RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Wha! You know Dave is serious when he capitalises the first words in his paragraphs! :Oo :OD -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2006 02:02 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Actually I didn't ask for help with remoting was just responding. As far as what you say about hosting, I totally disagree. If you are on a shared host in a production enviroment you shouldn't be allowed to do beta tests or anything even remotely close to that, do that on your dev machine or get your own server for your experiments. It's a production machine and not just yours but hundreds of other peoples as well and beta and experiments aren't for production servers, why would you think they are? Next time your server is crashing just think oh hey I bet that's someone testing their beta product or code, I'm sure your customers will be real happy with that answer when they ask whey their site is going down a lot, it's bad enough with ppl running bad code. Personally, I don't think it's off topic because we are talking about a technical issue and I would be curious to see what others say about it. I have been on servers that go down a lot and ppl say oh thats just coldfusion server but then I move to an new server and it purrs along with no problems then I find out it's because someones experimental code. Of course I could be wrong and shame on me for using a shared server and take the lumps and bumps but if everyone on a server had commen sense and didn't use it for their personal playground they wouldn't be crashing. If that's what you want get a dedicated server. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233528 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Getting data into Flash 8
LMFAO, yet so true I just can't friggin type!! Here's what happens if I try to cap each sentence: THe dog ran to the ball. BLack car ran over dog. DOg's eyes popped out. YUcky homeless man ate dead dogs popped out eyes. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 4:50 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Wha! You know Dave is serious when he capitalises the first words in his paragraphs! :Oo :OD ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233529 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
Oh, my bad. Whoever wants help with Remoting I can do a Breezo to walk folks through it. Since you think it is on topic and the powers that be won't hit me over the knuckles, I'll respond. I agree with test on your own stuff but when going to a production environment, hence your clients shared hosting space, you HAVE to test the site or app you've built within that environment. At this point you could have bugs running rampit. Most people have sites up that are worse than beta stuff anyways, in terms of code. That's why I am 100% with you in saying get a dedicated box if you are worried about others. The way it sounds, you never put code on a shared server unless you know it is 100% working and has no bugs. If so, you are rare. So you know, I don't use shared servers anymore but when I did, and for those I know who still do, you have to test in the production environment before you can say a project is ready. While you are testing, IMO, that is a beta version of the product. or site. Not doing so isn't justice for the product or client. My opinions... On 2/26/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I didn't ask for help with remoting was just responding. As far as what you say about hosting, I totally disagree. If you are on a shared host in a production enviroment you shouldn't be allowed to do beta tests or anything even remotely close to that, do that on your dev machine or get your own server for your experiments. It's a production machine and not just yours but hundreds of other peoples as well and beta and experiments aren't for production servers, why would you think they are? Next time your server is crashing just think oh hey I bet that's someone testing their beta product or code, I'm sure your customers will be real happy with that answer when they ask whey their site is going down a lot, it's bad enough with ppl running bad code. Personally, I don't think it's off topic because we are talking about a technical issue and I would be curious to see what others say about it. I have been on servers that go down a lot and ppl say oh thats just coldfusion server but then I move to an new server and it purrs along with no problems then I find out it's because someones experimental code. Of course I could be wrong and shame on me for using a shared server and take the lumps and bumps but if everyone on a server had commen sense and didn't use it for their personal playground they wouldn't be crashing. If that's what you want get a dedicated server. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:35 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 I don't want to go into a hosting dispute but any host who controls my content and/or files is a bad one. That means, any product I develop that is in beta stage can't be posted on their server which may be my testing environment. It just contradicts the idea of purchasing X GB's/mo (or mb's) for you to use for your own personal or business use if the content is filtered. That's utterly ludicrous for a host to do such a thing. These are just my opinions. I promise I won't respond to your hosting comments if you decide to respond to this. I know this post has gone WOT. Anyways, did you get the Remoting going? If you want side help I'd be more than willing to jump into Breeze and show you hands-on how to do it. Just let me know off list. Thanks, On 2/26/06, dave wrote: I'd call them a good host or any in that matter who makes sure stuff (especially beta products) aren't installed on a shared production server. If your host lets you put whatever you want up, I would certain run like a mofo the other direction. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 LOL. I'd like to talk to those hosts to see what their issue was. It is like them telling you no to putting Pear on the server. It isn't their call. You pay for space...put what you want on the server, as long as it is legal. As said, it doesn't take the host to install it. Again, amfphp is nothing more than a set of files you put on your server. Although Adobe has the patent I HIGHLY doubt they would nix other amf products. That will just limit Flash's use with other technologies which would be dumb. There is a free Remoting gateway for .net as well and about 2 or 3 for php. They would be dumb to stop it and I say they would never do it especially since MM was becoming so community driven and Adobe is continuing, and bettering it seems (hence the Flex 2 pricing, etc), to work with the community. IMO, Adobe will never tell everyone using amfphp they need to stop. As said, that would be dumb. On 2/26/06, dave wrote
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
In no way am I trying to argue. That's why I hate email for discussions, in most cases. I'm simply providing another view that is opposite of yours. A novice ECMA developer should know something about ECMA. It would be stupid for me to think a novice CF developer should know something about an ECMA language if that is the only language they know. No one is comparing anything to CF in terms of ease. I compared Remoting + CF with AMFPHP and said they are equally simple, except for the method table in amfphp. The simple understanding that you MUST know CF or PHP to do Remoting in either is understood. I don't know Perl so I can't comment on Remoting + Perl. No arguments man. To be blunt, your views seemed limited and pointed to facts that weren't so (remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult.). All I'm saying is if you have a working knowledge of php classes amfphp is not hard. Obviously you would need a working knowledge of Actionscript as well. If you want to take this off list we can no doubt do so. Have a good one... On 2/27/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you just want to argue for the sake of arguing, than I'll just gracefully bow out, but if you think that novices have the first clue when it comes to ECMA... you should try teaching them. Their implementation was flawed for the first 7 releases and though I commend them on their achievement, I can't believe that the functionality they're providing is even comparable to CF, which is what I consider easy. I'm done and out. !k -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 You don't have to use nested associate arrays. You can use numerical or associate. CF Stucts are nothing but associate arrays anyway. If you know how to use PHP classes then you know at least what an array is. You can return virtually any type in php to Flash. In the latest version you have more types you can return (including xml). http://www.amfphp.org/docs/datatypes.html So you know, when I first used AMFPHP I didn't know PHP that well. I was the definition of novice, in terms of PHP. But PHP classes are similar to ECMA classes so it wasn't hard to catch on. If you aren't a PHP developer then PHP itself is the problem...not AMFPHP. If you don't know CF then CF is the problem...not Remoting w/ CF. PHP's learning curve is somewhat steep. The issue with AMFPHP was the documentation was horrible at that point in the game (early versions) so the installation portion was a pain. Everything dealt with server-wide installation on Apache so it was terribly confusing. Once I figured out it was just a folder everything else was a piece of cake. On 2/26/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It depends what kind of implementation you're trying to accomplish. My point is that for someone without a lot of PHP experience, the nested associative arrays can intimidating. You seem to assume your views based on your own knowledge and skills, and that's fine. I judge software based on what an absolute novice would think... Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step than CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation anyway. :-) On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view
RE: Getting data into Flash 8
No worries. I misinterpreted what you meant. I've taught countless novices and from what I've seen, I always get the impression that professional developers underestimate their own skillsets and assume that others will pick things up just as quickly. My experience with AMFPHP started on version 0.1 and I've used it on many projects since, but a lot of issues it had (until this latest release) like the Netconnection.Bad.Version error that plagued everyone who's ever used it, adds to the complexity. Anyhow, no harm no foul. Kevin -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 2:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 In no way am I trying to argue. That's why I hate email for discussions, in most cases. I'm simply providing another view that is opposite of yours. A novice ECMA developer should know something about ECMA. It would be stupid for me to think a novice CF developer should know something about an ECMA language if that is the only language they know. No one is comparing anything to CF in terms of ease. I compared Remoting + CF with AMFPHP and said they are equally simple, except for the method table in amfphp. The simple understanding that you MUST know CF or PHP to do Remoting in either is understood. I don't know Perl so I can't comment on Remoting + Perl. No arguments man. To be blunt, your views seemed limited and pointed to facts that weren't so (remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult.). All I'm saying is if you have a working knowledge of php classes amfphp is not hard. Obviously you would need a working knowledge of Actionscript as well. If you want to take this off list we can no doubt do so. Have a good one... On 2/27/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you just want to argue for the sake of arguing, than I'll just gracefully bow out, but if you think that novices have the first clue when it comes to ECMA... you should try teaching them. Their implementation was flawed for the first 7 releases and though I commend them on their achievement, I can't believe that the functionality they're providing is even comparable to CF, which is what I consider easy. I'm done and out. !k -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 You don't have to use nested associate arrays. You can use numerical or associate. CF Stucts are nothing but associate arrays anyway. If you know how to use PHP classes then you know at least what an array is. You can return virtually any type in php to Flash. In the latest version you have more types you can return (including xml). http://www.amfphp.org/docs/datatypes.html So you know, when I first used AMFPHP I didn't know PHP that well. I was the definition of novice, in terms of PHP. But PHP classes are similar to ECMA classes so it wasn't hard to catch on. If you aren't a PHP developer then PHP itself is the problem...not AMFPHP. If you don't know CF then CF is the problem...not Remoting w/ CF. PHP's learning curve is somewhat steep. The issue with AMFPHP was the documentation was horrible at that point in the game (early versions) so the installation portion was a pain. Everything dealt with server-wide installation on Apache so it was terribly confusing. Once I figured out it was just a folder everything else was a piece of cake. On 2/26/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It depends what kind of implementation you're trying to accomplish. My point is that for someone without a lot of PHP experience, the nested associative arrays can intimidating. You seem to assume your views based on your own knowledge and skills, and that's fine. I judge software based on what an absolute novice would think... Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step than CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation anyway. :-) On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? !//-- andy
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
