Re: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
And I still desperately want a checkbox in the preferences which allows me to _completely_ disable the design view, which MM seems to be _completely_ disinterested in offering me. DW is so closely tied to the design view that I find it frequently open in spite of never opening it myself -- I think just switching between working templates frequently activates split mode. (So I take it back, this is my big complaint -- the previous is my big wish.) You may try to hack the MMDocumentTypes.xml inside DW's configuration. Turn the internaltype attribute for CF documents from Dynamic to Text. This should force DW to disable design view based on file extension. Keep in mind, DW has multi user configuration: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_16420 No need to say it's better to back up first :-) Massimo Foti DW tools: http://www.massimocorner.com CF tools: http://www.olimpo.ch/tmt/ ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196061 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
At 12:01 PM 2/20/2005, you wrote: Though when I used CFS/HS+ I used the multi-file search feature more often than the standard search feature, even if I only used it against a single template. Iirc there was never a keyboard shortcut for this feature, so I always had to reach out to the mouse to open it, which I discovered bothered me after being initially very impressed with the feature. Instead of Control-R to search you can do Control-Shift-R for the extended search. I must have forgotten about this... It had been a while since I'd used CFS/HS+ when I got this job and I guess I never reacclimatized to it... The fact that DW places both search and search+replace on the same window and allows me to use ctrl+F to execute _any_ kind of search I might need is very convenient to me now. I hate the fact that Dreamweaver does not offer a find previous. I also wish there was a way to default the type of search features, such as search in template vs search in site.. I think it defaults to the last option you used. That's interesting... I actually never noticed that... Probably because I almost always perform multi-line search... so if I wanted to get find previous I would just find all in the current document, start at the bottom of the list and work my way up... which is what I almost always do. Dreamweaver's search scope defaults to the last selected search scope, until you select a directory in the file browser, at which point it changes the default to search within selected items. It's supposed to be intuitive. :P I actually like that myself because it feels easier to me to select a directory, hit ctrl+f and enter my search than to hit ctrl+f, grab my mouse, reset the select box and then enter my search. ... In retrospect, I'd probably feel differently about it if they used either radio buttons or a multi-line select box in the search dialog. ike ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195734 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
As far as I can tell the only difference between developer and designer views is which side of the screen your panel groups start on, and that the editor starts the first time in code or design view. After that, the editor opens in the last used view. I mostly have pretty good performance and I set mine up as designer view and then switch to code view on my first document (I prefer right hand navigation!). - Calvin -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 8:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all snip I use the Coder workspace... and I still have the problem constantly. Dunno why. ymmv obviously. s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/p49777853/ http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569DE=1 http://www.fusiontap.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195753 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 07:11:14 -0400, Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not trying to get anyone in trouble here, I just thought this was a REALLY interesting article from Forta. It was a great sanity check for me! http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/article.cfm?id=696 It's kinda old news... over a year old... So after reading it, what do most of you guys/gals use to build your apps? I use CFEclipse for all my back end code and DW for all my front end code... -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195633 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
It's kinda old news... over a year old... Old, but I missed it. Was beginning to wonder If I was the only one awake workin' this mornin'! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195634 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 07:54:28 -0400, Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was beginning to wonder If I was the only one awake workin' this mornin'! It's midnight in Sydney... -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195635 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
I remember some of these tool debates on what we use to build our projects, and the discussions on dw VS homesite VS plum, etc...etc.. Not trying to get anyone in trouble here, I just thought this was a REALLY interesting article from Forta. It was a great sanity check for me! http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/article.cfm?id=696 So after reading it, what do most of you guys/gals use to build your apps? me, dwmx all the way. Used homesite and didn't like it. dw is like cf to me, very comfy cozy. I've heard about it being a resource hog? Maybe so, but I have a big hogpen here, no problems with resource availability. I remember this article. Not a bad article, although I use exactly 0 of the features mentioned in it... When I introspect CFC's I don't use an IDE to introspect them because my CFC's aren't designed in such a way that introspection via DW, etc. would really be very helpful. As of yet I haven't found a need for SOAP in my own development, a CFC wizard isn't in my toolset because I just don't use wizards for anything, and debug output in an IDE tends to be much more useful to people who put all their code (or most of it) into a single base template with no required url variables. As I use a framework most of the time I'm not editing the base template and even if I were I'd have to provide url variables to the IDE in order to get the appropriate debug output which -- although I could be wrong -- I'm not aware DW has any facility for this. I do however still use Dreamweaver for all my development