > yourself, you can look at the csszengardens.com and they look better and more > consistent than any of your table based layouts so they must be using that > ulta-secret magic>css tag > > "with no hassle" > Do you tell potential clients this? Maybe that's why they don't call you > back > Again this is you half-assing it, I can see you telling your clients that > you will only do the minimum to get by but it will look good on YOUR > browser > This isn't a job to half-ass it, sometimes you need to actually spend > sometime doing what's needs to give them a quality site. And so when you make > these sites, well ok your one site, and the day comes that they want visitors > to be able to view it on their Ipod (since i bet the next ipod will have > Internet on it) and now they are going to have to remake their site and since > you half-assed it the first time do you think they are going to come back to > you again? > > And since you try to "mock" what I do then how come everything you do I can > look at source and see my(yes mine but poorly hacked) code? > > ~Dave the disruptor~ > google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) > http://explorerdestroyer.com/ > http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ > > > From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:27 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > >> heck the last 2 sites i did looked perfect in mac ie without any >> tweaks at all, I don't know how you'd know since you don't have a mac. > > No, I don't remember you whining like a little baby cause your css wouldn't > work right. You said oh I got it! Still broke! Menus, layout, everything. > Don't be lyin' either, like you never cried about it. > > Bottom line is css layouts tortured you disruptor! Admit it! They made you > pull your hair out quite a few times. Gave you a headache. Yanno why? Because > they just aren't quite THERE yet. Almost but not yet. yeah you got yours > workin finally after bobby held yer hand, and after you hit communitymx all > night long readin' tutorials, but I'd rather avoid that and drop in a few > tables that WORK IN ALL MY BROWSERS with no hassle. > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229587 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
Will you need to put a hat on your balding head cause because the chill must be doing more damage. Yes there was an issue but since in your old age and receding hair line and memory seem to forget that the problem was a z-index bug in mac ff which isn't a fault of css. Crying? Will should I post your 28,459 yahoo im's a day i get from you where your stolen code don't work and you can't understand why " Yanno why? Because they just aren't quite THERE yet." Umm ok Mr Expert who when asked didn't even know how to make a css comment a few days ago so how are you qualified to make this assuming? The fact is css is fine and the part that's not in the building yet is you. After I hit community mx? Ok Will, I seem to recall you freaking out like you won the lottery (again) about how your css menu WORKED OMG YOU CANT BELIEVE IT WORKED FIRST TIME OMG OMG and it was you who copied and pasted their menu into your page, you couldn't even change the colors lol, Bobby and I got a good laugh at that and all your OMG OMG OMG IT WORKED FIRST TIMES, which is the only clue we need to know you didn't write it . " but I'd rather avoid that and drop in a few tables that WORK IN ALL MY BROWSERS with no hassle" Ok Will, even when you do that they don't work till you spend 3 weeks making each row color and this is how you are and half-ass everything, maybe if you took the time to learn some of this stuff (instead of working on i_will_never_be_done_with_this_friggin_cart.cfc) instead of half assin everything then you'd have more than one (1) client and some of your own knowledge. Oh and I like how you say "all my browsers" lol, now there is something to look for in a web developer, well hell it looks good in all HIS browsers!!! Well they don't look good in MY browsers and I'm the visitor, do you get the difference? If you don't understand it that's fine but don't blame it on css blame it on yourself, you can look at the csszengardens.com and they look better and more consistent than any of your table based layouts so they must be using that ulta-secret magic>css tag "with no hassle" Do you tell potential clients this? Maybe that's why they don't call you back Again this is you half-assing it, I can see you telling your clients that you will only do the minimum to get by but it will look good on YOUR browser This isn't a job to half-ass it, sometimes you need to actually spend sometime doing what's needs to give them a quality site. And so when you make these sites, well ok your one site, and the day comes that they want visitors to be able to view it on their Ipod (since i bet the next ipod will have Internet on it) and now they are going to have to remake their site and since you half-assed it the first time do you think they are going to come back to you again? And since you try to "mock" what I do then how come everything you do I can look at source and see my(yes mine but poorly hacked) code? ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ ------------ From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > heck the last 2 sites i did looked perfect in mac ie without any > tweaks at all, I don't know how you'd know since you don't have a mac. No, I don't remember you whining like a little baby cause your css wouldn't work right. You said oh I got it! Still broke! Menus, layout, everything. Don't be lyin' either, like you never cried about it. Bottom line is css layouts tortured you disruptor! Admit it! They made you pull your hair out quite a few times. Gave you a headache. Yanno why? Because they just aren't quite THERE yet. Almost but not yet. yeah you got yours workin finally after bobby held yer hand, and after you hit communitymx all night long readin' tutorials, but I'd rather avoid that and drop in a few tables that WORK IN ALL MY BROWSERS with no hassle. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229586 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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> heck the last 2 sites i did looked perfect in mac ie without any > tweaks at all, I don't know how you'd know since you don't have a mac. No, I don't remember you whining like a little baby cause your css wouldn't work right. You said oh I got it! Still broke! Menus, layout, everything. Don't be lyin' either, like you never cried about it. Bottom line is css layouts tortured you disruptor! Admit it! They made you pull your hair out quite a few times. Gave you a headache. Yanno why? Because they just aren't quite THERE yet. Almost but not yet. yeah you got yours workin finally after bobby held yer hand, and after you hit communitymx all night long readin' tutorials, but I'd rather avoid that and drop in a few tables that WORK IN ALL MY BROWSERS with no hassle. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229576 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
