Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message-From: Karl Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Welcome aboard, Karl. Good luck with you project. Rich -Original Message- From: Karl Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 4, 2006 5:19 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more practical vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and always planned on working on it but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to hot wire the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the resto-rod thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
BTW, I used my "Mulligan" on my first wife as well. Same thing, this one isn't really into this either, but is starting to come around. She actually went to a cruse last 4th of July with me and enjoyed herself. Rich-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 5, 2006 8:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message-From: Karl Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr or two. Ron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message-From: Karl Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
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RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one! LOL! When I met my first wife, I had a 77 Z/28, 350, 10:1, 286 cam, roller valvetrain, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Pete Jackson gear drive, Performer RPM, Performer Carb, TCI Streetfighter 350 trans, BM Holeshot convertor, 3.73 rear, MSD, all that. Man she hated that car! She *constantly* harped on me, saying the car stank and was too noisy. There wasn't a day that went by that she didn't holler at me about the car. The current wife is much more supportive so far, but I'm still a bit hesitant to see how she'll handle the time it'll take to put in to it. Anyone have any tips on how to balance not putting in too much time with also trying to avoid hearing the inevitable "that thing is an eyesore, why is it just sitting there?" Karl GrovesMaster Certified CIWhttp://www.karlgroves.com From: Ron Menchey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:12 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr or two. Ron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message-From: Karl Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Karl, My 'new' wife grew up with an older brother and his friends in rural South Carolina... she knows that boys like to 'play cars'. So long as we get to spend some time together during the week, she knows that I need time to myself in the shop, and sometimes I need other friends to come over so we can 'play cars and motorcycles' and during especially geeky times, 'play computers'. Honestly it's different for all women, and I truly think it's how you respect her time and needs. Besides, she's got a project car that I'm working on as well, so I've got good reason to spend all hours in the shop, only to come to be smelling like kerosene, grease and orange Go-Jo. -- Shawn Price Network Team Lead Technology Solutions Morrison Homes 404-427-8229 On Jan 5, 2006, at 8:38 AM, Karl Groves wrote: I'm glad to see I'm not the only one! LOL! When I met my first wife, I had a 77 Z/28, 350, 10:1, 286 cam, roller valvetrain, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Pete Jackson gear drive, Performer RPM, Performer Carb, TCI Streetfighter 350 trans, BM Holeshot convertor, 3.73 rear, MSD, all that. Man she hated that car! She *constantly* harped on me, saying the car stank and was too noisy. There wasn't a day that went by that she didn't holler at me about the car. The current wife is much more supportive so far, but I'm still a bit hesitant to see how she'll handle the time it'll take to put in to it. Anyone have any tips on how to balance not putting in too much time with also trying to avoid hearing the inevitable that thing is an eyesore, why is it just sitting there? Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com From: Ron Menchey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:12 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ..34 yrs and counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr or two. Ron x-tad-bigger- Original Message -/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger[EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger[EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger ; /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerChevelle-list@chevelles.net/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03 AM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerCongratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car your wife!!! /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerPhil G. 65 SS/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger-Original Message-/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerFrom: Karl Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED]>/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions/x-tad-bigger Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more practical vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and always planned on working on it but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The
Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Glad you guys got it right the second time! I did it right the first time. My wife buys me tools as presents(glass Bead cabinet for Christmas!!)...awesome...she probably got it from her dad(30+ Ford mechanic). Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm - Original Message - From: Ron Menchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 5, 2006 8:12 am Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr or two. Ron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message- From: Karl Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500 Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more practical vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and always planned on working on it but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to hot wire the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventuallygoing to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the resto-rod thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West
