[cfaussie] Re: OT: webDU 2007 - are you counting it down?
Can't make it this year, flat chat with no fun - probably good for my health however - but have plugged it pretty much. In fact am still paying for last year (shouted a bloke). But enjoy it - the best conference Australia has for the technologies we use. While you all play - we will hold our various forts! PT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] ColdFusion server license - best place to buy
We are all dissapointed with Vista pricing... With any luck they won't upgrade to Vista just yet... Where would be the best place (Australia) to purchase, at this stage ColdFusion Standard version 7.02x, (including update ticket 'cos CF8 is coming). Also looking at Microsoft SQL Server 2005 (Standard) CALS - about 5 at this stage. TIA! It is all happening much faster than I expected so want to ensure licenses are covered properly. -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger Live: Desktop General --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: webDU 2007 - are you counting it down?
On Mar 14, 11:55 am, "Mark Mandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Getting up at 8am to help run the Components BOF the morning after the > Banquet... Ahh yeah, good luck with that :D Turning up will be half the battle for all of us, hah... On Mar 14, 12:17 pm, "Scott Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't have Vista installed, its buggy and BeOS rules! :) (I kid, > it's proudly on display in my SideBar Gadgets and also in the big > screen tv in Microsoft HQ lunchroom... ) Nice one. Glad to hear someone is using it, and to think I've even infected a PC at Microsoft HQ, mwhahaha... :P > I'm keen to get drunk at WebDU - no offence, but damn I've been > studying technology for the past 2 months straight - i need > beer-o-break. So *holds up AMEX* come see me when you're done learning > about the Adobe Goodness and relay it to me in simple terms so i can > understand. I can't promise if I'll remember it afterwards :) Haha, I believe there is a session for that... Bar opens at 5:30PM! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] [sot] z-index issues - dropdown is below iframe with activeX
Hello All, I am having some serious issues with z-index and trying to get dropdown to come above an iframe with a movie embedded in it. I am using http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ I have a page that has an iframe on it and when a picture is inside the iframe the dropdown comes over the top as it is supposed to, but when I switch to a movie inside the iframe (using the embed tag, which is ActiveX) the drop down goes behind the iframe window. I have changed the z-index of the dropdown to and the iframe z-index (inline style and have tried css) but still does not work.. Has anyone else got this thing to work? and even on the html dog website everyone asks the same but no one seems to have an answer.. Thanks -- Postal: Po Box 3462 Dural, NSW 2158 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: skype:carlos-amigos?call --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: return error code to browser
The flash applet recognizes this one
I think I can live with that for now.
On 3/14/07, AJ Mercer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> The error is raised in ColdFusion and returned to the browser and trapped
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> Actually, it is a flash object that is making the call to ColdFusion . So
> I can see what is happening with live headers in firefox :-(
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> On 3/14/07, Haikal Saadh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > If you want javascript to raise an error, you'll have to
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> > alert("Oh noes");
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> > in addidtion to maybe sending a http error code. Http error code with
> > tell the browser something went wrong, and the body of the page will
> > make it look nice for the user.
> >
> > Take this further,
> > if(errorHappened){
> > redirectToErrorPage(reason)
> > }
> > is more what I would do.
> >
> > AJ Mercer wrote:
> > > I would like to return an error code to the browser that will be
> > > trapped by JavaScript.
> > >
> > > This is what I have at the moment - but doesn't seem to be doing what
> > > I am after
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> > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
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> >
> > --
> > Haikal Saadh
> > Applications Programmer
> > ICT Resources, TALSS
> > QUT Kelvin Grove
> >
> >
> > > >
> >
>
>
> --
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> You are taking up too much space.
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[cfaussie] Re: return error code to browser
The error is raised in ColdFusion and returned to the browser and trapped
Actually, it is a flash object that is making the call to ColdFusion . So I
can see what is happening with live headers in firefox :-(
On 3/14/07, Haikal Saadh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> If you want javascript to raise an error, you'll have to
>
>
>
>
> alert("Oh noes");
>
>
>
>
> in addidtion to maybe sending a http error code. Http error code with
> tell the browser something went wrong, and the body of the page will
> make it look nice for the user.
>
> Take this further,
> if(errorHappened){
> redirectToErrorPage(reason)
> }
> is more what I would do.
>
> AJ Mercer wrote:
> > I would like to return an error code to the browser that will be
> > trapped by JavaScript.
> >
> > This is what I have at the moment - but doesn't seem to be doing what
> > I am after
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >
> > >
>
> --
> Haikal Saadh
> Applications Programmer
> ICT Resources, TALSS
> QUT Kelvin Grove
>
>
> >
>
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[cfaussie] Re: OT: webDU 2007 - are you counting it down?
