Re: [Chevelle-List] Changing Engines

2002-11-07 Thread Jeff Bisnett
Steve

I had the same problem trying to figure out what to do with my 10 bolt rear
end. Finally after much research into a 12 bolt or 9 I took it to my local
shop that had a great reputation for building rear ends. He put an auburn
posi it new all new bearings and new axles. I have a 327SB with about 340hp
but want to upgrade to a 396 BB one day. He told me not to worry about that
rear end it will take 500-600hp and guaranteed it. Cheaper than the other
options worth looking into.

Jeff

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 I am doing the same. Moving to a 396, moderately built, but not over
 400hp. I have a plain jane 10 bolt non-posi. Thinking about doing rear
 disc while I am doing the frame-off.

 So how does one go about knowing what 12 bolts will fit if you don't
 buy one of these expensive made to order 3rd party brand spanking new
 12 bolts built for racing?

 What GM products would have a 12 bolt, posi, and rear disc? Which would
 be good donor cars?

 Keep in mind that around here junk yards that deal with cars older than
 1985 are more rare than a rice burner beating a big block Chevy.

Steve



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 You will more than likely need to throw a nice 12 bolt in there too.
 The
 stock 10 bolt peg leg rears usually don't hold up to the torque of a big

 block.  Make sure you have all the pulleys, brackets, and other stuff
 for a
 big block also

 Tom

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Changing Engines/10 bolts

2002-11-07 Thread Capt Crunch
I will also chime in here... I really believe that 10 bolts can be made to work for alot of people who run 12b's or 9"s. Most of my experiences are with a 8.5 10 bolt, but I think a similar built 8.2 would with stand a stock-ish BBC fine. Especially if it only sees street duty. The latest build... My buddy and I built up a 10 bolt 8.5 with Precision Gears, Auburn, aftermarket cap on the driver's side, and reinforcing diff cover from LPW. It has lived approx. 50 passes thus far onhis 1984 ungutted Buick Electra Station Wagon (yes complete with cheesy wood panel trim :P) The car runs 11's on cheater slicks all day long and weighs in at over 5,000 lbs. It has a 12 to 1 496 under the hood. So far the rear end hasn't battered an eye despite the weight, power, or bite. IMO that is impressive results for the ole 10 bolt.  Mikey   - Original Message - From: Jeff Bisnett Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 2:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Changing Engines SteveI had the same problem trying to figure out what to do with my 10 bolt rearend. Finally after much research into a 12 bolt or 9" I took it to my localshop that had a great reputation for building rear ends. He put an auburnposi it new all new bearings and new axles. I have a 327SB with about 340hpbut want to upgrade to a 396 BB one day. He told me not to worry about thatrear end it will take 500-600hp and guaranteed it. Cheaper than the otheroptions worth looking into.Jeff- Original Message -From: "Chevelle 69" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:12 PMSubject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Changing Engines I am doing the same. Moving to a 396, moderately built, but not over 400hp. I have a plain jane 10 bolt non-posi. Thinking about doing rear disc while I am doing the "frame-off". So how does one go about knowing what 12 bolts will fit if you don't buy one of these expensive "made to order" 3rd party brand spanking new 12 bolts built for racing? What GM products would have a 12 bolt, posi, and rear disc? Which would be good donor cars? Keep in mind that around here junk yards that deal with cars older than 1985 are more rare than a rice burner beating a big block Chevy. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Changing Engines You will more than likely need to throw a nice 12 bolt in there too. The stock 10 bolt peg leg rears usually don't hold up to the torque of a big block. Make sure you have all the pulleys, brackets, and other stuff for a big block also Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]-To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.htmlTo start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [Chevelle-List] Tire question...