This sounds, to me, like growing pains. Global West, like Baer may have too much success. A situation we all would like to be busines owners of. lol mike --- Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, I've equipped my El with all GW stuff but never had any issues with missing parts/boxes. Maybe this was one of those things that slipped through the cracks and wasn't caught until you opened your boxes. I guess the nice thing is you didn't get any resistance from them and got your parts in the end. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Mascheck Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Global West Has anyone had any problems with Global West? November I bought a complete Cat 5 system front to rear suspension for my 72 Chevelle. Over 5 grand++. They shipped the packages, and I have a mechanic I work with on my car to help install all the new stuff correctly. Well...when they shipped the boxes. I loaded it into the mechanics truck, he took it home to his shop and never opened the boxes like he said he would. All this time I thought we had everything.. We have been very busy for months. The mechanic opened the boxes Monday and noticed there were no spindles or brakes, everything else was there. I thought I was going to have a major problem talking to Global West two months later to find out what happened. I called yesterday, and they said oh yes it was all shipped! After further investigation, they found out there was a back order on the spindles and brakes, so..they sent them today! The big quiz iswhy they never said anything about the back order to me for two months. The A arms are phenomenally built. I am very happy with what I did receive! I was really surprised about no notification. I guess it was my fault for not opening the boxes. Oh Well!! Dan Mascheck Wharton, TX __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
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Gosh, Are you sure Y'all first wives was not my first wife sisters ! Got married B-4 I went across the big pond 1966.( thank you Uncle sam ) Spent the next 14 years in a battle over mostly my Cars.. Only time she liked them is when I sold one or got a pay day from doing work ( i was rebuilding corvettes and doing repair/upgrade work besides my regular job) IN a last ditch effort to save our relationship.. I sold my 37 chevy Coupe,56 Chevy Nomad,56 Chevy HT and 67 Corvette. Well. 13 months later I came home to an empty home. No $$$ in the bank and 10 months of unpaid bill and maxed out credit card's plue lowest of lows, the Bitch even hall-ed off my duel Snap on roller cabinet and all my tools [EMAIL PROTECTED]( another 4 years of payment to the Snap on Man and no tools) My 2nd Love 24 years and going strong. understands nothing about cars. or Electronics ( my other hobby) but then again I understand nothing about Art. Or Sting chamber Music But we support each others interest no mater how varied they my be. She go's to like the NE Chevelle Weekend and Reads But I then go and sit through renditions of Bach, Hayden or Mortzart... Example lasts nights Rose bowl.. She has 0 interest in football but sat with me through the whole game with out one negative word .. But the other side of that coin..over the weekend a move was on TCM from the 40's. Some BW big musical dance thing... she knew all the actors the composer the set designer..I sat an enjoyed it with her. So speaking like Dr.Phill IMO you need a person who respects your interest and YOU must respect hers no mater how painful or weird you think they are... Wayne ACES 1556 TC 186 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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You nailed it Wayne. Respect for each other in every way imaginable. I truly feel that's the root of any good relationship. -- Shawn Price Network Team Lead Technology Solutions Morrison Homes 404-427-8229 On Jan 5, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Wayne Kline wrote: Gosh, Are you sure Y'all first wives was not my first wife sisters ! Got married B-4 I went across the big pond 1966.( thank you Uncle sam ) Spent the next 14 years in a battle over mostly my Cars.. Only time she liked them is when I sold one or got a pay day from doing work ( i was rebuilding corvettes and doing repair/upgrade work besides my regular job) IN a last ditch effort to save our relationship.. I sold my 37 chevy Coupe,56 Chevy Nomad,56 Chevy HT and 67 Corvette. Well. 13 months later I came home to an empty home. No $$$ in the bank and 10 months of unpaid bill and maxed out credit card's plue lowest of lows, the Bitch even hall-ed off my duel Snap on roller cabinet and all my tools [EMAIL PROTECTED]( another 4 years of payment to the Snap on Man and no tools) My 2nd Love 24 years and going strong. understands nothing about cars. or Electronics ( my other hobby) but then again I understand nothing about Art. Or Sting chamber Music But we support each others interest no mater how varied they my be. She go's to like the NE Chevelle Weekend and Reads But I then go and sit through renditions of Bach, Hayden or Mortzart... Example lasts nights Rose bowl.. She has 0 interest in football but sat with me through the whole game with out one negative word .. But the other side of that coin..over the weekend a move was on TCM from the 40's. Some BW big musical dance thing... she knew all the actors the composer the set designer..I sat an enjoyed it with her. So speaking like Dr.Phill IMO you need a person who respects your interest and YOU must respect hers no mater how painful or weird you think they are... Wayne ACES 1556 TC 186 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [Chevelle-list] what year is yours?
