Re: Application Mappings RE: Ram Disk problem under load
Errr, you would think I would know that. ;) How about I do you a favor. Don't tell anyone else. Email me off list and try to make it a succinct and complete as possible. If you can include code in a zip that's even better. I'll try to push this up the change. Also - please try in CF10 too. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Brook Davies wrote: > > Whats the best way to contact Adobe Support? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350083 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Application Mappings RE: Ram Disk problem under load
Whats the best way to contact Adobe Support? -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] Sent: February-23-12 10:51 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Application Mappings RE: Ram Disk problem under load I'd suggest pinging Adobe support. You are right - this is something that was fixed. But it sounds like you have a -very- reproduceable case, which makes it easier for them to fix. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Pete Freitag wrote: > > Do you have code that calls ApplicationStop() on error or something I > wonder if that might cause the application scoped mappings to be > undefined for a split second while the application is reloading? Just a guess. > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350080 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Application Mappings RE: Ram Disk problem under load
Nope, no code that called onApplicationStop() at all... -Original Message- From: Pete Freitag [mailto:p...@foundeo.com] Sent: February-23-12 10:36 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Application Mappings RE: Ram Disk problem under load Do you have code that calls ApplicationStop() on error or something I wonder if that might cause the application scoped mappings to be undefined for a split second while the application is reloading? Just a guess. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Brook Davies wrote: > > So we ran a load test last night with 100 concurrent users. Everything > went fine *except* this ram disk problem and another problem with a > missing template include. Looking at it closer, both errors "Could not > find the included template" used application mappings to do the include. > > These are defined in the application.cfc: > > > > > > > > > > Cf 8.01 had a hotfix that was supposed to fix custom tag path > mappings acting up under load: > http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/529/cpsid_52915.html > > 73761 Fix for the error "Cannot find CFML template for custom tag" thrown > under load when using THIS.customtagpath in application.cfc and > "enable per app settings" is enabled. > > > But I am running CF 9.01 with all the hotfixes. BTW, I dumped the ram > disk after some failed includes and the file *did exist* on the ram disk. > > -- > > I just did another load test this morning, however this time the load > was all done on a single application testing a form submission process > (this is where the include error was generated). No errors this time. > The difference between this test and the last test that generated lots > of errors is that this test did not run concurrent load on the other > side of this application which uses an application.cfc that extends > the main application.cfc via applicationProxy.cfc. It's a child > application that shares the main applications name and scope but also > enables client variables and does some other stuff (pseudo code below) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > So my guess is that because it doesn't include the application > mappings that it is somehow overwriting them when two requests run at > the same time. > Strange I know, but that's the best I can figure. I am gonna run > another load test tomorrow night, and try adding the mappings into the > child application and see if that helps. > > > > Brook > > > -Original Message- > From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] > Sent: February-22-12 12:30 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: RE: Ram Disk problem under load > > > Hi Raymond, > > I don't see your reply actually... oh here it is in my junk > folder...g... > > Tonight when the load test is running, I'll pause midway and swap in a > real file path and see how that runs. > > The only other thing I can think is that there is a name collision and > the file is deleted by another thread who was using the same filename. > But the filename variable IS var scoped (FYI, this IS inside an > application scoped CFC). > > Brook > > > > -Original Message- > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] > Sent: February-22-12 11:38 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load > > > Noticed you didn't reply to my idea... can you also ensure that it > really is a VFS issue by simply switching to a real folder - just for > testing? > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Brook Davies > wrote: > > > > Good idea, I'll check the contents of the ram disk after any failures... > > > > Brook > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Pete Freitag [mailto:p...@foundeo.com] > > Sent: February-22-12 9:58 AM > > To: cf-talk > > Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load > > > > > > Hi Brook, > > > > Certainly you will want to have a try / catch around that, you could > > put the delete of the ram file in a tag to ensure it > > runs, otherwise if an error is thrown in the cfinclude the file > > never gets deleted and stays in ram. > > > > Also to answer your question about the garbage collection, I don't > > think that would be the issue, the garbage collector only removes > > objects that have a reference count of zero, I would assume that > > when you have a file on the ram disk ColdFusion maintains a > > reference to it, when you delete the file CF will delete the > > refere
