RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I meant a trolling post ;-) LOL

Not andy!

-Original Message-
From: Nathan Strutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 January 2006 18:06
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

Oh that's not nice at all. Andy's no troll!

Asked by a lesser-known CFer, and in a more cynical or doomed tone,
you could get away with saying that, but since neither are true, your
message is more of a troll than the original.

Andy, I hope you've got enough ammo. I know what it's like to work in
an office where CF is constantly under attack and everything competing
is constantly under review. CF's cool new features and RAD development
consistently keep it head and shoulders above everything else for me.
HTH.

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/



On 1/27/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Troll.





 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Thu Jan 26 10:54:25 2006
 Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam

 I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over
 macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion
 will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using
coldfusion
 but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion.
 I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this
 company to stop there fears.






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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-30 Thread Ken Ferguson
I fail to understand why these posts were directed at me. All I wanted 
was for people to stop jumping on the original poster's back just 
because he asked for concrete evidence. The guy needed some real 
evidence he could take to his superiors and people yelled at him for 
starting a thread in which they were not interested. That's it; nothing 
more. I'm not an alarmist and I don't believe, for even one second that 
it's going anywhere. I just can't stand the list-nazis who flame people 
for starting certain topics.

--Ferg

Tony wrote:
 +100

 and one other option, open source it. hell, id go so far
 as to say if it went open source, and a REAL group of folks
 collabo'd on it, it would maybe even become stronger.

 not that macrodobeans arent good, but adobe cannot hire
 EVERY good developer out there.  so that big collabo'd version
 might be even cooler :)

 again, id say, no worries, its been no worries for me for quite some time!

 tw

 On 1/29/06, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Ken, consider it this way   Suppose for the sake of argument that Adobe
 decided that CF wasnt really the kind of product they could make the most
 of.   They wouldn't just abandon it.   It has a value, has a revenue stream.
 It has a customer base and has plenty of developers building in it.

 If Adobe didnt want it (and I also agree its far more likely they want to
 use CF to take Adobe into areas they couldnt get to before)  they would be
 much more likely to sell it off as a business to someone else.  There would
 be lots of options in this area - a management buyout, sale to a competitor,
 sale to another company wanting to move in the server direction. If they
 sold ColdFusion to someone else,  it would still be a viable option for your
 site. Whoever did buy it would want to make it grow and develop.  As an
 Adobe product or as someone else's,  ColdFusion is good for us all.

 It would only be a disaster for your OP If Adobe said 'that's it!
 ColdFusion is dead - we're writing off our investment in it and will provide
 no more support for it. And it's not for sale to anyone else either.I
 think that's about as likely as George W Bush appearing in a pink tutu for
 the next State Of the Union address.   And even in that unlikely event,
 there's Blue Dragon who have already said if Adobe didnt want coldfusion
 they'll be there saying Me Me Me Me Let ME have it!!

 Cheers
 Mike Kear
 Windsor, NSW, Australia
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
 AFP Webworks
 http://afpwebworks.com
 ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month



 On 1/27/06, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The OP said that *HE KNEW* CF wasn't going anywhere, but is looking for
 actual evidence to present to others in his organization to assuage
 their fears. If you're gonna whine about message bloat, then you can
 either shut up or offer some helpful link containing information backing
 up his position. The OP is in a situation where he's trying to keep
 things oriented to CF in his company. He simply needs ammunition with
 which to load the weapon. That certainly seems like a topic of value for
 this list to me.

 Why is it that some of you people seem to think only the specific
 messages that interest you are on topic or are worthy of the list?

 --Ferg


   

 

 

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-29 Thread Mike Kear
Ken, consider it this way   Suppose for the sake of argument that Adobe
decided that CF wasnt really the kind of product they could make the most
of.   They wouldn't just abandon it.   It has a value, has a revenue stream.
It has a customer base and has plenty of developers building in it.

