RE: experthost.com cfmx

2003-02-12 Thread Dave Watts
  The fix in this case is to delete the compiled 
  class, which would be in /WEB-INF/cfclasses.
  Unfortunately, you probably don't have access to 
  that directory.
 
 Since the compiled .class files contain the original 
 template location as a string (at about byte 100) it 
 should be do-able for a webhost to provide an interface 
 from which people can delete these classes. And I presume 
 there must be some hook into the runtimeservice that 
 allows you to flush whatever is cached in memory.

Actually, you shouldn't even need to read the content of the class file. The
class file name itself contains a hash of the original file name. Matt
Liotta posted this to another list recently:

The below Java class should get you pretty close. I know of one special
case where it won't work, but the name will be close enough not to
matter.

import java.io.*;

public class FileUtil {

public static void main(String[] args) {
System.out.println(findClass(args[0]));
}

public static String findClass(String path) {
File file = new File(path);
String name = file.getName();
StringBuffer buf = new StringBuffer(name.length() + 20);

String className = cf + name.substring(0,
name.length()-4) + 2e + name.substring(name.length()-3);

int code = file.hashCode();
if(code  0)
code = ~code;

return className + code + .class;
}

}

I compiled it, and it worked fine. Just feed it the fully-qualified file
path and name as an argument. Thanks go to Matt for that.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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Re: experthost.com cfmx

2003-02-12 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Dave Watts wrote:
 
 CFMX compiles your .cfm files to Java class files. When you change the .cfm
 file, CFMX compares the timestamp of the .cfm to the timestamp of the class,
 and recompiles if the .cfm has a newer timestamp. However, apparently there
 are some situations where that doesn't work correctly.

Like if there is no newer file because it was renamed or deleted.


 The fix in this
 case is to delete the compiled class, which would be in /WEB-INF/cfclasses.
 Unfortunately, you probably don't have access to that directory.

Since the compiled .class files contain the original template location 
as a string (at about byte 100) it should be do-able for a webhost to 
provide an interface from which people can delete these classes. And I 
presume there must be some hook into the runtimeservice that allows you 
to flush whatever is cached in memory.

But all of these are just workarounds, it really is up to MM to fix it:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/?6213=3

Jochem

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RE: experthost.com cfmx

2003-02-12 Thread Tony Weeg
it sounds like we are all barking up the same
tree on the issue, however its not consistent either.
it's a situation whereby sometimes, on some code changes, ill
send the new file up, and I hit shift+Refresh, and I get
a new version of the fileother times, not.  

well, if anyone has any clues..

[EMAIL PROTECTED] :)

please email them.

thanks!

...tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Mobile workforce monitoring, mapping  reporting
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: experthost.com  cfmx


Dave Watts wrote:
 
 CFMX compiles your .cfm files to Java class files. When you change the
.cfm
 file, CFMX compares the timestamp of the .cfm to the timestamp of the
class,
 and recompiles if the .cfm has a newer timestamp. However, apparently
there
 are some situations where that doesn't work correctly.

Like if there is no newer file because it was renamed or deleted.


 The fix in this
 case is to delete the compiled class, which would be in
/WEB-INF/cfclasses.
 Unfortunately, you probably don't have access to that directory.

Since the compiled .class files contain the original template location 
as a string (at about byte 100) it should be do-able for a webhost to 
provide an interface from which people can delete these classes. And I 
presume there must be some hook into the runtimeservice that allows you 
to flush whatever is cached in memory.

But all of these are just workarounds, it really is up to MM to fix it:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/?6213=3

Jochem


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RE: experthost.com cfmx

2003-02-12 Thread Robert Bailey
I have used them, no problems at all

Thanks!
Robert Bailey
Famous for nothing


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: experthost.com  cfmx


is anyone else out there, using experthost.com
to host your sites, on one of their cfmx servers
and noticed that sometimes when you ftp a file over
that when you refresh in your browser, you wont
see the new file, and sometimes, you can delete the file
refresh, and it still shows the old cached version?

i emailed them and they told me that it was a cfmx bug, and
that they werent sure of a fix?

thanks!

