Re: [Chevelle-list] Coupon Codes

2007-10-01 Thread Brad Waller
It depends.  Where did the codes come from?  Many times they are 
generic, but they can also often be given to specific Web sites or 
affiliates.  If the code was given to a specific affiliate, then it 
might only be valid for them and should not be shared.  You might want 
to see if any of these vendors have affiliate programs.  If so, you can 
both earn money and give them discounts when you refer them.


Karl Groves wrote:

Does anyone know if coupon codes for the parts houses (like Classic
Industries, Year One, etc.) are unique?   Every so often I get a postcard
from some of those places, and I was contemplating posting them on my
website www.8pistons.com so others could save money, too, but I don't know
if others can use them or just me (in other words, if there's one coupon
code per customer or something).


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Subject: [Chevelle-list] exhaust syystems

How well do you like the Magnaflow systems? I need to do a 2.5 on my 
67. I also like the pypes systems. I can not afford the stainless but the 403 
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Very cool!  Thanks for sharing, I sent it along to about 50 other 
motorheads.
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  Video of a cylinder firing. This is pretty neat.
   
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  Ditto the very cool.  Passed it along also.

  On 9/30/07, Dennis McGillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Very cool!  
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[Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread Daniel Solomon
Picked up my 70 Chevelle from the body shop on Thursday and took it for its 
maiden voyage this weekend. Car looks and runs great but won't stop. I have 
absolutely NO pedal. Its not spongy but way to much pedal travel. Hopefully 
someone out there can guide me to a solution. Here is what i am running...

4 Wheel Drum Brakes - All pads and hardware are brand new
4 New Brake Cylinders
New Drum Brake Master Cylinder
Used GM Power Booster
Original Proportioning Valve
All New Lines
Silicone Brake Fluid

I adjusted all of the brakes but it did not help. Bled them again but did not 
find any air in the lines. Wondering if I should ditch the booster and put the 
master cylinder back on the firewall as it was before. It is the only thing 
that I changed in the setup.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Now that I have it done I want to drive!

Thanks, Dan

Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keep bleeding, bleeding, bleding then bleed some more until you have 
more pedal. That has been my experience at least.


Daniel Solomon wrote:
Picked up my 70 Chevelle from the body shop on Thursday and took it 
for its maiden voyage this weekend. Car looks and runs great but won't 
stop. I have absolutely NO pedal. Its not spongy but way to much pedal 
travel. Hopefully someone out there can guide me to a solution. Here 
is what i am running...


4 Wheel Drum Brakes - All pads and hardware are brand new
4 New Brake Cylinders
New Drum Brake Master Cylinder
Used GM Power Booster
Original Proportioning Valve
All New Lines
Silicone Brake Fluid

I adjusted all of the brakes but it did not help. Bled them again but 
did not find any air in the lines. Wondering if I should ditch the 
booster and put the master cylinder back on the firewall as it was 
before. It is the only thing that I changed in the setup.


Any help would be greatly appreciated. Now that I have it done I want 
to drive!
 
Thanks, Dan


Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread Brad Waller
My first thought was that the Master Cylinder was bad.  Even though it is
new, it could be.  Or maybe you need to adjust the plunger/pedal?  It has
been way too long for me, but I had the opposite problem of the brakes
applying themselves after a while until the wheels locked.  That was from
the adjustement bein off the other direction.  Too tight and the brakes are
always on!  Maybe too loose and you get lots of travel and no pressure.
 
Is the master the right one for the other parts? You say you might put the
booster back on the firewall, so does this mean the master is a non-power
master?  I'm not sure what would happen if you had a power master with no
booster, but I think it would be a problem to add a booster to a manual
master cylinder.  If things are mismatched here, maybe that is why you get
no power from your braking?

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1
'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX


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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:52 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


Picked up my 70 Chevelle from the body shop on Thursday and took it for its
maiden voyage this weekend. Car looks and runs great but won't stop. I have
absolutely NO pedal. Its not spongy but way to much pedal travel. Hopefully
someone out there can guide me to a solution. Here is what i am running...

