[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Different numbers for each contest. and you have to enter something in the SMS like the answer for example. Also, the originating phone number is part of the request so they then know the mobile of the person that sent it and the answer. On 27/10/2008, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do the TV channels do?They can have multiple contests running at once, and all receiving entries by SMS - they dont always require you to put an ID code for the contest, or does this week's code word do that?I thought that was just to make sure you watched the tv show or bought the associated magazine. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Claude SMS is defined as Short Message Service. You cant put a link in it for people to click on as an SMS is text only. Some phones highlight numbers and that sort of thing but that's a software thing so I wouldn't depend on it. You can add a link in there but it wont be clickable. Another option is to use a 1300 number and see if it will include any other numbers after the number and still forward the message on properly. That's how they do things like 1300 STEVE ONNIS. There are too many numbers for a phone number but the service only recognises the numbers related to the phone number and connects you anyway. Maybe if you have the 1300 number push the sms to a mobile number you can include other values in the reply number. So if your reply number is 1300123123, then you could do something like 13001231239456 so 9 could be the userid and then 456 would be the jobid. When the SMS gateway gets the message with the FROM number being the 1300 number you can process the message with the message contents and the FROM number values. Just a suggestion but maybe something to look into. Steve -- Cheers Simon Haddon Woman loves feeling danger and speed. That is why woman wants man. They get a speed rush that is the most dangerous of all. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Hi Claude, Simon's approach is probably the best if it is workable. Send an email with the job parametershit that link in the email to hit the cfm page that sends the sms reply to notify the job status. Of course this solution is only workable from your mobile if you have email and internet browsing. tipkeep the cfm page well hidden and secure as you run the risk of hackers running scripts that continually hit this page. Not exactly what you are afterbut much better than going throught the expense of setting up SMPP and testing event gateways. Use POST not GET where possible to send your request to your sms providers.(basic security) You would use SMPP if you were up around the 5000+ messages a month usage. (reliable global provider: Clickatell) Hope that helps. Chris On Oct 23, 1:14 pm, Simon Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My company develops a system to keep travellers aware of their flight details and other associated information. The communication is 2 way. from server to mobile and visa versa. we also have developed an email to sms gateway on top of the main messaging system. We hav euse Mobile365 and are now using Street Data as they are alot cheaper. The actual sending and receiving is done via a GET url request and is encapsulated so that changing service providers isn't too much of a pain. Having said that. Every service provider has their own quircks and these are not always documented which makes programming interesting. Things like unicode, message length, message length for multi part messages, etc. It is certainly possible. The main thign about your situation is making sure that anyone replying to your system sends some soft of identifier to ensure that the right job is closed off. Also, you want to put transparent security in place as other people migh try and hack through your SMS system. One thign we do is not allow a SMS to be received unless it it in receipt to a sent SMS or a registered user. There are oter things that can also be done. I hope that helps a bit. Cheers, Simon On 22/10/2008, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have created a facility within my CF application to have messages sent to maintenance staff via sms, the sms containing the details of a maintenance request. When the maintenance request is logged into the system the details of the request are added to the sql database table and given a job pending status I have been asked whether its possible to have the receiver of the sms reply to the maintenance request received once the job is complete sending a sms containing the words Done and then have that data communicated back to the cf application so the cf application can then change the status of the specific job from pending to done. Any thoughts on the possibility of being able to develop the functionality as mentioned above would be appreciated. Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.comhttp://www.australianaccommodation.com/ www.SAMARIS.NEThttp://www.samaris.net/ www.WebSiteSolutions.com.auhttp://www.websitesolutions.com.au/ Mobile: 0414 228 948 On Wed Oct 22 17:07 , 'Steve Onnis' sent: Are there images you cant use with CFIMAGE ? I am having an issue with a jog image and it just wont save. The image loads ok, resizes but when i try to write it out to the file system again it just errors saying the file doesnt exists. Well derr.. of course not, i am trying to write it. Its like the original image is there and then cf deleted it in prep to write it out again but fails. It is just on a specific image. Am happy to send the image to some people to test it.. Steve -- Cheers Simon Haddon Woman loves feeling danger and speed. That is why woman wants man. They get a speed rush that is the most dangerous of all.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Hi, We don't use any web connection from the mobile. As long as they can send an SMS then they are right. The email part of it is so that the consultants with email can send an SMS via their email which gets picked up and then ships it off as SMS via ValusSMS. Once we have 3000+ calls/month then we will probably go back to Mobile365. The SMS providers only accept GET and the post back via GET as well. Not much of an option there as that is how they all appear to accept it unless they provide an SMPP gateway. Cheers, Simon On 27/10/2008, Chris Ellem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Claude, Simon's approach is probably the best if it is workable. Send an email with the job parametershit that link in the email to hit the cfm page that sends the sms reply to notify the job status. Of course this solution is only workable from your mobile if you have email and internet browsing. tipkeep the cfm page well hidden and secure as you run the risk of hackers running scripts that continually hit this page. Not exactly what you are afterbut much better than going throught the expense of setting up SMPP and testing event gateways. Use POST not GET where possible to send your request to your sms providers.(basic security) You would use SMPP if you were up around the 5000+ messages a month usage. (reliable global provider: Clickatell) Hope that helps. Chris On Oct 23, 1:14 pm, Simon Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My company develops a system to keep travellers aware of their flight details and other associated information. The communication is 2 way. from server to mobile and visa versa. we also have developed an email to sms gateway on top of the main messaging system. We hav euse Mobile365 and are now using Street Data as they are alot cheaper. The actual sending and receiving is done via a GET url request and is encapsulated so that changing service providers isn't too much of a pain. Having said that. Every service provider has their own quircks and these are not always documented which makes programming interesting. Things like unicode, message length, message length for multi part messages, etc. It is certainly possible. The main thign about your situation is making sure that anyone replying to your system sends some soft of identifier to ensure that the right job is closed off. Also, you want to put transparent security in place as other people migh try and hack through your SMS system. One thign we do is not allow a SMS to be received unless it it in receipt to a sent SMS or a registered user. There are oter things that can also be done. I hope that helps a bit. Cheers, Simon On 22/10/2008, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have created a facility within my CF application to have messages sent to maintenance staff via sms, the sms containing the details of a maintenance request. When the maintenance request is logged into the system the details of the request are added to the sql database table and given a job pending status I have been asked whether its possible to have the receiver of the sms reply to the maintenance request received once the job is complete sending a sms containing the words Done and then have that data communicated back to the cf application so the cf application can then change the status of the specific job from pending to done. Any thoughts on the possibility of being able to develop the functionality as mentioned above would be appreciated. Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.comhttp://www.australianaccommodation.com/ www.SAMARIS.NEThttp://www.samaris.net/ www.WebSiteSolutions.com.auhttp://www.websitesolutions.com.au/ Mobile: 0414 228 948 On Wed Oct 22 17:07 , 'Steve Onnis' sent: Are there images you cant use with CFIMAGE ? I am having an issue with a jog image and it just wont save. The image loads ok, resizes but when i try to write it out to the file system again it just errors saying the file doesnt exists. Well derr.. of course not, i am trying to write it. Its like the original image is there and then cf deleted it in prep to write it out again but fails. It is just on a specific image. Am happy to send the image to some people to test it.. Steve -- Cheers Simon Haddon Woman loves feeling danger and speed. That is why woman wants man. They get a speed rush that is the most dangerous of all.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Cheers Simon Haddon Woman loves feeling danger and speed. That is why woman wants man. They get a speed rush that is the most dangerous of all. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Hi All This is an interesting thread. Ive been thinking about building 'reply' SMS features into some websites lately myself. So basically what you are saying is the Coldfusion SMS gateway isn't really of any use for most providers since they use HTTP Get to reply anyways ? Is the coldfusion sms gatway an SMPP gatway listener ? and from what i read its complicated to get working ? Pat On Oct 27, 10:57 am, Simon Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We don't use any web connection from the mobile. As long as they can send an SMS then they are right. The email part of it is so that the consultants with email can send an SMS via their email which gets picked up and then ships it off as SMS via ValusSMS. Once we have 3000+ calls/month then we will probably go back to Mobile365. The SMS providers only accept GET and the post back via GET as well. Not much of an option there as that is how they all appear to accept it unless they provide an SMPP gateway. Cheers, Simon On 27/10/2008, Chris Ellem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Claude, Simon's approach is probably the best if it is workable. Send an email with the job parametershit that link in the email to hit the cfm page that sends the sms reply to notify the job status. Of course this solution is only workable from your mobile if you have email and internet browsing. tipkeep the cfm page well hidden and secure as you run the risk of hackers running scripts that continually hit this page. Not exactly what you are afterbut much better than going throught the expense of setting up SMPP and testing event gateways. Use POST not GET where possible to send your request to your sms providers.(basic security) You would use SMPP if you were up around the 5000+ messages a month usage. (reliable global provider: Clickatell) Hope that helps. Chris On Oct 23, 1:14 pm, Simon Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My company develops a system to keep travellers aware of their flight details and other associated information. The communication is 2 way. from server to mobile and visa versa. we also have developed an email to sms gateway on top of the main messaging system. We hav euse Mobile365 and are now using Street Data as they are alot cheaper. The actual sending and receiving is done via a GET url request and is encapsulated so that changing service providers isn't too much of a pain. Having said that. Every service provider has their own quircks and these are not always documented which makes programming interesting. Things like unicode, message length, message length for multi part messages, etc. It is certainly possible. The main thign about your situation is making sure that anyone replying to your system sends some soft of identifier to ensure that the right job is closed off. Also, you want to put transparent security in place as other people migh try and hack through your SMS system. One thign we do is not allow a SMS to be received unless it it in receipt to a sent SMS or a registered user. There are oter things that can also be done. I hope that helps a bit. Cheers, Simon On 22/10/2008, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have created a facility within my CF application to have messages sent to maintenance staff via sms, the sms containing the details of a maintenance request. When the maintenance request is logged into the system the details of the request are added to the sql database table and given a job pending status I have been asked whether its possible to have the receiver of the sms reply to the maintenance request received once the job is complete sending a sms containing the words Done and then have that data communicated back to the cf application so the cf application can then change the status of the specific job from pending to done. Any thoughts on the possibility of being able to develop the functionality as mentioned above would be appreciated. Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.comhttp://www.australianaccommodation.com/ www.SAMARIS.NEThttp://www.samaris.net/ www.WebSiteSolutions.com.auhttp://www.websitesolutions.com.au/ Mobile: 0414 228 948 On Wed Oct 22 17:07 , 'Steve Onnis' sent: Are there images you cant use with CFIMAGE ? I am having an issue with a jog image and it just wont save. The image loads ok, resizes but when i try to write it out to the file system again it just errors saying the file doesnt exists. Well derr.. of course not, i am trying to write it. Its like the original image is there and then cf deleted it in prep to write it out again but fails. It is just on a specific image. Am happy to send the image to some people to test it.. Steve
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Hi, The issue i have is that replying to an sms received will not pass any of the variables passed in the sms sent in other words if activity with id=2547 is recorded into the database and sent to a mobile via sms if the user replies back via sms the application needs to receive not only an action command eg DONE so that the action page knows to update the status of the task to DONE the action page needs to have the id=2547 also passed to it so that it knows which record it is updating, having the user manually enter the record id (which is displayed in the sms received ) in their reply sms has a huge margin for error due human miss keying / mis reading the id number and potentially causing the action page to update the wrong record in the database Comment please Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 On Sun Oct 26 17:53 , Pat Branley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: Hi All This is an interesting thread. Ive been thinking about building 'reply' SMS features into some websites lately myself. So basically what you are saying is the Coldfusion SMS gateway isn't really of any use for most providers since they use HTTP Get to reply anyways ? Is the coldfusion sms gatway an SMPP