RE: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification sequence

2005-11-02 Thread Pelle Andersson
There are tons of books out there but no step by step guide as far as I 
know!?


Example: 
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0879385693/ref%3Dpd%5Fsim%5Fb%5F3/102-3074323-3196934?%5Fencoding=UTF8v=glance




From: Ringlein Thomas J Capt 40 ELRF/CC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 07:21:05 -

Folks-

I am new to Team Chevelle - as of this morning in fact.  I have owned my
Chevelle since 1987, through High School, College, and beyond.  I am active
duty Air Force, and have an assignment to Fresno California pending for
April 2006.  Finally, I am in a position to retrieve my car from my 
father's

house in central California and dive into a rectification - but need a bit
of help.

I am fairly mechanically inclined, but have never disassembled a car 
before.

I want to do a complete frame-off rectification, complete with powder coat
to the frame, brake and power train upgrades, the full works.  But is there
a publication or book that outlines the best sequence of events for a
successful frame-off rectification?  I already have an assembly manual, and
have nearly read it cover to cover.  I have a positive attitude, and fairly
decent budget, and 3 years to complete the project.  In order not to mess
things up too bad, and make the road to success more smooth, I am just
looking for a playbook.  Does one exist?



Rinkys-

72 Chevelle Malibu in a state of disrepair

Diego Garcia, B.I.O.T.



THOMAS J. RINGLEIN, JR. Capt, USAF

Commander, Expeditionary Logistics Readiness Flight

40 ELRF/CC  DSN 315-370-3966  Pager 1460





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RE: [Chevelle-list] RE: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 28, Issue 4

2005-11-02 Thread Dan Mascheck
Thanks Clint! What do you think the largest tire and rim you can put on a 72
with out major mods?

-Original Message-
From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 7:52 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] RE: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 28, Issue 4

Nittos are very good tires,,if they build the size you need.
Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Mascheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Does any one have an opinion on going with Faulken or Nitto tires. What's
 everyone using?
   Dan Mascheck








Re: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification sequence

2005-11-02 Thread Larry Shouse



Welcome to the list Rinkys (Thomas?). I don't know 
of a "step by step" guide, but if there is one, one of the more knowledgeable 
folks here will speak up I'm sure. This list and said members have been a great 
source of info for me and my project.

Larry Shouse

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ringlein Thomas J Capt 40 
  ELRF/CC 
  To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 2:21 
  AM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - 
  Question regarding restification sequence
  
  
  Folks-
  I am new to Team Chevelle - as of 
  this morning in fact. I have owned my Chevelle since 1987, through High 
  School, College, and beyond. I am active duty Air Force, and have an 
  assignment to Fresno 
  California pending 
  for April 2006. Finally, I am in a position to retrieve my car from my 
  father's house in central California and dive 
  into a rectification - but need a bit of help.
  I am fairly mechanically inclined, 
  but have never disassembled a car before. I want to do a complete 
  frame-off rectification, complete with powder coat to the frame, brake and 
  power train upgrades, the full works. But is there a publication or book 
  that outlines the best sequence of events for a successful frame-off 
  rectification? I already have an assembly manual, and have nearly read 
  it cover to cover. I have a positive attitude, and fairly decent budget, 
  and 3 years to complete the project. In order not to mess things up too 
  bad, and make the road to success more smooth, I am just looking for a 
  "playbook." Does one exist?
  
  Rinkys-
  72 Chevelle Malibu in a 
  state of disrepair
  Diego Garcia, 
  B.I.O.T.
  
  THOMAS 
  J. RINGLEIN, JR. Capt, USAF
  Commander, 
  Expeditionary Logistics Readiness Flight
  40 ELRF/CC DSN 
  315-370-3966 Pager 1460
  


[Chevelle-list] Steering Ratio

2005-11-02 Thread Denny Shewmake

Hi, I'm back on the list after a long absence. Have read the archives on a regular basis.
I have a 71 Malibu 4 door. Been working on for several years,it is nowdrivable on a regular basis. Thisis occasional driver, no track time but occasional green light action (I'm 63).

I amreplacing the power steering pump and while I am at it, want to replace the steering gearbox. The power steering gearbox is available in quick ratio - 3.5 Lock to Lock, and Super Fast 2.5 LTL. I haveread the 2.5 is "twitchy". Does anyone have any experience or opinion on this? Leaning toward the 3.5 as it has now,butwould appreciatemore info.

