Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

[Chum Nault]

Jim

Thanks for the info, that matches where I thought they were located, I took
pictures before I cut anything out so I had a good refrence

 

Chum

 

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[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Jim Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:19 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

 

I looked at some of the pics I took on tear down. There are two tabs one is
just below the steering column where the fire wall bends back, The second is
on the side of the trans tunnel across from the floor drain plug. I have a
munci and it is on the passenger side of the tunnel. The cable comes across
and over the trans. 

 

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[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:59 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

 

Haven't had any activity for a while so I thought I would start it off with
some technical questions

I am replacing the master cylinder on my 65 L79 malibu with Manual Brakes.
(The original cylinder is to pitted to rebuild). It came with a 1 inch
cylinder but as I am looking for a new one I see that the HD brakes used a
7/8" cylinder. As far as I can tell the rest of the components are the same.
Am I better off using the original 1" or will I gain anything with the 7/8".
I am restoring this vehicle back to original, it is far from numbers
matching but I want everything to look as original as possible. There are
quite a few different manufactures but the original delco is not available
any suggestions on what to buy, Dorman, A1 Cardone, Centric, Reybestos,
Bendix, or Wagner.

I also just realized that when I replaced the floor I didn't replace the
return spring retainer that is welded in. can anyone give me a measurement
for the correct location, just the distance from the "Heel" or "toe" bends
at the lower cowl area, this would have been a lot easier while it was on
the rotisserie rather than back on the frame. I also omitted the speedo
cable retainers if someone can give me an idea where they were originally
locsated. 

 

Thanks 

Chum Nault

 

Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

[Jim Thompson]

I looked at some of the pics I took on tear down. There are two tabs one is
just below the steering column where the fire wall bends back, The second is
on the side of the trans tunnel across from the floor drain plug. I have a
munci and it is on the passenger side of the tunnel. The cable comes across
and over the trans. 

 

From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net
[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:59 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

 

Haven't had any activity for a while so I thought I would start it off with
some technical questions

I am replacing the master cylinder on my 65 L79 malibu with Manual Brakes.
(The original cylinder is to pitted to rebuild). It came with a 1 inch
cylinder but as I am looking for a new one I see that the HD brakes used a
7/8" cylinder. As far as I can tell the rest of the components are the same.
Am I better off using the original 1" or will I gain anything with the 7/8".
I am restoring this vehicle back to original, it is far from numbers
matching but I want everything to look as original as possible. There are
quite a few different manufactures but the original delco is not available
any suggestions on what to buy, Dorman, A1 Cardone, Centric, Reybestos,
Bendix, or Wagner.

I also just realized that when I replaced the floor I didn't replace the
return spring retainer that is welded in. can anyone give me a measurement
for the correct location, just the distance from the "Heel" or "toe" bends
at the lower cowl area, this would have been a lot easier while it was on
the rotisserie rather than back on the frame. I also omitted the speedo
cable retainers if someone can give me an idea where they were originally
locsated. 

 

Thanks 

Chum Nault

 

Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

[Johann Grobler]

Morning Chum and Jim,
I also own a 65 Malibu as well as a 1974 Australian/South African  Chevrolet 
Kommando “A” body. The The bodies are similar and the Kommando comes out with a 
Bendix steering system. So my gut feel is to go with the Bendix.
Johann

From: Jim Thompson 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:29 AM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

http://www.getdiscbrakes.com/RightStuff/Default.aspx

 

Great family business. Just call they won’t steer your wrong. 

 

From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net 
[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:59 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

 

Haven’t had any activity for a while so I thought I would start it off with 
some technical questions

I am replacing the master cylinder on my 65 L79 malibu with Manual Brakes. (The 
original cylinder is to pitted to rebuild). It came with a 1 inch cylinder but 
as I am looking for a new one I see that the HD brakes used a 7/8” cylinder. As 
far as I can tell the rest of the components are the same. Am I better off 
using the original 1” or will I gain anything with the 7/8”. I am restoring 
this vehicle back to original, it is far from numbers matching but I want 
everything to look as original as possible. There are quite a few different 
manufactures but the original delco is not available any suggestions on what to 
buy, Dorman, A1 Cardone, Centric, Reybestos, Bendix, or Wagner.

