RE: cfchart not working on new server
Hi Jared, Thanks for the help. Yes, they're being created correctly. I can clear the server's c:\cfusionmx7\charting\cache folder, visit this page http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm then download and view the generated chart in a browser. So they're definitely being generated and they're not some weird non-browser-compatible format. There's nothing in the CF logs -- but that's probably right as CF thinks it's all working; it doesn't know the browser's never retrieving the image, or at least it doesn't know why the browser's never retrieving it. There are entries in the IIS logs. They look like this: 2005-06-13 00:00:37 W3SVC1171077089 CCM 203.167.250.62 GET /chart.cfm - 80 - 202.0.37.177 HTTP/1.1 Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+6.0;+Windows+NT+5.1;+SV1;+.NET+CLR+1.1.4322) - 200 0 0 16710 1146 Or: Date2005-06-13 Time00:00:37 s-sitename W3SVC1171077089 s-computername CCM s-ip203.167.250.62 cs-method GET cs-uri-stem /chart.cfm cs-uri-query- s-port 80 cs-username - c-ip202.0.37.177 cs-version HTTP/1.1 cs(User-Agent) Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+6.0;+Windows+NT+5.1;+SV1;+.NET+CLR+1.1.4322) cs(Referer) - sc-status 200 sc-substatus0 sc-win32-status 0 sc-bytes16710 cs-bytes1146 So that looks OK to me. I note sc-bytes says 16710, while the file size is 18577 bytes. Don't know if that is meaningful. I don't actually know what these figures are, but I'm guessing sc-bytes is the amount of data sent from the server and cs-bytes is the amount sent from the client. Curiously, if I do as you say and visit the address image: http://www.christchurchnz.net/CFIDE/GraphData.cfm?graphCache=wc50graphID=Im ages/100010.JPG then I get garbage that looks like it could be a jpg. But if I download it, graphics software won't open the file. I'm wondering if it's getting truncated. If I try uploading the image I've downloaded earlier from the c:\cfusionmx7\charting\cache folder, then I get the following in the log file: 2005-06-13 00:21:52 W3SVC1171077089 CCM 203.167.250.62 GET /15.jpg - 80 - 202.0.37.177 HTTP/1.1 Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+6.0;+Windows+NT+5.1;+SV1;+.NET+CLR+1.1.4322) - 200 0 0 1 1147 Which has what I'd think is an appropriate number for sc-bytes (i.e. slightly bigger than the file size rather than slightly smaller). That's about all I can figure out though. -Original Message- From: Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2005 3:38 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfchart not working on new server Matthew, you said these image files were being created correctly, right? Do they look like they should even if they're not being sent back to the browser? Have you checked (or had the host check) windows and CF error logs? There should be something. If the issue was the result of a headless Win install, chances are that the graphing subsystem would fail during CFMX bootstrap... that's how it works on Linux, and also the primary cause of CFCHART issues on linux. People fail to understand that CFMX needs the basic X libraries to get cfchart to work. If you do a view source after hitting a page that's got a CFChart in it, you should see some URL information that's used to transfer the images/movies from the Chart servlet to the browser... trying hitting that URL alone and seeing what error message you get. Go from there, paying particular attention to paths, virtual or otherwise, that are missing or incorrect. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209259 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: cfchart not working on new server
Yes, when i said mappings i meant virtual directories in IIS. We had exactly the same problem as Matthew did and creating that file and those virtual directories solved the problem. Allan - Original Message - From: Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 5:38 AM Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: cfchart not working on new server Allan: Regarding #2 below, I assume you mean create a virtual directory of /CFIDE that points to CFIDE in the system? CF mappings on Standard are server-wide, and they're server-wide on Enterprise unless you're using Sandboxing to lock them down. If you create a virtual directory, all your servers will be able to hit http://my.url.com/cfide/administrator/index.cfm, whereas using a mapping enables just directory access without exposing CFIDE in the webroot of the application. Having the files accessible from the cfchart tag should only need the mapping because it relies on the accessibility of the files, not on being able to use them in a browser. And if you're using mappings, you only need 1 per CF instance, barring any sandboxing. Also, anything you need universally can go in {cfhome}\wwwroot because that's basically a universal mapping. If you put CFIDE in it, beware, though...by default it will be available to the browser from all sites, all URLs connected to that CF instance via a webserver connector. Now JrunScripts is a different matter, because for some reason that's always a virtual directory... when you create it (in each site that will be accessing CF), you're going to need to edit the properties and add the Jrun Server Filter in the ISAPI filters tab and in the Virtual Directory properties tab for the directory click Remove against the application attributes and uncheck Read. If you check your wwwroot/web-inf/web.xml file, you'll see that GraphData.cfm is a servlet mapping, so adding a CF template to /cfide wouldn't do much. It's the same as IDE.cfm, which is the servlet mapping for RDS... these can be executed from a browser via the URL specified, but they're trapped by Jrun and mapped out to specific servlets for special handling. It's basically Jrun spoofing a CFM template to the CF server. Matthew, you said these image files