[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-02 Thread cyberetto 

DPI Direct have good prices: http://www.dpidirect.com.au/

On Aug 2, 3:10 pm, "Steve Onnis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just want to make sure i get the best price possible
>
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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-02 Thread Joel 
Hi Guys,

 

Is they a pay by the month scheme offered by anyone on the list ?

I have seen www.ht.com.au (Harries Technology) offer something like this,
similar to MS SPLA.

 

Also what is required to run CF 8 on VPS's, from my understanding the CF lic
is per physical processor, hence a single lic (Std/Ent) can be installed a
number of times on a physical server with multiple VPS's, 

 

Open for corrections. 

 

Joel

 

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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Mark Blair
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2007 1:43 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
Announced

 

Steve,

 

Adobe sells ColdFusion in Australia under a channel model.  Briefly the
mechanics of this are

 

1.  Adobe sells ColdFusion to distributors (the primary ones in
Australia being Express Data and Ingram Micro) 
2.  Resellers buy ColdFusion from distributors 
3.  Resellers sell ColdFusion to end users. 

 

The only control point Adobe has is the price they sell ColdFusion to
distributors.  After this point naturally distributors make their margin and
so do resellers.  

 

All this means you are likely to see a large range of prices for the same
software and Adobe has no control over this.  I hope this helps you
understand the differences you are seeing.  

 

I'd be happy to discuss this further with anyone who has further queries 

 

Best

Mark

 

Technical Director, Pacific 

Adobe Systems

 

 

 

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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 1:09 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
Announced

 

How is it that yours are cheaper than Rocketboots?

 

  _  

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Taco Fleur
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2007 1:00 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
Announced

May I add to that with the following info;

 

ColdFusion MX8 Pricing

New license
Commercial license, ColdFusion MX8 Standard 
$1699 Inc. GST

Commercial license, ColdFusion MX8 Enterprise 
$9500 Inc. GST

Upgrade
Commercial license, upgrade to ColdFusion MX8 Standard from 7
$850 Inc. GST

Commercial license, upgrade to ColdFusion MX8 Enterprise from 7 
$4300 Inc. GST


Support & Installation

Charged per hour, basic installations are normally 2 hours
$110 Inc. GST


Hosting

Virtual and Dedicated Servers in Australia and Canada
>From $250 a month Inc. GST

We can also include official licenses in the hosting cost.


Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a customized quote on hosting or discount
on bulk orders.

*Prices are quoted in Australian dollars and subject to change without
notice, call 1800 032 982 for updated pricing


 

On 8/1/07, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:


 

http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry
<http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=213A7FF9-9D02
-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4> &entry=213A7FF9-9D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4 


 

And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to go
on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features and keep
the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should pay me to use
ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to another thread. 

 

Thanks,

Robin





 


 

Robin Hilliard

 

CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited

Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training

 <http://www.rocketboots.com.au/> http://www.rocketboots.com.au 

 

m +61 418 414 341

e [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 



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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-02 Thread Mark Blair 
 

I think product management will love this suggestion; I'll forward it to
Tim Buntel straight away. :-) 

 



From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of M@ Bourke
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:48 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
Announced

 

Maybe Adobe should allow Australian as a language option to make up for
the price difference. 

for example when ya get a error it would say 
"crikey!!, look at this little beauty"
and instead of saying a page took 15 seconds it would just say in bright
red "Struth!!" 



On 8/3/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Lol...

 

$10k for a Coldfusion 8 license purchased in Australia, compared to
$8.7k from Adobe USA

 

Makes you wonder...

 

 



Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273

 

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Robin Hilliard
Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2007 9:58 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
Announced

 

Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:

 

http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=213A7FF9-9
D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4

 

And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to
go on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features
and keep the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should
pay me to use ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to
another thread.

 

Thanks,

Robin

 

 

Robin Hilliard

 

CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited

Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training

http://www.rocketboots.com.au <http://www.rocketboots.com.au> 

 

m +61 418 414 341

e [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 

 

 





 





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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-02 Thread Andrew Scott 
Lol,

 

Now that would be hilarious to adopt into any application...