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331


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RE: experthost.com cfmx

2003-02-12 Thread Tony Weeg
h. when was the last domain
you put on there? I have no problems,with the domains
that I have on their cf5 servers, its just the new cfmx servers.


...tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Mobile workforce monitoring, mapping  reporting
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: experthost.com  cfmx


I have used them, no problems at all

Thanks!
Robert Bailey
Famous for nothing


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: experthost.com  cfmx


is anyone else out there, using experthost.com
to host your sites, on one of their cfmx servers
and noticed that sometimes when you ftp a file over
that when you refresh in your browser, you wont
see the new file, and sometimes, you can delete the file
refresh, and it still shows the old cached version?

i emailed them and they told me that it was a cfmx bug, and
that they werent sure of a fix?

thanks!

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331



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RE: experthost.com cfmx

2003-02-12 Thread Robert Bailey
Last domain I put on there was about 2 months ago, CFMX. Has not had any
problems at all, except some wacky CFFILE problem which is gone now

Thanks!
Robert Bailey
Famous for nothing


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: experthost.com  cfmx


h. when was the last domain
you put on there? I have no problems,with the domains
that I have on their cf5 servers, its just the new cfmx servers.


...tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Mobile workforce monitoring, mapping  reporting
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337

-Original Message-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: experthost.com  cfmx


I have used them, no problems at all

Thanks!
Robert Bailey
Famous for nothing


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: experthost.com  cfmx


is anyone else out there, using experthost.com
to host your sites, on one of their cfmx servers
and noticed that sometimes when you ftp a file over
that when you refresh in your browser, you wont
see the new file, and sometimes, you can delete the file
refresh, and it still shows the old cached version?

i emailed them and they told me that it was a cfmx bug, and
that they werent sure of a fix?

thanks!

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331




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RE: experthost.com cfmx

2003-02-11 Thread Chris Kief
Sounds like they have Trusted Cache turned on in the administrator. Ask them
about that setting...

chris


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: experthost.com  cfmx

is anyone else out there, using experthost.com
to host your sites, on one of their cfmx servers
and noticed that sometimes when you ftp a file over
that when you refresh in your browser, you wont
see the new file, and sometimes, you can delete the file
refresh, and it still shows the old cached version?

i emailed them and they told me that it was a cfmx bug, and
that they werent sure of a fix?

thanks!

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331 


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RE: experthost.com cfmx

2003-02-11 Thread Tony Weeg
already did, no dice. that was my first question to them.

i know...odd...

-Original Message-
From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: experthost.com  cfmx


Sounds like they have Trusted Cache turned on in the administrator. Ask
them
about that setting...

chris


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: experthost.com  cfmx

is anyone else out there, using experthost.com
to host your sites, on one of their cfmx servers
and noticed that sometimes when you ftp a file over
that when you refresh in your browser, you wont
see the new file, and sometimes, you can delete the file
refresh, and it still shows the old cached version?

i emailed them and they told me that it was a cfmx bug, and
that they werent sure of a fix?

thanks!

tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331 



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Re: experthost.com cfmx

2003-02-11 Thread Dave Lyons
how many days has it been?

Dave

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Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:24 PM
Subject: RE: experthost.com  cfmx


 already did, no dice. that was my first question to them.

 i know...odd...

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:22 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: experthost.com  cfmx


 Sounds like they have Trusted Cache turned on in the administrator. Ask
 them
 about that setting...

 chris


 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:18 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: experthost.com  cfmx

 is anyone else out there, using experthost.com
 to host your sites, on one of their cfmx servers
 and noticed that sometimes when you ftp a file over
 that when you refresh in your browser, you wont
 see the new file, and sometimes, you can delete the file
 refresh, and it still shows the old cached version?

 i emailed them and they told me that it was a cfmx bug, and
 that they werent sure of a fix?

 thanks!

 tony

 tony weeg
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.revolutionwebdesign.com
 rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
 410.334.6331



 
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RE: experthost.com cfmx

2003-02-11 Thread Russ
I've not had that exposure with them.  Actually, to be fair, I've
noticed no issues with them for awhile, but we had more than a few bumps
with them upfront.