You're implying that i'm dragging... inverse that thought ;) ... This is going to be my 2nd favourite conference of the year I must say... Sorry, VisitMix.com in Vegas wins simply because the PussyCat Dolls are showing up... (*wipes a tear, godbless Microsoft*). On 3/14/07, Mark Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm keen to get drunk at WebDU - no offence, but damn I've been > > studying technology for the past 2 months straight - i need > > beer-o-break. So *holds up AMEX* come see me when you're done learning > > about the Adobe Goodness and relay it to me in simple terms so i can > > understand. I can't promise if I'll remember it afterwards :) > > Good to hear Scott! You should drag Fin along too. > > -- > Mark Stanton > Gruden Pty Ltd > http://www.gruden.com > > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: webDU 2007 - are you counting it down?
> I'm keen to get drunk at WebDU - no offence, but damn I've been > studying technology for the past 2 months straight - i need > beer-o-break. So *holds up AMEX* come see me when you're done learning > about the Adobe Goodness and relay it to me in simple terms so i can > understand. I can't promise if I'll remember it afterwards :) Good to hear Scott! You should drag Fin along too. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: return error code to browser
If you want javascript to raise an error, you'll have to
alert("Oh noes");
in addidtion to maybe sending a http error code. Http error code with
tell the browser something went wrong, and the body of the page will
make it look nice for the user.
Take this further,
if(errorHappened){
redirectToErrorPage(reason)
}
is more what I would do.
AJ Mercer wrote:
> I would like to return an error code to the browser that will be
> trapped by JavaScript.
>
> This is what I have at the moment - but doesn't seem to be doing what
> I am after
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> >
--
Haikal Saadh
Applications Programmer
ICT Resources, TALSS
QUT Kelvin Grove
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[cfaussie] Re: return error code to browser
In a dim memory, i have a feeling that cfabort stops CF from doing anything rational... see if you can code it a little more like ... do cool stuff here then grab the liveheaders extension for firefox and watch your header get sent back to the browser... L. On 3/14/07, AJ Mercer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would like to return an error code to the browser that will be trapped > by JavaScript. > > This is what I have at the moment - but doesn't seem to be doing what I am > after > > > > > > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > -- Lucas http://www.thebitbucket.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] return error code to browser
I would like to return an error code to the browser that will be trapped by JavaScript. This is what I have at the moment - but doesn't seem to be doing what I am after Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: webDU 2007 - are you counting it down?
Oh yeah!! I will be part of that!! now if I could just finish my preso... On 3/14/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You warm the cockles of my heart ol son ;) > > I don't have Vista installed, its buggy and BeOS rules! :) (I kid, > it's proudly on display in my SideBar Gadgets and also in the big > screen tv in Microsoft HQ lunchroom... ) > > > I'm keen to get drunk at WebDU - no offence, but damn I've been > studying technology for the past 2 months straight - i need > beer-o-break. So *holds up AMEX* come see me when you're done learning > about the Adobe Goodness and relay it to me in simple terms so i can > understand. I can't promise if I'll remember it afterwards :) > > -- > Scott Barnes > Developer Evangelist > Microsoft > > > > On 3/14/07, Justin Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > (Yeah, this is a shameless plug...) > > > > One week from now some of us will be sitting in the workshops at webDU > > 2007, others will have to wait another ~21 hours or so before the > > conference itself begins... but until then, if you're running Vista > > you can proudly wear the webDU badge on your desktop and count down > > the remaining days until the big event kicks off! > > > > Download the webDU 2007 countdown gadget, you know you want to ;) > > > > > http://gallery.live.com/liveItemDetail.aspx?li=2ba8a925-c4e1-4ddc-a85f-1075aa48165b&l=1 > > > > What am I looking forward to the most? I'd have to say FarCry, > > Transfer, and nice shiny new Scorpio stuff... with a sprinkling of > > Flex as well. It should be a great few days. What are you all looking > > forward to? > > > > Cheers. > > -- > > Justin > > http://www.madfellas.com/blog > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblog.com > > > > -- Lucas http://www.thebitbucket.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: webDU 2007 - are you counting it down?