2002-11-07 Thread Capt Crunch
 Thanks for the help Herb and others. 17's must looksweet cool on your Chevelle!  Mikey  - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Tire question... Yeah, 17x10 w/ 5.5" back space. I think I've seen others list the samedimensions fitting 68 and up Chevelles also.cYa-Herb- Original Message -From: "wbainey" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 7:44 AMSubject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Tire question... I knew you would ask. I don't know. I can check but it won't be tillthis weekend. Car in storage. Anyone else running a big tire? Walt = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = What offset wheels do you have? I should of added that to my listquestions. Thanks.  Mikey  - Original Message - From: wbainey Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 8:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Tire question...  My 70 has MT 29X12(10 1/2 tread) tires. The car sits low as well. Withthe correct offset rim the tires will fit 68-72 A-bodies maybe other years as well. Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm  = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = I found a good deal on some 28x10.5 ET Streets and am wondering if theywill fit? I assume so. I think I'm gonna need some different springs thoughcause my rear seems saggy... especially w/ 24" tall tires on the back right now:(   Mikey  Walter Bainey Network Engineer Network Services Kent State University   - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Walter Bainey Network Engineer Network Services Kent State University - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]-To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.htmlTo start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


[Chevelle-List] Trap door

2002-11-07 Thread Fred Knoche








I saw this on E-Bay and I was wondering where the heck it
goes. Ive heard of the smugglers box in the bed,
but this is a new one to me. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Fred

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Re: [Chevelle-List] new to the list

2002-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gary,

welcome to the list.

Bad wendors (to me) OPG.

all the others have been great to me but for shipping overseas some of 
them charge loads of money

André in Italy

 Hi all,
 
 I am new to this list and just picked up a 64 Chevelle Malibu Converti
ble.
 I am in Madison, WI.
 
 I am new to classic Chevy's, but I just sold a 62 Karmann Ghia Convert
ible
 to buy a Chevelle.
 
 Any advice on the good or bad vendors out there?
 
 The Chevelle I bought needs a complete tune up so I am in search for r
epair
 books and tune up parts to work on the car during the winter.
 
 Thanks for any help!!
 
 Gary
 
 
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Re: [Chevelle-List] new to the list

2002-11-07 Thread bdo_chevelle
Gary,

Any chance you're looking for engine parts?  I have a '64 4-bbl intake (E 5 4 
date, 3844459 casting) and a set of ordinary small-valve (1.72/1.50) heads 
taking up space in my basement.  Even if you don't need them the mere fact that 
you have a '64 makes them more valuable to you than to me.  I work at FABCO so 
shipping would be, uh, non-existent.  ;^)  Email me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
if you're interested.  Will consider trades for Pontiac parts and/or Pizza 
Extreme pizza.  ;^)

Was this a local acquisition?  I read the State Journal classifieds somewhat 
regularly and don't recall seeing a '64 convertible recently.  What's the story?

Since you're in the area I assume you're aware of the Jefferson swap meet and 
the other events put on by Madison Classics.  Keep an eye on 
www.jeffersonswapmeet.com for info.

Brad O.

 I am new to this list and just picked up a 64 Chevelle Malibu Convertible.
 I am in Madison, WI.
 
 I am new to classic Chevy's, but I just sold a 62 Karmann Ghia Convertible
 to buy a Chevelle.
 
 The Chevelle I bought needs a complete tune up so I am in search for repair
 books and tune up parts to work on the car during the winter.
 
 Gary

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Vin Numbers

2002-11-07 Thread bdo_chevelle
Dan,

IIRC the engine code started appearing in the VIN sometime in the early '70s.  
VINs from earlier years simply indicated the number of cylinders unless the VIN 
indicated a specific model for which only 1 engine was available, in which case 
you'd know the engine by default.  Are you wondering about your Impala?

Brad O.

 Does anyone on this list know how to tell exactly what motor came in a GM car? 
 Other than having the build sheet, is there anything in the vin that would help. 
 All I've ever seen from the Vin tag is the number of cylinders. I've read 
 discussion threads saying that most all of the body tags say V8. Mopars and 
 Fords seem to have this info displayed prominently. Is The General keeping this 
 info secret for some reason. Thank you.
 Dan McIntosh
 64 Impala SS
 65 Malibu

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[Chevelle-List] Flowmaster install

2002-11-07 Thread John Nasta
Well, good news! Ron is back to work on my 69 El Camino. He says the glass
is back in and he's going to block it one more time and put another coat of
primer on.

