Re: [Chevelle-list] Lee Hester Spammer

[Roarke Ponce]

The junk mail keeps getting through because the email is coming to you from the 
Chevelle list, so the only way to block it would be to block 
"chevelle-l...@chevelle.net" email address.  At this point its up the 
administrator of the list to block/remove him.  

You might be able to create a Rule with your email software that looks at all 
email coming in and if the message contains "Lee Hester" it will just auto 
delete.  Depends on what options your email program gives you.

Maybe the list admin might do something if we all start threatening to drop off 
the list if he/she doesn't do something.

Roarke
'72 Malibu - Hoping to start work this winter



-Original Message-
From: Bob n Cheri 
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: 10/23/10 12:31
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Lee Hester Spammer


Is there is  some way to get rid of this Lee Hester joker?
I have added him to my junk mail, sent his address to MSN and reported as spam.
 
To no avail this F**k keeps getting through to my in box.
 
Easy enough to delete but a pain in the a$$.
 
Bob Belz
 
Chevelle Content: Put the Chevelle away for the year, sad day.

Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question

[Roarke Ponce]

Well, actually the work of the compressor pumping the air heats it up and the 
air actually comes out of the compressor with more moisture content.  That is 
why at our body shop we have to have a huge 3 stage oil and water filter on the 
air lines before they go in the booth and oil/water traps on the lines into the 
air tools.

The comment about Nitrogen being a inert gas is correct, it does not breakdown 
the rubber compounds in the tire.  However it is more expensive (due to the 
cost of the machine), and of course you have normal air on the outside of the 
tire, so lowering the oxidation on the inside of the tire is only half the 
battle really.  The tire store I deal with has a nitrogen system but they told 
me privately its just a upsale device really.

On that Mercedes, I bet the sensors were probably calibrated for Nitrogen.

Roarke
'72 Malibu (in pieces at the moment)



Tom Tomlinson wrote: If you want dry air in the tires, then why not dry out the 
air (by cooling for instance) before filling the tires. It's probably pretty 
dry coming out of a compressor anyway. I also can't see the advantage of 
putting an inert gas in the tires. You still have air on the outside of the 
tires.   
  
Seems like a waste of money.   
  
Tom Tomlinson   
'71 Malibu   
  
tinindia...@aol.com wrote:   
  Another question about  nitrogen. Shell claims their gas  keeps  your engine  
cleaner. Having worked in a chemical plant and refinery's and knowing that 
nitrogen is an inert gas and doesn't burn, how then can it  keep engines 
cleaner.  Nitrogen is used to purge other gases in welding and vessels.  Just 
wondering , can anyone answer my thoughts.  Wish I was still working and could 
ask the engineers. 
  
Thanks Darrell   
  
  
In a message dated 11/8/2009 12:06:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
wolbe...@sbcglobal.net writes: 

Nitrogen filling stations cost upwards of $5000.  The folks who 
buy them need a return on investment, so they tout the benefits of 
nitrogen so they can sell it to you.  To my knowledge, there is no 
research that shows any thing that makes it worth the money that 
the consumer spends.  It's a profit center (once the machine is 
paid off) for the business that buys the equipment, nothing more. 
Racing teams use nitrogen to fill the tires so that they can have 
a consistent rise in temperature and pressure because of the lack 
of moisture in the tire.  Street tires don't need it. 
BillL 

 
*From:* chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [ 
mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] *On Behalf Of 
*richard sierra 
*Sent:* Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:25 PM 
*To:* The Chevelle Mailing List 
*Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question 


 I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the 
following new package called "Nitro Fill'. The claim is that 
nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that 
nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't 
deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with 
temperature changes. 
 I'd be interested to hear what the "group" thinks about this. Thanks 
 Rich - 70 SS Coupe 


 
Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. 
Try it now. 


 


  

Re: [Chevelle-list] Off Topic: Theft Prevention

[ROARKE PONCE]

In many places in the US it is still considered safe to leave alot out in the 
open.  In my community, I part just at the edge of the street and my back yard 
is fenced with just a 3 foot fence.

 

I think its a fairly false sense of security though.  We have had 4 murders in 
the last month and car break-ins are getting so bad the cops do not even come 
out for them anymore. "What a wonderful world..."

 

Roarke
 


From: johann.grob...@absamail.co.za
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:56:48 +0200
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Off Topic: Theft Prevention




In South Africa it is unheard of to have an open stand.  The perimiter is 
fenced off with a second gate to the parking area and like I, have two 
Rotweillers that look after you.  The days of open stands are long gone!  If 
you don't have immobilisers fitted, no insurance!

- Original Message - 
From: Bob n Cheri 
To: chevelle-list 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 7:32 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Off Topic: Theft Prevention



Well our nice little town had 4 late model (3 Doges and 1 Chevy) trucks stolen 
in the middle of the night Tuesday.
All gone without a trace, 3 of 4 within a block of each other, the other a 
couple miles away.
 
I suspect they went south of the border as this was happening a few years ago.
Unfortunately I lost a nice 1975 F100 4x4 back then, my father bought it brand 
new, we drove it off the showroom floor, it meant a lot to me.
 
I don't fear for my collector cars as they are under lock and key but I do have 
a 2005 F250 that sits out, no more garage space.
I would like to do some things to keep it from getting stolen too.
 
Ideas about kill switches, fuel shutoffs, physical restraint are welcome.
 
If you don’t want to share your secrets with everyone please email me off list.
 
I need some do it yourself, make em look elsewhere for an easier target type 
stuff.
Man I HATE thieves!
 
Thanks,
Bob Belz
  

Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash

[ROARKE PONCE]

Sorry then guys...I will shut up now...



