Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
So are you saying that mail sent from your gmail account is ending up in other peoples sent items? Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 11:51, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their hosting, and using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent. There appears to be an issue on their servers at the moment, where mail being sent just stops, well for me at least. Also it is possible that some people are seeing your mail without you knowing about it. For example, I have 3 other customers of Hostek who have sent email from their hosted website on hostek, sitting in my sent folders. I wont go into the implications this has from a security point of view, with details sitting in my gmail account about someone else's intended email. But it is a known bug in ColdFusion that seems to not be that well known, at least nothing can be found via a google search any way. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356509 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
Sort off, just have no proof that is what is happening to me. What I do know, is that I have 5 emails that is clearly sent from another web application on the same server, sitting in my sent folder. I have been having issues with Hostek the last four weeks where my mail just stops being sent, they are at a loss to explain this, but there are errors to do with authentication in the logs. At least this is what I am being told and shown. Some months ago, I had this issue and emailed the person that I was getting these emails from and he was dumbfounded as well, and was not aware that this was happening. What I can tell you is that there is a setting in the CFadmin to keep the mail connection open. However it appears that if this setting is switched on, and two people with seconds of each other send an email to the same server, ColdFusion will hold the connection open and use the credentials of the previous person. So for arguments sake if I send an email via my website, and another customer does the same from their website, then the mail is sent using the credentials of the first connection to that mail server. But as usual, as no other customer on Hostek has complained about this, I am reaching out to those who may be hosted there and use gmail for their mail. To hear if they are actually having the same issues as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: So are you saying that mail sent from your gmail account is ending up in other peoples sent items? Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 11:51, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their hosting, and using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent. There appears to be an issue on their servers at the moment, where mail being sent just stops, well for me at least. Also it is possible that some people are seeing your mail without you knowing about it. For example, I have 3 other customers of Hostek who have sent email from their hosted website on hostek, sitting in my sent folders. I wont go into the implications this has from a security point of view, with details sitting in my gmail account about someone else's intended email. But it is a known bug in ColdFusion that seems to not be that well known, at least nothing can be found via a google search any way. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356510 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
And yes Adobe have known about this bug for over 8+ months. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356511 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
Are both of the sites in question developed by you or completely unrelated? If they are unrelated and have no access to the other one then this would clearly point to a problem with cf and not hosteks fault. In which case you should yry to reproduce locally with the same version of cf. If they are related to you then this is more likely you are using the same smtp settings somewhere. There is one way to completely bypass cfmail for sending email, and also get much better tracking, reporting and reliability at the same time. Take a look at sendgrid.net and sending via their api. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 13:16, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sort off, just have no proof that is what is happening to me. What I do know, is that I have 5 emails that is clearly sent from another web application on the same server, sitting in my sent folder. I have been having issues with Hostek the last four weeks where my mail just stops being sent, they are at a loss to explain this, but there are errors to do with authentication in the logs. At least this is what I am being told and shown. Some months ago, I had this issue and emailed the person that I was getting these emails from and he was dumbfounded as well, and was not aware that this was happening. What I can tell you is that there is a setting in the CFadmin to keep the mail connection open. However it appears that if this setting is switched on, and two people with seconds of each other send an email to the same server, ColdFusion will hold the connection open and use the credentials of the previous person. So for arguments sake if I send an email via my website, and another customer does the same from their website, then the mail is sent using the credentials of the first connection to that mail server. But as usual, as no other customer on Hostek has complained about this, I am reaching out to those who may be hosted there and use gmail for their mail. To hear if they are actually having the same issues as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: So are you saying that mail sent from your gmail account is ending up in other peoples sent items? Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 11:51, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their hosting, and using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent. There appears to be an issue on their servers at the moment, where mail being sent just stops, well for me at least. Also it is possible that some people are seeing your mail without you knowing about it. For example, I have 3 other customers of Hostek who have sent email from their hosted website on hostek, sitting in my sent folders. I wont go into the implications this has from a security point of view, with details sitting in my gmail account about someone else's intended email. But it is a known bug in ColdFusion that seems to not be that well known, at least nothing can be found via a google search any way. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356512 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
