Re: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone is suggesting that after having my front control arms powder coated bushings ball joints installed I should have the lower ball joints tack welded. Is this a good/bad idea? I've heard of this and don't understand why you'd want to. Millions of Chevys out there are getting along just fine with their ball joints pressed in. Now if you put the ball joint in and it isn't tight I'd be concerned and looking for cracks maybe. I've done ball joints on a couple 64's and didn't have any problems. BTW, did they powdercoat inside the holes the ball joint and bushings fit in? I could see that causing some grief. Pete Geurds Douglassville, PA
Re: [Chevelle-list] Trans cross member, 67 manual
I'm sure you could probably fit a rice burner's tranny in there !! Bill C
Re: [Chevelle-list] Sneak peak
John, Thanks for the nice compliment on my 65. Herb's car certainly deserves the attention it is receiving. We did our cars in different styles, and they both make a little different statement. You can be sure that we both have a great respect for each others cars. Isn't that what it is all about? Mike - Original Message - From: John W. Lonadier, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:46 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Sneak peak Very nice Herb, that is one nice lookin elky. I did get an eye full of yours and Mike's at PT03 in Jackson and New Orleans. If anyone's car/truck should be on the cover yours deserves it, not to say the Mike's elky isn't nice because it is. I would have a tough time judging the two of them. Again, congrats Herb. John L. ACES #5597 70 LS5 TRIBUTE http://chevellfan.com/index89.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb Lumpp Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] Sneak peak Hi everyone, I'm sure most of you haven't received your Chevelle World yet. Since Chuck so graciously sent mine a little early, I thought I would share some of the newest issue with my favorite list! http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/Magazine.htm Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] Non-lister needs '66 appraisal help in NJ
Speaking of trips, I have to go to Cincinnati from Grand Rapids, Mi.,this week-end, going out empty car trailer, if someone needs anything delivered to Cincinnati Oh. Tom B. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Non-lister needs '66 appraisal help in NJ Please email Chris at the address shown if you can help. Thanks! Brad O. -- Forwarded Message: - From:Christine Walls [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [GTO] Appraisers Date:Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:33:26 -0700 Good Morning Everyone! We are buying a car that's located in southern New Jersey. Can anyone recommend an appraiser in the area to go look at it for us? This car is a 66 Chevelle that is a rolling shell.It has a lot of extra parts to go with it and we need somebody to go over it and make sure it's everything it's said to be and everything is there before we make a 1800 mile trip! Thanks! Chris
Re: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild
Good idea... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone is suggesting that after having my front control arms powder coated bushings ball joints installed I should have the lower ball joints tack welded. Is this a good/bad idea? Neal S. 66 Malibu Convert.
RE: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame
Thanks for your replies. I like the idea of an extra crossmember too. I would definitely have a professional welder do it, but I think I want to find someone that has done it before. Just to be sure it's done right. Well, it seems like no one has had this done? I'm just wondering if the benefits will be worth it. -Matt At 07:16 PM 12/4/2003 -0600, you wrote: At 07:07 PM 12/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: Yes, you are trying to turn the C into a box, but it's easier to do and more solid with square stock or another C channel (facing the opposite way) than with flat stock. John Nasta OK, that makes sense. Seems like it would add a little extra weight though. I also think that if you added a X between the frame rails behind the trans crossmember to in front of the kick up that would stiffen it even better than boxing. BL
RE: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild
Yeah, until the next time you want to change them. Unless you are beating on the car heavily, it serves no purpose. John Nasta -Original Message- Good idea... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone is suggesting that after having my front control arms powder coated bushings ball joints installed I should have the lower ball joints tack welded. Is this a good/bad idea? Neal S. 66 Malibu Convert.
Re: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild
It's a safety measure, and it works. John Nasta wrote: Yeah, until the next time you want to change them. Unless you are beating on the car heavily, it serves no purpose. John Nasta -Original Message- Good idea... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone is suggesting that after having my front control arms powder coated bushings ball joints installed I should have the lower ball joints tack welded. Is this a good/bad idea? Neal S. 66 Malibu Convert.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame
Matt,boxing the frame will increase the structural rigidity of your chassis by a considerable amount. Only you can decide whether it's worth the extra time and money. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Matthew Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your replies. I like the idea of an extra crossmember too. I would definitely have a professional welder do it, but I think I want to find someone that has done it before. Just to be sure it's done right. Well, it seems like no one has had this done? I'm just wondering if the benefits will be worth it. -Matt
RE: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild
Safety from what? I've never done it and never had any safety issues. You would need to conduct a controlled experiment (i.e. 2 otherwise identical cars subject to identical conditions) to prove that it works. Nothing personal. In my opinion it's pointless and creates future maintenance problems. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Riggins Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:07 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild It's a safety measure, and it works. John Nasta wrote: Yeah, until the next time you want to change them. Unless you are beating on the car heavily, it serves no purpose. John Nasta -Original Message- Good idea... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone is suggesting that after having my front control arms powder coated bushings ball joints installed I should have the lower ball joints tack welded. Is this a good/bad idea? Neal S. 66 Malibu Convert.