From: tinindia...@aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:28:29 -0400
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash








Amen Henry!!!

Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash

[ROARKE PONCE]

You know I take great pride in the fact that at 25 years old I was a ASE Master 
Tech in repair/refinish/estimating.  I also have a industry certification by 
I-CAR of Platinum Individual.  I am certified for a variety of Hybrid models as 
well. What those things mean is that I spend hours and hours each year 
attending classes, seminars and other industry gatherings to make sure I have a 
noggin full of knowledge.  

That allows me to look a a car and estimate what it will take to fix it, 
blueprint the repair process from start to finish, stand my ground about 
correct and complete repairs...I can repair dents, replace any panel on a car, 
replace urethane set glass, sand mud, spray primer, color and clear coats.  
Shall I go on?  I guess this was a really long winded way of saying I have done 
research, I am in the thick of collision repair every day.

Totals are up for reasons you apparently do not comprehend.  The cost of 
airbags, the recession, availability of good serviceable LKQ parts, the high 
cost of new OE parts (that is a whole 'nuther debate on its own)...all have a 
bearing on if a car is totaled.  If a car is in demand for LKQ parts, then many 
insurance companies will total that type of car sooner then others just because 
salvage values are high on that model.

I think we can look at that video in this light: If a old car had to die, what 
better way then in a way that a person does not die with it?  It was a grand 
example of how far vehicle technology has come since the 50s and I for one am 
happy for that advancement.   Are cars now perfect?  No.  But the cars are 
safer now and that is all we can ask for is it not?

Roarke


Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:59:32 -0700
From: h20farm...@yahoo.com
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash

You Do The Research.. How Many Are Thrown From Vehicles Today VS. Yesteryear!! 
The Doors Today Are Glued On The Latches Give Way See How Many At Totally Trown 
Fron The Car Today Vs In The Early Years.. I KNOW What I Am Talking About I 
Have Worked On Cars For 50 Years.. But Bottom Line Is The Video In Question And 
The 59 Was Not Bolted Together To Give Everybody The Idea That They Are Better, 
Just Another Cash For Clunkers Video. Trade Off The Old Buy The New..

Kevin...
Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many LOL

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Tom Rightler  wrote:


From: Tom Rightler 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 4:23 PM



You're an idiot, sorry, but that's just the truth.  Old cars, old engineering.  
They aren't deisgned to be energy absorbing..new cars are. Early Iron...best 
route..hardly.  How many people were killed in wrecks back then compared to 
nowdo some research before you go shooting off what you OPINION is vs. what 
the TRUTH is.
 
 
 
 
 
- Original Message - 

From: Kevin Brown 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash






Well It Is Clear To Me That Your Blind And I Am Sorry For That You Never 
Watched The Video Correctly Then The Dudes Head In The 2009 Hit The Steering 
Wheel To Life Threathing Blows. How Can You Possible Say That The 2009 Is Made 
Better?? Look At The Junkyards They Are Full Of Them Ya Tap The Dam Things The 
Front End FALLS off. Plastic Junk.. They Haven't Made A Decent Car Since The 
Early 80"s I Own A 2007 Malibu It Is Junk Compared To My 70 SS... Yep Hands 
Down The Early Iron Is The Best Route. I Think I Have More Metal In My Engine 
Alone Then Is What"s In The Whole 2009. Ya Know I Used To Make Them 2009"s When 
I Was A Kid. They Was Called Models I Glued Together. LMAO
Kevin...
Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many LOL

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Tom Rightler  wrote:


From: Tom Rightler 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 6:55 AM





I got some news for you therre skippy.  That 2009 car is built from much 
stronger metal than the 59 Impala is.  Not to mention the 2009 car is much more 
structurally sound than the 59 as well as the fact that the metal in the 59 has 
had 50 years to begin deteriorating.  News cars are designed so the passenger 
compartment doesn't crush and it did it's job.  That video is very real.  If 
you were driving the 59 Impala in that video..you'd be dead, period.
 
Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Brown 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash





That"s Bullshit!! No Way Would That 2009 Stand Up Against The 59. I Have Seen 
Alot Of Wrecks in My Day That 59 Would of Cut The 2009 In Half!! What Did They 
Do To The 59 Take Out All The Fender Bolts Etc.. I Had A 61 That Knocked Over A 
Friggin Tree And Only Put A V In The Front. Yes It Was A Waste Of 

Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash

[ROARKE PONCE]

Wayne you are correct.  Stronger is not the perfect word to describe the new 
cars.  They are better at transferring impact energies around the passenger 
compartment.  Rather then allowing the impact forces to bang up the occupants, 
the frame rails crush and absorb some energy then the extremely strong 
passenger cage transfers the remaining energy around the passengers.  Pure 
strength does come into play on the sides, the rockers, pillars and doors, 
since the vehicle manufacturers have about 6-8 inches at most to stop a 
incoming impact.  

Roarke



From: badchevel...@hotmail.com
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:35:31 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash








Interesting discussion. Many of you hit the nail on the head except IMHO the 09 
and most modern designed cars are not "Stronger" but  there engineered to be  
energy absorbing in the uni-shell construction.   The  Shock absorbing crush 
paneled design in the 09 is obvious in the film. STRONGER Solid is not always 
better

 

my .02

 

Wayne 

 





From: rvaepo...@q.com
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:23:09 +
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash



I have to agree with Tom.  The front structure in that 09 Malibu is incredibly 
strong, just like in just about every 09 sedan now made.  
http://www.goodwrench.com/gmgoodwrenchjsp/gmspo/Chevrolet/Malibu/2008/02_Structure_Identification.pdf
 shows what metals are in the front.  As for the airbag timing, the computer in 
a modern car can detect a collision event in 1-3 milliseconds.  The airbags are 
deployed in 3-5 milliseconds after that.  The above average human reaction time 
is 7 hundreds or a second.  (.0001 for the computer and .07 for the human { 
http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/reactiontime.html }).  If you look close 
at that video or any other with a modern airbag deployment, you see that the 
occupants head is actually deflected away from the steering wheel, to the left 
side in this case.  Yes, he probably would have soft tissue damage (whiplash) 
but he will walk away.