 



Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273

 

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of M@ Bourke
Sent: Friday, 3 August 2007 9:48 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
Announced

 

Maybe Adobe should allow Australian as a language option to make up for the
price difference. 

for example when ya get a error it would say 
"crikey!!, look at this little beauty"
and instead of saying a page took 15 seconds it would just say in bright red
"Struth!!" 



On 8/3/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Lol...

 

$10k for a Coldfusion 8 license purchased in Australia, compared to $8.7k
from Adobe USA

 

Makes you wonder...

 

 



Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273

 

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Robin Hilliard
Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2007 9:58 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

 

Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:

 

http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry
<http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=213A7FF9-9D02
-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4> &entry=213A7FF9-9D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4

 

And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to go
on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features and keep
the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should pay me to use
ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to another thread.

 

Thanks,

Robin

 

 

Robin Hilliard

 

CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited

Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training

 <http://www.rocketboots.com.au> http://www.rocketboots.com.au 

 

m +61 418 414 341

e [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 

 

 

 

 





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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-02 Thread M@ Bourke 
Maybe Adobe should allow Australian as a language option to make up for the
price difference.

for example when ya get a error it would say
"crikey!!, look at this little beauty"
and instead of saying a page took 15 seconds it would just say in bright red
"Struth!!"


On 8/3/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Lol...
>
>
>
> $10k for a Coldfusion 8 license purchased in Australia, compared to $8.7k
> from Adobe USA
>
>
>
> Makes you wonder...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Andrew Scott
> Senior Coldfusion Developer
> Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
> www.aegeon.com.au
> Phone: +613  8676 4223
> Mobile: 0404 998 273
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> Behalf Of *Robin Hilliard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 August 2007 9:58 PM
> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [cfaussie] Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
> Announced
>
>
>
> Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=213A7FF9-9D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4
>
>
>
> And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
> Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to
> go on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features and
> keep the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should pay me to
> use ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to another thread.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robin
>
>
>
>
>
> Robin Hilliard
>
>
>
> CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited
>
> Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training
>
> http://www.rocketboots.com.au
>
>
>
> m +61 418 414 341
>
> e [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-02 Thread Andrew Scott 
Lol...

 

$10k for a Coldfusion 8 license purchased in Australia, compared to $8.7k
from Adobe USA

 

Makes you wonder...

 

 



Andrew Scott
Senior Coldfusion Developer
Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
www.aegeon.com.au
Phone: +613  8676 4223
Mobile: 0404 998 273

 

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Robin Hilliard
Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2007 9:58 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

 

Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:

 

http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry
 &entry=213A7FF9-9D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4

 

And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to go
on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features and keep
the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should pay me to use
ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to another thread.

 

Thanks,

Robin



 

 

Robin Hilliard

 

CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited

Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training

  http://www.rocketboots.com.au

 

m +61 418 414 341

e [EMAIL PROTECTED]








 


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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-02 Thread Taco Fleur 
OK, I was almost going to make a really good come back on this one, but I
won't. I'll let your imagination do the rest ;-) I'm sure Pam would not have
liked it if I did.


On 8/2/07, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  On 02/08/2007, at 1:09 PM, Steve Onnis wrote:
>
> How is it that yours are cheaper than Rocketboots?
>
>
>
> Pam has to eat - Taco always has an edible name at least :)
>
>
>
>
>
> Robin Hilliard
>
> CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited
> Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training
> http://www.rocketboots.com.au
>
> m +61 418 414 341
> e [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
> >
>


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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-02 Thread Robin Hilliard 
On 02/08/2007, at 1:09 PM, Steve Onnis wrote:
> How is it that yours are cheaper than Rocketboots?

Pam has to eat - Taco always has an edible name at least :)




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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-02 Thread Robin Hilliard 
On 02/08/2007, at 11:05 AM, Dale Fraser wrote:
> I have to ask however, if you can announce Channel pricing and we  
> are comparing that to US retail, is there US Chanel pricing also,  
> meaning people in the US get it even cheaper again. I see that  
> Amazon is only marginally less expensive than the Adobe store.

Yes, that should be the case - without checking I'd assume that a  
reseller in the US charging the same margin as us would be about 10%  
cheaper because of GST.

Mind you - I'd encourage you to buy it in Australia, as (a) you get  
to contribute to hospitals, roads and other useful after-market  
ColdFusion add-ons and (b) the sale is recorded here, which makes the  
local CF community look better and helps Tim convince Adobe finance  
that these trips out to WebDU are worthwhile and not just an  
opportunity to be molested by a "hornbag" at the conference dinner...

