[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
Besides the fact that most of the software Australia gets is packaged in Asia (mainly Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand at the moment), and I believe most of the software in the US is either in Asia or in Central and South America. Hence no matter how much the US gets it for, Aus should get it at a similar price too... This does not only apply to software by the way, plenty of other types of goods have the same sort of price 'inflation' in Australia. What is more shocking is that not enough people are asking why, and too many are just paying the shelf prices. On Dec 13, 9:28 pm, "Andrew Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Boxed or not. > > Adobe or others have the ability to bring the product into Australia > at cost, not to mention that it might also be chaper to package > locally. So import and duties etc really do not play aprt in this at > all. > > Now as I said A current Affair ran a story a short while ago about > retailers profiting on the strong dollar, forcing our interest rate up > because they are getting richer and making the economy stronger. > > There is no argument at all, like I said I bought a 160gig ipod, that > retails here for $477 (AUD) by it from apple it is $390.00 or was when > I bought it. Had it shipped by a friend at a grand total of $400.00 > (AUD) > > So did I pay duty? Did I pay anything but postage, there is a little > known fact that companies (Know this from the games industry) lie > about the true value of the package to avoid all this. > > I mean I rememebr 10 x Playstation development kits in 1990 come into > the country at a value of $25,000 (aud) go down as being worth $10 to > avoid such duties / taxes. > > If you think that a company the size of Adobe can;t do the same you a > wrong, they already do. And profit from our ignorance, or lack of > ability to stand up to them. > > Remember been down this road before when Vista was released, the ACCC > is looking into this practice by business / companies. > > On 12/13/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I agree the downloaded product is what we are discussing here, a boxed > > product is a different story. > > > Its not like anyone is trying to rip off Adobe or do an injustice to the > > Australian market, but there are heaps of products now that you can only buy > > online, and heaps of others that allow you to buy online regardless of your > > location. > > > I know I purchase a lot of software this way in downloadable format, a lot > > of which I wouldn't even be able to find in a box anywhere. So I think its a > > change in thinking, I'm going to buy it online and look for the best deal I > > can. > > > Regards > > Dale Fraser > > >http://learncf.com > > -- > Senior Coldfusion Developer > Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au > Phone: +613 8676 4223 > Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
Boxed or not. Adobe or others have the ability to bring the product into Australia at cost, not to mention that it might also be chaper to package locally. So import and duties etc really do not play aprt in this at all. Now as I said A current Affair ran a story a short while ago about retailers profiting on the strong dollar, forcing our interest rate up because they are getting richer and making the economy stronger. There is no argument at all, like I said I bought a 160gig ipod, that retails here for $477 (AUD) by it from apple it is $390.00 or was when I bought it. Had it shipped by a friend at a grand total of $400.00 (AUD) So did I pay duty? Did I pay anything but postage, there is a little known fact that companies (Know this from the games industry) lie about the true value of the package to avoid all this. I mean I rememebr 10 x Playstation development kits in 1990 come into the country at a value of $25,000 (aud) go down as being worth $10 to avoid such duties / taxes. If you think that a company the size of Adobe can;t do the same you a wrong, they already do. And profit from our ignorance, or lack of ability to stand up to them. Remember been down this road before when Vista was released, the ACCC is looking into this practice by business / companies. On 12/13/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree the downloaded product is what we are discussing here, a boxed > product is a different story. > > Its not like anyone is trying to rip off Adobe or do an injustice to the > Australian market, but there are heaps of products now that you can only buy > online, and heaps of others that allow you to buy online regardless of your > location. > > I know I purchase a lot of software this way in downloadable format, a lot > of which I wouldn't even be able to find in a box anywhere. So I think its a > change in thinking, I'm going to buy it online and look for the best deal I > can. > > Regards > Dale Fraser > > http://learncf.com -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
I agree the downloaded product is what we are discussing here, a boxed product is a different story. Its not like anyone is trying to rip off Adobe or do an injustice to the Australian market, but there are heaps of products now that you can only buy online, and heaps of others that allow you to buy online regardless of your location. I know I purchase a lot of software this way in downloadable format, a lot of which I wouldn't even be able to find in a box anywhere. So I think its a change in thinking, I'm going to buy it online and look for the best deal I can. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guennadi M Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2007 1:36 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase Download products don't attract customs duty, insurance, shipping or gst. Adobe obviously don't pay any of the above. Why not let AU customers use USD pricing or use live exchange rate (make the conversion at the gateway/bank level at the checkout)?? GM On 12/12/07, Kai Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for being a voice of reason in this discussion, Barry. > > You're so 100% right - people who bugger of buying through > "a friend of a friend of a friend who lives in the US" to save > x AU$/NZ$ in fact should keep their voices pretty much down > when it comes to topics such as "Why isn't my local Adobe > office not doing X/Y/Z etc ?" in the future. > > Just looked up the "current" $ figures of that thread. > > If the figure of US$1200 is correct, that (as of right > now) coverts to AU$1353. As the pricing of US$1200 is > without any sales tax, let's look at the actual cost of > importing a physical product with the value of US$1200: > > Customs value (Cval) > 1353.00 > > Customs duty (Duty) @ 5% of Cval > 77.65 (Payable) > > International transport and insurance or postage (T&I) > ???, let's assume it's 50.00 dollars > > Value of the Taxable Importation (VoTI) (Cval+Duty+T&I) > 1480.65 > > Goods and Services Tax (GST) @ 10 per cent of the VoTI > 148.07 (Payable) > > Total payable Duty + GST > 225.72 > > That means your REAL cost for importing the product are AU$1578.72 > NOT including the assumed AU$50.00 for T&I (those have just > been used for the GST calculation). Oh, also don't forget > that if you pay with an AU credit card in the US, there > probably will be something like 1-3% additional foreign > currency use charges from your CC company. > > I can't really say anything to the figure of AU$1700 which was > mentioned, but if the latter is true, we're not too far off > anymore, are we? > > Oh, btw: Don't think you can fool the tax people with arguing > that you're not actually importing anything by downloading > stuff and getting an electronic license key. Both AU and NZ > have tax regulations for so called reverse GST charging and > duty in such a scenario, i.e. if you want to do it the proper > way and avoid any trouble with potential tax evasion in an > audit, you won't get around paying it :) > > Look, I'm not trying to convince anyone to buy locally, > do whatever you think is right. But at least compare apples > with apples and do the maths before you jump on any > cheapish-sounding price in US$, really. > > Cheers, > Kai > > > > >I wonder if buying in Australia has benefits other than price? > > > >I mean, that there's an Adobe Australia office here in Australia, New > >Zealand now has it's own "Adobe man on the ground" and there's even > >dedicated ColdFusion people (eg Mark Blair who put on the recent > >CFCAMP around the country). > > > >I'm thinking it may be hard to justify another CFCAMP if Australian > >sales are actually U.S sales. > > > >I'm just guessing, OK? I'm not an Adobe reseller... > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
Download products don't attract customs duty, insurance, shipping or gst. Adobe obviously don't pay any of the above. Why not let AU customers use USD pricing or use live exchange rate (make the conversion at the gateway/bank level at the checkout)?? GM On 12/12/07, Kai Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for being a voice of reason in this discussion, Barry. > > You're so 100% right - people who bugger of buying through > "a friend of a friend of a friend who lives in the US" to save > x AU$/NZ$ in fact should keep their voices pretty much down > when it comes to topics such as "Why isn't my local Adobe > office not doing X/Y/Z etc ?" in the future. > > Just looked up the "current" $ figures of that thread. > > If the figure of US$1200 is correct, that (as of right > now) coverts to AU$1353. As the pricing of US$1200 is > without any sales tax, let's look at the actual cost of > importing a physical product with the value of US$1200: > > Customs value (Cval) > 1353.00 > > Customs duty (Duty) @ 5% of Cval > 77.65 (Payable) > > International transport and insurance or postage (T&I) > ???, let's assume it's 50.00 dollars > > Value of the Taxable Importation (VoTI) (Cval+Duty+T&I) > 1480.65 > > Goods and Services Tax (GST) @ 10 per cent of the VoTI > 148.07 (Payable) > > Total payable Duty + GST > 225.72 > > That means your REAL cost for importing the product are AU$1578.72 > NOT including the assumed AU$50.00 for T&I (those have just > been used for the GST calculation). Oh, also don't forget > that if you pay with an AU credit card in the US, there > probably will be something like 1-3% additional foreign > currency use charges from your CC company. > > I can't really say anything to the figure of AU$1700 which was > mentioned, but if the latter is true, we're not too far off > anymore, are we? > > Oh, btw: Don't think you can fool the tax people with arguing > that you're not actually importing anything by downloading > stuff and getting an electronic license key. Both AU and NZ > have tax regulations for so called reverse GST charging and > duty in such a scenario, i.e. if you want to do it the proper > way and avoid any trouble with potential tax evasion in an > audit, you won't get around paying it :) > > Look, I'm not trying to convince anyone to buy locally, > do whatever you think is right. But at least compare apples > with apples and do the maths before you jump on any > cheapish-sounding price in US$, really. > > Cheers, > Kai > > > > >I wonder if buying in Australia has benefits other than price? > > > >I mean, that there's an Adobe Australia office here in Australia, New > >Zealand now has it's own "Adobe man on the ground" and there's even > >dedicated ColdFusion people (eg Mark Blair who put on the recent > >CFCAMP around the country). > > > >I'm thinking it may be hard to justify another CFCAMP if Australian > >sales are actually U.S sales. > > > >I'm just guessing, OK? I'm not an Adobe reseller... > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
