[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
DaleI'm under the impression that MXDU/WebDU is not run for profit.AndrewOn 11/10/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Robin,I realise that this is an event that is held by a commercial company that make money from it.I think however that long term all tech conferences that last the test oftime travel around. People attend every couple of years when it's convenientand that means sometimes due to financial considerations, when it's local. RegardsDale Fraserhttp://dale.fraser.id.au-Original Message-From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On BehalfOf Robin HilliardSent: Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:39 PMTo: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton SydneyYou know it's Daemon's conference?Sure Adobe and others (Microsoft,Straker, Gruden, Nectarine, RocketBoots etc) sponsor the conference but at the end of the day it's something Geoff at Daemon decided tostart up off his own bat.Robin__Robin HilliardOn 11/10/2006, at 1:08 PM, Dale Fraser wrote: That's a lame reason. Adobe aren't in Vegas. If they want this thing to grow and be successful, it needs to travel around. If it was in Melbourne I'd send my whole team, I can't do that to Sydney. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:30 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney Cause Daemon is in Sydney... (Hey.. if I was organising a conference, I'd want it in my backyard too) Mark On 10/11/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My rant for the day, Shouldn't this conference be moving around? There is a large user base in both Victoria Queensland. Why is it in Sydney again? Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com-- ---Andrew Mullerhttp://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
Right, A big event run by a commercial company, not for profit? Sounds like a load of crap. Just because it doesnt make a profit isnt the same as it being NFP. I dont see any references anywhere on the site to it being NFP which is normally splashed everywhere when it is. One quote from the website Our plan is to profit share with the speaker. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Muller Sent: Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:03 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney Dale I'm under the impression that MXDU/WebDU is not run for profit. Andrew On 11/10/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin, I realise that this is an event that is held by a commercial company that make money from it. I think however that long term all tech conferences that last the test of time travel around. People attend every couple of years when it's convenient and that means sometimes due to financial considerations, when it's local. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Hilliard Sent: Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:39 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney You know it's Daemon's conference?Sure Adobe and others (Microsoft, Straker, Gruden, Nectarine, RocketBoots etc) sponsor the conference but at the end of the day it's something Geoff at Daemon decided to start up off his own bat. Robin __ Robin Hilliard On 11/10/2006, at 1:08 PM, Dale Fraser wrote: That's a lame reason. Adobe aren't in Vegas. If they want this thing to grow and be successful, it needs to travel around. If it was in Melbourne I'd send my whole team, I can't do that to Sydney. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:30 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney Cause Daemon is in Sydney... (Hey.. if I was organising a conference, I'd want it in my backyard too) Mark On 10/11/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My rant for the day, Shouldn't this conference be moving around? There is a large user base in both Victoria Queensland. Why is it in Sydney again? Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
Dale,I have to stick up for Geoff here, because he's not one to beat his own gong, but he is actually one of those rare individuals (like the user group managers, authors of open source software, and people who post helpful responses to cfaussie :-) who believes in supporting the community without expectation of immediate reward and has some initiative to do something about it instead of waiting "cargo cult" style for support to arrive from somewhere else.I know for a fact that Webdu generally breaks even with sponsorships and conference fees, but if you took into account the hundred of hours it takes the Daemon staff to organise the conference each year it would be a complete and utter loss maker. The fact that Daemon continue to host the conference despite this is a huge kudos for Geoff, Vivianne, Julie and the team, and has earned them genuine respect from Adobe and other companies in the community. It's up to us, the community, to make things like this conference happen, either by organising them ourselves or supporting those that do. Speaking for myself, this is why RocketBoots has been a silver sponsor of Webdu since we started (even when we were only a few months old) and why we'll continue to sponsor the conference. BTW, the "profit share with the speaker" is specific to the workshops held on day 0 - the speakers have to pay their own way to the conference and allowing them to charge for workshops helps them recover some of (usually not all of) their expenses and for Daemon to pay for training venue hire. __Robin Hilliard On 11/10/2006, at 4:29 PM, Dale Fraser wrote:Right, A big event run by a commercial company, not for profit? Sounds like a load of crap. Just because it doesn’t make a profit isn’t the same as it being NFP. I don’t see any references anywhere on the site to it being NFP which is normally splashed everywhere when it is. One quote from the website “Our plan is to profit share with the speaker”. Regards Dale Fraserhttp://dale.fraser.id.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
