Re: [freenet-chat] ANN: freedisk (freenet filesystem) pre-alpha

2006-05-25 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Fri, 26 May 2006 14:33:42 +1200, David McNab
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I've checked into the svn repo a first hack at 'freedisk', which is an
> implementation of a linux filesystem over freenet (using the FUSE
> framework)
> 
> So far, it's only a partial implementation. I've announced it at this
> premature stage in the hope that some brave soul might be persuaded to
> take it for a spin, and report any hassles that arise from (attempts
> to) install it and get it going.
> 
> It's way easy to set up on debian, because all the dependencies are in
> the debian feeds already (libfuse2, python-fuse, fuse-source). Users
> of other distros may or may not incur a bit of head-scratching,
> depending on the distro.
> 
> This partial implementation of freedisk is only capable of:
> 
>  - generating new keypairs (cat /mnt/freenet/cmd/genkeypair)
> 
>  - retrieving simple URIs (cat /mnt/freenet/keys/[EMAIL PROTECTED]),
>as long as the URIs don't contain slashes
> 
> Next stages will include:
>  - error logging/retrieval
>  - basic key insert
>  - CHK insertion and URI retrieval
>  - asymmetrical key insertions (SSK@, SRK@, USK@ etc)
>  - directories over freenet, via USKs

Not intended in any way to detract from your work, but what is the
intended purpose or use for this?

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[freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Recent mail problems

2005-07-25 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier

On 25-Jul-2005 Matthew Toseland wrote:
> Recently dodo has been having problems. The lists should work now.

Yes, it looks like things are back to normal again now.  Thanks for
taking care of this so quickly!

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[freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!

2005-03-06 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier

On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 15:40:13 -0800, Todd Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 15:20:43 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As far as I can tell, both the latest stable and unstable
> > are perfectly compatible with each other.  We really
> > might even wish to consider just going ahead and
> > enabling the dual-network mode by default in versions
> > 510x and 6026x.  I think this could be a real boon
> > to the currently existing network(s).
> 
> Why?  1) How active is the unstable network? 2) How much of that
> activity is by people who are not also contributing to the stable
> network?  3) Wouldn't a node serving both networks risk overloading,
> and thus weighing down both of them?  4) Weren't you yourself saying,
> just a while back, that running dual-network was an activity for an
> "elite"?

1) Using the seednodes files as a reference, it seems that unstable is
fairly active.  Not as active as stable, of course, but active enough to
warrant consideration.

2) No way to answer this question, really.  :-)

3) No, there would be no greater risk of overloading a node, as it would
adjust itself in exactly the same manner, regardless of the node
versions it was connecting with.

4) I only meant that it was "elite" in the sense that, because it was
NOT enabled by default, one had to take extraordinary measures to
activate this facility.

> > Of course, 0.7 is bound to bring some radical changes,
> > where we'd want to disable this feature again, but for
> > now, it might be nice to build it into the downloadable
> > packages, so everyone could benefit from it.
> 
> I think we could benefit from somebody taking over maintenance of 0.6
> while the 0.7 rewrite is being done.  Somebody Toad (and the rest of
> us!) could trust.  Somebody with the energy needed to do it.  Somebody
> who has a few ideas about how he'd accomplish such a task.

I agree.  I'd hate to see 0.6 languish totally while Toad is busy with
his 0.7 rewrite.  There's always room for improvement/new ideas.

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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!

2005-03-06 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:44:40 +, Matthew Toseland
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 08:24:41PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 13:30:11 +, Matthew Toseland
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > [ re: dual-network nodes ]
> > 
> > > It's a massive hack and I'm amazed it works...
> > 
> > Well, the term "massive hack" is a little misleading.  It's really
> > just a simple adjustment of a few variables.
> 
> Well, the way the code was designed is such that it is SUPPOSED to
> disconnect from incompatible nodes. Hence my amazement that it works.

But...if they're using the same protocol, then where's the
incompatibility?  As far as I can tell, both the latest stable and
unstable are perfectly compatible with each other.  We really might even
wish to consider just going ahead and enabling the dual-network mode by
default in versions 510x and 6026x.  I think this could be a real boon
to the currently existing network(s).

Of course, 0.7 is bound to bring some radical changes, where we'd want
to disable this feature again, but for now, it might be nice to build it
into the downloadable packages, so everyone could benefit from it.

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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!

2005-03-02 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 13:30:11 +, Matthew Toseland
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[ re: dual-network nodes ]

> It's a massive hack and I'm amazed it works...

Well, the term "massive hack" is a little misleading.  It's really just
a simple adjustment of a few variables.

