Re: Automatically Processing Email in CF

2000-04-13 Thread Justin MacCarthy


Also you chould look at iMS from Coolfusion.com. They have stmp/pop/post
modules you chould use. If you use the smtp module ($500 ish ) you chould
use it to run a script or execute CF code ... check out the site , it will
explain this better :- ), they have a sample in which you can email a stock
symbol and you will get a quote for the symbol emailed back...

~Justin MacCarthy
~Irish ColdFusion Developer

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RE: Automatically Processing Email in CF

2000-04-13 Thread Dave Watts

> I've got an unresolved question regarding e-mail processing.
> Does anyone know how to set up a particular POP3 mailbox so
> that every time it receives a message a particular ColdFusion
> script is executed?
>
> Some individuals suggested (at Allaire's discussion forum) the
> use CFSCHEDULE/CFPOP to schedule CF to check POP3 mailbox
> periodically as the only way. I'm not convinced. Besides that
> unnecessarily uses up system resources especially if that mailbox
> receives only a few messages a day. If I'm on a shared virtual
> hosting plan is there anyway I can specially configure the mail
> server to monitor for incoming email and then run the CF script?

This depends on your mail server. For example, my mail server allows
delivery of messages to a program. This program could be anything,
essentially, so I could write a VB program, or even easier, a WSH script to
accept the message and use HTTP to request a CF script from my web server.

However, this is a lot of trouble to go to if you don't require an immediate
response. If the mailbox only receives a few messages a day, why not just
check it maybe four times a day? Of course, if you do require a more rapid
response, you'd have to increase the frequency of this operation.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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Re: Automatically Processing Email in CF

2000-04-12 Thread Howie Hamlin

microset.com.au is one.  There are others as well but I don't have a list.
You can also ask on the iMS support list which you can join by completing
the form at www.coolfusion.com/ims.htm

Regards,

Howie

- Original Message -
From: Leong Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 12:50 AM
Subject: RE: Automatically Processing Email in CF


> Howie,
>
> This sounds like a great solution. As I don't have my own server I'll have
> to rely on whatever mail server my webhost is using. Do you have a list of
> ColdFusion webhosting companies that are using iMS?
>
> Leong
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 1:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Automatically Processing Email in CF
>
>
> iMS can do this easily.  iMS, for those who have not heard of it, is a
mail
> server that uses ColdFusion templates for processing.  You would not need
a
> separate mail server nor would you need CFPOP to periodically check and
> parse the e-mail (as soon as an e-mail is received at that POP account the
> template will be executed).  You can set up special processor accounts
that
> would then call a ColdFusion template to do the processing.  This would be
a
> totally integrated solution.
>
> If you want to see a demo of how a pop address can execute a ColdFusion
> template then send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  In the body of the
> message include some stock ticker symbols like:
>
> symbols=allr,ibm
>
> When iMS receives the mail it will call a ColdFusion template that will
look
> up the stock information on the inputted symbols and send you the results
in
> an e-mail.
>
> Regards,
>
> Howie Hamlin
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> - Original Message -
> From: Leong Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 9:55 PM
> Subject: Automatically Processing Email in CF
>
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've got an unresolved question regarding e-mail processing. Does anyone
> > know how to set up a particular POP3 mailbox so that every time it
> receives
> > a message a particular ColdFusion script is executed?
> >
> > Some individuals suggested (at Allaire's discussion forum) the use
> > CFSCHEDULE/CFPOP to schedule CF to check POP3 mailbox periodically as
the
> > only way. I'm not convinced. Besides that unnecessarily uses up system
> > resources especially if that mailbox receives only a few messages a day.
> If
> > I'm on a shared virtual hosting plan is there anyway I can specially
> > configure the mail server to monitor for incoming email and then run the
> CF
> > script?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Leong Yew
> >
>
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RE: Automatically Processing Email in CF

2000-04-12 Thread Leong Yew

Howie,

This sounds like a great solution. As I don't have my own server I'll have
to rely on whatever mail server my webhost is using. Do you have a list of
ColdFusion webhosting companies that are using iMS?

Leong

-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Automatically Processing Email in CF


iMS can do this easily.  iMS, for those who have not heard of it, is a mail
server that uses ColdFusion templates for processing.  You would not need a
separate mail server nor would you need CFPOP to periodically check and
parse the e-mail (as soon as an e-mail is received at that POP account the
template will be executed).  You can set up special processor accounts that
would then call a ColdFusion template to do the processing.  This would be a
totally integrated solution.

If you want to see a demo of how a pop address can execute a ColdFusion
template then send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  In the body of the
message include some stock ticker symbols like:

symbols=allr,ibm

When iMS receives the mail it will call a ColdFusion template that will look
up the stock information on the inputted symbols and send you the results in
an e-mail.