Thanks for being a voice of reason in this discussion, Barry. You're so 100% right - people who bugger of buying through "a friend of a friend of a friend who lives in the US" to save x AU$/NZ$ in fact should keep their voices pretty much down when it comes to topics such as "Why isn't my local Adobe office not doing X/Y/Z etc ?" in the future. Just looked up the "current" $ figures of that thread. If the figure of US$1200 is correct, that (as of right now) coverts to AU$1353. As the pricing of US$1200 is without any sales tax, let's look at the actual cost of importing a physical product with the value of US$1200: Customs value (Cval) 1353.00 Customs duty (Duty) @ 5% of Cval 77.65 (Payable) International transport and insurance or postage (T&I) ???, let's assume it's 50.00 dollars Value of the Taxable Importation (VoTI) (Cval+Duty+T&I) 1480.65 Goods and Services Tax (GST) @ 10 per cent of the VoTI 148.07 (Payable) Total payable Duty + GST 225.72 That means your REAL cost for importing the product are AU$1578.72 NOT including the assumed AU$50.00 for T&I (those have just been used for the GST calculation). Oh, also don't forget that if you pay with an AU credit card in the US, there probably will be something like 1-3% additional foreign currency use charges from your CC company. I can't really say anything to the figure of AU$1700 which was mentioned, but if the latter is true, we're not too far off anymore, are we? Oh, btw: Don't think you can fool the tax people with arguing that you're not actually importing anything by downloading stuff and getting an electronic license key. Both AU and NZ have tax regulations for so called reverse GST charging and duty in such a scenario, i.e. if you want to do it the proper way and avoid any trouble with potential tax evasion in an audit, you won't get around paying it :) Look, I'm not trying to convince anyone to buy locally, do whatever you think is right. But at least compare apples with apples and do the maths before you jump on any cheapish-sounding price in US$, really. Cheers, Kai >I wonder if buying in Australia has benefits other than price? > >I mean, that there's an Adobe Australia office here in Australia, New >Zealand now has it's own "Adobe man on the ground" and there's even >dedicated ColdFusion people (eg Mark Blair who put on the recent >CFCAMP around the country). > >I'm thinking it may be hard to justify another CFCAMP if Australian >sales are actually U.S sales. > >I'm just guessing, OK? I'm not an Adobe reseller... > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
>In fact A Current Affair ran a story last week on this, w0w, Coldfusion really has taken off in OZ lately --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
Plus, All you really need is the serial, so no shipping at all as soon as you order in US you can get the serial emailed. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 1:32 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase I no longer buy from Australia anymore, for that exact reason. I have a friend in the states that ships it on to me and with postage it is so much cheaper than here. In fact A Current Affair ran a story last week on this, because the fact is that while most shops profit from the extra cash from the strong dollar. In the long run it is going to throw interest rates even higher. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 12:49 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase Not a 100% fair comparison due to Duty and GST. PS: People who sell it in AU might think it's bad if you purchase direct from the US, but in reality this is happening everywhere. People are buying direct with low freight and a good $AU its very common, and not just for software. Regards Dale Fraser From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 11:47 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion 8 purchase What is the current price on purchasing Coldfusion 8 Standard, from adobe it is approx $1200 USD but they want $1700 (AUD) which is a rip off when the conversion rate should bring it down to around $1300 (AUD) approx. We are ready to purchase now, so anyone know a great place to purchase at a reasonable price. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
Yeah that's what I am thinking too. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 12:52 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase Also, If you can get your hands on an earlier version, an upgrade is even better value. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 12:22 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase Yeah but with the AUD the way it is $1300 is the correct conversion price. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taco Fleur Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 11:57 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase $1700 Thats about right, I can go below that. On 12/12/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What is the current price on purchasing Coldfusion 8 Standard, from adobe it is approx $1200 USD but they want $1700 (AUD) which is a rip off when the conversion rate should bring it down to around $1300 (AUD) approx. We are ready to purchase now, so anyone know a great place to purchase at a reasonable price. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au <http://www.aegeon.com.au/> Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 www.clickfind.com.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
I no longer buy from Australia anymore, for that exact reason. I have a friend in the states that ships it on to me and with postage it is so much cheaper than here. In fact A Current Affair ran a story last week on this, because the fact is that while most shops profit from the extra cash from the strong dollar. In the long run it is going to throw interest rates even higher. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 12:49 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase Not a 100% fair comparison due to Duty and GST. PS: People who sell it in AU might think it's bad if you purchase direct from the US, but in reality this is happening everywhere. People are buying direct with low freight and a good $AU its very common, and not just for software. Regards Dale Fraser From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 11:47 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion 8 purchase What is the current price on purchasing Coldfusion 8 Standard, from adobe it is approx $1200 USD but they want $1700 (AUD) which is a rip off when the conversion rate should bring it down to around $1300 (AUD) approx. We are ready to purchase now, so anyone know a great place to purchase at a reasonable price. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