Thanks, Denny





[Chevelle-list] Trans info

2005-11-02 Thread Craig Ellis



I stumbled across this last night while doing some research on my Dodge Ram 
transmission. This newsletter has some good content about what's up with the 
various transmissions and fluids. 

http://www.accuratetrans.com/newsletter.html



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810-388-1345 
www.neagroup.com 
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RE: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification sequence

2005-11-02 Thread John Nasta








1) get the car back



2) drive it for a year or two



3) work out any mechanical problems in the meantime



4) get it painted if it needs it



5) keep driving it



A restoration like you are talking about
takes a lot of time and a lot of money, and most people end up not wanting to
drive the car after that much work, or everywhere they go they worry about
every little thing. You also dont want to take it apart until you are very
familiar with it, and you have to realize that once you start taking it apart
it's going to be a long time before it's back together. My advice is to just
enjoy it for a while before you do anything else.








[Chevelle-list] long wait is over

2005-11-02 Thread Eddie Bumgarner
I finally got started on that 66 convertable I've had for about 14 years. I've been down some ruff roads since. But now its time to get ur done. I purchased a two post lift that makes my life alot easier, because my back is not in very good shape. I'll be sending pictures as it takes shape. I have a question about painting the frame. What is a good paint to use on the frame? Thanks Eddie Bumgarner.
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification sequence

2005-11-02 Thread Paul Kaiser



Welcome Thomas :-)

Begin with taking pictures of 
how its together first Digital if you can, (burn it on a disc) Then you can 
refer to it later.
put everything in baggies and 
label it where it came off, like it describes in the assy manual. Go to e-bay or 
local swapmeets for parts or options that you want and need.

take front clip 
off
body off
dissemble frame
rebuild 
drivetrain
have chrome re 
done
massage body back to 
health
paint body
Interior redo if it needs 
it
etc..

Best Regards
Paul
67 Elky
Az Chvl club
ACES

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ringlein Thomas J Capt 40 
  ELRF/CC 
  To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 12:21 
  AM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - 
  Question regarding restification sequence
  
  
  Folks-
  I am new to Team Chevelle - as of 
  this morning in fact. I have owned my Chevelle since 1987, through High 
  School, College, and beyond. I am active duty Air Force, and have an 
  assignment to Fresno 
  California pending 
  for April 2006. Finally, I am in a position to retrieve my car from my 
  father's house in central California and dive 
  into a rectification - but need a bit of help.
  I am fairly mechanically inclined, 
  but have never disassembled a car before. I want to do a complete 
  frame-off rectification, complete with powder coat to the frame, brake and 
  power train upgrades, the full works. But is there a publication or book 
  that outlines the best sequence of events for a successful frame-off 
  rectification? I already have an assembly manual, and have nearly read 
  it cover to cover. I have a positive attitude, and fairly decent budget, 
  and 3 years to complete the project. In order not to mess things up too 
  bad, and make the road to success more smooth, I am just looking for a 
  "playbook." Does one exist?
  
  Rinkys-
  72 Chevelle Malibu in a 
  state of disrepair
  Diego Garcia, 
  B.I.O.T.
  
  THOMAS 
  J. RINGLEIN, JR. Capt, USAF
  Commander, 
  Expeditionary Logistics Readiness Flight
  40 ELRF/CC DSN 
  315-370-3966 Pager 1460
  


Re: [Chevelle-list] 2 questions

2005-11-02 Thread Ron Menchey



I was using the stock 3:21..350 with auto..then I 
had the engine built to around 425 hp and installed a 3:73 so I could drag race 
every so often..I was thinking of going back to the 3:21 cuz I get tired of 
hearing the engine whine but now I am thinking of switching to a 4 sp so the 
gears I have in it will be fine.

Ron

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ryan 
  Langstraat 
  To: Chevelle Chat Forum 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 6:57 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] 2 
questions
  
  1) I was wondering what ring and 
  pinion gears you guys are using? I am looking for mostly cruising but 
  the occasional run isnt out of the question. What would you guys 
  suggest?
  
