RE: Coldfuion Life Spam
I meant a trolling post ;-) LOL Not andy! -Original Message- From: Nathan Strutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2006 18:06 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfuion Life Spam Oh that's not nice at all. Andy's no troll! Asked by a lesser-known CFer, and in a more cynical or doomed tone, you could get away with saying that, but since neither are true, your message is more of a troll than the original. Andy, I hope you've got enough ammo. I know what it's like to work in an office where CF is constantly under attack and everything competing is constantly under review. CF's cool new features and RAD development consistently keep it head and shoulders above everything else for me. HTH. -nathan strutz http://www.dopefly.com/ On 1/27/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Troll. -Original Message- From: Andy Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thu Jan 26 10:54:25 2006 Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion. I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this company to stop there fears. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230723 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfuion Life Spam
I fail to understand why these posts were directed at me. All I wanted was for people to stop jumping on the original poster's back just because he asked for concrete evidence. The guy needed some real evidence he could take to his superiors and people yelled at him for starting a thread in which they were not interested. That's it; nothing more. I'm not an alarmist and I don't believe, for even one second that it's going anywhere. I just can't stand the list-nazis who flame people for starting certain topics. --Ferg Tony wrote: +100 and one other option, open source it. hell, id go so far as to say if it went open source, and a REAL group of folks collabo'd on it, it would maybe even become stronger. not that macrodobeans arent good, but adobe cannot hire EVERY good developer out there. so that big collabo'd version might be even cooler :) again, id say, no worries, its been no worries for me for quite some time! tw On 1/29/06, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken, consider it this way Suppose for the sake of argument that Adobe decided that CF wasnt really the kind of product they could make the most of. They wouldn't just abandon it. It has a value, has a revenue stream. It has a customer base and has plenty of developers building in it. If Adobe didnt want it (and I also agree its far more likely they want to use CF to take Adobe into areas they couldnt get to before) they would be much more likely to sell it off as a business to someone else. There would be lots of options in this area - a management buyout, sale to a competitor, sale to another company wanting to move in the server direction. If they sold ColdFusion to someone else, it would still be a viable option for your site. Whoever did buy it would want to make it grow and develop. As an Adobe product or as someone else's, ColdFusion is good for us all. It would only be a disaster for your OP If Adobe said 'that's it! ColdFusion is dead - we're writing off our investment in it and will provide no more support for it. And it's not for sale to anyone else either.I think that's about as likely as George W Bush appearing in a pink tutu for the next State Of the Union address. And even in that unlikely event, there's Blue Dragon who have already said if Adobe didnt want coldfusion they'll be there saying Me Me Me Me Let ME have it!! Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 1/27/06, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OP said that *HE KNEW* CF wasn't going anywhere, but is looking for actual evidence to present to others in his organization to assuage their fears. If you're gonna whine about message bloat, then you can either shut up or offer some helpful link containing information backing up his position. The OP is in a situation where he's trying to keep things oriented to CF in his company. He simply needs ammunition with which to load the weapon. That certainly seems like a topic of value for this list to me. Why is it that some of you people seem to think only the specific messages that interest you are on topic or are worthy of the list? --Ferg ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230761 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfuion Life Spam
Ken, consider it this way Suppose for the sake of argument that Adobe decided that CF wasnt really the kind of product they could make the most of. They wouldn't just abandon it. It has a value, has a revenue stream. It has a customer base and has plenty of developers building in it. If Adobe didnt want it (and I also agree its far more likely they want to use CF to take Adobe into areas they couldnt get to before) they would be much more likely to sell it off as a business to someone else. There would be lots of options in this area - a management buyout, sale to a competitor, sale to another company wanting to move in the server direction. If they sold ColdFusion to someone else, it would still be a viable option for your site. Whoever did buy it would want to make it grow and develop. As an Adobe product or as someone else's, ColdFusion is good for us all. It would only be a disaster for your OP If Adobe said 'that's it! ColdFusion is dead - we're writing off our investment in it and will provide no more support for it. And it's not for sale to anyone else either.I think that's about as likely as George W Bush appearing in a pink tutu for the next State Of the Union address. And even in that unlikely event, there's Blue Dragon who have already said if Adobe didnt want coldfusion they'll be there saying Me Me Me Me Let ME have it!! Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 1/27/06, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OP said that *HE KNEW* CF wasn't going anywhere, but is looking for actual evidence to present to others in his organization to assuage their fears. If you're gonna whine about message bloat, then you can either shut up or offer some helpful link containing information backing up his position. The OP is in a situation where he's trying to keep things oriented to CF in his company. He simply needs ammunition with which to load the weapon. That certainly seems like a topic of value for this list to me. Why is it that some of you people seem to think only the specific messages that interest you are on topic or are worthy of the list? --Ferg ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230714 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfuion Life Spam