were being created correctly, right? Do they look like they should even if they're not being sent back to the browser? Have you checked (or had the host check) windows and CF error logs? There should be something. If the issue was the result of a headless Win install, chances are that the graphing subsystem would fail during CFMX bootstrap... that's how it works on Linux, and also the primary cause of CFCHART issues on linux. People fail to understand that CFMX needs the basic X libraries to get cfchart to work. If you do a view source after hitting a page that's got a CFChart in it, you should see some URL information that's used to transfer the images/movies from the Chart servlet to the browser... trying hitting that URL alone and seeing what error message you get. Go from there, paying particular attention to paths, virtual or otherwise, that are missing or incorrect. Good luck! J ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209219 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: cfchart not working on new server
Actually this is starting to make sense... If you add /CFIDE as a virtual dir and add GraphData.cfm to it, then IIS won't balk as per the other message in this thread (can't recall who posted it), but will allow the URL to be executed. Then, since the URL is actually a Jrun servlet mapping, Jrun itself never tries to execute the physical file because the servlet mapping fires. So by adding a virtual directory of CFIDE and adding that cfm template, you're satisfying IIS to let it pass the URL along to Jrun... which then handles the call without ever even looking at the physical files. If I were you, I'd fix the issue outlined in the message posted about the IIS issue not executing missing files rather than adding a CFIDE virtual directory to all your sites... Just my 2 cents. Laterz! J On 6/11/05, Allan Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, when i said mappings i meant virtual directories in IIS. We had exactly the same problem as Matthew did and creating that file and those virtual directories solved the problem. Allan -- --- - Buy SQLSurveyor! http://www.web-relevant.com/sqlsurveyor Never make your developers open Enterprise Manager again. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209221 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: cfchart not working on new server
The poster said that the option for chekcing for files was already unselected, so that's not the issue. I checked the URL the original post gave, http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm, and the image location therein: http://www.christchurchnz.net/CFIDE/GraphData.cfm?graphCache=wc50graphI D=Images/100015.JPG which returns a page that prompts to open or download rather than being processed by CF properly (as per the usual behaviour for a webserver connector issue). Take out the URL vars http://www.christchurchnz.net/CFIDE/GraphData.cfm and (correctly) the page provides a 500 error about an error in the graphing engine, so the Servlet mapping is already working correctly. This one has me stumped for the moment. -Original Message- From: Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2005 3:18 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: cfchart not working on new server Actually this is starting to make sense... If you add /CFIDE as a virtual dir and add GraphData.cfm to it, then IIS won't balk as per the other message in this thread (can't recall who posted it), but will allow the URL to be executed. Then, since the URL is actually a Jrun servlet mapping, Jrun itself never tries to execute the physical file because the servlet mapping fires. So by adding a virtual directory of CFIDE and adding that cfm template, you're satisfying IIS to let it pass the URL along to Jrun... which then handles the call without ever even looking at the physical files. If I were you, I'd fix the issue outlined in the message posted about the IIS issue not executing missing files rather than adding a CFIDE virtual directory to all your sites... ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209222 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfchart not working on new server
We have recently had three CF7/IIS2003 servers set up for us at a third party hosting company. These are brand new installs on brand new machines. All is well except that cfchart is not working for us. It works fine for us on our local CF7/IIS2003 machine. We've been unable to spot the difference between the setups. Have they got the same graphics card? We once had a weird problem with charts not working - on the original version of CFMX I think - which we eventually traced to the graphics card. Nick ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209186 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfchart not working on new server
If I remember correctly. What you have to do is. 1. Create the file CFIDE/GraphData.cfm (Put a comment only in it) 2. Create a mapping for EACH site to CFIDE (C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE) and JRunScripts (C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1) 3. Restart CFMX server and Bob should be your Uncle. Allan -Original Message- From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2005 01:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: cfchart not working on new server We have recently had three CF7/IIS2003 servers set up for us at a third party hosting company. These are brand new installs on brand new machines. All is well except that cfchart is not working for us. It works fine for us on our local CF7/IIS2003 machine. We've been unable to spot the difference between the setups. We are running the test example listed at the end of this post. It doesn't run for any format. You can see the result here: http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm I have looked in