  
  2) I may come into ownership of a 69 Impala 
  this weekendI really dont have a huge use for it and was wondering if any 
  of you guys would be interested in it. I dont think it has a engine or 
  tranny but I havent looked at it real close yet. Let me know if at all 
  interested...
  
  
  
  Ryan


Re: [Chevelle-list] 2 questions

2005-11-02 Thread Bill Lessenberry


You do realize that a 4 speed will not change the engine speed don't
you? 4th gear is 1:1 just like 3rd is 1:1 in the
automatic. You'll have to get a 5 speed to have an overdrive.
BillL

At 08:29 AM 11/2/2005, you wrote:
I was
using the stock 3:21..350 with auto..then I had the engine built to
around 425 hp and installed a 3:73 so I could drag race every so often..I
was thinking of going back to the 3:21 cuz I get tired of hearing the
engine whine but now I am thinking of switching to a 4 sp so the gears I
have in it will be fine.

Ron



Re: [Chevelle-list] 4 link Suspension - 65 SS

2005-11-02 Thread Larry Williams
Thanks Mike and Clint for the info and advice.  I ended up buying 15 
rims from Jim Dyer Chevy Classics and will install 235 X 60s on the 
car.  Will use BFG DOTs (245s?) on the rear and  TAs on the front.


Larry 


Mike Holleman wrote:

Larry, I can't help with the four link, but I do have 235/60s on my 65 
with room for 245s.  My wheels are 14x7. with a 3.75 inch BS.

Hope this helps.
Mike
- Original Message - From: Larry Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Chevelle List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:23 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] 4 link Suspension - 65 SS



Hi Guys

As you know the 65 has a small wheel well which limits the tire 
size.  I use a 225 x 14 x 70 series BFG.  The rears are wore out and 
I need to find more traction.  I can't go inside with a wider rim to 
any extent.  I am considering going to a 4 link set up w/ coil overs 
and a slight tub with 15s at about 10 to 12 inches wide.  This a 
street car.  I will keep my 12 bolt and prefer to use the after 
market brackets.  I do not want to modify the frame other than 
brackets and cross members where necessary.  Do any of you have 
experience with this conversion?


Larry Williams



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Re: [Chevelle-list] RE: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 28, Issue 4

2005-11-02 Thread Clint Hooper
I've seen numerous 70-72 Chevelles and El Caminos out there with 17x11's and
315/35/17's on the rear.
Don't remember Falken or Nitto making that size,though.
Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Mascheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Thanks Clint! What do you think the largest tire and rim you can put on a
72
 with out major mods?

 -Original Message-
 From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Nittos are very good tires,,if they build the size you need.
 Clint Hooper
 HH Custom,owner
 1969 El Camino ProTourer
 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dan Mascheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  Does any one have an opinion on going with Faulken or Nitto tires.
What's
  everyone using?
Dan Mascheck











Re: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification sequence

2005-11-02 Thread Clint Hooper



Welcome to the List, Thomas. Glad to have you 
aboard.
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ringlein Thomas J Capt 40 
  ELRF/CC 
  
  
  Folks-
  I am new to Team Chevelle - as of 
  this morning in fact. I have owned my Chevelle since 1987, through High 
  School, College, and beyond. I am active duty Air Force, and have an 
  assignment to Fresno 
  California pending 
  for April 2006. Finally, I am in a position to retrieve my car from my 
  father's house in central California and dive 
  into a rectification - but need a bit of help.
  I am fairly mechanically inclined, 
  but have never disassembled a car before. I want to do a complete 
  frame-off rectification, complete with powder coat to the frame, brake and 
  power train upgrades, the full works. But is there a publication or book 
  that outlines the best sequence of events for a successful frame-off 
  rectification? I already have an assembly manual, and have nearly read 
  it cover to cover. I have a positive attitude, and fairly decent budget, 
  and 3 years to complete the project. In order not to mess things up too 
  bad, and make the road to success more smooth, I am just looking for a 
  "playbook." Does one exist?
  
  Rinkys-
  72 Chevelle Malibu in a 
  state of disrepair
  Diego Garcia, 
  B.I.O.T.
  
  THOMAS 
  J. RINGLEIN, JR. Capt, USAF
  Commander, 
  Expeditionary Logistics Readiness Flight
  40 ELRF/CC DSN 
  315-370-3966 Pager 1460
  


RE: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification sequence

2005-11-02 Thread Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3 CS/CCO



Welcome aboard Captain! ADAF here in AK. 