4 Wheel Drum Brakes - All pads and hardware are brand new
4 New Brake Cylinders
New Drum Brake Master Cylinder
Used GM Power Booster
Original Proportioning Valve
All New Lines
Silicone Brake Fluid

I adjusted all of the brakes but it did not help. Bled them again but did
not find any air in the lines. Wondering if I should ditch the booster and
put the master cylinder back on the firewall as it was before. It is the
only thing that I changed in the setup.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Now that I have it done I want to
drive!
 
Thanks, Dan



Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread DK239
Did you use the correct rod from the pedal to the  m/c?



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Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread Randy S Johnson
This may sound really dumb, but this happened to me this year.  I went 
from a manual 4 drum system to a power disk braking system.  I got 
everything all hooked up, but I wasn't impressed with the stopping power. 
I started to hear a leak from my booster after a few months, so I ordered 
a new one.  Well I removed the master cylinder and realized my friend who 
hooked up the booster and master didn't put in the connecting rod between 
then.  So I had a huge air leak through that area and I had no physical 
connection between the booster and the master.  I doubt anyone else in the 
world could be that dumb, but I like to share my dumb stories.  PS~I drove 
my car like that for 5 months before I fixed the problem.  Now the car 
actually stops.  Good luck.  I'd guess it is a bleeding issue.  I also had 
a problem while bleeding that one fitting wasn't real tight on the rear T 
and it kept letting air slowing back into the system while bleeding.





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Keep bleeding, bleeding, bleding then bleed some more until you have more 
pedal. That has been my experience at least.

Daniel Solomon wrote: 
Picked up my 70 Chevelle from the body shop on Thursday and took it for 
its maiden voyage this weekend. Car looks and runs great but won't stop. I 
have absolutely NO pedal. Its not spongy but way to much pedal travel. 
Hopefully someone out there can guide me to a solution. Here is what i am 
running...

4 Wheel Drum Brakes - All pads and hardware are brand new
4 New Brake Cylinders
New Drum Brake Master Cylinder
Used GM Power Booster
Original Proportioning Valve
All New Lines
Silicone Brake Fluid

I adjusted all of the brakes but it did not help. Bled them again but did 
not find any air in the lines. Wondering if I should ditch the booster and 
put the master cylinder back on the firewall as it was before. It is the 
only thing that I changed in the setup.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Now that I have it done I want to 
drive!
 
Thanks, Dan


Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread Daniel Solomon
I didn't realize that there was a different master cylinder for power brakes. I 
bought the one I have on the car before I thought about adding the power assist.
Sounds like its worth a try. Think I have a original 70 master cylinder in the 
shed. Maybe I will try my hand at a rebuild.

Thanks, Dan
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brad Wallermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


  My first thought was that the Master Cylinder was bad.  Even though it is 
new, it could be.  Or maybe you need to adjust the plunger/pedal?  It has been 
way too long for me, but I had the opposite problem of the brakes applying 
themselves after a while until the wheels locked.  That was from the 
adjustement bein off the other direction.  Too tight and the brakes are always 
on!  Maybe too loose and you get lots of travel and no pressure.

  Is the master the right one for the other parts? You say you might put the 
booster back on the firewall, so does this mean the master is a non-power 
master?  I'm not sure what would happen if you had a power master with no 
booster, but I think it would be a problem to add a booster to a manual master 
cylinder.  If things are mismatched here, maybe that is why you get no power 
from your braking?
  Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

  '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1
  '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel 
Solomon
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:52 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


Picked up my 70 Chevelle from the body shop on Thursday and took it for its 
maiden voyage this weekend. Car looks and runs great but won't stop. I have 
absolutely NO pedal. Its not spongy but way to much pedal travel. Hopefully 
someone out there can guide me to a solution. Here is what i am running...

4 Wheel Drum Brakes - All pads and hardware are brand new
4 New Brake Cylinders
New Drum Brake Master Cylinder
Used GM Power Booster
Original Proportioning Valve
All New Lines
Silicone Brake Fluid

I adjusted all of the brakes but it did not help. Bled them again but did 
not find any air in the lines. Wondering if I should ditch the booster and put 
the master cylinder back on the firewall as it was before. It is the only thing 
that I changed in the setup.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Now that I have it done I want to 
drive!