Ok, I think you are all missing my point, you say its too small to move, I say its small because it doesnt move. The 90% of Melbourne people that dont go because its in Sydney will never get a chance to be impressed by it and make the effort to fly to Brisbane the next year. I understand there are logistical and cost issues, but they are only a sponsor away from being solved. Add into this the new Flex interested parties, and you might get more bums on seats than you think. Based on recent VIC UG meetings, most people were in attendance when Flex was on the agenda. PS: I have never been because its in Sydney, but I am going to Max. If I have to travel to a conference I want to get the most from my money. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Hilliard Sent: Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:44 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney Dale, I have to stick up for Geoff here, because he's not one to beat his own gong, but he is actually one of those rare individuals (like the user group managers, authors of open source software, and people who post helpful responses to cfaussie :-) who believes in supporting the community without expectation of immediate reward and has some initiative to do something about it instead of waiting cargo cult style for support to arrive from somewhere else. I know for a fact that Webdu generally breaks even with sponsorships and conference fees, but if you took into account the hundred of hours it takes the Daemon staff to organise the conference each year it would be a complete and utter loss maker. The fact that Daemon continue to host the conference despite this is a huge kudos for Geoff, Vivianne, Julie and the team, and has earned them genuine respect from Adobe and other companies in the community. It's up to us, the community, to make things like this conference happen, either by organising them ourselves or supporting those that do. Speaking for myself, this is why RocketBoots has been a silver sponsor of Webdu since we started (even when we were only a few months old) and why we'll continue to sponsor the conference. BTW, the profit share with the speaker is specific to the workshops held on day 0 - the speakers have to pay their own way to the conference and allowing them to charge for workshops helps them recover some of (usually not all of) their expenses and for Daemon to pay for training venue hire. __ Robin Hilliard On 11/10/2006, at 4:29 PM, Dale Fraser wrote: Right, A big event run by a commercial company, not for profit? Sounds like a load of crap. Just because it doesnt make a profit isnt the same as it being NFP. I dont see any references anywhere on the site to it being NFP which is normally splashed everywhere when it is. One quote from the website Our plan is to profit share with the speaker. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
Or keep your eye out for a happy hour special. On 10/11/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, for non-sydney residents, all I can say is Virgin Blue EarlyBird Specials --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: datepicker
always liked this one: http://www.dynarch.com/projects/calendar/On 10/10/06, grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Anybody care to recommend a well-designed capable easy-to-deploy cross-browser _javascript_ datepicker? Thnks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
PS: I have never been because it's in Sydney, but I am going to Max. If I have to travel to a conference I want to get the most from my money. PS: I have never been to Max because it isn't cheap or easy to get to. If I have to travel oversees to a conference then I'd like it to not cost the earth** nor take a week out of my life and family - I want to get the most from my mortgage. different strokes, etc. Perhaps do a breezo Austrailia wide when you get back, see what the attendance to it is like? b ** Actually I'd rather not go to a conference then but visit relatives in Finland or haggis shooting in Scotland. Perhaps the Czech Republic even. Anywhere but the USA, really. Going all that way just to hear someone prattle on about technology? yawn... Sydney's closer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Hahaha. Nicer I meant making it work. Cause right now Its not working at all. What I am scared of is that we have coded our application in such a way that the debugger won't be able to work it out. Its simular to spectra. OLD SCHOOL. We already bought the licence oddly enough the company bought it for us even though we are movin to .NET.go figure. Anyway I will drop them an email and hopefully get an answer this time. J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Chris, I think you're looking at the wrong screen, mate. Are you expecting that to look like those in figures 2.1 and 5.1 in the User Guide? They are what it seems you're expecting, showing creation of an Eclipse debug configuration. The steps to get to that screen is in section 5 of the manual. You say you are configuring as per the manual. What you see is from using WindowPreferences, which is discussed only in section 7 on setting up the license. Does this help you get sorted? /charlie http://www.carehart.org/blog/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Velevitch Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 12:10 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger I've just downloaded and installed FusionDebug, but I can't config it as the configuration dialog as per the manual is missing. Has anyone seen this before? Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Handling Asunch gateway calls between sites
This is a new and interesting area for me I'm starting to work with SMS gateways and i've already got it going with a XML http call to a SMS gateway, but i want to build an interactive app using the built in SMS gateway. Does anyone know if it's possible to have a gateway set up and able to receive calls (and return responses) from other sites? Like for example if i have the gateway set up on one of my domains, and want to have another of my sites on a separate domain using the gateway I've set up via the Asynch gateway. If so, how is it done?If it's in the docs, I must have skipped over it not understanding it because I dont think i have seen where it says you can (or can't) do this. -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger
Yes, it does, thanks. On 10/11/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, I think you're looking at the wrong screen, mate. Are you expecting that to look like those in figures 2.1 and 5.1 in the User Guide? They are what it seems you're expecting, showing creation of an Eclipse debug configuration. The steps to get to that screen is in section 5 of the manual. You say you are configuring as per the manual. What you see is from using WindowPreferences, which is discussed only in section 7 on setting up the license. Does this help you get sorted? /charlie http://www.carehart.org/blog/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Velevitch Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 12:10 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: cfdebugger I've just downloaded and installed FusionDebug, but I can't config it as the configuration dialog as per the manual is missing. Has anyone seen this before? Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