Kay Smoljak wrote: > On 1/14/06, Stan Winchester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I am slowing making the change over to CSS layouts but I noticed when I use >> CSS layouts I cannot view my CF debugging because it is overlapped with the >> CSS layout. How do others deal with CF debugging and CSS? > > The problem is probably that you are using lots of "position:absolute" > in your layouts. When items are positioned in this way, they are > "taken out of the document flow" meaning that subsequent items don't > even know that they are there, resulting in elements overlapping each > other. If that is the case, a quick fix would be to modify the debugging template to have a high Z-index. Jochem ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229574 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
On 1/14/06, Stan Winchester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am slowing making the change over to CSS layouts but I noticed when I use > CSS layouts I cannot view my CF debugging because it is overlapped with the > CSS layout. How do others deal with CF debugging and CSS? The problem is probably that you are using lots of "position:absolute" in your layouts. When items are positioned in this way, they are "taken out of the document flow" meaning that subsequent items don't even know that they are there, resulting in elements overlapping each other. For a really good explanation of the behaviour of elements in CSS-P, try http://www.brainjar.com/css/positioning/ Absolute positioning can be useful for putting elements on top of each other, but is rarely a good solution for an entire layout. Because it seems so easy to start with, many developers new to CSS layouts tend to use absolute positioning and then get very frustrated. Rather than using position:absolute, try using floated elements and maybe some position:relative instead. Better yet, rather than trying to reinvent the wheel, start with one of the pre-built layouts on http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssLayouts and change it to suit your requirements. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/ http://kay.zombiecoder.com/ http://goatlady.wordpress.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229573 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Regardless of what Sam tells you... not every woman wants her man to douche. Couple more posts and we will out rank the Napoleon Dynamite, Bobbies, men vs women kitchen duty thread as the all time most OFF topic, dumbest thread ever. (we only need half as much since this one involves CSS vs Tables and Will) ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229570 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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lol hey now there is nothing wrong with a clean bung hole!!! ask your wife, I'm sure she'd appriciate it if you cleaned yours too ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Don't you have a colon hydrotherapeutic session you're late for or something? ...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout lol, hey don't be mad at me cause god short changed ya in the manhood department! Ok we need a name 4 u, Will already is captain lil stick, so hu ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Everyone set up your junk mail filters to auto forward to dave. Half of them probably came from him anyway. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Well Bobby, if it makes u feel better to think that, then ok I will forward u some of my spam to help u out ;)~ ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > i dont swing that way!! Don't beat yourself up about it... size isn't everything ;-) ...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout lol thats Wills thing, i dont swing that way!! ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ ------------ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Hey... I'm sitting this one out... don't drag me into it... you 2 should get a room already. (or meet at a rest area or something) .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229569 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Don't you have a colon hydrotherapeutic session you're late for or something? ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout lol, hey don't be mad at me cause god short changed ya in the manhood department! Ok we need a name 4 u, Will already is captain lil stick, so hu ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Everyone set up your junk mail filters to auto forward to dave. Half of them probably came from him anyway. :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Well Bobby, if it makes u feel better to think that, then ok I will forward u some of my spam to help u out ;)~ ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > i dont swing that way!! Don't beat yourself up about it... size isn't everything ;-) ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout lol thats Wills thing, i dont swing that way!! ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Hey... I'm sitting this one out... don't drag me into it... you 2 should get a room already. (or meet at a rest area or something) :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229568 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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lol, hey don't be mad at me cause god short changed ya in the manhood department! Ok we need a name 4 u, Will already is captain lil stick, so hu ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Everyone set up your junk mail filters to auto forward to dave. Half of them probably came from him anyway. ...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Well Bobby, if it makes u feel better to think that, then ok I will forward u some of my spam to help u out ;)~ ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > i dont swing that way!! Don't beat yourself up about it... size isn't everything ;-) .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout lol thats Wills thing, i dont swing that way!! ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Hey... I'm sitting this one out... don't drag me into it... you 2 should get a room already. (or meet at a rest area or something) ...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229567 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Everyone set up your junk mail filters to auto forward to dave. Half of them probably came from him anyway. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Well Bobby, if it makes u feel better to think that, then ok I will forward u some of my spam to help u out ;)~ ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > i dont swing that way!! Don't beat yourself up about it... size isn't everything ;-) :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout lol thats Wills thing, i dont swing that way!! ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Hey... I'm sitting this one out... don't drag me into it... you 2 should get a room already. (or meet at a rest area or something) ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229566 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Yeah. Id hate to miss the "Enlarging revolution" ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Well Bobby, if it makes u feel better to think that, then ok I will forward u some of my spam to help u out ;)~ ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > i dont swing that way!! Don't beat yourself up about it... size isn't everything ;-) :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout lol thats Wills thing, i dont swing that way!! ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Hey... I'm sitting this one out... don't drag me into it... you 2 should get a room already. (or meet at a rest area or something) ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229565 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Well Bobby, if it makes u feel better to think that, then ok I will forward u some of my spam to help u out ;)~ ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > i dont swing that way!! Don't beat yourself up about it... size isn't everything ;-) ...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout lol thats Wills thing, i dont swing that way!! ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Hey... I'm sitting this one out... don't drag me into it... you 2 should get a room already. (or meet at a rest area or something) .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229564 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
> i dont swing that way!! Don't beat yourself up about it... size isn't everything ;-) ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout lol thats Wills thing, i dont swing that way!! ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Hey... I'm sitting this one out... don't drag me into it... you 2 should get a room already. (or meet at a rest area or something) :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229563 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
lol thats Wills thing, i dont swing that way!! ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Bobby Hartsfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Hey... I'm sitting this one out... don't drag me into it... you 2 should get a room already. (or meet at a rest area or something) ...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229562 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
Ok... so I stayed out of it with the FIRST half of that message... ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Hey... I'm sitting this one out... don't drag me into it... you 2 should get a room already. (or meet at a rest area or something) ...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout LOL, is that where your hair went will? I don't know how you get so frusterated by copy & pasting my code, umm well ok maybe I do lol The debugging isnt the problem, the problem is between the screen and the chair. If you don't know how all the css works then my best suggestion to see the debugging is to make a div and wrap it around your debugging code and make the div "box like" so it really sticks out and place it wherever you want or even do a show/hide with it to open it when you need to and pop out on top like an alertbox, you can even go further and do a cfif and if its running in your webroot on dev computer to make it available. Will, you don't like css now because you don't understand it, same as your feelings with cfscript but once you get it, you get all happy and then can take a break and glue some of that hair back on your head. I dont know why u pull your hair out anyways, all do is go ask bobby or me and we fix it 4 u lol ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout >I am slowing making the change over to CSS layouts but I noticed when I use >CSS layouts I cannot view my CF debugging because it is overlapped with the >CSS layout. How do others deal with CF debugging and CSS? yeah I ran into the same problem. Just another reason I dislike css layouts right now. They make you pull your hair out in so many ways! Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229561 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
Hey... I'm sitting this one out... don't drag me into it... you 2 should get a room already. (or meet at a rest area or something) ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout LOL, is that where your hair went will? I don't know how you get so frusterated by copy & pasting my code, umm well ok maybe I do lol The debugging isnt the problem, the problem is between the screen and the chair. If you don't know how all the css works then my best suggestion to see the debugging is to make a div and wrap it around your debugging code and make the div "box like" so it really sticks out and place it wherever you want or even do a show/hide with it to open it when you need to and pop out on top like an alertbox, you can even go further and do a cfif and if its running in your webroot on dev computer to make it available. Will, you don't like css now because you don't understand it, same as your feelings with cfscript but once you get it, you get all happy and then can take a break and glue some of that hair back on your head. I dont know why u pull your hair out anyways, all do is go ask bobby or me and we fix it 4 u lol ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout >I am slowing making the change over to CSS layouts but I noticed when I use >CSS layouts I cannot view my CF debugging because it is overlapped with the >CSS layout. How do others deal with CF debugging and CSS? yeah I ran into the same problem. Just another reason I dislike css layouts right now. They make you pull your hair out in so many ways! Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229560 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
> no u didnt lol > U tried for like 30 minutes then gave up because I wouldnt help u > anymore lol and put tables in instead ahhh... those tables worked beautifully! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229559 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
no u didnt lol U tried for like 30 minutes then gave up because I wouldnt help u anymore lol and put tables in instead ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > U have never built a css layout Will so how can you say this? Built the coldfusion gear site from scratch, all css layout. Even built the product rows just like table rows, all in css. Things got screwy afterwhile so now it's a table layout. And hey, it displays correctly! I know you have alzheimer's, but I didnt know it was THAT bad dude. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229557 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