Re: Application Mappings RE: Ram Disk problem under load
I'd suggest pinging Adobe support. You are right - this is something that was fixed. But it sounds like you have a -very- reproduceable case, which makes it easier for them to fix. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Pete Freitag wrote: > > Do you have code that calls ApplicationStop() on error or something I > wonder if that might cause the application scoped mappings to be undefined > for a split second while the application is reloading? Just a guess. > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350077 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Application Mappings RE: Ram Disk problem under load
Do you have code that calls ApplicationStop() on error or something I wonder if that might cause the application scoped mappings to be undefined for a split second while the application is reloading? Just a guess. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Brook Davies wrote: > > So we ran a load test last night with 100 concurrent users. Everything went > fine *except* this ram disk problem and another problem with a missing > template include. Looking at it closer, both errors "Could not find the > included template" used application mappings to do the include. > > These are defined in the application.cfc: > > > > > > > > > > Cf 8.01 had a hotfix that was supposed to fix custom tag path mappings > acting up under load: > http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/529/cpsid_52915.html > > 73761 Fix for the error "Cannot find CFML template for custom tag" thrown > under load when using THIS.customtagpath in application.cfc and "enable per > app settings" is enabled. > > > But I am running CF 9.01 with all the hotfixes. BTW, I dumped the ram disk > after some failed includes and the file *did exist* on the ram disk. > > -- > > I just did another load test this morning, however this time the load was > all done on a single application testing a form submission process (this is > where the include error was generated). No errors this time. The difference > between this test and the last test that generated lots of errors is that > this test did not run concurrent load on the other side of this application > which uses an application.cfc that extends the main application.cfc via > applicationProxy.cfc. Its a child application that shares the main > applications name and scope but also enables client variables and does some > other stuff (pseudo code below) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > So my guess is that because it doesn't include the application mappings > that > it is somehow overwriting them when two requests run at the same time. > Strange I know, but thats the best I can figure. I am gonna run another > load test tomorrow night, and try adding the mappings into the child > application and see if that helps. > > > > Brook > > > -Original Message- > From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] > Sent: February-22-12 12:30 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: RE: Ram Disk problem under load > > > Hi Raymond, > > I don't see your reply actually... oh here it is in my junk > folder...g... > > Tonight when the load test is running, I'll pause midway and swap in a real > file path and see how that runs. > > The only other thing I can think is that there is a name collision and the > file is deleted by another thread who was using the same filename. But the > filename variable IS var scoped (FYI, this IS inside an application scoped > CFC). > > Brook > > > > -Original Message- > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] > Sent: February-22-12 11:38 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load > > > Noticed you didn't reply to my idea... can you also ensure that it really > is > a VFS issue by simply switching to a real folder - just for testing? > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Brook Davies > wrote: > > > > Good idea, I'll check the contents of the ram disk after any failures... > > > > Brook > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Pete Freitag [mailto:p...@foundeo.com] > > Sent: February-22-12 9:58 AM > > To: cf-talk > > Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load > > > > > > Hi Brook, > > > > Certainly you will want to have a try / catch around that, you could > > put the delete of the ram file in a tag to ensure it runs, > > otherwise if an error is thrown in the cfinclude the file never gets > > deleted and stays in ram. > > > > Also to answer your question about the garbage collection, I don't > > think that would be the issue, the garbage collector only removes > > objects that have a reference count of zero, I would assume that when > > you have a file on the ram disk ColdFusion maintains a reference to > > it, when you delete the file CF will delete the reference and allow the > GC > to cleanup. > > > > I don't think reducing the size of your ram disk will make the problem > > go away. > > > > What you might want to do is run this after you run your load test to > > see whats in there: > > > > >