I also just realized that when I replaced the floor I didn’t replace the return 
spring retainer that is welded in. can anyone give me a measurement for the 
correct location, just the distance from the “Heel” or “toe” bends at the lower 
cowl area, this would have been a lot easier while it was on the rotisserie 
rather than back on the frame. I also omitted the speedo cable retainers if 
someone can give me an idea where they were originally locsated. 

 

Thanks 

Chum Nault

 

Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

[Jim Thompson]

http://www.getdiscbrakes.com/RightStuff/Default.aspx

 

Great family business. Just call they won't steer your wrong. 

 

From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net
[mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:59 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder

 

Haven't had any activity for a while so I thought I would start it off with
some technical questions

I am replacing the master cylinder on my 65 L79 malibu with Manual Brakes.
(The original cylinder is to pitted to rebuild). It came with a 1 inch
cylinder but as I am looking for a new one I see that the HD brakes used a
7/8" cylinder. As far as I can tell the rest of the components are the same.
Am I better off using the original 1" or will I gain anything with the 7/8".
I am restoring this vehicle back to original, it is far from numbers
matching but I want everything to look as original as possible. There are
quite a few different manufactures but the original delco is not available
any suggestions on what to buy, Dorman, A1 Cardone, Centric, Reybestos,
Bendix, or Wagner.

I also just realized that when I replaced the floor I didn't replace the
return spring retainer that is welded in. can anyone give me a measurement
for the correct location, just the distance from the "Heel" or "toe" bends
at the lower cowl area, this would have been a lot easier while it was on
the rotisserie rather than back on the frame. I also omitted the speedo
cable retainers if someone can give me an idea where they were originally
locsated. 

 

Thanks 

Chum Nault

 

[Chevelle-list] master cylinder

[Chum Nault]

Haven't had any activity for a while so I thought I would start it off with
some technical questions

I am replacing the master cylinder on my 65 L79 malibu with Manual Brakes.
(The original cylinder is to pitted to rebuild). It came with a 1 inch
cylinder but as I am looking for a new one I see that the HD brakes used a
7/8" cylinder. As far as I can tell the rest of the components are the same.
Am I better off using the original 1" or will I gain anything with the 7/8".
I am restoring this vehicle back to original, it is far from numbers
matching but I want everything to look as original as possible. There are
quite a few different manufactures but the original delco is not available
any suggestions on what to buy, Dorman, A1 Cardone, Centric, Reybestos,
Bendix, or Wagner.

I also just realized that when I replaced the floor I didn't replace the
return spring retainer that is welded in. can anyone give me a measurement
for the correct location, just the distance from the "Heel" or "toe" bends
at the lower cowl area, this would have been a lot easier while it was on
the rotisserie rather than back on the frame. I also omitted the speedo
cable retainers if someone can give me an idea where they were originally
locsated. 

 

Thanks 

Chum Nault

 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

[Josh Campbell]

I personally haven't had any problems with Cardones' products. I used to work 
at a local speed shop/ parts store that deals thier products and rarely had any 
problems/ returns with them. I have used thier calipers and so far 6 years 
later they are holding up. But you know how the reman business is or for that 
matter the parts business as a whole sometimes you just get a bad part. I 
had a Moog tie rod wear out in less than 2 months time, I took it back, had it 
replaced and I was reimbursed through Federal Mogul for my alingment. 


Josh Campbell
The Body Shop (606) 265-5301
66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisseree, 1st car never part with it)
66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the steering wheel)
87 Monte Carlo SS (The modern Chevelle especially when you add the right stuff)
71 Malibu (Something new to blow my money on)

--- On Fri, 1/9/09, Rick Schaefer  wrote:

From: Rick Schaefer 
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 11:47 PM



 Need some suggestions on what to do for a new master cylinder - 72 elky 
with discs up front.  
 