Thanks, Dan

Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread Daniel Solomon
I will check for the rod when I pull it off. I could be that dumb. It depends 
on how many cold ones I had before I put it together.

Thanks, Dan
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  From: Randy S Johnsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing Listmailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking



  This may sound really dumb, but this happened to me this year.  I went from a 
manual 4 drum system to a power disk braking system.  I got everything all 
hooked up, but I wasn't impressed with the stopping power.  I started to hear a 
leak from my booster after a few months, so I ordered a new one.  Well I 
removed the master cylinder and realized my friend who hooked up the booster 
and master didn't put in the connecting rod between then.  So I had a huge air 
leak through that area and I had no physical connection between the booster and 
the master.  I doubt anyone else in the world could be that dumb, but I like to 
share my dumb stories.  PS~I drove my car like that for 5 months before I fixed 
the problem.  Now the car actually stops.  Good luck.  I'd guess it is a 
bleeding issue.  I also had a problem while bleeding that one fitting wasn't 
real tight on the rear T and it kept letting air slowing back into the system 
while bleeding. 




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  Keep bleeding, bleeding, bleding then bleed some more until you have more 
pedal. That has been my experience at least.

  Daniel Solomon wrote: 
  Picked up my 70 Chevelle from the body shop on Thursday and took it for its 
maiden voyage this weekend. Car looks and runs great but won't stop. I have 
absolutely NO pedal. Its not spongy but way to much pedal travel. Hopefully 
someone out there can guide me to a solution. Here is what i am running...

  4 Wheel Drum Brakes - All pads and hardware are brand new
  4 New Brake Cylinders
  New Drum Brake Master Cylinder
  Used GM Power Booster
  Original Proportioning Valve
  All New Lines
  Silicone Brake Fluid

  I adjusted all of the brakes but it did not help. Bled them again but did not 
find any air in the lines. Wondering if I should ditch the booster and put the 
master cylinder back on the firewall as it was before. It is the only thing 
that I changed in the setup.

  Any help would be greatly appreciated. Now that I have it done I want to 
drive! 

  Thanks, Dan 



Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread Daniel Solomon
What is the difference? I used the one that was with the car.

Thanks, Dan
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  Did you use the correct rod from the pedal to the m/c?





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Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread Daniel Solomon
I don't see a listing for a power drum master cylinder. Could you get power 
with drums in 1970? Would I be better off with the power disc brake M/C?

Dan
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brad Wallermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


  My first thought was that the Master Cylinder was bad.  Even though it is 
new, it could be.  Or maybe you need to adjust the plunger/pedal?  It has been 
way too long for me, but I had the opposite problem of the brakes applying 
themselves after a while until the wheels locked.  That was from the 
adjustement bein off the other direction.  Too tight and the brakes are always 
on!  Maybe too loose and you get lots of travel and no pressure.

  Is the master the right one for the other parts? You say you might put the 
booster back on the firewall, so does this mean the master is a non-power 
master?  I'm not sure what would happen if you had a power master with no 
booster, but I think it would be a problem to add a booster to a manual master 
cylinder.  If things are mismatched here, maybe that is why you get no power 
from your braking?
  Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

  '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1
  '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel 
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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:52 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


Picked up my 70 Chevelle from the body shop on Thursday and took it for its 
maiden voyage this weekend. Car looks and runs great but won't stop. I have 
absolutely NO pedal. Its not spongy but way to much pedal travel. Hopefully 
someone out there can guide me to a solution. Here is what i am running...

4 Wheel Drum Brakes - All pads and hardware are brand new
4 New Brake Cylinders
New Drum Brake Master Cylinder
Used GM Power Booster
Original Proportioning Valve
All New Lines
Silicone Brake Fluid

I adjusted all of the brakes but it did not help. Bled them again but did 
not find any air in the lines. Wondering if I should ditch the booster and put 
the master cylinder back on the firewall as it was before. It is the only thing 
that I changed in the setup.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Now that I have it done I want to 
drive!