Robin




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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-01 Thread Taco Fleur 
Unboxed, add approx. $30 - $40 for the Media

On 8/2/07, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  are they boxed or unboxed prices??
>
>  --
> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> Behalf Of *Taco Fleur
> *Sent:* Thursday, 2 August 2007 1:00 PM
> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
> Announced
>
>
>  May I add to that with the following info;
>
> *ColdFusion MX8 Pricing*
>
> New license
> Commercial license, ColdFusion MX8 Standard
> $1699 Inc. GST
>
> Commercial license, ColdFusion MX8 Enterprise
> $9500 Inc. GST
>
> Upgrade
> Commercial license, upgrade to ColdFusion MX8 Standard from 7
> $850 Inc. GST
>
> Commercial license, upgrade to ColdFusion MX8 Enterprise from 7
> $4300 Inc. GST
>
>
> Support & Installation
>
> Charged per hour, basic installations are normally 2 hours
> $110 Inc. GST
>
>
> Hosting
>
> Virtual and Dedicated Servers in Australia and Canada
> From $250 a month Inc. GST
>
> We can also include official licenses in the hosting cost.
>
>
> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a customized quote on hosting or
> discount on bulk orders.
>
> *Prices are quoted in Australian dollars and subject to change without
> notice, call 1800 032 982 for updated pricing
>
>
>  On 8/1/07, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:
> >
> >
> > http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=213A7FF9-9D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4
> >
> >
> >
> > And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
> > Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to
> > go on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features and
> > keep the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should pay me to
> > use ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to another thread.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Robin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Robin Hilliard
> >
> > CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited
> > Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training
> > http://www.rocketboots.com.au
> >
> > m +61 418 414 341
> > e [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.clickfind.com.au
> > The new Australian search engine for businesses, products and services
> > *** Virtual and Dedicated Servers with MS SQL from $250 a month
> > *** Virtual and Dedicated Servers with registered version of ColdFusion
> > from $350 a month
> > *** ColdFusion licenses at the lowest price
> > > >
> >


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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-01 Thread Steve Onnis 
are they boxed or unboxed prices??

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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Taco Fleur
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2007 1:00 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
Announced


May I add to that with the following info;
 
ColdFusion MX8 Pricing

New license
Commercial license, ColdFusion MX8 Standard 
$1699 Inc. GST

Commercial license, ColdFusion MX8 Enterprise 
$9500 Inc. GST

Upgrade
Commercial license, upgrade to ColdFusion MX8 Standard from 7
$850 Inc. GST

Commercial license, upgrade to ColdFusion MX8 Enterprise from 7 
$4300 Inc. GST


Support & Installation

Charged per hour, basic installations are normally 2 hours
$110 Inc. GST


Hosting

Virtual and Dedicated Servers in Australia and Canada
>From $250 a month Inc. GST

We can also include official licenses in the hosting cost.


Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a customized quote on hosting or discount
on bulk orders.

*Prices are quoted in Australian dollars and subject to change without
notice, call 1800 032 982 for updated pricing


 
On 8/1/07, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:

 
http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry
<http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=213A7FF9-9D02
-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4> &entry=213A7FF9-9D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4 


 
And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to go
on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features and keep
the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should pay me to use
ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to another thread. 


Thanks,
Robin


 


 
Robin Hilliard


CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited
Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training
 <http://www.rocketboots.com.au/> http://www.rocketboots.com.au 


m +61 418 414 341
e [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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The new Australian search engine for businesses, products and services 
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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-01 Thread Steve Onnis 
I just want to make sure i get the best price possible

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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Mark Blair
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2007 1:43 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
Announced



Steve,

 

Adobe sells ColdFusion in Australia under a channel model.  Briefly the
mechanics of this are

 

1.  Adobe sells ColdFusion to distributors (the primary ones in
Australia being Express Data and Ingram Micro) 

2.  Resellers buy ColdFusion from distributors 

3.  Resellers sell ColdFusion to end users. 

 

The only control point Adobe has is the price they sell ColdFusion to
distributors.  After this point naturally distributors make their margin and
so do resellers.  