gatway listener ? and from what i read its complicated to get working ? Pat On Oct 27, 10:57am, "Simon Haddon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We don't use any web connection from the mobile. As long as they can send an SMS then they are right. The email part of it is so that the consultants with email can send an SMS via their email which gets picked up and then ships it off as SMS via ValusSMS. Once we have 3000+ calls/month then we will probably go back to Mobile365. The SMS providers only accept GET and the post back via GET as well. Not much of an option there as that is how they all appear to accept it unless they provide an SMPP gateway. Cheers, Simon On 27/10/2008, Chris Ellem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Claude, Simon's approach is probably the best if it is workable. Send an email with the job parametershit that link in the email to hit the cfm page that sends the sms reply to notify the job status. Of course this solution is only workable from your mobile if you have email and internet browsing. tipkeep the cfm page well hidden and secure as you run the risk of hackers running scripts that continually hit this page. Not exactly what you are afterbut much better than going throught the expense of setting up SMPP and testing event gateways. Use POST not GET where possible to send your request to your sms providers.(basic security) You would use SMPP if you were up around the 5000+ messages a month usage. (reliable global provider: Clickatell) Hope that helps. Chris On Oct 23, 1:14 pm, "Simon Haddon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My company develops a system to keep travellers aware of their flight details and other associated information. The communication is 2 way. from server to mobile and visa versa. we also have developed an email to sms gateway on top of the main messaging system. We hav euse Mobile365 and are now using Street Data as they are alot cheaper. The actual sending and receiving is done via a GET url request and is encapsulated so that changing service providers isn't too much of a pain. Having said that. Every service provider has their own quircks and these are not always documented which makes programming interesting. Things like unicode, message length, message length for multi part messages, etc. It is certainly possible. The main thign about your situation is making sure that anyone replying to your system sends some soft of identifier to ensure that the right job is closed off. Also, you want to put transparent security in place as other people migh try and hack through your SMS system. One thign we do is not allow a SMS to be received unless it it in receipt to a sent SMS or a registered user. There are oter things that can also be done. I hope that helps a bit. Cheers, Simon On 22/10/2008, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have created a facility within my CF application to have messages sent to maintenance staff via sms, the sms containing the details of a maintenance request. When the maintenance request is logged into the system the details of the request are added to the sql database table and given a job pending status I have been asked whether its possible to have the receiver of the sms reply to the maintenance request received once the job is complete sending a sms containing the words "Done" and then have that data
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Claude
You NEED to pass something other than just DONE otherwise how do you know
what to update? All the data you will need to use HAS TO BE in the sms
message being sent back to you. There is no other way around it.
_
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Claude Raiola
Sent: Monday, 27 October 2008 12:20 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Hi,
The issue i have is that replying to an sms received will not pass any of
the variables passed in the sms sent
in other words if activity with id=2547 is recorded into the database and
sent to a mobile via sms if the user replies back via sms the application
needs to receive not only an action command eg DONE so that the action page
knows to update the status of the task to DONE the action page needs to have
the id=2547 also passed to it so that it knows which record it is updating,
having the user manually enter the record id (which is displayed in the sms
received ) in their reply sms has a huge margin for error due human miss
keying / mis reading the id number and potentially causing the action page
to update the wrong record in the database
Comment please
Regards
Claude Raiola
B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt.
Websites:
www.AustralianAccommodation.com
www.SAMARIS.NET
www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au
Mobile: 0414 228 948
On Sun Oct 26 17:53 , Pat Branley sent:
Hi All
This is an interesting thread. Ive been thinking about building
'reply' SMS features into some websites lately myself.
So basically what you are saying is the Coldfusion SMS gateway isn't
really of any use for most providers since they use HTTP Get to reply
anyways ?
Is the coldfusion sms gatway an SMPP gatway listener ? and from what i
read its complicated to get working ?
Pat
On Oct 27, 10:57 am, Simon Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
javascript:top.opencompose('[EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','') wrote:
Hi,
We don't use any web connection from the mobile. As long as they can send
an
SMS then they are right. The email part of it is so that the consultants
with email can send an SMS via their email which gets picked up and then
ships it off as SMS via ValusSMS. Once we have 3000+ calls/month then we
will probably go back to Mobile365. The SMS providers only accept GET and
the post back via GET as well. Not much of an option there as that is how
they all appear to accept it unless they provide an SMPP gateway.
Cheers,
Simon
On 27/10/2008, Chris Ellem [EMAIL PROTECTED]
javascript:top.opencompose('[EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','') wrote:
Hi Claude,
Simon's approach is probably the best if it is workable.
Send an email with the job parametershit that link in the email to
hit the cfm page that sends the sms reply to notify the job status.
Of course this solution is only workable from your mobile if you have
email and internet browsing.
tipkeep the cfm page well hidden and secure as you run the risk of
hackers running scripts that continually hit this page.
Not exactly what you are afterbut much better than going throught
the expense of setting up SMPP and testing event gateways.
Use POST not GET where possible to send your request to your sms
providers.(basic security)
You would use SMPP if you were up around the 5000+ messages a month
usage. (reliable global provider: Clickatell)
Hope that helps.
Chris
On Oct 23, 1:14 pm, Simon Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
javascript:top.opencompose('[EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','') wrote:
Hi,
My company develops a system to keep travellers aware of their flight
details and other associated information. The communication is 2 way.
from
server to mobile and visa versa. we also have developed an email to
sms
gateway on top of the main messaging system. We hav euse Mobile365 and
are
now using Street Data as they are alot cheaper. The actual sending
and
receiving is done via a GET url request and is encapsulated so that
changing
service providers isn't too much of a pain.
Having said that. Every service provider has their own quircks and
these
are
not always documented which makes programming interesting. Things
like
unicode, message length, message length for multi part messages, etc.
It is certainly possible. The main thign about your situation is
making
sure
that anyone replying to your system sends some soft of identifier to
ensure
that the right job is closed off. Also, you want to put transparent
security in place as other people migh try and hack through your SMS
system.
One thign we do is not allow a SMS to be received unless it it in
receipt
to
a sent SMS or a registered user. There are oter things that can also
be
done.