Regards,

Howie Hamlin
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- Original Message -
From: Leong Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 9:55 PM
Subject: Automatically Processing Email in CF


>
> Hi,
>
> I've got an unresolved question regarding e-mail processing. Does anyone
> know how to set up a particular POP3 mailbox so that every time it
receives
> a message a particular ColdFusion script is executed?
>
> Some individuals suggested (at Allaire's discussion forum) the use
> CFSCHEDULE/CFPOP to schedule CF to check POP3 mailbox periodically as the
> only way. I'm not convinced. Besides that unnecessarily uses up system
> resources especially if that mailbox receives only a few messages a day.
If
> I'm on a shared virtual hosting plan is there anyway I can specially
> configure the mail server to monitor for incoming email and then run the
CF
> script?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Leong Yew
>
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Re: Automatically Processing Email in CF

2000-04-12 Thread Howie Hamlin

You have touched on the biggest problem that we have when marketing iMS -
getting people to realize what it really is and what they can do with it.
The best analogy that we've come up with is that it's a mail server
equivalent to a web server that uses ColdFusion for processing dynamic
content.

Thanks for the comments - we're looking at improving our web site and
marketing materials and this helps.

Regards,

Howie

- Original Message -
From: John Quarto-vonTivadar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: Automatically Processing Email in CF


> Howie,
>
> as you know I'm on the iMS mailing list and have commented that it remains
> "fuzzy" in my head what to do with it. I'd like to say that for the first
> time in almost a year, you've said below a crystalized 2-sentence summary
of
> a great reason to now look at the iMS product. (to other readers, I'm not
> associated with the product or the company! {grin})
>
>
> > iMS can do this easily.  iMS, for those who have not heard of it, is a
> mail
> > server that uses ColdFusion templates for processing.  You would not
need
> a
> > separate mail server nor would you need CFPOP to periodically check and
> > parse the e-mail (as soon as an e-mail is received at that POP account
the
> > template will be executed).
>
>
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Re: Automatically Processing Email in CF

2000-04-12 Thread John Quarto-vonTivadar

Howie,

as you know I'm on the iMS mailing list and have commented that it remains
"fuzzy" in my head what to do with it. I'd like to say that for the first
time in almost a year, you've said below a crystalized 2-sentence summary of
a great reason to now look at the iMS product. (to other readers, I'm not
associated with the product or the company! {grin})


> iMS can do this easily.  iMS, for those who have not heard of it, is a
mail
> server that uses ColdFusion templates for processing.  You would not need
a
> separate mail server nor would you need CFPOP to periodically check and
> parse the e-mail (as soon as an e-mail is received at that POP account the
> template will be executed).


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Re: Automatically Processing Email in CF

2000-04-12 Thread Howie Hamlin

iMS can do this easily.  iMS, for those who have not heard of it, is a mail
server that uses ColdFusion templates for processing.  You would not need a
separate mail server nor would you need CFPOP to periodically check and
parse the e-mail (as soon as an e-mail is received at that POP account the
template will be executed).  You can set up special processor accounts that
would then call a ColdFusion template to do the processing.  This would be a
totally integrated solution.

If you want to see a demo of how a pop address can execute a ColdFusion
template then send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  In the body of the
message include some stock ticker symbols like:

symbols=allr,ibm

When iMS receives the mail it will call a ColdFusion template that will look
up the stock information on the inputted symbols and send you the results in
an e-mail.

Regards,

Howie Hamlin
--
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===
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*** http://www.sys-con.com/ColdFusion/readerschoice2000/ ***
===
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- Original Message -
From: Leong Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 9:55 PM
Subject: Automatically Processing Email in CF


>
> Hi,
>
> I've got an unresolved question regarding e-mail processing. Does anyone
> know how to set up a particular POP3 mailbox so that every time it
receives
> a message a particular ColdFusion script is executed?
>
> Some individuals suggested (at Allaire's discussion forum) the use
> CFSCHEDULE/CFPOP to schedule CF to check POP3 mailbox periodically as the
> only way. I'm not convinced. Besides that unnecessarily uses up system
> resources especially if that mailbox receives only a few messages a day.
If
> I'm on a shared virtual hosting plan is there anyway I can specially
> configure the mail server to monitor for incoming email and then run the
CF
> script?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Leong Yew
>
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RE: Automatically Processing Email in CF

2000-04-12 Thread Bob Hendren

This is a good solution, but to me there are a couple of issues:

Does this have to be a real-time execution or can it be near-real-time?  If
it has to be real-time, then Ron's suggestion will have to be used.  You
just have to hope that the mail system you're using supports it.