 

All this means you are likely to see a large range of prices for the same
software and Adobe has no control over this.  I hope this helps you
understand the differences you are seeing.  

 

I'd be happy to discuss this further with anyone who has further queries 

 

Best

Mark

 

Technical Director, Pacific 

Adobe Systems

 

 

 

  _  

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 1:09 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
Announced

 

How is it that yours are cheaper than Rocketboots?

 

  _  

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Taco Fleur
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2007 1:00 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
Announced

May I add to that with the following info;

 

ColdFusion MX8 Pricing

New license
Commercial license, ColdFusion MX8 Standard 
$1699 Inc. GST

Commercial license, ColdFusion MX8 Enterprise 
$9500 Inc. GST

Upgrade
Commercial license, upgrade to ColdFusion MX8 Standard from 7
$850 Inc. GST

Commercial license, upgrade to ColdFusion MX8 Enterprise from 7 
$4300 Inc. GST


Support & Installation

Charged per hour, basic installations are normally 2 hours
$110 Inc. GST


Hosting

Virtual and Dedicated Servers in Australia and Canada
>From $250 a month Inc. GST

We can also include official licenses in the hosting cost.


Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a customized quote on hosting or discount
on bulk orders.

*Prices are quoted in Australian dollars and subject to change without
notice, call 1800 032 982 for updated pricing


 

On 8/1/07, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:


 

http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry
<http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=213A7FF9-9D02
-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4> &entry=213A7FF9-9D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4 


 

And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to go
on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features and keep
the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should pay me to use
ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to another thread. 

 

Thanks,

Robin




 


 

Robin Hilliard

 

CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited

Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training

 <http://www.rocketboots.com.au/> http://www.rocketboots.com.au 

 

m +61 418 414 341

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*** Virtual and Dedicated Servers with MS SQL from $250 a month
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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-01 Thread Mark Blair 
Steve,

 

Adobe sells ColdFusion in Australia under a channel model.  Briefly the
mechanics of this are

 

1.  Adobe sells ColdFusion to distributors (the primary ones in
Australia being Express Data and Ingram Micro) 
2.  Resellers buy ColdFusion from distributors 
3.  Resellers sell ColdFusion to end users. 

 

The only control point Adobe has is the price they sell ColdFusion to
distributors.  After this point naturally distributors make their margin
and so do resellers.  

 

All this means you are likely to see a large range of prices for the
same software and Adobe has no control over this.  I hope this helps you
understand the differences you are seeing.  

 

I'd be happy to discuss this further with anyone who has further queries


 

Best

Mark

 

Technical Director, Pacific 

Adobe Systems

 

 

 



From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 1:09 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
Announced

 

How is it that yours are cheaper than Rocketboots?

 



From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Taco Fleur
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2007 1:00 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
Announced

May I add to that with the following info;

 

ColdFusion MX8 Pricing

New license
Commercial license, ColdFusion MX8 Standard 
$1699 Inc. GST

Commercial license, ColdFusion MX8 Enterprise 
$9500 Inc. GST

Upgrade
Commercial license, upgrade to ColdFusion MX8 Standard from 7
$850 Inc. GST

Commercial license, upgrade to ColdFusion MX8 Enterprise from 7 
$4300 Inc. GST


Support & Installation

Charged per hour, basic installations are normally 2 hours
$110 Inc. GST


Hosting

Virtual and Dedicated Servers in Australia and Canada
From $250 a month Inc. GST

We can also include official licenses in the hosting cost.


Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a customized quote on hosting or
discount on bulk orders.

*Prices are quoted in Australian dollars and subject to change without
notice, call 1800 032 982 for updated pricing


 

On 8/1/07, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:


 

http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=213A7FF9-9
D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4 


 

And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to
go on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features
and keep the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should
pay me to use ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to
another thread. 

 

Thanks,

Robin




 


 

Robin Hilliard

 

CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited

Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training

http://www.rocketboots.com.au <http://www.rocketboots.com.au/>  

 

m +61 418 414 341

e [EMAIL PROTECTED] 







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*** Virtual and Dedicated Servers with MS SQL from $250 a month
*** Virtual and Dedicated Servers with registered version of ColdFusion
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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-01 Thread Taco Fleur 
Business decission.