c:\cfusionmx7\charting\cache\ http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm and found that the jpg files are indeed getting generated in there. We have mappings set up on both servers: /CFIDE = D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE although graphdata.cfm (which shows up in the image source) isn't a physical file as far as I can tell so I'm guessing that mapping doesn't make any difference. Any ideas where I should look? The sample we're testing: cfchart format=jpg chartwidth=400 chartheight=300 seriesplacement=stacked show3d=true cfchartseries type=bar seriesLabel=January cfchartdata item=Books value=60/ cfchartdata item=DVD's value=30/ cfchartdata item=Videos value=25/ cfchartdata item=CD's value=39/ cfchartdata item=Magazines value=55/ /cfchartseries cfchartseries type=bar seriesLabel=February cfchartdata item=Books value=40/ cfchartdata item=DVD's value=57/ cfchartdata item=Videos value=25/ cfchartdata item=CD's value=29/ cfchartdata item=Magazines value=15/ /cfchartseries cfchartseries type=bar seriesLabel=March cfchartdata item=Books value=36/ cfchartdata item=DVD's value=20/ cfchartdata item=Videos value=20/ cfchartdata item=CD's value=45/ cfchartdata item=Magazines value=20/ /cfchartseries /cfchart ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209187 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfchart not working on new server
If I remember correctly. What you have to do is. 1. Create the file CFIDE/GraphData.cfm (Put a comment only in it) 2. Create a mapping for EACH site to CFIDE (C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE) and JRunScripts (C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1) 3. Restart CFMX server and Bob should be your Uncle. Allan ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209188 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfchart not working on new server
Regarding the video drivers mentioned before, it used to be you needed to have an driver installed capable of at least 256 colors. I guess that still stands for CF7. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209189 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfchart not working on new server
Can Windows even run in headless mode? No, not yet. Actually, I think Windows Server 2003 can run in headless mode, so I was wrong. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209192 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
cfchart not working on new server
I had a problem with cfchart crashing my development machine (but the same code working fine on the server). We Mike Nimer's help, we traced it to some fonts installed in my machine (they were chess fonts - bitmapped fonts for chess diagrams). As soon as we iuninstalled the fonts (just taking them out of the font's folder) the problem went away. Just a possibility We have recently had three CF7/IIS2003 servers set up for us at a third party hosting company. These are brand new installs on brand new machines. All is well except that cfchart is not working for us. It works fine for us on our local CF7/IIS2003 machine. We've been unable to spot the difference between the setups. We are running the test example listed at the end of this post. It doesn't run for any format. You can see the result here: http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm I have looked in c:\cfusionmx7\charting\cache\ http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm and found that the jpg files are indeed getting generated in there. We have mappings set up on both servers: /CFIDE = D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE although graphdata.cfm (which shows up in the image source) isn't a physical file as far as I can tell so I'm guessing that mapping doesn't make any difference. Any ideas where I should look? The sample we're testing: cfchart format=jpg chartwidth=400 chartheight=300 seriesplacement=stacked show3d=true cfchartseries type=bar seriesLabel=January cfchartdata item=Books value=60/ cfchartdata item=DVD's value=30/ cfchartdata item=Videos value=25/ cfchartdata item=CD's value=39/ cfchartdata item=Magazines value=55/ /cfchartseries cfchartseries type=bar seriesLabel=February cfchartdata item=Books value=40/ cfchartdata item=DVD's value=57/ cfchartdata item=Videos value=25/ cfchartdata item=CD's value=29/ cfchartdata item=Magazines value=15/ /cfchartseries cfchartseries type=bar seriesLabel=March cfchartdata item=Books value=36/ cfchartdata item=DVD's value=20/ cfchartdata item=Videos value=20/ cfchartdata item=CD's value=45/ cfchartdata item=Magazines value=20/ /cfchartseries /cfchart ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209205 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfchart not working on new server
Aha, that was my sneaking suspicion. Although the poster suggested that the charts were being generated in the right place so this isn't the problem anyway. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 11:31 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfchart not working on new server Can Windows even run in headless mode? No, not yet. Actually, I think Windows Server 2003 can run in headless mode, so I was wrong. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209212 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfchart not working on new server