Thanks, Dan

[Chevelle-list] magnaflow or pypes exhaust

2007-10-01 Thread mike f
How well do you like the Magnaflow systems? I need to do a 2.5 on my 67. I 
also like the pypes systems. I can not afford the stainless but the 403 system 
are about $500-650.  
 
What about noise levels? Does one make more noise than the other? 
 
Whatever I get my plan would be more happy with the x-pipe or small crossover 
pipe, I think.
 
Any thoughts are appreciated. 
 
thanks
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Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread Mike Holleman
A couple of questions. There are two types of masters. One for the long push 
rod and one for the short. If your booster has the short rod and your M/C is a 
long style you are not stroking the M/C. Also, did you bench bleed the M/C? 
This is necessary to get good pedal. One more, there should be two different 
mounting locations(holes) in the brake pedal arm for the clevis to attach to. 
The upper is for manual brakes and the lower for power.
Mike  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Solomon 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


  I didn't realize that there was a different master cylinder for power brakes. 
I bought the one I have on the car before I thought about adding the power 
assist.
  Sounds like its worth a try. Think I have a original 70 master cylinder in 
the shed. Maybe I will try my hand at a rebuild.

  Thanks, Dan
- Original Message - 
From: Brad Waller 
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


My first thought was that the Master Cylinder was bad.  Even though it is 
new, it could be.  Or maybe you need to adjust the plunger/pedal?  It has been 
way too long for me, but I had the opposite problem of the brakes applying 
themselves after a while until the wheels locked.  That was from the 
adjustement bein off the other direction.  Too tight and the brakes are always 
on!  Maybe too loose and you get lots of travel and no pressure.

Is the master the right one for the other parts? You say you might put the 
booster back on the firewall, so does this mean the master is a non-power 
master?  I'm not sure what would happen if you had a power master with no 
booster, but I think it would be a problem to add a booster to a manual master 
cylinder.  If things are mismatched here, maybe that is why you get no power 
from your braking?
Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1
'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX



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  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:52 AM
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


  Picked up my 70 Chevelle from the body shop on Thursday and took it for 
its maiden voyage this weekend. Car looks and runs great but won't stop. I have 
absolutely NO pedal. Its not spongy but way to much pedal travel. Hopefully 
someone out there can guide me to a solution. Here is what i am running...

  4 Wheel Drum Brakes - All pads and hardware are brand new
  4 New Brake Cylinders
  New Drum Brake Master Cylinder
  Used GM Power Booster
  Original Proportioning Valve
  All New Lines
  Silicone Brake Fluid

  I adjusted all of the brakes but it did not help. Bled them again but did 
not find any air in the lines. Wondering if I should ditch the booster and put 
the master cylinder back on the firewall as it was before. It is the only thing 
that I changed in the setup.

  Any help would be greatly appreciated. Now that I have it done I want to 
drive!

  Thanks, Dan


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Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread chevelle292wagon dejazzd.com
From: Daniel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Monday, October 1, 2007 11:55 amSubject: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor BrakingTo: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Picked up my 70Chevelle from the body shop on  Thursday and took it for its maiden voyage this weekend. Car looks and runs  great but won't stop. I have absolutely NO pedal. Its not spongy but way to much  pedal travel.I was not aware of different length pushrods, that sounds like something to check.The little links between wheel cylinder and shoe is in place on all brake shoes?Maybe recheck the adjustment on the brake shoes?Four shoes with too much clearance will eat up your pedal travel in a hurry.Been there, done that!Pete



Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread Rick Schaefer
  Did you bleed the master cylinder when it was mounted?If so, you may
still have air trapped at the high end.In my limited experience I've had
better luck bench bleeding the master cylinder on the bench before
installation.   A bench bleeding kit is only a few bucks.