Coo...glad we could get that squared away. :-) Oh yeah, that error was HORRIBLE! I hated it. The latest version is MUCH smoother too man. It is very slick. On 2/27/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No worries. I misinterpreted what you meant. I've taught countless novices and from what I've seen, I always get the impression that professional developers underestimate their own skillsets and assume that others will pick things up just as quickly. My experience with AMFPHP started on version 0.1 and I've used it on many projects since, but a lot of issues it had (until this latest release) like the Netconnection.Bad.Version error that plagued everyone who's ever used it, adds to the complexity. Anyhow, no harm no foul. Kevin -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 2:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 In no way am I trying to argue. That's why I hate email for discussions, in most cases. I'm simply providing another view that is opposite of yours. A novice ECMA developer should know something about ECMA. It would be stupid for me to think a novice CF developer should know something about an ECMA language if that is the only language they know. No one is comparing anything to CF in terms of ease. I compared Remoting + CF with AMFPHP and said they are equally simple, except for the method table in amfphp. The simple understanding that you MUST know CF or PHP to do Remoting in either is understood. I don't know Perl so I can't comment on Remoting + Perl. No arguments man. To be blunt, your views seemed limited and pointed to facts that weren't so (remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult.). All I'm saying is if you have a working knowledge of php classes amfphp is not hard. Obviously you would need a working knowledge of Actionscript as well. If you want to take this off list we can no doubt do so. Have a good one... On 2/27/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you just want to argue for the sake of arguing, than I'll just gracefully bow out, but if you think that novices have the first clue when it comes to ECMA... you should try teaching them. Their implementation was flawed for the first 7 releases and though I commend them on their achievement, I can't believe that the functionality they're providing is even comparable to CF, which is what I consider easy. I'm done and out. !k -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 You don't have to use nested associate arrays. You can use numerical or associate. CF Stucts are nothing but associate arrays anyway. If you know how to use PHP classes then you know at least what an array is. You can return virtually any type in php to Flash. In the latest version you have more types you can return (including xml). http://www.amfphp.org/docs/datatypes.html So you know, when I first used AMFPHP I didn't know PHP that well. I was the definition of novice, in terms of PHP. But PHP classes are similar to ECMA classes so it wasn't hard to catch on. If you aren't a PHP developer then PHP itself is the problem...not AMFPHP. If you don't know CF then CF is the problem...not Remoting w/ CF. PHP's learning curve is somewhat steep. The issue with AMFPHP was the documentation was horrible at that point in the game (early versions) so the installation portion was a pain. Everything dealt with server-wide installation on Apache so it was terribly confusing. Once I figured out it was just a folder everything else was a piece of cake. On 2/26/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It depends what kind of implementation you're trying to accomplish. My point is that for someone without a lot of PHP experience, the nested associative arrays can intimidating. You seem to assume your views based on your own knowledge and skills, and that's fine. I judge software based on what an absolute novice would think... Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step than CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation anyway. :-) On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
As far as the patent goes, yes MM was letting it slide but as we know MM is no more and Adobe isn't so lenient with their copyrights, which as far as i know isn't just remoting it's for the AMF format, so technically speaking AMFPHP is running on Adobe's patent. My point to it is, what are all these people going to do that are running it IF Adobe decides to pull the pull on them using it? Not trying to dog it just being realistic. So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge. Yeah but that was because of prior problems, I remember several hosts telling me no way they'd put it on a shared server one was more like HELL F*CK NO YOU AINT COMING ANYWHERE NEAR MY F*CKIN SERVERS WITH THAT SH*T!! haha ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:50 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Hosts had no control over amfphp. The install process was greatly misconstrued by many people. All you had to do was copy 1 folder to your site root and point the gateway.php file to your class location. That was it. As for copyrights, etc MM has widely made it known how they feel about amfphp which is they are fine with it. They never had an issue with it and doubt they ever will. AMF goes beyond Flash Remoting so I don't know anything about copyrights either company owns. Yes, a full version has been released and it has GREAT improvements! The documentation is improved as well as the error messages. Check it out amfphp.org . So everyone knows, I am in no way affiliated with amphp folks and do prefer Remoting + CF. I just wanted it to be known that amfphp is just as easy, if you know PHP. So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge. Just my 2 cents... On 2/25/06, dave wrote: I know previously that amfphp wasnt to be used for commercial sites and that now adobe owns the copyrights on amf which would make a bit risky to use. Did it every get out of beta? I remember a lot of hosts wouldnt allow it to run since it was concidered a big security risk at the time. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step than CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation anyway. :-) On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig wrote: Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc hange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page=0scrollPos=0subc atid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13extid=1011923catid=0 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233497 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Getting data into Flash 8
It depends what kind of implementation you're trying to accomplish. My point is that for someone without a lot of PHP experience, the nested associative arrays can intimidating. You seem to assume your views based on your own knowledge and skills, and that's fine. I judge software based on what an absolute novice would think... Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step than CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation anyway. :-) On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc hange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page=0scrollPos=0subc atid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13extid=1011923catid=0 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233516 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
LOL. I'd like to talk to those hosts to see what their issue was. It is like them telling you no to putting Pear on the server. It isn't their call. You pay for space...put what you want on the server, as long as it is legal. As said, it doesn't take the host to install it. Again, amfphp is nothing more than a set of files you put on your server. Although Adobe has the patent I HIGHLY doubt they would nix other amf products. That will just limit Flash's use with other technologies which would be dumb. There is a free Remoting gateway for .net as well and about 2 or 3 for php. They would be dumb to stop it and I say they would never do it especially since MM was becoming so community driven and Adobe is continuing, and bettering it seems (hence the Flex 2 pricing, etc), to work with the community. IMO, Adobe will never tell everyone using amfphp they need to stop. As said, that would be dumb. On 2/26/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as the patent goes, yes MM was letting it slide but as we know MM is no more and Adobe isn't so lenient with their copyrights, which as far as i know isn't just remoting it's for the AMF format, so technically speaking AMFPHP is running on Adobe's patent. My point to it is, what are all these people going to do that are running it IF Adobe decides to pull the pull on them using it? Not trying to dog it just being realistic. So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge. Yeah but that was because of prior problems, I remember several hosts telling me no way they'd put it on a shared server one was more like HELL F*CK NO YOU AINT COMING ANYWHERE NEAR MY F*CKIN SERVERS WITH THAT SH*T!! haha ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:50 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Hosts had no control over amfphp. The install process was greatly misconstrued by many people. All you had to do was copy 1 folder to your site root and point the gateway.php file to your class location. That was it. As for copyrights, etc MM has widely made it known how they feel about amfphp which is they are fine with it. They never had an issue with it and doubt they ever will. AMF goes beyond Flash Remoting so I don't know anything about copyrights either company owns. Yes, a full version has been released and it has GREAT improvements! The documentation is improved as well as the error messages. Check it out amfphp.org . So everyone knows, I am in no way affiliated with amphp folks and do prefer Remoting + CF. I just wanted it to be known that amfphp is just as easy, if you know PHP. So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge. Just my 2 cents... On 2/25/06, dave wrote: I know previously that amfphp wasnt to be used for commercial sites and that now adobe owns the copyrights on amf which would make a bit risky to use. Did it every get out of beta? I remember a lot of hosts wouldnt allow it to run since it was concidered a big security risk at the time. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step than CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation anyway. :-) On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig wrote: Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc hange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
You don't have to use nested associate arrays. You can use numerical or associate. CF Stucts are nothing but associate arrays anyway. If you know how to use PHP classes then you know at least what an array is. You can return virtually any type in php to Flash. In the latest version you have more types you can return (including xml). http://www.amfphp.org/docs/datatypes.html So you know, when I first used AMFPHP I didn't know PHP that well. I was the definition of novice, in terms of PHP. But PHP classes are similar to ECMA classes so it wasn't hard to catch on. If you aren't a PHP developer then PHP itself is the problem...not AMFPHP. If you don't know CF then CF is the problem...not Remoting w/ CF. PHP's learning curve is somewhat steep. The issue with AMFPHP was the documentation was horrible at that point in the game (early versions) so the installation portion was a pain. Everything dealt with server-wide installation on Apache so it was terribly confusing. Once I figured out it was just a folder everything else was a piece of cake. On 2/26/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It depends what kind of implementation you're trying to accomplish. My point is that for someone without a lot of PHP experience, the nested associative arrays can intimidating. You seem to assume your views based on your own knowledge and skills, and that's fine. I judge software based on what an absolute novice would think... Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step than CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation anyway. :-) On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc hange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page=0scrollPos=0subc atid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13extid=1011923catid=0 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233518 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
I'd call them a good host or any in that matter who makes sure stuff (especially beta products) aren't installed on a shared production server. If your host lets you put whatever you want up, I would certain run like a mofo the other direction. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:59 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 LOL. I'd like to talk to those hosts to see what their issue was. It is like them telling you no to putting Pear on the server. It isn't their call. You pay for space...put what you want on the server, as long as it is legal. As said, it doesn't take the host to install it. Again, amfphp is nothing more than a set of files you put on your server. Although Adobe has the patent I HIGHLY doubt they would nix other amf products. That will just limit Flash's use with other technologies which would be dumb. There is a free Remoting gateway for .net as well and about 2 or 3 for php. They would be dumb to stop it and I say they would never do it especially since MM was becoming so community driven and Adobe is continuing, and bettering it seems (hence the Flex 2 pricing, etc), to work with the community. IMO, Adobe will never tell everyone using amfphp they need to stop. As said, that would be dumb. On 2/26/06, dave wrote: As far as the patent goes, yes MM was letting it slide but as we know MM is no more and Adobe isn't so lenient with their copyrights, which as far as i know isn't just remoting it's for the AMF format, so technically speaking AMFPHP is running on Adobe's patent. My point to it is, what are all these people going to do that are running it IF Adobe decides to pull the pull on them using it? Not trying to dog it just being realistic. So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge. Yeah but that was because of prior problems, I remember several hosts telling me no way they'd put it on a shared server one was more like HELL F*CK NO YOU AINT COMING ANYWHERE NEAR MY F*CKIN SERVERS WITH THAT SH*T!! haha ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Hosts had no control over amfphp. The install process was greatly misconstrued by many people. All you had to do was copy 1 folder to your site root and point the gateway.php file to your class location. That was it. As for copyrights, etc MM has widely made it known how they feel about amfphp which is they are fine with it. They never had an issue with it and doubt they ever will. AMF goes beyond Flash Remoting so I don't know anything about copyrights either company owns. Yes, a full version has been released and it has GREAT improvements! The documentation is improved as well as the error messages. Check it out amfphp.org . So everyone knows, I am in no way affiliated with amphp folks and do prefer Remoting + CF. I just wanted it to be known that amfphp is just as easy, if you know PHP. So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge. Just my 2 cents... On 2/25/06, dave wrote: I know previously that amfphp wasnt to be used for commercial sites and that now adobe owns the copyrights on amf which would make a bit risky to use. Did it every get out of beta? I remember a lot of hosts wouldnt allow it to run since it was concidered a big security risk at the time. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step than CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation anyway. :-) On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig wrote: Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