ron g. 65ss clone and 64 4dr. pro street wagon --- bob howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like there are not very many 64 and 65 chevelle's or elkys that are owned by people on the list . What do most people have , by year. Just for my information. Bob 64SS chevelle 65SS chevelle __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
[Chevelle-list] Manual steering brakes
I'm going to look at a '65 4-door 300 Deluxe this weekend and the seller told me it has manual steering and brakes. Those of you who've dealt with this setup, does it make a car significantly less enjoyable and more demanding to drive for any length of time? I'll probably be able to take it for a short test drive (weather permitting) but I don't know if that'll be enough time to get a really good feel for it. Thanks! Brad ---BeginMessage--- I'm glad to see I'm not the only one! LOL! When I met my first wife, I had a 77 Z/28, 350, 10:1, 286 cam, roller valvetrain, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Pete Jackson gear drive, Performer RPM, Performer Carb, TCI Streetfighter 350 trans, BM Holeshot convertor, 3.73 rear, MSD, all that. Man she hated that car! She *constantly* harped on me, saying the car stank and was too noisy. There wasn't a day that went by that she didn't holler at me about the car. The current wife is much more supportive so far, but I'm still a bit hesitant to see how she'll handle the time it'll take to put in to it. Anyone have any tips on how to balance not putting in too much time with also trying to avoid hearing the inevitable "that thing is an eyesore, why is it just sitting there?" Karl GrovesMaster Certified CIWhttp://www.karlgroves.com From: Ron Menchey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:12 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr or two. Ron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message-From: Karl Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the "resto-rod" thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW
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Hi Karl and welcome to the list. I've been on the list since I bought my dream car in April '05 . I guess I am one the lucky few that have the best of both worlds A wife of 29 years that enjoys the car as much as I do and having my dream car . Good luck on your projectyou'll find a wealth of information from the guys here on the list. Pete Hnat '69 Chevelle SS Apex, N.C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl Groves Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 5:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more practical vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and always planned on working on it but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to hot wire the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm psyched to have it. The point, to me, of owning an old car is to work on it. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to have the car already done for him. To me, the joy comes from knowing I'm eventually going to touch every nut and bolt on this car. I plan on doing the resto-rod thing - making it look mostly stock, except for a few upgrades to the interior such as seats and dash stuff. All best are off for the drive train, suspension, and breaks though. Anyway, enough babbling from me. I'm very glad to have found this list. Last, can someone tell me something about my car from this VIN? 136371B202451 Thanks! Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] Manual steering brakes
Hi Brad, My '66 is manual steering and brakes. You just have to be aware of stopping early, and turning from a dead stop can take a little energy, but I always look at it as exercise I can use 8^] Once the car is up and rolling, the steering is cake. Regards, Jim '66 Malibu --- Brad Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to look at a '65 4-door 300 Deluxe this weekend and the seller told me it has manual steering and brakes. Those of you who've dealt with this setup, does it make a car significantly less enjoyable and more demanding to drive for any length of time? I'll probably be able to take it for a short test drive (weather permitting) but I don't know if that'll be enough time to get a really good feel for it. Thanks! Brad From: Karl Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 14:59:57 + - I'm glad to see I'm not the only one! LOL! When I met my first wife, I had a 77 Z/28, 350, 10:1, 286 cam, roller valvetrain, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Pete Jackson gear drive, Performer RPM, Performer Carb, TCI Streetfighter 350 trans, BM Holeshot convertor, 3.73 rear, MSD, all that. Man she hated that car! She *constantly* harped on me, saying the car stank and was too noisy. There wasn't a day that went by that she didn't holler at me about the car. The current wife is much more supportive so far, but I'm still a bit hesitant to see how she'll handle the time it'll take to put in to it. Anyone have any tips on how to balance not putting in too much time with also trying to avoid hearing the inevitable that thing is an eyesore, why is it just sitting there? Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com - From: Ron Menchey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:12 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr or two. Ron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message- From: Karl Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500 Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions .AOLPlainTextBody { FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff}.AOLPlainTextBody PRE { FONT-SIZE: 9pt}.AOLInlineAttachment { MARGIN: 10px}.AOLAttachmentHeader { BACKGROUND: #f9f9f9; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e9eaeb 2px solid}.AOLAttachmentHeader .Title {PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; BACKGROUND: #e9eaeb; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; FONT: bold 11px Tahoma; COLOR: #66; PADDING-TOP: 3px}.AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldLabel { PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 9px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; FONT: bold 11px Tahoma; COLOR: #66; PADDING-TOP: 1px}.AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldValue { FONT: 11px Tahoma; COLOR: #33} Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before Istart posting.My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle.I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro whenI was in high school.I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray.I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of myZ/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long withher.Since 1998, I've been driving more practical vehicles and my livingarrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on.The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the sidemoney I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a projectcar.The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor
[Chevelle-list] Re: manual steering and brakes
Hi Brad, My '66 is manual steering and brakes. You just have to be aware of stopping early, and turning from a dead stop can take a little energy, but I always look at it as exercise I can use 8^] Once the car is up and rolling, the steering is cake. Regards, Jim '66 Malibu __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
RE: [Chevelle-list] Manual steering brakes
Brad, If you like the car enough to buy it, upgrading it to power steering and brakes isn't a big deal and can be as cheap or expensive as you're willing. If you do buy the car, manual steering and brakes aren't that hard to live with. Stock manual steering has a very loose ratio so turning at slow speeds isn't as bad as many people think. Manual (drum I assume) brakes can work pretty good if you take the time to make sure everything is in proper working order and the parts are dirt cheap at your local auto stores. Of course, manual brakes - regardless of how good you think they work - will never equal the stopping power of disc brakes. But again, that's an upgrade you can tackle down the road. The primary concern is whether or not the car itself is worth buying. Good luck! Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brad Olson Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:08 AM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Manual steering brakes I'm going to look at a '65 4-door 300 Deluxe this weekend and the seller told me it has manual steering and brakes. Those of you who've dealt with this setup, does it make a car significantly less enjoyable and more demanding to drive for any length of time? I'll probably be able to take it for a short test drive (weather permitting) but I don't know if that'll be enough time to get a really good feel for it. Thanks! Brad
RE: [Chevelle-list] Manual steering brakes
My '70 Camaro had manual steering. It was a big PITA to parallel park, but otherwise I got used to it pretty quick. I don't know enough about what the difference would be for a bigger car like that 4-door 300 Deluxe, but I imagine that it can't be much worse. Besides, it's a good workout! ;-) Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com -Original Message- From: Brad Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:08 AM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Manual steering brakes I'm going to look at a '65 4-door 300 Deluxe this weekend and the seller told me it has manual steering and brakes. Those of you who've dealt with this setup, does it make a car significantly less enjoyable and more demanding to drive for any length of time? I'll probably be able to take it for a short test drive (weather permitting) but I don't know if that'll be enough time to get a really good feel for it. Thanks! Brad