I hope that helps a bit.
Cheers,
Simon
On 22/10/2008, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
javascript:top.opencompose('[EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','') wrote:
Hi,
I have created a facility within my CF
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
I am thinking a work around id to have a html link embedded in the sms message sent so when they click it the it takes them to the action page and the link has the id etc appended to it, naturally it requires them to have web enabled phones to achieve this approach. the other alternative being to create specific wap enabled pages for them to access on their pda's however given the amount of information needed to be contained in drop down lists etc i do not see this as a viable option. Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 On Mon Oct 27 13:15 , 'Simon Haddon' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: I think this is a problem that all SMS gateways encounter. SMS is very basic and really only designed for simple text. You will need to get them to enter something else besides done if you want to match upagainst a specific record. Maybe you could only have 1 job given to a person at a time and once done then sned the next. On 27/10/2008, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The issue i have is that replying to an sms received will not pass any of the variables passed in the sms sent in other words if activity with id=2547 is recorded into the database and sent to a mobile via sms if the user replies back via sms the application needs to receive not only an action command eg DONE so that the action page knows to update the status of the task to DONE the action page needs to have the id=2547 also passed to it so that it knows which record it is updating, having the user manually enter the record id (which is displayed in the sms received ) in their reply sms has a huge margin for error due human miss keying / mis reading the id number and potentially causing the action page to update the wrong record in the database Comment please Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 On Sun Oct 26 17:53 , Pat Branley sent: Hi All This is an interesting thread. Ive been thinking about building 'reply' SMS features into some websites lately myself. So basically what you are saying is the Coldfusion SMS gateway isn't really of any use for most providers since they use HTTP Get to reply anyways ? Is the coldfusion sms gatway an SMPP gatway listener ? and from what i read its complicated to get working ? Pat On Oct 27, 10:57am, "Simon Haddon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We don't use any web connection from the mobile. As long as they can send an SMS then they are right. The email part of it is so that the consultants with email can send an SMS via their email which gets picked up and then ships it off as SMS via ValusSMS. Once we have 3000+ calls/month then we will probably go back to Mobile365. The SMS providers only accept GET and the post back via GET as well. Not much of an option there as that is how they all appear to accept it unless they provide an SMPP gateway. Cheers, Simon On 27/10/2008, Chris Ellem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Claude, Simon's approach is probably the best if it is workable. Send an email with the job parametershit that link in the email to hit the cfm page that sends the sms reply to notify the job status. Of course this solution is only workable from your mobile if you have email and internet browsing. tipkeep the cfm page well hidden and secure as you run the risk of hackers running scripts that continually hit this page. Not exactly what you are afterbut much better than going throught the expense of setting up SMPP and testing event gateways. Use POST not GET where possible to send your request to your sms providers.(basic security) You would use SMPP if you were up around the 5000+ messages a month usage. (reliable global provider: Clickatell) Hope that helps. Chris On Oct 23, 1:14 pm, "Simon Haddon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My company develops a system to keep travellers aware of their flight details and other associated information. The communication is 2 way. from server to mobile and visa versa. we also have developed an email to sms gateway on top of the main messaging system. We hav euse Mobile365 and are now using Street Data as they are alot cheaper. The actual sending and receiving is done via a GET url request and is encapsulated so that changing service providers isn't too much of a pain. Having said that. Every service provider has their own quircks and these are not always documented which makes programming interesting. Things like unicode, message length, message length for multi part messages, etc. It is certainly possible. The main thign about your situation is making sure that anyone replying to your system sends some soft of identifier to ensure that
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
What if i take an alternative approach of having an embedded link in the sms sent so they click on it and the link contains the necessary data appended to the url (yes i know the limitation is the users need to have a web enabled phone / pda ) Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 On Mon Oct 27 13:22 , 'Steve Onnis' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: Claude You NEED to pass something other than just DONE otherwise how do you know what to update? All the data you will need to use HAS TO BE in the sms message being sent back to you. There is no other way around it. From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claude Raiola Sent: Monday, 27 October 2008 12:20 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway Hi, The issue i have is that replying to an sms received will not pass any of the variables passed in the sms sent in other words if activity with id=2547 is recorded into the database and sent to a mobile via sms if the user replies back via sms the application needs to receive not only an action command eg DONE so that the action page knows to update the status of the task to DONE the action page needs to have the id=2547 also passed to it so that it knows which record it is updating, having the user manually enter the record id (which is displayed in the sms received ) in their reply sms has a huge margin for error due human miss keying / mis reading the id number and potentially causing the action page to update the wrong record in the database Comment please Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 On Sun Oct 26 17:53 , Pat Branley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>sent: Hi All This is an interesting thread. Ive been thinking about building 'reply' SMS features into some websites lately myself. So basically what you are saying is the Coldfusion SMS gateway isn't really of any use for most providers since they use HTTP Get to reply anyways ? Is the coldfusion sms gatway an SMPP gatway listener ? and from what i read its complicated to get working ? Pat On Oct 27, 10:57am, "Simon Haddon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We don't use any web connection from the mobile. As long as they can send an SMS then they are right. The email part of it is so that the consultants with email can send an SMS via their email which gets picked up and then ships it off as SMS via ValusSMS. Once we have 3000+ calls/month then we will probably go back to Mobile365. The SMS providers only accept GET and the post back via GET as well. Not much of an option there as that is how they all appear to accept it unless they provide an SMPP gateway. Cheers, Simon On 27/10/2008, Chris Ellem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Claude, Simon's approach is probably the best if it is workable. Send an email with the job parametershit that link in the email to hit the cfm page that sends the sms reply to notify the job status. Of course this solution is only workable from your mobile if you have email and internet browsing. tipkeep the cfm page well hidden and secure as you run the risk of hackers running scripts that continually hit this page. Not exactly what you are afterbut much better than going throught the expense of setting up SMPP and testing event gateways. Use POST not GET where possible to send your request to your sms providers.(basic security) You would use SMPP if you were up around the 5000+ messages a month usage. (reliable global provider: Clickatell) Hope that helps. Chris On Oct 23, 1:14 pm, "Simon Haddon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My company develops a system to keep travellers aware of their flight details and other associated information. The communication is 2 way. from server to mobile and visa versa. we also have developed an email to sms gateway on top of the main messaging system. We hav euse Mobile365 and are now using Street Data as they are alot cheaper. The actual sending and receiving is done via a GET url request and is encapsulated so that changing service providers isn't too much of a pain. Having said that. Every service provider has their own quircks and these are not always documented which makes programming interesting. Things like unicode, message length, message length for multi part messages, etc. It is certainly possible. The main thign about your situation is making sure that anyone replying to your system sends some soft of identifier to ensure that the right job