I don't want to go into a hosting dispute but any host who controls my content and/or files is a bad one. That means, any product I develop that is in beta stage can't be posted on their server which may be my testing environment. It just contradicts the idea of purchasing X GB's/mo (or mb's) for you to use for your own personal or business use if the content is filtered. That's utterly ludicrous for a host to do such a thing. These are just my opinions. I promise I won't respond to your hosting comments if you decide to respond to this. I know this post has gone WOT. Anyways, did you get the Remoting going? If you want side help I'd be more than willing to jump into Breeze and show you hands-on how to do it. Just let me know off list. Thanks, On 2/26/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd call them a good host or any in that matter who makes sure stuff (especially beta products) aren't installed on a shared production server. If your host lets you put whatever you want up, I would certain run like a mofo the other direction. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:59 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 LOL. I'd like to talk to those hosts to see what their issue was. It is like them telling you no to putting Pear on the server. It isn't their call. You pay for space...put what you want on the server, as long as it is legal. As said, it doesn't take the host to install it. Again, amfphp is nothing more than a set of files you put on your server. Although Adobe has the patent I HIGHLY doubt they would nix other amf products. That will just limit Flash's use with other technologies which would be dumb. There is a free Remoting gateway for .net as well and about 2 or 3 for php. They would be dumb to stop it and I say they would never do it especially since MM was becoming so community driven and Adobe is continuing, and bettering it seems (hence the Flex 2 pricing, etc), to work with the community. IMO, Adobe will never tell everyone using amfphp they need to stop. As said, that would be dumb. On 2/26/06, dave wrote: As far as the patent goes, yes MM was letting it slide but as we know MM is no more and Adobe isn't so lenient with their copyrights, which as far as i know isn't just remoting it's for the AMF format, so technically speaking AMFPHP is running on Adobe's patent. My point to it is, what are all these people going to do that are running it IF Adobe decides to pull the pull on them using it? Not trying to dog it just being realistic. So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge. Yeah but that was because of prior problems, I remember several hosts telling me no way they'd put it on a shared server one was more like HELL F*CK NO YOU AINT COMING ANYWHERE NEAR MY F*CKIN SERVERS WITH THAT SH*T!! haha ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Hosts had no control over amfphp. The install process was greatly misconstrued by many people. All you had to do was copy 1 folder to your site root and point the gateway.php file to your class location. That was it. As for copyrights, etc MM has widely made it known how they feel about amfphp which is they are fine with it. They never had an issue with it and doubt they ever will. AMF goes beyond Flash Remoting so I don't know anything about copyrights either company owns. Yes, a full version has been released and it has GREAT improvements! The documentation is improved as well as the error messages. Check it out amfphp.org . So everyone knows, I am in no way affiliated with amphp folks and do prefer Remoting + CF. I just wanted it to be known that amfphp is just as easy, if you know PHP. So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge. Just my 2 cents... On 2/25/06, dave wrote: I know previously that amfphp wasnt to be used for commercial sites and that now adobe owns the copyrights on amf which would make a bit risky to use. Did it every get out of beta? I remember a lot of hosts wouldnt allow it to run since it was concidered a big security risk at the time. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step than CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation anyway. :-) On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig wrote: Haha... remoting with PHP
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
Actually I didn't ask for help with remoting was just responding. As far as what you say about hosting, I totally disagree. If you are on a shared host in a production enviroment you shouldn't be allowed to do beta tests or anything even remotely close to that, do that on your dev machine or get your own server for your experiments. It's a production machine and not just yours but hundreds of other peoples as well and beta and experiments aren't for production servers, why would you think they are? Next time your server is crashing just think oh hey I bet that's someone testing their beta product or code, I'm sure your customers will be real happy with that answer when they ask whey their site is going down a lot, it's bad enough with ppl running bad code. Personally, I don't think it's off topic because we are talking about a technical issue and I would be curious to see what others say about it. I have been on servers that go down a lot and ppl say oh thats just coldfusion server but then I move to an new server and it purrs along with no problems then I find out it's because someones experimental code. Of course I could be wrong and shame on me for using a shared server and take the lumps and bumps but if everyone on a server had commen sense and didn't use it for their personal playground they wouldn't be crashing. If that's what you want get a dedicated server. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:35 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 I don't want to go into a hosting dispute but any host who controls my content and/or files is a bad one. That means, any product I develop that is in beta stage can't be posted on their server which may be my testing environment. It just contradicts the idea of purchasing X GB's/mo (or mb's) for you to use for your own personal or business use if the content is filtered. That's utterly ludicrous for a host to do such a thing. These are just my opinions. I promise I won't respond to your hosting comments if you decide to respond to this. I know this post has gone WOT. Anyways, did you get the Remoting going? If you want side help I'd be more than willing to jump into Breeze and show you hands-on how to do it. Just let me know off list. Thanks, On 2/26/06, dave wrote: I'd call them a good host or any in that matter who makes sure stuff (especially beta products) aren't installed on a shared production server. If your host lets you put whatever you want up, I would certain run like a mofo the other direction. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 LOL. I'd like to talk to those hosts to see what their issue was. It is like them telling you no to putting Pear on the server. It isn't their call. You pay for space...put what you want on the server, as long as it is legal. As said, it doesn't take the host to install it. Again, amfphp is nothing more than a set of files you put on your server. Although Adobe has the patent I HIGHLY doubt they would nix other amf products. That will just limit Flash's use with other technologies which would be dumb. There is a free Remoting gateway for .net as well and about 2 or 3 for php. They would be dumb to stop it and I say they would never do it especially since MM was becoming so community driven and Adobe is continuing, and bettering it seems (hence the Flex 2 pricing, etc), to work with the community. IMO, Adobe will never tell everyone using amfphp they need to stop. As said, that would be dumb. On 2/26/06, dave wrote: As far as the patent goes, yes MM was letting it slide but as we know MM is no more and Adobe isn't so lenient with their copyrights, which as far as i know isn't just remoting it's for the AMF format, so technically speaking AMFPHP is running on Adobe's patent. My point to it is, what are all these people going to do that are running it IF Adobe decides to pull the pull on them using it? Not trying to dog it just being realistic. So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge. Yeah but that was because of prior problems, I remember several hosts telling me no way they'd put it on a shared server one was more like HELL F*CK NO YOU AINT COMING ANYWHERE NEAR MY F*CKIN SERVERS WITH THAT SH*T!! haha ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Hosts had no control over amfphp. The install process was greatly misconstrued by many people. All you had to do was copy 1 folder to your site root and point the gateway.php file to your class location
RE: Getting data into Flash 8
If you just want to argue for the sake of arguing, than I'll just gracefully bow out, but if you think that novices have the first clue when it comes to ECMA... you should try teaching them. Their implementation was flawed for the first 7 releases and though I commend them on their achievement, I can't believe that the functionality they're providing is even comparable to CF, which is what I consider easy. I'm done and out. !k -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 You don't have to use nested associate arrays. You can use numerical or associate. CF Stucts are nothing but associate arrays anyway. If you know how to use PHP classes then you know at least what an array is. You can return virtually any type in php to Flash. In the latest version you have more types you can return (including xml). http://www.amfphp.org/docs/datatypes.html So you know, when I first used AMFPHP I didn't know PHP that well. I was the definition of novice, in terms of PHP. But PHP classes are similar to ECMA classes so it wasn't hard to catch on. If you aren't a PHP developer then PHP itself is the problem...not AMFPHP. If you don't know CF then CF is the problem...not Remoting w/ CF. PHP's learning curve is somewhat steep. The issue with AMFPHP was the documentation was horrible at that point in the game (early versions) so the installation portion was a pain. Everything dealt with server-wide installation on Apache so it was terribly confusing. Once I figured out it was just a folder everything else was a piece of cake. On 2/26/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It depends what kind of implementation you're trying to accomplish. My point is that for someone without a lot of PHP experience, the nested associative arrays can intimidating. You seem to assume your views based on your own knowledge and skills, and that's fine. I judge software based on what an absolute novice would think... Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step than CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation anyway. :-) On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc hange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page=0scrollPos=0subc atid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13extid=1011923catid=0 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233527 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step than CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation anyway. :-) On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc hange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page=0scrollPos=0subc atid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13extid=1011923catid=0 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233474 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
I know previously that amfphp wasnt to be used for commercial sites and that now adobe owns the copyrights on amf which would make a bit risky to use. Did it every get out of beta? I remember a lot of hosts wouldnt allow it to run since it was concidered a big security risk at the time. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:49 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step than CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation anyway. :-) On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig wrote: Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc hange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page=0scrollPos=0subc atid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13extid=1011923catid=0 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233477 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
Hosts had no control over amfphp. The install process was greatly misconstrued by many people. All you had to do was copy 1 folder to your site root and point the gateway.php file to your class location. That was it. As for copyrights, etc MM has widely made it known how they feel about amfphp which is they are fine with it. They never had an issue with it and doubt they ever will. AMF goes beyond Flash Remoting so I don't know anything about copyrights either company owns. Yes, a full version has been released and it has GREAT improvements! The documentation is improved as well as the error messages. Check it out amfphp.org http://www.amfphp.org. So everyone knows, I am in no way affiliated with amphp folks and do prefer Remoting + CF. I just wanted it to be known that amfphp is just as easy, if you know PHP. So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge. Just my 2 cents... On 2/25/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know previously that amfphp wasnt to be used for commercial sites and that now adobe owns the copyrights on amf which would make a bit risky to use. Did it every get out of beta? I remember a lot of hosts wouldnt allow it to run since it was concidered a big security risk at the time. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:49 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step than CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation anyway. :-) On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig wrote: Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc hange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page=0scrollPos=0subc atid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13extid=1011923catid=0 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233496 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Honestly? I don't understand any of that. There's not a bit of that
Actionscript that I recognize.