  I have a never used - rebuilt master cylinder thats been sitting on a 
shelf for 10 years at least.   I opened it to check the bore and the bottom of 
the bore is pitted.  I tried honing and its better, but I can still feel the 
pitting with my finger.  Anyone have an idea on how much I can hone it? 
Or does anyone have a recommendation on who can sleeve it?
 
  OR -  NAPA has a NEW (not rebuilt) master cylinder for about $33.00 
.  PROBABLY  Chinese manufactured and while it resembles an original, it is 
obvious that its not an original. 
 
  OR - NAPA also has a Cardone rebuilt master cylinder for about $27.00  
I've heard differing opinions on the quality of Cardone 
 rebuilds.  
 
    If the cost isn't too great I'm leaning toward  having a sleeve put in the 
new rebuilt one I have.  Any other thoughts?  Thanx

-- 
Rick Schaefer
72 TPI El Camino





  

Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

[Johann Grobler]

Hi All,
Forty years ago we used to talk of Jap Scrap. Today it is Chinese Junk!  I 
purchased Chinese wheel studs only to discover they were made of mild steel!  
Criminal!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Schaefer 
  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:47 AM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder


   Need some suggestions on what to do for a new master cylinder - 72 elky 
with discs up front.  

I have a never used - rebuilt master cylinder thats been sitting on a 
shelf for 10 years at least.   I opened it to check the bore and the bottom of 
the bore is pitted.  I tried honing and its better, but I can still feel the 
pitting with my finger.  Anyone have an idea on how much I can hone it? 
Or does anyone have a recommendation on who can sleeve it?

OR -  NAPA has a NEW (not rebuilt) master cylinder for about $33.00 .   
   PROBABLY  Chinese manufactured and while it resembles an original, it is 
obvious that its not an original. 

OR - NAPA also has a Cardone rebuilt master cylinder for about $27.00  
I've heard differing opinions on the quality of Cardone 
   rebuilds.  

  If the cost isn't too great I'm leaning toward  having a sleeve put in 
the new rebuilt one I have.  Any other thoughts?  Thanx

  -- 
  Rick Schaefer
  72 TPI El Camino

Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

[Tom Rightler]

White Post Restorations does master cylinders.  They do a nice job too.  I had 
them do the one for a 67 E Type Jaguar.

Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Schaefer 
  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:47 PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder


   Need some suggestions on what to do for a new master cylinder - 72 elky 
with discs up front.  

I have a never used - rebuilt master cylinder thats been sitting on a 
shelf for 10 years at least.   I opened it to check the bore and the bottom of 
the bore is pitted.  I tried honing and its better, but I can still feel the 
pitting with my finger.  Anyone have an idea on how much I can hone it? 
Or does anyone have a recommendation on who can sleeve it?

OR -  NAPA has a NEW (not rebuilt) master cylinder for about $33.00 .   
   PROBABLY  Chinese manufactured and while it resembles an original, it is 
obvious that its not an original. 

OR - NAPA also has a Cardone rebuilt master cylinder for about $27.00  
I've heard differing opinions on the quality of Cardone 
   rebuilds.  

  If the cost isn't too great I'm leaning toward  having a sleeve put in 
the new rebuilt one I have.  Any other thoughts?  Thanx

  -- 
  Rick Schaefer
  72 TPI El Camino





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[Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

[Rick Schaefer]

 Need some suggestions on what to do for a new master cylinder - 72 elky
with discs up front.

  I have a never used - rebuilt master cylinder thats been sitting on a
shelf for 10 years at least.   I opened it to check the bore and the bottom
of the bore is pitted.  I tried honing and its better, but I can still feel
the pitting with my finger.  Anyone have an idea on how much I can hone
it? Or does anyone have a recommendation on who can sleeve it?

  OR -  NAPA has a NEW (not rebuilt) master cylinder for about $33.00
.  PROBABLY  Chinese manufactured and while it resembles an original, it
is obvious that its not an original.

  OR - NAPA also has a Cardone rebuilt master cylinder for about $27.00
I've heard differing opinions on the quality of Cardone
 rebuilds.