> my understanding is
> that the code will disconnect if you try to do this..

No, actually, it does work, and rather well at that.  On my unstable
node, the stable nodes I've been regularly connecting with are some of
my biggest "producers".  Check this out (this is from a recently
restarted node):

Peer node version Messages Data sent Data received
Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.51,5101 142105:13157 15 MiB1,929 KiB
Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.51,5101 66454:77763  6,062 KiB 11 MiB
Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.51,5101 51556:13525  4,382 KiB 1,995 KiB

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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!

2005-02-26 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 08:47:14 +, Roger Hayter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Conrad J. 
> Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:31:21 +, Roger Hayter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd Walton
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >> >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:30:33 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier
> >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >Please excuse the crossposting, but I felt this was important
> >enough > >to make sure it was seen by those who may not be subscribed
> >to this > >or that list.
> >> >
> >> >Right.  But the No-No about crossposting is that there are likely
> >to > >be others who would not agree that it's important enough to
> >> >cross-post.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Then it's hard to be off-topic in chat, isn't it?  For instance, I
> >> might  remark that probably not many stable nodes will be upgraded
> >> unless some  one builds a snapshot and increments the build number.
> >
> >Well, the dual-network capability is not enabled by default in the
> >source code, and has never been enabled in precompiled packages, so
> >anyone wanting to use it would still have to get the sources,
> >uncomment the two relevant lines in Version.java, and build a new
> >freenet.jar for themselves.
> >
> >In other words, it's still pretty much of an "elite" feature, and
> >will most likely remain so.
> >
> 
> Maybe I misunderstood you:  I thought you were hoping for many stable 
> nodes (rather than dual-network nodes themselves) to be updated.  All
> I  was saying was that not many are likely to be updated unless you
> have a  new build number and new snapshots available for said stable
> nodes. -- 
> Roger Hayter

No, I just wanted to try to get the word out to as wide a potential
audience as possible.  I would *hope* that people involved enough in
freenet to undertake running a dual-network node would be subscribed to
at least one or two of these lists, but it's impossible, of course, to
know for sure if they are, or to which ones, so I just used the "spray
paint" approach.  :-)

The update itself doesn't really warrant a new build number, IMHO (or
maybe it does; I don't know).  At any rate, for the "average" stable
user, the update is completely irrelevant and can be safely ignored;
it's really only the "elite" group of dual-network node users that
needed to be informed, and I just wanted to cover all the bases in one
fell swoop.

The reason I felt it was so important was that, prior to this update,
the dual-network functionality was, in effect, pretty badly broken (at
least from the stable side), so I felt there was a certain urgency in
getting the word out.  I also feel very strongly that the dual-network
nodes serve a very vital function, bridging the two otherwise completely
separate networks and helping to propagate data between the two, thereby
helping to enrich freenet's content for everyone.

I hope I've cleared up any possible misunderstandings now.  :-)

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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!

2005-02-25 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:31:21 +, Roger Hayter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd Walton 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:30:33 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Please excuse the crossposting, but I felt this was important enough
> >to make sure it was seen by those who may not be subscribed to this
> >or that list.
> >
> >Right.  But the No-No about crossposting is that there are likely to
> >be others who would not agree that it's important enough to
> >cross-post.
> >
> 
> Then it's hard to be off-topic in chat, isn't it?  For instance, I
> might  remark that probably not many stable nodes will be upgraded
> unless some  one builds a snapshot and increments the build number.

Well, the dual-network capability is not enabled by default in the
source code, and has never been enabled in precompiled packages, so
anyone wanting to use it would still have to get the sources, uncomment
the two relevant lines in Version.java, and build a new freenet.jar for
themselves.

In other words, it's still pretty much of an "elite" feature, and will
most likely remain so.

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[freenet-chat] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!

2005-02-25 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
Please excuse the crossposting, but I felt this was important enough to
make sure it was seen by those who may not be subscribed to this or that
list.

The following will be appearing later today in DFI's News section:

Feb 25, 2005:  Finally got around to committing to CVS an overlooked
update to the stable version of src/freenet/Version.java.  I had updated
the unstable version of this file several weeks ago (see Jan 20, 2005
below), but forgot to sync up the one in stable.  As a result, there was
a mismatch between the protocol version stable was expecting unstable
nodes to be using, and the one unstable nodes actually were using. 
Those of you running dual-network nodes should start seeing better
results now, as more and more stable users update their nodes to include
this latest update.  Sorry for not taking care of this sooner! 