Allan: Regarding #2 below, I assume you mean create a virtual directory of /CFIDE that points to CFIDE in the system? CF mappings on Standard are server-wide, and they're server-wide on Enterprise unless you're using Sandboxing to lock them down. If you create a virtual directory, all your servers will be able to hit http://my.url.com/cfide/administrator/index.cfm, whereas using a mapping enables just directory access without exposing CFIDE in the webroot of the application. Having the files accessible from the cfchart tag should only need the mapping because it relies on the accessibility of the files, not on being able to use them in a browser. And if you're using mappings, you only need 1 per CF instance, barring any sandboxing. Also, anything you need universally can go in {cfhome}\wwwroot because that's basically a universal mapping. If you put CFIDE in it, beware, though...by default it will be available to the browser from all sites, all URLs connected to that CF instance via a webserver connector. Now JrunScripts is a different matter, because for some reason that's always a virtual directory... when you create it (in each site that will be accessing CF), you're going to need to edit the properties and add the Jrun Server Filter in the ISAPI filters tab and in the Virtual Directory properties tab for the directory click Remove against the application attributes and uncheck Read. If you check your wwwroot/web-inf/web.xml file, you'll see that GraphData.cfm is a servlet mapping, so adding a CF template to /cfide wouldn't do much. It's the same as IDE.cfm, which is the servlet mapping for RDS... these can be executed from a browser via the URL specified, but they're trapped by Jrun and mapped out to specific servlets for special handling. It's basically Jrun spoofing a CFM template to the CF server. Matthew, you said these image files were being created correctly, right? Do they look like they should even if they're not being sent back to the browser? Have you checked (or had the host check) windows and CF error logs? There should be something. If the issue was the result of a headless Win install, chances are that the graphing subsystem would fail during CFMX bootstrap... that's how it works on Linux, and also the primary cause of CFCHART issues on linux. People fail to understand that CFMX needs the basic X libraries to get cfchart to work. If you do a view source after hitting a page that's got a CFChart in it, you should see some URL information that's used to transfer the images/movies from the Chart servlet to the browser... trying hitting that URL alone and seeing what error message you get. Go from there, paying particular attention to paths, virtual or otherwise, that are missing or incorrect. Good luck! J On 6/10/05, Allan Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I remember correctly. What you have to do is. 1. Create the file CFIDE/GraphData.cfm (Put a comment only in it) 2. Create a mapping for EACH site to CFIDE (C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE) and JRunScripts (C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1) 3. Restart CFMX server and Bob should be your Uncle. Allan -- --- - Buy SQLSurveyor! http://www.web-relevant.com/sqlsurveyor Never make your developers open Enterprise Manager again. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209216 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
cfchart not working on new server
We have recently had three CF7/IIS2003 servers set up for us at a third party hosting company. These are brand new installs on brand new machines. All is well except that cfchart is not working for us. It works fine for us on our local CF7/IIS2003 machine. We've been unable to spot the difference between the setups. We are running the test example listed at the end of this post. It doesn't run for any format. You can see the result here: http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm I have looked in c:\cfusionmx7\charting\cache\ http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm and found that the jpg files are indeed getting generated in there. We have mappings set up on both servers: /CFIDE = D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE although graphdata.cfm (which shows up in the image source) isn't a physical file as far as I can tell so I'm guessing that mapping doesn't make any difference. Any ideas where I should look? The sample we're testing: cfchart format=jpg chartwidth=400 chartheight=300 seriesplacement=stacked show3d=true cfchartseries type=bar seriesLabel=January cfchartdata item=Books value=60/ cfchartdata item=DVD's value=30/ cfchartdata item=Videos value=25/ cfchartdata item=CD's value=39/ cfchartdata item=Magazines value=55/ /cfchartseries cfchartseries type=bar seriesLabel=February cfchartdata item=Books value=40/ cfchartdata item=DVD's value=57/ cfchartdata item=Videos value=25/ cfchartdata item=CD's value=29/ cfchartdata item=Magazines value=15/ /cfchartseries cfchartseries type=bar seriesLabel=March cfchartdata item=Books value=36/ cfchartdata item=DVD's value=20/ cfchartdata item=Videos value=20/ cfchartdata item=CD's value=45/ cfchartdata item=Magazines value=20/ /cfchartseries /cfchart ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209171 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfchart not working on new server
Hey Matt: I recently had a similar problem, and I wrote to my hosting company, this was their response: === Thank you for using Intermedia Technical Support. This is due to the check that file exists option that is set in IIS for 'bigbugz' Web server. If you want us to UNcheck this option and make your CFGRAPH script working, we would ask you to send us a request along with verification of your identity (the last 5 digits and expiation date of credit card to which your account is billed), so that we could turn this option off. However, please be advised that you will NOT t be able to use custom 404 errors once this option is changed. This is because CFGRAPH makes a call to /CFGraphingPage.cfm, passing parameters of the graph that's displayed. However, the CFGraphingPage.cfm template doesn't actually exist. This isn't a problem with ColdFusion, as it seems to look for this request. However, if IIS checks to see whether or not the file exists before handing it to ColdFusion, it will obviously fail (since it doesn't exist, so ColdFusion never sees