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
I have just send an SMS to my phone via an email. It was in html and it came across as plain text with the embedded URL placed at the end. I also put the same URL in as plain text and it turned it into a url I can click on. The only problem I see with this approach is that you would need internet access and web enabled phone which is not really a big deal now as most phones have that. It would be very easy to have a list of a few URLs that give the different options so that they click on a URL and that is it. Then you could have whatever you wanted. Maybe not as elegent as using just SMS and it would cost more to use as the client of the phone would be making internet calls which is lots more than a plain SMS. The only time we have to respond to a request is when a client requests information. In that case it is easy. But the other way? Can't see another option besides the URL idea or enterig the job number in the SMS. Mind you, since you know who the message came from you can check that the number entered is one on their list and iff not return an error telling them that it is incorrect. Maybe even give them a list of current jobs they are doing to help them? Up to you . On 27/10/2008, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking a work around id to have a html link embedded in the sms message sent so when they click it the it takes them to the action page and the link has the id etc appended to it, naturally it requires them to have web enabled phones to achieve this approach. the other alternative being to create specific wap enabled pages for them to access on their pda's however given the amount of information needed to be contained in drop down lists etc i do not see this as a viable option. Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com http://www.australianaccommodation.com/ www.SAMARIS.NET http://www.samaris.net/ www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au http://www.websitesolutions.com.au/ Mobile: 0414 228 948 On Mon Oct 27 13:15 , 'Simon Haddon' sent: I think this is a problem that all SMS gateways encounter. SMS is very basic and really only designed for simple text. You will need to get them to enter something else besides done if you want to match upagainst a specific record. Maybe you could only have 1 job given to a person at a time and once done then sned the next. On 27/10/2008, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The issue i have is that replying to an sms received will not pass any of the variables passed in the sms sent in other words if activity with id=2547 is recorded into the database and sent to a mobile via sms if the user replies back via sms the application needs to receive not only an action command eg DONE so that the action page knows to update the status of the task to DONE the action page needs to have the id=2547 also passed to it so that it knows which record it is updating, having the user manually enter the record id (which is displayed in the sms received ) in their reply sms has a huge margin for error due human miss keying / mis reading the id number and potentially causing the action page to update the wrong record in the database Comment please Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com http://www.australianaccommodation.com/ www.SAMARIS.NET http://www.samaris.net/ www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au http://www.websitesolutions.com.au/ Mobile: 0414 228 948 On Sun Oct 26 17:53 , Pat Branley sent: Hi All This is an interesting thread. Ive been thinking about building 'reply' SMS features into some websites lately myself. So basically what you are saying is the Coldfusion SMS gateway isn't really of any use for most providers since they use HTTP Get to reply anyways ? Is the coldfusion sms gatway an SMPP gatway listener ? and from what i read its complicated to get working ? Pat On Oct 27, 10:57 am, Simon Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We don't use any web connection from the mobile. As long as they can send an SMS then they are right. The email part of it is so that the consultants with email can send an SMS via their email which gets picked up and then ships it off as SMS via ValusSMS. Once we have 3000+ calls/month then we will probably go back to Mobile365. The SMS providers only accept GET and the post back via GET as well. Not much of an option there as that is how they all appear to accept it unless they provide an SMPP gateway. Cheers, Simon On 27/10/2008, Chris Ellem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Claude, Simon's approach is probably the best if it is workable. Send an email with the job parametershit that link in the email to hit the cfm page that sends the sms reply to notify the job status. Of course this solution is only workable from your mobile if you have email and internet browsing. tipkeep
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
What do the TV channels do?They can have multiple contests running at once, and all receiving entries by SMS - they dont always require you to put an ID code for the contest, or does this week's code word do that?I thought that was just to make sure you watched the tv show or bought the associated magazine. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Claude SMS is defined as Short Message Service. You cant put a link in it for people to click on as an SMS is text only. Some phones highlight numbers and that sort of thing but that's a software thing so I wouldn't depend on it. You can add a link in there but it wont be clickable. Another option is to use a 1300 number and see if it will include any other numbers after the number and still forward the message on properly. That's how they do things like 1300 STEVE ONNIS. There are too many numbers for a phone number but the service only recognises the numbers related to the phone number and connects you anyway. Maybe if you have the 1300 number push the sms to a mobile number you can include other values in the reply number. So if your reply number is 1300123123, then you could do something like 13001231239456 so 9 could be the userid and then 456 would be the jobid. When the SMS gateway gets the message with the FROM number being the 1300 number you can process the message with the message contents and the FROM number values. Just a suggestion but maybe something to look into. Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Claude SMS is defined as Short Message Service. You cant put a link in it for people to click on as an SMS is text only. Some phones highlight numbers and that sort of thing but that's a software thing so I wouldn't depend on it. You can add a link in there but it wont be clickable. Another option is to use a 1300 number and see if it will include any other numbers after the number and still forward the message on properly. That's how they do things like 1300 STEVE ONNIS. There are too many numbers for a phone number but the service only recognises the numbers related to the phone number and connects you anyway. Maybe if you have the 1300 number push the sms to a mobile number you can include other values in the reply number. So if your reply number is 1300123123, then you could do something like 13001231239456 so 9 could be the userid and then 456 would be the jobid. When the SMS gateway gets the message with the FROM number being the 1300 number you can process the message with the message contents and the FROM number values. Just a suggestion but maybe something to look into. Steve _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claude Raiola Sent: Monday, 27 October 2008 1:28 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway What if i take an alternative approach of having an embedded link in the sms sent so they click on it and the link contains the necessary data appended