I work in a collision shop and every day I hear people say things like Kevin 
did here.  But they do not realize that they are still alive after that wreck 
because the new car they drive is so incredibly strong.  Most wrecks people 
have today would have killed someone if they happened in a "old" car.  Just my 
2 cents.

Roarke Ponce
Shop Manager
Excel Auto Body, LLC
I-CAR Platinum Individual
ASE Master Tech Repair, Refinish and Estimating








From: bluess...@comcast.net
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:55:24 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash





I got some news for you therre skippy.  That 2009 car is built from much 
stronger metal than the 59 Impala is.  Not to mention the 2009 car is much more 
structurally sound than the 59 as well as the fact that the metal in the 59 has 
had 50 years to begin deteriorating.  News cars are designed so the passenger 
compartment doesn't crush and it did it's job.  That video is very real.  If 
you were driving the 59 Impala in that video..you'd be dead, period.
 
Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Brown 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash





That"s Bullshit!! No Way Would That 2009 Stand Up Against The 59. I Have Seen 
Alot Of Wrecks in My Day That 59 Would of Cut The 2009 In Half!! What Did They 
Do To The 59 Take Out All The Fender Bolts Etc.. I Had A 61 That Knocked Over A 
Friggin Tree And Only Put A V In The Front. Yes It Was A Waste Of A Beautiful 
Car But Re-Look The Video Over Can't Be Real.. Slight Knee Injury?? The Air 
Bags Was Too Slow To Deploy. Look at The Dummy In The 2009"s Head Is Whips The 
Steering Wheel Like A Bag Of OrangesAsk Me I Would Rather Have A 59 Anyday 
If I Was Gonna Crash Into Today"s Cars.. 

Kevin...
Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many LOL

--- On Mon, 9/21/09, Larry Williams  wrote:


From: Larry Williams 
Subject: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: "Chevelle List" 
Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:58 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CU-k0XmLUk

What a waste of a beautiful classic car.  As*holes!

Larry
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Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash

[ROARKE PONCE]

I have to agree with Tom.  The front structure in that 09 Malibu is incredibly 
strong, just like in just about every 09 sedan now made.  
http://www.goodwrench.com/gmgoodwrenchjsp/gmspo/Chevrolet/Malibu/2008/02_Structure_Identification.pdf
 shows what metals are in the front.  As for the airbag timing, the computer in 
a modern car can detect a collision event in 1-3 milliseconds.  The airbags are 
deployed in 3-5 milliseconds after that.  The above average human reaction time 
is 7 hundreds or a second.  (.0001 for the computer and .07 for the human { 
http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/reactiontime.html }).  If you look close 
at that video or any other with a modern airbag deployment, you see that the 
occupants head is actually deflected away from the steering wheel, to the left 
side in this case.  Yes, he probably would have soft tissue damage (whiplash) 
but he will walk away.

I work in a collision shop and every day I hear people say things like Kevin 
did here.  But they do not realize that they are still alive after that wreck 
because the new car they drive is so incredibly strong.  Most wrecks people 
have today would have killed someone if they happened in a "old" car.  Just my 
2 cents.

Roarke Ponce
Shop Manager
Excel Auto Body, LLC
I-CAR Platinum Individual
ASE Master Tech Repair, Refinish and Estimating


From: bluess...@comcast.net
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:55:24 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash










I got some news for you therre skippy.  That 
2009 car is built from much stronger metal than the 59 Impala is.  Not to 
mention the 2009 car is much more structurally sound than the 59 as well as the 
fact that the metal in the 59 has had 50 years to begin deteriorating.  
News cars are designed so the passenger compartment doesn't crush and it did 
it's job.  That video is very real.  If you were driving the 59 Impala 
in that video..you'd be dead, period.
 
Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin 
  Brown 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:46 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube 
  crash
  

  


  That"s Bullshit!! No Way Would That 2009 Stand Up Against 
The 59. I Have Seen Alot Of Wrecks in My Day That 59 Would of Cut The 
2009 In Half!! What Did They Do To The 59 Take Out All The Fender Bolts 
Etc.. I Had A 61 That Knocked Over A Friggin Tree And Only Put A V In 
The Front. Yes It Was A Waste Of A Beautiful Car But Re-Look The Video 
Over Can't Be Real.. Slight Knee Injury?? The Air Bags Was Too Slow To 
Deploy. Look at The Dummy In The 2009"s Head Is Whips The Steering 
Wheel 
Like A Bag Of OrangesAsk Me I Would Rather Have A 59 Anyday If I 
Was 
Gonna Crash Into Today"s Cars.. 

Kevin...
Father To 
Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler
Grandpa To Many LOL

--- On 
Mon, 9/21/09, Larry Williams 
 wrote:


From: 
  Larry Williams 
Subject: 
  [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
To: "Chevelle List" 
  
Date: Monday, September 21, 
  2009, 9:58 PM


  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CU-k0XmLUk

What 
  a waste of a beautiful classic car.  
  As*holes!