it). === Maybe that will help you? Beware, tho, this was CF6.1, not 7, but it might point you in the right direction. Ray Matthew Walker wrote: We have recently had three CF7/IIS2003 servers set up for us at a third party hosting company. These are brand new installs on brand new machines. All is well except that cfchart is not working for us. It works fine for us on our local CF7/IIS2003 machine. We've been unable to spot the difference between the setups. We are running the test example listed at the end of this post. It doesn't run for any format. You can see the result here: http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm I have looked in c:\cfusionmx7\charting\cache\ http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm and found that the jpg files are indeed getting generated in there. We have mappings set up on both servers: /CFIDE = D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE although graphdata.cfm (which shows up in the image source) isn't a physical file as far as I can tell so I'm guessing that mapping doesn't make any difference. Any ideas where I should look? The sample we're testing: cfchart format=jpg chartwidth=400 chartheight=300 seriesplacement=stacked show3d=true cfchartseries type=bar seriesLabel=January cfchartdata item=Books value=60/ cfchartdata item=DVD's value=30/ cfchartdata item=Videos value=25/ cfchartdata item=CD's value=39/ cfchartdata item=Magazines value=55/ /cfchartseries cfchartseries type=bar seriesLabel=February cfchartdata item=Books value=40/ cfchartdata item=DVD's value=57/ cfchartdata item=Videos value=25/ cfchartdata item=CD's value=29/ cfchartdata item=Magazines value=15/ /cfchartseries cfchartseries type=bar seriesLabel=March cfchartdata item=Books value=36/ cfchartdata item=DVD's value=20/ cfchartdata item=Videos value=20/ cfchartdata item=CD's value=45/ cfchartdata item=Magazines value=20/ /cfchartseries /cfchart ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209172 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
re: cfchart not working on new server
not sure this will work but seems though you should put a copy or mapping to the cfide folder in the root of every site on cfmx7. ~Dave the disruptor~ This bottle of lemonaid says contains no lemon juice and the can of Pledge says contains real lemon juice figures @%*((% From: Matthew Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 7:43 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: cfchart not working on new server We have recently had three CF7/IIS2003 servers set up for us at a third party hosting company. These are brand new installs on brand new machines. All is well except that cfchart is not working for us. It works fine for us on our local CF7/IIS2003 machine. We've been unable to spot the difference between the setups. We are running the test example listed at the end of this post. It doesn't run for any format. You can see the result here: http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm I have looked in c:\cfusionmx7\charting\cache\ and found that the jpg files are indeed getting generated in there. We have mappings set up on both servers: /CFIDE = D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE although graphdata.cfm (which shows up in the image source) isn't a physical file as far as I can tell so I'm guessing that mapping doesn't make any difference. Any ideas where I should look? The sample we're testing: chartwidth=400 chartheight=300 seriesplacement=stacked show3d=true ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209173 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfchart not working on new server
Thanks Dave. Tried it: made no difference. I suspect this makes no difference because the GraphData.cfm file isn't a real file anyway so the mappings don't matter. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 11:52 a.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: re: cfchart not working on new server not sure this will work but seems though you should put a copy or mapping to the cfide folder in the root of every site on cfmx7. ~Dave the disruptor~ This bottle of lemonaid says contains no lemon juice and the can of Pledge says contains real lemon juice figures @%*((% From: Matthew Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 7:43 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: cfchart not working on new server We have recently had three CF7/IIS2003 servers set up for us at a third party hosting company. These are brand new installs on brand new machines. All is well except that cfchart is not working for us. It works fine for us on our local CF7/IIS2003 machine. We've been unable to spot the difference between the setups. We are running the test example listed at the end of this post. It doesn't run for any format. You can see the result here: http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm I have looked in c:\cfusionmx7\charting\cache\ and found that the jpg files are indeed getting generated in there. We have mappings set up on both servers: /CFIDE = D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE although graphdata.cfm (which shows up in the image source) isn't a physical file as far as I can tell so I'm guessing that mapping doesn't make any difference. Any ideas where I should look? The sample we're testing: chartwidth=400 chartheight=300 seriesplacement=stacked show3d=true ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209174 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfchart not working on new server
