RE: UPS Prices
well the connection failure was me being short sighted and not realizing that there was some server setting that has been changed and needed to be changed back to get cfhttp to work, which I finally figured out and got the sysadmin to fix, but now that I'm actually connecting, which is always a good start, I'm getting the message "UPSOnLine5%Missing ActionCode%6837" when I try to run the tag with one of the example usages. where are you downloading it from? I'm obviously not looking at the same version you are. -Original Message- From: Judith Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: UPS Prices Well, I've just downloaded a new copy of the tag, and compared it with the version I've been usingthere are no differences in the tag itself. How are you calling the tag? That may be where the problem is.what is the code you're using when you call it? Trying to help, Judith Dunwiddie, Bruce put into words: >The FileContent is coming back with "Connection Failure" and that's it. When >I go to the url in a browser, I get "UPSOnLine5%Missing ActionCode%6837". In >the code, there's a line that says "IS "UPSOnLine3">". I'm kind of at a loss if it's something wrong on my end, >but it really looks to me like this one is on the wrong version by that >upsonline #, and I tried changing the code to look for upsonline5, and I >still get the same. Could you fill in on maybe some other processes I need >to do to use the script. I don't see any login variables or anything... Judith Taylor Freelance ColdFusion Developer - Athens, OH ICQ: 67460562 | YahooID: lace_n_steel | AIM: BlacksmithLace Friends don't let friends code before coffee. ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: UPS Prices
On 12/10/01, Matt Robertson penned: >Yeah, that experience pretty much mirrors mine, although it never >occurred to me to back-door it like you did. Clever. I'm surprised >an earlier API is still working. Probably a heavy hitter somewhere >told 'em to leave it alone or else. > >What creeps me out is not reliability. Its hanging my >you-know-whats out, asking for them to get chopped off if UPS >decides to revise their API yet again. The first time it happened I >had to run around and redo a bunch of sites for free. Should have >gotten clients to sign off on the limitations/risks of using a >3rd-party add-in. :) Well, what I did with Ben's tag was to build it so it uses the same parameters, then I change them inside the tag. Like GNDRES and GNDCOM aren't supported any more. It's just GND and you have to pass ResidentialInd as 0 or 1 to specify residential or commercial. So I still pass GNDRES or GNDCOM to the tag, then switch it to GND and set ResidentialInd to 0 or 1, accordingly. Same with the rest of the stuff they changed. This way I had only to replace the old tag on all the sites I'd used it with. -- Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.twcreations.com/ ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: UPS Prices
Yeah, that experience pretty much mirrors mine, although it never occurred to me to back-door it like you did. Clever. I'm surprised an earlier API is still working. Probably a heavy hitter somewhere told 'em to leave it alone or else. What creeps me out is not reliability. Its hanging my you-know-whats out, asking for them to get chopped off if UPS decides to revise their API yet again. The first time it happened I had to run around and redo a bunch of sites for free. Should have gotten clients to sign off on the limitations/risks of using a 3rd-party add-in. >From my perspective, At least I *know* that I'm good for a year. Last year's rate >update was a snap. This year's is going to need some new things given recent rate >changes, but it can't be that bad. Hopefully no more than an afternoon's work. --- Matt Robertson[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc., www.mysecretbase.com --- -- Original Message -- from: Bud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:21:15 -0500 On 12/10/01, Matt Robertson penned: >After that experience I decided I can't depend on a 3rd party's good >will to let ecommerce sites keep working. Built a tag that uses >downloaded/imported rates rather than trying to keep up with UPS, their >changing API and usage restrictions (at the time of v1.1 and 2.0 (which >was a whole year-and-a-half ago... Now they're on V5??) pulling rates >from their site became a violation of their site usage rules. Don't >know if they've changed, but from what they told me at the time they >were pretty solid in wanting to migrate everyone to their own licensed >tools. I hacked Ben's UPSPrice.cfm tag to work with version 1.2, which it still works fine with. As far as licensing, they wouldn't issue me a developer's license (not a big enough fish I guess), but it seems that the tag is OK to use as long as the end user registers. Here is my "back and forth" with UPS: Me: Why CAN'T I have a developer's license?? UPS: UPS has limited the number of third party developer requests to ensure that it can appropriately manage and support the third party developer program. UPS has received a very large number of requests from developers seeking to license the OnLine Tools. AS the program moves forward and UPS gains additional experience with the program, UPS may have the ability to license a greater number of third party developers. Me: Thanks Renee'. At least it's an explanation, albeit a pretty poor one. :) So, if I build a shopping cart for someone who would like to use UPS, I can develop a module for them to use as long as they register as an end user, correct? UPS: That is correct. You can offer 'custom' work for your clients as long as they license and register for the UPS OnLine Tools. -- Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.twcreations.com/ ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: UPS Prices