On 8/2/07, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  How is it that yours are cheaper than Rocketboots?
>
>  --
> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> Behalf Of *Taco Fleur
> *Sent:* Thursday, 2 August 2007 1:00 PM
> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
> Announced
>
>
>  May I add to that with the following info;
>
> *ColdFusion MX8 Pricing*
>
> New license
> Commercial license, ColdFusion MX8 Standard
> $1699 Inc. GST
>
> Commercial license, ColdFusion MX8 Enterprise
> $9500 Inc. GST
>
> Upgrade
> Commercial license, upgrade to ColdFusion MX8 Standard from 7
> $850 Inc. GST
>
> Commercial license, upgrade to ColdFusion MX8 Enterprise from 7
> $4300 Inc. GST
>
>
> Support & Installation
>
> Charged per hour, basic installations are normally 2 hours
> $110 Inc. GST
>
>
> Hosting
>
> Virtual and Dedicated Servers in Australia and Canada
> From $250 a month Inc. GST
>
> We can also include official licenses in the hosting cost.
>
>
> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a customized quote on hosting or
> discount on bulk orders.
>
> *Prices are quoted in Australian dollars and subject to change without
> notice, call 1800 032 982 for updated pricing
>
>
> On 8/1/07, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:
> >
> >
> > http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=213A7FF9-9D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4
> >
> >
> >
> > And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
> > Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to
> > go on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features and
> > keep the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should pay me to
> > use ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to another thread.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Robin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Robin Hilliard
> >
> > CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited
> > Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training
> > http://www.rocketboots.com.au
> >
> > m +61 418 414 341
> > e [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.clickfind.com.au
> > The new Australian search engine for businesses, products and services
> > *** Virtual and Dedicated Servers with MS SQL from $250 a month
> > *** Virtual and Dedicated Servers with registered version of ColdFusion
> > from $350 a month
> > *** ColdFusion licenses at the lowest price
> > > >
> >


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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-01 Thread Steve Onnis 
How is it that yours are cheaper than Rocketboots?

  _  

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Taco Fleur
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2007 1:00 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
Announced


May I add to that with the following info;
 
ColdFusion MX8 Pricing

New license
Commercial license, ColdFusion MX8 Standard 
$1699 Inc. GST

Commercial license, ColdFusion MX8 Enterprise 
$9500 Inc. GST

Upgrade
Commercial license, upgrade to ColdFusion MX8 Standard from 7
$850 Inc. GST

Commercial license, upgrade to ColdFusion MX8 Enterprise from 7 
$4300 Inc. GST


Support & Installation

Charged per hour, basic installations are normally 2 hours
$110 Inc. GST


Hosting

Virtual and Dedicated Servers in Australia and Canada
>From $250 a month Inc. GST

We can also include official licenses in the hosting cost.


Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a customized quote on hosting or discount
on bulk orders.

*Prices are quoted in Australian dollars and subject to change without
notice, call 1800 032 982 for updated pricing


 
On 8/1/07, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:

 
http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry
<http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=213A7FF9-9D02
-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4> &entry=213A7FF9-9D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4 


 
And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to go
on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features and keep
the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should pay me to use
ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to another thread. 


Thanks,
Robin


 


 
Robin Hilliard


CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited
Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training
 <http://www.rocketboots.com.au/> http://www.rocketboots.com.au 


m +61 418 414 341
e [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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*** Virtual and Dedicated Servers with registered version of ColdFusion from
$350 a month 
*** ColdFusion licenses at the lowest price 




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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-01 Thread Dale Fraser 

Stephen,

It depends on how you look at it, you are not paying 25% for extra features,
you are paying the upgrade price + 25% for the extra features, although this
is Enterprise only.

"There is a trend to outsource software maintenance to low-cost
highly-skilled countries like India, but that has never really caught on
when it comes to new product development."

You obviously have no idea that ColdFusion is developed exactly like this in
India.

"Tell me Dale, how would you feel about working for the same rate that you
were getting when CF7 was released?"