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Re: [freenet-chat] DFI: Proposal to add activelink images -- feedback wanted

2005-02-18 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 01:58:07 +, Matthew Toseland
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You get the picture? I could make a convincing case that sites that
> INLINE, as opposed to link to, child porn, cannot be included on the
> web interface for legal, ethical, and public relations reasons no
> matter what the theoretical justification is. And I rather think
> you're looking for trouble by building one. Real world trouble, I
> mean. But then I think you're looking for trouble anyway, by openly
> running an uncensored index; maybe it doesn't make much difference.

You're starting to make me paranoid now.  :-)  Perhaps I should kill DFI
and start up a new, completely anonymous index site.  :-)

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Re: [freenet-chat] DFI: Proposal to add activelink images -- feedback wanted

2005-02-17 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:40:06 -0800, Todd Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> What about activelinks only for new/updated/featured sites?  Those are
> the ones mainly of interest, right?  Like a flash banner ad versus a
> Google AdWord.  Some sites deserve more promotion/propagation than
> others.
> 
> -todd

Well, that's certainly one possibility.  :-)  Although, the mere fact
that a site is new or updated doesn't necessarily reflect on its
"worthiness" of being promoted and/or propagated.

I'm going to have to give this idea more thought before I decide on
anything.  I would like to include at least *some* activelinks, but then
if it comes down to actually picking and choosing which sites' images to
include, we begin to venture into the thorny thicket of editorializing
or even outright censorship, which is not something I really care to get
into at all.

Yes, there are some sites I would just as soon not even exist, but I
feel a certain responsibility not to allow my personal feelings to
influence the content of DFI, being that its sole "raison d'ĂȘtre", as I
see it, is to provide as complete and up-to-date an index to freenet's
content as possible.  It's not my place to "protect" people from
questionable or potentially offensive content, or even to warn them; it
should be everyone's right to choose for themselves what they care to
explore, and to do so without the burden of someone else's value
judgements weighing on their minds.  In fact, I feel so strongly about
this that if I were forced to start weeding out the objectionable
content, or even to merely place warnings or other editorial commentary,
I would just as soon no longer maintain an index site at all, period.

The spider and it resulting index, in its current mode of operation, is
as unbiased and impartial as it can possibly be, neither condemning nor
recommending any particular material it provides links to.  I believe
this is as it should be.

Also, from a legal perspective, I do think it's safer to allow the
spider to simply do its thing and find what it will, and to
auto-generate the index with no intervention on my part, for exactly the
same reason many Usenet news service providers choose to follow a "hands
off" policy regarding the content of their servers.  Once you adopt a
policy of "filtering on content", you abandon all semblance of plausible
deniability and do, in effect, assume responsibility for *knowing* about
any questionable material you may be providing.  At that point, you may
as well just hang it up, as it is simply not humanly possible to ensure
that no objectionable or illegal content can possibly "leak" out from
your server or site or whatever.

IANAL, and I could be mistaken on some of the finer points relating to
the above, but I am reasonably certain that, should I ever find myself
in the position of having to defend myself in the legal arena, I would
fare much better as the operator of a completely uncensored index site
than if I were actively engaged in "editing for content".  Let's just
hope I never need to find out, or at least that, if I do, I don't
discover too late that I was dreadfully, horribly wrong.  :-)

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Re: [freenet-chat] DFI: Proposal to add activelink images -- feedback wanted

2005-02-17 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:15:41 +, Matthew Toseland
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hmmm.
> 
> As far as loading goes, you have the problem of limits on simultaneous
> fetches. There would potentially be several hundred alinks on the
> page, and the browser might well block while loading them - or the
> node might. The node is limited to 24-36 simultaneous fproxy requests.

So then, how does TFE get away with it?  :-)

No, seriously, is this a hard-coded limit, or is it determined
on-the-fly, based on the current level of activity?

> And now, content:
> TFE does not include alinks for every site. Partly this is because
> DNFing alinks take longer to load. But partly it's because of concerns
> about content. He links to everything, but doesn't alink to
> everything. Personally I might prefer not to use an index which caused
> the propagation of _all_ sites it linked to - all the pedophilia, all
> the porn, all the hate speech, and so on. And even in a 95x32 alink
> image, you _CAN_ produce some seriously disturbing images. Also I am
> of the opinion that authors of index sites really ought to be
> anonymous, or they are storing up all sorts of trouble for themselves,
> but you've already blown that, so I'm not criticising... :)

See my reply to Todd Walton's post in this thread for my thoughts on the
above.

> I rather like YoYo's approach, with alinks for everything but a
> separate page for each category. Of course this isn't ideal, as you
> always have to worry about New/Updated, if you use it.