to the url (yes i know the limitation is the users need to have a web enabled phone / pda ) Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 On Mon Oct 27 13:22 , 'Steve Onnis' sent: Claude You NEED to pass something other than just DONE otherwise how do you know what to update? All the data you will need to use HAS TO BE in the sms message being sent back to you. There is no other way around it. _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claude Raiola Sent: Monday, 27 October 2008 12:20 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway Hi, The issue i have is that replying to an sms received will not pass any of the variables passed in the sms sent in other words if activity with id=2547 is recorded into the database and sent to a mobile via sms if the user replies back via sms the application needs to receive not only an action command eg DONE so that the action page knows to update the status of the task to DONE the action page needs to have the id=2547 also passed to it so that it knows which record it is updating, having the user manually enter the record id (which is displayed in the sms received ) in their reply sms has a huge margin for error due human miss keying / mis reading the id number and potentially causing the action page to update the wrong record in the database Comment please Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 On Sun Oct 26 17:53 , Pat Branley sent: Hi All This is an interesting thread. Ive been thinking about building 'reply' SMS features into some websites lately myself. So basically what you are saying is the Coldfusion SMS gateway isn't really of any use for most providers since they use HTTP Get to reply anyways ? Is the coldfusion sms gatway an SMPP gatway listener ? and from what i read its complicated to get working ? Pat On Oct 27, 10:57 am, Simon Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] javascript:[EMAIL PROTECTED],%27%27,%27%27,%27 %27%29 wrote: Hi, We don't use any web connection from the mobile. As long as they can send an SMS then they are right. The email part of it is so that the consultants with email can send an SMS via their email which gets picked up and then ships it off as SMS via ValusSMS. Once we have 3000+ calls/month then we will probably go back to Mobile365. The SMS providers only accept GET and the post back via GET as well. Not much of an option there as that is how they all appear to accept it unless they provide an SMPP gateway. Cheers, Simon On 27/10/2008, Chris Ellem [EMAIL PROTECTED] javascript:[EMAIL PROTECTED],%27%27,%27%27,%27%2 7%29 wrote: Hi Claude, Simon's approach is probably the best if it is workable. Send an email with the job parametershit that link in the email to hit the cfm page that sends the sms reply to notify the job status. Of course this solution is only workable from your mobile if you have email and internet browsing. tipkeep the cfm page well hidden and secure as you run the risk of hackers running scripts that continually hit this page. Not exactly what you are afterbut much better than going throught the expense of setting up SMPP and testing event gateways. Use POST not GET where possible to send your
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Yeah and you match the code up with the contest. You cant just send anything otherwise it wont register. As in Claude's instance you cant just send DONE otherwise you haven't got anything to match it with other than the senders mobile number. But a mobile number can have many projects so you need some way of matching up the project/job with the sender. -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Kear Sent: Monday, 27 October 2008 2:04 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway What do the TV channels do?They can have multiple contests running at once, and all receiving entries by SMS - they dont always require you to put an ID code for the contest, or does this week's code word do that?I thought that was just to make sure you watched the tv show or bought the associated magazine. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Claude SMS is defined as Short Message Service. You cant put a link in it for people to click on as an SMS is text only. Some phones highlight numbers and that sort of thing but that's a software thing so I wouldn't depend on it. You can add a link in there but it wont be clickable. Another option is to use a 1300 number and see if it will include any other numbers after the number and still forward the message on properly. That's how they do things like 1300 STEVE ONNIS. There are too many numbers for a phone number but the service only recognises the numbers related to the phone number and connects you anyway. Maybe if you have the 1300 number push the sms to a mobile number you can include other values in the reply number. So if your reply number is 1300123123, then you could do something like 13001231239456 so 9 could be the userid and then 456 would be the jobid. When the SMS gateway gets the message with the FROM number being the 1300 number you can process the message with the message contents and the FROM number values. Just a suggestion but maybe something to look into. Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Yeah and you match the code up with the contest. You cant just send anything otherwise it wont register. ahh so if I keyed and sent Roshani to 191010 (Australian Idol) it registers the keyword/name? and therefore the only piece of data needed (apart from who sent it?) @Claude: which prompts me to ask: is there any reason to send done anyway? if they SMS anything it'll mean that they've finished. The only data you use is which job was done, yes? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Yes that's right Same when you buy those stupid ring tones. Just send the ring tone code to the subscription service and it replies back with the ring tone for you. What Claude wants to do is have a sales person for example get an sms notification about a job, then just reply with DONE when its done. The problem is, if they get send 2 jobs, and they complete one and reply DONE, how will the system know which job has been done? It cant know unless a job code or something it passed in the message also like JOB123 DONE. -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Monday, 27 October 2008 2:46 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway Yeah and you match the code up with the contest. You cant just send anything otherwise it wont register. ahh so if I keyed and sent Roshani to 191010 (Australian Idol) it registers the keyword/name? and therefore the only piece of data needed (apart from who sent it?) @Claude: which prompts me to ask: is there any reason to send done anyway? if they SMS anything it'll mean that they've finished. The only data you use is which job was done, yes? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
IN fact he doesnt need done unless there are multiple possible outcomes (as in done, not done, couldnt find them customers an idiot so I ordered him an icecream from the Coogee Bay Hotelstuff like that. If the only notification needed is that the job's done, all the SMS would need to contain is the job number. SO his intstructions to the field guys would be just send the job number to this number when it's finished. So the field guy just sends 12345 to the inbound number. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes that's right Same when you buy those stupid ring tones. Just send the ring tone code to the subscription service and it replies back with the ring tone for you. What Claude wants to do is have a sales person for example get an sms notification about a job, then just reply with DONE when its done. The problem is, if they get send 2 jobs, and they complete one and reply DONE, how will the system know which job has been done? It cant know unless a job code or something it passed in the message also like JOB123 DONE. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