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Truer words were never spokenYa got to respect each otherYea I was in Nam for a bit my own self..Your first sounds like mine..by the time I got back home after saying good bye to her,she and her mom had all my cards maxed out and tons of other bills...took me over 5 yrs to pay off...worst thing was my HUGE record collection,with tons of out of print now albums,was sent to me in a huge box...she melted them all into a huge ball...that was cold.. Mench - Original Message - From: Wayne Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:41 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Gosh, Are you sure Y'all first wives was not my first wife sisters ! Got married B-4 I went across the big pond 1966.( thank you Uncle sam ) Spent the next 14 years in a battle over mostly my Cars.. Only time she liked them is when I sold one or got a pay day from doing work ( i was rebuilding corvettes and doing repair/upgrade work besides my regular job) IN a last ditch effort to save our relationship.. I sold my 37 chevy Coupe,56 Chevy Nomad,56 Chevy HT and 67 Corvette. Well. 13 months later I came home to an empty home. No $$$ in the bank and 10 months of unpaid bill and maxed out credit card's plue lowest of lows, the Bitch even hall-ed off my duel Snap on roller cabinet and all my tools [EMAIL PROTECTED]( another 4 years of payment to the Snap on Man and no tools) My 2nd Love 24 years and going strong. understands nothing about cars. or Electronics ( my other hobby) but then again I understand nothing about Art. Or Sting chamber Music But we support each others interest no mater how varied they my be. She go's to like the NE Chevelle Weekend and Reads But I then go and sit through renditions of Bach, Hayden or Mortzart... Example lasts nights Rose bowl.. She has 0 interest in football but sat with me through the whole game with out one negative word .. But the other side of that coin..over the weekend a move was on TCM from the 40's. Some BW big musical dance thing... she knew all the actors the composer the set designer..I sat an enjoyed it with her. So speaking like Dr.Phill IMO you need a person who respects your interest and YOU must respect hers no mater how painful or weird you think they are... Wayne ACES 1556 TC 186 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Olson) Subject: [Chevelle-list] Manual steering brakes I'm going to look at a '65 4-door 300 Deluxe this weekend and the seller told me it has manual steering and brakes. Those of you who've dealt with this setup, does it make a car significantly less enjoyable and more demanding to drive for any length of time? I'll probably be able to take it for a short test drive (weather permitting) but I don't know if that'll be enough time to get a really good feel for it. Thanks! 64 and 65's are pretty light. Still you'll notice the lack of power steering more than the brakes. Especially when parallel parking and making quick changes in direction like in parking lots. More offensive to me is the slow, slow ratio, almost five turns lock to lock I think. I've only had one Chevelle with power brakes. The others stop just fine. When my 4 dr gets front discs it will still be non-powered. disclaimer: I weigh over 200 lbs and bicycles are my other hobby so when I stomp on something like the brake pedal it knows it! ; ) Pete Geurds Douglassville, PA ---BeginMessage--- I'm glad to see I'm not the only one! LOL! When I met my first wife, I had a 77 Z/28, 350, 10:1, 286 cam, roller valvetrain, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Pete Jackson gear drive, Performer RPM, Performer Carb, TCI Streetfighter 350 trans, BM Holeshot convertor, 3.73 rear, MSD, all that. Man she hated that car! She *constantly* harped on me, saying the car stank and was too noisy. There wasn't a day that went by that she didn't holler at me about the car. The current wife is much more supportive so far, but I'm still a bit hesitant to see how she'll handle the time it'll take to put in to it. Anyone have any tips on how to balance not putting in too much time with also trying to avoid hearing the inevitable "that thing is an eyesore, why is it just sitting there?" Karl GrovesMaster Certified CIWhttp://www.karlgroves.com From: Ron Menchey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:12 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr or two. Ron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message-From: Karl Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will need to be transplanted. The second issue is the steering column must be completely screwed up, because you basically have to "hot wire" the car to drive it. For the price I paid, I'm
Re: [Chevelle-list] Manual steering brakes
I used to drag my feet to stop my 65 with manual brakes. Put power brakes w/ disks on it and enjoy the ride - you may need the extra power to save your ride. J. Brady wrote: Hi Brad, My '66 is manual steering and brakes. You just have to be aware of stopping early, and turning from a dead stop can take a little energy, but I always look at it as exercise I can use 8^] Once the car is up and rolling, the steering is cake. Regards, Jim '66 Malibu --- Brad Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to look at a '65 4-door 300 Deluxe this weekend and the seller told me it has manual steering and brakes. Those of you who've dealt with this setup, does it make a car significantly less enjoyable and more demanding to drive for any length of time? I'll probably be able to take it for a short test drive (weather permitting) but I don't know if that'll be enough time to get a really good feel for it. Thanks! Brad From: Karl Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 