+100 and one other option, open source it. hell, id go so far as to say if it went open source, and a REAL group of folks collabo'd on it, it would maybe even become stronger. not that macrodobeans arent good, but adobe cannot hire EVERY good developer out there. so that big collabo'd version might be even cooler :) again, id say, no worries, its been no worries for me for quite some time! tw On 1/29/06, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken, consider it this way Suppose for the sake of argument that Adobe decided that CF wasnt really the kind of product they could make the most of. They wouldn't just abandon it. It has a value, has a revenue stream. It has a customer base and has plenty of developers building in it. If Adobe didnt want it (and I also agree its far more likely they want to use CF to take Adobe into areas they couldnt get to before) they would be much more likely to sell it off as a business to someone else. There would be lots of options in this area - a management buyout, sale to a competitor, sale to another company wanting to move in the server direction. If they sold ColdFusion to someone else, it would still be a viable option for your site. Whoever did buy it would want to make it grow and develop. As an Adobe product or as someone else's, ColdFusion is good for us all. It would only be a disaster for your OP If Adobe said 'that's it! ColdFusion is dead - we're writing off our investment in it and will provide no more support for it. And it's not for sale to anyone else either.I think that's about as likely as George W Bush appearing in a pink tutu for the next State Of the Union address. And even in that unlikely event, there's Blue Dragon who have already said if Adobe didnt want coldfusion they'll be there saying Me Me Me Me Let ME have it!! Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 1/27/06, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OP said that *HE KNEW* CF wasn't going anywhere, but is looking for actual evidence to present to others in his organization to assuage their fears. If you're gonna whine about message bloat, then you can either shut up or offer some helpful link containing information backing up his position. The OP is in a situation where he's trying to keep things oriented to CF in his company. He simply needs ammunition with which to load the weapon. That certainly seems like a topic of value for this list to me. Why is it that some of you people seem to think only the specific messages that interest you are on topic or are worthy of the list? --Ferg ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230715 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfuion Life Spam
Troll. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Andy Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thu Jan 26 10:54:25 2006 Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion. I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this company to stop there fears. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230575 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Oh that's not nice at all. Andy's no troll! Asked by a lesser-known CFer, and in a more cynical or doomed tone, you could get away with saying that, but since neither are true, your message is more of a troll than the original. Andy, I hope you've got enough ammo. I know what it's like to work in an office where CF is constantly under attack and everything competing is constantly under review. CF's cool new features and RAD development consistently keep it head and shoulders above everything else for me. HTH. -nathan strutz http://www.dopefly.com/ On 1/27/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Troll. -Original Message- From: Andy Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thu Jan 26 10:54:25 2006 Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion. I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this company to stop there fears. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230611 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfuion Life Spam
Advise them not to build a company strategy on rumors and press releases? On 1/26/06, Andy Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion. I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this company to stop there fears. -- Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The less you know, the more you believe. - U2, Last Night On Earth ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230619 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfuion Life Spam
Yeah, a boot in the hole! Opps, did I say that out loud?! :Oo Here's something: http://www.fusionauthority.com/News/Article.cfm/ArticleID:4579 Check the Breeze presentation, link at the bottom of the page. Ade -Original Message- From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2006 10:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion. I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this company to stop there fears. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230468 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfuion Life Spam
Bull. If anything it is Flash which should be worried what with Vista and the foundation subsystem fast approaching. -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2006 11:58 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam Yeah, a boot in the hole! Opps, did I say that out loud?! :Oo Here's something: http://www.fusionauthority.com/News/Article.cfm/ArticleID:4579 Check the Breeze presentation, link at the bottom of the page. Ade -Original Message- From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2006 10:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion. I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this company to stop there fears. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230469 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfuion Life Spam