Thanks Ray. I've checked into this and Verify that file exists is already unchecked. -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 11:48 a.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfchart not working on new server Hey Matt: I recently had a similar problem, and I wrote to my hosting company, this was their response: === Thank you for using Intermedia Technical Support. This is due to the check that file exists option that is set in IIS for 'bigbugz' Web server. If you want us to UNcheck this option and make your CFGRAPH script working, we would ask you to send us a request along with verification of your identity (the last 5 digits and expiation date of credit card to which your account is billed), so that we could turn this option off. However, please be advised that you will NOT t be able to use custom 404 errors once this option is changed. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209175 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfchart not working on new server
hum, my thinking was that I know they redid some of the cfchart tags and I was thinking they were using part of the flex engine which would need that cfide file in there. outta curiosity, have you tried a flash form on the dev server yet? ~Dave the disruptor~ This bottle of lemonaid says contains no lemon juice and the can of Pledge says contains real lemon juice figures @%*((% From: Matthew Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:06 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: cfchart not working on new server Thanks Dave. Tried it: made no difference. I suspect this makes no difference because the GraphData.cfm file isn't a real file anyway so the mappings don't matter. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 11:52 a.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: re: cfchart not working on new server not sure this will work but seems though you should put a copy or mapping to the cfide folder in the root of every site on cfmx7. ~Dave the disruptor~ This bottle of lemonaid says contains no lemon juice and the can of Pledge says contains real lemon juice figures @%*((% From: Matthew Walker Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 7:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: cfchart not working on new server We have recently had three CF7/IIS2003 servers set up for us at a third party hosting company. These are brand new installs on brand new machines. All is well except that cfchart is not working for us. It works fine for us on our local CF7/IIS2003 machine. We've been unable to spot the difference between the setups. We are running the test example listed at the end of this post. It doesn't run for any format. You can see the result here: http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm I have looked in c:\cfusionmx7\charting\cache\ and found that the jpg files are indeed getting generated in there. We have mappings set up on both servers: /CFIDE = D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE although graphdata.cfm (which shows up in the image source) isn't a physical file as far as I can tell so I'm guessing that mapping doesn't make any difference. Any ideas where I should look? The sample we're testing: chartwidth=400 chartheight=300 seriesplacement=stacked show3d=true ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209176 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfchart not working on new server
BTW I've also tried in-memory chart caching which didn't make any difference. Yeah cfform works, just not cfchart. Funny how sometimes built-in features like cfchart can be more problematic that third party tools. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 12:19 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfchart not working on new server hum, my thinking was that I know they redid some of the cfchart tags and I was thinking they were using part of the flex engine which would need that cfide file in there. outta curiosity, have you tried a flash form on the dev server yet? ~Dave the disruptor~ This bottle of lemonaid says contains no lemon juice and the can of Pledge says contains real lemon juice figures @%*((% From: Matthew Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:06 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: cfchart not working on new server Thanks Dave. Tried it: made no difference. I suspect this makes no difference because the GraphData.cfm file isn't a real file anyway so the mappings don't matter. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 11:52 a.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: re: cfchart not working on new server not sure this will work but seems though you should put a copy or mapping to the cfide folder in the root of every site on cfmx7. ~Dave the disruptor~ This bottle of lemonaid says contains no lemon juice and the can of Pledge says contains real lemon juice figures @%*((% From: Matthew Walker Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 7:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: cfchart not working on new server We have recently had three CF7/IIS2003 servers set up for us at a third party hosting company. These are brand new installs on brand new machines. All is well except that cfchart is not working for us. It works fine for us on our local CF7/IIS2003 machine. We've been unable to spot the difference between the setups. We are running the test example listed at the end of this post. It doesn't run for any format. You can see the result here: http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm I have looked in c:\cfusionmx7\charting\cache\ and found that the jpg files are indeed getting generated in there. We have mappings set up on both servers: /CFIDE = D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE although graphdata.cfm (which shows up in the image source) isn't a physical file as far as I can tell so I'm guessing that mapping doesn't make any difference. Any ideas where I should look? The sample we're testing: chartwidth=400 chartheight=300 seriesplacement=stacked show3d=true ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209177 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfchart not working on new server