14:59:57 + - I'm glad to see I'm not the only one! LOL! When I met my first wife, I had a 77 Z/28, 350, 10:1, 286 cam, roller valvetrain, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Pete Jackson gear drive, Performer RPM, Performer Carb, TCI Streetfighter 350 trans, BM Holeshot convertor, 3.73 rear, MSD, all that. Man she hated that car! She *constantly* harped on me, saying the car stank and was too noisy. There wasn't a day that went by that she didn't holler at me about the car. The current wife is much more supportive so far, but I'm still a bit hesitant to see how she'll handle the time it'll take to put in to it. Anyone have any tips on how to balance not putting in too much time with also trying to avoid hearing the inevitable that thing is an eyesore, why is it just sitting there? Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com - From: Ron Menchey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:12 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr or two. Ron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$ I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message- From: Karl Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500 Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions .AOLPlainTextBody { FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff}.AOLPlainTextBody PRE { FONT-SIZE: 9pt}.AOLInlineAttachment { MARGIN: 10px}.AOLAttachmentHeader { BACKGROUND: #f9f9f9; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e9eaeb 2px solid}.AOLAttachmentHeader .Title {PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; BACKGROUND: #e9eaeb; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; FONT: bold 11px Tahoma; COLOR: #66; PADDING-TOP: 3px}.AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldLabel { PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 9px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1px; FONT: bold 11px Tahoma; COLOR: #66; PADDING-TOP: 1px}.AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldValue { FONT: 11px Tahoma; COLOR: #33} Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before Istart posting.My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle.I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro whenI was in high school.I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray.I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of myZ/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long withher.Since 1998, I've been driving more practical vehicles and my livingarrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on.The (new) wife and I bought a house a
Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
Can you say Bee-otch? -Original Message- From: Ron Menchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 5, 2006 11:52 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Truer words were never spokenYa got to respect each otherYea I was in Nam for a bit my own self..Your first sounds like mine..by the time I got back home after saying good bye to her,she and her mom had all my cards maxed out and tons of other bills...took me over 5 yrs to pay off...worst thing was my HUGE record collection,with tons of out of print now albums,was sent to me in a huge box...she melted them all into a huge ball...that was cold.. Mench - Original Message - From: Wayne Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:41 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Gosh, Are you sure Y'all first wives was not my first wife sisters ! Got married B-4 I went across the big pond 1966.( thank you Uncle sam ) Spent the next 14 years in a battle over mostly my Cars.. Only time she liked them is when I sold one or got a pay day from doing work ( i was rebuilding corvettes and doing repair/upgrade work besides my regular job) IN a last ditch effort to save our relationship.. I sold my 37 chevy Coupe,56 Chevy Nomad,56 Chevy HT and 67 Corvette. Well. 13 months later I came home to an empty home. No $$$ in the bank and 10 months of unpaid bill and maxed out credit card's plue lowest of lows, the Bitch even hall-ed off my duel Snap on roller cabinet and all my tools [EMAIL PROTECTED]( another 4 years of payment to the Snap on Man and no tools) My 2nd Love 24 years and going strong. understands nothing about cars. or Electronics ( my other hobby) but then again I understand nothing about Art. Or Sting chamber Music But we support each others interest no mater how varied they my be. She go's to like the NE Chevelle Weekend and Reads But I then go and sit through renditions of Bach, Hayden or Mortzart... Example lasts nights Rose bowl.. She has 0 interest in football but sat with me through the whole game with out one negative word .. But the other side of that coin..over the weekend a move was on TCM from the 40's. Some BW big musical dance thing... she knew all the actors the composer the set designer..I sat an enjoyed it with her. So speaking like Dr.Phill IMO you need a person who respects your interest and YOU must respect hers no mater how painful or weird you think they are... Wayne ACES 1556 TC 186 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [Chevelle-list] How do You spell school?