My question is, what's the procedure for having a shop install Flowmasters?
Do I need to buy them and bring them to the shop? I was hoping I could just
buy them myself and bring them to the local Meineke or whoever bends their
own pipe. Right now all I have on the car is two open pipes that end
underneath the floorboards. I'm thinking about the three-chamber version
because it's not a race car, but I do want it to have a little bit of a
rumble. I have a friend who has the two-chamber Flowmasters on a 70 SS
clone, and it's too loud for what I want (although he has a 454 and I have a
283, but still).

TIA for any advice,
John Nasta
http://johnnasta.com/elcamino




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Re: [Chevelle-List] Flowmaster install

2002-11-07 Thread MICRLASER
John

Flowmaster makes a kit you can bolt directly up.  It's called the American 
Thinder System. It's a 2.5 H-pipe setup, you can get it with or w/o the 
mufflers.  i have it on my 70 and it fit very nice.  I had the whole thing 
installed in about an hour.  Any good muffler shop can do the job if you take 
them the new mufflers.  It may be cheaper if you get the shop to get them, ya 
never know, they may get them at wholesale cost.  I ordered my setup from 
Jeg's and did it on the weekend in my garage.

Tom

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Changing Engines

2002-11-07 Thread HarKemAsso
IS it true or not that an auburn cannot be rebuilt but a eaton can be rebuilt??
this is what i was told by auburn and eaton
??

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Flowmaster install

2002-11-07 Thread HarKemAsso
John, 
thats what i have done in the past (brought my own muffs in) i had one shop complain 
that he was not going to make any money on the mufflers if i did that, BUT THEN I JUST 
WENT SOMEWHERE ELSE. if you are worried about flow i would go to a regular fab shop 
who could put madrel(? spelling) bent stuff on for you- i have seen some pretty 
restricted stuff come out of muffler shops (like on my v8 s10). there are also 
diffrent thickness of pipe and kinds too, aluminized, stainless (this does not rust 
but i heard it turns brown from the heat and looks like rust) also some swear by h- 
pipes. my engine builder told me that he has found they just cut down the noise a 
little, no real power gains. (??) and also they hang down lower and make removing the 
trans driveshaft a pain- but they could use fittings here too for that. just some 
ideas to get you thinking, i/m not sure if all my info is correct but this is what i 
have been told.
H

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Flowmaster install

2002-11-07 Thread John Nasta
Thanks Tom,

Yeah, I see that kit and I can get a deal on it myself directly from
Flowmaster. The nice thing about the El Camino kit (17120) is that it comes
with the stainless exhaust tips and is pre-bent to exit behind the rear
wheel wells. All nicey nicey when done. I guess I'll go that route. It's
probably the most efficient and probably even less expensive than buying the
mufflers and then paying a shop to bend pipes (and I won't have to worry
about trusting some shop mechanic with my newly restored car).

Thanks for the info. I'm glad to hear that it fits well and installs easily.

John Nasta


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John

Flowmaster makes a kit you can bolt directly up.  It's called the American
Thinder System. It's a 2.5 H-pipe setup, you can get it with or w/o the
mufflers.  i have it on my 70 and it fit very nice.  I had the whole thing
installed in about an hour.  Any good muffler shop can do the job if you
take
them the new mufflers.  It may be cheaper if you get the shop to get them,
ya
never know, they may get them at wholesale cost.  I ordered my setup from
Jeg's and did it on the weekend in my garage.

Tom



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Re: [Chevelle-List] Flowmaster install

2002-11-07 Thread Leo
For what it’s worth, I installed the Flowmaster kit for the El Camino on my
70.  I installed it in my driveway and it fit like a dream.  The ‘H’ pipe
and all pipes are above the frame rails, don’t drag.  The two pipes that
connect to the headers are adjustable and need to be cut to fit.  I used a
regular pipe cutter for plumbing pipe, three wheels that role around the
pipe to be cut.  I used the band type clamps from Dynomax.  The system came
with all hardware and hangers to install.  I substituted the Dynomax clamps
for the regular muffler clamps.  Other than that you got everything needed
to install.