Sarge
69SS

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Ringlein 
  Thomas J Capt 40 ELRF/CCSent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:21 
  PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: 
  [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification 
  sequence
  
  Folks-
  I am new to Team Chevelle - as of 
  this morning in fact. I have owned my Chevelle since 1987, through High 
  School, College, and beyond. I am active duty Air Force, and have an 
  assignment to Fresno 
  California pending 
  for April 2006. Finally, I am in a position to retrieve my car from my 
  father's house in central California and dive 
  into a rectification - but need a bit of help.
  I am fairly mechanically inclined, 
  but have never disassembled a car before. I want to do a complete 
  frame-off rectification, complete with powder coat to the frame, brake and 
  power train upgrades, the full works. But is there a publication or book 
  that outlines the best sequence of events for a successful frame-off 
  rectification? I already have an assembly manual, and have nearly read 
  it cover to cover. I have a positive attitude, and fairly decent budget, 
  and 3 years to complete the project. In order not to mess things up too 
  bad, and make the road to success more smooth, I am just looking for a 
  "playbook." Does one exist?
  
  Rinkys-
  72 Chevelle Malibu in a 
  state of disrepair
  Diego Garcia, 
  B.I.O.T.
  
  THOMAS 
  J. RINGLEIN, JR. Capt, USAF
  Commander, 
  Expeditionary Logistics Readiness Flight
  40 ELRF/CC DSN 
  315-370-3966 Pager 1460
  


Re: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification sequence

2005-11-02 Thread Pelle Andersson



Listen to John!
I'm doing a rolling restore just to avoid the far 
too common pitfalls.
(Not enogh cash, time, energy, knowledge 
etc.)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Nasta 
  
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 2:30 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - 
  Question regarding restification sequence
  
  
  1) get the car back
  
  2) drive it for a year or 
  two
  
  3) work out any mechanical problems in 
  the meantime
  
  4) get it painted if it needs 
  it
  
  5) keep driving it
  
  A restoration like you are talking about 
  takes a lot of time and a lot of money, and most people end up not wanting to 
  drive the car after that much work, or everywhere they go they worry about 
  every little thing. You also don’t want to take it apart until you are very 
  familiar with it, and you have to realize that once you start taking it apart 
  it's going to be a long time before it's back together. My advice is to just 
  enjoy it for a while before you do anything else.


Re: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification sequence

2005-11-02 Thread Pelle Andersson



And of course welcome!
Sorry 'bout my manners, the solvents u know 
;-)

Pelle


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ringlein Thomas J Capt 40 
  ELRF/CC 
  To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:21 
  AM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - 
  Question regarding restification sequence
  
  
  Folks-
  I am new to Team Chevelle - as of 
  this morning in fact. I have owned my Chevelle since 1987, through High 
  School, College, and beyond. I am active duty Air Force, and have an 
  assignment to Fresno 
  California pending 
  for April 2006. Finally, I am in a position to retrieve my car from my 
  father's house in central California and dive 
  into a rectification - but need a bit of help.
  I am fairly mechanically inclined, 
  but have never disassembled a car before. I want to do a complete 
  frame-off rectification, complete with powder coat to the frame, brake and 
  power train upgrades, the full works. But is there a publication or book 
  that outlines the best sequence of events for a successful frame-off 
  rectification? I already have an assembly manual, and have nearly read 
  it cover to cover. I have a positive attitude, and fairly decent budget, 
  and 3 years to complete the project. In order not to mess things up too 
  bad, and make the road to success more smooth, I am just looking for a 
  "playbook." Does one exist?
  
  Rinkys-
  72 Chevelle Malibu in a 
  state of disrepair
  Diego Garcia, 
  B.I.O.T.
  
  THOMAS 
  J. RINGLEIN, JR. Capt, USAF
  Commander, 
  Expeditionary Logistics Readiness Flight
  40 ELRF/CC DSN 
  315-370-3966 Pager 1460
  


Re: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification sequence

2005-11-02 Thread Craig Ellis



I agree. The only way to do a resto is on the roll 
unless you can get the frame  body done in one winter. That means you must 
havea pro to do the bodywork and paint and another outfit blast and paint 
the frame. Then, it's the "If you give a mouse a cookie" routine...first you'll 
need a Currie rearend, then tubular A-arms, the Baer brakes, then a woopie 
radiator, and on and on and on and on. Then your wife will leave you anyway 
because, when the day is done, they really don't care all that much about cars. 
Then you'll be sitting in your garage with a six pack of cheap beer surrounded 
by car parts that you can't remember how they fit together. But at least 
you'll have a six pack...