haha, shame on you! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:16 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] How do You spell school? Sorry, I just can't help myself. http://www.stateofgeorgia.com/education1.html
[Chevelle-list] Rivets for Grill - 66 Chevelle
It's time for me to install my new grill. The fastener kit I bought came with the original style rivets. Anyone here have any experience installing these? Is there a special tool out there I can get, or make to install these rivets? I have seen the screws on eBay that were discussed here, but would like to use original style rivets if I can. Thanks for your help. Larry Shouse
RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West
Herb the Global arms are fantastic! I wish the service was the same. Some of the fault is mine. I should have opened the packages myself, but the mechanic said he would do it, and I assumed he did. I even asked him if all was well! Dan -Original Message- From: mike f [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:37 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West This sounds, to me, like growing pains. Global West, like Baer may have too much success. A situation we all would like to be busines owners of. lol mike --- Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, I've equipped my El with all GW stuff but never had any issues with missing parts/boxes. Maybe this was one of those things that slipped through the cracks and wasn't caught until you opened your boxes. I guess the nice thing is you didn't get any resistance from them and got your parts in the end. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Mascheck Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Global West Has anyone had any problems with Global West? November I bought a complete Cat 5 system front to rear suspension for my 72 Chevelle. Over 5 grand++. They shipped the packages, and I have a mechanic I work with on my car to help install all the new stuff correctly. Well...when they shipped the boxes. I loaded it into the mechanics truck, he took it home to his shop and never opened the boxes like he said he would. All this time I thought we had everything.. We have been very busy for months. The mechanic opened the boxes Monday and noticed there were no spindles or brakes, everything else was there. I thought I was going to have a major problem talking to Global West two months later to find out what happened. I called yesterday, and they said oh yes it was all shipped! After further investigation, they found out there was a back order on the spindles and brakes, so..they sent them today! The big quiz iswhy they never said anything about the back order to me for two months. The A arms are phenomenally built. I am very happy with what I did receive! I was really surprised about no notification. I guess it was my fault for not opening the boxes. Oh Well!! Dan Mascheck Wharton, TX __ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions
You just have to start them out like I did. I picked my (now) wife up for our first date in my buddy's 1970 Z/28 with 3" Simpson belts as my daily driver was a '69 Dart. I already had the Corvette, and I bought the Chevelle within a few months of meeting her. She knew what she was getting into, and if she could survive the Beast of the Camaro, then everything else was no problem. Since then, we have driven around town (http://epage.com/brad/socalus.jpg)to Laughlin (in the summer), Sedona (http://epage.com/brad/sedonavette.jpg), Monterey, and other long hauls in both the Corvette and Chevelle. Many early trips were taken to Santa Barbara and Cambria (up hwy 1 near Hearst Castle) in the Chevelle as her Toyota was too small for me to sit in for long. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes| 275/40/17 Kumho MX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl GrovesSent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:38 AMTo: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions I'm glad to see I'm not the only one! LOL! When I met my first wife, I had a 77 Z/28, 350, 10:1, 286 cam, roller valvetrain, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Pete Jackson gear drive, Performer RPM, Performer Carb, TCI Streetfighter 350 trans, BM Holeshot convertor, 3.73 rear, MSD, all that. Man she hated that car! She *constantly* harped on me, saying the car stank and was too noisy. There wasn't a day that went by that she didn't holler at me about the car. The current wife is much more supportive so far, but I'm still a bit hesitant to see how she'll handle the time it'll take to put in to it. Anyone have any tips on how to balance not putting in too much time with also trying to avoid hearing the inevitable "that thing is an eyesore, why is it just sitting there?" Karl GrovesMaster Certified CIWhttp://www.karlgroves.com From: Ron