This is a silly argument, if you used the same argument on hardware prices,
then I'd be taking a big pay cut. If you use the same argument on Flex then
I'd be working for Free.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com


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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Stephen M
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2007 10:19 AM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing
Announced



On Aug 1, 9:57 pm, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:
>
> http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?
> mode=entry&entry=213A7FF9-9D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4
>
> And to finish (reignite?  Please keep your hats on) the pricing  
> thread:  Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%.  If the  
> thread is going to go on, let's at least have a good look at the new  
> Enterprise features and keep the "I think ColdFusion should be free,  
> no dammit they should pay me to use ColdFusion, AND it should be open  
> source" discussion to another thread.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
> Robin Hilliard

I don't really care about the price since I've never had to pay for it
myself and the companies I have worked for have never regarded price
as an issue, but I'll add my 2.5 cents anyway (used to be 2c but I've
recently raised my rates.)

So when was CF7 released anyway? 4 or 5 years ago.  Inflation has been
about 3 or 4 % per year since then, so CF8 needs to be priced at least
12% higher just to stay the same in real terms.  Bananas go up in
price over the years, cars go up, petrol goes up.  Why shouldn't
software go up?  The only things that go down in price is stuff that
can be manufactured in China.  There is a trend to outsource software
maintainence to low-cost highly-skilled countries like India, but that
has never really caught on when it comes to new product development.

Computer hardware goes down because of improved manufacturing
techniques and increases in economies of scale, but has software ever
followed the same cost curve as hardware?  The major cost input to new
software products are labour - the cost of the programmers who write
the code and the best software labourers keep raising their rates.

  So is there anyone out there who charges less than they did when CF7
was released?  Tell me Dale, how would you feel about working for the
same rate that you were getting when CF7 was released?

regards,
Stephen

>
> CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited
> Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing .
Traininghttp://www.rocketboots.com.au
>
> m+61 418 414 341
> e[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-01 Thread Dale Fraser 
Robin,

 

Thanks for the info, your pricing is much more competitive.

 

Adobe US$  Adobe AU$  Rocket AU$

Standard Full$1,299 $2,105 $1,787

Standard Upgrade $649   $1,055 $893

Enterprise Full  $7,499 $12,169$10,003

Enterprise Upgrade   $3,750 $6,085 $4,641

 

If you look at the Upgrade from CF7 Standard price (which most will be
interested in). There is not much price difference.

 

$649 / $0.84 = $772 (Exchange Rate)

$772 + 10% = $849 (GST)

 

$849 vs $893, there might be some other things in there like duty but pretty
close.

 

I have to ask however, if you can announce Channel pricing and we are
comparing that to US retail, is there US Chanel pricing also, meaning people
in the US get it even cheaper again. I see that Amazon is only marginally
less expensive than the Adobe store.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

  http://dalefraser.blogspot.com

 

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Robin Hilliard
Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2007 9:58 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

 

Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:

 

http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry
 &entry=213A7FF9-9D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4

 

And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to go
on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features and keep
the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should pay me to use
ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to another thread.

 

Thanks,

Robin



 

 

Robin Hilliard

 

CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited

Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training

  http://www.rocketboots.com.au

 

m +61 418 414 341

e [EMAIL PROTECTED]








 


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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-01 Thread Stephen M 


On Aug 1, 9:57 pm, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:
>
> http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?
> mode=entry&entry=213A7FF9-9D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4
>
> And to finish (reignite?  Please keep your hats on) the pricing  
> thread:  Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%.  If the  
> thread is going to go on, let's at least have a good look at the new  
> Enterprise features and keep the "I think ColdFusion should be free,  
> no dammit they should pay me to use ColdFusion, AND it should be open  
> source" discussion to another thread.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
> Robin Hilliard

I don't really care about the price since I've never had to pay for it
myself and the companies I have worked for have never regarded price
as an issue, but I'll add my 2.5 cents anyway (used to be 2c but I've
recently raised my rates.)

So when was CF7 released anyway? 4 or 5 years ago.  Inflation has been
about 3 or 4 % per year since then, so CF8 needs to be priced at least
12% higher just to stay the same in real terms.  Bananas go up in
price over the years, cars go up, petrol goes up.  Why shouldn't
software go up?  The only things that go down in price is stuff that
can be manufactured in China.  There is a trend to outsource software
maintainence to low-cost highly-skilled countries like India, but that
has never really caught on when it comes to new product development.

Computer hardware goes down because of improved manufacturing
techniques and increases in economies of scale, but has software ever
followed the same cost curve as hardware?  The major cost input to new
software products are labour - the cost of the programmers who write
the code and the best software labourers keep raising their rates.