On 12/10/01, Matt Robertson penned: >After that experience I decided I can't depend on a 3rd party's good >will to let ecommerce sites keep working. Built a tag that uses >downloaded/imported rates rather than trying to keep up with UPS, their >changing API and usage restrictions (at the time of v1.1 and 2.0 (which >was a whole year-and-a-half ago... Now they're on V5??) pulling rates >from their site became a violation of their site usage rules. Don't >know if they've changed, but from what they told me at the time they >were pretty solid in wanting to migrate everyone to their own licensed >tools. I hacked Ben's UPSPrice.cfm tag to work with version 1.2, which it still works fine with. As far as licensing, they wouldn't issue me a developer's license (not a big enough fish I guess), but it seems that the tag is OK to use as long as the end user registers. Here is my "back and forth" with UPS: Me: Why CAN'T I have a developer's license?? UPS: UPS has limited the number of third party developer requests to ensure that it can appropriately manage and support the third party developer program. UPS has received a very large number of requests from developers seeking to license the OnLine Tools. AS the program moves forward and UPS gains additional experience with the program, UPS may have the ability to license a greater number of third party developers. Me: Thanks Renee'. At least it's an explanation, albeit a pretty poor one. :) So, if I build a shopping cart for someone who would like to use UPS, I can develop a module for them to use as long as they register as an end user, correct? UPS: That is correct. You can offer 'custom' work for your clients as long as they license and register for the UPS OnLine Tools. -- Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.twcreations.com/ ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: UPS Prices
I'm pretty sure that pulling rate quotes from the UPS site via the CGI gateway is still a violation of their site usage rules. Registering and using the XML tools was for the most part painless and the tools are very cool (address verification, tracking, rates, etc.). They also send email notifications when any changes will take place. If the quote fails (either from a connectivity standpoint or any other error) the order is flagged as "manual" and bypasses the shipping calcs allowing for the checkout transaction to complete. Reliability? Pretty good! We typically process 600+ orders per week, and I honestly cannot remember the last time a rate quote failed. Only one bad not: their tech support/customer service is HORRIBLE. -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: UPS Prices I used to use the Forta tag and loved it. Then UPS started playing hide-the-api and broke it... At the time, at least. After that experience I decided I can't depend on a 3rd party's good will to let ecommerce sites keep working. Built a tag that uses downloaded/imported rates rather than trying to keep up with UPS, their changing API and usage restrictions (at the time of v1.1 and 2.0 (which was a whole year-and-a-half ago... Now they're on V5??) pulling rates from their site became a violation of their site usage rules. Don't know if they've changed, but from what they told me at the time they were pretty solid in wanting to migrate everyone to their own licensed tools. The solution isn't perfect by any stretch. Not *everything* is supported, although what most U.S. shippers seem to need is. Plus the rates need to be updated annually... But at least that means UPS-shipping sites don't break themselves more than once a year. --Matt Robertson-- MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com -Original Message- From: Dunwiddie, Bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: UPS Prices Does anyone have a page working that gets the online ups shipping cost? We looked at this a while back, and Ben Forta's tag UPSPrice.cfm was working then, but now that we're ready to put something in place, I'm getting a "Connection Failure" error and after looking in to it, it looks like the tag is on version 3 of ups's system, but their system is now on version 5. I just went to DevEx and got the latest version of the tag that was modified Oct 15th of this year, and it's still the version 3. Any help with what small changes I might need to make to this tag to get it to work now or any other options that would work would be greatly appreciated and would save me ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: UPS Prices
I used to use the Forta tag and loved it. Then UPS started playing hide-the-api and broke it... At the time, at least. After that experience I decided I can't depend on a 3rd party's good will to let ecommerce sites keep working. Built a tag that uses downloaded/imported rates rather than trying to keep up with UPS, their changing API and usage restrictions (at the time of v1.1 and 2.0 (which was a whole year-and-a-half ago... Now they're on V5??) pulling rates from their site became a violation of their site usage rules. Don't know if they've changed, but from what they told me at the time they were pretty solid in wanting to migrate everyone to their own licensed tools. The solution isn't perfect by any stretch. Not *everything* is supported, although what most U.S. shippers seem to need is. Plus the rates need to be updated annually... But at least that means UPS-shipping sites don't break themselves more than once a year. --Matt