heck the last 2 sites i did looked perfect in mac ie without any tweaks at all, I don't know how you'd know since you don't have a mac. ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: "Dawson, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout "They" meaning every damn browser manufacturer. -Original Message- From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Who is the "they" that you're waiting for? Microsoft just dropped Mac IE, so that situation will never change. - Original Message - From: "Will Tomlinson" To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > >And nested table based layouts don't??? :) > > No, they don't, not like CSS. I build a css layout, and gotta start > hackin' crap all over the place to make it work in a few different > browsers? Then it won't show up at all in MAC IE? And it all validates? > Screw that! > > I'll keep usin' tables or a css/table combo until they get things > squared away. > > Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229556 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
> U have never built a css layout Will so how can you say this? Built the coldfusion gear site from scratch, all css layout. Even built the product rows just like table rows, all in css. Things got screwy afterwhile so now it's a table layout. And hey, it displays correctly! I know you have alzheimer's, but I didnt know it was THAT bad dude. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229554 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
"They" meaning every damn browser manufacturer. -Original Message- From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout Who is the "they" that you're waiting for? Microsoft just dropped Mac IE, so that situation will never change. - Original Message - From: "Will Tomlinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > >And nested table based layouts don't??? :) > > No, they don't, not like CSS. I build a css layout, and gotta start > hackin' crap all over the place to make it work in a few different > browsers? Then it won't show up at all in MAC IE? And it all validates? > Screw that! > > I'll keep usin' tables or a css/table combo until they get things > squared away. > > Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229553 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
U have never built a css layout Will so how can you say this? ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout >And nested table based layouts don't??? :) No, they don't, not like CSS. I build a css layout, and gotta start hackin' crap all over the place to make it work in a few different browsers? Then it won't show up at all in MAC IE? And it all validates? Screw that! I'll keep usin' tables or a css/table combo until they get things squared away. Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229552 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
LOL, is that where your hair went will? I don't know how you get so frusterated by copy & pasting my code, umm well ok maybe I do lol The debugging isnt the problem, the problem is between the screen and the chair. If you don't know how all the css works then my best suggestion to see the debugging is to make a div and wrap it around your debugging code and make the div "box like" so it really sticks out and place it wherever you want or even do a show/hide with it to open it when you need to and pop out on top like an alertbox, you can even go further and do a cfif and if its running in your webroot on dev computer to make it available. Will, you don't like css now because you don't understand it, same as your feelings with cfscript but once you get it, you get all happy and then can take a break and glue some of that hair back on your head. I dont know why u pull your hair out anyways, all do is go ask bobby or me and we fix it 4 u lol ~Dave the disruptor~ google will pay you money to getting rid of ie :) http://explorerdestroyer.com/ http://www.killbillsbrowser.com/ From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout >I am slowing making the change over to CSS layouts but I noticed when I use >CSS layouts I cannot view my CF debugging because it is overlapped with the >CSS layout. How do others deal with CF debugging and CSS? yeah I ran into the same problem. Just another reason I dislike css layouts right now. They make you pull your hair out in so many ways! Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229551 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
Who is the "they" that you're waiting for? Microsoft just dropped Mac IE, so that situation will never change. - Original Message - From: "Will Tomlinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout > >And nested table based layouts don't??? :) > > No, they don't, not like CSS. I build a css layout, and gotta start > hackin' crap all over the place to make it work in a few different > browsers? Then it won't show up at all in MAC IE? And it all validates? > Screw that! > > I'll keep usin' tables or a css/table combo until they get things > squared away. > > Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229549 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
>And nested table based layouts don't??? :) No, they don't, not like CSS. I build a css layout, and gotta start hackin' crap all over the place to make it work in a few different browsers? Then it won't show up at all in MAC IE? And it all validates? Screw that! I'll keep usin' tables or a css/table combo until they get things squared away. Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229546 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
> Subject: CF Debugging & CSS Layout From: "Stan Winchester" > I am slowing making the change over to CSS layouts but I noticed > when I use CSS layouts I cannot view my CF debugging because it is > overlapped with the CSS layout. How do others deal with CF > debugging and CSS? I'm working on a XHTML Transitional site done in CSS and Fusebox and my debugging output appears below all other content? You may just have an issue with your CSS. If you use Firefox - install the DeveloperToolbar http://chrispederick.com/work/webdeveloper/ You can then display outline your page elements and maybe see where things are going wrong. > Subject: CF Debugging & CSS Layout From: Will Tomlinson > yeah I ran into the same problem. Just another reason I dislike css > layouts right now. They make you pull your hair out in so many ways! And nested table based layouts don't??? :) Jim ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229545 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF Debugging & CSS Layout
>I am slowing making the change over to CSS layouts but I noticed when I use >CSS layouts I cannot view my CF debugging because it is overlapped with the >CSS layout. How do others deal with CF debugging and CSS? yeah I ran into the same problem. Just another reason I dislike css layouts right now. They make you pull your hair out in so many ways! Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229544 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