If Adobe didnt want it (and I also agree its far more likely they want to
use CF to take Adobe into areas they couldnt get to before)  they would be
much more likely to sell it off as a business to someone else.  There would
be lots of options in this area - a management buyout, sale to a competitor,
sale to another company wanting to move in the server direction. If they
sold ColdFusion to someone else,  it would still be a viable option for your
site. Whoever did buy it would want to make it grow and develop.  As an
Adobe product or as someone else's,  ColdFusion is good for us all.

It would only be a disaster for your OP If Adobe said 'that's it!
ColdFusion is dead - we're writing off our investment in it and will provide
no more support for it. And it's not for sale to anyone else either.I
think that's about as likely as George W Bush appearing in a pink tutu for
the next State Of the Union address.   And even in that unlikely event,
there's Blue Dragon who have already said if Adobe didnt want coldfusion
they'll be there saying Me Me Me Me Let ME have it!!

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month



On 1/27/06, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The OP said that *HE KNEW* CF wasn't going anywhere, but is looking for
 actual evidence to present to others in his organization to assuage
 their fears. If you're gonna whine about message bloat, then you can
 either shut up or offer some helpful link containing information backing
 up his position. The OP is in a situation where he's trying to keep
 things oriented to CF in his company. He simply needs ammunition with
 which to load the weapon. That certainly seems like a topic of value for
 this list to me.

 Why is it that some of you people seem to think only the specific
 messages that interest you are on topic or are worthy of the list?

 --Ferg




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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-29 Thread Tony
+100

and one other option, open source it. hell, id go so far
as to say if it went open source, and a REAL group of folks
collabo'd on it, it would maybe even become stronger.

not that macrodobeans arent good, but adobe cannot hire
EVERY good developer out there.  so that big collabo'd version
might be even cooler :)

again, id say, no worries, its been no worries for me for quite some time!

tw

On 1/29/06, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ken, consider it this way   Suppose for the sake of argument that Adobe
 decided that CF wasnt really the kind of product they could make the most
 of.   They wouldn't just abandon it.   It has a value, has a revenue stream.
 It has a customer base and has plenty of developers building in it.

 If Adobe didnt want it (and I also agree its far more likely they want to
 use CF to take Adobe into areas they couldnt get to before)  they would be
 much more likely to sell it off as a business to someone else.  There would
 be lots of options in this area - a management buyout, sale to a competitor,
 sale to another company wanting to move in the server direction. If they
 sold ColdFusion to someone else,  it would still be a viable option for your
 site. Whoever did buy it would want to make it grow and develop.  As an
 Adobe product or as someone else's,  ColdFusion is good for us all.

 It would only be a disaster for your OP If Adobe said 'that's it!
 ColdFusion is dead - we're writing off our investment in it and will provide
 no more support for it. And it's not for sale to anyone else either.I
 think that's about as likely as George W Bush appearing in a pink tutu for
 the next State Of the Union address.   And even in that unlikely event,
 there's Blue Dragon who have already said if Adobe didnt want coldfusion
 they'll be there saying Me Me Me Me Let ME have it!!

 Cheers
 Mike Kear
 Windsor, NSW, Australia
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
 AFP Webworks
 http://afpwebworks.com
 ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month



 On 1/27/06, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The OP said that *HE KNEW* CF wasn't going anywhere, but is looking for
  actual evidence to present to others in his organization to assuage
  their fears. If you're gonna whine about message bloat, then you can
  either shut up or offer some helpful link containing information backing
  up his position. The OP is in a situation where he's trying to keep
  things oriented to CF in his company. He simply needs ammunition with
  which to load the weapon. That certainly seems like a topic of value for
  this list to me.
 
  Why is it that some of you people seem to think only the specific
  messages that interest you are on topic or are worthy of the list?
 
  --Ferg
 
 


 

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-27 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Troll.





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-Original Message-
From: Andy Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Thu Jan 26 10:54:25 2006
Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam

I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over
macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion
will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion
but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion.
I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this
company to stop there fears.