These machines aren't headless by any chance are they? (Can Windows even run in headless mode?) -Original Message- From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 7:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: cfchart not working on new server We have recently had three CF7/IIS2003 servers set up for us at a third party hosting company. These are brand new installs on brand new machines. All is well except that cfchart is not working for us. It works fine for us on our local CF7/IIS2003 machine. We've been unable to spot the difference between the setups. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209178 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfchart not working on new server
hum, my thinking was that I know they redid some of the cfchart tags and I was thinking they were using part of the flex engine which would need that cfide file in there. Actually, the existence of /CFIDE/GraphData.cfm is irrelevant with most web servers, I think, because CF automatically detects that URL pattern whether the file exists or not, and processes it as a graphing request before the web server gets a chance to look for the file on the filesystem. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209179 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfchart not working on new server
Can Windows even run in headless mode? No, not yet. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209180 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfchart not working on new server
well your code certainly does work on a live server http://www.icandfashion.com/test/cfchart.cfm. although thats on a linux box ;) you have helped me so many times, I wish I could help ya back :( ~Dave the disruptor~ This bottle of lemonaid says contains no lemon juice and the can of Pledge says contains real lemon juice figures @%*((% From: Matthew Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:30 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: cfchart not working on new server BTW I've also tried in-memory chart caching which didn't make any difference. Yeah cfform works, just not cfchart. Funny how sometimes built-in features like cfchart can be more problematic that third party tools. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 12:19 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfchart not working on new server hum, my thinking was that I know they redid some of the cfchart tags and I was thinking they were using part of the flex engine which would need that cfide file in there. outta curiosity, have you tried a flash form on the dev server yet? ~Dave the disruptor~ This bottle of lemonaid says contains no lemon juice and the can of Pledge says contains real lemon juice figures @%*((% From: Matthew Walker Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfchart not working on new server Thanks Dave. Tried it: made no difference. I suspect this makes no difference because the GraphData.cfm file isn't a real file anyway so the mappings don't matter. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 11:52 a.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: re: cfchart not working on new server not sure this will work but seems though you should put a copy or mapping to the cfide folder in the root of every site on cfmx7. ~Dave the disruptor~ This bottle of lemonaid says contains no lemon juice and the can of Pledge says contains real lemon juice figures @%*((% From: Matthew Walker Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 7:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: cfchart not working on new server We have recently had three CF7/IIS2003 servers set up for us at a third party hosting company. These are brand new installs on brand new machines. All is well except that cfchart is not working for us. It works fine for us on our local CF7/IIS2003 machine. We've been unable to spot the difference between the setups. We are running the test example listed at the end of this post. It doesn't run for any format. You can see the result here: http://www.christchurchnz.net/chart.cfm I have looked in c:\cfusionmx7\charting\cache\ and found that the jpg files are indeed getting generated in there. We have mappings set up on both servers: /CFIDE = D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFIDE although graphdata.cfm (which shows up in the image source) isn't a physical file as far as I can tell so I'm guessing that mapping doesn't make any difference. Any ideas where I should look? The sample we're testing: chartwidth=400 chartheight=300 seriesplacement=stacked show3d=true ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209184 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfchart not working on new server
I was just thinking that tmaybe the flex engine was now processing cfcharts and if that was the case then it would make sense. I did run his code after renaming CFIDE and it still worked, so as usual I was wrong, lol ~Dave the disruptor~ This bottle of lemonaid says contains no lemon juice and the can of Pledge says contains real lemon juice figures @%*((% From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:52 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: cfchart not working on new server hum, my thinking was that I know they redid some of the cfchart tags and I was thinking they were using part of the flex engine which would need that cfide file in there. Actually, the existence of /CFIDE/GraphData.cfm is irrelevant with most web servers, I think, because CF automatically detects that URL pattern whether the file exists or not, and processes it as a graphing request before the web server gets a chance to look for the file on the filesystem. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209185 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54