Leo

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 Thanks Tom,

 Yeah, I see that kit and I can get a deal on it myself directly from
 Flowmaster. The nice thing about the El Camino kit (17120) is that it
comes
 with the stainless exhaust tips and is pre-bent to exit behind the rear
 wheel wells. All nicey nicey when done. I guess I'll go that route. It's
 probably the most efficient and probably even less expensive than buying
the
 mufflers and then paying a shop to bend pipes (and I won't have to worry
 about trusting some shop mechanic with my newly restored car).

 Thanks for the info. I'm glad to hear that it fits well and installs
easily.

 John Nasta


 -Original Message-


 John

 Flowmaster makes a kit you can bolt directly up.  It's called the American
 Thinder System. It's a 2.5 H-pipe setup, you can get it with or w/o the
 mufflers.  i have it on my 70 and it fit very nice.  I had the whole thing
 installed in about an hour.  Any good muffler shop can do the job if you
 take
 them the new mufflers.  It may be cheaper if you get the shop to get them,
 ya
 never know, they may get them at wholesale cost.  I ordered my setup from
 Jeg's and did it on the weekend in my garage.

 Tom



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Re: [Chevelle-List] Vin Numbers

2002-11-07 Thread Dan McIntosh
No,
I have a buddy at work who swears there has to be some way to tell. This has
almost come to fisticuffs at times!! I would hate to think I've been saying
that there's no way to tell, and then have him find that there is a way. I
know in later years the is a call letter in the VIN that designates the CID,
but nothing for the earlier cars. Thanks for the info. Take it easy. Oh ya,
last day for my 65 on Ebay.
Dan McIntosh
64 Impala SS
65 Malibu

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 Dan,

 IIRC the engine code started appearing in the VIN sometime in the early
'70s.
 VINs from earlier years simply indicated the number of cylinders unless
the VIN
 indicated a specific model for which only 1 engine was available, in which
case
 you'd know the engine by default.  Are you wondering about your Impala?

 Brad O.

  Does anyone on this list know how to tell exactly what motor came in a
GM car?
  Other than having the build sheet, is there anything in the vin that
would help.
  All I've ever seen from the Vin tag is the number of cylinders. I've
read
  discussion threads saying that most all of the body tags say V8. Mopars
and
  Fords seem to have this info displayed prominently. Is The General
keeping this
  info secret for some reason. Thank you.
  Dan McIntosh
  64 Impala SS
  65 Malibu

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[Chevelle-List] looking for 1978-87 El Camino pics

2002-11-07 Thread John Nasta
I'm looking for pictures of 1978-87 El Caminos with and without the side
body moldings that cam e w/ the two-tone paint. I just want to show somebody
the difference in how it would look each way.

Thanks,
John Nasta





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Re: [Chevelle-List] Trap door

2002-11-07 Thread Herbert Lumpp



I have no idea what they're talking about Fred. When I got my 66 Elky 
it was pretty much complete and there was no "trap door" on it anywhere. I 
say keep your money!
cYa-

Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/

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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 
  AM
  Subject: [Chevelle-List] Trap door
  
  
  I saw this on E-Bay and I was 
  wondering where the heck it goes. I’ve heard of the “smuggler’s box” in the 
  bed, but this is a new one to me. Any ideas?
  Thanks,
  Fred
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Flowmaster install

2002-11-07 Thread Dale McIntosh
I had an American Thunder exhaust system installed on my 67 and, while
not a bolt-on job that can be done in the driveway easily, any
competent muffler shop should be able to handle it.  The kit assumes
headers so you still have to weld up the pipes to the collector reducer.
I have a short .WAV file at
http://bull-enterprises.com/dalesplace/p852.wav if you'd like to
hear it.