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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-27 Thread Nathan Strutz
Oh that's not nice at all. Andy's no troll!

Asked by a lesser-known CFer, and in a more cynical or doomed tone,
you could get away with saying that, but since neither are true, your
message is more of a troll than the original.

Andy, I hope you've got enough ammo. I know what it's like to work in
an office where CF is constantly under attack and everything competing
is constantly under review. CF's cool new features and RAD development
consistently keep it head and shoulders above everything else for me.
HTH.

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/



On 1/27/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Troll.





 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Thu Jan 26 10:54:25 2006
 Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam

 I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over
 macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion
 will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion
 but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion.
 I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this
 company to stop there fears.




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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-27 Thread Howard Fore
Advise them not to build a company strategy on rumors and press releases?

On 1/26/06, Andy Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over
 macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion
 will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion
 but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion.
 I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this
 company to stop there fears.



--
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The less you know, the more you believe. - U2, Last Night On Earth


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RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Adrian Lynch
Yeah, a boot in the hole! Opps, did I say that out loud?! :Oo

Here's something:
http://www.fusionauthority.com/News/Article.cfm/ArticleID:4579

Check the Breeze presentation, link at the bottom of the page.

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 January 2006 10:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam


I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over
macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion
will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion
but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion.
I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this
company to stop there fears.


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RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Bull.  If anything it is Flash which should be worried what with Vista and
the foundation subsystem fast approaching.





-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 January 2006 11:58
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

Yeah, a boot in the hole! Opps, did I say that out loud?! :Oo

Here's something:
http://www.fusionauthority.com/News/Article.cfm/ArticleID:4579

Check the Breeze presentation, link at the bottom of the page.

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 January 2006 10:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam


I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over
macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion
will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion
but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion.
I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this
company to stop there fears.




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RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Kevin Aebig
LOL... you must be joking because that's truly the most ridiculous thing
I've heard in months. Flash is a big reason that merger even took place. 

!k

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: January 26, 2006 6:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

Bull.  If anything it is Flash which should be worried what with Vista and
the foundation subsystem fast approaching.





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RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Nah, not what I meant :-) I mean MS are producing their Flash Killer only
time will tell.





-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 January 2006 15:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

LOL... you must be joking because that's truly the most ridiculous thing
I've heard in months. Flash is a big reason that merger even took place. 

!k

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: January 26, 2006 6:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

Bull.  If anything it is Flash which should be worried what with Vista and
the foundation subsystem fast approaching.







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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Tony
andy.

adobe is the platinum sponsor for cfunited.
if they were planning to say good bye to that server technology
do you think for one second they would be doing that?

the best thing you can do is to quell the rumors and thoughts that
people in your company have.  they will not be killing coldfusion, man, come on.

tw

On 1/26/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 LOL... you must be joking because that's truly the most ridiculous thing
 I've heard in months. Flash is a big reason that merger even took place.

 !k

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: January 26, 2006 6:31 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

 Bull.  If anything it is Flash which should be worried what with Vista and
 the foundation subsystem fast approaching.





 

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RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Snake
Even if Adobe did kill off Coldfusion server, it wouldn't really matter cozz
we still have BlueDragon.

Russ 

-Original Message-
From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 January 2006 10:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam

I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over
macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion
will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion
but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion.
I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this
company to stop there fears.



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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Tony
and jesus freakin christ, this thread happens too much, its pointless
and will do nothing, but cause over bloat of messages on this list.

its not going away, its not going away... please stop this thread.

tony

On 1/26/06, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Even if Adobe did kill off Coldfusion server, it wouldn't really matter cozz
 we still have BlueDragon.

 Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 January 2006 10:54
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam

 I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over
 macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion
 will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion
 but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion.
 I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this
 company to stop there fears.



 

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RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Emmet McGovern
How did I know the flash geek in the group would have to reply to that?