You warm the cockles of my heart ol son ;) I don't have Vista installed, its buggy and BeOS rules! :) (I kid, it's proudly on display in my SideBar Gadgets and also in the big screen tv in Microsoft HQ lunchroom... ) I'm keen to get drunk at WebDU - no offence, but damn I've been studying technology for the past 2 months straight - i need beer-o-break. So *holds up AMEX* come see me when you're done learning about the Adobe Goodness and relay it to me in simple terms so i can understand. I can't promise if I'll remember it afterwards :) -- Scott Barnes Developer Evangelist Microsoft On 3/14/07, Justin Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi All, > > (Yeah, this is a shameless plug...) > > One week from now some of us will be sitting in the workshops at webDU > 2007, others will have to wait another ~21 hours or so before the > conference itself begins... but until then, if you're running Vista > you can proudly wear the webDU badge on your desktop and count down > the remaining days until the big event kicks off! > > Download the webDU 2007 countdown gadget, you know you want to ;) > > http://gallery.live.com/liveItemDetail.aspx?li=2ba8a925-c4e1-4ddc-a85f-1075aa48165b&l=1 > > What am I looking forward to the most? I'd have to say FarCry, > Transfer, and nice shiny new Scorpio stuff... with a sprinkling of > Flex as well. It should be a great few days. What are you all looking > forward to? > > Cheers. > -- > Justin > http://www.madfellas.com/blog > > > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
On 3/14/07, Darren Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 13, 7:58 pm, "Scott Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think you're suffering from too much sceptism and the only valid > > reason I can think of that would potentially be irrelevant to hosting > > within Microsoft is that can't be assed moving the meetings or that > > you're comfortable with the current place (either is perfectly valid > > and aok). > > Thats two points Scott. > 1. Scepticism. I've never claimed not to be a sceptic. Is it too much, > or am I just being cautious? Its not a descision that only effects me, > so I'll always err on the side of caution. > 2. Reasons for moving. You gave two actually. As I explained before, > at this point, we couldn't be bothered moving, because there just > isn't enough reason to do it that benefits the User Group, beyond it > just being a novelty, and secondly, we are comfortable where we are. > And as you said, they are valid and OK reasons. Don't make me slap you... Yeah look, offer was made should you *need* it because of broadband issues etc. If you don't want it that's cool, offer is thee is all. *My expense reports thank you though*. Yet, to say you "can't do it" because of this Adobe vs Microsoft crap just irritates me as being ignorant ass response. > > I remember at the Flash Platform User Group you walked up and said > > "Adobe are coming here so if you need to leave let me know"... > > Seriously dude, you need to move past this Adobe vs Microsoft crap > > that you're somehow subscribing too as my metric within Microsoft is > > anything that touches a browser and pieces that support it. > > Scott, that quote has been taken grossly out of context, and you know > it. It was said as a joke, with a huge grin on my face, in relation to > other peoples attitudes, that you knew I wasn't subscribing to. Don't > start stooping to behaving like that or you'll be reinforcing the > attitudes that you are trying to change. > Microsoft is currently battling against its reputation for past > behaviours. You've got to change those behaviours, and keep them > changed, _without_exception_, before you can expect people to believe > you've really changed. Grossly? is that context to the context of the sentence? (heh) I don't have to change diddly squat. Peoples perceptions of Microsoft are varied depending on whom they are and the way the behave. I see a lot of people denouncing the Microsoft brand online, yet face to face they change their posture - which just confuses the crap out of me I must say. It's just a company, they have a stronger focus these days on "solution delivery" and less on "flog that product" as to flog the product is a short term win, it's long term wins we are after. I must confess as well, the metrics i have are like "How many developers have you spoken to in a year" answer: >500 .. congrats, here's your bonus. I make zero bonus/kudos if you *actually* buy into the products... i'm sure the sales team etc do but they have their own ways of doing that and ninja diving into a CFUG isn't one of them :) I've always called a spade a spade, if people irratate me - work be damned, i'll just poke holes in their theories simply because I can't suffer fools... It's probably the wrong attitude to have but overall at least you know where I stand on an issue instead of half-assed diplomacy ;) > Regards > Darren Tracey > > > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: REMINDER: QLD CFUG March meeting tonight
Can't remember if I RSVP's so here it is again. Blair On 3/14/07, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > just a gentle reminder that if you're coming tonight and you haven't > RSVP'd yet, please let us know somehow* ... and real soon, yes? thanx > > we're just about to organise the catering (don't want anyone missing out) > > and those people who RSVP'd last week: many thanx for being so prompt.(you > don't have to RSVP again for tonight ** ) > > cheers > the QLD.CFUG crew > > ( * email off-list, txt to the mobile, ICQ, carrier pidgeon, smoke > signals, heck at this late stage I don't care how! We've got a good > crowd coming tonight and I bet they'll be hungry! be warned...) > > ( ** you know who you are!) > > > > WOW! this looks like a big meeting for this months Queensland CFUG > > and is bound to be a "not to be missed" event. > > > > Why? Because we're all gearing up for the next version of ColdFusion: > > CF8, which is currently known (or so we're told) as "Scorpio". > > > > "but it's in beta!" you say "and none can say what's in it for fear of > > Saurons spies finding out" > > > > there's lots to find out, believe it or not, if you know where to > > look. We have our > > super-sleuth detectives hard at work, reading between the lines in > > press releases, unraveling the red herrings, leaving no unturned > > stone... er, unturned (wha-tever!) > > > > to prove the point, we've even tracked down a date it'll be released > > > http://www.numtopia.com/terry/blog/archives/2007/03/scorpio_in_august.cfm > > (and there's other reasons of the suggested date that didn't make it > > to the comments - come along and find out why) > > > > So join us this Wednesday's CFUG and discover the secrets to Dan > > Brown's unwritten mystery thriller... "The Scorpio Code" > > [any references to actual deities or prophets, living or dead, is > > purely coincidental...] > > > > > > Also this month, we'll be giving the subject of Flex and Coldfusion > > Data-typing a darn good shake with full demonstrations and seeing > > what's happening behind the scenes. What works? what's doesn't? and is > > wishful thinking? guaranteed to save you time putting a Flex front end > > to your ColdFusion server code. > > > > And, as this will be the CFUG's pre-WebDU meeting for this year, we'll > > be looking at what's on offer at WebDU, how to try and survive wanting > > to be in three WebDU sessions at the same time - and how to still get > > something out of it if the boss still refuses to let you go. > > > > > > so, if you're not already a member, sign up to the QLD CFUG usergroup > > http://groups.google.com/group/qldcfug/ > > > > and that will give us your RSVP so you can go into the prize draw (and > > ensure we do a good job on catering) - we hope to see you there > > > > > > cheers > > The QLD CFUG crew. > > > > Meeting Details: 6:30 pm - ?, Wednesday, 14th March 2007 > > If doors are locked, call 0414 328 902 for entry > > > > QANTM Auditorium > > QANTM House > > Level 9, 138 Albert St > > Brisbane City > > (Opposite the "Coffee Club") > > > > Find it on WHEREIS: > > > http://www.whereis.com/whereis/retrieveEmailMap.do?linkId=-;7243212240990709884 > > > > Find it on Google Maps: > > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=138+Albert+St,+City+QLD+4000,+Australia&ie=UTF8&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=28.168051,68.90625&z=17&om=1&iwloc=addr > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: webDU 2007 - are you counting it down?