Re: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild
Normally, I would agree. However having owned 30+ Chevelles and rebuilding numerous front suspensions, I had 2 failures. The first one I dismissed as bad luck. Years later, when I had another failure, I consulted with a well respected front end shop and the owner told me he always tacked them as an additional safety measure for his customers. Assuming you can own and drive the car as much as it would take to wear out another set of ball joints, maybe it would be time to replace the entire a-arm rather than rebuilding it anyway. ER John Nasta wrote: Safety from what? I've never done it and never had any safety issues. You would need to conduct a controlled experiment (i.e. 2 otherwise identical cars subject to identical conditions) to prove that it works. Nothing personal. In my opinion it's pointless and creates future maintenance problems. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Riggins Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:07 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild It's a safety measure, and it works. John Nasta wrote: Yeah, until the next time you want to change them. Unless you are beating on the car heavily, it serves no purpose. John Nasta -Original Message- Good idea... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone is suggesting that after having my front control arms powder coated bushings ball joints installed I should have the lower ball joints tack welded. Is this a good/bad idea? Neal S. 66 Malibu Convert.
[Chevelle-list] '66 trunk lid for sale
I have an extra '66 trunk lid in good shape I've decided to sell. If anyone is interested, please email me directly. It's located in MD, and I'm asking $50. Hood still has original turquoise paint on it with one primer spot (not done by me). Pics available upon request. Thanks, Jim '66 Malibu __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/
Re: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild
no need to weld on the ball joint. it weakens it and also if you think about it, the spring is pulling up on the ball joint so it can't fall out or come loose unless like Pete mentioned there is a crack or the control arm was loose to begin with. Ðäññÿ .. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Someone is suggesting that after having my front control arms powder coated : bushings ball joints installed I should have the lower ball joints tack : welded. Is this a good/bad idea? : : I've heard of this and don't understand why you'd want to. : Millions of Chevys out there are getting along just fine with their ball joints pressed in. : Now if you put the ball joint in and it isn't tight I'd be concerned and looking for cracks maybe. : I've done ball joints on a couple 64's and didn't have any problems. : BTW, did they powdercoat inside the holes the ball joint and bushings fit in? I could see that causing some grief. : : : : : Pete Geurds : Douglassville, PA : :
[Chevelle-list] new parts available
Usually Trevor at Auto Obsession or I chime in and let you all know when new stuff becomes available. I'm sure that either of us can get these for you... 19667-67 rear bumper bracket set (4pcs) - Chevelle 1968-72 kick panels complete with vents and vent pulls (black only) - Chevelle / El Camino 1968 complete door shell (LH only at this time) - Chevelle coupe 1965 Rear license plate bracket set (2pcs) - Chevelle 1967 SS Hood Louvers are back in stock - Chevelle / El Camino 1970-72 Hood release handle w/ shaft - Chevelle / El Camino 1971-72 Front Fenders - El Camino 1964-72 Clothes hooks (pair) - all GM vehicles Years?? Shoulder harness hooks (the wire thingys that the shoulder belt sits in at the headliner) - all GM There are also a bunch of new Impala, GTO, and Camaro parts available if anyone is interested Enjoy! John Nasta Old Car Network http://oldcarnetwork.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild
If it were me,I would buy the lower A-arm reinforcing plates from that TC member and beef them up. That will give you a chance to look over your stock arms for cracks. If they have cracks (and a lot of them do),you can kill two birds with one stone,so to speak. After thirty+ years,metal fatigue is definitely a factor so look them over very closely. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] new parts available
Hey John, How much are the kick panels? What do you think of the quality? Thanks. Tim. On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:33:34 -0500 John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Usually Trevor at Auto Obsession or I chime in and let you all know when new stuff becomes available. I'm sure that either of us can get these for you... 19667-67 rear bumper bracket set (4pcs) - Chevelle 1968-72 kick panels complete with vents and vent pulls (black only) - Chevelle / El Camino 1968 complete door shell (LH only at this time) - Chevelle coupe 1965 Rear license plate bracket set (2pcs) - Chevelle 1967 SS Hood Louvers are back in stock - Chevelle / El Camino 1970-72 Hood release handle w/ shaft - Chevelle / El Camino 1971-72 Front Fenders - El Camino 1964-72 Clothes hooks (pair) - all GM vehicles Years?? Shoulder harness hooks (the wire thingys that the shoulder belt sits in at the headliner) - all GM There are also a bunch of new Impala, GTO, and Camaro parts available if anyone is interested Enjoy! John Nasta Old Car Network http://oldcarnetwork.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] new parts available
Woops, meant to send that directly to John, but what the heck..I'm sure someone else can benefit. Tim. On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:47:19 -0500 TronDD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey John, How much are the kick panels? What do you think of the quality? Thanks. Tim.