Application Mappings RE: Ram Disk problem under load
So we ran a load test last night with 100 concurrent users. Everything went fine *except* this ram disk problem and another problem with a missing template include. Looking at it closer, both errors "Could not find the included template" used application mappings to do the include. These are defined in the application.cfc: Cf 8.01 had a hotfix that was supposed to fix custom tag path mappings acting up under load: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/529/cpsid_52915.html 73761 Fix for the error "Cannot find CFML template for custom tag" thrown under load when using THIS.customtagpath in application.cfc and "enable per app settings" is enabled. But I am running CF 9.01 with all the hotfixes. BTW, I dumped the ram disk after some failed includes and the file *did exist* on the ram disk. -- I just did another load test this morning, however this time the load was all done on a single application testing a form submission process (this is where the include error was generated). No errors this time. The difference between this test and the last test that generated lots of errors is that this test did not run concurrent load on the other side of this application which uses an application.cfc that extends the main application.cfc via applicationProxy.cfc. Its a child application that shares the main applications name and scope but also enables client variables and does some other stuff (pseudo code below) --- So my guess is that because it doesn't include the application mappings that it is somehow overwriting them when two requests run at the same time. Strange I know, but thats the best I can figure. I am gonna run another load test tomorrow night, and try adding the mappings into the child application and see if that helps. Brook -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: February-22-12 12:30 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Ram Disk problem under load Hi Raymond, I don't see your reply actually... oh here it is in my junk folder...g... Tonight when the load test is running, I'll pause midway and swap in a real file path and see how that runs. The only other thing I can think is that there is a name collision and the file is deleted by another thread who was using the same filename. But the filename variable IS var scoped (FYI, this IS inside an application scoped CFC). Brook -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] Sent: February-22-12 11:38 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load Noticed you didn't reply to my idea... can you also ensure that it really is a VFS issue by simply switching to a real folder - just for testing? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Brook Davies wrote: > > Good idea, I'll check the contents of the ram disk after any failures... > > Brook > > -Original Message- > From: Pete Freitag [mailto:p...@foundeo.com] > Sent: February-22-12 9:58 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load > > > Hi Brook, > > Certainly you will want to have a try / catch around that, you could > put the delete of the ram file in a tag to ensure it runs, > otherwise if an error is thrown in the cfinclude the file never gets > deleted and stays in ram. > > Also to answer your question about the garbage collection, I don't > think that would be the issue, the garbage collector only removes > objects that have a reference count of zero, I would assume that when > you have a file on the ram disk ColdFusion maintains a reference to > it, when you delete the file CF will delete the reference and allow the GC to cleanup. > > I don't think reducing the size of your ram disk will make the problem > go away. > > What you might want to do is run this after you run your load test to > see whats in there: > > name="dir"> > > -- > Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ - > ColdFusion Consulting & Products http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog > http://hackmycf.com > - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure? > > > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Brook Davies wrote: > >> >> Hi Pete, >> >> I don't think its possible because the ram disk size is set to 500 >> megs, and this was only 10 concurrent users! I have another test >> with >> 100 cuncurrent users running tonight and I guess we'll see what >> happens though I am sure this is going to be an issue. I added a >> try/catch around the write/read and am them attempting to do it >> again, so I guess we'll see what happens. >> >> Maybe I should reduce the size allocated to the ram disk? >>
RE: Ram Disk problem under load