FAAARK you guys complain more and more these days. 1) Daemon run the conference for a specific reason as same as they do in terms of fullasagoog.com simply because they promote thought around the various elements required in order to develop on some of the Macromedia/Adobe product range. 2) Logistics for this setup are quite large, and anyone who's planned a conference will tell you that even finding a venue is somewhat hard and not to mention other components that play a role. I've seen these guys in action first hand and while on the surface it looks easy, its not realy and it takes a lot out of them - keeping in mind they run quite a successful yet busy business at the same time. So let's not forget this is a labour of love and despite the ticket price, the profit margins for this wouldn't be as high as most think, and knowing Geoff and co most if not all profits would end up back into the budget for next year and so on. 3) I prefer Daemon to run it instead of Adobe, as we will end up with a commercially driven conference instead of a raw-nerd fest. Its keeping the bastards honest so to speak but ensures that there is a nice balance to the content in question. It also provides an outlet for the average coldfusion/flex/flash punter to expand his/her mind into other areas such as Microsoft or Other. So its not all about brand shovelling. 4) Overall, I'm sure we could gather up some sponsorship here in Queensland to provide a basic foundation for this event but overall why? I could probably twist a few arms such as TQ and QR to sponsor it of some nature it it were up here but in reality and i don't see the payoff. This is an event in which it promotes thought about the tools we use, its not about selling them and so its a hard upsell to the current sponsors as is. Thats my thoughts anyway Besides Sydney is more of a central location all things considered. On 10/11/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: I have never been because it's in Sydney, but I am going to Max. If I have to travel to a conference I want to get the most from my money. PS: I have never been to Max because it isn't cheap or easy to get to.If I have to travel oversees to a conference then I'd like it to notcost the earth** nor take a week out of my life and family - I want to get the most from my mortgage.different strokes, etc. Perhaps do a breezo Austrailia wide when youget back, see what the attendance to it is like?b** Actually I'd rather not go to a conference then but visit relatives in Finland or haggis shooting in Scotland. Perhaps the Czech Republiceven. Anywhere but the USA, really. Going all that way just to hearsomeone prattle on about technology? yawn... Sydney's closerhttp://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
I hope to attend. Pretty sure I can save up enough by then. :)~Seona.On 12/10/06, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'll be there.. for sure.Not missing it this year, no way. MarkOn 10/12/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, Scott, are you going? and (to all) who else, come hell or high water? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
Geoff, All your points are perfectly valid. The cost comes in to question where you wish to send multiple people. If I want to send 3 people to WebDu then I have no hope of getting that approved with flights / accommodation. It adds up and the business will question why they all need to go. If it was in Melbourne I would have no issue. There are four people here who do CF stuff and none of them have ever been. It is a financial and believe it or not it's easier to get approved 1 trip to Max than 4 trips to WebDu. Having the entire IT section out interstate doesn't help the problem. But your point is valid that I could have gone to WebDU instead of Max. What apart from moving the venue to Melbourne do we need to do to encourage you to make the journey? Nothing, I know I want to make the journey, but I won't this year because I'm going to Max, I may however send one of the other team members. (If they are nice to me :p) Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Bowers Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 10:08 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney Dale, We always appreciate feedback on webDU and ways we might improve the event. However, I'm not sure I understand your suggestions. Dale Fraser wrote: I think you are all missing my point, you say it's too small to move, I say it's small because it doesn't move. The 90% of Melbourne people that don't go because it's in Sydney will never get a chance to be impressed by it and make the effort to fly to Brisbane the next year. With the same logic, 90% of Sydney people won't go because its in Melbourne. Are you saying that people don't travel to the conference because the distance makes it too expensive? The cost of flights, accommodation and conference pass totals at less than many conferences entry price alone. We do this in an effort to make the conference accessible to as many people as possible. Add into this the new Flex interested parties, and you might get more bums on seats than you think. Based on recent VIC UG meetings, most people were in attendance when Flex was on the agenda. webDU was one of the first conferences world wide to run a dedicated Flex track. We'll be doing the same again this year coming. We're hoping Flex has a national appeal. PS: I have never been because it's in Sydney, but I am going to Max. If I have to travel to a conference I want to get the most from my money. You suggest it's a financial issue. And yet you could send your entire team to webDU for less than flying a single person to MAX. It's worth noting that webDU ticket pricing has not increased over the last 4 years. It still costs less to attend webDU than a 2-Day beginners course in Flash. It's great to go to MAX if you have the chance. I'm just not sure I understand your supposition that MAX is somehow better value for money because webDU is in Sydney and not in Melbourne. Clearly MAX is a very different conference to webDU, but i think its highly unlikely you mean that travel cost is a strong argument in favour of attending MAX. What apart from moving the venue to Melbourne do we need to do to encourage you to make the journey? Best regards, -- geoff Conference Manager http://www.webdu.com.au/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
Dale, I will also agree with you, I have never been to webDU for the reason that I would personally have to find the money for the accommodation and flight. Everyone else, And I will also say that why is MS successful, road shows. I realise that this is done of the backs of peoples kindness, but lets look at the bigger picture. There are more people who can't make it than those that do, and to have it travel as Dale said opens up more awareness. Coldfusion has a serious problem, and that is awarness and having to compete with OpenSource or free alternatives, but how many bigger businesses might attend if there was more exposure in that state? Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