LOL... you must be joking because that's truly the most ridiculous thing I've heard in months. Flash is a big reason that merger even took place. !k -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 26, 2006 6:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam Bull. If anything it is Flash which should be worried what with Vista and the foundation subsystem fast approaching. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230480 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfuion Life Spam
Nah, not what I meant :-) I mean MS are producing their Flash Killer only time will tell. -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2006 15:20 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam LOL... you must be joking because that's truly the most ridiculous thing I've heard in months. Flash is a big reason that merger even took place. !k -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 26, 2006 6:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam Bull. If anything it is Flash which should be worried what with Vista and the foundation subsystem fast approaching. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230481 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfuion Life Spam
andy. adobe is the platinum sponsor for cfunited. if they were planning to say good bye to that server technology do you think for one second they would be doing that? the best thing you can do is to quell the rumors and thoughts that people in your company have. they will not be killing coldfusion, man, come on. tw On 1/26/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL... you must be joking because that's truly the most ridiculous thing I've heard in months. Flash is a big reason that merger even took place. !k -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 26, 2006 6:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam Bull. If anything it is Flash which should be worried what with Vista and the foundation subsystem fast approaching. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230482 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfuion Life Spam
Even if Adobe did kill off Coldfusion server, it wouldn't really matter cozz we still have BlueDragon. Russ -Original Message- From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2006 10:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion. I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this company to stop there fears. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230483 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfuion Life Spam
and jesus freakin christ, this thread happens too much, its pointless and will do nothing, but cause over bloat of messages on this list. its not going away, its not going away... please stop this thread. tony On 1/26/06, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if Adobe did kill off Coldfusion server, it wouldn't really matter cozz we still have BlueDragon. Russ -Original Message- From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2006 10:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion. I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this company to stop there fears. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230486 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfuion Life Spam
How did I know the flash geek in the group would have to reply to that? -e -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam LOL... you must be joking because that's truly the most ridiculous thing I've heard in months. Flash is a big reason that merger even took place. !k -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 26, 2006 6:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam Bull. If anything it is Flash which should be worried what with Vista and the foundation subsystem fast approaching. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230487 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfuion Life Spam
I've just spotted this, http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1914903,00.asp Ok Flash is platform independent but it looks like Central will need to come up to speed to catch some of this. As far as I'm concerned CF is safe and Flash will be save for the foreseeable future as most won't upgrade to vista until SP1/2 and may be 3 Just my 2pence worth Cheers -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2006 15:20 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam LOL... you must be joking because that's truly the most ridiculous thing I've heard in months. Flash is a big reason that merger even took place. !k -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 26, 2006 6:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam Bull. If anything it is Flash which should be worried what with Vista and the foundation subsystem fast approaching. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230489 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfuion Life Spam
-Original Message- From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2006 10:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion. I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this company to stop there fears. Andy, Take a look at this entry and realize that any statements made about any Macromedia/Adobe product before next Tuesday is completely and entirely base-less: http://www.cbetta.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/1/25/Adobe-To-Webcast-Key-Analyst-Meeting Regards, Dave. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230488 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this company to stop there fears. No, probably not. But this is true of almost any product. Since Adobe didn't have anything similar to CF before the merger, and they need server-side products to provide complete solutions, I don't see CF going away anytime soon. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230490 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfuion Life Spam
LOL... Am I that predictable? !k -Original Message- From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 26, 2006 9:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam How did I know the flash geek in the group would have to reply to that? -e -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam LOL... you must be joking because that's truly the most ridiculous thing I've heard in months. Flash is a big reason that merger even took place. !k -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 26, 2006 6:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam Bull. If anything it is Flash which should be worried what with Vista and the foundation subsystem fast approaching. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230492 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfuion Life Spam