On 10/1/07, chevelle292wagon dejazzd.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 From: Daniel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Monday, October 1, 2007 11:55 am
 Subject: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking
 To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net


 Picked up my 70 Chevelle from the body shop on
  Thursday and took it for its maiden voyage this weekend. Car looks and
 runs
  great but won't stop. I have absolutely NO pedal. Its not spongy but way
 to much
  pedal travel.

 I was not aware of different length pushrods, that sounds like something
 to check.
 The little links between wheel cylinder and shoe is in place on all brake
 shoes?

 Maybe recheck the adjustment on the brake shoes?
 Four shoes with too much clearance will eat up your pedal travel in a
 hurry.
 Been there, done that!

 Pete







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[Chevelle-list] Banjo Fitting

2007-10-01 Thread Rick Schaefer
 I need a banjo fitting for the electric fuel pump on my el
camino.   And can't find one that has a 3/8 barbed output.   The pump has a
12 mm output.This is similar to what I need but it is for brakes :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harley-Chrome-12MM-90-Degree-Male-Banjo-Brake-Fitting_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35569QQihZ020QQitemZ300155303285QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

I could use a straight output but with limited space the elbow is better.
Now I am using the 5/16 barbed fitting that came with the pump but would
like to upgrade to 3/8 hose.Can anyone point me in the right direction?

-- 
Rick Schaefer
72 TPI El Camino


Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread Daniel Solomon
Mike,

How will I know if the rod and the M/C match?
I think I will try bench bleeding the M/C tonight. The entire system was 
installed dry so it sounds like this has to be done no matter what.

Thanks, Dan
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hollemanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing Listmailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


  A couple of questions. There are two types of masters. One for the long push 
rod and one for the short. If your booster has the short rod and your M/C is a 
long style you are not stroking the M/C. Also, did you bench bleed the M/C? 
This is necessary to get good pedal. One more, there should be two different 
mounting locations(holes) in the brake pedal arm for the clevis to attach to. 
The upper is for manual brakes and the lower for power.
  Mike  
- Original Message - 
From: Daniel Solomonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: The Chevelle Mailing Listmailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


I didn't realize that there was a different master cylinder for power 
brakes. I bought the one I have on the car before I thought about adding the 
power assist.
Sounds like its worth a try. Think I have a original 70 master cylinder in 
the shed. Maybe I will try my hand at a rebuild.

Thanks, Dan
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brad Wallermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


  My first thought was that the Master Cylinder was bad.  Even though it is 
new, it could be.  Or maybe you need to adjust the plunger/pedal?  It has been 
way too long for me, but I had the opposite problem of the brakes applying 
themselves after a while until the wheels locked.  That was from the 
adjustement bein off the other direction.  Too tight and the brakes are always 
on!  Maybe too loose and you get lots of travel and no pressure.

  Is the master the right one for the other parts? You say you might put 
the booster back on the firewall, so does this mean the master is a non-power 
master?  I'm not sure what would happen if you had a power master with no 
booster, but I think it would be a problem to add a booster to a manual master 
cylinder.  If things are mismatched here, maybe that is why you get no power 
from your braking?
  Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

  '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1
  '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel 
Solomon
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:52 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


Picked up my 70 Chevelle from the body shop on Thursday and took it for 
its maiden voyage this weekend. Car looks and runs great but won't stop. I have 
absolutely NO pedal. Its not spongy but way to much pedal travel. Hopefully 
someone out there can guide me to a solution. Here is what i am running...

4 Wheel Drum Brakes - All pads and hardware are brand new
4 New Brake Cylinders
New Drum Brake Master Cylinder
Used GM Power Booster
Original Proportioning Valve
All New Lines
Silicone Brake Fluid

I adjusted all of the brakes but it did not help. Bled them again but 
did not find any air in the lines. Wondering if I should ditch the booster and 
put the master cylinder back on the firewall as it was before. It is the only 
thing that I changed in the setup.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Now that I have it done I want 
to drive!

Thanks, Dan





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[Chevelle-list] '67 El Camino

2007-10-01 Thread Brad Olson
A number of years ago I posted about a '67 inside a decaying barn
I passed every day on my way to work here in southern Wisconsin.
All I could see was the grille and recently even that was getting
hard to see...until today.

