Re: [freenet-chat] p2p = child-endangerment
--- Greg Wooledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lobbyist: "Hello, Senator. I'd like to talk about > piracy." > > Senator: "You mean people who copy music and movies > without paying for > them?" > > Lobbyist: "Yes, that's right. We can't prosecute > these people because > of loopholes in the copyright laws. So we'd like > you to pass some more > laws that protect our business interests." > > Senator: "But what about free speech?" > > Lobbyist: "May I remind you that the media companies > constitute XX% of > this country's gross national product, as well as > YY% of our exports? > And did you forget about all the help we gave you in > your last campaign?" > > Senator: "Well gosh, that's right." My statement wasn't geared at their intent, more at the physical restrictions that would cause any interference to be impractical. Short of outlawing encryption, there is no way to eliminate peer to peer file sharing. As much as our politicians sell out to the entertainment industry, there's no way something like that would come to pass without being challenged immediately and successfully by half the lawyers in the nation. __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___ Chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/chat
Re: [freenet-chat] p2p = child-endangerment
Mr. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I wonder what congress thinks it has a hope in hell of > accomplishing against P2P porn, file sharing, etc. Lobbyist: "Hello, Senator. I'd like to talk about piracy." Senator: "You mean people who copy music and movies without paying for them?" Lobbyist: "Yes, that's right. We can't prosecute these people because of loopholes in the copyright laws. So we'd like you to pass some more laws that protect our business interests." Senator: "But what about free speech?" Lobbyist: "May I remind you that the media companies constitute XX% of this country's gross national product, as well as YY% of our exports? And did you forget about all the help we gave you in your last campaign?" Senator: "Well gosh, that's right." [...] -- Greg Wooledge | "Truth belongs to everybody." [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- The Red Hot Chili Peppers http://wooledge.org/~greg/ | PGP signature
Re: [freenet-chat] p2p = child-endangerment
--- Jeremy G Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And that's the whole point of the report Mr. > Largent and I are > releasing today." He also said that in comparison, > the debate > over the V-Chip is "trivial." There are still v-chip debates? Sheesh, great to see my tax dollars at work. I wonder what congress thinks it has a hope in hell of accomplishing against P2P porn, file sharing, etc. Silly luddites. __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___ Chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/chat
Re: [freenet-chat] p2p = child-endangerment
-Original Message- From: Jeremy G Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:47 AM Subject: [freenet-chat] p2p = child-endangerment <> > " . . . In this case, parental awareness and parental involvement matter more than legislation. > And that's the whole point of the report Mr. Largent and I are > releasing today." Well, that's something at least. Parental awareness and involvement is always better then your stinky legislation. ___ Chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/chat
[freenet-chat] p2p = child-endangerment
>-- House Report Concludes P2P Networks Endanger Children 7/27. The Minority Staff of the Special Investigations Division of the House Committee on Government Reform released a report [ http://www.house.gov/reform/min/pdf/pornp2p.pdf ] titled "Children's Access to Pornography Through Internet File-Sharing Programs". The report, which was prepared at the request of Rep. Steve Largent (R-OK) and Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA), examined peer to peer networks, including Music City Morpheus, BearShare, and Aimster. The report found that peer to peer (P2P) file copying networks other than Napster are growing rapidly in popularity. It also found that one of the major categories of content on these networks is pornography, including videos. Moreover, innocent search terms, such as "Britney Spears", return as results pornographic files, thereby endangering children. Finally, the report found that use of these peer to peer networks is free, and unaffected by the filtering software. The report contains no recommendations for government action. Rep. Waxman stated that he wants to "draw attention" to the problem. He added that "As legislators, we can try to pass laws to address these issues. But sometimes legislation can't solve the entire problem by itself. In this case, parental awareness and parental involvement matter more than legislation. And that's the whole point of the report Mr. Largent and I are releasing today." He also said that in comparison, the debate over the V-Chip is "trivial." >--[ From TLJ Daily E-Mail Alert 237, http://www.techlawjournal.com ] It's all true. And KaZaA can give you warts. CYa, JEREMY ___ Chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/chat