Also, If you can get your hands on an earlier version, an upgrade is even better value. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 12:22 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase Yeah but with the AUD the way it is $1300 is the correct conversion price. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taco Fleur Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 11:57 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase $1700 Thats about right, I can go below that. On 12/12/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What is the current price on purchasing Coldfusion 8 Standard, from adobe it is approx $1200 USD but they want $1700 (AUD) which is a rip off when the conversion rate should bring it down to around $1300 (AUD) approx. We are ready to purchase now, so anyone know a great place to purchase at a reasonable price. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au <http://www.aegeon.com.au/> Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 www.clickfind.com.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
Not a 100% fair comparison due to Duty and GST. PS: People who sell it in AU might think it's bad if you purchase direct from the US, but in reality this is happening everywhere. People are buying direct with low freight and a good $AU its very common, and not just for software. Regards Dale Fraser From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 11:47 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion 8 purchase What is the current price on purchasing Coldfusion 8 Standard, from adobe it is approx $1200 USD but they want $1700 (AUD) which is a rip off when the conversion rate should bring it down to around $1300 (AUD) approx. We are ready to purchase now, so anyone know a great place to purchase at a reasonable price. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
I wonder if buying in Australia has benefits other than price? I mean, that there's an Adobe Australia office here in Australia, New Zealand now has it's own "Adobe man on the ground" and there's even dedicated ColdFusion people (eg Mark Blair who put on the recent CFCAMP around the country). I'm thinking it may be hard to justify another CFCAMP if Australian sales are actually U.S sales. I'm just guessing, OK? I'm not an Adobe reseller... On Dec 12, 2007 11:49 AM, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Not a 100% fair comparison due to Duty and GST. > > > > PS: People who sell it in AU might think it's bad if you purchase direct > from the US, but in reality this is happening everywhere. People are buying > direct with low freight and a good $AU its very common, and not just for > software. > > > > > Regards > > Dale Fraser > > > > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Andrew Scott > Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 11:47 AM > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion 8 purchase > > > > > > What is the current price on purchasing Coldfusion 8 Standard, from adobe it > is approx $1200 USD but they want $1700 (AUD) which is a rip off when the > conversion rate should bring it down to around $1300 (AUD) approx. > > > > We are ready to purchase now, so anyone know a great place to purchase at a > reasonable price. > > > > > > Andrew Scott > Senior Coldfusion Developer > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > www.aegeon.com.au > Phone: +613 8676 4223 > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
In the past (pre CF8), on macromedia site, you used to be able to buy CF from the American shop and pay USD. Currency exchange is a business on its own now. On 12/12/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Yeah but with the AUD the way it is $1300 is the correct conversion price. > > > > > > Andrew Scott > Senior Coldfusion Developer > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > www.aegeon.com.au > Phone: +613 8676 4223 > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > > > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Taco Fleur > Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 11:57 AM > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase > > > > > $1700 Thats about right, I can go below that. > > > On 12/12/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What is the current price on purchasing Coldfusion 8 Standard, from adobe it > is approx $1200 USD but they want $1700 (AUD) which is a rip off when the > conversion rate should bring it down to around $1300 (AUD) approx. > > > > We are ready to purchase now, so anyone know a great place to purchase at a > reasonable price. > > > > > > Andrew Scott > Senior Coldfusion Developer > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > www.aegeon.com.au > Phone: +613 8676 4223 > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > > > > > www.clickfind.com.au > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
Yeah but with the AUD the way it is $1300 is the correct conversion price. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taco Fleur Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2007 11:57 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase $1700 Thats about right, I can go below that. On 12/12/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What is the current price on purchasing Coldfusion 8 Standard, from adobe it is approx $1200 USD but they want $1700 (AUD) which is a rip off when the conversion rate should bring it down to around $1300 (AUD) approx. We are ready to purchase now, so anyone know a great place to purchase at a reasonable price. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au <http://www.aegeon.com.au/> Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 www.clickfind.com.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 purchase
$1700 Thats about right, I can go below that. On 12/12/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is the current price on purchasing Coldfusion 8 Standard, from adobe > it is approx $1200 USD but they want $1700 (AUD) which is a rip off when the > conversion rate should bring it down to around $1300 (AUD) approx. > > > > We are ready to purchase now, so anyone know a great place to purchase at > a reasonable price. > > > > > > Andrew Scott > Senior Coldfusion Developer > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > www.aegeon.com.au > Phone: +613 8676 4223 > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > > > > > > > -- >>> http://www.clickfind.com.au Looking for a business, product or service? Try the new Australian search engine www.clickfind.com.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