Getting up at 8am to help run the Components BOF the morning after the Banquet... I'm really looking forward to that ;oD Uhh.. that wasn't sarcastic, I promise :D Mark On 3/14/07, Justin Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > (Yeah, this is a shameless plug...) > > One week from now some of us will be sitting in the workshops at webDU > 2007, others will have to wait another ~21 hours or so before the > conference itself begins... but until then, if you're running Vista > you can proudly wear the webDU badge on your desktop and count down > the remaining days until the big event kicks off! > > Download the webDU 2007 countdown gadget, you know you want to ;) > > > http://gallery.live.com/liveItemDetail.aspx?li=2ba8a925-c4e1-4ddc-a85f-1075aa48165b&l=1 > > What am I looking forward to the most? I'd have to say FarCry, > Transfer, and nice shiny new Scorpio stuff... with a sprinkling of > Flex as well. It should be a great few days. What are you all looking > forward to? > > Cheers. > -- > Justin > http://www.madfellas.com/blog > > > > > -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] OT: webDU 2007 - are you counting it down?
Hi All, (Yeah, this is a shameless plug...) One week from now some of us will be sitting in the workshops at webDU 2007, others will have to wait another ~21 hours or so before the conference itself begins... but until then, if you're running Vista you can proudly wear the webDU badge on your desktop and count down the remaining days until the big event kicks off! Download the webDU 2007 countdown gadget, you know you want to ;) http://gallery.live.com/liveItemDetail.aspx?li=2ba8a925-c4e1-4ddc-a85f-1075aa48165b&l=1 What am I looking forward to the most? I'd have to say FarCry, Transfer, and nice shiny new Scorpio stuff... with a sprinkling of Flex as well. It should be a great few days. What are you all looking forward to? Cheers. -- Justin http://www.madfellas.com/blog --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
I'm flattered that Microsoft puts such a high value on my soul. As stated before though, the risks outweigh the benefits, so I'll pass on this superficially attractive offer. Darren who's holding out for _20_ vigins! On Mar 14, 8:39 am, "Scott Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P.S > Barry - I'll be there (CFUG) tonight... and Darren I need you to sign > a contract, it basically outlines that I need your soul in exchange > for 7 virgins in an oasis of nirvana... usual MSFT thing... ya know > how it goes. > > Scott. > > On 3/14/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > yes I did heheh. > > > On 3/14/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Scott, > > > > none taken.. Surely you saw it as a joe right? > > > > On 3/13/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Ya know Andrew if you take that is an answer that will put a cork in > > > > your Vista Price rant... i'll sign off on it myself :) heheheeheh > > > > > (No offense by the way) > > > > > On 3/13/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > *LOL*, > > > > > > That's how Microsoft spend the outrages prices on Vista, outside of > > > > > the > > > > > USA:-) > > > > > > Andrew Scott > > > > > Senior Coldfusion Developer > > > > > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > > > > >www.aegeon.com.au > > > > > Phone:+613 8676 4223 > > > > > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com ] On > > > Behalf > > > > > Of Scott Barnes > > > > > Sent: Monday, 12 March 2007 9:36 PM > > > > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > > > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. > > > > > > Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho > > > > > theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) > > > > > > I will buy your love hows that :) > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > Scott Barnes > > > >http://www.mossyblog.com > > > > -- > > > > Senior Coldfusion Developer > > > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > > >www.aegeon.com.au > > > Phone: +613 8676 4223 > > > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > -- > > Regards, > > Scott Barnes > >http://www.mossyblog.com > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
On Mar 13, 7:58 pm, "Scott Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you're suffering from too much sceptism and the only valid > reason I can think of that would potentially be irrelevant to hosting > within Microsoft is that can't be assed moving the meetings or that > you're comfortable with the current place (either is perfectly valid > and aok). Thats two points Scott. 1. Scepticism. I've never claimed not to be a sceptic. Is it too much, or am I just being cautious? Its not a descision that only effects me, so I'll always err on the side of caution. 2. Reasons for moving. You gave two actually. As I explained before, at this point, we couldn't be bothered moving, because there just isn't enough reason to do it that benefits the User Group, beyond it just being a novelty, and secondly, we are comfortable where we are. And as you said, they are valid and OK reasons. > I remember at the Flash Platform User Group you walked up and said > "Adobe are coming here so if you need to leave let me know"... > Seriously dude, you need to move past this Adobe vs Microsoft crap > that you're somehow subscribing too as my metric within Microsoft is > anything that touches a browser and pieces that support it. Scott, that quote has been taken grossly out of context, and you know it. It was said as a joke, with a huge grin on my face, in relation to other peoples attitudes, that you knew I wasn't subscribing to. Don't start stooping to behaving like that or you'll be reinforcing the attitudes that you are trying to change. Microsoft is currently battling against its reputation for past behaviours. You've got to change those behaviours, and keep them changed, _without_exception_, before you can expect people to believe you've really changed. Regards Darren Tracey --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: MSSQL 2005 and 2000