Just put a BBC and a stick in it and do the rest as the 
parts break...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Pelle Andersson 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:34 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - 
  Question regarding restification sequence
  
  Listen to John!
  I'm doing a rolling restore just to avoid the far 
  too common pitfalls.
  (Not enogh cash, time, energy, knowledge 
  etc.)
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
John Nasta 

To: The Chevelle Mailing List 

Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 2:30 
PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - 
Question regarding restification sequence


1) get the car back

2) drive it for a year or 
two

3) work out any mechanical problems in 
the meantime

4) get it painted if it needs 
it

5) keep driving it

A restoration like you are talking 
about takes a lot of time and a lot of money, and most people end up not 
wanting to drive the car after that much work, or everywhere they go they 
worry about every little thing. You also don’t want to take it apart until 
you are very familiar with it, and you have to realize that once you start 
taking it apart it's going to be a long time before it's back together. My 
advice is to just enjoy it for a while before you do anything 
else.


Re: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification sequence

2005-11-02 Thread Ron Malespin




That was funny and very true Craig. LOL

  - Original Message - 
  From: Craig Ellis 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:16 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - 
  Question regarding restification sequence
  
  I agree. The only way to do a resto is on the roll 
  unless you can get the frame  body done in one winter. That means you 
  must havea pro to do the bodywork and paint and another outfit blast and 
  paint the frame. Then, it's the "If you give a mouse a cookie" routine...first 
  you'll need a Currie rearend, then tubular A-arms, the Baer brakes, then a 
  woopie radiator, and on and on and on and on. Then your wife will leave you 
  anyway because, when the day is done, they really don't care all that much 
  about cars. Then you'll be sitting in your garage with a six pack of cheap 
  beer surrounded by car parts that you can't remember how they fit 
  together. But at least you'll have a six pack...
  
  Just put a BBC and a stick in it and do the rest as 
  the parts break...
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Pelle Andersson 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 

Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:34 
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - 
Question regarding restification sequence

Listen to John!
I'm doing a rolling restore just to avoid the 
far too common pitfalls.
(Not enogh cash, time, energy, knowledge 
etc.)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John 
  Nasta 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 
  2:30 PM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - 
  Question regarding restification sequence
  
  
  1) get the car 
  back
  
  2) drive it for a year or 
  two
  
  3) work out any mechanical problems 
  in the meantime
  
  4) get it painted if it needs 
  it
  
  5) keep driving it
  
  A restoration like you are talking 
  about takes a lot of time and a lot of money, and most people end up not 
  wanting to drive the car after that much work, or everywhere they go they 
  worry about every little thing. You also don’t want to take it apart until 
  you are very familiar with it, and you have to realize that once you start 
  taking it apart it's going to be a long time before it's back together. My 
  advice is to just enjoy it for a while before you do anything 
  else.


Re: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification sequence

2005-11-02 Thread mike f
Pretty much the way it is.
mike

--- Craig Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree. The only way to do a resto is on the roll
 unless you can get the frame  body done in one
 winter. That means you must have a pro to do the
 bodywork and paint and another outfit blast and
 paint the frame. Then, it's the If you give a mouse
 a cookie routine...first you'll need a Currie
 rearend, then tubular A-arms, the Baer brakes, then
 a woopie radiator, and on and on and on and on. Then
 your wife will leave you anyway because, when the
 day is done, they really don't care all that much
 about cars. Then you'll be sitting in your garage
 with a six pack of cheap beer surrounded by car
 parts that you can't remember how they fit together.
  But at least you'll have a six pack...
 