Dale McIntosh


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Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Flowmaster install

Thanks Tom,

Yeah, I see that kit and I can get a deal on it myself directly from
Flowmaster. The nice thing about the El Camino kit (17120) is that it
comes
with the stainless exhaust tips and is pre-bent to exit behind the rear
wheel wells. All nicey nicey when done. I guess I'll go that route. It's
probably the most efficient and probably even less expensive than buying
the
mufflers and then paying a shop to bend pipes (and I won't have to worry
about trusting some shop mechanic with my newly restored car).

Thanks for the info. I'm glad to hear that it fits well and installs
easily.

John Nasta


-Original Message-


John

Flowmaster makes a kit you can bolt directly up.  It's called the
American
Thinder System. It's a 2.5 H-pipe setup, you can get it with or w/o the
mufflers.  i have it on my 70 and it fit very nice.  I had the whole
thing
installed in about an hour.  Any good muffler shop can do the job if you
take
them the new mufflers.  It may be cheaper if you get the shop to get
them,
ya
never know, they may get them at wholesale cost.  I ordered my setup
from
Jeg's and did it on the weekend in my garage.

Tom



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RE: [Chevelle-List] Flowmaster install

2002-11-07 Thread John Nasta
Hmmm, Leo also mentioned headers. I don't have headers. Just stock x-mans.
Is that going to be a problem? I guess I'll have to call Flowmaster again
tomorrow and double-check.

John Nasta



-Original Message-

I had an American Thunder exhaust system installed on my 67 and, while
not a bolt-on job that can be done in the driveway easily, any
competent muffler shop should be able to handle it.  The kit assumes
headers so you still have to weld up the pipes to the collector reducer.
I have a short .WAV file at
http://bull-enterprises.com/dalesplace/p852.wav if you'd like to
hear it.

Dale McIntosh





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RE: [Chevelle-List] Vin Numbers

2002-11-07 Thread Dale McIntosh
Title: RE: [Chevelle-List] Vin Numbers






The 72 Chevelle was the first to have the engine size in the VIN; the 5th digit of the VIN was the key. I don't know about other makes/models, but for Chevelle's there is no way to tell what size engine came the car with one exception - that being the 66-68 SS models (138x7 VIN) designating a SS396. The horsepower rating was still a guess, but it HAD to have come from the factory with a 396. All other years (and 66-68 NON SS models) could only be decoded as a 6-cyl car or a V-8 car - no more/no less. Example, my 67 Elky came with a V-8 according to the VIN (13680) but which V8 (283 or 327) is impossible to tell from the VIN itself. The Protect-O-Plate tells me it came with a 275hp 327 and the engine numbers on the front pad match a 67 327 engine with a correct build date for the car.

So, go punch him in the nose :*)

FWIW, there are people on the list who swear that a partial VIN was stamped on the front pad as early as 1966 but I think it may have been factory specific. My 67 has a 69 396 engine in it and it does NOT have the VIN stamped on the front pad. My 67 327 Elky (built in Fremont) does not have the VIN stamped on the front pad either.

Dale McIntosh




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No,

I have a buddy at work who swears there has to be some way to tell. This has

almost come to fisticuffs at times!! I would hate to think I've been saying

that there's no way to tell, and then have him find that there is a way. I

know in later years the is a call letter in the VIN that designates the CID,

but nothing for the earlier cars. Thanks for the info. Take it easy. Oh ya,

last day for my 65 on Ebay.

Dan McIntosh

64 Impala SS

65 Malibu

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Flowmaster install

2002-11-07 Thread Dale McIntosh
It shouldn't be a problem, just cut the length to fit to your stock
exhaust pipe.  My point was that it's not a DIRECT REPLACEMENT all the
way to the exhaust manifold AND you'll have to weld or band clamp the
pipes together which I consider not a typical driveway installation like
factory style exhaust.

Dale

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Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Flowmaster install

Hmmm, Leo also mentioned headers. I don't have headers. Just stock
x-mans.
Is that going to be a problem? I guess I'll have to call Flowmaster
again
tomorrow and double-check.