I can't reproduce locally, as this is an Enterprise only feature in the admin. I know this is not hosteks fault, I just need it sorted. Hostek have already stated the below response. The change suggested below, actually does fix this at least it has been working fine for over 8 months, till recently when the mail just keeps stopping every two days. And then I started seeing other web applications emails in my sent folder. Response from Hostek. *We have identified the cause of the issue. The setting 'Maintain connection to mail server' in the 'Mail' section of the CFAdmin is what is causing this. If multiple sites on the server are using the same SMTP server, such as 'smtp.gmail.com', this setting causes ColdFusion to re-use that connection until it completes sending emails to that server that are currently in the queue. So, if both sites send an e-mail with the same 10-15 second period, it re-used the first site's authentication credentials since it did not re-establish the connection. This is not an issue for sites using the default cfmail settings since the local smtp service does not use username/password credentials, and it improves performance for mail sent locally when there is a lot of mail being sent. However, for now, I have disabled the 'Maintain connection to mail server' option to prevent the issue when using external mail servers. We will submit a bug report to Adobe suggesting that they treat CFMail tags with different authentication credentials as if they were sending to different servers (I.E. only use the same connection if the same username/password are specified). * Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Are both of the sites in question developed by you or completely unrelated? If they are unrelated and have no access to the other one then this would clearly point to a problem with cf and not hosteks fault. In which case you should yry to reproduce locally with the same version of cf. If they are related to you then this is more likely you are using the same smtp settings somewhere. There is one way to completely bypass cfmail for sending email, and also get much better tracking, reporting and reliability at the same time. Take a look at sendgrid.net and sending via their api. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 13:16, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sort off, just have no proof that is what is happening to me. What I do know, is that I have 5 emails that is clearly sent from another web application on the same server, sitting in my sent folder. I have been having issues with Hostek the last four weeks where my mail just stops being sent, they are at a loss to explain this, but there are errors to do with authentication in the logs. At least this is what I am being told and shown. Some months ago, I had this issue and emailed the person that I was getting these emails from and he was dumbfounded as well, and was not aware that this was happening. What I can tell you is that there is a setting in the CFadmin to keep the mail connection open. However it appears that if this setting is switched on, and two people with seconds of each other send an email to the same server, ColdFusion will hold the connection open and use the credentials of the previous person. So for arguments sake if I send an email via my website, and another customer does the same from their website, then the mail is sent using the credentials of the first connection to that mail server. But as usual, as no other customer on Hostek has complained about this, I am reaching out to those who may be hosted there and use gmail for their mail. To hear if they are actually having the same issues as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: So are you saying that mail sent from your gmail account is ending up in other peoples sent items? Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 11:51, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their hosting, and using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent. There appears to be an issue on their servers at the moment, where mail being sent just stops, well for me at least. Also it is possible that some people are seeing your mail without you knowing about it. For example, I have 3 other customers of Hostek who have sent email from their hosted website on hostek, sitting in my sent folders. I wont go into the
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
The developer edition of cf has all the enterprise features. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 13:32, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I can't reproduce locally, as this is an Enterprise only feature in the admin. I know this is not hosteks fault, I just need it sorted. Hostek have already stated the below response. The change suggested below, actually does fix this at least it has been working fine for over 8 months, till recently when the mail just keeps stopping every two days. And then I started seeing other web applications emails in my sent folder. Response from Hostek. *We have identified the cause of the issue. The setting 'Maintain connection to mail server' in the 'Mail' section of the CFAdmin is what is causing this. If multiple sites on the server are using the same SMTP server, such as 'smtp.gmail.com', this setting causes ColdFusion to re-use that connection until it completes sending emails to that server that are currently in the queue. So, if both sites send an e-mail with the same 10-15 second period, it re-used the first site's authentication credentials since it did not re-establish the connection. This is not an issue for sites using the default cfmail settings since the local smtp service does not use username/password credentials, and it improves performance for mail sent locally when there is a lot of mail being sent. However, for now, I have disabled the 'Maintain connection to mail server' option to prevent the issue when using external mail servers. We will submit a bug report to Adobe suggesting that they treat CFMail tags with different authentication credentials as if they were sending to different servers (I.E. only use the same connection if the same username/password are specified). * Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Are both of the sites in question developed by you or completely unrelated? If they are unrelated and have no access to the other one then this would clearly point to a problem with cf and not hosteks fault. In which case you should yry to reproduce locally with the same version of cf. If they are related to you then this is more likely you are using the same smtp settings somewhere. There is one way to completely bypass cfmail for sending email, and also get much better tracking, reporting and reliability at the same time. Take a look at sendgrid.net and sending via their api. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 13:16, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sort off, just have no proof that is what is happening to me. What I do know, is that I have 5 emails that is clearly sent from another web application on the same server, sitting in my sent folder. I have been having issues with Hostek the last four weeks where my mail just stops being sent, they are at a loss to explain this, but there are errors to do with authentication in the logs. At least this is what I am being told and shown. Some months ago, I had this issue and emailed the person that I was getting these emails from and he was dumbfounded as well, and was not aware that this was happening. What I can tell you is that there is a setting in the CFadmin to keep the mail connection open. However it appears that if this setting is switched on, and two people with seconds of each other send an email to the same server, ColdFusion will hold the connection open and use the credentials of the previous person. So for arguments sake if I send an email via my website, and another customer does the same from their website, then the mail is sent using the credentials of the first connection to that mail server. But as usual, as no other customer on Hostek has complained about this, I am reaching out to those who may be hosted there and use gmail for their mail. To hear if they are actually having the same issues as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: So are you saying that mail sent from your gmail account is ending up in other peoples sent items? Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 11:51, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their hosting, and using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent. There appears to be an issue on their servers at the
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
Btw what verson of cf is this? Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 13:32, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I can't reproduce locally, as this is an Enterprise only feature in the admin. I know this is not hosteks fault, I just need it sorted. Hostek have already stated the below response. The change suggested below, actually does fix this at least it has been working fine for over 8 months, till recently when the mail just keeps stopping every two days. And then I started seeing other web applications emails in my sent folder. Response from Hostek. *We have identified the cause of the issue. The setting 'Maintain connection to mail server' in the 'Mail' section of the CFAdmin is what is causing this. If multiple sites on the server are using the same SMTP server, such as 'smtp.gmail.com', this setting causes ColdFusion to re-use that connection until it completes sending emails to that server that are currently in the queue. So, if both sites send an e-mail with the same 10-15 second period, it re-used the first site's authentication credentials since it did not re-establish the connection. This is not an issue for sites using the default cfmail settings since the local smtp service does not use username/password credentials, and it improves performance for mail sent locally when there is a lot of mail being sent. However, for now, I have disabled the 'Maintain connection to mail server' option to prevent the issue when using external mail servers. We will submit a bug report to Adobe suggesting that they treat CFMail tags with different authentication credentials as if they were sending to different servers (I.E. only use the same connection if the same username/password are specified). * Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Are both of the sites in question developed by you or completely unrelated? If they are unrelated and have no access to the other one then this would clearly point to a problem with cf and not hosteks fault. In which case you should yry to reproduce locally with the same version of cf. If they are related to you then this is more likely you are using the same smtp settings somewhere. There is one way to completely bypass cfmail for sending email, and also get much better tracking, reporting and reliability at the same time. Take a look at sendgrid.net and sending via their api. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 13:16, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sort off, just have no proof that is what is happening to me. What I do know, is that I have 5 emails that is clearly sent from another web application on the same server, sitting in my sent folder. I have been having issues with Hostek the last four weeks where my mail just stops being sent, they are at a loss to explain this, but there are errors to do with authentication in the logs. At least this is what I am being told and shown. Some months ago, I had this issue and emailed the person that I was getting these emails from and he was dumbfounded as well, and was not aware that this was happening. What I can tell you is that there is a setting in the CFadmin to keep the mail connection open. However it appears that if this setting is switched on, and two people with seconds of each other send an email to the same server, ColdFusion will hold the connection open and use the credentials of the previous person. So for arguments sake if I send an email via my website, and another customer does the same from their website, then the mail is sent using the credentials of the first connection to that mail server. But as usual, as no other customer on Hostek has complained about this, I am reaching out to those who may be hosted there and use gmail for their mail. To hear if they are actually having the same issues as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: So are you saying that mail sent from your gmail account is ending up in other peoples sent items? Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 11:51, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their hosting, and using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent. There appears to be an issue on their servers at the moment, where mail being
