Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
I tried the initial release of CFB and had the same slowness issues others have already stated so I never purchased it. I've decided to give it another try since the update should fix some of the problems I experienced, however on reinstall of the trial I need to enter a serial number or it kicks me out since I already had the trial installed once before. Anyone have a contact at Adobe that can help me out? ;) Thanks. - Rodney On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: i believe there was also an option to automatically start cf when u start CFB and stop CF when you stop CFB, this would of course also slow things down as CF does take a while to start, but it never worked for me. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: I had the same problems but I found the cause. I had CFB set to connect to CF automatically and check the server state, RDS etc. If you don't have coldFusion running when u launch CFB (normal on a dev machine) then this will make it slow to start up. Useful tip, thanx Russ. Russ is referring to the Build Server Settings option (Preferences ColdFusion Server Settings) and unchecking (Initiate build when) ColdFusion Builder started. Note, however, that _might_ prevent CFBuilder from resolving mappings for CFCs etc until you Refresh Server (Views Servers select a server and right-click Refresh Server). Since I so rarely stop/start CFBuilder, I don't mind it being slow to startup. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341549 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
I've seen this happen before when the trial was not uninstalled properly or the uninstall didn't complete. This is the the fault of the EVIL licensing software that Adobe crams into all of its products. I had to reinstall and get the same error you got, then use the CFBuilder uninstaller and then reinstall again. This usually fixes the EVIL licensing software. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator Wil Genovese Consulting wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Rodney Enke wrote: I tried the initial release of CFB and had the same slowness issues others have already stated so I never purchased it. I've decided to give it another try since the update should fix some of the problems I experienced, however on reinstall of the trial I need to enter a serial number or it kicks me out since I already had the trial installed once before. Anyone have a contact at Adobe that can help me out? ;) Thanks. - Rodney On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: i believe there was also an option to automatically start cf when u start CFB and stop CF when you stop CFB, this would of course also slow things down as CF does take a while to start, but it never worked for me. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: I had the same problems but I found the cause. I had CFB set to connect to CF automatically and check the server state, RDS etc. If you don't have coldFusion running when u launch CFB (normal on a dev machine) then this will make it slow to start up. Useful tip, thanx Russ. Russ is referring to the Build Server Settings option (Preferences ColdFusion Server Settings) and unchecking (Initiate build when) ColdFusion Builder started. Note, however, that _might_ prevent CFBuilder from resolving mappings for CFCs etc until you Refresh Server (Views Servers select a server and right-click Refresh Server). Since I so rarely stop/start CFBuilder, I don't mind it being slow to startup. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341551 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
Nathan, I have experienced quite a bit of slowness in ColdFusion Builder. It will randomly hang, sometimes it recovers and sometimes it takes so long that I shut it done and restart (at which point the long restart is annoying). A friend recently suggested that closing large projects (not the files - the projects themselves, right-click on the project and click Close Project). I tried that about a week ago and I haven't had any problem since. Here's hoping that holds up... Steve Does that affect anything other than Builder's startup time? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341565 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
Gerald, Your comments about CFB being slow bother me, and warrant some exploration. Can you provide more detail? Do you have projects set up into a shared dev environment over the network? I can't imagine that would be fast for any IDE. I'm not a CFBuilder fan, I've always liked DW. But let's drag DW into it. I've had DW hang on me. Hog resources, run slow, JS errors, etc. I use Coda on my Mac now and really like it. But it's done some kooky things at times. FTP (transmit) has been strange, and some other issues. But I like it in general. Maybe nothing will be perfect. Will ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341566 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
Not to get on the DW bashing wagon, I actually prefer DW for all my work, but I can be buggy as hell. I actually wrote a batch file to kill it when it won't close properly. I found for me when it would hang on close and I would kill the task it would hang on start the next time. I finally discovered that by deleting temp files and a certain registry entry I could fix the problem without have to spend the day uninstalling and reinstalling. Brian C ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341572 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
That's a great tip, Steve. I've heard it before from the old CFEclipse days and practice it regularly. It works especially well if the projects you close are remote. You can also turn off automatic project refreshing, but then you will have to refresh each project/directory tree when a change is made outside the IDE. nathan strutz [http://www.dopefly.com/] [http://hi.im/nathanstrutz] On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Steve Bryant st...@bryantwebconsulting.com wrote: Nathan, I have experienced quite a bit of slowness in ColdFusion Builder. It will randomly hang, sometimes it recovers and sometimes it takes so long that I shut it done and restart (at which point the long restart is annoying). A friend recently suggested that closing large projects (not the files - the projects themselves, right-click on the project and click Close Project). I tried that about a week ago and I haven't had any problem since. Here's hoping that holds up... Steve Does that affect anything other than Builder's startup time? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341573 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