Hi Raymond, I don't see your reply actually... oh here it is in my junk folder...g... Tonight when the load test is running, I'll pause midway and swap in a real file path and see how that runs. The only other thing I can think is that there is a name collision and the file is deleted by another thread who was using the same filename. But the filename variable IS var scoped (FYI, this IS inside an application scoped CFC). Brook -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] Sent: February-22-12 11:38 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load Noticed you didn't reply to my idea... can you also ensure that it really is a VFS issue by simply switching to a real folder - just for testing? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Brook Davies wrote: > > Good idea, I'll check the contents of the ram disk after any failures... > > Brook > > -Original Message- > From: Pete Freitag [mailto:p...@foundeo.com] > Sent: February-22-12 9:58 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load > > > Hi Brook, > > Certainly you will want to have a try / catch around that, you could > put the delete of the ram file in a tag to ensure it runs, > otherwise if an error is thrown in the cfinclude the file never gets > deleted and stays in ram. > > Also to answer your question about the garbage collection, I don't > think that would be the issue, the garbage collector only removes > objects that have a reference count of zero, I would assume that when > you have a file on the ram disk ColdFusion maintains a reference to > it, when you delete the file CF will delete the reference and allow the GC to cleanup. > > I don't think reducing the size of your ram disk will make the problem > go away. > > What you might want to do is run this after you run your load test to > see whats in there: > > name="dir"> > > -- > Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ - > ColdFusion Consulting & Products http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog > http://hackmycf.com > - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure? > > > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Brook Davies wrote: > >> >> Hi Pete, >> >> I don't think its possible because the ram disk size is set to 500 >> megs, and this was only 10 concurrent users! I have another test >> with >> 100 cuncurrent users running tonight and I guess we'll see what >> happens though I am sure this is going to be an issue. I added a >> try/catch around the write/read and am them attempting to do it >> again, so I guess we'll see what happens. >> >> Maybe I should reduce the size allocated to the ram disk? >> >> Brook >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pete Freitag [mailto:p...@foundeo.com] >> Sent: February-22-12 9:35 AM >> To: cf-talk >> Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load >> >> >> Another thing to consider is that the Ram disk has a size limit >> specified in the ColdFusion administrator. Is it possible that the >> write failed (perhaps >> silently) because the ram disk was full. >> >> >> -- >> Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ - >> ColdFusion Consulting & Products http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog >> http://hackmycf.com >> - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure? >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Brook Davies >> wrote: >> >> > >> > Hey everyone, >> > >> > Did some very light pre-load testing yesterday in preparation for a >> > larger test tomorrow. This limited load threw some errors. I'm >> > writing to the in memory file system some CFML code, that I then >> > cfinclude to >> execute it. >> > Its >> > pretty straight forward code, and this was under very little load >> > (10 concurrent users only). >> > >> > Note: I have an application mapping for the ram disk in application.cfc: >> > >> > >> > >> > And then in the problem code: >> > >> > - >> > > > 'wildcardparsing-#createUUID()#.cfm'> >> > >> > > > file="ram://#filename#"/> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > >> > The error I got was: >> > >> > Could not find the included template >> > /ram/wildcardparsing-66031760-EEDC-69FB-8F2EFE
Re: Ram Disk problem under load
Noticed you didn't reply to my idea... can you also ensure that it really is a VFS issue by simply switching to a real folder - just for testing? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Brook Davies wrote: > > Good idea, I'll check the contents of the ram disk after any failures... > > Brook > > -Original Message- > From: Pete Freitag [mailto:p...@foundeo.com] > Sent: February-22-12 9:58 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load > > > Hi Brook, > > Certainly you will want to have a try / catch around that, you could put the > delete of the ram file in a tag to ensure it runs, otherwise if > an error is thrown in the cfinclude the file never gets deleted and stays in > ram. > > Also to answer your question about the garbage collection, I don't think > that would be the issue, the garbage collector only removes objects that > have a reference count of zero, I would assume that when you have a file on > the ram disk ColdFusion maintains a reference to it, when you delete the > file CF will delete the reference and allow the GC to cleanup. > > I don't think reducing the size of your ram disk will make the problem go > away. > > What you might want to do is run this after you run your load test to see > whats in there: > > > > > -- > Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ - ColdFusion > Consulting & Products http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog http://hackmycf.com > - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure? > > > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Brook Davies wrote: > >> >> Hi Pete, >> >> I don't think its possible because the ram disk size is set to 500 >> megs, and this was only 10 concurrent users! I have another test with >> 100 cuncurrent users running tonight and I guess we'll see what >> happens though I am sure this is going to be an issue. I added a >> try/catch around the write/read and am them attempting to do it again, >> so I guess we'll see what happens. >> >> Maybe I should reduce the size allocated to the ram disk? >> >> Brook >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pete Freitag [mailto:p...