There's now a worn black '67 El Camino sitting out at the end
of the driveway.  I didn't see any signs on it so I have no
idea why it was moved, although these days the barn is starting
to look very unsound.  If I find out it's for sale I'll post
the particulars but it looks like it'd be a major project.

Brad



Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread John Biddle
Daniel, the push rod length and often the depth of the pushrod hold in master 
cylinder is different between power and non-power.  I found this out the hard 
way.  In fact the pushrod depth is often different with new master cylinders 
anyway.  Check pushrod in back of master cylinder and it probably is not moving 
far enough.  Hope this helps.  Been there done that and after much worry and 
work found right pushrod.
  - Original Message - 
  From: chevelle292wagon dejazzd.com 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


  From: Daniel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, October 1, 2007 11:55 am
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net

   

  Picked up my 70 Chevelle from the body shop on 
   Thursday and took it for its maiden voyage this weekend. Car looks and runs 
   great but won't stop. I have absolutely NO pedal. Its not spongy but way to 
much 
   pedal travel.
   
  I was not aware of different length pushrods, that sounds like something to 
check.
  The little links between wheel cylinder and shoe is in place on all brake 
shoes?

  Maybe recheck the adjustment on the brake shoes?
  Four shoes with too much clearance will eat up your pedal travel in a hurry.
  Been there, done that!
   
  Pete




Re: [Chevelle-list] '67 El Camino

2007-10-01 Thread Jason Fiegel

Where in southern Wisconsin, I am in Elkhorn myself.
Jason F
69 chevelle

- Original Message - 
From: Brad Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:21 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] '67 El Camino



A number of years ago I posted about a '67 inside a decaying barn
I passed every day on my way to work here in southern Wisconsin.
All I could see was the grille and recently even that was getting
hard to see...until today.

There's now a worn black '67 El Camino sitting out at the end
of the driveway.  I didn't see any signs on it so I have no
idea why it was moved, although these days the barn is starting
to look very unsound.  If I find out it's for sale I'll post
the particulars but it looks like it'd be a major project.

Brad







Re: [Chevelle-list] '67 El Camino

2007-10-01 Thread Brad Olson
-- Original message --
From: Jason Fiegel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Where in southern Wisconsin, I am in Elkhorn myself.

Out in the country southwest of Stoughton, which is itself
roughly halfway between Madison and Janesville.  I won't
be going home that way tonight because I have some errands
to run in town, but I'll watch for it tomorrow.

Years ago I sent a letter about it to the address there
but never heard anything back.  I'm wondering if somebody
knocked on the door and asked about it.  I always hoped
that it'd be a 2-door with a 283 and 3 on the tree...

Brad



Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread Mike Holleman
Dan, The rods are approx. 1 different in length. If you have a short rod, less 
than an inch in length your hole depth in the M/C should be the same. The only 
problem comes if your M/C has the deep hole, more than an inch and the booster 
the short. Always bench bleed the M/C. You need to be sure you fully stroke the 
M/C until you get no more air. The M/C when mounted does not get fully stroked 
and herein lies the problem trying to bleed it mounted. Get the little kit at 
Auto Zone for M/C bleeding. Has threaded nipples and clear tubes. That way you 
can see the air is gone.
Mike
  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Solomon 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 3:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


  Mike,

  How will I know if the rod and the M/C match?
  I think I will try bench bleeding the M/C tonight. The entire system was 
installed dry so it sounds like this has to be done no matter what.

  Thanks, Dan
- Original Message - 
From: Mike Holleman 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


A couple of questions. There are two types of masters. One for the long 
push rod and one for the short. If your booster has the short rod and your M/C 
is a long style you are not stroking the M/C. Also, did you bench bleed the 
M/C? This is necessary to get good pedal. One more, there should be two 
different mounting locations(holes) in the brake pedal arm for the clevis to 
attach to. The upper is for manual brakes and the lower for power.
Mike  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Solomon 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


  I didn't realize that there was a different master cylinder for power 
brakes. I bought the one I have on the car before I thought about adding the 
power assist.
  Sounds like its worth a try. Think I have a original 70 master cylinder 
in the shed. Maybe I will try my hand at a rebuild.