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
I know the developer version has all the same features, just I have no idea where that setting actually exists on my dev version. I started out on ColdFusion version 9, when the problem kept happening they moved me to ColdFusion 10 and it still happened there as well. When they made the change they stated, it worked fine for months. Till recently... Where I am getting the problem again. But other Hostek customers, must be noticing this as well surely. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Btw what verson of cf is this? Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 13:32, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I can't reproduce locally, as this is an Enterprise only feature in the admin. I know this is not hosteks fault, I just need it sorted. Hostek have already stated the below response. The change suggested below, actually does fix this at least it has been working fine for over 8 months, till recently when the mail just keeps stopping every two days. And then I started seeing other web applications emails in my sent folder. Response from Hostek. *We have identified the cause of the issue. The setting 'Maintain connection to mail server' in the 'Mail' section of the CFAdmin is what is causing this. If multiple sites on the server are using the same SMTP server, such as 'smtp.gmail.com', this setting causes ColdFusion to re-use that connection until it completes sending emails to that server that are currently in the queue. So, if both sites send an e-mail with the same 10-15 second period, it re-used the first site's authentication credentials since it did not re-establish the connection. This is not an issue for sites using the default cfmail settings since the local smtp service does not use username/password credentials, and it improves performance for mail sent locally when there is a lot of mail being sent. However, for now, I have disabled the 'Maintain connection to mail server' option to prevent the issue when using external mail servers. We will submit a bug report to Adobe suggesting that they treat CFMail tags with different authentication credentials as if they were sending to different servers (I.E. only use the same connection if the same username/password are specified). * Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Are both of the sites in question developed by you or completely unrelated? If they are unrelated and have no access to the other one then this would clearly point to a problem with cf and not hosteks fault. In which case you should yry to reproduce locally with the same version of cf. If they are related to you then this is more likely you are using the same smtp settings somewhere. There is one way to completely bypass cfmail for sending email, and also get much better tracking, reporting and reliability at the same time. Take a look at sendgrid.net and sending via their api. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 13:16, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sort off, just have no proof that is what is happening to me. What I do know, is that I have 5 emails that is clearly sent from another web application on the same server, sitting in my sent folder. I have been having issues with Hostek the last four weeks where my mail just stops being sent, they are at a loss to explain this, but there are errors to do with authentication in the logs. At least this is what I am being told and shown. Some months ago, I had this issue and emailed the person that I was getting these emails from and he was dumbfounded as well, and was not aware that this was happening. What I can tell you is that there is a setting in the CFadmin to keep the mail connection open. However it appears that if this setting is switched on, and two people with seconds of each other send an email to the same server, ColdFusion will hold the connection open and use the credentials of the previous person. So for arguments sake if I send an email via my website, and another customer does the same from their website, then the mail is sent using the credentials of the first connection to that mail server. But as usual, as no other customer on Hostek has complained about this, I am reaching out to those who may be hosted there and use gmail for their mail. To hear if they are actually having the same issues as
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
Andrew, Would setting the spoolenable attribute of cfmail to no possibly help the issue? I have no idea if CF utilizes existing connections when not using it's spool, but it is worth a try. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: I can't reproduce locally, as this is an Enterprise only feature in the admin. I know this is not hosteks fault, I just need it sorted. Hostek have already stated the below response. The change suggested below, actually does fix this at least it has been working fine for over 8 months, till recently when the mail just keeps stopping every two days. And then I started seeing other web applications emails in my sent folder. Response from Hostek. *We have identified the cause of the issue. The setting 'Maintain connection to mail server' in the 'Mail' section of the CFAdmin is what is causing this. If multiple sites on the server are using the same SMTP server, such as 'smtp.gmail.com', this setting causes ColdFusion to re-use that connection until it completes sending emails to that server that are currently in the queue. So, if both sites send an e-mail with the same 10-15 second period, it re-used the first site's authentication credentials since it did not re-establish the connection. This is not an issue for sites using the default cfmail settings since the local smtp service does not use username/password credentials, and it improves performance for mail sent locally when there is a lot of mail being sent. However, for now, I have disabled the 'Maintain connection to mail server' option to prevent the issue when using external mail servers. We will submit a bug report to Adobe suggesting that they treat CFMail tags with different authentication credentials as if they were sending to different servers (I.E. only use the same connection if the same username/password are specified). * Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Are both of the sites in question developed by you or completely unrelated? If they are unrelated and have no access to the other one then this would clearly point to a problem with cf and not hosteks fault. In which case you should yry to reproduce locally with the same version of cf. If they are related to you then this is more likely you are using the same smtp settings somewhere. There is one way to completely bypass cfmail for sending email, and also get much better tracking, reporting and reliability at the same time. Take a look at sendgrid.net and sending via their api. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 13:16, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sort off, just have no proof that is what is happening to me. What I do know, is that I have 5 emails that is clearly sent from another web application on the same server, sitting in my sent folder. I have been having issues with Hostek the last four weeks where my mail just stops being sent, they are at a loss to explain this, but there are errors to do with authentication in the logs. At least this is what I am being told and shown. Some months ago, I had this issue and emailed the person that I was getting these emails from and he was dumbfounded as well, and was not aware that this was happening. What I can tell you is that there is a setting in the CFadmin to keep the mail connection open. However it appears that if this setting is switched on, and two people with seconds of each other send an email to the same server, ColdFusion will hold the connection open and use the credentials of the previous person. So for arguments sake if I send an email via my website, and another customer does the same from their website, then the mail is sent using the credentials of the first connection to that mail server. But as usual, as no other customer on Hostek has complained about this, I am reaching out to those who may be hosted there and use gmail for their mail. To hear if they are actually having the same issues as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: So are you saying that mail sent from your gmail account is ending up in other peoples sent items? Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 11:51, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their hosting, and using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent.
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
Dean, sorry I have no access to a shared hosting providers cfadmin. So I am at their mercy to make changes to fix the issue. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Dean Lawrence dean...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, Would setting the spoolenable attribute of cfmail to no possibly help the issue? I have no idea if CF utilizes existing connections when not using it's spool, but it is worth a try. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I can't reproduce locally, as this is an Enterprise only feature in the admin. I know this is not hosteks fault, I just need it sorted. Hostek have already stated the below response. The change suggested below, actually does fix this at least it has been working fine for over 8 months, till recently when the mail just keeps stopping every two days. And then I started seeing other web applications emails in my sent folder. Response from Hostek. *We have identified the cause of the issue. The setting 'Maintain connection to mail server' in the 'Mail' section of the CFAdmin is what is causing this. If multiple sites on the server are using the same SMTP server, such as 'smtp.gmail.com', this setting causes ColdFusion to re-use that connection until it completes sending emails to that server that are currently in the queue. So, if both sites send an e-mail with the same 10-15 second period, it re-used the first site's authentication credentials since it did not re-establish the connection. This is not an issue for sites using the default cfmail settings since the local smtp service does not use username/password credentials, and it improves performance for mail sent locally when there is a lot of mail being sent. However, for now, I have disabled the 'Maintain connection to mail server' option to prevent the issue when using external mail servers. We will submit a bug report to Adobe suggesting that they treat CFMail tags with different authentication credentials as if they were sending to different servers (I.E. only use the same connection if the same username/password are specified). * Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Are both of the sites in question developed by you or completely unrelated? If they are unrelated and have no access to the other one then this would clearly point to a problem with cf and not hosteks fault. In which case you should yry to reproduce locally with the same version of cf. If they are related to you then this is more likely you are using the same smtp settings somewhere. There is one way to completely bypass cfmail for sending email, and also get much better tracking, reporting and reliability at the same time. Take a look at sendgrid.net and sending via their api. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 13:16, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sort off, just have no proof that is what is happening to me. What I do know, is that I have 5 emails that is clearly sent from another web application on the same server, sitting in my sent folder. I have been having issues with Hostek the last four weeks where my mail just stops being sent, they are at a loss to explain this, but there are errors to do with authentication in the logs. At least this is what I am being told and shown. Some months ago, I had this issue and emailed the person that I was getting these emails from and he was dumbfounded as well, and was not aware that this was happening. What I can tell you is that there is a setting in the CFadmin to keep the mail connection open. However it appears that if this setting is switched on, and two people with seconds of each other send an email to the same server, ColdFusion will hold the connection open and use the credentials of the previous person. So for arguments sake if I send an email via my website, and another customer does the same from their website, then the mail is sent using the credentials of the first connection to that mail server. But as usual, as no other customer on Hostek has complained about this, I am reaching out to those who may be hosted there and use gmail for their mail. To hear if they are actually having the same issues as well. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
Andrew the settings referred to are under the smtp settings in your cfadmin. You do not need access to the hosts cfadmin to use spoolenable you pass it as an attribute in your cfmail tag. You can view all the cfmail attributes at the online docs. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 14:19, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Dean, sorry I have no access to a shared hosting providers cfadmin. So I am at their mercy to make changes to fix the issue. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Dean Lawrence dean...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, Would setting the spoolenable attribute of cfmail to no possibly help the issue? I have no idea if CF utilizes existing connections when not using it's spool, but it is worth a try. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I can't reproduce locally, as this is an Enterprise only feature in the admin. I know this is not hosteks fault, I just need it sorted. Hostek have already stated the below response. The change suggested below, actually does fix this at least it has been working fine for over 8 months, till recently when the mail just keeps stopping every two days. And then I started seeing other web applications emails in my sent folder. Response from Hostek. *We have identified the cause of the issue. The setting 'Maintain connection to mail server' in the 'Mail' section of the CFAdmin is what is causing this. If multiple sites on the server are using the same SMTP server, such as 'smtp.gmail.com', this setting causes ColdFusion to re-use that connection until it completes sending emails to that server that are currently in the queue. So, if both sites send an e-mail with the same 10-15 second period, it re-used the first site's authentication credentials since it did not re-establish the connection. This is not an issue for sites using the default cfmail settings since the local smtp service does not use username/password credentials, and it improves performance for mail sent locally when there is a lot of mail being sent. However, for now, I have disabled the 'Maintain connection to mail server' option to prevent the issue when using external mail servers. We will submit a bug report to Adobe suggesting that they treat CFMail tags with different authentication credentials as if they were sending to different servers (I.E. only use the same connection if the same username/password are specified). * Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Are both of the sites in question developed by you or completely unrelated? If they are unrelated and have no access to the other one then this would clearly point to a problem with cf and not hosteks fault. In which case you should yry to reproduce locally with the same version of cf. If they are related to you then this is more likely you are using the same smtp settings somewhere. There is one way to completely bypass cfmail for sending email, and also get much better tracking, reporting and reliability at the same time. Take a look at sendgrid.net and sending via their api. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 13:16, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Sort off, just have no proof that is what is happening to me. What I do know, is that I have 5 emails that is clearly sent from another web application on the same server, sitting in my sent folder. I have been having issues with Hostek the last four weeks where my mail just stops being sent, they are at a loss to explain this, but there are errors to do with authentication in the logs. At least this is what I am being told and shown. Some months ago, I had this issue and emailed the person that I was getting these emails from and he was dumbfounded as well, and was not aware that this was happening. What I can tell you is that there is a setting in the CFadmin to keep the mail connection open. However it appears that if this setting is switched on, and two people with seconds of each other send an email to the same server, ColdFusion will hold the connection open and use the credentials of the previous person. So for arguments sake if I send an email via my website, and another customer does the same from their website, then the mail is sent using the
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
Russ, are you saying that the spool enable is the one that is keeping the connection open? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Andrew the settings referred to are under the smtp settings in your cfadmin. You do not need access to the hosts cfadmin to use spoolenable you pass it as an attribute in your cfmail tag. You can view all the cfmail attributes at the online docs. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 14:19, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356520 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