Menchey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:12 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Phil ya sound a lot like me...first wife 4 ys and hated anything to do with cars...my new bride ...34 yrs and counting...Loves old cars..she has a 62 t-bird..semi custom and she drives it when ever the roads are ok and she tells me to keep my paws off of it,she likes it the way it it...I think I may just keep her around for another yr or two. Ron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Congratulations on the new wife. My wife isn't really into this stuff but she supports my interest let's me enjoy it. At 57 I'm sure I'm alot older than you. My first wife lasted 3 years. My new one is 27 years counting for the rest of my life!! She's a keeper if only for the $$I spend on the car and the garage!! LOL!!! She'll even go for a ride in my fast noisy Hot Rod a few times a summer if I promise ice cream. Welcome to the List may you have a joyous lifetime love affair with your car your wife!!! Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message-From: Karl Groves [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:19:38 -0500Subject: [Chevelle-list] New member, questions Hello - I've just subscribed to this list, and I want to introduce myself before I start posting. My name is Karl and I just (as in this afternoon) purchased a 71 Chevelle. I've had fast, (mostly) old cars all my life, starting with a 70 Camaro when I was in high school. I've also had a 77 Z/28 and 76 Stingray. I had a son in 98 and the (now ex) wife pressured me into getting rid of my Z/28 and get a minivan needless to say, things didn't last very long with her. Since 1998, I've been driving more "practical" vehicles and my living arrangements weren't really conducive to having an old car to work on. The (new) wife and I bought a house a few months ago and, thanks to the side money I've been earning making web sites, I've been able to afford a project car. The Chevelle I just bought was owned by the neighbor of my babysitter. The guy's had it since 2001 and "always planned on working on it" but never did. It is somewhat of a basket case. There's rust in all the stereotypical places, the interior is a mess, they tried putting on a cowl induction scoop with pop rivets, and all sorts of small issues. The two main problems are the roof is completely rusted underneath the vinyl top. The whole roof will
Re: [Chevelle-list] Rivets for Grill - 66 Chevelle
i have used these rivets use a rag and a hammer and a dolly rag over the part that is to be visible and preferably a body hammer because of the large face if you know someone with a brake lineing re riviter then it may work but short of that this is the only way i know of i did it on the car and it works out good as long as you pay attn to what you are doing
Re: [Chevelle-list] Manual steering brakes
Had 64 SS in 60's. Manual steering brakes. Put over 100,000 miles on car. (many 1/4 mile at time). Used J52 option Corvette sintered iron brake shoes (no longer available). No problem stopping on even shortest drag strip shut down areas. If use manual brakes be sure at least to use Rivited shoes not bonded. One company makes a new ceramic lining that has high stopping co-efficient. You can always change to disc later. John - Original Message - From: Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:32 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Manual steering brakes Brad, If you like the car enough to buy it, upgrading it to power steering and brakes isn't a big deal and can be as cheap or expensive as you're willing. If you do buy the car, manual steering and brakes aren't that hard to live with. Stock manual steering has a very loose ratio so turning at slow speeds isn't as bad as many people think. Manual (drum I assume) brakes can work pretty good if you take the time to make sure everything is in proper working order and the parts are dirt cheap at your local auto stores. Of course, manual brakes - regardless of how good you think they work - will never equal the stopping power of disc brakes. But again, that's an upgrade you can tackle down the road. The primary concern is whether or not the car itself is worth buying. Good luck! Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brad Olson Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:08 AM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Manual steering brakes I'm going to look at a '65 4-door 300 Deluxe this weekend and the seller told me it has manual steering and brakes. Those of you who've dealt with this setup, does it make a car significantly less enjoyable and more demanding to drive for any length of time? I'll probably be able to take it for a short test drive (weather permitting) but I don't know if that'll be enough time to get a really good feel for it. Thanks! Brad