  Thanks, Dan
- Original Message - 
From: Brad Waller 
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


My first thought was that the Master Cylinder was bad.  Even though it 
is new, it could be.  Or maybe you need to adjust the plunger/pedal?  It has 
been way too long for me, but I had the opposite problem of the brakes applying 
themselves after a while until the wheels locked.  That was from the 
adjustement bein off the other direction.  Too tight and the brakes are always 
on!  Maybe too loose and you get lots of travel and no pressure.

Is the master the right one for the other parts? You say you might put 
the booster back on the firewall, so does this mean the master is a non-power 
master?  I'm not sure what would happen if you had a power master with no 
booster, but I think it would be a problem to add a booster to a manual master 
cylinder.  If things are mismatched here, maybe that is why you get no power 
from your braking?
Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1
'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX



--
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel 
Solomon
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:52 AM
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


  Picked up my 70 Chevelle from the body shop on Thursday and took it 
for its maiden voyage this weekend. Car looks and runs great but won't stop. I 
have absolutely NO pedal. Its not spongy but way to much pedal travel. 
Hopefully someone out there can guide me to a solution. Here is what i am 
running...

  4 Wheel Drum Brakes - All pads and hardware are brand new
  4 New Brake Cylinders
  New Drum Brake Master Cylinder
  Used GM Power Booster
  Original Proportioning Valve
  All New Lines
  Silicone Brake Fluid

  I adjusted all of the brakes but it did not help. Bled them again but 
did not find any air in the lines. Wondering if I should ditch the booster and 
put the master cylinder back on the firewall as it was before. It is the only 
thing that I changed in the setup.

  Any help would be greatly appreciated. Now that I have it done I want 
to drive!

  Thanks, Dan


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Re: [Chevelle-list] Banjo Fitting

2007-10-01 Thread tech
I know Aeroquip makes straight banjo to hose adapters, here's one from Summit:
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=banjoN=700+4294924496+4294839052+115+300072autoview=skuNtk=KeywordSearch;

I have a few more sources to check. Is the thread coarse or fine, M12 x 
1.75 or M12 x 1.25?  I'll let you know if I find one but it would be from a 
hydraulic supplier...  FYI: A fitting designed for brakes will be able to 
withstand high pressures (2000 PSI) a fuel fitting will be light weight due to 
less pressure (15 PSI). You can substitute a hydraulic fitting and open up the 
internal passage to allow more flow.


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 Rick Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

=
 I need a banjo fitting for the electric fuel pump on my el
camino.   And can't find one that has a 3/8 barbed output.   The pump has a
12 mm output.This is similar to what I need but it is for brakes :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harley-Chrome-12MM-90-Degree-Male-Banjo-Brake-Fitting_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35569QQihZ020QQitemZ300155303285QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

I could use a straight output but with limited space the elbow is better.
Now I am using the 5/16 barbed fitting that came with the pump but would
like to upgrade to 3/8 hose.Can anyone point me in the right direction?

-- 
Rick Schaefer
72 TPI El Camino



[Chevelle-list] OT: Microsoft Publisher 2007

2007-10-01 Thread Michael Pell

I know this is way off topic, but

I have a need to confirm that MS Publisher 2007 will or will not 
properly convert to .html.  
Would anyone have MS Publisher 2007 that would allow me to send them a 
.pub file to convert, then send it back to me as .html in a .zip file?
If it works out, I'll just buy Publisher, but don't want to spend the 
money only to find it doesn't convert any better than the 2003 version 
that I already have.

And the 2007 trial version doesn't let me publish as .html.

Please email me privately:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
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Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

2007-10-01 Thread dansolomon
Mike,

Pulled it all apart tonight and I suspect the booster and the master cylinder 
were not a match. I have a deep hole M/C which according to Master Power is for 
manual applications. The rod is sticking out the same amount from the booster 
but the actuation rod will not come out of the booster. Possibly pushed too 
far? I am going to put the original shaft in, drop the booster and see what 
happens. Will let you know how it turns out.
Thanks for the help.