John Nasta



-Original Message-

I had an American Thunder exhaust system installed on my 67 and, while
not a bolt-on job that can be done in the driveway easily, any
competent muffler shop should be able to handle it.  The kit assumes
headers so you still have to weld up the pipes to the collector reducer.
I have a short .WAV file at
http://bull-enterprises.com/dalesplace/p852.wav if you'd like to
hear it.

Dale McIntosh





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Re: [Chevelle-List] Trap door

2002-11-07 Thread jason pollock
ditto herb i have had 3 66 elcaminos never seen nor heard of a trapdoor
jason pollock
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 05:23 PM, Herbert Lumpp wrote:

I have no idea what they're talking about Fred.  When I got my 66 Elky it was pretty much complete and there was no "trap door" on it anywhere.  I say keep your money!

cYa-
 
Herb Lumpp
1966 El Camino
ACES 3509, MCC 528
http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/

- Original Message -
From: Fred Knoche
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-List] Trap door

I saw this on E-Bay and I was wondering where the heck it goes. I’ve heard of the “smuggler’s box” in the bed, but this is a new one to me. Any  ideas?

Thanks,

Fred

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1871842775rd=1

 



RE: [Chevelle-List] Trap door

2002-11-07 Thread Brian Zack



That 
looks like maybe something off of a wagon.

Brian Zack'70 
Chevelle Malibumailto:brianz@dpsabq.com Dekker/Perich/Sabatini architecture interiors planning 
engineering 505.761.9700 fax 505.761.4222. 


  -Original Message-From: jason pollock 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, November 07, 
  2002 4:46 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-List] Trap door
  ditto herb i have had 3 66 elcaminos never seen nor heard of a trapdoor 
  
  jason pollock 
  On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 05:23 PM, Herbert Lumpp wrote: 
  
  
I have no idea what they're talking about Fred. When I got my 66 
Elky it was pretty much complete and there was no "trap door" on it 
anywhere. I say keep your money! 
cYa- 
 
Herb Lumpp 
1966 El Camino 
ACES 3509, MCC 528 
http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ 

- Original Message - 
From: Fred Knoche 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 AM 
Subject: [Chevelle-List] Trap door 
I saw this on E-Bay and I was wondering where 
the heck it goes. I’ve heard of the “smuggler’s box” in the bed, but this is 
a new one to me. Any ideas? 
Thanks, 
Fred 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1871842775rd=1 

 



Re: [Chevelle-List] Trap door

2002-11-07 Thread Tom Blawkamp



It kind a looks like the back side of a fold down 
seat for a station wagon. Tom B.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  jason pollock 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:45 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Trap 
  door
  ditto herb i have had 3 66 elcaminos never seen nor heard of a 
  trapdoorjason pollockOn Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 05:23 PM, 
  Herbert Lumpp wrote:
  I have no idea what they're talking about Fred. When I got 
my 66 Elky it was pretty much complete and there was no "trap door" on it 
anywhere. I say keep your money!cYa-Herb 
Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/- 
Original Message -From: 
Fred KnocheTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 AMSubject: [Chevelle-List] Trap 
doorI saw this on E-Bay and I 
was wondering where the heck it goes. I’ve heard of the “smuggler’s box” in 
the bed, but this is a new one to me. Any ideas?Thanks,Fredhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1871842775rd=1


Re: [Chevelle-List] Changing Engines

2002-11-07 Thread Jeff Bisnett
You are correct Auburn can't be rebuilt is uses cones not clutch discs.

Eaton can be rebuilt but uses clutches. I went with the auburn the shop that
put mine together
said that all he has ever used and never had a problem with one. Either one
is a good choice

If anyone needs an Eaton posi I have a 10 bolt 8.5 brand new in box with new
bearing kit.

Jeff


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Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Changing Engines


 IS it true or not that an auburn cannot be rebuilt but a eaton can be
rebuilt??
 this is what i was told by auburn and eaton
 ??