Yes, but, one of the things that I find annoying about YoYo, and about
the new "Hopeless" and "Oscar" index sites, is the lag involved in
loading a given category.  You may bring up the main page just fine,
only to find that you're suddenly faced with an interminable wait for a
category's sub-page to load.

> One other suggestion: Would it be hard to run it dual-format? Have the
> whole set of pages both with and without alinks?

That's a possibility, sure.  Wouldn't be that hard to pull off.

> Just my 2p. Feel free to completely ignore, I do not speak for the
> project.

Well, I'm just personally of the "free everything" school of thought.  I
really like the idea of just letting the information flow, regardless of
content.  I'd hate to get into making value judgements re: which sites
merit more propagation than others and whatnot. 

If people didn't like the notion of helping to propagate certain sites,
they would then have to decide what was more important to them: having
full access to and use of this index site, or sacrificing some utility
and convenience for the sake of maintaining their moral position as
intact as possible.

Actually, the idea of putting (some) people in the position of having to
choose along such lines does have its charms, I must say.  :-)  But
that's just me, of course.  I do have something of the rebel/iconoclast
in me, you might say.  :-)

We'll see.  I'm in no hurry to make any radical changes just yet, and I
do value the opinions of others on this.

Thanks.

> On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 04:38:42PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> > I just added the following to the "News" section on DFI today, but
> > thought I'd also go ahead and post it here, too, in the hope of
> > generating more feedback:
> > 
> > Feb 13, 2005:  Calling all freeneters!  Your feedback is needed!
> >  
> > I'm currently in the process of doing some fairly extensive
> > revisions to the spider used to generate both DFI's database of site
> > links as well as the actual HTML code for the site itself.  Perhaps
> > the biggest and most important idea under consideration (which I'm
> > leaning rather strongly in favor of, myself) is the addition of
> > support for activelink images.  I'd like to know how you would feel
> > about such a change, and I'll explain my own views on the matter
> > right here, right now.  
> > 
> > The payoff, it seems to me, would be quite substantial, and the
> > drawbacks, if any, quite minimal in comparison.  For a trivial
> > amount of additional code in the spider itself, and in the HTML code
> > for DFI, we would be reaping some fairly significant benefits.  
> > 
> > Not only would the images lend a great deal more visual appeal to
> > DFI (something it is sorely lacking in at present), but more
> > importantly, they would also assist in the propagation of each
> > site's metadata (which is what activelinks were originally designed
> > to do, by the way, in case you didn't already know), thus helping to
> > improve "the freenet experience" for everyone.  Your node would be
&g

[freenet-chat] DFI: Proposal to add activelink images -- feedback wanted

2005-02-13 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
I just added the following to the "News" section on DFI today, but
thought I'd also go ahead and post it here, too, in the hope of
generating more feedback:

Feb 13, 2005:  Calling all freeneters!  Your feedback is needed!
 
I'm currently in the process of doing some fairly extensive revisions
to the spider used to generate both DFI's database of site links as well
as the actual HTML code for the site itself.  Perhaps the biggest and
most important idea under consideration (which I'm leaning rather
strongly in favor of, myself) is the addition of support for activelink
images.  I'd like to know how you would feel about such a change, and
I'll explain my own views on the matter right here, right now.  

The payoff, it seems to me, would be quite substantial, and the
drawbacks, if any, quite minimal in comparison.  For a trivial amount of
additional code in the spider itself, and in the HTML code for DFI, we
would be reaping some fairly significant benefits.  

Not only would the images lend a great deal more visual appeal to DFI
(something it is sorely lacking in at present), but more importantly,
they would also assist in the propagation of each site's metadata (which
is what activelinks were originally designed to do, by the way, in case
you didn't already know), thus helping to improve "the freenet
experience" for everyone.  Your node would be fetching and saving sites'
metadata in your local datastore for future reference, while also
improving its routing capabilities in the process, a big win for
everybody no matter how you look at it.  

The only real drawbacks, as far as I can see, would be a slight
increase in the size of the HTML code (pretty much a moot issue, as
DFI's index.html is compressed and stored in a zipped container file
anyway) and longer time for the entire index page to render completely
(due to the fact that your browser would actually be fetching the images
in realtime each time you load DFI).  

Bear in mind that we're only talking about adding a line or two of HTML
code that references an image, not embedding the actual image itself in
the page, so it's not like we'd be adding a whole lot of additional data
per site.  Also, the presence or absence of a given site's image would
serve as a pretty good realtime indicator of the likelihood of it being
successfully retrieved (a concept you're no doubt already familiar with
from using The Freedom Engine).  