yes, but its been a while so don't ask how I did it..:) you have to install 2000 and than 2005, cause you need the new DLLs from 2005 (for backward compatibility) Joel - Original Message - From: "Steve Onnis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "cfaussie" Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: [cfaussie] MSSQL 2005 and 2000 > > Has anyone successfully installed MSSQL 2005 and 200 on a single > machine? > > Steve > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] REMINDER: QLD CFUG March meeting tonight
just a gentle reminder that if you're coming tonight and you haven't RSVP'd yet, please let us know somehow* ... and real soon, yes? thanx we're just about to organise the catering (don't want anyone missing out) and those people who RSVP'd last week: many thanx for being so prompt.(you don't have to RSVP again for tonight ** ) cheers the QLD.CFUG crew ( * email off-list, txt to the mobile, ICQ, carrier pidgeon, smoke signals, heck at this late stage I don't care how! We've got a good crowd coming tonight and I bet they'll be hungry! be warned...) ( ** you know who you are!) > WOW! this looks like a big meeting for this months Queensland CFUG > and is bound to be a "not to be missed" event. > > Why? Because we're all gearing up for the next version of ColdFusion: > CF8, which is currently known (or so we're told) as "Scorpio". > > "but it's in beta!" you say "and none can say what's in it for fear of > Saurons spies finding out" > > there's lots to find out, believe it or not, if you know where to > look. We have our > super-sleuth detectives hard at work, reading between the lines in > press releases, unraveling the red herrings, leaving no unturned > stone... er, unturned (wha-tever!) > > to prove the point, we've even tracked down a date it'll be released > http://www.numtopia.com/terry/blog/archives/2007/03/scorpio_in_august.cfm > (and there's other reasons of the suggested date that didn't make it > to the comments - come along and find out why) > > So join us this Wednesday's CFUG and discover the secrets to Dan > Brown's unwritten mystery thriller... "The Scorpio Code" > [any references to actual deities or prophets, living or dead, is > purely coincidental...] > > > Also this month, we'll be giving the subject of Flex and Coldfusion > Data-typing a darn good shake with full demonstrations and seeing > what's happening behind the scenes. What works? what's doesn't? and is > wishful thinking? guaranteed to save you time putting a Flex front end > to your ColdFusion server code. > > And, as this will be the CFUG's pre-WebDU meeting for this year, we'll > be looking at what's on offer at WebDU, how to try and survive wanting > to be in three WebDU sessions at the same time - and how to still get > something out of it if the boss still refuses to let you go. > > > so, if you're not already a member, sign up to the QLD CFUG usergroup > http://groups.google.com/group/qldcfug/ > > and that will give us your RSVP so you can go into the prize draw (and > ensure we do a good job on catering) - we hope to see you there > > > cheers > The QLD CFUG crew. > > Meeting Details: 6:30 pm - ?, Wednesday, 14th March 2007 > If doors are locked, call 0414 328 902 for entry > > QANTM Auditorium > QANTM House > Level 9, 138 Albert St > Brisbane City > (Opposite the "Coffee Club") > > Find it on WHEREIS: > http://www.whereis.com/whereis/retrieveEmailMap.do?linkId=-;7243212240990709884 > > Find it on Google Maps: > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=138+Albert+St,+City+QLD+4000,+Australia&ie=UTF8&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=28.168051,68.90625&z=17&om=1&iwloc=addr > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
P.S Barry - I'll be there (CFUG) tonight... and Darren I need you to sign a contract, it basically outlines that I need your soul in exchange for 7 virgins in an oasis of nirvana... usual MSFT thing... ya know how it goes. Scott. On 3/14/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes I did heheh. > > > > On 3/14/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Scott, > > > > none taken.. Surely you saw it as a joe right? > > > > > > > > On 3/13/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Ya know Andrew if you take that is an answer that will put a cork in > > > your Vista Price rant... i'll sign off on it myself :) heheheeheh > > > > > > (No offense by the way) > > > > > > On 3/13/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > *LOL*, > > > > > > > > That's how Microsoft spend the outrages prices on Vista, outside of the > > > > USA:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew Scott > > > > Senior Coldfusion Developer > > > > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > > > > www.aegeon.com.au > > > > Phone:+613 8676 4223 > > > > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com ] On > > Behalf > > > > Of Scott Barnes > > > > Sent: Monday, 12 March 2007 9:36 PM > > > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. > > > > > > > > > > > > Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho > > > > theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) > > > > > > > > I will buy your love hows that :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Scott Barnes > > > http://www.mossyblog.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Senior Coldfusion Developer > > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > > www.aegeon.com.au > > Phone: +613 8676 4223 > > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblog.com > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