[Chevelle-list] Oil Changes
Can anyone enlighten me on this? Your typical maintenance schedule in the owner's manual will say something like, change oil every 6 months or 6000 miles, whichever occurs first. Now suppose I drive only 2000 miles in 6 months. Why do I need to change the oil at 6 months? Does the oil deteriorate over time regardless of the miles driven? The same for draining the radiator after two years or 24000 miles. ??? DK
Re: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame
Long time ago I did something like this to a 4x4 Chevy short wide truck. I was using it to go up in some mean and rough terrain in the mountains of southern NM. But what I did was not to box the frame because my thinking was that it would create a place where dirt and moisture would enter and make rusting a problem. So I used 10 gage sheet metal and welded it to the outside of the frame (stitch welding or welding only a few inches at a time at different places so as not to over heat the frame). Afterwards when I ground it off and painted it, no one could tell it had ever been touched. And it more than doubled the strength of the frame. I never had any cracks in this frame and I had numerous friends that did the same type of off-roading and I can't tell you how many of them cracked and ruined frames. Ðäññÿ .. - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame : Matt,boxing the frame will increase the structural rigidity of your chassis : by a considerable amount. Only you can decide whether it's worth the extra : time and money. : Clint Hooper : HH Custom,owner : LT5 Registry Director : http://www.LT5Registry.net/ : ACES #1650 : http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm : - Original Message - : From: Matthew Post [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-list] new parts available
They look great. I haven't tried to install them, so I can't comment on fit. Kick panels without vents have been around for a long time though, so I'd imagine fit would not be an issue. I suppose each retailer will determine their own price. I haven't added them to my database yet, so I actually have not come up with a price yet. Suggested retail from the manufacturer is $198/pair, which seems about right to me given what they cost on the wholesale level (they aint cheap). Here's a pic: http://www.oldcarnetwork.com/1440.jpg John Nasta Old Car Network http://oldcarnetwork.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of TronDD Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 4:49 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] new parts available Woops, meant to send that directly to John, but what the heck..I'm sure someone else can benefit. Tim. On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:47:19 -0500 TronDD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey John, How much are the kick panels? What do you think of the quality? Thanks. Tim.
RE: [Chevelle-list] new parts available
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] new parts available 1967 SS Hood Louvers are back in stock - Chevelle / El Camino Any chance of getting just one louver? I bought a pair years ago and somehow lost one. Perhaps it never made it into my trunk (I bought it direct from the vendor and it was a big order), but I've never taken care of it. If I can't buy one new, I'll take a good used one if it is not expensive... Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes
RE: [Chevelle-list] Oil Changes
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] Oil Changes Can anyone enlighten me on this? Your typical maintenance schedule in the owner's manual will say something like, change oil every 6 months or 6000 miles, whichever occurs first. Now suppose I drive only 2000 miles in 6 months. Why do I need to change the oil at 6 months? Does the oil deteriorate over time regardless of the miles driven? The same for draining the radiator after two years or 24000 miles. ??? DK The oil will get contaminants in it from sitting around. It is not the time as much as the environment. If you drive 100 mile trips and park the car in a 75 degree garage with good ventilation and low humidity, then you can probably go to the mileage limit. But I doubt this is the case for everyone. For me, I drove about this much in a year, but I start the car twice a day and drive less than five miles in most cases. This is really tough on the car and the oil since it barely gets to operating temperature. True, it may not be all that used up after 2,000 miles in six months, but it is cheap insurance to change the oil and spend the extra $8. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes
RE: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild If it were me,I would buy the lower A-arm reinforcing plates from that TC member and beef them up. That will give you a chance to look over your stock arms for cracks. If they have cracks (and a lot of them do),you can kill two birds with one stone,so to speak. After thirty+ years, metal fatigue is definitely a factor so look them over very closely. Ditto here. I had a cracked arm when I redid my front suspension. I bought two used arms from the swap meet and had Global West weld in some reinforcements. It was a few years later that they introduced their tubular lower arms... Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes
RE: [Chevelle-list] new parts available