-e

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

LOL... you must be joking because that's truly the most ridiculous thing
I've heard in months. Flash is a big reason that merger even took place. 

!k

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: January 26, 2006 6:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

Bull.  If anything it is Flash which should be worried what with Vista and
the foundation subsystem fast approaching.







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RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Big Mad Kev
I've just spotted this,

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1914903,00.asp

Ok Flash is platform independent but it looks like Central will need to come
up to speed to catch some of this.

As far as I'm concerned CF is safe and Flash will be save for the
foreseeable future as most won't upgrade to vista until SP1/2 and may be 3

Just my 2pence worth

Cheers 


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 January 2006 15:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

LOL... you must be joking because that's truly the most ridiculous thing
I've heard in months. Flash is a big reason that merger even took place. 

!k

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 26, 2006 6:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

Bull.  If anything it is Flash which should be worried what with Vista and
the foundation subsystem fast approaching.







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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Dave Carabetta
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 January 2006 10:54
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam

 I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over
 macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion
 will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion
 but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion.
 I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this
 company to stop there fears.


Andy,

Take a look at this entry and realize that any statements made about
any Macromedia/Adobe product before next Tuesday is completely and
entirely base-less:

http://www.cbetta.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/1/25/Adobe-To-Webcast-Key-Analyst-Meeting

Regards,
Dave.

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RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Dave Watts
 I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can 
 provide to this company to stop there fears.

No, probably not. But this is true of almost any product. Since Adobe didn't
have anything similar to CF before the merger, and they need server-side
products to provide complete solutions, I don't see CF going away anytime
soon.

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RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Kevin Aebig
LOL... Am I that predictable?

!k

-Original Message-
From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: January 26, 2006 9:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

How did I know the flash geek in the group would have to reply to that?

-e

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

LOL... you must be joking because that's truly the most ridiculous thing
I've heard in months. Flash is a big reason that merger even took place. 

!k

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: January 26, 2006 6:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

Bull.  If anything it is Flash which should be worried what with Vista and
the foundation subsystem fast approaching.









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RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Kevin Aebig
Especially considering that Coldfusion is really starting to not only gain
some serious momentum, but also integrating some really great features that
marry well with the Adobe Print philosophy.

Even though I don't like the Adobe programming (Illustrator is a friggin'
hog), I do respect the innovations they've brought to design over the last 5
years. I'm sure they have some ideas for the lineup...

@@ -- My 2 worthless CDN cents 

!k

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: January 26, 2006 9:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

 I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can 
 provide to this company to stop there fears.

No, probably not. But this is true of almost any product. Since Adobe didn't
have anything similar to CF before the merger, and they need server-side
products to provide complete solutions, I don't see CF going away anytime
soon.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Ken Ferguson
The OP said that *HE KNEW* CF wasn't going anywhere, but is looking for 
actual evidence to present to others in his organization to assuage 
their fears. If you're gonna whine about message bloat, then you can 
either shut up or offer some helpful link containing information backing 
up his position. The OP is in a situation where he's trying to keep 
things oriented to CF in his company. He simply needs ammunition with 
which to load the weapon. That certainly seems like a topic of value for 
this list to me.

Why is it that some of you people seem to think only the specific 
messages that interest you are on topic or are worthy of the list?

--Ferg



Tony wrote:
 and jesus freakin christ, this thread happens too much, its pointless
 and will do nothing, but cause over bloat of messages on this list.

 its not going away, its not going away... please stop this thread.

 tony

 On 1/26/06, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Even if Adobe did kill off Coldfusion server, it wouldn't really matter cozz
 we still have BlueDragon.

 Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 January 2006 10:54
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam

 I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken over
 macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of coldfusion
 will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using coldfusion
 but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion.
 I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to this
 company to stop there fears.




 

 

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Bryan Stevenson
 Why is it that some of you people seem to think only the specific
 messages that interest you are on topic or are worthy of the list?