@foundeo.com] >> Sent: February-22-12 9:35 AM >> To: cf-talk >> Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load >> >> >> Another thing to consider is that the Ram disk has a size limit >> specified in the ColdFusion administrator. Is it possible that the >> write failed (perhaps >> silently) because the ram disk was full. >> >> >> -- >> Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ - >> ColdFusion Consulting & Products http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog >> http://hackmycf.com >> - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure? >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Brook Davies >> wrote: >> >> > >> > Hey everyone, >> > >> > Did some very light pre-load testing yesterday in preparation for a >> > larger test tomorrow. This limited load threw some errors. I'm >> > writing to the in memory file system some CFML code, that I then >> > cfinclude to >> execute it. >> > Its >> > pretty straight forward code, and this was under very little load >> > (10 concurrent users only). >> > >> > Note: I have an application mapping for the ram disk in application.cfc: >> > >> > >> > >> > And then in the problem code: >> > >> > - >> > > > 'wildcardparsing-#createUUID()#.cfm'> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > >> > The error I got was: >> > >> > Could not find the included template >> > /ram/wildcardparsing-66031760-EEDC-69FB-8F2EFEC77564096A.cfm. >> > >> > I got a similar error in another template on a different execution >> > that uses similar code to generate the CFML for a CFDOCUMENT tag and >> > then writes it to ram disk and includes. I have never seen this >> > error in development it only started happening under a wee bit of >> > load. What could be the problem? The In memory file system is set to >> > 500 megs in the cfadmin (which is probably overkill..). Would a >> > garbage collection before the include had been completed cause this to > happen? >> > >> > Brook >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350037 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Ram Disk problem under load
Good idea, I'll check the contents of the ram disk after any failures... Brook -Original Message- From: Pete Freitag [mailto:p...@foundeo.com] Sent: February-22-12 9:58 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load Hi Brook, Certainly you will want to have a try / catch around that, you could put the delete of the ram file in a tag to ensure it runs, otherwise if an error is thrown in the cfinclude the file never gets deleted and stays in ram. Also to answer your question about the garbage collection, I don't think that would be the issue, the garbage collector only removes objects that have a reference count of zero, I would assume that when you have a file on the ram disk ColdFusion maintains a reference to it, when you delete the file CF will delete the reference and allow the GC to cleanup. I don't think reducing the size of your ram disk will make the problem go away. What you might want to do is run this after you run your load test to see whats in there: -- Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ - ColdFusion Consulting & Products http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog http://hackmycf.com - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Brook Davies wrote: > > Hi Pete, > > I don't think its possible because the ram disk size is set to 500 > megs, and this was only 10 concurrent users! I have another test with > 100 cuncurrent users running tonight and I guess we'll see what > happens though I am sure this is going to be an issue. I added a > try/catch around the write/read and am them attempting to do it again, > so I guess we'll see what happens. > > Maybe I should reduce the size allocated to the ram disk? > > Brook > > -Original Message- > From: Pete Freitag [mailto:p...@foundeo.com] > Sent: February-22-12 9:35 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load > > > Another thing to consider is that the Ram disk has a size limit > specified in the ColdFusion administrator. Is it possible that the > write failed (perhaps > silently) because the ram disk was full. > > > -- > Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ - > ColdFusion Consulting & Products http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog > http://hackmycf.com > - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure? > > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Brook Davies > wrote: > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > Did some very light pre-load testing yesterday in preparation for a > > larger test tomorrow. This limited load threw some errors. I'm > > writing to the in memory file system some CFML code, that I then > > cfinclude to > execute it. > > Its > > pretty straight forward code, and this was under very little load > > (10 concurrent