They are only sold in pairs. We don't sell any used parts and probably the only place you would find a used one is ebay. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brad Waller Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:38 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] new parts available From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] new parts available 1967 SS Hood Louvers are back in stock - Chevelle / El Camino Any chance of getting just one louver? I bought a pair years ago and somehow lost one. Perhaps it never made it into my trunk (I bought it direct from the vendor and it was a big order), but I've never taken care of it. If I can't buy one new, I'll take a good used one if it is not expensive... Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes
[Chevelle-list] Heater Controls
I am new to this list and hope you can help. I have a 1969 Chevelle SS with air and the middle slider that allows you to switch between A/C and HEAT will only slide half way from A/C to bi-level. It will not move to the HEAT position. Is there a way to free this up or adjust it. Thanks _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photospgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: [Chevelle-list] Oil Changes
Some times I only put on 500 miles in a year...Maybe a bit less.I still change the oil in my 66 before I take it out for the first time after being parked for the winter.As for breaking down over time because of age...I'm not sure..I don't think it does though John
[Chevelle-list] RE: Oil Changes and changing oil.
I change my own oil on all my stuff. I like to jack the car up, slide under there, and look at stuff. It takes me usually over an hour to change my oil. The oil part only about 10 or 15 min of that. It is amazing how much time can be killed under a car - grease steering, wipe excess grease off all joints, check for leaks on engine, trans, and power steering pump. See if the front end is tight. Turn on the drive shaft and check the play. Maybe detail something by wiping off dirt or grime. Peace and solitude in the American garage. Has this ever happened to anyone else? Mark 71 SS Can anyone enlighten me on this? Your typical maintenance schedule in the owner's manual will say something like, change oil every 6 months or 6000 miles, whichever occurs first. Now suppose I drive
RE: [Chevelle-list] new parts available
Which is why I'm driving around with one new one and one of my old ones... -Brad- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 2:58 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] new parts available They are only sold in pairs. We don't sell any used parts and probably the only place you would find a used one is ebay. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brad Waller Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:38 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] new parts available From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] new parts available 1967 SS Hood Louvers are back in stock - Chevelle / El Camino Any chance of getting just one louver? I bought a pair years ago and somehow lost one. Perhaps it never made it into my trunk (I bought it direct from the vendor and it was a big order), but I've never taken care of it. If I can't buy one new, I'll take a good used one if it is not expensive... Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes
Re: [Chevelle-list] RE: Oil Changes and changing oil.
Mark, Yah its happenedbut what about when you fall asleep and take a nap under the car? lol -Tim
[Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated. Mike Holleman
RE: [Chevelle-list] RE: Oil Changes and changing oil.
One of my dogs got concerned enough about me to wake me up under my car about 2AM one time. I was under there about 10PM checking things out and I guess my creeper was more comfortable than my bed. Bill Vander Werf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] RE: Oil Changes and changing oil. Mark, Yah its happenedbut what about when you fall asleep and take a nap under the car? lol -Tim
RE: [Chevelle-list] Sneak peak
Hi everyone, Just to cut down on some bandwidth I'm not going to reply to each response to my post, but I do want to say Thanks to all of you for the kind words! You guys have always said good things about my car and I never get tired of hearing it - I really do appreciate it! The fact that Chuck did a color article on my car was great, I couldn't have asked for anything more. But to top it all off, he puts my baby on the cover - by itself and dead center - that was the best! Like any project that's never quite done, mine is still undergoing changes. Thanks to Clint I was able to get a set of Baer brakes and saved myself $600 by being part of a group purchase. I'm stepping up to 18 wheels and tires (both ordered and should be in before Christmas), and I'm planning some engine updates as well. Maybe if I make enough changes Chuck will want to do an update! ;) And Sarge, if I was able to help your wife see the light, then I'll have to say it was well worth it. There's nothing better than having your spouse share your interests and truly understand the driving force behind all the spending and the never ending wrench spinning. Speaking of which, my wife and I have spent the last few weeks trying to decide which wheels will look the best now that Mike has my Foose wheels. Again, thanks guys (and gals) and keep an eye on the newstand, hint, hint, PHR. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild
Guess I tapped the knowledge base with this one. Many points well taken. I think I'll let the spring tension and gravity do the work. Guess that's why the lowers aren't riveted in? The part about powder coated and grief got my attention. Sand contact area to bare metal? Neal S. 66 Malibu Convert.