How is any of this code triggered?
Does this have to be run via a web browser or can it be run from within the
IDE?
Can I return a query object to Flash or does it have to be a structure?
I'm sorry to be so dense but WHY does MM have to make this so complex?
Something as simple as connecting to a database should, at this point, be a
drag and drop thing.
Anyway, I greatly appreciate your input to this point, but I'll just have to
come up with another method, passing in the values via the query string,
because I know that works.
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
It's using certain development idea's that complicate things for beginners
like using Delegates to handle listeners.
Here's a bare-bones example... comments included. Let me know if any of this
is confusing.
Cheers,
!k
/* - CODE-START --- */
import mx.remoting.*;
import mx.rpc.*;
import mx.remoting.debug.NetDebug;
// This is gatewayurl. Replace the 'my.serverdomain.com' with the domain of
// the server that is running your CFC
var gatewayUrl:String = http://my.serverdomain.com/flashservices/gateway;;
// This is the actual folder path to the service, only it's separated by
// dots instead of slashes.
// So this one, using the domain from above as an example would be
// 'http://my.serverdomain.com/test/services/testService.cfc'
var pathToComponent:String = test.services.testService;
// Initialize the gateway as well as the service
NetDebug.initialize();
var service:Service = new Service(gatewayUrl, null, pathToComponent);
function onClick()
{
var pc:PendingCall = service.testCall();
pc.responder = new RelayResponder(this, handleCallSuccess,
handleCallError);
}
function handleCallSuccess (result:ResultEvent)
{
// Deal with the data as you see fit. If you're unsure what kind of
// data you're getting back, take a
// look at the NetConnection Debugger. It can show you what the data
// looks like as well as the result and the calls
// being made.
}
function handleCallError(fe:FaultEvent)
{
// Look at the FaultEvent Object if you want to show any warnings or
// log the error.
// Flash's docs show some good examples how to easily get to and use
// this object.
}
/* - CODE-END --- */
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
By the way, I found a tutorial for Flash remoting that seems to be very
through. The problem is that it's for Flash MX and appears to use AS 2. The
code I've already got which duplicates my movie clips and all that is AS 2
so I'm guessing that I can't combine the two.
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flashremoting/articles/cfexample_04.html
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 9:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Honestly? I don't understand any of that. There's not a bit of that
Actionscript that I recognize.
How is any of this code triggered?
Does this have to be run via a web browser or can it be run from within the
IDE?
Can I return a query object to Flash or does it have to be a structure?
I'm sorry to be so dense but WHY does MM have to make this so complex?
Something as simple as connecting to a database should, at this point, be a
drag and drop thing.
Anyway, I greatly appreciate your input to this point, but I'll just have to
come up with another method, passing in the values via the query string,
because I know that works.
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
It's using certain development idea's that complicate things for beginners
like using Delegates to handle listeners.
Here's a bare-bones example... comments included. Let me know if any of this
is confusing.
Cheers,
!k
/* - CODE-START --- */
import mx.remoting.*;
import mx.rpc.*;
import mx.remoting.debug.NetDebug;
// This is gatewayurl. Replace the 'my.serverdomain.com' with the domain of
// the server that is running your CFC
var gatewayUrl:String = http://my.serverdomain.com/flashservices/gateway;;
// This is the actual folder path to the service, only it's separated by
// dots instead of slashes.
// So this one, using the domain from above as an example would be
// 'http://my.serverdomain.com/test/services/testService.cfc'
var pathToComponent:String = test.services.testService;
// Initialize the gateway as well as the service
NetDebug.initialize();
var service:Service = new Service(gatewayUrl, null, pathToComponent);
function onClick()
{
var pc:PendingCall = service.testCall();
pc.responder = new RelayResponder(this, handleCallSuccess,
handleCallError);
}
function handleCallSuccess (result:ResultEvent)
{
// Deal with the data as you see fit. If you're unsure what kind of
// data you're getting back, take a
// look at the NetConnection Debugger. It can show you what the data
// looks like as well as the result and the calls
// being made.
}
function handleCallError(fe:FaultEvent)
{
// Look at the FaultEvent Object if you want to show any warnings or
// log the error.
// Flash's docs show some good examples how to easily get to and use
// this object.
}
/* - CODE-END --- */
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Don't sweat it Andy... ActionScript has gotten a pretty steep learning curve
in the last 2 versions and it's a lot to take on. Now on to your
questions...
How is any of this code triggered?
--// The function onClick starts it all off. It triggers the
service.testCall() and sets to functions to handle whether it succeeds or
fails.//--
Does this have to be run via a web browser or can it be run from within the
IDE?
--// Both. It should run successfully in either. //--
Can I return a query object to Flash or does it have to be a structure?
--// It can be either actually. If you return back a Structure, it will look
like an object(associative) array in flash. So in CF, if you returned:
cfset obj = StructNew()
cfset obj.firstname = John
cfset obj.lastname = Doe
Then the result in Flash is:
function handleCallSuccess (result:ResultEvent){
// Dot syntax
trace (result.firstname);
trace (result.lastname);
// Array syntax
trace (result[firstname]);
trace (result[lastname]);
}
If the result is a query object, than you can look to result.items array,
which is the same as a CF array of structs.
//--
Anyway, I greatly appreciate your input to this point, but I'll just have to
come up with another method, passing in the values via the query string,
because I know that works.
--// Honestly, I know it's confusing, but don't give up. Once you understand
it, you'll save a *ton* of time. Remoting is definitely worth the hassle...
Cheers,
Kevin
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February 24, 2006 9:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Honestly? I don't understand any of that. There's not a bit of that
Actionscript that I recognize.
How is any of this code triggered?
Does this have to be run via a web browser or can it be run from within the
IDE?
Can I return a query object to Flash or does it have to be a structure?
I'm sorry to be so dense but WHY does MM have to make this so complex?
Something as simple as connecting to a database should, at this point, be a
drag and drop thing.
Anyway, I greatly appreciate your input to this point, but I'll just have to
come up with another method, passing in the values via the query string,
because I know that works.
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
It's using certain development idea's that complicate things for beginners
like using Delegates to handle listeners.
Here's a bare-bones example... comments included. Let me know if any of this
is confusing.
Cheers,
!k
/* - CODE-START --- */
import mx.remoting.*;
import mx.rpc.*;
import mx.remoting.debug.NetDebug;
// This is gatewayurl. Replace the 'my.serverdomain.com' with the domain of
// the server that is running your CFC
var gatewayUrl:String = http://my.serverdomain.com/flashservices/gateway;;
// This is the actual folder path to the service, only it's separated by
// dots instead of slashes.
// So this one, using the domain from above as an example would be
// 'http://my.serverdomain.com/test/services/testService.cfc'
var pathToComponent:String = test.services.testService;
// Initialize the gateway as well as the service
NetDebug.initialize();
var service:Service = new Service(gatewayUrl, null, pathToComponent);
function onClick()
{
var pc:PendingCall = service.testCall();
pc.responder = new RelayResponder(this, handleCallSuccess,
handleCallError);
}
function handleCallSuccess (result:ResultEvent)
{
// Deal with the data as you see fit. If you're unsure what kind of
// data you're getting back, take a
// look at the NetConnection Debugger. It can show you what the data
// looks like as well as the result and the calls
// being made.
}
function handleCallError(fe:FaultEvent)
{
// Look at the FaultEvent Object if you want to show any warnings or
// log the error.
// Flash's docs show some good examples how to easily get to and use
// this object.
}
/* - CODE-END --- */
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Whoa... are you doing this in AS1? Which version of Flash are you using?
!k
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February 24, 2006 9:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
By the way, I found a tutorial for Flash remoting that seems to be very
through. The problem is that it's for Flash MX and appears to use AS 2. The
code I've already got which duplicates my movie clips and all that is AS 2
so I'm guessing that I can't combine the two.