lately. I tried CFEclipse once and it trashed my project and was very difficult to work with. It's been a while since I tried it last though, and I might try it again now and see if it still treats the file system of all projects like Java projects (which is how mine got trashed). I used jEdit for a while and was really happy/impressed with some of the features -- the problem with jEdit in general though boiled down to SWING. It seems (again I could be wrong) impossible to produce a clean, fast, user-friendly IDE using the unadulterated SWING components. I was a big fan of ColdFusion Studio actually for a long time and I stuck with it pretty vehemently. These days I'm being asked to use Homesite+ where I work because of issues related to the way dreamweaver handles files across a network. Though for my own development, the features of DW that I've found to be _immensely_ superior to CF Studio / Homesite+ are the project deployment and search features. CF Studio / Homesite project deployment (which isn't used at the office) seemed pretty nice to me at the time until I had to deploy an exceptionally large project and discovered that there was apparently a memory leak or the like which required me to restart it after deploying the project to prevent bad things happening. In retrospect, beyond that obvious flaw, DW's ability to incrementally synchronize individual templates or directories via the context menu in the file browser is light-years ahead of the curve in terms of ease of use compared to CFS/HS+. Saying that the Search feature is one of the big selling points for me probably sounds a little silly. Though when I used CFS/HS+ I used the multi-file search feature more often than the standard search feature, even if I only used it against a single template. Iirc there was never a keyboard shortcut for this feature, so I always had to reach out to the mouse to open it, which I discovered bothered me after being initially very impressed with the feature. The fact that DW places both search and search+replace on the same window and allows me to use ctrl+F to execute _any_ kind of search I might need is very convenient to me now. And in all honesty, I've become rather fond of the single-tree file browser as opposed to the 2-paned file browsers in CFS/HS+. My only complaint has been that the project setting automatically upload files to server on save doesn't go far enough. This feature has saved me a lot of time synchronizing my projects, however, what I'd really _love_ is to have this feature extended to every file action performed via the context menu in the file menu or file browser (move/rename/delete). Rather than automatically upload files to server on save, I'd rather have automatically synchronize files when changed. I actually took the time to create a DW extension which did just this, except that DW doesn't offer any hooks in it's API for modifying the project preferences so I wasn't able to add the checkbox where I wanted it. In lieu of that I added a couple items to the file context menu for synch move, synch rename and synch delete. Unfortunately I could never make the extension's behavior 100% gracefull -- it was allways a bit squirrelly in comparison to DW's native features and it was never able to support projects across FTP or RDS properly (or at all IIRC). And I still desperately want a checkbox in the preferences which allows me to _completely_ disable the design
Re: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
Doesn't the CFC viewer in DWMX only work if you have RDS? I forced myself to go to DWMX this past June. After using it for so long, I have no real complaints. There still are some hot keys I'd like but always got a headache trying to find the right place to get them. Such as ctrl-Y to delete a line and I am sure if I fired up homesite+ and worked for a couple of hours I could list off a few others. I basically have just changed my style some to adjust to the differences. On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 09:35:43 -0500, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember this article. Not a bad article, although I use exactly 0 of the features mentioned in it... When I introspect CFC's I don't use an IDE to introspect them because my CFC's aren't designed in such a way that introspection via DW, etc. would really be very helpful. As of yet I haven't found a need for SOAP in my own development, a CFC wizard isn't in my toolset because I just don't use wizards for anything, and debug output in an IDE tends to be much more useful to people who put all their code (or most of it) into a single base template with no required url variables. As I use a framework most of the time I'm not editing the base template and even if I were I'd have to provide url variables to the IDE in order to get the appropriate debug output which -- although I could be wrong -- I'm not aware DW has any facility for this. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195643 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
And I still desperately want a checkbox in the preferences which allows me to _completely_ disable the design view, which MM seems to be _completely_ disinterested in offering me. DW is so closely tied to the design view that I find it frequently open in spite of never opening it myself -- I think just switching between working templates frequently activates split mode. (So I take it back, this is my big complaint -- the previous is my big wish.) I'd add this to the wish list if you haven't already; they just added this very feature to Flex Builder, and since Flex Builder is built on top of Dreamweaver, I bet it would be pretty trivial to add this to DW. I haven't seen the behavior you're talking about personally, and I'm not sure it's so crucial to disable design view as it was in Flex Builder for performance reasons, but if it's something a lot of people want I bet they could add it incredibly easily. Matt ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195644 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