The short answer is 'yes'. The longer answer is 'yes' if you have a inbound SMS account - you'll need to send your outgoing sms from the right number, so when the guy at the other end hits 'reply' it goes to the right number. If you want to give me a call we can talk a bit about what you'll need. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 02-4577-4898 AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have created a facility within my CF application to have messages sent to maintenance staff via sms, the sms containing the details of a maintenance request. When the maintenance request is logged into the system the details of the request are added to the sql database table and given a job pending status I have been asked whether its possible to have the receiver of the sms reply to the maintenance request received once the job is complete sending a sms containing the words Done and then have that data communicated back to the cf application so the cf application can then change the status of the specific job from pending to done. Any thoughts on the possibility of being able to develop the functionality as mentioned above would be appreciated. Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Thanks Mike for your offer of the chat which when I get some free brain space time I will take you up on the offer. In the mean time could you provide some of what I need to consider in point form and or links to references that elaborate on the functionality I am seeking to provide. Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Kear Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2008 6:50 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway The short answer is 'yes'. The longer answer is 'yes' if you have a inbound SMS account - you'll need to send your outgoing sms from the right number, so when the guy at the other end hits 'reply' it goes to the right number. If you want to give me a call we can talk a bit about what you'll need. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 02-4577-4898 AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have created a facility within my CF application to have messages sent to maintenance staff via sms, the sms containing the details of a maintenance request. When the maintenance request is logged into the system the details of the request are added to the sql database table and given a job pending status I have been asked whether its possible to have the receiver of the sms reply to the maintenance request received once the job is complete sending a sms containing the words Done and then have that data communicated back to the cf application so the cf application can then change the status of the specific job from pending to done. Any thoughts on the possibility of being able to develop the functionality as mentioned above would be appreciated. Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Claude, Yes it can be done. A lot of effort to do this I assume you are using a post methodology not smpp to send your sms's. Certainly easier to send out a post sms on a change of status in your admin app, rather than mucking around with event gateways unless you are used to this. Regards Chris Ellem On Oct 22, 5:49 pm, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have created a facility within my CF application to have messages sent to maintenance staff via sms, the sms containing the details of a maintenance request. When the maintenance request is logged into the system the details of the request are added to the sql database table and given a job pending status I have been asked whether its possible to have the receiver of the sms reply to the maintenance request received once the job is complete sending a sms containing the words Done and then have that data communicated back to the cf application so the cf application can then change the status of the specific job from pending to done. Any thoughts on the possibility of being able to develop the functionality as mentioned above would be appreciated. Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948On Wed Oct 22 17:07 , 'Steve Onnis' sent:Are there images you cant use with CFIMAGE ? I am having an issue with a jog image and it just wont save. The image loads ok, resizes but when i try to write it out to the file system again it just errors saying the file doesnt exists. Well derr.. of course not, i am trying to write it. Its like the original image is there and then cf deleted it in prep to write it out again but fails. It is just on a specific image. Am happy to send the image to some people to test it.. Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Hi Chris, This is my first attempt and using SMS functionality, I have it sorted sending the information (maintenance request) entered into a cfform to the nominated mobile as an sms It’s the enhancement to that basic solution where they can reply to the sms with a key word in the sms eg Done in order to have the Done command in the reply sms activate CF code to update the status of the number maintenance request in the database from Pending to Done Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Ellem Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2008 8:04 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway Claude, Yes it can be done. A lot of effort to do this I assume you are using a post methodology not smpp to send your sms's. Certainly easier to send out a post sms on a change of status in your admin app, rather than mucking around with event gateways unless you are used to this. Regards Chris Ellem On Oct 22, 5:49 pm, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have created a facility within my CF application to have messages sent to maintenance staff via sms, the sms containing the details of a maintenance request. When the maintenance request is logged into the system the details of the request are added to the sql database table and given a job pending status I have been asked whether its possible to have the receiver of the sms reply to the maintenance request received once the job is complete sending a sms containing the words Done and then have that data communicated back to the cf application so the cf application can then change the status of the specific job from pending to done. Any thoughts on the possibility of being able to develop the functionality as mentioned above would be appreciated. Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948On Wed Oct 22 17:07 , 'Steve Onnis' sent:Are there images you cant use with CFIMAGE ? I am having an issue with a jog image and it just wont save. The image loads ok, resizes but when i try to write it out to the file system again it just errors saying the file doesnt exists. Well derr.. of course not, i am trying to write it. Its like the original image is there and then cf deleted it in prep to write it out again but fails. It is just on a specific image. Am happy to send the image to some people to test it.. Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Claude Basically what happens is who ever you are using as your sms provider should be able to provide you with a mobile number that you can reply to. When someone sends a message to that number, they trigger a http request to a file on your server containing the message contents of the sms which is then used to process the message. What you are wanting to do can only be done like this. You need your sms provider to assign you a mobile number for people to reply to. This number would then be the number you use as your from number when sending out messages. Keep in mind that when you reply to an sms, the message starts off empty so they would need to reply with the job code and the response like... JOOB1234 DONE When you get the response back you can then get the details from the sms message and update your system accordingly. You can't just have DONE in the message because obviously one person can have more than one job so you need to be able to know which job they are responding to. Just to clarify, YOU need to get your sms provider to assign you a response number for your people to send messages back to. If your SMS provider does not support this, let me know as our sms service does support it and we can set you up on our sms gateway. Steve -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claude Raiola Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2008 9:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway Hi Chris, This is my first attempt and using SMS functionality, I have it sorted sending the information (maintenance request) entered into a cfform to the nominated mobile as an sms It’s the enhancement to that basic solution where they can reply to the sms with a key word in the sms eg Done in order to have the Done command in the reply sms activate CF code to update the status of the number maintenance request in the database from Pending to Done Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Ellem Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2008 8:04 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway Claude, Yes it can be done. A lot of effort to do this I assume you are using a post methodology not smpp to send your sms's. Certainly easier to send out a post sms on a change of status in your admin app, rather than mucking around with event gateways unless you are used to this. Regards Chris Ellem On Oct 22, 5:49 pm, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have created a facility within my CF application to have messages sent to maintenance staff via sms, the sms containing the details of a maintenance request. When the maintenance request is logged into the system the details of the request are added to the sql database table and given a job pending status I have been asked whether its possible to have the receiver of the sms reply to the maintenance request received once the job is complete sending a sms containing the words Done and then have that data communicated back to the cf application so the cf application can then change the status of the specific job from pending to done. Any thoughts on the possibility of being able to develop the functionality as mentioned above would be appreciated. Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948On Wed Oct 22 17:07 , 'Steve Onnis' sent:Are there images you cant use with CFIMAGE ? I am having an issue with a jog image and it just wont save. The image loads ok, resizes but when i try to write it out to the file system again it just errors saying the file doesnt exists. Well derr.. of course not, i am trying to write it. Its like the original image is there and then cf deleted it in prep to write it out again but fails. It is just on a specific image. Am happy to send the image to some people to test it.. Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Exactly how you do it depends on how your provider sends you the message.I have one provider that sends messages to me by email, and another by an xml packet. Then there's SMPP. Typically they tell you how they're going to send it, or give you an option of 1 or 2 methods. Thats why I needed to talk to you. Basically you do a deal with a provider, e.g. Optus, Telstra (if you're a thrillseeker - i dont do any business with Telstra) or any of a whole host of others in Australia or overseas. (Technically you can use an overseas provider - they're just as fast delivering the messages but the people sending SMS's to you will have to dial an overseas number. So overseas providers are ok for outgoing messages but you really need a local provider for inbound.) They give you a number that people can send messages to. That's the number you have to put on your outgoing message as the from number. Then they hit 'reply' and send a message which comes to you though that number, in whatever format the provider sends. You have a listener on your website listening to that number, rather like the way you have a web server listening for http requests from browsers. It receives the message and you can process it anyway you want. It can trigger other actions, add stuff to you database, send emails, send out more smss, whatever you like. The tricky bit is the listener - thats the bit where you have some learning to do. Everything else about this application is no different to you've been doing on you web sites up to now. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 02-4577-4898 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Mike for your offer of the chat which when I get some free brain space time I will take you up on the offer. In the mean time could you provide some of what I need to consider in point form and or links to references that elaborate on the functionality I am seeking to provide. Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Thanks for that, Is the listener a standard set of code list a listener cfc so to speak Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 On Thu Oct 23 10:45 , 'Mike Kear' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: Exactly how you do it depends on how your provider sends you the message.I have one provider that sends messages to me by email, and another by an xml packet. Then there's SMPP. Typically they tell you how they're going to send it, or give you an option of 1 or 2 methods. Thats why I needed to talk to you. Basically you do a deal with a provider, e.g. Optus, Telstra (if you're a thrillseeker - i dont do any business with Telstra) or any of a whole host of others in Australia or overseas. (Technically you can use an overseas provider - they're just as fast delivering the messages but the people sending SMS's to you will have to dial an overseas number. So overseas providers are ok for outgoing messages but you really need a local provider for inbound.) They give you a number that people can send messages to. That's the number you have to put on your outgoing message as the "from" number. Then they hit 'reply' and send a message which comes to you though that number, in whatever format the provider sends. You have a listener on your website listening to that number, rather like the way you have a web server listening for http requests from browsers. It receives the message and you can process it anyway you want. It can trigger other actions, add stuff to you database, send emails, send out more smss, whatever you like. The tricky bit is the listener - thats the bit where you have some learning to do. Everything else about this application is no different to you've been doing on you web sites up to now. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 02-4577-4898 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Mike for your offer of the chat which when I get some free brain space time I will take you up on the offer. In the mean time could you provide some of what I need to consider in point form and or links to references that elaborate on the functionality I am seeking to provide. Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 ) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF SMS Gateway
Hi, My company develops a system to keep travellers aware of their flight details and other associated information. The communication is 2 way. from server to mobile and visa versa. we also have developed an email to sms gateway on top of the main messaging system. We hav euse Mobile365 and are now using Street Data as they are alot cheaper. The actual sending and receiving is done via a GET url request and is encapsulated so that changing service providers isn't too much of a pain. Having said that. Every service provider has their own quircks and these are not always documented which makes programming interesting. Things like unicode, message length, message length for multi part messages, etc. It is certainly possible. The main thign about your situation is making sure that anyone replying to your system sends some soft of identifier to ensure that the right job is closed off. Also, you want to put transparent security in place as other people migh try and hack through your SMS system. One thign we do is not allow a SMS to be received unless it it in receipt to a sent SMS or a registered user. There are oter things that can also be done. I hope that helps a bit. Cheers, Simon On 22/10/2008, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have created a facility within my CF application to have messages sent to maintenance staff via sms, the sms containing the details of a maintenance request. When the maintenance request is logged into the system the details of the request are added to the sql database table and given a job pending status I have been asked whether its possible to have the receiver of the sms reply to the maintenance request received once the job is complete sending a sms containing the words Done and then have that data communicated back to the cf application so the cf application can then change the status of the specific job from pending to done. Any thoughts on the possibility of being able to develop the functionality as mentioned above would be appreciated. Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com http://www.australianaccommodation.com/ www.SAMARIS.NET http://www.samaris.net/ www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au http://www.websitesolutions.com.au/ Mobile: 0414 228 948 On Wed Oct 22 17:07 , 'Steve Onnis' sent: Are there images you cant use with CFIMAGE ? I am having an issue with a jog image and it just wont save. The image loads ok, resizes but when i try to write it out to the file system again it just errors saying the file doesnt exists. Well derr.. of course not, i am trying to write it. Its like the original image is there and then cf deleted it in prep to write it out again but fails. It is just on a specific image. Am happy to send the image to some people to test it.. Steve -- Cheers Simon Haddon Woman loves feeling danger and speed. That is why woman wants man. They get a speed rush that is the most dangerous of all. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