If the cost isn't too great I'm leaning toward  having a sleeve put in
the new rebuilt one I have.  Any other thoughts?  Thanx

-- 
Rick Schaefer
72 TPI El Camino

Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

[Mike Holleman]

Now that you mention it, :-)  Wasn't intended to have a double meaning. In 
this day and time we get our laughs where ever we can find them.

Mike
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From: "Dale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'The Chevelle Mailing List'" 
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding



For some reason that just reads funny, Mike.  LOL


Additionally, the master is not fully stroked when mounted, therefore
cannot be bleed as well as on the bench.
Mike





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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

[Brad Waller]

What if you put the rear of the car on ramps or jack stands?

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1
'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX 

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:43 PM
> To: Chevelle List
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
> 
> I would go with the vice. Its my understanding that there is 
> an area at the leading edge of the piston that can trap some 
> air if not sitting level. In the car it is higher than the 
> forward reservoir opening.
> 
> Godspeed,
> Dan Solomon
> It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you 
> are in a hurry.
> http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:32:33 
> To:chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
> 
> 
> The master cylinder works properly when driving, and its on 
> an angle...so why wouldnt it work if you're just bleeding it? 
> Granted, it's a little harder and you have to be a little 
> more careful...but I bled the master cylinder while it was 
> installed on my car. Whichever works for yah. :o)
>  
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Rick Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
>  Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 1:27 pm
>  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
>  
>  
>  The bleeding kit from the parts store works primo - and its 
> cheap.    Because the MC is mounted on an angle, I'd think 
> that its virtually impossible to bleed it correctly on the 
> car.   I'd mount the MC in a vise & do it.
>  
>  
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:10 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:
>  Thanks Dan, you have also provided me other info before and 
> I surely appreciate it ALL   Thanks   Steve 
>  
>  
> 
>  
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Daniel Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
>  To: The Chevelle Mailing List  <mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net> >
>  Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:34 am
>  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
>  
>  
> You can also pickup a plastic set at the local auto parts 
> store. Got one a few months ago for 3 bucks. Comes with an 
> assortment of plastic nipples, a clip to hold them in the 
> reservoir and some hose.
>  
>  Godspeed, Dan Solomon
>  "It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize 
> you are in a hurry."
>  http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ 
> <http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/> 
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net <mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net> 
>  Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:30:33 -0500
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
>  
>  
> I always take extra line, screw them into the master 
> cylinder, then bend them up and into the reservoir, so that 
> the ends of these lines are submerged in the reservoir. Fill 
> up the master cylinder with fluid, making sure the ends of 
> the lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a vise, 
> and push on the piston part of it with a screwdriver. You'll 
> see bubbles come out from the lines...keep going and going 
> and going and going(haha) untill no more air comes out. You 
> could do this on the car also...which is what I did. That way 
> you can just step on the brake pedal. But then you'd need 
> somebody else to tell you when the bubbles stop. 
>   
> Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask. 
>  
>  
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>  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net <mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net> 
>  Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 6:10 am
>  Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
>  
>  
> Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I 
> got the one with no bleeders on it. What is the process to 
> properly bench bleed it?  Thanks  Steve 
>  
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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

[Dale]

For some reason that just reads funny, Mike.  LOL
>
> Additionally, the master is not fully stroked when mounted, therefore
> cannot be bleed as well as on the bench.
> Mike




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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

[Mike Holleman]

Additionally, the master is not fully stroked when mounted, therefore cannot 
be bleed as well as on the bench.

Mike
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To: "Chevelle List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


I would go with the vice. Its my understanding that there is an area at the 
leading edge of the piston that can trap some air if not sitting level. In 
the car it is higher than the forward reservoir opening.