Larry
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice Summer

[ROARKE PONCE]

HA!  Wow.  Small world.  Love taking day drives up there...the green fields and 
bits of forest around the north of the lake are nice.  Except the mosquitoes.  
And the seem to be immune to bug spray now.

Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:19:17 -0700
From: tjjchevy2...@yahoo.com
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice Summer



Well what do you knowI used to live in Fort Klamath.
Chevy66

From: ROARKE PONCE 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:50:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice Summer






Southern Oregon.  Blip on the map called Klamath Falls

Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:49:24 +
From: z16chevelle...@comcast.net
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice Summer




Roarke:

Where are you located?

Larry (Z)

- Original Message -
From: "ROARKE PONCE" 
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:16:09 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice Summer



Must be nice.  What are the summers like?  Its been hot here in my part of the 
pacific northwest this summer (average 85F).  They tell us we will not get any 
snow this upcoming winter either.  Might be a nice break since we had to shovel 
snow off the roof twice last winter to keep the house from caving in.

Roarke








From: johann.grob...@absamail.co.za
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:16:19 +0200
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice Summer





Hullo Larry, 
The snow was terrible, about 100 miles away from my home! Get some frost and 
night temp drops to -8°C at its worst and daytime temp about 18°C. very 
Medetiranian. We get light snow about every 10-12 Years!
 

- Original Message - 
From: z16chevelle...@comcast.net 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice Summer


Well Johann I hope your "Winter " was nice.
 By the way what are your winters like? 
Did you have 2 feet of snow like I did?
 
Larry (Z)

- Original Message -
From: "Johann Grobler" 
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:41:41 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] remove me from your mailing list

 



Sorry!  One Month to Spring. Still a little bit of snow around.

- Original Message - 
From: z16chevelle...@comcast.net 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] remove me from your mailing list


Kind of like "Old Home Week", I think everyone 
lurking in the background has stepped forward ! 
I hope everyone is having a good summer as I am.
 
Larry (Z)

- Original Message -
From: "Peter Hnat" 
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:14:17 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] remove me from your mailing list






It has been a long time since someone asked to be removed. I agree with Josh….I 
never get tired of that either. Good way to add some humor to the day.
 
 
Pete Hnat
’69 Chevelle SS
 

From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net 
[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Josh Campbell
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:54 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] remove me from your mailing list
 




I never get tired of that!!

Josh Campbell

The Body Shop (606) 265-5301

66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisseree, 1st car never part with it)

66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the steering wheel)

87 Monte Carlo SS Sadly sold it guy offered me more than I thought it was worth

71 Malibu FOR SALE NEED MORE SPACE IN THE SHOP!

You should never have a battle of wits with morons ... they'll just drag you 
down to their level & beat you with experience. 


--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Bill Lessenberry  wrote:

From: Bill Lessenberry 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] remove me from your mailing list
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 3:58 PM

At 02:41 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:


please remove me from your mailing list.

Hot diggety dog!!
We haven't had one of these in a long time.  So, here ya go Derek--

To unsubscribe from this service you must first purchase a 
Craft-O-Matic Adjustable Subscription Cancellation Unit. The unit can be 
obtained from most hardware stores and dental clinics. 
Be sure to obtain the proper permits to operate the unit from the 
Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the Food and Drug Administration in 
Washington D.C. USA. 
Be sure to carefully unpack the kit and place each component in its 
accompanying mesh safety bag. 
Mount the Pershing DF4 mesinator on top of the perforated Gerring Mach 
77 refibulator and attach them using the eight-millimeter torque fork. 
Be sure that the refibulator is mounted at a 66 degree angle and 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice Summer

[ROARKE PONCE]

Southern Oregon.  Blip on the map called Klamath Falls

Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:49:24 +
From: z16chevelle...@comcast.net
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice Summer




Roarke:

Where are you located?

Larry (Z)

- Original Message -
From: "ROARKE PONCE" 
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:16:09 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice Summer



Must be nice.  What are the summers like?  Its been hot here in my part of the 
pacific northwest this summer (average 85F).  They tell us we will not get any 
snow this upcoming winter either.  Might be a nice break since we had to shovel 
snow off the roof twice last winter to keep the house from caving in.

Roarke








From: johann.grob...@absamail.co.za
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:16:19 +0200
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice Summer





Hullo Larry, 
The snow was terrible, about 100 miles away from my home! Get some frost and 
night temp drops to -8°C at its worst and daytime temp about 18°C. very 
Medetiranian. We get light snow about every 10-12 Years!
 

- Original Message - 
From: z16chevelle...@comcast.net 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice Summer


Well Johann I hope your "Winter " was nice.
 By the way what are your winters like? 
Did you have 2 feet of snow like I did?
 
Larry (Z)

- Original Message -
From: "Johann Grobler" 
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:41:41 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] remove me from your mailing list

 



Sorry!  One Month to Spring. Still a little bit of snow around.

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From: z16chevelle...@comcast.net 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] remove me from your mailing list


Kind of like "Old Home Week", I think everyone 
lurking in the background has stepped forward ! 
I hope everyone is having a good summer as I am.
 
Larry (Z)

- Original Message -
From: "Peter Hnat" 
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Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:14:17 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
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It has been a long time since someone asked to be removed. I agree with Josh….I 
never get tired of that either. Good way to add some humor to the day.
 
 
Pete Hnat
’69 Chevelle SS
 

From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net 
[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Josh Campbell
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:54 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] remove me from your mailing list
 




I never get tired of that!!

Josh Campbell

The Body Shop (606) 265-5301

66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisseree, 1st car never part with it)

66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the steering wheel)

87 Monte Carlo SS Sadly sold it guy offered me more than I thought it was worth

71 Malibu FOR SALE NEED MORE SPACE IN THE SHOP!

You should never have a battle of wits with morons ... they'll just drag you 
down to their level & beat you with experience. 