yes I did heheh. On 3/14/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott, > > none taken.. Surely you saw it as a joe right? > > > > On 3/13/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ya know Andrew if you take that is an answer that will put a cork in > > your Vista Price rant... i'll sign off on it myself :) heheheeheh > > > > (No offense by the way) > > > > On 3/13/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > *LOL*, > > > > > > That's how Microsoft spend the outrages prices on Vista, outside of the > > > USA:-) > > > > > > > > > Andrew Scott > > > Senior Coldfusion Developer > > > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > > > www.aegeon.com.au > > > Phone:+613 8676 4223 > > > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com ] On > Behalf > > > Of Scott Barnes > > > Sent: Monday, 12 March 2007 9:36 PM > > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. > > > > > > > > > Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho > > > theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) > > > > > > I will buy your love hows that :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Scott Barnes > > http://www.mossyblog.com > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Senior Coldfusion Developer > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > www.aegeon.com.au > Phone: +613 8676 4223 > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
Scott, none taken.. Surely you saw it as a joe right? On 3/13/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ya know Andrew if you take that is an answer that will put a cork in > your Vista Price rant... i'll sign off on it myself :) heheheeheh > > (No offense by the way) > > On 3/13/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > *LOL*, > > > > That's how Microsoft spend the outrages prices on Vista, outside of the > > USA:-) > > > > > > Andrew Scott > > Senior Coldfusion Developer > > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > > www.aegeon.com.au > > Phone:+613 8676 4223 > > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > > Of Scott Barnes > > Sent: Monday, 12 March 2007 9:36 PM > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. > > > > > > Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho > > theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) > > > > I will buy your love hows that :) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblog.com > > > > -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: site downloading
The first time i used Teleport Pro years ago, I didnt know too much about dynamic sites. I set the thing to gathering the site i was working on, not realising the importance of setting the options, then went on home, expecting that in the morning i'd have a neat and tidy backup of the site on my PC to work on. To my surprise when i got into the office the next day, I found that not only didn't i have a full copy of the site on my PC to play with, Teleport Pro was busy still, copying page number 85,448!!! It was going all the way through the catalogue, with all the options etc and treating each page view as a new page, downloading it, along with the images associated. the same stuff was coming in time after time after time!!! Sheepishly, I stopped it, quietly deleted the gigabyte or so of static pages, and never said anything to anyone. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 3/13/07, Brett Payne-Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've used Teleport Pro: http://www.tenmax.com/teleport/pro/home.htm with > great success > > B) > > > > grant wrote: > > Hi All > > > > What tools are you guys using & recommend for downloading entire sites > > from the web? The IE and FF 'save as...' just isn't cutting it. > > > > TIA > > Grant > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
Thanks, Darren. Chris, I had indeed meant to say in my note, "where they don't have wireless access or they won't want to let you plug into their wired network". /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Tracey Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:00 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. If you hold meetings in a business's premises, then you're not plugging 'the internet cable' into a laptop, you're connecting a foreign pc into the guts of their internal network. Any sane network admin would justifiably freak at that prospect. There also may be all sorts of proxy settings and possibly even accounts that would be required to make them work. In short, its something that you just don't do. You use PC equipment thats already on the network and don't install anything that they don't want, or only use data projection with presenters laptops and don't connect the network. Regards Darren Tracey On Mar 13, 1:27 pm, "Chris Velevitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/12/07, Charlie Arehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Barry and I discussed it off-list. They have a common problem, > > working in a place where they don't have wireless access, and while > > there's a computer in the room which does have net access, it > > belongs to the facility and they don't want any software installed, > > so the presenters instead just plug their laptops into the > > projector. All that makes recording using tools like Breeze/Connect/LiveMeeting impossible. > > What's wrong with plugging the internet cable into the presenters laptop? > > Chris --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: MSSQL 2005 and 2000
Yes - well through VMWare :) heh. On 3/13/07, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Has anyone successfully installed MSSQL 2005 and 200 on a single > machine? > > Steve > > > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
Ya know Andrew if you take that is an answer that will put a cork in your Vista Price rant... i'll sign off on it myself :) heheheeheh (No offense by the way) On 3/13/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *LOL*, > > That's how Microsoft spend the outrages prices on Vista, outside of the > USA:-) > > > Andrew Scott > Senior Coldfusion Developer > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > www.aegeon.com.au > Phone:+613 8676 4223 > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > > -Original Message- > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Scott Barnes > Sent: Monday, 12 March 2007 9:36 PM > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. > > > Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho > theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) > > I will buy your love hows that :) > > > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