Especially considering that Coldfusion is really starting to not only gain some serious momentum, but also integrating some really great features that marry well with the Adobe Print philosophy. Even though I don't like the Adobe programming (Illustrator is a friggin' hog), I do respect the innovations they've brought to design over the last 5 years. I'm sure they have some ideas for the lineup... @@ -- My 2 worthless CDN cents !k -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 26, 2006 9:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this company to stop there fears. No, probably not. But this is true of almost any product. Since Adobe didn't have anything similar to CF before the merger, and they need server-side products to provide complete solutions, I don't see CF going away anytime soon. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230493 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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The OP said that *HE KNEW* CF wasn't going anywhere, but is looking for actual evidence to present to others in his organization to assuage their fears. If you're gonna whine about message bloat, then you can either shut up or offer some helpful link containing information backing up his position. The OP is in a situation where he's trying to keep things oriented to CF in his company. He simply needs ammunition with which to load the weapon. That certainly seems like a topic of value for this list to me. Why is it that some of you people seem to think only the specific messages that interest you are on topic or are worthy of the list? --Ferg Tony wrote: and jesus freakin christ, this thread happens too much, its pointless and will do nothing, but cause over bloat of messages on this list. its not going away, its not going away... please stop this thread. tony On 1/26/06, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if Adobe did kill off Coldfusion server, it wouldn't really matter cozz we still have BlueDragon. Russ -Original Message- From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2006 10:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion. I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this company to stop there fears. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230499 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Why is it that some of you people seem to think only the specific messages that interest you are on topic or are worthy of the list? --Ferg Yes your situation is validyou just need to understand that the CF is dying therad has circulated an untold number of times on this list ;-) Sure makes my skin crawl when I see this alarmist BS show up (not saying you're the alarmist).but I see your need for an answer. I doubt VERY much you'll find the fact based ammunition you are looking for. If anyone other than Adobe/MM insiders knew the direction the company will take CF...well they'd be able to see the future and should be off betting on the horses ;-) Good luck Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230502 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Heh I just had lunch with our new adobe sales rep. he was talking about learning about CF. Now honestly if they're going to get rid of it why would they be training thier Adobe sales reps on it??? If you want to qualle fears call your regional Sales rep and ask about it and flex :) Adam H On 1/26/06, Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 January 2006 10:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion. I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this company to stop there fears. Andy, Take a look at this entry and realize that any statements made about any Macromedia/Adobe product before next Tuesday is completely and entirely base-less: http://www.cbetta.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/1/25/Adobe-To-Webcast-Key-Analyst-Meeting Regards, Dave. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230515 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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You see his need for an answer. I was just reacting to the backlash against the OP. I hate seeing these threads and they drive me crazy. My point is that just because I (or someone else) don't care to see the message, doesn't mean the guy shouldn't have posted it. For all he knows there's a link he missed somewhere on adobe.com that spells out their plans perfectly. He was just asking for help and I hate it when the list-nazis come out to knock people down. --Ferg Bryan Stevenson wrote: Why is it that some of you people seem to think only the specific messages that interest you are on topic or are worthy of the list? --Ferg Yes your situation is validyou just need to understand that the CF is dying therad has circulated an untold number of times on this list ;-) Sure makes my skin crawl when I see this alarmist BS show up (not saying you're the alarmist).but I see your need for an answer. I doubt VERY much you'll find the fact based ammunition you are looking for. If anyone other than Adobe/MM insiders knew the direction the company will take CF...well they'd be able to see the future and should be off betting on the horses ;-) Good luck Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230521 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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You see his need for an answer. I was just reacting to the backlash against the OP. I hate seeing these threads and they drive me crazy. My point is that just because I (or someone else) don't care to see the message, doesn't mean the guy shouldn't have posted it. For all he knows there's a link he missed somewhere on adobe.com that spells out their plans perfectly. He was just asking for help and I hate it when the list-nazis come out to knock people down. --Ferg Re-read my friend...I agreed with you ;-) ..and his/him etc was referring to you .even