--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Bill Lessenberry  wrote:

From: Bill Lessenberry 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] remove me from your mailing list
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 3:58 PM

At 02:41 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:


please remove me from your mailing list.

Hot diggety dog!!
We haven't had one of these in a long time.  So, here ya go Derek--

To unsubscribe from this service you must first purchase a 
Craft-O-Matic Adjustable Subscription Cancellation Unit. The unit can be 
obtained from most hardware stores and dental clinics. 
Be sure to obtain the proper permits to operate the unit from the 
Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the Food and Drug Administration in 
Washington D.C. USA. 
Be sure to carefully unpack the kit and place each component in its 
accompanying mesh safety bag. 
Mount the Pershing DF4 mesinator on top of the perforated Gerring Mach 
77 refibulator and attach them using the eight-millimeter torque fork. 
Be sure that the refibulator is mounted at a 66 degree angle and 
properly dispersed so that it is flush with the curved section of the 
Pyrex thistle tube. Place the four sections of the triangular separation 
gear into the posture cylinder and lock them into place using the 
band aid adhesive strip. Insert the wiggling pin into the wobbling hole, making 
sure that it seated correctly. 
Place the D cell battery and the eleven 9 volt batteries in the power 
chamber. 
The device should be calibrated before operation using the optional 
digital corkscrew accessory pack prior to operation. Insert the digital 
corkscrew through the electronic 
combustion service chamber 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice Summer

[ROARKE PONCE]

Must be nice.  What are the summers like?  Its been hot here in my part of the 
pacific northwest this summer (average 85F).  They tell us we will not get any 
snow this upcoming winter either.  Might be a nice break since we had to shovel 
snow off the roof twice last winter to keep the house from caving in.

Roarke

From: johann.grob...@absamail.co.za
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:16:19 +0200
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice Summer










Hullo Larry, 
The snow was terrible, about 100 miles away from my 
home! Get some frost and night temp drops to -8°C at its worst and daytime temp 
about 18°C. very Medetiranian. We get light snow about every 10-12 
Years!
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  z16chevelle...@comcast.net 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:30 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Nice 
  Summer
  

  
  Well Johann I hope your "Winter " was nice.

   By the way what are your winters like? 

  Did you have 2 feet of snow like I did?

   

  Larry (Z)

  
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  Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:41:41 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
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  Sorry!  One Month to Spring. Still a little 
  bit of snow around.
  
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From: 
z16chevelle...@comcast.net 
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Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:34 
AM
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from your mailing list



Kind of like "Old Home Week", I think everyone 

lurking in the background has stepped forward ! 

I hope everyone is having a good summer as I am.

 

Larry (Z)


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From: "Peter Hnat" 
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Sent: Friday, August 
28, 2009 10:14:17 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
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It 
has been a long time since someone asked to be removed. I agree with 
Josh….I 
never get tired of that either. Good way to add some humor to the 
day.
 
 
Pete 
Hnat
’69 
Chevelle SS
 

From: 
chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net 
[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Josh 
Campbell
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:54 PM
To: The 
Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] remove me from 
your mailing list
 

  
  

  I never get tired of 
  that!!
  
  Josh 
  Campbell
  
  The Body 
  Shop (606) 265-5301
  
  66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisseree, 1st car never 
  part with it)
  
  66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the 
  steering wheel)
  
  87 Monte Carlo SS Sadly sold it guy offered me more 
  than I thought it was worth
  
  71 Malibu FOR SALE NEED MORE SPACE IN THE 
  SHOP!
  
  You should never have a battle of wits with morons 
  ... they'll just drag you down to their level & beat you with 
  experience. 
  

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Bill Lessenberry 
   wrote:
  
From: Bill 
  Lessenberry 
Subject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-list] remove me from your mailing list
To: "The Chevelle 
  Mailing List" 
Date: Thursday, 
  August 27, 2009, 3:58 PM
  
  At 02:41 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:


  please remove me from your mailing list.
  
Hot diggety dog!!
We haven't had 
  one of these in a long time.  So, here ya go 
  Derek--

To 
  unsubscribe from this service you must first purchase a 
  
Craft-O-Matic Adjustable Subscription Cancellation Unit. The unit 
  can be 
obtained from most hardware stores and dental clinics. 
  
Be sure to obtain the proper permits to operate the unit from the 
  
Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the Food and Drug Administration 
  in 
Washington D.C. USA. 
Be sure to carefully unpack the kit 
  and place each component in its 
accompanying mesh safety bag. 
  
Mount the Pershing DF4 mesinator on top of the perforated Gerring 
  Mach 
77 refibulator and attach them using the eight-millimeter 
  torque fork. 
Be sure that the refibulator is mounted at a 66 
  degree angle and 
properly dispersed so that it is flush with the 
  curved section of the 
Pyrex thistle tube. Place the four sections 
  of the triangular separation 
gear into the posture cylinder and 
  lock them into place using the 
band aid adhesive strip. Insert the 
  wiggling pin into the wobbling hole, making 
sure that it seated 
  correctly. 
Place the D

Re: [Chevelle-list] O/T rat traps

[ROARKE PONCE]

The only thing I have heard about electrocuting rats is that you have to 
maintain a electrical charge on them for a minimum of 2 minutes.  Supposedly a 
rat can restart its own heart for upwards of 2min after being "killed".

For what thats worth.

Roarke


From: harkema...@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:24:02 -0400
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: [Chevelle-list] O/T rat traps

Has anyone used these? or know if they work?