When I introspect CFC's I don't use an IDE to introspect them because my CFC's aren't designed in such a way that introspection via DW, etc. would really be very helpful. Can you elaborate on this? The information that Dreamweaver lets you look at is the same you'd get if you browsed the CFC directly; you can see public methods and declared public properties. Why isn't that helpful? What other kind of information are you talking about? Saying that the Search feature is one of the big selling points for me probably sounds a little silly. Not at all. Dreamweaver's Find Replace functionality is very good. And I still desperately want a checkbox in the preferences which allows me to _completely_ disable the design view, which MM seems to be _completely_ disinterested in offering me. DW is so closely tied to the design view that I find it frequently open in spite of never opening it myself -- I think just switching between working templates frequently activates split mode. (So I take it back, this is my big complaint -- the previous is my big wish.) I never have this problem. If you configure Dreamweaver to use the Coder workspace, you shouldn't have this problem. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195668 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
I find this to be great, if I have a site setup. I have ran into some limitations with it but in very extreme cases such as working with an all static site with thousands upon thousands of html pages. In that case DWMX just flat out missed things. On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:01:06 -0500, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saying that the Search feature is one of the big selling points for me probably sounds a little silly. Not at all. Dreamweaver's Find Replace functionality is very good. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195674 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
At 12:01 PM 2/20/2005, you wrote: Though when I used CFS/HS+ I used the multi-file search feature more often than the standard search feature, even if I only used it against a single template. Iirc there was never a keyboard shortcut for this feature, so I always had to reach out to the mouse to open it, which I discovered bothered me after being initially very impressed with the feature. Instead of Control-R to search you can do Control-Shift-R for the extended search. The fact that DW places both search and search+replace on the same window and allows me to use ctrl+F to execute _any_ kind of search I might need is very convenient to me now. I hate the fact that Dreamweaver does not offer a find previous. I also wish there was a way to default the type of search features, such as search in template vs search in site.. I think it defaults to the last option you used. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com -- When did Reality Become TV ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195683 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
I sometimes really hate that it defaults to the last search type then other times I really like it. Guess it would be nice to set a preference on it, if I'd remember what I had it at ;) On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:54:53 -0500, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:01 PM 2/20/2005, you wrote: I hate the fact that Dreamweaver does not offer a find previous. I also wish there was a way to default the type of search features, such as search in template vs search in site.. I think it defaults to the last option you used. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com -- When did Reality Become TV ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195684 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
i been using flex builder over dreamweaver now that the extensions add to it properly, seems a lot faster than dreamweaver also seems set up more like a coders tool. gunna be a bummer when the trial runs out :( From: Matt Woodward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 10:53 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all And I still desperately want a checkbox in the preferences which allows me to _completely_ disable the design view, which MM seems to be _completely_ disinterested in offering me. DW is so closely tied to the design view that I find it frequently open in spite of never opening it myself -- I think just switching between working templates frequently activates split mode. (So I take it back, this is my big complaint -- the previous is my big wish.) I'd add this to the wish list if you haven't already; they just added this very feature to Flex Builder, and since Flex Builder is built on top of Dreamweaver, I bet it would be pretty trivial to add this to DW. I haven't seen the behavior you're talking about personally, and I'm not sure it's so crucial to disable design view as it was in Flex Builder for performance reasons, but if it's something a lot of people want I bet they could add it incredibly easily. Matt ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195689 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Good article DWMX. Phewww...I'm not so crazy after all
When I introspect CFC's I don't use an IDE to introspect them because my CFC's aren't designed in such a way that introspection via DW, etc. would really be very helpful. Can you elaborate on this? The information that Dreamweaver lets you look at is the same you'd get if you browsed the CFC directly; you can see public methods and declared public properties. Why isn't that helpful? What other kind of information are you talking about? Well at least that's been my impression. I don't use the extends attribute of the cfcomponent tag for the most part -- instead I use a separate function which mimic's inheritance using a dynamic path to another CFC and allows for multiple inheritance in some circumstances. I was of the impression that CFC introspection used the syntax to return data about the CFC rather than actually instantiating the component. If that assumption is incorrect, then yea, DW's CFC introspection could be useful if it actually instantiates the CFC and returns data about methods artificially injected into its this and variables scopes. And I still desperately want a checkbox in the preferences which allows me to _completely_ disable the design view, which MM seems to be _completely_ disinterested in offering me. DW is so closely tied to the design view that I find it frequently open in spite of never opening it myself -- I think just switching between working templates frequently activates split mode. (So I take it back, this is my big complaint -- the previous is my big wish.) I never have this problem. If you configure Dreamweaver to use the Coder workspace, you shouldn't have this problem. I use the Coder workspace... and I still have the problem constantly. Dunno why. ymmv obviously. s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/p49777853/ http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569DE=1 http://www.fusiontap.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195702 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