users only). > > > > Note: I have an application mapping for the ram disk in application.cfc: > > > > > > > > And then in the problem code: > > > > - > > > 'wildcardparsing-#createUUID()#.cfm'> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > The error I got was: > > > > Could not find the included template > > /ram/wildcardparsing-66031760-EEDC-69FB-8F2EFEC77564096A.cfm. > > > > I got a similar error in another template on a different execution > > that uses similar code to generate the CFML for a CFDOCUMENT tag and > > then writes it to ram disk and includes. I have never seen this > > error in development it only started happening under a wee bit of > > load. What could be the problem? The In memory file system is set to > > 500 megs in the cfadmin (which is probably overkill..). Would a > > garbage collection before the include had been completed cause this to happen? > > > > Brook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350034 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ram Disk problem under load
Hi Brook, Certainly you will want to have a try / catch around that, you could put the delete of the ram file in a tag to ensure it runs, otherwise if an error is thrown in the cfinclude the file never gets deleted and stays in ram. Also to answer your question about the garbage collection, I don't think that would be the issue, the garbage collector only removes objects that have a reference count of zero, I would assume that when you have a file on the ram disk ColdFusion maintains a reference to it, when you delete the file CF will delete the reference and allow the GC to cleanup. I don't think reducing the size of your ram disk will make the problem go away. What you might want to do is run this after you run your load test to see whats in there: -- Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ - ColdFusion Consulting & Products http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog http://hackmycf.com - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Brook Davies wrote: > > Hi Pete, > > I don't think its possible because the ram disk size is set to 500 megs, > and > this was only 10 concurrent users! I have another test with 100 cuncurrent > users running tonight and I guess we'll see what happens though I am sure > this is going to be an issue. I added a try/catch around the write/read and > am them attempting to do it again, so I guess we'll see what happens. > > Maybe I should reduce the size allocated to the ram disk? > > Brook > > -Original Message- > From: Pete Freitag [mailto:p...@foundeo.com] > Sent: February-22-12 9:35 AM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load > > > Another thing to consider is that the Ram disk has a size limit specified > in > the ColdFusion administrator. Is it possible that the write failed (perhaps > silently) because the ram disk was full. > > > -- > Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ - > ColdFusion > Consulting & Products http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog > http://hackmycf.com > - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure? > > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Brook Davies > wrote: > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > Did some very light pre-load testing yesterday in preparation for a > > larger test tomorrow. This limited load threw some errors. I'm writing > > to the in memory file system some CFML code, that I then cfinclude to > execute it. > > Its > > pretty straight forward code, and this was under very little load (10 > > concurrent users only). > > > > Note: I have an application mapping for the ram disk in application.cfc: > > > > > > > > And then in the problem code: > > > > - > > > 'wildcardparsing-#createUUID()#.cfm'> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > The error I got was: > > > > Could not find the included template > > /ram/wildcardparsing-66031760-EEDC-69FB-8F2EFEC77564096A.cfm. > > > > I got a similar error in another template on a different execution > > that uses similar code to generate the CFML for a CFDOCUMENT tag and > > then writes it to ram disk and includes. I have never seen this error > > in development it only started happening under a wee bit of load. What > > could be the problem? The In memory file system is set to 500 megs in > > the cfadmin (which is probably overkill..). Would a garbage collection > > before the include had been completed cause this to happen? > > > > Brook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350033 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Ram Disk problem under load