 Click here: Rat Zapper Electric Rat and Mouse Trap On Sale 



thanks!

Harlan

Re: [Chevelle-list] 1966 3" Cowl Induction Hood

[ROARKE PONCE]

AH OK...no 3s then...  I am trying to find something to clear a 496 big block 
with a high rise intake on a friends car.

Thanks for the tip on up-22.



To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:01:25 -0400
From: bad66chevelle...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 1966 3" Cowl Induction Hood


 I don't believe there is a vendor for 3" Cowl Hoods. When I was looking into 
them, I want to say all I found was 4". I believe it was Harwood that produced 
these, and they are fiberglass, not steel. I personally have a steel 2" cowl 
induction hood and absolutely love it. I bought it at True Connections, 
1-800-600-4144. 



As a warning, DO NOT buy anything from UP-22.com. They make absolutely horrible 
stuff, and I've heard horror story after horror story about them. 



Good Luck-

Tim



 



 


-Original Message-

From: ROARKE PONCE 

To: The Chevelle Mailing List 

Sent: Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:11 am

Subject: [Chevelle-list] 1966 3" Cowl Induction Hood















Anyone have a good vendor for a 3" hood.  I can find 2" but 3s are harder to 
find.  I want something that is good quality too of course.



Any ideas??

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[Chevelle-list] 1966 3" Cowl Induction Hood

[ROARKE PONCE]

Anyone have a good vendor for a 3" hood.  I can find 2" but 3s are harder to 
find.  I want something that is good quality too of course.

Any ideas??

Re: [Chevelle-list] Out of Office

[ROARKE PONCE]

I already notified the list admin and hopefully he will be able to block the 
guys email till he gets back in the office.

> From: jaybi...@elknet.net
> To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:45:46 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Out of Office
> 
> everyone cal his cell phone and tell him we have an emergency
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> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:17 PM
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> 
> > How many times are we going to have to delete this
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> > - Original Message - 
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> > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Out of Office
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> > 
> > I will be out of the office until Tuesday 6/23/09. If you need immediate 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] what the hell is this anyways??

[ROARKE PONCE]

SPAM!!!

Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Alignment

[ROARKE PONCE]

Good point.

Hey Rick, what do you define as SAG?  When you say the alignment isnt 
close...in what way??  Toe, chamber, etc...  What is the wheel base...??

I can probably get you frame dimensions for your car (I would have to dig 
through a pile of old books).  If the front of the frame does have sag, with 
the doors and fenders not lining up, the damage on the frame is probably in the 
kickup area under the firewall.  Other then wheel base settings, that will 
probably not affect your alignment unless both rails are different.

Like I said before, I wouldnt have anyone do any pulls on your car unless they 
setup and measure it first and can point to the issue and show you what is 
wrong.

Roarke

From: jimthompso...@gmail.com
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:31:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Alignment



















Pull the whole front clip in one piece. You need to really see
what is going on. Unless the car has been wrecked. There should be no reason
for sag. You got a problem that will only get worse if you just start pulling
on it.

 

You changed upper arms. New bushings in the lower? Stock spinals?
Original springs? Ball joints?

 



From:
chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net
[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer

Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:01 PM

To: countryroad...@yahoo.com; The Chevelle Mailing List

Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Alignment



 



   I should have been more specific about the
mounts.  They are going to loosen the frame mount, but said the rubber
could still tear.  How I'm not sure?   He was concerned about
their age ( 10 years or so). Now my question back at
you -  If they REMOVED the mounts - what supports the front of the
motor?  





 





   How do I know
there is sag?   First 2 different shops could not achieve near the
recommended alignment #'s after my Global West Upper Control Arm conversion.  
Even with MOOG Frame-Saver offset cross shafts.  Also - yes the
door/fender gaps on both sides have never been right & the hood/fender
gaps are off too.   I'm wanting to go for paint later this spring and
want this to be the last paint it needs. 





On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Josh Campbell  wrote:


 
  
  Dang I'm glad I read this
  before I replied, you hit the nail on the head, especially the fact of taking
  the motor mounts off if they are afraid of ripping them.
  
  Josh
  Campbell
  
  
  The Body Shop
  (606) 265-5301
  
  
  66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisseree, 1st car never part
  with it)
  
  
  66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the
  steering wheel)
  
  
  87 Monte Carlo SS Sadly sold it guy offered me more than I
  thought it was worth
  
  
  71 Malibu FOR SALE NEED MORE SPACE IN THE SHOP!
  
  

  

  --- On Tue, 3/10/09, ROARKE PONCE  wrote:
  From: ROARKE PONCE 

  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Alignment

  To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 

  Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 4:46 PM 
  
  
   
  
  I am a Shop Manager for a
  Body Shop in Oregon, and I have some questions for you.  How do you know
  it has some Sag?  How much Sag is there?  Is the sheetmetal aligned
  with the frame as it is?  

  

  If they are pulling hard enough to possibly tear the motor mounts, they need
  to remove the mounts, no need to damage good parts because of being too lazy
  to do it right.

  

  Asking if 6-7 hours is OK is like going to a grocery store and asking the
  Manager "How much is a bag of groceries?".  Beats me, don't
  know the particulars of whats in the bag.  Same thing here, how far off
  is the frame?  How much time is needed to remove and reinstall any trim,
  sheetmetal or mechanical parts that are in the way?  Etc...