 Just put a BBC and a stick in it and do the rest as
 the parts break...
   - Original Message - 
   From: Pelle Andersson 
   To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
   Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:34 PM
   Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question
 regarding restification sequence
 
 
   Listen to John!
   I'm doing a rolling restore just to avoid the far
 too common pitfalls.
   (Not enogh cash, time, energy, knowledge etc.)
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Nasta 
 To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 2:30 PM
 Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question
 regarding restification sequence
 
 
 1) get the car back
 
  
 
 2) drive it for a year or two
 
  
 
 3) work out any mechanical problems in the
 meantime
 
  
 
 4) get it painted if it needs it
 
  
 
 5) keep driving it
 
  
 
 A restoration like you are talking about takes a
 lot of time and a lot of money, and most people end
 up not wanting to drive the car after that much
 work, or everywhere they go they worry about every
 little thing. You also don't want to take it apart
 until you are very familiar with it, and you have to
 realize that once you start taking it apart it's
 going to be a long time before it's back together.
 My advice is to just enjoy it for a while before you
 do anything else.
 





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RE: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification sequence

2005-11-02 Thread Rozanski Joe (AP/EDC)



hey craig,
you wrote my life story in one 
paragraph!
man do i suck,
but i have a fast car...



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig 
EllisSent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 3:17 PMTo: The 
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question 
regarding restification sequence

I agree. The only way to do a resto is on the roll 
unless you can get the frame  body done in one winter. That means you must 
havea pro to do the bodywork and paint and another outfit blast and paint 
the frame. Then, it's the "If you give a mouse a cookie" routine...first you'll 
need a Currie rearend, then tubular A-arms, the Baer brakes, then a woopie 
radiator, and on and on and on and on. Then your wife will leave you anyway 
because, when the day is done, they really don't care all that much about cars. 
Then you'll be sitting in your garage with a six pack of cheap beer surrounded 
by car parts that you can't remember how they fit together. But at least 
you'll have a six pack...

Just put a BBC and a stick in it and do the rest as the 
parts break...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Pelle Andersson 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:34 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - 
  Question regarding restification sequence
  
  Listen to John!
  I'm doing a rolling restore just to avoid the far 
  too common pitfalls.
  (Not enogh cash, time, energy, knowledge 
  etc.)
  
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From: 
John Nasta 

To: The Chevelle Mailing List 

Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 2:30 
PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - 
Question regarding restification sequence


1) get the car back

2) drive it for a year or 
two

3) work out any mechanical problems in 
the meantime

4) get it painted if it needs 
it

5) keep driving it

A restoration like you are talking 
about takes a lot of time and a lot of money, and most people end up not 
wanting to drive the car after that much work, or everywhere they go they 
worry about every little thing. You also dont want to take it apart until 
you are very familiar with it, and you have to realize that once you start 
taking it apart it's going to be a long time before it's back together. My 
advice is to just enjoy it for a while before you do anything 
else.


RE: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification sequence

2005-11-02 Thread John Nasta









Very funny Craig. If you do enough 12-ounce
curls you can end up with six-pack abs.








RE: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze

2005-11-02 Thread John Nasta
Well, I started flushing out the orange stuff today. I drained the radiator
by opening the petcock and also disconnecting the lower radiator hose, then
refilled it and ran the engine until it was hot, then repeated that sequence
about three more times before what came out finally started looking pretty
much clear. It's not supposed to freeze here tonight so I'll drive it a
little tomorrow and then drain it one more time to see if it looks clear. If
it does I'll refill with water and then drain half the system (need to look
up what the total capacity is and then take half of that out) and refill w/
the green stuff.

Too bad I didn't know this sooner. I had been running straight water and
just put the orange stuff in yesterday. :(




Re: [Chevelle-list] 2 questions

2005-11-02 Thread Ron Menchey



Yep I know that,just think the 3:73's will give it 
more zip through first and second,that is if I still want to race.
Thanks
Ron

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bill 
  Lessenberry 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:40 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 2 
  questions
  You do realize that a 4 speed will not change the engine speed 
  don't you? 4th gear is 1:1 just like 3rd is 1:1 in the 
  automatic. You'll have to get a 5 speed to have an 
  overdrive.BillLAt 08:29 AM 11/2/2005, you wrote:
  I was 
using the stock 3:21..350 with auto..then I had the engine built to around 
425 hp and installed a 3:73 so I could drag race every so often..I was 
thinking of going back to the 3:21 cuz I get tired of hearing the engine 
whine but now I am thinking of switching to a 4 sp so the gears I have in it 
will be fine.Ron


Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze

2005-11-02 Thread Mike Holleman
John, The best way to mix your antifreeze is use a clean drain pan, five 
gallon bucket etc. dump in two gallons of AntiFreeze and two gallons of 
distilled water, mix it up. Then pour through a funnel into the radiator. I 
use a funnel with screen just to be safe. If you have leftover, mark one of 
your now empty jugs as premixed and use this to add later. Your Elky will 
hold most of four gallons if it is completely drained.