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flashremoting/articles/cfexample_04.html
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 9:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Honestly? I don't understand any of that. There's not a bit of that
Actionscript that I recognize.
How is any of this code triggered?
Does this have to be run via a web browser or can it be run from within the
IDE?
Can I return a query object to Flash or does it have to be a structure?
I'm sorry to be so dense but WHY does MM have to make this so complex?
Something as simple as connecting to a database should, at this point, be a
drag and drop thing.
Anyway, I greatly appreciate your input to this point, but I'll just have to
come up with another method, passing in the values via the query string,
because I know that works.
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
It's using certain development idea's that complicate things for beginners
like using Delegates to handle listeners.
Here's a bare-bones example... comments included. Let me know if any of this
is confusing.
Cheers,
!k
/* - CODE-START --- */
import mx.remoting.*;
import mx.rpc.*;
import mx.remoting.debug.NetDebug;
// This is gatewayurl. Replace the 'my.serverdomain.com' with the domain of
// the server that is running your CFC
var gatewayUrl:String = http://my.serverdomain.com/flashservices/gateway;;
// This is the actual folder path to the service, only it's separated by
// dots instead of slashes.
// So this one, using the domain from above as an example would be
// 'http://my.serverdomain.com/test/services/testService.cfc'
var pathToComponent:String = test.services.testService;
// Initialize the gateway as well as the service
NetDebug.initialize();
var service:Service = new Service(gatewayUrl, null, pathToComponent);
function onClick()
{
var pc:PendingCall = service.testCall();
pc.responder = new RelayResponder(this, handleCallSuccess,
handleCallError);
}
function handleCallSuccess (result:ResultEvent)
{
// Deal with the data as you see fit. If you're unsure what kind of
// data you're getting back, take a
// look at the NetConnection Debugger. It can show you what the data
// looks like as well as the result and the calls
// being made.
}
function handleCallError(fe:FaultEvent)
{
// Look at the FaultEvent Object if you want to show any warnings or
// log the error.
// Flash's docs show some good examples how to easily get to and use
// this object.
}
/* - CODE-END --- */
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science.
They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can
have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's
built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30
seconds.
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page=0scrollPos=0subcatid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13extid=1011923catid=0
I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or
specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B
or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well.
~Dave the disruptor~
From: Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:27 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Honestly? I don't understand any of that. There's not a bit of that
Actionscript that I recognize.
How is any of this code triggered?
Does this have to be run via a web browser or can it be run from within the
IDE?
Can I return a query object to Flash or does it have to be a structure?
I'm sorry to be so dense but WHY does MM have to make this so complex?
Something as simple as connecting to a database should, at this point, be a
drag and drop thing.
Anyway, I greatly appreciate your input to this point, but I'll just have to
come up with another method, passing in the values via the query string,
because I know that works.
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
It's using certain development idea's that complicate things for beginners
like using Delegates to handle listeners.
Here's a bare-bones example... comments included. Let me know if any of this
is confusing.
Cheers,
!k
/* - CODE-START --- */
import mx.remoting.*;
import mx.rpc.*;
import mx.remoting.debug.NetDebug;
// This is gatewayurl. Replace the 'my.serverdomain.com' with the domain of
// the server that is running your CFC
var gatewayUrl:String = http://my.serverdomain.com/flashservices/gateway;;
// This is the actual folder path to the service, only it's separated by
// dots instead of slashes.
// So this one, using the domain from above as an example would be
// 'http://my.serverdomain.com/test/services/testService.cfc'
var pathToComponent:String = test.services.testService;
// Initialize the gateway as well as the service
NetDebug.initialize();
var service:Service = new Service(gatewayUrl, null, pathToComponent);
function onClick()
{
var pc:PendingCall = service.testCall();
pc.responder = new RelayResponder(this, handleCallSuccess,
handleCallError);
}
function handleCallSuccess (result:ResultEvent)
{
// Deal with the data as you see fit. If you're unsure what kind of
// data you're getting back, take a
// look at the NetConnection Debugger. It can show you what the data
// looks like as well as the result and the calls
// being made.
}
function handleCallError(fe:FaultEvent)
{
// Look at the FaultEvent Object if you want to show any warnings or
// log the error.
// Flash's docs show some good examples how to easily get to and use
// this object.
}
/* - CODE-END --- */
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc hange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page=0scrollPos=0subc atid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13extid=1011923catid=0 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233414 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc hange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page=0scrollPos=0subc atid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13extid=1011923catid=0 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233418 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Getting data into Flash 8
In a lot of cases the drag/drop components for data integration in Flash actually require MORE work and code than doing it with code alone. The communitymx stuff is good to go through though! --- Kevin Graeme Cooperative Extension Technology Services University of Wisconsin-Extension -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn10 6viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=6063 9501page=0scrollPos=0subcatid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13ex tid=1011923catid=0 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233419 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Actually I agree. When the Remoting connector first came out, I tried it out without to much success. Aside from that, considering how often MM changes around the core framework for AS, I wouldn't put to much faith in their stability. !k -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 2:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 In a lot of cases the drag/drop components for data integration in Flash actually require MORE work and code than doing it with code alone. The communitymx stuff is good to go through though! --- Kevin Graeme Cooperative Extension Technology Services University of Wisconsin-Extension -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn10 6viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=6063 9501page=0scrollPos=0subcatid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13ex tid=1011923catid=0 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233424 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Really they don't make it complicated, you may feel that way now but they don't. You need to remember that flash with as2 is a VERY VERY powerful tool and it will take in any kind of data you can send to it, now if it was just made to only work with cfm it might be different but it's not. Actually when you start up flash you can choose to make a new remoting page which has most everything you need already added to the as code you just need to fill in your info. Also remoting isn't the only way to get data into flash, it's just the frickin best! Flash will take about anything you can come up with, as far as cfm is concerned it will take or push back to a plain cfc, a wsdl, xml, cfm page, query string, url string, hell cfm even has built in flash variables just for connecting to flash w/o remoting. If you really want to get into it, run out to barnes and noble and grab http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0735713820/sr=8-1/qid=1140813797/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-2614183-0514320?%5Fencoding=UTF8 really good book for coders on using flash. Seems daunting now but once you learn how much power flash has(especially with coldfusion) you'll feel like you are heading out to the lake for a boat ride with a bag full of x, a camcorder and a drunk pam anderson.. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:49 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc hange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page=0scrollPos=0subc atid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13extid=1011923catid=0 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233425 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Getting data into Flash 8
i agree to but the point is if he does get it connected that fast and easy (which it is for a basic connection) then it makes learning the proper way a lot easier and less daunting ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 3:44 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Actually I agree. When the Remoting connector first came out, I tried it out without to much success. Aside from that, considering how often MM changes around the core framework for AS, I wouldn't put to much faith in their stability. !k -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 2:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 In a lot of cases the drag/drop components for data integration in Flash actually require MORE work and code than doing it with code alone. The communitymx stuff is good to go through though! --- Kevin Graeme Cooperative Extension Technology Services University of Wisconsin-Extension -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn10 6viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=6063 9501page=0scrollPos=0subcatid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13ex tid=1011923catid=0 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233427 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Getting data into Flash 8
...bag full of x, a camcorder and a drunk pam Anderson. Now that Adobe owns flash, maybe they'll change the tag line to With Flash, you too can be a rock/porn star. !k -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 24, 2006 2:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Really they don't make it complicated, you may feel that way now but they don't. You need to remember that flash with as2 is a VERY VERY powerful tool and it will take in any kind of data you can send to it, now if it was just made to only work with cfm it might be different but it's not. Actually when you start up flash you can choose to make a new remoting page which has most everything you need already added to the as code you just need to fill in your info. Also remoting isn't the only way to get data into flash, it's just the frickin best! Flash will take about anything you can come up with, as far as cfm is concerned it will take or push back to a plain cfc, a wsdl, xml, cfm page, query string, url string, hell cfm even has built in flash variables just for connecting to flash w/o remoting. If you really want to get into it, run out to barnes and noble and grab http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0735713820/sr=8-1/qid=1140813797/ref=pd_bbs _1/104-2614183-0514320?%5Fencoding=UTF8 really good book for coders on using flash. Seems daunting now but once you learn how much power flash has(especially with coldfusion) you'll feel like you are heading out to the lake for a boat ride with a bag full of x, a camcorder and a drunk pam anderson.. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:49 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out. But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion. You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh? -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket science. They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you can have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in under 30 seconds. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc hange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page=0scrollPos=0subc atid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13extid=1011923catid=0 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com or specifically this one http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233428 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
only you, my friend, could come up with that analogy. but, i must admit, SOUNDS LIKE MORE FUN than anything I can come up with :) tw On 2/24/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems daunting now but once you learn how much power flash has(especially with coldfusion) you'll feel like you are heading out to the lake for a boat ride with a bag full of x, a camcorder and a drunk pam anderson.. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233429 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Don't we have any cute girls in coldfusion we could reference? Plus, I don't think Kate would so graciously allow the video cam part ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 4:01 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 eck...Pam Anderson? Say Kate Beckinsale and maybe I'd believe you. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233441 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
yeah well you are married! So I shoulda put one in there for the married fellas to, ok so it's be like: going over to your friend Steve house to help him clean his gutters aka going over to your friend Brads house to go to the titty bar but you can't tell the wife that ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 3:59 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 only you, my friend, could come up with that analogy. but, i must admit, SOUNDS LIKE MORE FUN than anything I can come up with :) tw On 2/24/06, dave wrote: Seems daunting now but once you learn how much power flash has(especially with coldfusion) you'll feel like you are heading out to the lake for a boat ride with a bag full of x, a camcorder and a drunk pam anderson.. ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233442 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Would have to be like If you are gunna get get busted balls out then at least use the new Adobe Flash Platform to delivery stunning high resolution footage with less bandwith, Sorry Tommy but size does matter, smaller is better on the New Adobe Flash Platform ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 3:57 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8 ...bag full of x, a camcorder and a drunk pam Anderson. Now that Adobe owns flash, maybe they'll change the tag line to With Flash, you too can be a rock/porn star. !k ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233443 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Getting data into Flash 8
this might be good
http://www.netdrims.com/flashsql.cfm
~Dave the disruptor~
From: Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:27 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Honestly? I don't understand any of that. There's not a bit of that
Actionscript that I recognize.