I'm sorry to say Darren I read that thread and firstly, I want my 10mins back. I think you're suffering from too much sceptism and the only valid reason I can think of that would potentially be irrelevant to hosting within Microsoft is that can't be assed moving the meetings or that you're comfortable with the current place (either is perfectly valid and aok). Offer is there, no catch, no soul being sold to the devil as again - for those in the nose bleed seats - "Microsoft means many things to many people" I remember at the Flash Platform User Group you walked up and said "Adobe are coming here so if you need to leave let me know"... Seriously dude, you need to move past this Adobe vs Microsoft crap that you're somehow subscribing too as my metric within Microsoft is anything that touches a browser and pieces that support it. Internet Explorer Microsoft SQL 2005 Wndows 2003./ Server Windows Vista, Windows XP Expression Tools Windows IIS ASP.NET ASP.NET AJAX (PHP Ajax via Codex) Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) Windows Presentation Everywhere (WPF/e) Sharepoint Office 2007 I could list the rest.. I think you get my point... Many things to many people. Its time you all started to wise up that if you play that game us vs them, you're only limiting your own possibilities. On 3/13/07, Darren Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd also like to add a little to the CFUGs in Microsoft issue. > I pondered this exact same thing recently myself. > Its an interesting idea that you could hold your CFUG meeting in the > premises of your 'competitor'. > Getting free stuff out of Microsoft is also always nice. > But thats it. There's no other real value add. > We get our catering costs covered by the local Adobe office, we get > sufficient free giveaways from Adobe as well, and we have a very good > venue also provided at no cost. > Apart from being interesting, what do we gain from holding it at > Microsoft? (yes I know this all stemmed from an internet connection > issue, but there are other ways around that) > > The people at Microsoft are _far_ from idiots. They don't do things > for no reason, or even trivial reasons. > People can say all they want that it doesn't matter, and "we're not > idiots, we won't be swayed", but in the end, it does make a > difference, and it doesn't "feel right". > Microsoft are far too keen, so they are obviously seeing it as a non > trivial benefit to them. I'm not seeing any kind of benefit beyond the > trivial that the CFUG gets from the arrangement, and at the end of the > day, they are the competitor. > > As I've said in other lists lately, there are places to go to get info > about Microsoft products and places to go to get info on Adobe > products, and the two should be seperate and distinct things. Everyone > knows where to get info about Microsoft products. The CFUG community > doesn't have to facilitate information flow about competing > technologies. > I have no problem with getting someone from Microsoft in to tell us > about technologies that we want to hear about, but its still our > meeting, and its our call as to what is covered and what is not > covered, and you start to loose that control when you accept > 'incentives' like hosting, etc, from any vendor. > Its a slippery slope, and there may not be any problems with doing it > either, but the trick is to avoid the potential situations where > compromising your aims and objectives becomes possible or is removed > from your control. > The risk is small, but the benefit is even smaller, so its just not > worth taking it, in my mind. > > Thats why we're doing what we're doing. > > Regards > > Darren Tracey > > > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
last night = last month (been a long day) On 3/13/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ya know I've just not bothered to read this thread as I don't have the > energy to argue with you guys on Microsoft vs Agenda politics. > > Ok.. so .. we all have used MS SQL right? Have you used Internet > Explorer or better yet IIS. > > If you have any yes's in those boxes the Microsoft is relevant to the > Adobe Coldfusion User Group. > > Guys - remember Microsofts product range on a number of platforms and > services available, we aren't a one trick poney and if Adobe want to > pitch the whole "Blue Team vs Red Team" approach to the world and that > kind of crap appeals to you, by all means buy into it. > > If you'd prefer to have a rational conversation that doesn't involve > politics and brands and all that crap that just causes headaches - > come see me as I'll be willing to listen. > > Offers there folks, yes you can have Adobe do a presentation on it and > I'll organise the theatres to accomodate. > > Put it into context: We have the Brisbane Web Design User Group last > night where Ben gave a presentation on an OSX Machine and some dude > was handing out Linux shirts > > We just don't play that game - no matter how many times I'll try and tell you > :) > > On 3/13/07, Darren Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'd also like to add a little to the CFUGs in Microsoft issue. > > I pondered this exact same thing recently myself. > > Its an interesting idea that you could hold your CFUG meeting in the > > premises of your 'competitor'. > > Getting free stuff out of Microsoft is also always nice. > > But thats it. There's no other real value add. > > We get our catering costs covered by the local Adobe office, we get > > sufficient free giveaways from Adobe as well, and we have a very good > > venue also provided at no cost. > > Apart from being interesting, what do we gain from holding it at > > Microsoft? (yes I know this all stemmed from an internet connection > > issue, but there are other ways around that) > > > > The people at Microsoft are _far_ from