  

  Hope this helps,

  

  Roarke Ponce

  Shop Manager

  Excel Auto Body, LLC

  541-880-0522  fax 541-850-5231 

  excelautob...@e-isco.com
  

  I-CAR Platinum Individual

  ASE Master Tech Repair, Refinish and Estimating

  

  

  
  
  
  
  Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009
  11:23:52 -0500

  From: ric...@gmail.com

  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net

  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Frame Alignment
  
The frame on my 72 el camino has some
  sag.I've never been able to get the recommended alignment
  specs to optimize the installed Global West Upper control arms.  I
  finally found a body shop in this city who still has the PRINTED books
  with the necessary specs.   Shop is a semi-retired father and
  son.  They did collision work on my Jeep 12-15 years ago.  And it
  looked good for the 6-8 years I kept the car so I have a bit of confidence in
  them.
  
  
   
  
  
 What do I need
  to question them on/ask them to check -  to ensure a thorough
  job?   They said its a 6-7 hour job - sound
  reasonable? Also said that its possible that the
  motor mounts will tear-  they loosen them but no guarantee that they
  won't tear - reasonable

Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Alignment

[ROARKE PONCE]

They make 3 leg motor slings that rest on the fender flanges and the front core 
support and that is what you have to use to hold the motor up off the mounts so 
that you do not tear stuff up.  If they leave the bolts in the holes and then 
make the pulls, I would replace the bolts and mounts after wards.  Yah, it 
maybe usable, but after being stressed in that manner, I would not run it in my 
own car.  Its up to you on that one.  Alot of this depends on how far and how 
hard they have to pull...

OK. Its actually good that the sheet metal alignment is off.  They can use the 
body to help determine how far to go with the pulls.  If the car needs to be 
painted and such all the better too...cause they have to pull beyond the point 
they need the frame to be at and try and let it settle back into place.  Think 
of setting a compound fracture.  You have to pull the bone ahead and beyond 
then let it rest back into position.

I would definitely have the shop check for cracks before and after the pulls.  
If they are a good shop, they should be OK with you asking to see the car after 
setup and before the first pulls.  Have them show you where the frame is 
damaged and then again after they make the pulls, to show you where they have 
repaired it before they undercoat anything.  This way too you can have a idea 
as to what they have done (Have them take photos if you cant be there in 
person).  Remember the steel on these old beasts is extremely mild steel, heat 
doesnt hurt it unless its dripping steel on the floor.  The more you can cold 
straighten the better, but if its off by as much as it sounds, they very well 
may have to heat a spot or two.

I hope they can fix it for you...

Roarke


Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:01:19 -0500
From: ric...@gmail.com
To: countryroad...@yahoo.com; chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Alignment

   I should have been more specific about the mounts.  They are going to loosen 
the frame mount, but said the rubber could still tear.  How I'm not sure?   He 
was concerned about their age ( 10 years or so). Now my question back at 
you -  If they REMOVED the mounts - what supports the front of the motor?  

 
   How do I know there is sag?   First 2 different shops could not achieve near 
the recommended alignment #'s after my Global West Upper Control Arm 
conversion.   Even with MOOG Frame-Saver offset cross shafts.  Also - yes the 
door/fender gaps on both sides have never been right & the hood/fender gaps are 
off too.   I'm wanting to go for paint later this spring and want this to be 
the last paint it needs. 



On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Josh Campbell  wrote:





Dang I'm glad I read this before I replied, you hit the nail on the head, 
especially the fact of taking the motor mounts off if they are afraid of 
ripping them.


Josh Campbell
The Body Shop (606) 265-5301
66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisseree, 1st car never part with it)
66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the steering wheel)
87 Monte Carlo SS Sadly sold it guy offered me more than I thought it was worth
71 Malibu FOR SALE NEED MORE SPACE IN THE SHOP!

--- On Tue, 3/10/09, ROARKE PONCE  wrote:

From: ROARKE PONCE 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Alignment

To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 4:46 PM 





I am a Shop Manager for a Body Shop in Oregon, and I have some questions for 
you.  How do you know it has some Sag?  How much Sag is there?  Is the 
sheetmetal aligned with the frame as it is?  

If they are pulling hard enough to possibly tear the motor mounts, they need to 
remove the mounts, no need to damage good parts because of being too lazy to do 
it right.


Asking if 6-7 hours is OK is like going to a grocery store and asking the 
Manager "How much is a bag of groceries?".  Beats me, don't know the 
particulars of whats in the bag.  Same thing here, how far off is the frame?  
How much time is needed to remove and reinstall any trim, sheetmetal or 
mechanical parts that are in the way?  Etc...


Hope this helps,

Roarke Ponce
Shop Manager
Excel Auto Body, LLC
541-880-0522  fax 541-850-5231 
excelautob...@e-isco.com 
I-CAR Platinum Individual

ASE Master Tech Repair, Refinish and Estimating





Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:23:52 -0500
From: ric...@gmail.com
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net

Subject: [Chevelle-list] Frame Alignment


  The frame on my 72 el camino has some sag.I've never been able to get the 
recommended alignment specs to optimize the installed Global West Upper control 
arms.  I finally found a body shop in this city who still has the PRINTED books 
with the necessary specs.   Shop is a semi-retired father and son.  They did 
collision work on my Jeep 12-15 years ago.  And it looked good for the 6-8 
years I kept the car so I have a bit of confidence in them.

 
   What do I need to question them on/ask them to check -  to ensure a thorough 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Frame Alignment

[ROARKE PONCE]

I am a Shop Manager for a Body Shop in Oregon, and I have some questions for 
you.  How do you know it has some Sag?  How much Sag is there?  Is the 
sheetmetal aligned with the frame as it is?  

If they are pulling hard enough to possibly tear the motor mounts, they need to 
remove the mounts, no need to damage good parts because of being too lazy to do 
it right.