Some support finally. Both Melbourne people for the record. Perhaps it's time to approach Adobe with the We want to take this show on the road and get some money. I really believe that both a Melboure and Brisbane event would be worthwhile even if it's only once every 4 years. Ie: Sydney Melbourne Sydney Brisbane Not sure but perhaps WA needs to be in the mix, seem to get more QLD comments than WA. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:21 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney Dale, I will also agree with you, I have never been to webDU for the reason that I would personally have to find the money for the accommodation and flight. Everyone else, And I will also say that why is MS successful, road shows. I realise that this is done of the backs of peoples kindness, but lets look at the bigger picture. There are more people who can't make it than those that do, and to have it travel as Dale said opens up more awareness. Coldfusion has a serious problem, and that is awarness and having to compete with OpenSource or free alternatives, but how many bigger businesses might attend if there was more exposure in that state? Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] More WebDU
When do the prices for this go up? I need to tell my boss, Can I have $x to go to a conference, please?. The upcoming dates page mentions that early bird specials are now available, but there's no registration page? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
Dale, I'll seriously bring this up at the next QLDCFUG, to see what the gut feeling is... and get back to you. Be warned tho, there's lots of Bris people who do the travel. and some (like me) are self-funded to do so. but I will ask. Please remember that (temp) moving is a huge ask. Ask Robin Hilliard moving Tim Buntel around from city to city - and that was just one person, not a whole event. It's just not an easy thing to pull off. Dale, if it were held in Bris, would you come + send others? Please forgive me for saying so, but I wouldn't fly from Bris to Melb for it. Just a bit too far (yeah I know, those that fly the Tasman and over the Nullabore every year) ... just a thought. b On 10/12/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some support finally. Both Melbourne people for the record. Perhaps it's time to approach Adobe with the We want to take this show on the road and get some money. I really believe that both a Melboure and Brisbane event would be worthwhile even if it's only once every 4 years. Ie: Sydney Melbourne Sydney Brisbane Not sure but perhaps WA needs to be in the mix, seem to get more QLD comments than WA. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:21 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney Dale, I will also agree with you, I have never been to webDU for the reason that I would personally have to find the money for the accommodation and flight. Everyone else, And I will also say that why is MS successful, road shows. I realise that this is done of the backs of peoples kindness, but lets look at the bigger picture. There are more people who can't make it than those that do, and to have it travel as Dale said opens up more awareness. Coldfusion has a serious problem, and that is awarness and having to compete with OpenSource or free alternatives, but how many bigger businesses might attend if there was more exposure in that state? Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] More WebDU
I assume they wouldn't release pricing before they release a speaker list... Regards, Bjorn Schultheiss -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haikal Saadh Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:55 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] More WebDU When do the prices for this go up? I need to tell my boss, Can I have $x to go to a conference, please?. The upcoming dates page mentions that early bird specials are now available, but there's no registration page? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
Barry, I'd be interested in the response, might try the same question at the next Vic group. I would probably go to Brisbane if it was in Sydney every two years and Melbourne every 4. I would probably try to do Sydney (No one) Melbourne (Entire Team) Sydney (No one) Brisbane(1 person) That's based on having someone go every two years, but I guess if it's as good as it sounds (And again I've never been) then perhaps I'd send at least one person every year. Once they have all been to Melbourne one they might be asking every year. No one has ever asked me if they could go as they have never seen it and thus don't really know. Which is a good indication of its appeal to Melbournites. That's not a single request (that I remember) in the 5 years I've been managing teams of CF developers. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:55 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney Dale, I'll seriously bring this up at the next QLDCFUG, to see what the gut feeling is... and get back to you. Be warned tho, there's lots of Bris people who do the travel. and some (like me) are self-funded to do so. but I will ask. Please remember that (temp) moving is a huge ask. Ask Robin Hilliard moving Tim Buntel around from city to city - and that was just one person, not a whole event. It's just not an easy thing to pull off. Dale, if it were held in Bris, would you come + send others? Please forgive me for saying so, but I wouldn't fly from Bris to Melb for it. Just a bit too far (yeah I know, those that fly the Tasman and over the Nullabore every year) ... just a thought. b On 10/12/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some support finally. Both Melbourne people for the record. Perhaps it's time to approach Adobe with the We want to take this show on the road and get some money. I really believe that both a Melboure and Brisbane event would be worthwhile even if it's only once every 4 years. Ie: Sydney Melbourne Sydney Brisbane Not sure but perhaps WA needs to be in the mix, seem to get more QLD comments than WA. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:21 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney Dale, I will also agree with you, I have never been to webDU for the reason that I would personally have to find the money for the accommodation and flight. Everyone else, And I will also say that why is MS successful, road shows. I realise that this is done of the backs of peoples kindness, but lets look at the bigger picture. There are more people who can't make it than those that do, and to have it travel as Dale said opens up more awareness. Coldfusion has a serious problem, and that is awarness and having to compete with OpenSource or free alternatives, but how many bigger businesses might attend if there was more exposure in that state? Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