How is any of this code triggered?
Does this have to be run via a web browser or can it be run from within the
IDE?
Can I return a query object to Flash or does it have to be a structure?
I'm sorry to be so dense but WHY does MM have to make this so complex?
Something as simple as connecting to a database should, at this point, be a
drag and drop thing.
Anyway, I greatly appreciate your input to this point, but I'll just have to
come up with another method, passing in the values via the query string,
because I know that works.
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
It's using certain development idea's that complicate things for beginners
like using Delegates to handle listeners.
Here's a bare-bones example... comments included. Let me know if any of this
is confusing.
Cheers,
!k
/* - CODE-START --- */
import mx.remoting.*;
import mx.rpc.*;
import mx.remoting.debug.NetDebug;
// This is gatewayurl. Replace the 'my.serverdomain.com' with the domain of
// the server that is running your CFC
var gatewayUrl:String = http://my.serverdomain.com/flashservices/gateway;;
// This is the actual folder path to the service, only it's separated by
// dots instead of slashes.
// So this one, using the domain from above as an example would be
// 'http://my.serverdomain.com/test/services/testService.cfc'
var pathToComponent:String = test.services.testService;
// Initialize the gateway as well as the service
NetDebug.initialize();
var service:Service = new Service(gatewayUrl, null, pathToComponent);
function onClick()
{
var pc:PendingCall = service.testCall();
pc.responder = new RelayResponder(this, handleCallSuccess,
handleCallError);
}
function handleCallSuccess (result:ResultEvent)
{
// Deal with the data as you see fit. If you're unsure what kind of
// data you're getting back, take a
// look at the NetConnection Debugger. It can show you what the data
// looks like as well as the result and the calls
// being made.
}
function handleCallError(fe:FaultEvent)
{
// Look at the FaultEvent Object if you want to show any warnings or
// log the error.
// Flash's docs show some good examples how to easily get to and use
// this object.
}
/* - CODE-END --- */
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
You haven't said what the problem is.
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 February 2006 20:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Getting data into Flash 8
I'm getting so freaking pissed at Flash and at Macromedia I can't see
straight.
I don't want to be one of those people who complains about changes in
programs but for God's sake Macromedia/Adobe leave something alone for at
LEAST one version!
That's my rant, but here's my problem. I'm trying to pass data into Flash by
calling a coldfusion page. That CF page returns this string:
?someVar0=Matt DusksomeVar1=The MonkeessomeVar2=TantricsomeVar3=Clay
WalkersomeVar4=ESPNsomeVar5=EMI-SparrowsomeVar6=Columbia
PicturessomeVar7=Verity/ZombasomeVar8=Dexter GreensomeVar9=John
JaszczsomeVar10=Mark WrightsomeVar11=Kurt Carr
The code in Flash which calls this page looks like this (copied from the
Intertron):
var myNames:LoadVars = new LoadVars();
myNames.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) {
if (success) {
var idArray = [];
for (i=0; i12; i++) {
trace(_root.someVar5);
idArray.push(eval(_root.someVar+i));
}
}
};
myNames.sendAndLoad(getNames.cfm, myNames, POST);
I'm trying to put each of the variables from the data string into an Array
so that I can loop over that array later in the code. That final part of the
code already works, but I need a valid array that can be fed to it.
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
You're right. I was so irritated that I forgot to add that part.
I'm trying to add the variables from the incoming data string to the
idArray. But when I loop over it, each var shows as undefined.
!//--
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-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
You haven't said what the problem is.
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 February 2006 20:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Getting data into Flash 8
I'm getting so freaking pissed at Flash and at Macromedia I can't see
straight.
I don't want to be one of those people who complains about changes in
programs but for God's sake Macromedia/Adobe leave something alone for at
LEAST one version!
That's my rant, but here's my problem. I'm trying to pass data into Flash by
calling a coldfusion page. That CF page returns this string:
?someVar0=Matt DusksomeVar1=The MonkeessomeVar2=TantricsomeVar3=Clay
WalkersomeVar4=ESPNsomeVar5=EMI-SparrowsomeVar6=Columbia
PicturessomeVar7=Verity/ZombasomeVar8=Dexter GreensomeVar9=John
JaszczsomeVar10=Mark WrightsomeVar11=Kurt Carr
The code in Flash which calls this page looks like this (copied from the
Intertron):
var myNames:LoadVars = new LoadVars();
myNames.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) {
if (success) {
var idArray = [];
for (i=0; i12; i++) {
trace(_root.someVar5);
idArray.push(eval(_root.someVar+i));
}
}
};
myNames.sendAndLoad(getNames.cfm, myNames, POST);
I'm trying to put each of the variables from the data string into an Array
so that I can loop over that array later in the code. That final part of the
code already works, but I need a valid array that can be fed to it.
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
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615.370.1530 x737
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Ahh right so Ted.
If you're doing this in the Flash IDE, it will access the .cfm page via the
file system so you'll get back the CFML code instead of what you expect.
If that's not the problem and if it's failing in the broswer (HTTP, not the
file system), then you should see if it really is returning the string you
think it is.
Another problem which the above will check, is that if you;re running a Dev
Net edition of CF then you'll get some meta tags in the output.
Adrian
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 February 2006 20:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
You're right. I was so irritated that I forgot to add that part.
I'm trying to add the variables from the incoming data string to the
idArray. But when I loop over it, each var shows as undefined.
!//--
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web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
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-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
You haven't said what the problem is.
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 February 2006 20:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Getting data into Flash 8
I'm getting so freaking pissed at Flash and at Macromedia I can't see
straight.
I don't want to be one of those people who complains about changes in
programs but for God's sake Macromedia/Adobe leave something alone for at
LEAST one version!
That's my rant, but here's my problem. I'm trying to pass data into Flash by
calling a coldfusion page. That CF page returns this string:
?someVar0=Matt DusksomeVar1=The MonkeessomeVar2=TantricsomeVar3=Clay
WalkersomeVar4=ESPNsomeVar5=EMI-SparrowsomeVar6=Columbia
PicturessomeVar7=Verity/ZombasomeVar8=Dexter GreensomeVar9=John
JaszczsomeVar10=Mark WrightsomeVar11=Kurt Carr
The code in Flash which calls this page looks like this (copied from the
Intertron):
var myNames:LoadVars = new LoadVars();
myNames.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) {
if (success) {
var idArray = [];
for (i=0; i12; i++) {
trace(_root.someVar5);
idArray.push(eval(_root.someVar+i));
}
}
};
myNames.sendAndLoad(getNames.cfm, myNames, POST);
I'm trying to put each of the variables from the data string into an Array
so that I can loop over that array later in the code. That final part of the
code already works, but I need a valid array that can be fed to it.
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
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Re: Getting data into Flash 8
You probably need to de-url it. Remember, you are loading a URL string so
you'll prob have %20's, etc in there.
On 2/23/06, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You haven't said what the problem is.
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 February 2006 20:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Getting data into Flash 8
I'm getting so freaking pissed at Flash and at Macromedia I can't see
straight.
I don't want to be one of those people who complains about changes in
programs but for God's sake Macromedia/Adobe leave something alone for at
LEAST one version!
That's my rant, but here's my problem. I'm trying to pass data into Flash
by
calling a coldfusion page. That CF page returns this string:
?someVar0=Matt DusksomeVar1=The MonkeessomeVar2=TantricsomeVar3=Clay
WalkersomeVar4=ESPNsomeVar5=EMI-SparrowsomeVar6=Columbia
PicturessomeVar7=Verity/ZombasomeVar8=Dexter GreensomeVar9=John
JaszczsomeVar10=Mark WrightsomeVar11=Kurt Carr
The code in Flash which calls this page looks like this (copied from the
Intertron):
var myNames:LoadVars = new LoadVars();
myNames.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) {
if (success) {
var idArray = [];
for (i=0; i12; i++) {
trace(_root.someVar5);
idArray.push(eval(_root.someVar+i));
}
}
};
myNames.sendAndLoad(getNames.cfm, myNames, POST);
I'm trying to put each of the variables from the data string into an Array
so that I can loop over that array later in the code. That final part of
the
code already works, but I need a valid array that can be fed to it.
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
!//--
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web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
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615.370.1530 x737
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Ah...I gotcha. I am trying to run this from within Flash itself. I hadn't
thought about that Adrian. I'll check that out shortly. Thanks for making
that suggestion.
!//--
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-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Ahh right so Ted.
If you're doing this in the Flash IDE, it will access the .cfm page via the
file system so you'll get back the CFML code instead of what you expect.
If that's not the problem and if it's failing in the broswer (HTTP, not the
file system), then you should see if it really is returning the string you
think it is.
Another problem which the above will check, is that if you;re running a Dev
Net edition of CF then you'll get some meta tags in the output.
Adrian
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 February 2006 20:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
You're right. I was so irritated that I forgot to add that part.
I'm trying to add the variables from the incoming data string to the
idArray. But when I loop over it, each var shows as undefined.
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-
-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
You haven't said what the problem is.
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 February 2006 20:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Getting data into Flash 8
I'm getting so freaking pissed at Flash and at Macromedia I can't see
straight.