Andrew, yes, that is an option that you can set server wide, but I was referring to the attribute for just the cfmail tag. I do believe that if you set it on a tag level, that it overrides the main server setting. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Dean, sorry I have no access to a shared hosting providers cfadmin. So I am at their mercy to make changes to fix the issue. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 -- --- Dean M. Lawrence INTERNET DATA TECHNOLOGY p // 888.438.4381 ext. 701 w // www.idatatech.com f // www.facebook.com/idatatech t // www.twitter.com/idatatech Social Marketing | SEO | Design | Internet Development ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356521 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
No I am simply responding to tge previous suggestion to try this to which you replied that you no acces to the hosts cradmin, so Ivam pointingvout that you do not need access to their ffadmin to fobthid. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 14:31, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Russ, are you saying that the spool enable is the one that is keeping the connection open? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Andrew the settings referred to are under the smtp settings in your cfadmin. You do not need access to the hosts cfadmin to use spoolenable you pass it as an attribute in your cfmail tag. You can view all the cfmail attributes at the online docs. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 14:19, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356522 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Do you have a bug #? On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: And yes Adobe have known about this bug for over 8+ months. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356523 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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No I don't Ray, it was lodged by Hostek. I guess I can ask them for it. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.comwrote: Do you have a bug #? On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: And yes Adobe have known about this bug for over 8+ months. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356525 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
ok, all that aside, I would still consider the problem a major issue either way. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: No I am simply responding to tge previous suggestion to try this to which you replied that you no acces to the hosts cradmin, so Ivam pointingvout that you do not need access to their ffadmin to fobthid. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 14:31, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Russ, are you saying that the spool enable is the one that is keeping the connection open? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: Andrew the settings referred to are under the smtp settings in your cfadmin. You do not need access to the hosts cfadmin to use spoolenable you pass it as an attribute in your cfmail tag. You can view all the cfmail attributes at the online docs. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 14:19, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356524 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
I haven't tried to send email from my site...But I am using hostek as my host and google apps mail for my email. Eric -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:50 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail? I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their hosting, and using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent. There appears to be an issue on their servers at the moment, where mail being sent just stops, well for me at least. Also it is possible that some people are seeing your mail without you knowing about it. For example, I have 3 other customers of Hostek who have sent email from their hosted website on hostek, sitting in my sent folders. I wont go into the implications this has from a security point of view, with details sitting in my gmail account about someone else's intended email. But it is a known bug in ColdFusion that seems to not be that well known, at least nothing can be found via a google search any way. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356526 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
Eric, I think it would be safe to say if your not sending email using your gmail account, then you are not affected. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I haven't tried to send email from my site...But I am using hostek as my host and google apps mail for my email. Eric ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356527 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
Here's the bug. https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bugid=3369472 I'm going to blog this as well. -Mark -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:10 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail? I haven't tried to send email from my site...But I am using hostek as my host and google apps mail for my email. Eric -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:50 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail? I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their hosting, and using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent. There appears to be an issue on their servers at the moment, where mail being sent just stops, well for me at least. Also it is possible that some people are seeing your mail without you knowing about it. For example, I have 3 other customers of Hostek who have sent email from their hosted website on hostek, sitting in my sent folders. I wont go into the implications this has from a security point of view, with details sitting in my gmail account about someone else's intended email. But it is a known bug in ColdFusion that seems to not be that well known, at least nothing can be found via a google search any way. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356528 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