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Re: [Chevelle-List] new list member

2002-11-07 Thread gough
Hello everyone
  I joined the list a few weeks ago and have found it
very informative. I bought a 69 back in June at the street machine nationals
in Indy, it has all the SS 396 badging but had a 94 centerbolt 350 with TH
400 trans and 3:73 12 bolt posi. I'm pretty sure it's not a real SS since i
got it at a good price but i got what i was looking for, a solid body with
original floors and trunk in great shape, power steering and brakes, its GM
firethorn red with black interior.
Anyway it now has a 502 and built 700R 4, I just got it running last weekend
and it is amazing to say the least. 
The other day i read on the list that the rearend is 62 1/2'' OD at the
axles, i measured mine last night in preparation for a 9'' and it is 60
3/4'' without the drums, does my car have the wrong rearend or was the
gentleman mistaken at 62 1/2''. 
The other thing is that i put Torque Tech 3'' exhaust on it with 3 chamber
Flowmasters and it sounds great
I have 2 chambers on my Impala SS with 2 1/2'' pipes and it drones at low
RPM, I highly recomend the 3 chambers, great tone but not too loud at least
not for my tastes.

Kim Gough
69 ''SS 502''
95 Impala SS Turbo
91 Caprice wagon, no engine, waiting on new 572 crate?


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RE: [Chevelle-List] auburn eaton, was: Changing Engines

2002-11-07 Thread Dave Studly
Yes, it's true.

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IS it true or not that an auburn cannot be rebuilt but a eaton can be
rebuilt??
this is what i was told by auburn and eaton
??

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Trap door

2002-11-07 Thread Dwight Fulton



Looks like the spare tire compartment door off a wagon

Dwight
72 EC

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Zack 
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  Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:58 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Trap 
  door
  
  That looks like maybe something off of a wagon.Brian 
  Zack '70 Chevelle Malibumailto:brianz 
  mailto:brianz @dpsabq.com 
  Dekker/Perich/Sabatini architecture interiors 
  planning engineering 505.761.9700 fax 505.761.4222. 
  -Original Message-From: jason pollock 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 4:46 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  Re: [Chevelle-List] Trap doorditto herb i have had 3 66 elcaminos 
  never seen nor heard of a trapdoor jason pollock On Thursday, November 
  7, 2002, at 05:23 PM, Herbert Lumpp wrote: I have no idea what 
  they're talking about Fred. When I got my 66 Elky itwas pretty much 
  complete and there was no "trap door" on it anywhere. I saykeep your 
  money! cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino ACES 3509, MCC 528 
  http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ 
  - Original Message - From: Fred Knoche To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] 
  Trap door I saw this on E-Bay and I was wondering where the heck it 
  goes. I’ve heardof the “smuggler’s box” in the bed, but this is a new one 
  to me. Any ideas?Thanks, Fred http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1871842775rd=1 
  


[Chevelle-List] Re:Eaton Posi

2002-11-07 Thread Dwight Fulton
Jeff  How much for the Eaton Posi?


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From: Jeff Bisnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Changing Engines


 You are correct Auburn can't be rebuilt is uses cones not clutch discs.

 Eaton can be rebuilt but uses clutches. I went with the auburn the shop
that
 put mine together
 said that all he has ever used and never had a problem with one. Either
one
 is a good choice

 If anyone needs an Eaton posi I have a 10 bolt 8.5 brand new in box with
new
 bearing kit.

 Jeff


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 Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Changing Engines


  IS it true or not that an auburn cannot be rebuilt but a eaton can be
 rebuilt??
  this is what i was told by auburn and eaton
  ??
 
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RE: [Chevelle-List] new list member

2002-11-07 Thread Dale McIntosh
Title: RE: [Chevelle-List] new list member






Sounds like you have a 67 rear end. The reason I suspect a 67 as opposed to a 64-66 is the way the springs mount. I had a 68-72 rear in my 67 and finally swapped it out a couple of years ago for a 67 unit and nothing else was changed - springs, brake lines, u-joint, shocks, etc.