Asking if 6-7 hours is OK is like going to a grocery store and asking the 
Manager "How much is a bag of groceries?".  Beats me, don't know the 
particulars of whats in the bag.  Same thing here, how far off is the frame?  
How much time is needed to remove and reinstall any trim, sheetmetal or 
mechanical parts that are in the way?  Etc...

Hope this helps,

Roarke Ponce
Shop Manager
Excel Auto Body, LLC
541-880-0522  fax 541-850-5231 
excelautob...@e-isco.com 
I-CAR Platinum Individual
ASE Master Tech Repair, Refinish and Estimating



Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:23:52 -0500
From: ric...@gmail.com
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Frame Alignment

  The frame on my 72 el camino has some sag.I've never been able to get the 
recommended alignment specs to optimize the installed Global West Upper control 
arms.  I finally found a body shop in this city who still has the PRINTED books 
with the necessary specs.   Shop is a semi-retired father and son.  They did 
collision work on my Jeep 12-15 years ago.  And it looked good for the 6-8 
years I kept the car so I have a bit of confidence in them.

 
   What do I need to question them on/ask them to check -  to ensure a thorough 
job?   They said its a 6-7 hour job - sound reasonable? Also said that its 
possible that the motor mounts will tear-  they loosen them but no guarantee 
that they won't tear - reasonable? Thanx.

-- 
Rick Schaefer
72 TPI El Camino

Re: [Chevelle-list] car cover

[ROARKE PONCE]

Here ya go:  http://www.carcapsule.com/

From: col...@warwick.net
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:15:35 -0500
Subject: [Chevelle-list] car cover










My Brother in law bought a 67 
lemans and has no inside storage.I want to get him a good out door cover and am 
looking for suggestions. thanks Jimmy.C

Re: [Chevelle-list] Shut Doors

[ROARKE PONCE]

True.  If those springs are still intact though, the cams around which the 
levers pivot will wear at a different rate then the lever.  This causes the 
hole in the lever to wear into a oval shape.  Thus it requires more travel to 
activate each part of the latch.  Often the remotes (the inside handle part) 
will wear in the same manner.  That might be why the inside handle was not 
working on one car and the outside wasnt working on another.


> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:16:01 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Shut Doors
> 
> I had a similar problem on my 65 Malibu right hand drive. With latches not 
> available locally (South Africa) you start to improvise. What I found is 
> that the latch has three internal springs. Two of them were broken. This 
> resulted in the push-pull method of opening and the softly push/bump 
> closing.  Made up new springs and the door is fine! To use more force only 
> aggrevates the problem. The latch is fairly simple to repair. Take your 
> time! A rushed job is a botched job!
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Shut Doors
> 
> 
> > That's interesting. Thanks.
> >
> > Considering that I drove the car for four winters with no heat and  just 
> > got around to fixing that last year, the door problem has been  low on the 
> > priority list.
> >
> >
> > Quoting ROARKE PONCE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >>
> >> My father-in-law said to take the latch and handle out and slip   hoses 
> >> (old brake hose, gas line, whatever has a small enough ID to   fit) over 
> >> the ends of the levers.  If I remember correctly, you can   put hoses on 
> >> both sides if needed or just one.  Depends on how much   slack you have 
> >> to take up.  Buys you some time before replacing the   latch.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Roarke
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Shut Doors

[ROARKE PONCE]

My father-in-law said to take the latch and handle out and slip hoses (old 
brake hose, gas line, whatever has a small enough ID to fit) over the ends of 
the levers.  If I remember correctly, you can put hoses on both sides if needed 
or just one.  Depends on how much slack you have to take up.  Buys you some 
time before replacing the latch.

Hope this helps.

Roarke

> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:41:02 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Shut Doors
> 
> In case you haven't already tried this...
> 
> On my 1969 El Camino I usually have to pull up on the inside door  
> handle and push in the outside button at the same time in order to get  
> out of the car (fun when it's raining). The outside button always  
> works though, so it's not as bad as yours.
> 
> Good luck,
> John
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Chevelle-list] floor pans

[ROARKE PONCE]

Are you concerned about weight?  Thickness?  Sound deadening capabilities 
verses heat protection?  What are you going to put on top of it??

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I have a 65 Malibu SS convertible. The car is gutted. What does
everyone think about using truck bed roll on liner on the floor pans vs Lizard
Skin or Dyno mat?

 

 

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Re: [Chevelle-list] black cars

[ROARKE PONCE]

We just found a product that we use now at my bodyshop.  Its made by a company 
called Wizards.  Shine Master I think.  Its only 12:45am here...so I am not 
100% on the name.  I will double check it in the morning and let you know.

We had a 77 Firebird t/a that we just delivered.  It was a candy red/pink/blue 
color (don't ask, my 4 year old daughter dubbed it "Clown Car" when she saw it 
rolled outta the booth).  But anyway, we did our final polish with this Wizards 
stuff.  3 weeks later and several washes and no wax on the car at all and no 
swirl marks or anything.  My painter says that it works slick on black.  The 
shop that turned me onto this stuff says it removes swirl marks forever, but I 
have not used it that long yet.

Application is pretty simple if you are capable with a high speed buffer.  Just 
dribble a small amount on the panel, turn your buffer speed up and lay into the 
panel.  Not for cars with inadequate clear film build.  I will check with my 
painter about how it works on single stage, if it does...

Hope this helps, I will let you know more in the morning about the full name 
and anything else my painter can think of for ya.

Roarke
72 Chevelle



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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:12:00 -0400
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: [Chevelle-list] black cars

wondering if anyone has a black car out there and what product they use to take 
out the swirls/fine scratches ??





thanks



Harlan


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