 --Ferg

Yes your situation is validyou just need to understand that the CF is 
dying therad has circulated an untold number of times on this list ;-)

Sure makes my skin crawl when I see this alarmist BS show up (not saying you're 
the alarmist).but I see your need for an answer.

I doubt VERY much you'll find the fact based ammunition you are looking for.  
If 
anyone other than Adobe/MM insiders knew the direction the company will take 
CF...well they'd be able to see the future and should be off betting on the 
horses ;-)

Good luck

Cheers

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Adam Haskell
Heh I just had lunch with our new adobe sales rep. he was talking about
learning about CF. Now honestly if they're going to get rid of it why would
they be training thier Adobe sales reps on it???

If you want to qualle fears call your regional Sales rep and ask about it
and flex :)

Adam H

On 1/26/06, Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 26 January 2006 10:54
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam
 
  I was talking to someone today who has said that now adobe has taken
 over
  macromedia that they will consentrate on flash and the life of
 coldfusion
  will becoming to an end. I am about to build a major system using
 coldfusion
  but the company now has doubts over the future of coldfusion.
  I know its not going anywhere but is there anything I can provide to
 this
  company to stop there fears.
 

 Andy,

 Take a look at this entry and realize that any statements made about
 any Macromedia/Adobe product before next Tuesday is completely and
 entirely base-less:


 http://www.cbetta.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/1/25/Adobe-To-Webcast-Key-Analyst-Meeting

 Regards,
 Dave.

 

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Ken Ferguson
You see his need for an answer. I was just reacting to the backlash 
against the OP. I hate seeing these threads and they drive me crazy. My 
point is that just because I (or someone else) don't care to see the 
message, doesn't mean the guy shouldn't have posted it. For all he knows 
there's a link he missed somewhere on adobe.com that spells out their 
plans perfectly. He was just asking for help and I hate it when the 
list-nazis come out to knock people down.

--Ferg

Bryan Stevenson wrote:
 Why is it that some of you people seem to think only the specific
 messages that interest you are on topic or are worthy of the list?

 --Ferg
 

 Yes your situation is validyou just need to understand that the CF is 
 dying therad has circulated an untold number of times on this list ;-)

 Sure makes my skin crawl when I see this alarmist BS show up (not saying 
 you're 
 the alarmist).but I see your need for an answer.

 I doubt VERY much you'll find the fact based ammunition you are looking for.  
 If 
 anyone other than Adobe/MM insiders knew the direction the company will take 
 CF...well they'd be able to see the future and should be off betting on the 
 horses ;-)

 Good luck

 Cheers

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com 


 

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Bryan Stevenson
 You see his need for an answer. I was just reacting to the backlash
 against the OP. I hate seeing these threads and they drive me crazy. My
 point is that just because I (or someone else) don't care to see the
 message, doesn't mean the guy shouldn't have posted it. For all he knows
 there's a link he missed somewhere on adobe.com that spells out their
 plans perfectly. He was just asking for help and I hate it when the
 list-nazis come out to knock people down.

 --Ferg

Re-read my friend...I agreed with you ;-) ..and his/him etc was referring to 
you

.even spelled out plans BTW are useless these days IMHO...companies 
change 
their minds more often than I change my boxers ;-)

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Brad Wood
So you're saying they change their plans at least once a month?  :)

~Brad

..even spelled out plans BTW are useless these days
IMHO...companies change 
their minds more often than I change my boxers ;-)


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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Bryan Stevenson
 So you're saying they change their plans at least once a month?  :)

 ~Brad

Congrats...you win the prize for most obvious joke Brad ;-)

I was waiting for that one to showthanks for not making me wait too 
long...hehe

Cheers

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Ken Ferguson
I'm sorry, referring to whom??? I must be lost; I wasn't the OP. I know 
you were agreeing with my main point, but I think we got crossways like 
I was defending my own post. I was not. Anyway, I know what you mean; 
you know what I mean; the OP now knows that he will not likely find good 
solid information to use in defense of CF, but he now knows that there 
are several indicators to mark the strong future of CF.