I don't want to be one of those people who complains about changes in
programs but for God's sake Macromedia/Adobe leave something alone for at
LEAST one version!
That's my rant, but here's my problem. I'm trying to pass data into Flash by
calling a coldfusion page. That CF page returns this string:
?someVar0=Matt DusksomeVar1=The MonkeessomeVar2=TantricsomeVar3=Clay
WalkersomeVar4=ESPNsomeVar5=EMI-SparrowsomeVar6=Columbia
PicturessomeVar7=Verity/ZombasomeVar8=Dexter GreensomeVar9=John
JaszczsomeVar10=Mark WrightsomeVar11=Kurt Carr
The code in Flash which calls this page looks like this (copied from the
Intertron):
var myNames:LoadVars = new LoadVars();
myNames.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) {
if (success) {
var idArray = [];
for (i=0; i12; i++) {
trace(_root.someVar5);
idArray.push(eval(_root.someVar+i));
}
}
};
myNames.sendAndLoad(getNames.cfm, myNames, POST);
I'm trying to put each of the variables from the data string into an Array
so that I can loop over that array later in the code. That final part of the
code already works, but I need a valid array that can be fed to it.
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Here's an even better idea. Why not use a CFC and use Flash remoting to get
the data. It's way more clean...
What version of Flash and CF are you using?
!K
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February 23, 2006 2:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Getting data into Flash 8
I'm getting so freaking pissed at Flash and at Macromedia I can't see
straight.
I don't want to be one of those people who complains about changes in
programs but for God's sake Macromedia/Adobe leave something alone for at
LEAST one version!
That's my rant, but here's my problem. I'm trying to pass data into Flash by
calling a coldfusion page. That CF page returns this string:
?someVar0=Matt DusksomeVar1=The MonkeessomeVar2=TantricsomeVar3=Clay
WalkersomeVar4=ESPNsomeVar5=EMI-SparrowsomeVar6=Columbia
PicturessomeVar7=Verity/ZombasomeVar8=Dexter GreensomeVar9=John
JaszczsomeVar10=Mark WrightsomeVar11=Kurt Carr
The code in Flash which calls this page looks like this (copied from the
Intertron):
var myNames:LoadVars = new LoadVars();
myNames.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) {
if (success) {
var idArray = [];
for (i=0; i12; i++) {
trace(_root.someVar5);
idArray.push(eval(_root.someVar+i));
}
}
};
myNames.sendAndLoad(getNames.cfm, myNames, POST);
I'm trying to put each of the variables from the data string into an Array
so that I can loop over that array later in the code. That final part of the
code already works, but I need a valid array that can be fed to it.
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
I have Flash 8 and I'd prefer to use remoting but I don't know how.. I've
looked for tutes on Flash remoting but can't find anything straight-forward.
Do you have any links you'd care to share with the class?
!//--
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web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Here's an even better idea. Why not use a CFC and use Flash remoting to get
the data. It's way more clean...
What version of Flash and CF are you using?
!K
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February 23, 2006 2:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Getting data into Flash 8
I'm getting so freaking pissed at Flash and at Macromedia I can't see
straight.
I don't want to be one of those people who complains about changes in
programs but for God's sake Macromedia/Adobe leave something alone for at
LEAST one version!
That's my rant, but here's my problem. I'm trying to pass data into Flash by
calling a coldfusion page. That CF page returns this string:
?someVar0=Matt DusksomeVar1=The MonkeessomeVar2=TantricsomeVar3=Clay
WalkersomeVar4=ESPNsomeVar5=EMI-SparrowsomeVar6=Columbia
PicturessomeVar7=Verity/ZombasomeVar8=Dexter GreensomeVar9=John
JaszczsomeVar10=Mark WrightsomeVar11=Kurt Carr
The code in Flash which calls this page looks like this (copied from the
Intertron):
var myNames:LoadVars = new LoadVars();
myNames.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) {
if (success) {
var idArray = [];
for (i=0; i12; i++) {
trace(_root.someVar5);
idArray.push(eval(_root.someVar+i));
}
}
};
myNames.sendAndLoad(getNames.cfm, myNames, POST);
I'm trying to put each of the variables from the data string into an Array
so that I can loop over that array later in the code. That final part of the
code already works, but I need a valid array that can be fed to it.
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
O Christmas came early for you this year. Gimme a few and I'll whip up an
example... =]
!k
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February 23, 2006 3:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
I have Flash 8 and I'd prefer to use remoting but I don't know how.. I've
looked for tutes on Flash remoting but can't find anything straight-forward.
Do you have any links you'd care to share with the class?
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Here's an even better idea. Why not use a CFC and use Flash remoting to get
the data. It's way more clean...
What version of Flash and CF are you using?
!K
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February 23, 2006 2:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Getting data into Flash 8
I'm getting so freaking pissed at Flash and at Macromedia I can't see
straight.
I don't want to be one of those people who complains about changes in
programs but for God's sake Macromedia/Adobe leave something alone for at
LEAST one version!
That's my rant, but here's my problem. I'm trying to pass data into Flash by
calling a coldfusion page. That CF page returns this string:
?someVar0=Matt DusksomeVar1=The MonkeessomeVar2=TantricsomeVar3=Clay
WalkersomeVar4=ESPNsomeVar5=EMI-SparrowsomeVar6=Columbia
PicturessomeVar7=Verity/ZombasomeVar8=Dexter GreensomeVar9=John
JaszczsomeVar10=Mark WrightsomeVar11=Kurt Carr
The code in Flash which calls this page looks like this (copied from the
Intertron):
var myNames:LoadVars = new LoadVars();
myNames.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) {
if (success) {
var idArray = [];
for (i=0; i12; i++) {
trace(_root.someVar5);
idArray.push(eval(_root.someVar+i));
}
}
};
myNames.sendAndLoad(getNames.cfm, myNames, POST);
I'm trying to put each of the variables from the data string into an Array
so that I can loop over that array later in the code. That final part of the
code already works, but I need a valid array that can be fed to it.
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
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Re: Getting data into Flash 8
I posted this on a different thread earlier but the site isn't showing it
(maybe because of the attachment) so here it goes again.
Remoting is quite simple but it has be convoluted with a million different
ways of doing it. Download the zip
filehttp://blogs.katapultmedia.com/jb2/assets/resources/km.zip;
has 1 custom class that will handle everything for you. Here is how you use
it.
1) Extract the file (keep the current path structure
[km/connection/Remoting.as]
or simply rename the class
2) Use the following AS:
import km.connection.Remoting;
import mx.utils.Delegate;
//path to your gateway
Remoting.instance.gateway = http://www.mysite.com/flashservices/gateway ;
//path to your cfc's from your site root
Remoting.instance.package = assets.cfcs.; //don't forget the final period
function myResult(result){
//here is your result
}
function myFault(fault){
//here is your fault
}
//make a call to your test.cfc's helloWorld function
Remoting.instance.trigger(test.helloWorld, Delegate.create(this,
myResult), Delegate.create(this, myFault));
//pass a string to your echo.cfc 's sayThis function
Remoting.instance.trigger(echo.sayThis, Delegate.create(this, myResult),
Delegate.create(this, myFault), My name is Andy.);
That will do it for you. The Delegate class is used for scoping purposes.
You can have as many result or fault functions as you would like. This class
isn't done 100% but it gets the job done. I've used it on a couple projects
(Remoting + CF and Remoting + PHP) with no probs @ all. Make sure you have
the Remoting components/classes installed (
http://www.macromedia.com/go/flashremoting).
Hope this helps
On 2/23/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have Flash 8 and I'd prefer to use remoting but I don't know how.. I've
looked for tutes on Flash remoting but can't find anything
straight-forward.
Do you have any links you'd care to share with the class?
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Here's an even better idea. Why not use a CFC and use Flash remoting to
get
the data. It's way more clean...
What version of Flash and CF are you using?
!K
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February 23, 2006 2:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Getting data into Flash 8
I'm getting so freaking pissed at Flash and at Macromedia I can't see
straight.
I don't want to be one of those people who complains about changes in
programs but for God's sake Macromedia/Adobe leave something alone for at
LEAST one version!
That's my rant, but here's my problem. I'm trying to pass data into Flash
by
calling a coldfusion page. That CF page returns this string:
?someVar0=Matt DusksomeVar1=The MonkeessomeVar2=TantricsomeVar3=Clay
WalkersomeVar4=ESPNsomeVar5=EMI-SparrowsomeVar6=Columbia
PicturessomeVar7=Verity/ZombasomeVar8=Dexter GreensomeVar9=John
JaszczsomeVar10=Mark WrightsomeVar11=Kurt Carr
The code in Flash which calls this page looks like this (copied from the
Intertron):
var myNames:LoadVars = new LoadVars();
myNames.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) {
if (success) {
var idArray = [];
for (i=0; i12; i++) {
trace(_root.someVar5);
idArray.push(eval(_root.someVar+i));
}
}
};
myNames.sendAndLoad(getNames.cfm, myNames, POST);
I'm trying to put each of the variables from the data string into an Array
so that I can loop over that array later in the code. That final part of
the
code already works, but I need a valid array that can be fed to it.
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
It's using certain development idea's that complicate things for beginners
like using Delegates to handle listeners.
Here's a bare-bones example... comments included. Let me know if any of this
is confusing.
Cheers,
!k
/* - CODE-START --- */
import mx.remoting.*;
import mx.rpc.*;
import mx.remoting.debug.NetDebug;
// This is gatewayurl. Replace the 'my.serverdomain.com' with the domain of
// the server that is running your CFC
var gatewayUrl:String = http://my.serverdomain.com/flashservices/gateway;;
// This is the actual folder path to the service, only it's separated by
// dots instead of slashes.
