Re: GODaddy SSL certs
Tim Laureska wrote: >Has anybody had experience with these... any issues... cost looks good > > There are loads of companies out there that do low-cost SSL certs, including one that does them for free! What you have to be concerned about, however, is whether the Certificate Authority (the organization that tells the world your cert is legit) is supported by your visitor's browser - many aren't thus your visitors get a security warning. What I recommend doing is checking to see what your browser stats are and test each one on the different certs you are considering - if they work, good, if not then avoid them. Note that there is no security difference between an expensive one versus a cheap one, the difference is the perception for your visitors - if they get a weird popup they might get scared off. -- *Damien McKenna* - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 "Nothing endures but change." - Heraclitus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: GODaddy SSL certs
ubiquity isn't up to the same standard that you get from Comodo, which I'm using. I pay $42.88 as a reseller per cert (being a reseller gets me instant issuance as well). The GoDaddy certs are about half that cost, but when I eventually unburied their actual browser stats they were worse than Comodo (InstantSSL) by a noticeable margin. Forget exactly what it was now. -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: GODaddy SSL certs
I bought one from thawte for $19.00, at FreeSSL.com. It works on 96% of all browsers and we have never had a problem. We use it in our development environment, where who issues it isn't important. For real world stuff I always suggest a more recognized company like VeriSign or Geotrust. Though they all are just about the same, I feel that people are more comfortable when the company is one that they have heard of. David -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: GODaddy SSL certs Tim Laureska wrote: >Has anybody had experience with these... any issues... cost looks good > > There are loads of companies out there that do low-cost SSL certs, including one that does them for free! What you have to be concerned about, however, is whether the Certificate Authority (the organization that tells the world your cert is legit) is supported by your visitor's browser - many aren't thus your visitors get a security warning. What I recommend doing is checking to see what your browser stats are and test each one on the different certs you are considering - if they work, good, if not then avoid them. Note that there is no security difference between an expensive one versus a cheap one, the difference is the perception for your visitors - if they get a weird popup they might get scared off. -- *Damien McKenna* - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 "Nothing endures but change." - Heraclitus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: GODaddy SSL certs
This is what they (god Daddy) shows on their site: QUOTE: Our root certificate - the Valicert Class 2 Policy Validation Authority - is installed in the following browser versions . Internet Explorer 5.01 and higher . AOL 5 and higher . Netscape 4.7 and higher . Opera 7.5 and higher. . Safari on Mac OS X 10.3.4 or higher . Mozilla (all versions) . Firefox (all versions) . Konqueror (all versions) That equals 99% total browser ubiquity END QUOTE -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: GODaddy SSL certs ubiquity isn't up to the same standard that you get from Comodo, which I'm using. I pay $42.88 as a reseller per cert (being a reseller gets me instant issuance as well). The GoDaddy certs are about half that cost, but when I eventually unburied their actual browser stats they were worse than Comodo (InstantSSL) by a noticeable margin. Forget exactly what it was now. -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: GODaddy SSL certs
GoDaddy's a fairly well know name... yes, primarily domain name registrations but.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: GODaddy SSL certs I bought one from thawte for $19.00, at FreeSSL.com. It works on 96% of all browsers and we have never had a problem. We use it in our development environment, where who issues it isn't important. For real world stuff I always suggest a more recognized company like VeriSign or Geotrust. Though they all are just about the same, I feel that people are more comfortable when the company is one that they have heard of. David -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: GODaddy SSL certs Tim Laureska wrote: >Has anybody had experience with these... any issues... cost looks good > > There are loads of companies out there that do low-cost SSL certs, including one that does them for free! What you have to be concerned about, however, is whether the Certificate Authority (the organization that tells the world your cert is legit) is supported by your visitor's browser - many aren't thus your visitors get a security warning. What I recommend doing is checking to see what your browser stats are and test each one on the different certs you are considering - if they work, good, if not then avoid them. Note that there is no security difference between an expensive one versus a cheap one, the difference is the perception for your visitors - if they get a weird popup they might get scared off. -- *Damien McKenna* - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 "Nothing endures but change." - Heraclitus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: GODaddy SSL certs