And to you, Mr. Original Poster, I know you probably didn't need me to 
jump in for you, but I couldn't resist when I saw the first five kill 
this post now messages. I have a protection complex. I was always that 
kid who got in fights with the school bully standing up for people I 
didn't know and sometimes even people I didn't especially like.

--Ferg

Bryan Stevenson wrote:
 You see his need for an answer. I was just reacting to the backlash
 against the OP. I hate seeing these threads and they drive me crazy. My
 point is that just because I (or someone else) don't care to see the
 message, doesn't mean the guy shouldn't have posted it. For all he knows
 there's a link he missed somewhere on adobe.com that spells out their
 plans perfectly. He was just asking for help and I hate it when the
 list-nazis come out to knock people down.

 --Ferg
 

 Re-read my friend...I agreed with you ;-) ..and his/him etc was referring to 
 you

 .even spelled out plans BTW are useless these days IMHO...companies 
 change 
 their minds more often than I change my boxers ;-)

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com 


 

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Aaron Rouse
What is Flex?  :)

On 1/26/06, Adam Haskell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 If you want to qualle fears call your regional Sales rep and ask about it
 and flex :)

 Adam H




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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Bryan Stevenson
LOL...yes Ferg...I know what you  know and you know what I know...ya know? ;-)

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RE: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Baz
Here's some ammunition: http://www.tiobe.com/index.htm?tiobe_index

That link ranks the most used programming languages in the world. Notice the
9 green arrows next to CF! Moven' on up...

Cheers,
Baz


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From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

 So you're saying they change their plans at least once a month?  :)

 ~Brad

Congrats...you win the prize for most obvious joke Brad ;-)

I was waiting for that one to showthanks for not making me wait too 
long...hehe

Cheers

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Josh Nathanson
Whoa, not sure if you want to show your boss that...the nine arrows are 
good, but it lists Cold Fusion as a status B, in the same league as Pascal 
and Fortran -- down the page it says it strongly suggests status A for 
mission critical systems.  Undoubtedly soon CF will be status A but 
according to that site it's not quite there yet.
--Josh

- Original Message - 
From: Baz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:28 PM
Subject: RE: Coldfuion Life Spam


 Here's some ammunition: http://www.tiobe.com/index.htm?tiobe_index

 That link ranks the most used programming languages in the world. Notice 
 the
 9 green arrows next to CF! Moven' on up...

 Cheers,
 Baz


 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:44 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

 So you're saying they change their plans at least once a month?  :)

 ~Brad

 Congrats...you win the prize for most obvious joke Brad ;-)

 I was waiting for that one to showthanks for not making me wait too
 long...hehe

 Cheers

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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 fax: 250.480.1264
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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Jerry Johnson
But vb.net is a status B as well.

On 1/26/06, Josh Nathanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Whoa, not sure if you want to show your boss that...the nine arrows are
 good, but it lists Cold Fusion as a status B, in the same league as Pascal
 and Fortran -- down the page it says it strongly suggests status A for
 mission critical systems.  Undoubtedly soon CF will be status A but
 according to that site it's not quite there yet.
 --Josh

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Lee
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:57:46 -0500
  Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But vb.net is a status B as well.

Where is ASP.Net or is that lumped in with VB.Net? 
Something isn't right but it looks good to me.

Lee Surma

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Aaron Roberson
Here is something a little more concrete for you to show to your people:

Where is ColdFusion Headed Under Adobe? by Simon Horwith
http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/167952.htm

-Aaron

On 1/26/06, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:57:46 -0500
   Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  But vb.net is a status B as well.

 Where is ASP.Net or is that lumped in with VB.Net?
 Something isn't right but it looks good to me.

 Lee Surma

 

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Jeff Fleitz
When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion
Life Span'.  After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life
Spam.  Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam'

Anybody else using gmail and seeing this behavior?