That leads to the second issue - the mail system supporting it.  It has to
be one capable of the command execution and the method described below can
get convoluted.  The CFSCHEDULE method will be portable to any POP server,
again assuming that it doesn't have to be real-time (unless you set the
schedule to check every minute!).

So, as usual, more than one way to skin an email message!  Just pick what
suits.

-
Bob Hendren
BrainKeepers
E-Commerce - Internetworking - Information Systems
404-375-2258
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 10:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Automatically Processing Email in CF


> I've got an unresolved question regarding e-mail processing.
> Does anyone
> know how to set up a particular POP3 mailbox so that every
> time it receives
> a message a particular ColdFusion script is executed?
>
> Some individuals suggested (at Allaire's discussion forum) the use
> CFSCHEDULE/CFPOP to schedule CF to check POP3 mailbox
> periodically as the
> only way. I'm not convinced. Besides that unnecessarily uses up system
> resources especially if that mailbox receives only a few
> messages a day. If
> I'm on a shared virtual hosting plan is there anyway I can specially
> configure the mail server to monitor for incoming email and
> then run the CF
> script?

It depends on your mailserver, but most (SendMail, Imail for sure) have
what's called "program aliases", which are addresses that trigger a
command-line executable when a message is received to them. The quick
and dirty way to trigger a ColdFusion template is to hit a shortcut file
to IE with a ColdFusion URL. When a message hits that program alias,
you'll see a little IE window pop up, and your ColdFusion script will be
run. (As a side note, these program aliases write the entire message
file to disk, and pass that filename as the first parameter to whatever
application is called.)

The better way is to script something with Perl or write a little
executable with Delphi that hits the ColdFusion template, so you're not
launching IE every time it gets hit. But if the volume of hits will be
relatively low (say, under 4 or 5 per minute), then the IE method works
fine.

hth,

ron allen hornbaker   õ¿õ¬
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]~
humankind systems, inc.
http://humankindsystems.com/LoftCam




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RE: Automatically Processing Email in CF

2000-04-12 Thread Bob Hendren

My opinion is that the CFSCHEDULE method is going to be the best.  Not many
POP servers are going to have the ability to perform a command when a
message is received, which is what you are saying you'd like to do.  I had
great luck with creating a script that ran every 15 minutes and checked
mailboxes for content and then acted on them.  It never seemed to tax the
server and the volume ranged from 10-15 per day up to 200-250 per day.  My
one caution is to make sure you consider ALL of the possible results in
contents of the message, i.e., looking for the subject, the body, certain To
or From, etc.

-
Bob Hendren
BrainKeepers
E-Commerce - Internetworking - Information Systems
404-375-2258
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Leong Yew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 9:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Automatically Processing Email in CF



Hi,

I've got an unresolved question regarding e-mail processing. Does anyone
know how to set up a particular POP3 mailbox so that every time it receives
a message a particular ColdFusion script is executed?

Some individuals suggested (at Allaire's discussion forum) the use
CFSCHEDULE/CFPOP to schedule CF to check POP3 mailbox periodically as the
only way. I'm not convinced. Besides that unnecessarily uses up system
resources especially if that mailbox receives only a few messages a day. If
I'm on a shared virtual hosting plan is there anyway I can specially
configure the mail server to monitor for incoming email and then run the CF
script?

Thanks in advance.

Leong Yew


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RE: Automatically Processing Email in CF

2000-04-12 Thread ron

> I've got an unresolved question regarding e-mail processing.
> Does anyone
> know how to set up a particular POP3 mailbox so that every
> time it receives
> a message a particular ColdFusion script is executed?
>
> Some individuals suggested (at Allaire's discussion forum) the use
> CFSCHEDULE/CFPOP to schedule CF to check POP3 mailbox
> periodically as the
> only way. I'm not convinced. Besides that unnecessarily uses up system
> resources especially if that mailbox receives only a few
> messages a day. If
> I'm on a shared virtual hosting plan is there anyway I can specially
> configure the mail server to monitor for incoming email and
> then run the CF
> script?

It depends on your mailserver, but most (SendMail, Imail for sure) have
what's called "program aliases", which are addresses that trigger a
command-line executable when a message is received to them. The quick
and dirty way to trigger a ColdFusion template is to hit a shortcut file
to IE with a ColdFusion URL. When a message hits that program alias,
you'll see a little IE window pop up, and your ColdFusion script will be
run. (As a side note, these program aliases write the entire message
file to disk, and pass that filename as the first parameter to whatever
application is called.)

The better way is to script something with Perl or write a little
executable with Delphi that hits the ColdFusion template, so you're not
launching IE every time it gets hit. But if the volume of hits will be
relatively low (say, under 4 or 5 per minute), then the IE method works
fine.

hth,

ron allen hornbaker   õ¿õ¬
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]~
humankind systems, inc.
http://humankindsystems.com/LoftCam



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