And Comodo claims better compatibility (below). I don't pay much attention to percentage claims, as thats all they are with all of these guys: IE 5.00 is the default for a bare win2k install and I've seen a disturbing amount of traffic using it. Same with older NN's. The Opera stuff is just gravy. Only a fraction of a percent in toto anyway across all versions. It wound up being maybe a 1-2 point pop based on my global stats. Remember also that GoDaddy has 25% 'revenue sharing' over a certain price point, so that may add to the real price you pay if you are a reseller. I worked it out and the difference was like 15 bucks for a cert I charge an installed fee of $130 for. Not worth messing with to shave a couple bucks. Internet Explorer 5.00 and above Netscape 4.x and above AOL 5 and above Opera 5 and above Root Certificate comes pre-installed with: Windows 98SE Windows ME Windows 2000 Windows XP Mac OS 8.5 Mac OS 9.x Mac OS X -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: GODaddy SSL certs
Tim Laureska wrote: >Our root certificate - the Valicert Class 2 Policy Validation Authority >- is installed in the following browser versions > > Just as a warning, I've seen some sites state that and then end up with some visitors getting security warnings. Just be careful and double-check their stats if it is important to you. -- *Damien McKenna* - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 "Nothing endures but change." - Heraclitus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: GODaddy SSL certs
Where can you go to "check their stats"? -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 1:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: GODaddy SSL certs Tim Laureska wrote: >Our root certificate - the Valicert Class 2 Policy Validation Authority >- is installed in the following browser versions > > Just as a warning, I've seen some sites state that and then end up with some visitors getting security warnings. Just be careful and double-check their stats if it is important to you. -- *Damien McKenna* - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 "Nothing endures but change." - Heraclitus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: GODaddy SSL certs
Tim Laureska wrote: >Where can you go to "check their stats"? > > Double-check them yourself, as I suggested in a previous email. -- *Damien McKenna* - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 "Nothing endures but change." - Heraclitus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: GODaddy SSL certs
Yeah, I know what you said in the previous email... but where do you check stats like that ... is there a web site that tracks this or how would you determine their "stats" other than relying on what they say in their web site? -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: GODaddy SSL certs Tim Laureska wrote: >Where can you go to "check their stats"? > > Double-check them yourself, as I suggested in a previous email. -- *Damien McKenna* - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 "Nothing endures but change." - Heraclitus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: GODaddy SSL certs
Tim Laureska wrote: >Yeah, I know what you said in the previous email... but where do you >check stats like that ... is there a web site that tracks this or how >would you determine their "stats" other than relying on what they say in >their web site? > > I don't know of any off hand. I would say that if a base install of IE 5.0 (e.g. Windows 2000) can't support them then you might consider something else. -- *Damien McKenna* - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 "Nothing endures but change." - Heraclitus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: GODaddy SSL certs
Tim, Maybe what you should do is check the stats of the sites you propose to install these certs for. Do it for a 1-yr period. If you see an IE5.0 visit percentage, and NN4 (or whatever else that is visible that doesn't conform to GoDaddy's capabilities) then you can expect that percentage of users to be disenfranchised. Respectfully, let me again mention we're talking like ten or fifteen bucks here, assuming reseller accts on both services. Its not a big decision to have to make. You'll lose more than that in time fielding one phone call from a cranky client. One thing I'd also like to counterpoint from an earlier post is that customers are generally ignorant of where the cert comes from (i.e. verisign, getrust etc.) other than to know it came from you and you get the call if it doesn't work perfectly. We'd probably better start winding this up as it is WOT. -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: GODaddy SSL certs
http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/sdata/200409/certca.html break down of market share.. I don't see ValiCert (go daddy) in there... SSLReivew.com doesn't exist no more.. but checkout some of there pages on WayBackMachine.. http://www.archive.org/web/web.php We use GeoTrust QuickSSL ($45.00/yr).. used to be with thawte but once veriSign took over.. kissed them goodby.. If you need a SSL seal.. then go with a certificate that provides one.. (GeoT QuickSSL Pro, VeriSign, Comodo.. etc..) stay away from vendors that relay on Baltimore Tech Root.. in the past they seem to have had many problems.. Damien McKenna wrote: > Tim Laureska wrote: > > >Yeah, I know what you said in the previous email... but where do you > >check stats like that ... is there a web site that tracks this or how > >would you determine their "stats" other than relying on what they say in > >their web site? > > > > > I don't know of any off hand. I would say that if a base install of IE > 5.0 (e.g. Windows 2000) can't support them then you might consider > something else. > -- > *Damien McKenna* - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 > "Nothing endures but change." - Heraclitus > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