Going to ping internally. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Mark A Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.comwrote: Here's the bug. https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bugid=3369472 I'm going to blog this as well. -Mark -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:10 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail? I haven't tried to send email from my site...But I am using hostek as my host and google apps mail for my email. Eric -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:50 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail? I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their hosting, and using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent. There appears to be an issue on their servers at the moment, where mail being sent just stops, well for me at least. Also it is possible that some people are seeing your mail without you knowing about it. For example, I have 3 other customers of Hostek who have sent email from their hosted website on hostek, sitting in my sent folders. I wont go into the implications this has from a security point of view, with details sitting in my gmail account about someone else's intended email. But it is a known bug in ColdFusion that seems to not be that well known, at least nothing can be found via a google search any way. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356529 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
A work around to this would be to setup smtp.yourdomain cname record pointing to smtp.gmail.com and use that instead then you won't use an existing connection. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 15:24, Mark A Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote: Here's the bug. https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bugid=3369472 I'm going to blog this as well. -Mark -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:10 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail? I haven't tried to send email from my site...But I am using hostek as my host and google apps mail for my email. Eric -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:50 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail? I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their hosting, and using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent. There appears to be an issue on their servers at the moment, where mail being sent just stops, well for me at least. Also it is possible that some people are seeing your mail without you knowing about it. For example, I have 3 other customers of Hostek who have sent email from their hosted website on hostek, sitting in my sent folders. I wont go into the implications this has from a security point of view, with details sitting in my gmail account about someone else's intended email. But it is a known bug in ColdFusion that seems to not be that well known, at least nothing can be found via a google search any way. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356530 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
hmm, that would be a simple solution. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: A work around to this would be to setup smtp.yourdomain cname record pointing to smtp.gmail.com and use that instead then you won't use an existing connection. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 21 Aug 2013 15:24, Mark A Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote: Here's the bug. https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bugid=3369472 I'm going to blog this as well. -Mark -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:10 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail? I haven't tried to send email from my site...But I am using hostek as my host and google apps mail for my email. Eric -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:50 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail? I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their hosting, and using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent. There appears to be an issue on their servers at the moment, where mail being sent just stops, well for me at least. Also it is possible that some people are seeing your mail without you knowing about it. For example, I have 3 other customers of Hostek who have sent email from their hosted website on hostek, sitting in my sent folders. I wont go into the implications this has from a security point of view, with details sitting in my gmail account about someone else's intended email. But it is a known bug in ColdFusion that seems to not be that well known, at least nothing can be found via a google search any way. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356531 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
Ok.. I blogged this issue for posterity. Now let's vote this bug up :) http://bit.ly/16x4ilg -Mark Mark Kruger - CFG CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com O: 402.932.3318 E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com Skype: markakruger ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356534 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
I just talked to our system admins about this one, and none of them or myself have ever heard of a customer reporting this issue on our end. I checked a few of the CF servers and they all seem to be configured with Spooling to disk and maintain connection as checked, which I think is pretty much the default configuration. So maybe there is something to the theory that this doesn't happen with spooling enabled. Byron Mann Lead Engineer Architect HostMySite.com On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Mark A Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.comwrote: Ok.. I blogged this issue for posterity. Now let's vote this bug up :) http://bit.ly/16x4ilg -Mark Mark Kruger - CFG CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com O: 402.932.3318 E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com Skype: markakruger ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356536 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
I saw Adobe's bug post, they mentioned my work around but didn't really explain it properly at all, I doubt many people will even understand that. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Mark A Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.comwrote: Ok.. I blogged this issue for posterity. Now let's vote this bug up :) http://bit.ly/16x4ilg -Mark Mark Kruger - CFG CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com O: 402.932.3318 E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com Skype: markakruger ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356537 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