Thanks for the suggestion but it did not work. - Rodney On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I've seen this happen before when the trial was not uninstalled properly or the uninstall didn't complete. This is the the fault of the EVIL licensing software that Adobe crams into all of its products. I had to reinstall and get the same error you got, then use the CFBuilder uninstaller and then reinstall again. This usually fixes the EVIL licensing software. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator Wil Genovese Consulting wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Rodney Enke wrote: I tried the initial release of CFB and had the same slowness issues others have already stated so I never purchased it. I've decided to give it another try since the update should fix some of the problems I experienced, however on reinstall of the trial I need to enter a serial number or it kicks me out since I already had the trial installed once before. Anyone have a contact at Adobe that can help me out? ;) Thanks. - Rodney ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341574 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Steve Bryant st...@bryantwebconsulting.com wrote: A friend recently suggested that closing large projects (not the files - the projects themselves, right-click on the project and click Close Project). I tried that about a week ago and I haven't had any problem since. Yup, when I start work on a project, I tend to right-click Close Unrelated Projects as a matter of course. That's an Eclipse thing, not just CFBuilder, so Eclipse users generally get into the habit of that anyway. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341587 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
Sean, Good to know. I don't remember running into that in CFEclipse, but likely I just didn't have as many large projects running at the time. Thanks, Steve Yup, when I start work on a project, I tend to right-click Close Unrelated Projects as a matter of course. That's an Eclipse thing, not just CFBuilder, so Eclipse users generally get into the habit of that anyway. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341597 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Steve Bryant st...@bryantwebconsulting.com wrote: Good to know. I don't remember running into that in CFEclipse, but likely I just didn't have as many large projects running at the time. I have a bunch of large non-CFML projects in Eclipse so it's a habit I've had to get into :) -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341598 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
Gerald, Your comments about CFB being slow bother me, and warrant some exploration. Can you provide more detail? Do you have projects set up into a shared dev environment over the network? I can't imagine that would be fast for any IDE. I have a copy of all my projects locally, I install CF servers locally (4 different server versions), and I update my dev test servers only by exporting from source control. Having these projects locally lets me do development without screwing with other developers' dev environments. I can't tell you how many times I was refactoring an application's guts at the same time a co-worker was working on a new feature (sorry Alan!). That kind of separation earlier in my career would have really cut down on people yelling at me. nathan strutz [http://www.dopefly.com/] [http://hi.im/nathanstrutz] On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote: Who is being flippant? It's a fact of life that some developer tools cost money. Going out on a limb here It is all relative. Good tools cost do cost good money. But For some here, $300 is chump change. For others, even the gainfully employed, that could mean making a car or mortgage payment, or not. Times are tough. I would wager that some of the folks here vocal about not complaing about it not being expensive have incomes in excess of six figures, or close to it. For those people it is *not* expensive, but for independents or 9-5ers that are struggling to put their kids though college $300 *is* a good chunk of change. I like CFB but it is a dog @ work. Our intranet has thousands of cfm's and cfc's (it handles *all* of our internal business proccesses) and CFB is about as nimble as a mastodon in a tar pit. So is it worth $300 in this instance? Arguably not. Flame on Garth! G! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341426 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
I had the same problems but I found the cause. I had CFB set to connect to CF automatically and check the server state, RDS etc. If you don't have coldFusion running when u launch CFB (normal on a dev machine) then this will make it slow to start up. -Original Message- From: Nathan Strutz [mailto:str...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 January 2011 19:24 To: cf-talk Subject: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive) Gerald, Your comments about CFB being slow bother me, and warrant some exploration. Can you provide more detail? Do you have projects set up into a shared dev environment over the network? I can't imagine that would be fast for any IDE. I have a copy of all my projects locally, I install CF servers locally (4 different server versions), and I update my dev test servers only by exporting from source control. Having these projects locally lets me do development without screwing with other developers' dev environments. I can't tell you how many times I was refactoring an application's guts at the same time a co-worker was working on a new feature (sorry Alan!). That kind of separation earlier in my career would have really cut down on people yelling at me. nathan strutz [http://www.dopefly.com/] [http://hi.im/nathanstrutz] On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote: Who is being flippant? It's a fact of life that some developer tools cost money. Going out on a limb here It is all relative. Good tools cost do cost good money. But For some here, $300 is chump change. For others, even the gainfully employed, that could mean making a car or mortgage payment, or not. Times are tough. I would wager that some of the folks here vocal about not complaing about it not being expensive have incomes in excess of six figures, or close to it. For those people it is *not* expensive, but for independents or 9-5ers that are struggling to put their kids though college $300 *is* a good chunk of change. I like CFB but it is a dog @ work. Our intranet has thousands of cfm's and cfc's (it handles *all* of our internal business proccesses) and CFB is about as nimble as a mastodon in a tar pit. So is it worth $300 in this instance? Arguably not. Flame on Garth! G! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341428 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
I've lobbied for years to get a setup like that here, but it's a no-go. Either way, CFBuilder in both the beta and 1st release version was dog slow randomly. Not all the time, not always on the same template even, just randomly jrun would peg the cpu to 100%. CFEclipse doesn't cause that problem (though it does have its own issues), and CFBuilder kept marking the bug reports as 'unable to duplicate', and it wasn't fixed, so we skipped on it.There was no CF server connection, there wasn't even a server set up. Someday I may try again, but wasting productivity time testing out a product that's already shown it isn't able to handle what I'm doing is low priority. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Nathan Strutz str...@gmail.com wrote: Gerald, Your comments about CFB being slow bother me, and warrant some exploration. Can you provide more detail? Do you have projects set up into a shared dev environment over the network? I can't imagine that would be fast for any IDE. I have a copy of all my projects locally, I install CF servers locally (4 different server versions), and I update my dev test servers only by exporting from source control. Having these projects locally lets me do development without screwing with other developers' dev environments. I can't tell you how many times I was refactoring an application's guts at the same time a co-worker was working on a new feature (sorry Alan!). That kind of separation earlier in my career would have really cut down on people yelling at me. nathan strutz [http://www.dopefly.com/] [http://hi.im/nathanstrutz] ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341432 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
So the solution to that one is just to have CF running before you start CFBuilder. Does that affect anything other than Builder's startup time? nathan strutz [http://www.dopefly.com/] [http://hi.im/nathanstrutz] On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: I had the same problems but I found the cause. I had CFB set to connect to CF automatically and check the server state, RDS etc. If you don't have coldFusion running when u launch CFB (normal on a dev machine) then this will make it slow to start up. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341434 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
Morgan, Do you have any bug numbers I can look into? -Adam On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:39 PM, morgan l greyk...@gmail.com wrote: I've lobbied for years to get a setup like that here, but it's a no-go. Either way, CFBuilder in both the beta and 1st release version was dog slow randomly. Not all the time, not always on the same template even, just randomly jrun would peg the cpu to 100%. CFEclipse doesn't cause that problem (though it does have its own issues), and CFBuilder kept marking the bug reports as 'unable to duplicate', and it wasn't fixed, so we skipped on it.There was no CF server connection, there wasn't even a server set up. Someday I may try again, but wasting productivity time testing out a product that's already shown it isn't able to handle what I'm doing is low priority. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Nathan Strutz str...@gmail.com wrote: Gerald, Your comments about CFB being slow bother me, and warrant some exploration. Can you provide more detail? Do you have projects set up into a shared dev environment over the network? I can't imagine that would be fast for any IDE. I have a copy of all my projects locally, I install CF servers locally (4 different server versions), and I update my dev test servers only by exporting from source control. Having these projects locally lets me do development without screwing with other developers' dev environments. I can't tell you how many times I was refactoring an application's guts at the same time a co-worker was working on a new feature (sorry Alan!). That kind of separation earlier in my career would have really cut down on people yelling at me. nathan strutz [http://www.dopefly.com/] [http://hi.im/nathanstrutz] ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341438 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
Not offhand; we haven't messed with it around here since the 1st release version. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Adrocknaphobia adrocknapho...@gmail.comwrote: Morgan, Do you have any bug numbers I can look into? -Adam On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:39 PM, morgan l greyk...@gmail.com wrote: I've lobbied for years to get a setup like that here, but it's a no-go. Either way, CFBuilder in both the beta and 1st release version was dog slow randomly. Not all the time, not always on the same template even, just randomly jrun would peg the cpu to 100%. CFEclipse doesn't cause that problem (though it does have its own issues), and CFBuilder kept marking the bug reports as 'unable to duplicate', and it wasn't fixed, so we skipped on it.There was no CF server connection, there wasn't even a server set up. Someday I may try again, but wasting productivity time testing out a product that's already shown it isn't able to handle what I'm doing is low priority. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Nathan Strutz str...@gmail.com wrote: Gerald, Your comments about CFB being slow bother me, and warrant some exploration. Can you provide more detail? Do you have projects set up into a shared dev environment over the network? I can't imagine that would be fast for any IDE. I have a copy of all my projects locally, I install CF servers locally (4 different server versions), and I update my dev test servers only by exporting from source control. Having these projects locally lets me do development without screwing with other developers' dev environments. I can't tell you how many times I was refactoring an application's guts at the same time a co-worker was working on a new feature (sorry Alan!). That kind of separation earlier in my career would have really cut down on people yelling at me. nathan strutz [http://www.dopefly.com/] [http://hi.im/nathanstrutz] ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341441 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
It was when it first came out so I am a bit hazy on the details. I am connected over the network to our dev, staging and Prod servers. I really can't develop locally. I have no problem with CFE/Aptana. But DW can be sluggish at times. Since I had one license (and not aware that I could do two installs) I had CFB on my personal lappy so I could use it @ work and home. It was a 1 yr old HP consumer model -- 2.3 duel core, 4 gig ram, etc. Not fast but not slow either. I just remembering it was really sluggish and took forever to gather all the intellesense info for cfc's and all that. And after it spidered Devel it was just a dog. I mean *typing* took forever, scrolling a page made is stutter and stall. It was constantly stalling and or freezing up for 30 seconds to 5-10 + minutes at a time. Very frustrating. So after a couple of days of reading up on it and finding work-a-rounds I needed to get stuff done and went back to CFE. Don't get me wrong. I was really psyched about CFB. I am a certified IDE junky. Hell, I even wrote Ray Camden and asked if he could get me into the Beta program. I am starting to use it @ home recently and it works great on smaller projects. I mean it is a really good tool. Actually now that I can have two installs I am going to try it @ work again with the update. Thanx G! Oh yeah. Thanx for making pagination.cfc. I use it all the time. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Nathan Strutz str...@gmail.com wrote: Gerald, Your comments about CFB being slow bother me, and warrant some exploration. Can you provide more detail? Do you have projects set up into a shared dev environment over the network? I can't imagine that would be fast for any IDE. I have a copy of all my projects locally, I install CF servers locally (4 different server versions), and I update my dev test servers only by exporting from source control. Having these projects locally lets me do development without screwing with other developers' dev environments. I can't tell you how many times I was refactoring an application's guts at the same time a co-worker was working on a new feature (sorry Alan!). That kind of separation earlier in my career would have really cut down on people yelling at me. nathan strutz [http://www.dopefly.com/] [http://hi.im/nathanstrutz] On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote: Who is being flippant? It's a fact of life that some developer tools cost money. Going out on a limb here It is all relative. Good tools cost do cost good money. But For some here, $300 is chump change. For others, even the gainfully employed, that could mean making a car or mortgage payment, or not. Times are tough. I would wager that some of the folks here vocal about not complaing about it not being expensive have incomes in excess of six figures, or close to it. For those people it is *not* expensive, but for independents or 9-5ers that are struggling to put their kids though college $300 *is* a good chunk of change. I like CFB but it is a dog @ work. Our intranet has thousands of cfm's and cfc's (it handles *all* of our internal business proccesses) and CFB is about as nimble as a mastodon in a tar pit. So is it worth $300 in this instance? Arguably not. Flame on Garth! G! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341443 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: I had the same problems but I found the cause. I had CFB set to connect to CF automatically and check the server state, RDS etc. If you don't have coldFusion running when u launch CFB (normal on a dev machine) then this will make it slow to start up. Useful tip, thanx Russ. Russ is referring to the Build Server Settings option (Preferences ColdFusion Server Settings) and unchecking (Initiate build when) ColdFusion Builder started. Note, however, that _might_ prevent CFBuilder from resolving mappings for CFCs etc until you Refresh Server (Views Servers select a server and right-click Refresh Server). Since I so rarely stop/start CFBuilder, I don't mind it being slow to startup. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341447 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)
i believe there was also an option to automatically start cf when u start CFB and stop CF when you stop CFB, this would of course also slow things down as CF does take a while to start, but it never worked for me. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: I had the same problems but I found the cause. I had CFB set to connect to CF automatically and check the server state, RDS etc. If you don't have coldFusion running when u launch CFB (normal on a dev machine) then this will make it slow to start up. Useful tip, thanx Russ. Russ is referring to the Build Server Settings option (Preferences ColdFusion Server Settings) and unchecking (Initiate build when) ColdFusion Builder started. Note, however, that _might_ prevent CFBuilder from resolving mappings for CFCs etc until you Refresh Server (Views Servers select a server and right-click Refresh Server). Since I so rarely stop/start CFBuilder, I don't mind it being slow to startup. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341470 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