// So this one, using the domain from above as an example would be
// 'http://my.serverdomain.com/test/services/testService.cfc'
var pathToComponent:String = test.services.testService;
// Initialize the gateway as well as the service
NetDebug.initialize();
var service:Service = new Service(gatewayUrl, null, pathToComponent);
function onClick()
{
var pc:PendingCall = service.testCall();
pc.responder = new RelayResponder(this, handleCallSuccess,
handleCallError);
}
function handleCallSuccess (result:ResultEvent)
{
// Deal with the data as you see fit. If you're unsure what kind of
// data you're getting back, take a
// look at the NetConnection Debugger. It can show you what the data
// looks like as well as the result and the calls
// being made.
}
function handleCallError(fe:FaultEvent)
{
// Look at the FaultEvent Object if you want to show any warnings or
// log the error.
// Flash's docs show some good examples how to easily get to and use
// this object.
}
/* - CODE-END --- */
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
You rocketh sir...
I've already got the code for the CFC...just need the Flash code.
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
O Christmas came early for you this year. Gimme a few and I'll whip up an
example... =]
!k
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February 23, 2006 3:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
I have Flash 8 and I'd prefer to use remoting but I don't know how.. I've
looked for tutes on Flash remoting but can't find anything straight-forward.
Do you have any links you'd care to share with the class?
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Here's an even better idea. Why not use a CFC and use Flash remoting to get
the data. It's way more clean...
What version of Flash and CF are you using?
!K
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February 23, 2006 2:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Getting data into Flash 8
I'm getting so freaking pissed at Flash and at Macromedia I can't see
straight.
I don't want to be one of those people who complains about changes in
programs but for God's sake Macromedia/Adobe leave something alone for at
LEAST one version!
That's my rant, but here's my problem. I'm trying to pass data into Flash by
calling a coldfusion page. That CF page returns this string:
?someVar0=Matt DusksomeVar1=The MonkeessomeVar2=TantricsomeVar3=Clay
WalkersomeVar4=ESPNsomeVar5=EMI-SparrowsomeVar6=Columbia
PicturessomeVar7=Verity/ZombasomeVar8=Dexter GreensomeVar9=John
JaszczsomeVar10=Mark WrightsomeVar11=Kurt Carr
The code in Flash which calls this page looks like this (copied from the
Intertron):
var myNames:LoadVars = new LoadVars();
myNames.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) {
if (success) {
var idArray = [];
for (i=0; i12; i++) {
trace(_root.someVar5);
idArray.push(eval(_root.someVar+i));
}
}
};
myNames.sendAndLoad(getNames.cfm, myNames, POST);
I'm trying to put each of the variables from the data string into an Array
so that I can loop over that array later in the code. That final part of the
code already works, but I need a valid array that can be fed to it.
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-
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Re: Getting data into Flash 8
Do you mean my example above is too complex? Delegates are super simple.
Delegate.create(scope, functionname)
You might not want to import the entire remoting and rpc package since
you're not using all of it. That is extra bloat that isn't needed.
On 2/23/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's using certain development idea's that complicate things for beginners
like using Delegates to handle listeners.
Here's a bare-bones example... comments included. Let me know if any of
this
is confusing.
Cheers,
!k
/* - CODE-START --- */
import mx.remoting.*;
import mx.rpc.*;
import mx.remoting.debug.NetDebug;
// This is gatewayurl. Replace the 'my.serverdomain.com' with the domain
of
// the server that is running your CFC
var gatewayUrl:String = http://my.serverdomain.com/flashservices/gateway
;
// This is the actual folder path to the service, only it's separated by
// dots instead of slashes.
// So this one, using the domain from above as an example would be
// 'http://my.serverdomain.com/test/services/testService.cfc'
var pathToComponent:String = test.services.testService;
// Initialize the gateway as well as the service
NetDebug.initialize();
var service:Service = new Service(gatewayUrl, null, pathToComponent);
function onClick()
{
var pc:PendingCall = service.testCall();
pc.responder = new RelayResponder(this, handleCallSuccess,
handleCallError);
}
function handleCallSuccess (result:ResultEvent)
{
// Deal with the data as you see fit. If you're unsure what kind
of
// data you're getting back, take a
// look at the NetConnection Debugger. It can show you what the
data
// looks like as well as the result and the calls
// being made.
}
function handleCallError(fe:FaultEvent)
{
// Look at the FaultEvent Object if you want to show any warnings
or
// log the error.
// Flash's docs show some good examples how to easily get to and
use
// this object.
}
/* - CODE-END --- */
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RE: Getting data into Flash 8
Delegates might be simple to those of us comfortable with ActionScript, but
I always try and keep it extremely cut and dry so that the example doesn't
try to show more that what it should.
Anyhow, I think both were pretty well the same, so no big deal. On a side
note, I actually always err on the side of caution when I do examples for
people. If he decides to add more advanced or in-depth features, than he
won't hit the wall of Why won't this work? when all it would take is an
import... plus because those classes are pretty lightweight, no harm no
foul.
Cheers,
Kevin
-Original Message-
From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8
Do you mean my example above is too complex? Delegates are super simple.
Delegate.create(scope, functionname)
You might not want to import the entire remoting and rpc package since
you're not using all of it. That is extra bloat that isn't needed.
On 2/23/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's using certain development idea's that complicate things for beginners
like using Delegates to handle listeners.
Here's a bare-bones example... comments included. Let me know if any of
this
is confusing.
Cheers,
!k
/* - CODE-START --- */
import mx.remoting.*;
import mx.rpc.*;
import mx.remoting.debug.NetDebug;
// This is gatewayurl. Replace the 'my.serverdomain.com' with the domain
of
// the server that is running your CFC
var gatewayUrl:String = http://my.serverdomain.com/flashservices/gateway
;
// This is the actual folder path to the service, only it's separated by
// dots instead of slashes.
// So this one, using the domain from above as an example would be
// 'http://my.serverdomain.com/test/services/testService.cfc'
var pathToComponent:String = test.services.testService;
// Initialize the gateway as well as the service
NetDebug.initialize();
var service:Service = new Service(gatewayUrl, null, pathToComponent);
function onClick()
{
var pc:PendingCall = service.testCall();
pc.responder = new RelayResponder(this, handleCallSuccess,
handleCallError);
}
function handleCallSuccess (result:ResultEvent)
{
// Deal with the data as you see fit. If you're unsure what kind
of
// data you're getting back, take a
// look at the NetConnection Debugger. It can show you what the
data
// looks like as well as the result and the calls
// being made.
}
function handleCallError(fe:FaultEvent)
{
// Look at the FaultEvent Object if you want to show any warnings
or
// log the error.
// Flash's docs show some good examples how to easily get to and
use
// this object.
}
/* - CODE-END --- */
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Re: Getting data into Flash 8
Kevin Aebig wrote: // 'http://my.serverdomain.com/test/services/testService.cfc' var pathToComponent:String = test.services.testService; it's kind of important to note that the CFC has to be web accessible, not a mapped dir. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233326 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Getting data into Flash 8
I understand what you are saying and agree but it shocked me to read the
part about Delegates and your example through service, pendingcall, and
relayresponder at him. The use of those 3 together seemed way more advanced
for him to learn than a Delegate.
All is well though. I guess it is preference. So you know, if you use custom
classes I strongly suggest you not import those classes into every class you
need remoting functionality. It will add tons of unneccessary bloat, hence
the creation of the Singleton I posted.
To each his own...hope he gets it going either way.
On 2/23/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Delegates might be simple to those of us comfortable with ActionScript,
but
I always try and keep it extremely cut and dry so that the example doesn't
try to show more that what it should.
Anyhow, I think both were pretty well the same, so no big deal. On a side
note, I actually always err on the side of caution when I do examples for
people. If he decides to add more advanced or in-depth features, than he
won't hit the wall of Why won't this work? when all it would take is an
import... plus because those classes are pretty lightweight, no harm no
foul.
Cheers,
Kevin
-Original Message-
From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8
Do you mean my example above is too complex? Delegates are super simple.
Delegate.create(scope, functionname)
You might not want to import the entire remoting and rpc package since
you're not using all of it. That is extra bloat that isn't needed.
On 2/23/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's using certain development idea's that complicate things for
beginners
like using Delegates to handle listeners.
Here's a bare-bones example... comments included. Let me know if any of
this
is confusing.
Cheers,
!k
/* - CODE-START --- */
import mx.remoting.*;
import mx.rpc.*;
import mx.remoting.debug.NetDebug;
// This is gatewayurl. Replace the 'my.serverdomain.com' with the domain
of
// the server that is running your CFC
var gatewayUrl:String =
http://my.serverdomain.com/flashservices/gateway
;
// This is the actual folder path to the service, only it's separated by
// dots instead of slashes.
// So this one, using the domain from above as an example would be
// 'http://my.serverdomain.com/test/services/testService.cfc'
var pathToComponent:String = test.services.testService;
// Initialize the gateway as well as the service
NetDebug.initialize();
var service:Service = new Service(gatewayUrl, null, pathToComponent);
function onClick()
{
var pc:PendingCall = service.testCall();
pc.responder = new RelayResponder(this, handleCallSuccess,
handleCallError);
}
function handleCallSuccess (result:ResultEvent)
{
// Deal with the data as you see fit. If you're unsure what kind
of
// data you're getting back, take a
// look at the NetConnection Debugger. It can show you what the
data
// looks like as well as the result and the calls
// being made.
}
function handleCallError(fe:FaultEvent)
{
// Look at the FaultEvent Object if you want to show any
warnings
or
// log the error.
// Flash's docs show some good examples how to easily get to and
use
// this object.
}
/* - CODE-END --- */
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