I'll be going this year, and will be self funded as well, flying up from melbourne. If you're clever about your flights and accommodation it doesn't really cost too much extra, and considering the quality the event always manages I see the whole price as a bargain. I walk away from these conferences every time having had a ball, learnt a lot and made good friends and business contacts. I'm not a huge fan of sydney to be honest but it's probably more central to the cf community as a whole, and when all is said and done, we wouldn't have an aussie convention at all - let alone one this good - if Geoff and his team weren't doing it (among the many other great things they've done for the community and my career!), so I think it perfectly fair for them to put it on in their home city.Microsofts "Road shows" may seem more successful, but the fact is Daemon, while they obviously get publicity etc out of the conference, are not flogging a particular product or service, they're promoting the community. If they had a bottomless marketing budget and the conference was centered on selling their products then I'd agree that I wouldn't go to it unless it was local. But webdu is a totally different kind of event, one I'd do my best to attend even if it did cost more than it does.TobyOn 12/10/2006, at 11:55 AM, Barry Beattie wrote:Dale, I'll seriously bring this up at the next QLDCFUG, to see whatthe gut feeling is... and get back to you.Be warned tho, there's lots of Bris people who do the travel. and some(like me) are self-funded to do so. but I will ask.Please remember that (temp) moving is a huge ask. Ask Robin Hilliardmoving Tim Buntel around from city to city - and that was just oneperson, not a whole event. It's just not an easy thing to pull off.Dale, if it were held in Bris, would you come + send others? Pleaseforgive me for saying so, but I wouldn't fly from Bris to Melb for it.Just a bit too far (yeah I know, those that fly the Tasman and overthe Nullabore every year) ...just a thought.bOn 10/12/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some support finally.Both Melbourne people for the record. Perhaps it's time to approach Adobewith the "We want to take this show on the road" and get some money.I really believe that both a Melboure and Brisbane event would be worthwhileeven if it's only once every 4 years. Ie:SydneyMelbourneSydneyBrisbaneNot sure but perhaps WA needs to be in the mix, seem to get more QLDcomments than WA.RegardsDale Fraserhttp://dale.fraser.id.au-Original Message-From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On BehalfOf Andrew ScottSent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:21 AMTo: cfaussie@googlegroups.comSubject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton SydneyDale,I will also agree with you, I have never been to webDU for the reason that Iwould personally have to find the money for the accommodation and flight.Everyone else,And I will also say that why is MS successful, road shows.I realise that this is done of the backs of peoples kindness, but lets lookat the bigger picture. There are more people who can't make it than thosethat do, and to have it travel as Dale said opens up more awareness.Coldfusion has a serious problem, and that is awarness and having to competewith OpenSource or free alternatives, but how many bigger businesses mightattend if there was more exposure in that state?Senior Coldfusion DeveloperAegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.auPhone: +613 8676 4223Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
Ok, As a summary, I blogged my wish for MxDU 2007. Hopefully as many people as can will support it, it's very important that we keep this event going and building. http://dale.fraser.id.au/blog/ Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:06 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney Barry, I'd be interested in the response, might try the same question at the next Vic group. I would probably go to Brisbane if it was in Sydney every two years and Melbourne every 4. I would probably try to do Sydney (No one) Melbourne (Entire Team) Sydney (No one) Brisbane(1 person) That's based on having someone go every two years, but I guess if it's as good as it sounds (And again I've never been) then perhaps I'd send at least one person every year. Once they have all been to Melbourne one they might be asking every year. No one has ever asked me if they could go as they have never seen it and thus don't really know. Which is a good indication of its appeal to Melbournites. That's not a single request (that I remember) in the 5 years I've been managing teams of CF developers. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:55 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney Dale, I'll seriously bring this up at the next QLDCFUG, to see what the gut feeling is... and get back to you. Be warned tho, there's lots of Bris people who do the travel. and some (like me) are self-funded to do so. but I will ask. Please remember that (temp) moving is a huge ask. Ask Robin Hilliard moving Tim Buntel around from city to city - and that was just one person, not a whole event. It's just not an easy thing to pull off. Dale, if it were held in Bris, would you come + send others? Please forgive me for saying so, but I wouldn't fly from Bris to Melb for it. Just a bit too far (yeah I know, those that fly the Tasman and over the Nullabore every year) ... just a thought. b On 10/12/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some support finally. Both Melbourne people for the record. Perhaps it's time to approach Adobe with the We want to take this show on the road and get some money. I really believe that both a Melboure and Brisbane event would be worthwhile even if it's only once every 4 years. Ie: Sydney Melbourne Sydney Brisbane Not sure but perhaps WA needs to be in the mix, seem to get more QLD comments than WA. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:21 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney Dale, I will also agree with you, I have never been to webDU for the reason that I would personally have to find the money for the accommodation and flight. Everyone else, And I will also say that why is MS successful, road shows. I realise that this is done of the backs of peoples kindness, but lets look at the bigger picture. There are more people who can't make it than those that do, and to have it travel as Dale said opens up more awareness. Coldfusion has a serious problem, and that is awarness and having to compete with OpenSource or free alternatives, but how many bigger businesses might attend if there was more exposure in that state? Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Image Manipulation
Title: Message What are ppl using to generation images on the fly? I have an old app using the batik api to create images from SVG content using the org.apache.batik.apps.rasterizer.SVGConverter class. What are ppl currently using and what are the pros and cons with each approach? tia Rod --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Image Manipulation