Russ
(hosting CFMX sites on a small, no-name server for fair rates)

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:18 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: experthost.com  cfmx
 
 
 is anyone else out there, using experthost.com
 to host your sites, on one of their cfmx servers
 and noticed that sometimes when you ftp a file over
 that when you refresh in your browser, you wont
 see the new file, and sometimes, you can delete the file
 refresh, and it still shows the old cached version?
 
 i emailed them and they told me that it was a cfmx bug, and
 that they werent sure of a fix?
 
 thanks!
 
 tony
 
 tony weeg
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.revolutionwebdesign.com
 rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
 410.334.6331 
 
 
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RE: experthost.com cfmx

2003-02-11 Thread Tony Weeg
stuff im workin on tonight :)

tw

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From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
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how many days has it been?

Dave

- Original Message -
From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:24 PM
Subject: RE: experthost.com  cfmx


 already did, no dice. that was my first question to them.

 i know...odd...

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:22 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: experthost.com  cfmx


 Sounds like they have Trusted Cache turned on in the administrator.
Ask
 them
 about that setting...

 chris


 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:18 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: experthost.com  cfmx

 is anyone else out there, using experthost.com
 to host your sites, on one of their cfmx servers
 and noticed that sometimes when you ftp a file over
 that when you refresh in your browser, you wont
 see the new file, and sometimes, you can delete the file
 refresh, and it still shows the old cached version?

 i emailed them and they told me that it was a cfmx bug, and
 that they werent sure of a fix?

 thanks!

 tony

 tony weeg
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.revolutionwebdesign.com
 rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
 410.334.6331



 

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Re: experthost.com cfmx

2003-02-11 Thread Dave Lyons
i've had issues similar before on asp sites on windows servers and the
server just had to be flushed. Most are set to do it every 24 hours.

its always something stupid like that


Dave

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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:29 PM
Subject: RE: experthost.com  cfmx


 stuff im workin on tonight :)

 tw

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:28 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: experthost.com  cfmx


 how many days has it been?

 Dave

 - Original Message -
 From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:24 PM
 Subject: RE: experthost.com  cfmx


  already did, no dice. that was my first question to them.
 
  i know...odd...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:22 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: experthost.com  cfmx
 
 
  Sounds like they have Trusted Cache turned on in the administrator.
 Ask
  them
  about that setting...
 
  chris
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:18 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: experthost.com  cfmx
 
  is anyone else out there, using experthost.com
  to host your sites, on one of their cfmx servers
  and noticed that sometimes when you ftp a file over
  that when you refresh in your browser, you wont
  see the new file, and sometimes, you can delete the file
  refresh, and it still shows the old cached version?
 
  i emailed them and they told me that it was a cfmx bug, and
  that they werent sure of a fix?
 
  thanks!
 
  tony
 
  tony weeg
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.revolutionwebdesign.com
  rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
  410.334.6331
 
 
 
 

 
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RE: experthost.com cfmx

2003-02-11 Thread Dave Watts
 is anyone else out there, using experthost.com
 to host your sites, on one of their cfmx servers
 and noticed that sometimes when you ftp a file over
 that when you refresh in your browser, you wont
 see the new file, and sometimes, you can delete the file
 refresh, and it still shows the old cached version?
 
 i emailed them and they told me that it was a cfmx bug, 
 and that they werent sure of a fix?

If this is what I think it is, it's a known issue that may occur regardless
of your host.

CFMX compiles your .cfm files to Java class files. When you change the .cfm
file, CFMX compares the timestamp of the .cfm to the timestamp of the class,
and recompiles if the .cfm has a newer timestamp. However, apparently there
are some situations where that doesn't work correctly. The fix in this
case is to delete the compiled class, which would be in /WEB-INF/cfclasses.
Unfortunately, you probably don't have access to that directory.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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