Robertson-- MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com -Original Message- From: Dunwiddie, Bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: UPS Prices Does anyone have a page working that gets the online ups shipping cost? We looked at this a while back, and Ben Forta's tag UPSPrice.cfm was working then, but now that we're ready to put something in place, I'm getting a "Connection Failure" error and after looking in to it, it looks like the tag is on version 3 of ups's system, but their system is now on version 5. I just went to DevEx and got the latest version of the tag that was modified Oct 15th of this year, and it's still the version 3. Any help with what small changes I might need to make to this tag to get it to work now or any other options that would work would be greatly appreciated and would save me ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: UPS Prices
Well, I've just downloaded a new copy of the tag, and compared it with the version I've been usingthere are no differences in the tag itself. How are you calling the tag? That may be where the problem is.what is the code you're using when you call it? Trying to help, Judith Dunwiddie, Bruce put into words: >The FileContent is coming back with "Connection Failure" and that's it. When >I go to the url in a browser, I get "UPSOnLine5%Missing ActionCode%6837". In >the code, there's a line that says "IS "UPSOnLine3">". I'm kind of at a loss if it's something wrong on my end, >but it really looks to me like this one is on the wrong version by that >upsonline #, and I tried changing the code to look for upsonline5, and I >still get the same. Could you fill in on maybe some other processes I need >to do to use the script. I don't see any login variables or anything... Judith Taylor Freelance ColdFusion Developer - Athens, OH ICQ: 67460562 | YahooID: lace_n_steel | AIM: BlacksmithLace Friends don't let friends code before coffee. ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: UPS Prices
www.Intershipper.com They have a CF tag written by Desert Raven Dave - Original Message - From: "Dunwiddie, Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:34 AM Subject: UPS Prices Does anyone have a page working that gets the online ups shipping cost? We looked at this a while back, and Ben Forta's tag UPSPrice.cfm was working then, but now that we're ready to put something in place, I'm getting a "Connection Failure" error and after looking in to it, it looks like the tag is on version 3 of ups's system, but their system is now on version 5. I just went to DevEx and got the latest version of the tag that was modified Oct 15th of this year, and it's still the version 3. Any help with what small changes I might need to make to this tag to get it to work now or any other options that would work would be greatly appreciated and would save me ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: UPS Prices
The FileContent is coming back with "Connection Failure" and that's it. When I go to the url in a browser, I get "UPSOnLine5%Missing ActionCode%6837". In the code, there's a line that says "". I'm kind of at a loss if it's something wrong on my end, but it really looks to me like this one is on the wrong version by that upsonline #, and I tried changing the code to look for upsonline5, and I still get the same. Could you fill in on maybe some other processes I need to do to use the script. I don't see any login variables or anything... -Original Message- From: Judith Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: UPS Prices What errors are you getting? The site where I'm using Forta's tag is returning the prices with no problem. Judith Dunwiddie, Bruce put into words: >Does anyone have a page working that gets the online ups shipping cost? We >looked at this a while back, and Ben Forta's tag UPSPrice.cfm was working >then, but now that we're ready to put something in place, I'm getting a >"Connection Failure" error and after looking in to it, it looks like the tag >is on version 3 of ups's system, but their system is now on version 5. I >just went to DevEx and got the latest version of the tag that was modified >Oct 15th of this year, and it's still the version 3. Any help with what >small changes I might need to make to this tag to get it to work now or any >other options that would work would be greatly appreciated and would save me Judith Taylor Freelance ColdFusion Developer - Athens, OH ICQ: 67460562 | YahooID: lace_n_steel | AIM: BlacksmithLace Friends don't let friends code before coffee. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: UPS Prices
What errors are you getting? The site where I'm using Forta's tag is returning the prices with no problem. Judith Dunwiddie, Bruce put into words: >Does anyone have a page working that gets the online ups shipping cost? We >looked at this a while back, and Ben Forta's tag UPSPrice.cfm was working >then, but now that we're ready to put something in place, I'm getting a >"Connection Failure" error and after looking in to it, it looks like the tag >is on version 3 of ups's system, but their system is now on version 5. I >just went to DevEx and got the latest version of the tag that was modified >Oct 15th of this year, and it's still the version 3. Any help with what >small changes I might need to make to this tag to get it to work now or any >other options that would work would be greatly appreciated and would save me Judith Taylor Freelance ColdFusion Developer - Athens, OH ICQ: 67460562 | YahooID: lace_n_steel | AIM: BlacksmithLace Friends don't let friends code before coffee. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