Godspeed,
Dan Solomon
It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
hurry.

http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:32:33
To:chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


The master cylinder works properly when driving, and its on an angle...so 
why wouldnt it work if you're just bleeding it? Granted, it's a little 
harder and you have to be a little more careful...but I bled the master 
cylinder while it was installed on my car. Whichever works for yah. :o)



-Original Message-
From: Rick Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 1:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


The bleeding kit from the parts store works primo - and its cheap. Because 
the MC is mounted on an angle, I'd think that its virtually impossible to 
bleed it correctly on the car. I'd mount the MC in a vise & do it.



On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:10 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:
Thanks Dan, you have also provided me other info before and I surely 
appreciate it ALL Thanks Steve






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To: The Chevelle Mailing List <mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net> >

Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:34 am
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


You can also pickup a plastic set at the local auto parts store. Got one a 
few months ago for 3 bucks. Comes with an assortment of plastic nipples, a 
clip to hold them in the reservoir and some hose.


Godspeed, Dan Solomon
"It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
hurry."
http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ 
<http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/>








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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:30:33 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


I always take extra line, screw them into the master cylinder, then bend 
them up and into the reservoir, so that the ends of these lines are 
submerged in the reservoir. Fill up the master cylinder with fluid, making 
sure the ends of the lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a 
vise, and push on the piston part of it with a screwdriver. You'll see 
bubbles come out from the lines...keep going and going and going and 
going(haha) untill no more air comes out. You could do this on the car 
also...which is what I did. That way you can just step on the brake pedal. 
But then you'd need somebody else to tell you when the bubbles stop.


Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask.


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Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 6:10 am
Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I got the one 
with no bleeders on it. What is the process to properly bench bleed it? 
Thanks Steve



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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

[dansolomon]

I would go with the vice. Its my understanding that there is an area at the 
leading edge of the piston that can trap some air if not sitting level. In the 
car it is higher than the forward reservoir opening.

Godspeed,
Dan Solomon
It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry.
http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:32:33 
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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


The master cylinder works properly when driving, and its on an angle...so why 
wouldnt it work if you're just bleeding it? Granted, it's a little harder and 
you have to be a little more careful...but I bled the master cylinder while it 
was installed on my car. Whichever works for yah. :o)
 
 
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 From: Rick Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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 Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 1:27 pm
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
 
 
 The bleeding kit from the parts store works primo - and its cheap.    Because 
the MC is mounted on an angle, I'd think that its virtually impossible to bleed 
it correctly on the car.   I'd mount the MC in a vise & do it.
 
 
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:10 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
 Thanks Dan, you have also provided me other info before and I surely 
appreciate it ALL   Thanks   Steve 
 
 

 
 
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 From: Daniel Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
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 Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:34 am
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
 
 
You can also pickup a plastic set at the local auto parts store. Got one a few 
months ago for 3 bucks. Comes with an assortment of plastic nipples, a clip to 
hold them in the reservoir and some hose.
 
 Godspeed, Dan Solomon
 "It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry."
 http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ 
<http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/> 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:30:33 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
 
 
I always take extra line, screw them into the master cylinder, then bend them 
up and into the reservoir, so that the ends of these lines are submerged in the 
reservoir. Fill up the master cylinder with fluid, making sure the ends of the 
lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a vise, and push on the piston 
part of it with a screwdriver. You'll see bubbles come out from the 
lines...keep going and going and going and going(haha) untill no more air comes 
out. You could do this on the car also...which is what I did. That way you can 
just step on the brake pedal. But then you'd need somebody else to tell you 
when the bubbles stop. 
  
Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask. 
 
 
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 Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 6:10 am
 Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
 
 
Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I got the one with no 
bleeders on it. What is the process to properly bench bleed it?  Thanks  Steve 
 

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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

[bad66chevelle454]

The master cylinder works properly when driving, and its on an angle...so why 
wouldnt it work if you're just bleeding it? Granted, it's a little harder and 
you have to be a little more careful...but I bled the master cylinder while it 
was installed on my car. Whichever works for yah. :o)


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From: Rick Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 1:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


?The bleeding kit from the parts store works primo - and its cheap.??? Because 
the MC is mounted on an angle, I'd think that its virtually impossible to bleed 
it correctly on the car.?? I'd mount the MC in a vise & do it.