idiots. They don't do things > > for no reason, or even trivial reasons. > > People can say all they want that it doesn't matter, and "we're not > > idiots, we won't be swayed", but in the end, it does make a > > difference, and it doesn't "feel right". > > Microsoft are far too keen, so they are obviously seeing it as a non > > trivial benefit to them. I'm not seeing any kind of benefit beyond the > > trivial that the CFUG gets from the arrangement, and at the end of the > > day, they are the competitor. > > > > As I've said in other lists lately, there are places to go to get info > > about Microsoft products and places to go to get info on Adobe > > products, and the two should be seperate and distinct things. Everyone > > knows where to get info about Microsoft products. The CFUG community > > doesn't have to facilitate information flow about competing > > technologies. > > I have no problem with getting someone from Microsoft in to tell us > > about technologies that we want to hear about, but its still our > > meeting, and its our call as to what is covered and what is not > > covered, and you start to loose that control when you accept > > 'incentives' like hosting, etc, from any vendor. > > Its a slippery slope, and there may not be any problems with doing it > > either, but the trick is to avoid the potential situations where > > compromising your aims and objectives becomes possible or is removed > > from your control. > > The risk is small, but the benefit is even smaller, so its just not > > worth taking it, in my mind. > > > > Thats why we're doing what we're doing. > > > > Regards > > > > Darren Tracey > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblog.com > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
Ya know I've just not bothered to read this thread as I don't have the energy to argue with you guys on Microsoft vs Agenda politics. Ok.. so .. we all have used MS SQL right? Have you used Internet Explorer or better yet IIS. If you have any yes's in those boxes the Microsoft is relevant to the Adobe Coldfusion User Group. Guys - remember Microsofts product range on a number of platforms and services available, we aren't a one trick poney and if Adobe want to pitch the whole "Blue Team vs Red Team" approach to the world and that kind of crap appeals to you, by all means buy into it. If you'd prefer to have a rational conversation that doesn't involve politics and brands and all that crap that just causes headaches - come see me as I'll be willing to listen. Offers there folks, yes you can have Adobe do a presentation on it and I'll organise the theatres to accomodate. Put it into context: We have the Brisbane Web Design User Group last night where Ben gave a presentation on an OSX Machine and some dude was handing out Linux shirts We just don't play that game - no matter how many times I'll try and tell you :) On 3/13/07, Darren Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd also like to add a little to the CFUGs in Microsoft issue. > I pondered this exact same thing recently myself. > Its an interesting idea that you could hold your CFUG meeting in the > premises of your 'competitor'. > Getting free stuff out of Microsoft is also always nice. > But thats it. There's no other real value add. > We get our catering costs covered by the local Adobe office, we get > sufficient free giveaways from Adobe as well, and we have a very good > venue also provided at no cost. > Apart from being interesting, what do we gain from holding it at > Microsoft? (yes I know this all stemmed from an internet connection > issue, but there are other ways around that) > > The people at Microsoft are _far_ from idiots. They don't do things > for no reason, or even trivial reasons. > People can say all they want that it doesn't matter, and "we're not > idiots, we won't be swayed", but in the end, it does make a > difference, and it doesn't "feel right". > Microsoft are far too keen, so they are obviously seeing it as a non > trivial benefit to them. I'm not seeing any kind of benefit beyond the > trivial that the CFUG gets from the arrangement, and at the end of the > day, they are the competitor. > > As I've said in other lists lately, there are places to go to get info > about Microsoft products and places to go to get info on Adobe > products, and the two should be seperate and distinct things. Everyone > knows where to get info about Microsoft products. The CFUG community > doesn't have to facilitate information flow about competing > technologies. > I have no problem with getting someone from Microsoft in to tell us > about technologies that we want to hear about, but its still our > meeting, and its our call as to what is covered and what is not > covered, and you start to loose that control when you accept > 'incentives' like hosting, etc, from any vendor. > Its a slippery slope, and there may not be any problems with doing it > either, but the trick is to avoid the potential situations where > compromising your aims and objectives becomes possible or is removed > from your control. > The risk is small, but the benefit is even smaller, so its just not > worth taking it, in my mind. > > Thats why we're doing what we're doing. > > Regards > > Darren Tracey > > > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: site downloading
I would suggest wget -r http://the.site.to.download/ There is a version for most operating systems Cheers, Simon it runs on On 13/03/07, Brett Payne-Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've used Teleport Pro: http://www.tenmax.com/teleport/pro/home.htm with > great success > > B) > > > > grant wrote: > > Hi All > > > > What tools are you guys using & recommend for downloading entire sites > > from the web? The IE and FF 'save as...' just isn't cutting it. > > > > TIA > > Grant > > > > > > > > > > -- Cheers Simon Haddon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] MSSQL 2005 and 2000
Has anyone successfully installed MSSQL 2005 and 200 on a single machine? Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