Mike
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From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 4:29 PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze


Well, I started flushing out the orange stuff today. I drained the 
radiator
by opening the petcock and also disconnecting the lower radiator hose, 
then
refilled it and ran the engine until it was hot, then repeated that 
sequence

about three more times before what came out finally started looking pretty
much clear. It's not supposed to freeze here tonight so I'll drive it a
little tomorrow and then drain it one more time to see if it looks clear. 
If
it does I'll refill with water and then drain half the system (need to 
look
up what the total capacity is and then take half of that out) and refill 
w/

the green stuff.

Too bad I didn't know this sooner. I had been running straight water and
just put the orange stuff in yesterday. :(




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RE: [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification sequence

2005-11-02 Thread John W. Lonadier, Jr.
Title: Message



Welcome to the list. You will find a wealth of knowledge 
here.


John L.
ACES #5597
70 LS5TRIBUTE
http://chevellfan.com/index89.html

  
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  Thomas J Capt 40 ELRF/CCSent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:21 
  AMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: 
  [Chevelle-list] Newbie - Question regarding restification 
  sequence
  
  Folks-
  I am new to Team Chevelle - as of 
  this morning in fact. I have owned my Chevelle since 1987, through High 
  School, College, and beyond. I am active duty Air Force, and have an 
  assignment to Fresno 
  California pending 
  for April 2006. Finally, I am in a position to retrieve my car from my 
  father's house in central California and dive 
  into a rectification - but need a bit of help.
  I am fairly mechanically inclined, 
  but have never disassembled a car before. I want to do a complete 
  frame-off rectification, complete with powder coat to the frame, brake and 
  power train upgrades, the full works. But is there a publication or book 
  that outlines the best sequence of events for a successful frame-off 
  rectification? I already have an assembly manual, and have nearly read 
  it cover to cover. I have a positive attitude, and fairly decent budget, 
  and 3 years to complete the project. In order not to mess things up too 
  bad, and make the road to success more smooth, I am just looking for a 
  "playbook." Does one exist?
  
  Rinkys-
  72 Chevelle Malibu in a 
  state of disrepair
  Diego Garcia, 
  B.I.O.T.
  
  THOMAS 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] 2 questions

2005-11-02 Thread Ron Menchey



I think 4.10 are a tad too steep for me,I like to 
go on a cruise and not have the engine whine that high at cruise speed.But your 
car,ya can do what floats your boat.

Ron

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Craig Ellis 
  
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:03 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 2 
  questions
  
  I agree. I've got 3.42s and I'm changing them out this 
  winter for 4.10s...
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Ron 
Menchey 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 

Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 4:51 
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 2 
questions

Yep I know that,just think the 3:73's will give 
it more zip through first and second,that is if I still want to 
race.
Thanks
Ron

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bill 
  Lessenberry 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 
  10:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 2 
  questions
  You do realize that a 4 speed will not change the engine 
  speed don't you? 4th gear is 1:1 just like 3rd is 1:1 in the 
  automatic. You'll have to get a 5 speed to have an 
  overdrive.BillLAt 08:29 AM 11/2/2005, you wrote:
  I was 
using the stock 3:21..350 with auto..then I had the engine built to 
around 425 hp and installed a 3:73 so I could drag race every so 
often..I was thinking of going back to the 3:21 cuz I get tired of 
hearing the engine whine but now I am thinking of switching to a 4 sp so 
the gears I have in it will be fine.Ron


Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze

2005-11-02 Thread Michael Pell
I've always just dumped in 2 gal of antifreeze, then fill with water  
(on a completely drained system that is).

I figure it'll get mixed up pretty well soon enough.  ;-)

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Mike Holleman wrote:

John, The best way to mix your antifreeze is use a clean drain pan, 
five gallon bucket etc. dump in two gallons of AntiFreeze and two 
gallons of distilled water, mix it up. Then pour through a funnel into 
the radiator. I use a funnel with screen just to be safe. If you have 
leftover, mark one of your now empty jugs as premixed and use this to 
add later. Your Elky will hold most of four gallons if it is 
completely drained.