RE: [Chevelle-list] RE: Oil Changes and changing oil.
It might sound strange, but laying on a cold concrete floor under your favorite car is much more comfortable and soothing than you would think. My wife has come down to the garage on a few occasions and found me out like a light! Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Vander Werf Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 9:05 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] RE: Oil Changes and changing oil. One of my dogs got concerned enough about me to wake me up under my car about 2AM one time. I was under there about 10PM checking things out and I guess my creeper was more comfortable than my bed. Bill Vander Werf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] RE: Oil Changes and changing oil. Mark, Yah its happenedbut what about when you fall asleep and take a nap under the car? lol -Tim
RE: [Chevelle-list] selling the El
John, I hate to see you sell your Elky because I know you've invested a lot of time and money in to it. But spending money on storage for a car you can't use or enjoy doesn't make sense. Unfortunately I don't have any place for you to keep it (I live in a town house) but I'm sure once you get the business where you want it, you'll be in a better position to get another car and be able to enjoy it after you're done building it. It gotta suck right now, but you'll most likely be better off in the long run. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do! Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:17 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] selling the El There arent any storage facilities anywhere near me where you could keep a car. Garages are extremely hard to find, and if you do find one, they go for about $200/month. So, I'd be looking at investing $2400/year just to have it sit in storage. I work 6 days a week if not 7. Last summer I didnt make it to any shows. The summer before that I made it to one. I recently took my Olds out of a garage because I hadnt driven it in 6 months. I've never driven the El Camino, except once in my friend Jack's back yard. I'm actually trying to sell both of my old cars so that I can continue to grow the business instead of just throwing thousands of dollars out the window every year on rented garages. I'll buy another one some day when I have a house and dont have to pay $200/month apiece to store them. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] selling the El John, What about some sorta storage facility? Theres a couple here that are just people that have a bunch of property, and store peoples cars, motorhomes, etcbut you could also go to a actual storage facilityJust a thought -Tim
RE: [Chevelle-list] Frameworks
Hi André, I'm not a frame builder by any means, but I have seen a few under construction. Most of them are built on a jig to ensure correct alignment of the pieces. Before you start cutting your stock frame apart, maybe you could build a jig to mount the frame so nothing moves when you start cutting. It's a lot of work now, but imagine how much work it will be if the frame ends up out of alignment after you're done installing the Corvette suspension! Food for thought. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tigergutt Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:45 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Frameworks Hi everyone, I'm now at that part of the project that splits men from the mice's, I have welded in two 2 (0,120 thick) tubes between the frame legs, one is under the cowl and one is where the radiator was supposed to be. My plan is now to cut out the original crossmember to adapt the corvette crossmember and parts, but I have kind of cold feet and doesnt know if its enough with those two tubes or if I have to weld in more stiffening tubes. Any framebuilders out there ?? or others that know anything about this ?? Thanks !! Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen
RE: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame
If you go to the link below, the forth picture down the page shows a good view of my frame before it was cleaned. It's not really a box. It might be cheaper and easier to get an Elky frame and shorten it behind the gas tank (it's C channel) if you really want a boxed frame. http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/El_Camino_Body.htm Herb Lumpp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Lessenberry Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:16 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame At 07:07 PM 12/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: Yes, you are trying to turn the C into a box, but it's easier to do and more solid with square stock or another C channel (facing the opposite way) than with flat stock. John Nasta OK, that makes sense. Seems like it would add a little extra weight though. I also think that if you added a X between the frame rails behind the trans crossmember to in front of the kick up that would stiffen it even better than boxing. BL
RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
Hi Mike, Since I sold you my wheels, I kinda feel responsible to help you make them fit! If you can't find anyone local to modify your 12 bolt, try Moser Engineering. They're in Portland, Indiana so shipping shouldn't be too bad. This link has a list of their shop services and prices... http://www.moserengineering.com/moser_interior/shopservices.htm BTW, I thought you were going to get the Tempest done before you start on the Elky? You're as bad as I am! :) I can't wait to see your '65 with those wheels! Herb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Holleman Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated. Mike Holleman