Title: Message Alagad http://www.alagad.com/index.cfm/name-aic Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rod Higgins Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:56 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Image Manipulation What are ppl using to generation images on the fly? I have an old app using the batik api to create images from SVG content using the org.apache.batik.apps.rasterizer.SVGConverter class. What are ppl currently using and what are the pros and cons with each approach? tia Rod --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Handling Asunch gateway calls between sites
Hi Mike I could be way wrong with this - I've yet to fall into a job where I can use funky stuff like this, so I've only got my interest in it to go on. you might want to check out the JMS gateways - Java Messaging Service. it feels like the old MSMQ stuff. In ColdFusion, JMS can act as a consumer (listener) or producer (sender). http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=1649.htm It looks like it's feasable to set up a server to do both, thereby enabeling 2-way async communication between machines. what I'm getting (hoping) at is that one machine has the connection to your SMS service provider. your other servers send a JMS message to the main one to fire off their messages (like a proxy). the trick is alerting the other machines that the main one has done it's job (or re-routes the replies from the SMS service). you have to keep in mind that they are all asyncronous so no sending and waiting for a response stuff. if I'm way wrong, I'll be happy to be corrected. if someone else has done this and has blogged their experiances (eg a how to), please speak up. IMHO, it's cool stuff...(if you can justify using it) just 2c, nothing more b On 10/12/06, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a new and interesting area for me I'm starting to work with SMS gateways and i've already got it going with a XML http call to a SMS gateway, but i want to build an interactive app using the built in SMS gateway. Does anyone know if it's possible to have a gateway set up and able to receive calls (and return responses) from other sites? Like for example if i have the gateway set up on one of my domains, and want to have another of my sites on a separate domain using the gateway I've set up via the Asynch gateway. If so, how is it done?If it's in the docs, I must have skipped over it not understanding it because I dont think i have seen where it says you can (or can't) do this. -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
I live in Sydney, the CF capital of Oz Oooo! You Stirrer! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
Geoff the DON! The godfather of CF.. no criticisms here, only discussion. Please don daemon, take me, let my family LIVE! Regards, Bjorn Schultheiss From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott BarnesSent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 1:37 PMTo: cfaussie@googlegroups.comSubject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney I want to nominate Geoff as Father of the year as he's my CF-WebDU-Sugar Daddy :) On 10/12/06, Rod Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a price comparsion have a look at the JavaOne 2006 prices ... in USD. http://java.sun.com/javaone/sf/registration.jsp I think Geoff at Daemon does a wonderful job promoting CF and related technologies. WebDU is an excellent concept and should continue in whatever city Geoff and the Daemonites decide on. It's their conference and I hope for their sake they do make a profit on the event.If a company from Melbourne put on a similiar conference I would hope they too can turn a profit. In the end we all benefit from the increased CF exposure. I agree with Dale in that an Adobe roadshow would help promote CF but that would be a completely different type of event to WebDU. Moving WebDU is too me a really bad idea ... I live in Sydney, the CF capital of Oz On 10/12/06, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is the core of the issue.WebDU is not run by a major vendor is is not aimed at selling you more product.If that were the case, then yes, it should move around and semiregularly be conveniently close to you.If it were run by Adobe, its content would undoubtably be different (asI've heard the content at Max is different from WebDU), and we would be justified in expecting it to come to us occasionally.But it isn't being run by Adobe, and when you go there, you aren'thaving product shoved down your throat, which makes it a more valuableevent for you to attend, so any extra effort you have to make to get there is justified.It might be more convenient for you if it was held in the meeting roomjust down the hall from your office, but in the bigger picture, it justdoesn't make sense.Can I also say that, having been to a big conference that was just down the road from my office, there is a lot to be said for gettingphysically away from your office, and even your home for these events.It forces you to have a much higher level of immersion in the wholeexperience, and makes it harder for people back in the office to call you back for trivial things that could have waited anyway, just becauseyou were just down the road.Its so much easier to be insulated from trivial problems if you're"interstate at a conference" than "just down the road today and tomorrow and able to be back in the office with 5 minutes notice".Also I've said this before, but I get as much from a WebDU outside ofthe session, than I do from in the sessions themselves. This includes the socialising with the big names in the industry, getting in theirears, becoming familiar with them, and all these things. If I was at aconference in Brisbane, the pressure would be there to be home at anormal time after the last session, and all that interaction would belost. I really enjoy staying up with the people at the conference (whoshall remain nameless) until 3am, and I really do get a benefit fromdoing that that makes my professional life easier. I just couldn't see that happening if I was home.Its also a bit of a commitment thing. The Brisbane people I see atWebDU/MXDUs are clearly commited to their career path. They've eitherput the effort into convincing an employer to pick up the expense (which is usually not the easiest thing), or they've covered theexpense themselves (and people, it should be tax deductible. see youraccountant). Its great to see people that committed, and they alwayscome out of it glad they've spent (invested) that money in their own careers.And how much are they really talking about? $200 tops for airfares, andabout the same for accomodation? You should be able to get the airfarescheaper if you don't leave it to the last minute, and the accomodation costs can come way down if you share with someone, or do something elseto split the costs. and then you get some of it back from your tax.Thats way less than you'll spend on a single day of training, and Iguarantee that you'll get that much benefit just from being in andaround the venue of the event (ie I'm not counting the sessioncontents).If some training to advance your own career isn't worth spending thatmuch money on, then you aren't taking your own career seriously.Darren Tracey(sorry about the rant)http://www.mossyblog.com