* 1964-67 Chevelle rear ends were manufactured by the Chevrolet Gear and Axle Division. The housing measures 56.5 inches from flange to flange, and with the brake drums in place, the total width is 60.5 inches. 

* 1968-72 Chevelle rear end housings measure 58.5 inches from flange to flange, and with the brake drums in place, the total width is 62.5 inches

Dale McIntosh

TC Gold #92/ACES #1709

67SS/67 Elky


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-chevelle- 

The other day i read on the list that the rearend is 62 1/2'' OD at the

axles, i measured mine last night in preparation for a 9'' and it is 60

3/4'' without the drums, does my car have the wrong rearend or was the

gentleman mistaken at 62 1/2''




Re: [Chevelle-List] new list member

2002-11-07 Thread Michael Pell
Welcome to the list!

Any chance you're from the Indy area?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello everyone
   I joined the list a few weeks ago and have found it
 very informative. I bought a 69 back in June at the street machine nationals
 in Indy, it has all the SS 396 badging but had a 94 centerbolt 350 with TH
 400 trans and 3:73 12 bolt posi. I'm pretty sure it's not a real SS since i
 got it at a good price but i got what i was looking for, a solid body with
 original floors and trunk in great shape, power steering and brakes, its GM
 firethorn red with black interior.
 Anyway it now has a 502 and built 700R 4, I just got it running last weekend
 and it is amazing to say the least.
 The other day i read on the list that the rearend is 62 1/2'' OD at the
 axles, i measured mine last night in preparation for a 9'' and it is 60
 3/4'' without the drums, does my car have the wrong rearend or was the
 gentleman mistaken at 62 1/2''.
 The other thing is that i put Torque Tech 3'' exhaust on it with 3 chamber
 Flowmasters and it sounds great
 I have 2 chambers on my Impala SS with 2 1/2'' pipes and it drones at low
 RPM, I highly recomend the 3 chambers, great tone but not too loud at least
 not for my tastes.

 Kim Gough
 69 ''SS 502''
 95 Impala SS Turbo
 91 Caprice wagon, no engine, waiting on new 572 crate?

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Re:Eaton Posi

2002-11-07 Thread Capt Crunch
The great thing about the Eaton is not only is it rebuildable, but you can change how aggresive it is by changing springs.  Mikey   - Original Message - From: Dwight Fulton Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Re:Eaton Posi Jeff How much for the Eaton Posi?- Original Message -From: "Jeff Bisnett" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:35 PMSubject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Changing Engines You are correct Auburn can't be rebuilt is uses cones not clutch discs. Eaton can be rebuilt but uses clutches. I went with the auburn the shopthat put mine together said that all he has ever used and never had a problem with one. Eitherone is a good choice If anyone needs an Eaton posi I have a 10 bolt 8.5 brand new in box withnew bearing kit. Jeff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Changing Engines  IS it true or not that an auburn cannot be rebuilt but a eaton can be rebuilt??  this is what i was told by auburn and eaton  ??   -  To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html  To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]-To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.htmlTo start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: [Chevelle-List] Flowmaster install

2002-11-07 Thread John Nasta
Thanks Dale,

That should not be a problem. I have two brand new pipes that come down from
the x-mans and end under the floorboards, so I have plenty of good pipe to
connect to.

I guess in the true spirit of a typical driveway installation I should use
a coffee can and 2 clamps to make a patch :)

John Nasta



-Original Message-


It shouldn't be a problem, just cut the length to fit to your stock
exhaust pipe.  My point was that it's not a DIRECT REPLACEMENT all the
way to the exhaust manifold AND you'll have to weld or band clamp the
pipes together which I consider not a typical driveway installation like
factory style exhaust.

Dale




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[Chevelle-List] Eaton Posi

2002-11-07 Thread Jeff Bisnett



Dave$395.00 for everythingit lists on summit for 419.99 
then the bearing kit is another 89.99 I 
thinkJeff