On 1/26/06, Aaron Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here is something a little more concrete for you to show to your people:

 Where is ColdFusion Headed Under Adobe? by Simon Horwith
 http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/167952.htm

 -Aaron

 On 1/26/06, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:57:46 -0500
Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   But vb.net is a status B as well.
 
  Where is ASP.Net or is that lumped in with VB.Net?
  Something isn't right but it looks good to me.
 
  Lee Surma
 
 

 

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Aaron Rouse
I am using gmail and have not seen this behavior on this thread.

On 1/26/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion
 Life Span'.  After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life
 Spam.  Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam'

 Anybody else using gmail and seeing this behavior?




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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Jeff Fleitz
Great. Google Gremlins.  Just what I need.

On 1/26/06, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am using gmail and have not seen this behavior on this thread.

 On 1/26/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion
  Life Span'.  After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life
  Spam.  Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam'
 
  Anybody else using gmail and seeing this behavior?
 
 


 

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread James Holmes
I use GMail and the subject has been the same the whole time:

From: Andy Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date: Jan 26, 2006 6:54 PM
Subject: Coldfuion Life Spam

On 1/27/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Great. Google Gremlins.  Just what I need.

 On 1/26/06, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am using gmail and have not seen this behavior on this thread.
 
  On 1/26/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion
   Life Span'.  After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life
   Spam.  Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam'
  
   Anybody else using gmail and seeing this behavior?

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http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Jordan Michaels
It's said Spam the entire thread for me. (Using Mozilla). Rather
annoying for a perfectionist like me. ;)

-JM



Jeff Fleitz wrote:

When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion
Life Span'.  After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life
Spam.  Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam'

Anybody else using gmail and seeing this behavior?

On 1/26/06, Aaron Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Here is something a little more concrete for you to show to your people:

Where is ColdFusion Headed Under Adobe? by Simon Horwith
http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/167952.htm

-Aaron

On 1/26/06, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:57:46 -0500
  Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

But vb.net is a status B as well.


Where is ASP.Net or is that lumped in with VB.Net?
Something isn't right but it looks good to me.

Lee Surma


  






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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Aaron Rouse
I always thought those Spams in the subject header were from peoples email
clients.  Never cared enough to look into it since it only seems to happen
on mailing lists I am on.

On 1/26/06, Jordan Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's said Spam the entire thread for me. (Using Mozilla). Rather
 annoying for a perfectionist like me. ;)

 -JM




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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Marty Johll
Yes, I'm seeing the same exact thing.

Marty

On 1/26/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion
 Life Span'.  After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life
 Spam.  Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam'

 Anybody else using gmail and seeing this behavior?

 On 1/26/06, Aaron Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Here is something a little more concrete for you to show to your people:
 
  Where is ColdFusion Headed Under Adobe? by Simon Horwith
  http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/167952.htm
 
  -Aaron
 
  On 1/26/06, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:57:46 -0500
 Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But vb.net is a status B as well.
  
   Where is ASP.Net or is that lumped in with VB.Net?
   Something isn't right but it looks good to me.
  
   Lee Surma
  
  
 
 

 

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread James Holmes
OK, everyone get a broom, I call shenanigans!

On 1/27/06, Marty Johll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, I'm seeing the same exact thing.

 Marty

 On 1/26/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion
  Life Span'.  After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life
  Spam.  Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam'

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http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/

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Re: Coldfuion Life Spam

2006-01-26 Thread Dana
I saw it

On 1/26/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Great. Google Gremlins.  Just what I need.

 On 1/26/06, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am using gmail and have not seen this behavior on this thread.
 
  On 1/26/06, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   When I first read this thread in gmail, the subject line was 'ColdFusion
   Life Span'.  After a couple more posts it turned into 'ColdFusion Life
   Spam.  Now it shows up as 'Coldfuion Life Spam'
  
   Anybody else using gmail and seeing this behavior?
  
  
 
 
 

 

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