Mike
- Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 4:29 PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze


Well, I started flushing out the orange stuff today. I drained the 
radiator
by opening the petcock and also disconnecting the lower radiator 
hose, then
refilled it and ran the engine until it was hot, then repeated that 
sequence
about three more times before what came out finally started looking 
pretty

much clear. It's not supposed to freeze here tonight so I'll drive it a
little tomorrow and then drain it one more time to see if it looks 
clear. If
it does I'll refill with water and then drain half the system (need 
to look
up what the total capacity is and then take half of that out) and 
refill w/

the green stuff.

Too bad I didn't know this sooner. I had been running straight water and
just put the orange stuff in yesterday. :(




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Re: [Chevelle-list] 2 questions

2005-11-02 Thread Clint Hooper



I'm running 4.11 cogs in back. In 4th gear at 
70mph,I'm seeing 4,000rpm. In 5th,3,000rpm. And,in 6th,2,000rpm.
These numbers are with a 26" diameter 335/35/17 
tire.
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ron 
  Menchey 
  
  I think 4.10 are a tad too steep for me,I like to 
  go on a cruise and not have the engine whine that high at cruise speed.But 
  your car,ya can do what floats your boat.
  
  Ron
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Craig Ellis 


I agree. I've got 3.42s and I'm changing them out 
this winter for 4.10s...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ron Menchey 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 
  4:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 2 
  questions
  
  Yep I know that,just think the 3:73's will 
  give it more zip through first and second,that is if I still want to 
  race.
  Thanks
  Ron
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Bill Lessenberry 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 

Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 
10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 2 
questions
You do realize that a 4 speed will not change the engine 
speed don't you? 4th gear is 1:1 just like 3rd is 1:1 in the 
automatic. You'll have to get a 5 speed to have an 
overdrive.BillLAt 08:29 AM 11/2/2005, you wrote:
I 
  was using the stock 3:21..350 with auto..then I had the engine built 
  to around 425 hp and installed a 3:73 so I could drag race every so 
  often..I was thinking of going back to the 3:21 cuz I get tired of 
  hearing the engine whine but now I am thinking of switching to a 4 sp 
  so the gears I have in it will be fine.Ron


Re: [Chevelle-list] Chassis Stiffening

2005-11-02 Thread Kyle Bennett
Would you happen to have any pictures or sketches of what you have 
doneor going to do. It would REALLY be helpful at this point since i'm 
still at the planning stage of this chassis.


Thank you, Kyle

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To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chassis Stiffening


Hi Kyle,

I am doing that to my chassis right now.
boxing plates is according to me a good idea, but the x-brace will not work 
out very

well due to the fact that our chevelles dont have a flat floor.
What I have done is a crossmember in the rear of the frame, just in front of 
the

lower rear trailing arms.
I'll put three big holes in that, two for the exhaust and one for the 
driveshaft (I
wont use a big loop since I'm going corvette rear suspension and that wont 
move up

and down).
The crossmember is nice but it will eat up some muffler space.

Remember that if you go welding in the frame, put it on a jig (I have put 
mine in a

flat surface and put some heavy weights on top of it so it wont move).
it all depends on how far you want to go :o)

André

I now have the body off of my 71 chevelle and i will soon be replacing 
everything on
the chassis. But before i begin any paint/powdercoating on the chassis, i 
thought

about bracing the chassis.

Here's what i thought about. Boxing the side rails of the frame and then 
welding an
X in the center of the chassis while incorporating a ring/hoop/eyelet or 
what ever
you want to call it for the draveshaft to go through. I also thought about 
doing 2

smaller holes for the exhaust to rought through.

Does this sound like a good idea. Once the car is together, i'll drive it 
hard from

time to time, but mostly a daily driver.

Also, does anyone know of a website that shows pictures of anyone who may 
of added

any strengthening members to the chevelle chassis.

Thanks,
Kyle








[Chevelle-list] Decoding

2005-11-02 Thread Ryan Langstraat



I was wondering if someone out there knew of a good 
web page that decodes Impala rear end stampings? I Havent found one yet 
but I will keep looking...


Thanks
Ryan