spelled out plans BTW are useless these days IMHO...companies change their minds more often than I change my boxers ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230522 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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So you're saying they change their plans at least once a month? :) ~Brad ..even spelled out plans BTW are useless these days IMHO...companies change their minds more often than I change my boxers ;-) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230524 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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So you're saying they change their plans at least once a month? :) ~Brad Congrats...you win the prize for most obvious joke Brad ;-) I was waiting for that one to showthanks for not making me wait too long...hehe Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230526 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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I'm sorry, referring to whom??? I must be lost; I wasn't the OP. I know you were agreeing with my main point, but I think we got crossways like I was defending my own post. I was not. Anyway, I know what you mean; you know what I mean; the OP now knows that he will not likely find good solid information to use in defense of CF, but he now knows that there are several indicators to mark the strong future of CF. And to you, Mr. Original Poster, I know you probably didn't need me to jump in for you, but I couldn't resist when I saw the first five kill this post now messages. I have a protection complex. I was always that kid who got in fights with the school bully standing up for people I didn't know and sometimes even people I didn't especially like. --Ferg Bryan Stevenson wrote: You see his need for an answer. I was just reacting to the backlash against the OP. I hate seeing these threads and they drive me crazy. My point is that just because I (or someone else) don't care to see the message, doesn't mean the guy shouldn't have posted it. For all he knows there's a link he missed somewhere on adobe.com that spells out their plans perfectly. He was just asking for help and I hate it when the list-nazis come out to knock people down. --Ferg Re-read my friend...I agreed with you ;-) ..and his/him etc was referring to you .even spelled out plans BTW are useless these days IMHO...companies change their minds more often than I change my boxers ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230528 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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What is Flex? :) On 1/26/06, Adam Haskell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to qualle fears call your regional Sales rep and ask about it and flex :) Adam H ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230529 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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LOL...yes Ferg...I know what you know and you know what I know...ya know? ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230530 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Here's some ammunition: http://www.tiobe.com/index.htm?tiobe_index That link ranks the most used programming languages in the world. Notice the 9 green arrows next to CF! Moven' on up... Cheers, Baz -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfuion Life Spam So you're saying they change their plans at least once a month? :) ~Brad Congrats...you win the prize for most obvious joke Brad ;-) I was waiting for that one to showthanks for not making me wait too long...hehe Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230533 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Whoa, not sure if you want to show your boss that...the nine arrows are good, but it lists Cold Fusion as a status B, in the same league as Pascal and Fortran -- down the page it says it strongly suggests status A for mission critical systems. Undoubtedly soon CF will be status A but according to that site it's not quite there yet. --Josh - Original Message - From: Baz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:28 PM Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam Here's some ammunition: http://www.tiobe.com/index.htm?tiobe_index That link ranks the most used programming languages in the world. Notice the 9 green arrows next to CF! Moven' on up... Cheers, Baz -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfuion Life Spam So you're saying they change their plans at least once a month? :) ~Brad Congrats...you win the prize for most obvious joke Brad ;-) I was waiting for that one to showthanks for not making me wait too long...hehe Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230534 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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But vb.net is a status B as well. On 1/26/06, Josh Nathanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoa, not sure if you want to show your boss that...the nine arrows are good, but it lists Cold Fusion as a status B, in the same league as Pascal and Fortran -- down the page it says it strongly suggests status A for mission critical systems. Undoubtedly soon CF will be status A but according to that site it's not quite there yet. --Josh ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230535 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:57:46 -0500 Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But vb.net is a status B as well. Where is ASP.Net or is that lumped in with VB.Net? Something isn't right but it looks good to me. Lee Surma ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230537 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Here is something a little more concrete for you to show to your people: Where is ColdFusion Headed Under Adobe? by Simon Horwith http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/167952.htm -Aaron On 1/26/06, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:57:46 -0500 Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But vb.net is a status B as well. Where is ASP.Net or is that lumped in with VB.Net? Something isn't right but it looks good to me. Lee Surma ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230545 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion Life Span'. After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life Spam. Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam' Anybody else using gmail and seeing this behavior? On 1/26/06, Aaron Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is something a little more concrete for you to show to your people: Where is ColdFusion Headed Under Adobe? by Simon Horwith http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/167952.htm -Aaron On 1/26/06, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:57:46 -0500 Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But vb.net is a status B as well. Where is ASP.Net or is that lumped in with VB.Net? Something isn't right but it looks good to me. Lee Surma ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230546 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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I am using gmail and have not seen this behavior on this thread. On 1/26/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion Life Span'. After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life Spam. Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam' Anybody else using gmail and seeing this behavior? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230548 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Great. Google Gremlins. Just what I need. On 1/26/06, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using gmail and have not seen this behavior on this thread. On 1/26/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion Life Span'. After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life Spam. Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam' Anybody else using gmail and seeing this behavior? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230549 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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I use GMail and the subject has been the same the whole time: From: Andy Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Jan 26, 2006 6:54 PM Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam On 1/27/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great. Google Gremlins. Just what I need. On 1/26/06, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using gmail and have not seen this behavior on this thread. On 1/26/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion Life Span'. After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life Spam. Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam' Anybody else using gmail and seeing this behavior? -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230551 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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It's said Spam the entire thread for me. (Using Mozilla). Rather annoying for a perfectionist like me. ;) -JM Jeff Fleitz wrote: When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion Life Span'. After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life Spam. Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam' Anybody else using gmail and seeing this behavior? On 1/26/06, Aaron Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is something a little more concrete for you to show to your people: Where is ColdFusion Headed Under Adobe? by Simon Horwith http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/167952.htm -Aaron On 1/26/06, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:57:46 -0500 Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But vb.net is a status B as well. Where is ASP.Net or is that lumped in with VB.Net? Something isn't right but it looks good to me. Lee Surma ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230552 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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I always thought those Spams in the subject header were from peoples email clients. Never cared enough to look into it since it only seems to happen on mailing lists I am on. On 1/26/06, Jordan Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's said Spam the entire thread for me. (Using Mozilla). Rather annoying for a perfectionist like me. ;) -JM ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230553 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Yes, I'm seeing the same exact thing. Marty On 1/26/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion Life Span'. After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life Spam. Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam' Anybody else using gmail and seeing this behavior? On 1/26/06, Aaron Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is something a little more concrete for you to show to your people: Where is ColdFusion Headed Under Adobe? by Simon Horwith http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/167952.htm -Aaron On 1/26/06, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:57:46 -0500 Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But vb.net is a status B as well. Where is ASP.Net or is that lumped in with VB.Net? Something isn't right but it looks good to me. Lee Surma ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230554 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfuion Life Spam
OK, everyone get a broom, I call shenanigans! On 1/27/06, Marty Johll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I'm seeing the same exact thing. Marty On 1/26/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion Life Span'. After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life Spam. Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam' -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230555 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Coldfuion Life Spam
I saw it On 1/26/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great. Google Gremlins. Just what I need. On 1/26/06, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using gmail and have not seen this behavior on this thread. On 1/26/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion Life Span'. After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life Spam. Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam' Anybody else using gmail and seeing this behavior? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230559 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54