In addition, you would still be able to browse through the index,
reading sites' info, right-clicking on links to open them in a separate
tab or window, etc., while any remaining images were still being
fetched, so the overall usability of the index would not be impaired in
any way by this.  The main body of the index would still be rendered as
quickly as possible by your browser, while the activelink images would
be fetched and rendered asynchronously.  

Your thoughts on this idea would be greatly appreciated.  Please use
the feedback link on the DFI navigator to send me your opinion.  

Thank you! 
 
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[freenet-chat] Oops, sorry about that!

2005-02-03 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
I forgot that I had disable the DFI update cron job yesterday while I
was doing some last-minute tinkering.  Wouldn't you know, today, the
first time I assume the site will be inserted unattended, it isn't.  :-)

My apologies.  Got the insert working right now.

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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: jdk 1.5 at last! Yay!

2005-01-25 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:09:35 +0100, "Alex R. Mosteo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:07:02 +0100, "Alex R. Mosteo"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> >>
> >>>Just finished building and installing the Sun Java 1.5.0 kit on my
> >>>Athlon (32-bit) box.  Finally catching up with the rest of you
> >>>folks. :-)
> >>>
> >>>Unfortunately, we're still seeing some build problems for amd64
> >>>under FreeBSD.  :-(  But the problems have been reported and are
> >>>being worked on.  Shouldn't be long before I have a full 64-bit
> >Java >>up and running.  I can hardly wait!
> >>>
> >>>Too early to tell what sort of difference this new version will
> >>>make, but nonetheless, I'm very happy to finally be up to date.
> >>
> >>A difference is that FIW no longer works :P
> > 
> > 
> > Uh-oh!  Not good!
> > 
> > Do you mean it just plain flat-out won't work, or that it won't
> > compile? I've already tried the latter, and found that its use of
> > "enum" as an identifier causes the compile to fail.
> 
> In my case, I use a precompiled fiw from old (the one from the
> website,  I think). When running it with the 1.5 jre, the interface
> shows with a  strange (grayish) look. When attempting an insertion, it
> hangs.
> 
> >>>Somebody congratulate me.  :-)
> >>
> >>Congratulations ;)
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks.  But if fiw won't work at all under 1.5, it looks like I'll
> > have to revert to 1.4.2 for now.  :-(  We'll see.
> 
> My solution is to specifically use 1.4 for FIW. I already had a script
> 
> to launch it, so it was a very minor nuissance to alter it to add an 
> absolute path. Everything else has worked ok with 1.5 here.

I just did a test and thank goodness, fiw still works.  :-)  That would
have been very bad indeed.  :-)

Stupid me, though, last night, as I was rebuilding freenet under 1.5, I
forgot to modify my startup script, and freenet kept failing at startup.
Only took me an hour or two to realize what was really going on.  :-)

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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: jdk 1.5 at last! Yay!

2005-01-25 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:07:02 +0100, "Alex R. Mosteo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
> > Just finished building and installing the Sun Java 1.5.0 kit on my
> > Athlon (32-bit) box.  Finally catching up with the rest of you
> > folks. :-)
> > 
> > Unfortunately, we're still seeing some build problems for amd64
> > under FreeBSD.  :-(  But the problems have been reported and are
> > being worked on.  Shouldn't be long before I have a full 64-bit Java
> > up and running.  I can hardly wait!
> > 
> > Too early to tell what sort of difference this new version will
> > make, but nonetheless, I'm very happy to finally be up to date.
> 
> A difference is that FIW no longer works :P

Uh-oh!  Not good!

Do you mean it just plain flat-out won't work, or that it won't compile?
I've already tried the latter, and found that its use of "enum" as an
identifier causes the compile to fail.

> > Somebody congratulate me.  :-)
> 
> Congratulations ;)

Thanks.  But if fiw won't work at all under 1.5, it looks like I'll have
to revert to 1.4.2 for now.  :-(  We'll see.

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[freenet-chat] jdk 1.5 at last! Yay!

2005-01-24 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
Just finished building and installing the Sun Java 1.5.0 kit on my
Athlon (32-bit) box.  Finally catching up with the rest of you folks.
:-)

Unfortunately, we're still seeing some build problems for amd64 under
FreeBSD.  :-(  But the problems have been reported and are being worked
on.  Shouldn't be long before I have a full 64-bit Java up and running. 
I can hardly wait!

Too early to tell what sort of difference this new version will make,
but nonetheless, I'm very happy to finally be up to date.

Somebody congratulate me.  :-)

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[freenet-chat] Yay! They just announced the release of the initial patchset for JDK 1.5.0 for FreeBSD!

2005-01-14 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
Know what *I'll* be doing this weekend.  :-)

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