[cfaussie] Re: Image Manipulation
I tend to roll my own with Java :D So I can feel 733+ Mark On 10/12/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alagad http://www.alagad.com/index.cfm/name-aic Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Higgins Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:56 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Image Manipulation What are ppl using to generation images on the fly? I have an old app using the batik api to create images from SVG content using the org.apache.batik.apps.rasterizer.SVGConverter class. What are ppl currently using and what are the pros and cons with each approach? tia Rod -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
The WebDU was great last year. It looked pretty damn successful. If you keepbagging the organisermaybe he'll just give up and not put any events on at all.. As someone who grew up in WA inthe most isolated city in the world (and the most neglected in Australiaas far asthe big events go), I cannot see what the big fuss is about. Because it doesn't seem obvious I will say this: Sydney is in the middle of the east coast, one can drive there from Melbourne or Brisbane overnight on perhaps one tank of fuel (depending on what car you have).Itisonly 45 minutes by plane from Melbourne and perhaps an hour and a bitfrom Brisbane. You can set yourself up at one of the many backpackers down the road if accomodation costsare an issue (just hold on to your valuables and be sure to bathe in Dettol every morning). However, the Hilton has been refurbished recently and looks very nice. If you're still concerned about costs, you can carpool it here to Sydney and back(around $160 in fuel = $40 each?)and live in my garage. There's a king size double being stored there, probably good for up to four programmers. You might have to avoid inhaling the fumes from all the semi-opened cans of paint and double-stroke lying around in there. And definately no smoking indoors. (No, this is not really available, I am just kidding) The only realcost is your time, as someone else said, if you're spending it elsewhere you're probably not thatserious about your career. Joel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
You guys want to grow up. Geoff doesnt need defending, he has sensible enough to make his own reasonable replies. I never bagged him or the event, I am just asking a question, if the answer is no thats fine, but who does it hurt to ask. This is a discussion. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel Cass Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:57 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney The WebDU was great last year. It looked pretty damn successful. If you keepbagging the organisermaybe he'll just give up and not put any events on at all.. As someone who grew up in WA inthe most isolated city in the world (and the most neglected in Australiaas far asthe big events go), I cannot see what the big fuss is about. Because it doesn't seem obvious I will say this: Sydney is in the middle of the east coast, one can drive there from Melbourne or Brisbane overnight on perhaps one tank of fuel (depending on what car you have).Itisonly 45 minutes by plane from Melbourne and perhaps an hour and a bitfrom Brisbane. You can set yourself up at one of the many backpackers down the road if accomodation costsare an issue (just hold on to your valuables and be sure to bathe in Dettol every morning). However, the Hilton has been refurbished recently and looks very nice. If you're still concerned about costs, you can carpool it here to Sydney and back(around $160 in fuel = $40 each?)and live in my garage. There's a king size double being stored there, probably good for up to four programmers. You might have to avoid inhaling the fumes from all the semi-opened cans of paint and double-stroke lying around in there. And definately no smoking indoors. (No, this is not really available, I am just kidding) The only realcost is your time, as someone else said, if you're spending it elsewhere you're probably not thatserious about your career. Joel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: FusionDebugger not breaking
Chris,
Are you putting the breakpoint on an actual CF line?
And this is a side note I received
Two of the most important options in FusionDebug are Webserver Folder, and
Eclipse folder structure mirrors webserver. This article discusses how to
configure these options in detail.
FusionDebug uses the information in the Configuration Dialog (accessible
from the Run - Debug menu) to accurately set breakpoints. If the
information in this dialog is not configured correctly, FusionDebug may
report that a breakpoint has been set, but it never fires: the associated
page always runs to completion.
Solution:
In most cases, this problem can be solved by correctly configuring the
Webserver Folder and Eclipse folder structure options in FusionDebug. Once
these options are correctly configured, the configuration usually doesn't
need to be subsequently changed.
FusionDebug needs to know exactly where on your ColdFusion server the files
are located, and how folders are structured. It uses these options, together
with your Eclipse folder structure, to accurately set breakpoints and select
the correct files when breakpoints fire.
Transport dt_socket failed to initialize
This can be caused by one of two things. You can check this by starting
ColdFusion from the DOS command line.
The port configured in the jvm.config (default: 8000) is already in use.
Please try a different port. If this does not help, it could also be that
multiple servers are trying to start at once; please see this support FAQ:
http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fusiondebug/support.html#config2
dt_socket.dll cannot be found. FusionDebug needs to connect to a debug
transport called dt_socket. Could you please confirm for me that
dt_transport.dll is in the folder C:/CFusionMX7/runtime/jre/bin
If it is then the C:/CFusionMX7/runtime/jre/bin folder is not being picked
up by your windows path. You could solve this in one of two ways:
1. Add C:/CFusionMX7/runtime/jre/bin to your windows PATH variable
2. Copy dt_socket.dll to a folder in your windows PATH (e.g. C:\Windows)
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-Original Message-
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Chris Velevitch
Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 1:56 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] FusionDebugger not breaking
I'm trying to work out why breakpoints are not firing for my Flash
Remoting application.