Hi Pete, I don't think its possible because the ram disk size is set to 500 megs, and this was only 10 concurrent users! I have another test with 100 cuncurrent users running tonight and I guess we'll see what happens though I am sure this is going to be an issue. I added a try/catch around the write/read and am them attempting to do it again, so I guess we'll see what happens. Maybe I should reduce the size allocated to the ram disk? Brook -Original Message- From: Pete Freitag [mailto:p...@foundeo.com] Sent: February-22-12 9:35 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Ram Disk problem under load Another thing to consider is that the Ram disk has a size limit specified in the ColdFusion administrator. Is it possible that the write failed (perhaps silently) because the ram disk was full. -- Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ - ColdFusion Consulting & Products http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog http://hackmycf.com - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Brook Davies wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > Did some very light pre-load testing yesterday in preparation for a > larger test tomorrow. This limited load threw some errors. I'm writing > to the in memory file system some CFML code, that I then cfinclude to execute it. > Its > pretty straight forward code, and this was under very little load (10 > concurrent users only). > > Note: I have an application mapping for the ram disk in application.cfc: > > > > And then in the problem code: > > - > 'wildcardparsing-#createUUID()#.cfm'> > > > > > > > > - > > The error I got was: > > Could not find the included template > /ram/wildcardparsing-66031760-EEDC-69FB-8F2EFEC77564096A.cfm. > > I got a similar error in another template on a different execution > that uses similar code to generate the CFML for a CFDOCUMENT tag and > then writes it to ram disk and includes. I have never seen this error > in development it only started happening under a wee bit of load. What > could be the problem? The In memory file system is set to 500 megs in > the cfadmin (which is probably overkill..). Would a garbage collection > before the include had been completed cause this to happen? > > Brook > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350031 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ram Disk problem under load
Another thing to consider is that the Ram disk has a size limit specified in the ColdFusion administrator. Is it possible that the write failed (perhaps silently) because the ram disk was full. -- Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ - ColdFusion Consulting & Products http://petefreitag.com/ - My Blog http://hackmycf.com - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Brook Davies wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > Did some very light pre-load testing yesterday in preparation for a larger > test tomorrow. This limited load threw some errors. I'm writing to the in > memory file system some CFML code, that I then cfinclude to execute it. > Its > pretty straight forward code, and this was under very little load (10 > concurrent users only). > > Note: I have an application mapping for the ram disk in application.cfc: > > > > And then in the problem code: > > - > > > > > > > > > > - > > The error I got was: > > Could not find the included template > /ram/wildcardparsing-66031760-EEDC-69FB-8F2EFEC77564096A.cfm. > > I got a similar error in another template on a different execution that > uses > similar code to generate the CFML for a CFDOCUMENT tag and then writes it > to > ram disk and includes. I have never seen this error in development it only > started happening under a wee bit of load. What could be the problem? The > In > memory file system is set to 500 megs in the cfadmin (which is probably > overkill..). Would a garbage collection before the include had been > completed cause this to happen? > > Brook > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350030 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ram Disk problem under load
Just to be sure, if you change your mapping to point to a real directory, does the issue go away immediately? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Brook Davies wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > Did some very light pre-load testing yesterday in preparation for a larger > test tomorrow. This limited load threw some errors. I'm writing to the in > memory file system some CFML code, that I then cfinclude to execute it. Its > pretty straight forward code, and this was under very little load (10 > concurrent users only). > > Note: I have an application mapping for the ram disk in application.cfc: > > -- === Raymond Camden, Adobe Developer Evangelist Email : raymondcam...@gmail.com Blog : www.raymondcamden.com Twitter: cfje ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350021 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Ram Disk problem under load
Hey everyone, Did some very light pre-load testing yesterday in preparation for a larger test tomorrow. This limited load threw some errors. I'm writing to the in memory file system some CFML code, that I then cfinclude to execute it. Its pretty straight forward code, and this was under very little load (10 concurrent users only). Note: I have an application mapping for the ram disk in application.cfc: And then in the problem code: - - The error I got was: Could not find the included template /ram/wildcardparsing-66031760-EEDC-69FB-8F2EFEC77564096A.cfm. I got a similar error in another template on a different execution that uses similar code to generate the CFML for a CFDOCUMENT tag and then writes it to ram disk and includes. I have never seen this error in development it only started happening under a wee bit of load. What could be the problem? The In memory file system is set to 500 megs in the cfadmin (which is probably overkill..). Would a garbage collection before the include had been completed cause this to happen? Brook ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350019 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