Thanks,
Dan Solomon
  

-Original Message-
From: Mike Holleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:55:05 
To:The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking


Dan, The rods are approx. 1 different in length. If you have a short rod, less 
than an inch in length your hole depth in the M/C should be the same. The only 
problem comes if your M/C has the deep hole, more than an inch and the booster 
the short. Always bench bleed the M/C. You need to be sure you fully stroke the 
M/C until you get no more air. The M/C when mounted does not get fully stroked 
and herein lies the problem trying to bleed it mounted. Get the little kit at 
Auto Zone for M/C bleeding. Has threaded nipples and clear tubes. That way you 
can see the air is gone. 
Mike 
- Original Message - 
From: Daniel 
  Solomon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: The Chevelle Mailing List mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net  
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 3:14 PM 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking 

 
 
Mike, 
  
How will I know if the rod and the M/C match? 
I think I will try bench bleeding the M/C tonight. The entire system was 
installed dry so it sounds like this has to be done no matter what. 
  
Thanks, Dan 
- Original Message - 
From: Mike 
Holleman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: The Chevelle Mailing List mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net  
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:52 AM 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking 

 
A couple of questions. There are two types of masters. One for the long push 
rod and one for the short. If your booster has the short rod and your M/C is a 
long style you are not stroking the M/C. Also, did you bench bleed the M/C? 
This is necessary to get good pedal. One more, there should be two different 
mounting locations(holes) in the brake pedal arm for the clevis to attach to. 
The upper is for manual brakes and the lower for power. 
Mike   
- Original Message - 
From: Daniel 
  Solomon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: The Chevelle Mailing List mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net  
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking 

 
 
I didn't realize that there was a different master cylinder for power brakes. I 
bought the one I have on the car before I thought about adding the power 
assist. 
Sounds like its worth a try. Think I have a original 70 master cylinder in the 
shed. Maybe I will try my hand at a rebuild. 
  
Thanks, Dan 
- Original Message - 
From: Brad Waller mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing 
List' mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net  
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:15 AM 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking 

 
My first thought was that the Master Cylinder was bad.  Even though it is new, 
it could be.  Or maybe you need to adjust the plunger/pedal?  It has been way 
too long for me, but I had the opposite problem of the brakes applying 
themselves after a while until the wheels locked.  That was from the 
adjustement bein off the other direction.  Too tight and the brakes are always 
on!  Maybe too loose and you get lots of travel and no pressure. 
  
Is the master the right one for the other parts? You say you might put the 
booster back on the firewall, so does this mean the master is a non-power 
master?  I'm not sure what would happen if you had a power master with no 
booster, but I think it would be a problem to add a booster to a manual master 
cylinder.  If things are mismatched here, maybe that is why you get no power 
from your braking? 
 
Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1
'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX
 
 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Solomon
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:52 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] No Pedal - Poor Braking

 
 
 
 
Picked up my 70 Chevelle from the body shop on Thursday and took it for its 
maiden voyage this weekend. Car looks and runs great but won't stop. I have 
absolutely NO pedal. Its not spongy but way to much pedal travel. Hopefully 
someone out there can guide me to a solution. Here is what i am running...

4 Wheel Drum Brakes - All pads and hardware are brand new
4 New Brake Cylinders
New Drum Brake Master Cylinder
Used GM Power Booster
Original Proportioning Valve

Re: [Chevelle-list] Repairing a power seat

2007-10-01 Thread richard sierra


Good evening - I need a little guidance - My '70 SS has been in the shop for 
the past few days for some work and it was discovered that the driver's power 
seat died - (My front buckets were being taken out to be redone) - I realize 
that this is a some what rare option but I need some guidance on where to 
either send it for refurbrishing or who might have the necessary parts needed 
i.e. motor, etc - Your help is appreciated - Thanks - Rich
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