Here's my setup:
Win XP Sp1
Eclipse 3.1.1
CF 7.0.1 Enterprise edition (multiserver edition with only one
instance)
the built in webserver
my webroot is virtually mapped (via jrun-web.xml):-
virtual-mapping
resource-path/*/resource-path
system-pathC:/projects/system-path
/virtual-mapping)
my Eclipse folder structure is in the webserver (see the virtual
mapping)
jvm.config is:-
java.args=-Xmx512M -server -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false
-XX:MaxPermSize=128m -DJINTEGRA_NATIVE_MODE -DJINTEGRA_PREFETCH_ENUMS
-Dcoldfusion.rootDir={application.home}/ -Djava.compiler=NONE
-Xnoagent -Xdebug
-Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,server=y,suspend=n,address=8001
(see the screen dump for the way I have it configured)
Chris
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[cfaussie] Re: Image Manipulation
Hi Rod, I use ImageCR http://efflare.com/products/cfx_imagecr/ I gave alagad a try but imageCR is about 8 times faster.. Though I do like alagad Being written in java.. (and is free) Im gagging to see what adobe do with image manilpulation functionality in CF8.. Cheers, Adam From: Rod Higgins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:56 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Image Manipulation What are ppl using to generation images on the fly? I have an old app using the batik api to create images from SVG content using the org.apache.batik.apps.rasterizer.SVGConverter class. What are ppl currently using and what are the pros and cons with each approach? tia Rod --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Image Manipulation
Im almost sure Adobe will end up using some of the common components from FOP and Batik aka the XMLGraphics components for CF 8 imaging. Looking at Alagad I'm stunned to see a licensing cost of $75 USD per server for some wrappers around the java Graphics2D api ... I must be in the wrong business. http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/commons/ Mark do you have some generic imaging code you want to share or colaborate on? Maybe a java process to generate images from html content via an open source html renderer? How far away is CF8 ... ? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Chapman Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 2:16 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Image Manipulation Hi Rod, I use ImageCR http://efflare.com/products/cfx_imagecr/ I gave alagad a try but imageCR is about 8 times faster.. Though I do like alagad Being written in java.. (and is free) Im gagging to see what adobe do with image manilpulation functionality in CF8.. Cheers, Adam From: Rod Higgins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:56 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Image Manipulation What are ppl using to generation images on the fly? I have an old app using the batik api to create images from SVG content using the org.apache.batik.apps.rasterizer.SVGConverter class. What are ppl currently using and what are the pros and cons with each approach? tia Rod --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
Then the answer to your question in No. Moving the event appears to have more downsides than upsides. If it were down to a straight vote (which it isn't) then the overwhelming majority are very happy with it being in Sydney. Darren who's very happy with it and won't bite on that viscious thing about Sydney being a CF capital! ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
Then the answer to your question in No. Moving the event appears to have more downsides than upsides. If it were down to a straight vote (which it isn't) then the overwhelming majority are very happy with it being in Sydney. Darren who's very happy with it and won't bite on that viscious thing about Sydney being a CF capital! ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Image Manipulation
Yeah no, not image resizing, manipulating as such butcreating completely new images from text, shapes, background colours etc. I was thinking ofcreating a component that converted html content into an image which would be nice and simple to use and I might find other uses for it in the future thus the term generic. I'm currently converting svg into jpg's using batik but wanted something more multi purpose, more 'generic'. A direct html to image convertor using java is what I would like to get going wrapped up in a simple easy to use cfc.The hard part is finding a java html renderer that can do more then java's basicHTML. Jazilla is buggy, I can't find the source code / api documentationfor HotJava, etc. but I'm still looking. Have you done something similiar before? On 10/12/06, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In all honestly, I'm quite comfortable with Java that I can buildpretty much anything I need out of it... it's 'Generic' for me as it is.Here are some examples of doing resizing of jpegs -http://www.compoundtheory.com/?action="">Although nowadays I would probably do this via javax.imageio(http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/javax/imageio/package-summary.html)rather than go directly to the jpeg encoder / decoder. I suppose its a question of what you need?I'm sure there are some Javalibs out there that already do what youmay want, no?MarkOn 10/12/06, Rod Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im almost sure Adobe will end up using some of the common components from FOP and Batik aka the XMLGraphics components for CF 8 imaging. Looking at Alagad I'm stunned to see a licensing cost of $75 USD per server for some wrappers around the java Graphics2D api ... I must be in the wrong business. http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/commons/ Mark do you have some generic imaging code you want to share or colaborate on? Maybe a java process to generate images from html content via an open source html renderer? How far away is CF8 ... ?--E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: FusionDebugger not breaking
Chris, beside what Andrew has offered, there's a specific FAQ on the
question you raised:
http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fusiondebug/support-breakpointsDontFire.html
http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fusiondebug/support.html#breakpoints4
I also point out some tips that are note listed there, which may explain
things
http://www.carehart.org/presentations/Step%20through%20your%20CFML%20code%20
with%20FusionDebug.ppt
I'll say again, also, that rather than raise the question here, you also
have the available [EMAIL PROTECTED] address, though I realize that
with the time difference you may prefer to start with your Aussie
colleagues.
/charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/
-Original Message-
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Chris Velevitch
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:56 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] FusionDebugger not breaking
I'm trying to work out why breakpoints are not firing for my Flash Remoting
application.
Here's my setup:
Win XP Sp1
Eclipse 3.1.1
CF 7.0.1 Enterprise edition (multiserver edition with only one
instance)
the built in webserver
my webroot is virtually mapped (via jrun-web.xml):-
virtual-mapping
resource-path/*/resource-path
system-pathC:/projects/system-path
/virtual-mapping)
my Eclipse folder structure is in the webserver (see the virtual
mapping)
jvm.config is:-
java.args=-Xmx512M -server -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false
-XX:MaxPermSize=128m -DJINTEGRA_NATIVE_MODE -DJINTEGRA_PREFETCH_ENUMS
-Dcoldfusion.rootDir={application.home}/ -Djava.compiler=NONE -Xnoagent
-Xdebug
-Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,server=y,suspend=n,address=8001
(see the screen dump for the way I have it configured)
Chris
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Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group
m: 0415 469 095
www.flashdev.org.au
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