Re: [freenet-chat] p2p = child-endangerment

2001-07-31 Thread Mr. Smith


--- Greg Wooledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lobbyist: "Hello, Senator.  I'd like to talk about
> piracy."
> 
> Senator: "You mean people who copy music and movies
> without paying for
> them?"
> 
> Lobbyist: "Yes, that's right.  We can't prosecute
> these people because
> of loopholes in the copyright laws.  So we'd like
> you to pass some more
> laws that protect our business interests."
> 
> Senator: "But what about free speech?"
> 
> Lobbyist: "May I remind you that the media companies
> constitute XX% of
> this country's gross national product, as well as
> YY% of our exports?
> And did you forget about all the help we gave you in
> your last campaign?"
> 
> Senator: "Well gosh, that's right."

My statement wasn't geared at their intent, more at
the physical restrictions that would cause any
interference to be impractical.  Short of outlawing
encryption, there is no way to eliminate peer to peer
file sharing.  As much as our politicians sell out to
the entertainment industry, there's no way something
like that would come to pass without being challenged
immediately and successfully by half the lawyers in
the nation.

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Re: [freenet-chat] p2p = child-endangerment

2001-07-30 Thread Greg Wooledge

Mr. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> I wonder what congress thinks it has a hope in hell of
> accomplishing against P2P porn, file sharing, etc. 

Lobbyist: "Hello, Senator.  I'd like to talk about piracy."

Senator: "You mean people who copy music and movies without paying for
them?"

Lobbyist: "Yes, that's right.  We can't prosecute these people because
of loopholes in the copyright laws.  So we'd like you to pass some more
laws that protect our business interests."

Senator: "But what about free speech?"

Lobbyist: "May I remind you that the media companies constitute XX% of
this country's gross national product, as well as YY% of our exports?
And did you forget about all the help we gave you in your last campaign?"

Senator: "Well gosh, that's right."

[...]

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Re: [freenet-chat] p2p = child-endangerment

2001-07-30 Thread Mr. Smith


--- Jeremy G Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  And that's the whole point of the report Mr.
> Largent and I are
>  releasing today." He also said that in comparison,
> the debate
>  over the V-Chip is "trivial."

There are still v-chip debates?  Sheesh, great to see
my tax dollars at work.

I wonder what congress thinks it has a hope in hell of
accomplishing against P2P porn, file sharing, etc. 
Silly luddites.

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Re: [freenet-chat] p2p = child-endangerment

2001-07-30 Thread Timm Murray


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy G Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:47 AM
Subject: [freenet-chat] p2p = child-endangerment


<>

> " . . . In this case, parental awareness and parental involvement matter
more than legislation.
> And that's the whole point of the report Mr. Largent and I are
> releasing today."

Well, that's something at least.  Parental awareness and involvement is
always better then your stinky legislation.


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[freenet-chat] p2p = child-endangerment

2001-07-30 Thread Jeremy G Byrne

>--
  
 House Report Concludes P2P Networks Endanger Children 

 7/27. The Minority Staff of the Special Investigations Division
 of the House Committee on Government Reform released a report
 [ http://www.house.gov/reform/min/pdf/pornp2p.pdf ] titled
 "Children's Access to Pornography Through Internet File-Sharing
 Programs". The report, which was prepared at the request of Rep.
 Steve Largent (R-OK) and Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA), examined peer
 to peer networks, including Music City Morpheus, BearShare, and
 Aimster. 

 The report found that peer to peer (P2P) file copying networks
 other than Napster are growing rapidly in popularity. It also
 found that one of the major categories of content on these
 networks is pornography, including videos. Moreover, innocent
 search terms, such as "Britney Spears", return as results
 pornographic files, thereby endangering children. Finally, the
 report found that use of these peer to peer networks is free,
 and unaffected by the filtering software. 

 The report contains no recommendations for government action.
 Rep. Waxman stated that he wants to "draw attention" to the
 problem. He added that "As legislators, we can try to pass
 laws to address these issues. But sometimes legislation can't
 solve the entire problem by itself. In this case, parental
 awareness and parental involvement matter more than legislation.
 And that's the whole point of the report Mr. Largent and I are
 releasing today." He also said that in comparison, the debate
 over the V-Chip is "trivial."

>--[ From TLJ Daily E-Mail Alert 237, http://www.techlawjournal.com ]

It's all true. And KaZaA can give you warts.

CYa,
JEREMY



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