  So is there anyone out there who charges less than they did when CF7
was released?  Tell me Dale, how would you feel about working for the
same rate that you were getting when CF7 was released?

regards,
Stephen

>
> CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited
> Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . 
> Traininghttp://www.rocketboots.com.au
>
> m+61 418 414 341
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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-01 Thread Barry Beattie 

I can't remember for sure but gut feeling tells me that the price
increase for CF7 was pretty small. Maybe this is a bit of catch-up?

Meh, I'm not worried. Years ago I almost ended up follow a J.D Edwards
career path. Now  *that* sort of thing is expensive...


On 8/2/07, Pat Branley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Heres some trvia:
>
> According to my dictionary.xml in CFEclipse for CF7 there are 106 CFML
> Tags, and 286 functions supported. For the CF8, there are 138 tags and
> 286 functions. I dont think its been updated with the latest function
> list, but working on tags thats 30% more tags for so i hear 25% more
> cost.
>
> obviously thats a very simplistic way of looking at it. How much value
> do those new tags provide for your dollar ? what else apart from
> language enhancements make the purchase worthwhile ? etc. etc. But i
> dont think its really suprising the price went up since theres more
> 'stuff' in the new product.
>
>
> Pat
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 1, 10:53 pm, "M@ Bourke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Personally I'd expect every new edition to have more features/advancements
> > as that's what you expect in IT when a new product comes along, and Adobe
> > has competitors so it should always have new features etc as the competitors
> > do.
> > So I think the price increase is up for debate.
> >
> > On 8/1/07, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:
> >
> > >http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=213A7FF...
> >
> > > And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
> > > Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to
> > > go on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features and
> > > keep the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should pay me 
> > > to
> > > use ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to another 
> > > thread.
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Robin
> >
> > > Robin Hilliard
> >
> > > CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited
> > > Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training
> > >http://www.rocketboots.com.au
> >
> > > m +61 418 414 341
> > > e [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-01 Thread Pat Branley 

Heres some trvia:

According to my dictionary.xml in CFEclipse for CF7 there are 106 CFML
Tags, and 286 functions supported. For the CF8, there are 138 tags and
286 functions. I dont think its been updated with the latest function
list, but working on tags thats 30% more tags for so i hear 25% more
cost.

obviously thats a very simplistic way of looking at it. How much value
do those new tags provide for your dollar ? what else apart from
language enhancements make the purchase worthwhile ? etc. etc. But i
dont think its really suprising the price went up since theres more
'stuff' in the new product.


Pat




On Aug 1, 10:53 pm, "M@ Bourke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Personally I'd expect every new edition to have more features/advancements
> as that's what you expect in IT when a new product comes along, and Adobe
> has competitors so it should always have new features etc as the competitors
> do.
> So I think the price increase is up for debate.
>
> On 8/1/07, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:
>
> >http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=213A7FF...
>
> > And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
> > Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to
> > go on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features and
> > keep the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should pay me to
> > use ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to another thread.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Robin
>
> > Robin Hilliard
>
> > CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited
> > Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training
> >http://www.rocketboots.com.au
>
> > m +61 418 414 341
> > e [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[cfaussie] Re: Plug: Australian ColdFusion Channel Pricing Announced

2007-08-01 Thread M@ Bourke 
Personally I'd expect every new edition to have more features/advancements
as that's what you expect in IT when a new product comes along, and Adobe
has competitors so it should always have new features etc as the competitors
do.
So I think the price increase is up for debate.

On 8/1/07, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here you are, fresh from the distributor earlier this afternoon:
>
>
> http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=213A7FF9-9D02-5973-871580C49CE9ACA4
>
> And to finish (reignite? Please keep your hats on) the pricing thread:
> Enterprise price increased 28%, Standard 2.5%. If the thread is going to
> go on, let's at least have a good look at the new Enterprise features and
> keep the "I think ColdFusion should be free, no dammit they should pay me to
> use ColdFusion, AND it should be open source" discussion to another thread.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
>
> Robin Hilliard
>
> CEO - RocketBoots Pty Limited
> Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training
> http://www.rocketboots.com.au
>
> m +61 418 414 341
> e [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> >
>

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