On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:10 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks Dan, you have also provided me other info before and I surely appreciate 
it ALL?? Thanks?? Steve 






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From: Daniel Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:34 am
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


You can also pickup a plastic set at the local auto parts store. Got one a few 
months ago for 3 bucks. Comes with an assortment of plastic nipples, a clip to 
hold them in the reservoir and some hose.

Godspeed, Dan Solomon
"It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry."
http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/






To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:30:33 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


I always take extra line, screw them into the master cylinder, then bend them 
up and into the reservoir, so that the ends of these lines are submerged in the 
reservoir. Fill up the master cylinder with fluid, making sure the ends of the 
lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a vise, and push on the piston 
part of it with a screwdriver. You'll see bubbles come out from the 
lines...keep going and going and going and going(haha) untill no more air comes 
out. You could do this on the car also...which is what I did. That way you can 
just step on the brake pedal. But then you'd need somebody else to tell you 
when the bubbles stop. 

?

Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask. 


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Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding



Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I got the one with no 
bleeders on it. What is the process to properly bench bleed it?? Thanks? Steve 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

[Rick Schaefer]

 The bleeding kit from the parts store works primo - and its cheap.
Because the MC is mounted on an angle, I'd think that its virtually
impossible to bleed it correctly on the car.   I'd mount the MC in a vise &
do it.

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:10 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks Dan, you have also provided me other info before and I surely
> appreciate it ALL   Thanks   Steve
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
> Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:34 am
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
>
> You can also pickup a plastic set at the local auto parts store. Got one a
> few months ago for 3 bucks. Comes with an assortment of plastic nipples, a
> clip to hold them in the reservoir and some hose.
>
> Godspeed, Dan Solomon
> "It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a
> hurry."
> http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
>
>
>
>
>
>  --
> To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:30:33 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
>
> I always take extra line, screw them into the master cylinder, then bend
> them up and into the reservoir, so that the ends of these lines are
> submerged in the reservoir. Fill up the master cylinder with fluid, making
> sure the ends of the lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a vise,
> and push on the piston part of it with a screwdriver. You'll see bubbles
> come out from the lines...keep going and going and going and going(haha)
> untill no more air comes out. You could do this on the car also...which is
> what I did. That way you can just step on the brake pedal. But then you'd
> need somebody else to tell you when the bubbles stop.
>
> Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask.
>
>
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> To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 6:10 am
> Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
>
> Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I got the one
> with no bleeders on it. What is the process to properly bench bleed it?
> Thanks  Steve
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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

[ss454hillman]

Thanks Dan, you have also provided me other info before and I surely appreciate 
it ALL?? Thanks?? Steve


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Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:34 am
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


You can also pickup a plastic set at the local auto parts store. Got one a few 
months ago for 3 bucks. Comes with an assortment of plastic nipples, a clip to 
hold them in the reservoir and some hose.

Godspeed, Dan Solomon
"It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry."
http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/






To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:30:33 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding


I always take extra line, screw them into the master cylinder, then bend them 
up and into the reservoir, so that the ends of these lines are submerged in the 
reservoir. Fill up the master cylinder with fluid, making sure the ends of the 
lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a vise, and push on the piston 
part of it with a screwdriver. You'll see bubbles come out from the 
lines...keep going and going and going and going(haha) untill no more air comes 
out. You could do this on the car also...which is what I did. That way you can 
just step on the brake pedal. But then you'd need somebody else to tell you 
when the bubbles stop. 

?

Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask. 


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Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 6:10 am
Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding



Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I got the one with no 
bleeders on it. What is the process to properly bench bleed it?? Thanks? Steve 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

[Jim Sullivan]

Thanks bad66.  I will also be needing this shortly.
Jim

Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

[Daniel Solomon]

You can also pickup a plastic set at the local auto parts store. Got one a few 
months ago for 3 bucks. Comes with an assortment of plastic nipples, a clip to 
hold them in the reservoir and some hose.Godspeed, Dan Solomon"It is a mistake 
to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a 
hurry."http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:30:33 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
I always take extra line, screw them into the master cylinder, then bend them 
up and into the reservoir, so that the ends of these lines are submerged in the 
reservoir. Fill up the master cylinder with fluid, making sure the ends of the 
lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a vise, and push on the piston 
part of it with a screwdriver. You'll see bubbles come out from the 
lines...keep going and going and going and going(haha) untill no more air comes 
out. You could do this on the car also...which is what I did. That way you can 
just step on the brake pedal. But then you'd need somebody else to tell you 
when the bubbles stop. 
 
Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask. 
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Feb 2008 6:10 amSubject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding
Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I got the one with no 
bleeders on it. What is the process to properly bench bleed it?  Thanks  Steve 


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Re: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

[bad66chevelle454]

I always take extra line, screw them into the master cylinder, then bend them 
up and into the reservoir, so that the ends of these lines are submerged in the 
reservoir. Fill up the master cylinder with fluid, making sure the ends of the 
lines are submerged. Put the master cylinder in a vise, and push on the piston 
part of it with a screwdriver. You'll see bubbles come out from the 
lines...keep going and going and going and going(haha) untill no more air comes 
out. You could do this on the car also...which is what I did. That way you can 
just step on the brake pedal. But then you'd need somebody else to tell you 
when the bubbles stop. 



Pretty easy to do really. If you have any more questions just ask. 


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Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 6:10 am
Subject: [Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding



Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I got the one with no 
bleeders on it. What is the process to properly bench bleed it?? Thanks? Steve
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[Chevelle-list] master cylinder bench bleeding

[ss454hillman]

Hi guys I had to replace a master cylinder on the 70 and I got the one with no 
bleeders on it. What is the process to properly bench bleed it?? Thanks? Steve

Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

[Rick Schaefer]

  Sounds like a plan.  Hope that it works out for you.

On 11/5/07, Peter Hnat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  It is a power assisted master cylinder. I've talk to several members of
> the car club I belong to and they take their cars to a local repair shop for
> work. They are extremely satisfied with their work and said that would be
> the place to go. They are also into muscle cars big time. So that being said
> ,I'm going to have the car towed over there and have them fix the problem. I
> already spoke to the mechanic and he is looking for a new master cylinder
> and not a rebuilt one. I'm also going to have him flush the brake lines and
> put in freash brake fluid.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pete Hnat
>
> '69 Chevelle SS
>
> Apex, NC
>
>
>
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *mike f
> *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 12:30 PM
> *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder
>
>
>
> Is this a power assisted brake master cylinder?
>
>
>
> mike
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Rick Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
> Sent: Monday, November 5, 2007 11:24:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder
>
>   Agree with Dan, that some rebuilders do a better job than others.   But
> also, while you have it apart, check that your parts are compatible.   The
> only thing that I can think of would be a mismatch between the push rod &
> M/C.   And I don't think that it would go together with incorrect
> partsbut it might.   Also are you using the correct push rod hole in the
> brake pedal assembly? There might also be other things that could effect
> longevity.
>
> On 11/5/07, *Daniel Solomon* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I installed one on my car during the restoration process that went bad
> before I even had a chance to drive the car. It really threw me because you
> expect a new part to work. I would try a different brand. Maybe one of the
> companies out there is doing a better rebuild job than the rest.
>
> Make sure you bench bleed the MC before you install it.
>
>
>
> Godspeed,
> Dan Solomon
> It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a
> hurry
> http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
>
>
>  - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Peter Hnat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> *To:* chevelle-list@chevelles.net
>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 10:57 AM
>
> *Subject:* [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder
>
>
>
>
>
> Looking  for some advice/help regarding the master cylinder on my
> Chevelle. I've had the car for three years now and have gone thru 3
> master cylinders in that time. The original one lasted about a month
> after I bought the car. The replacement one lasted about 10 months. The
> replacement for the replacement lasted about a year and half. It is a
> little nerve wracking taking the car out for a drive on a Sunday and
> wondering if the brakes will fail!! Any advice will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
> Pete Hnat
> Apex, NC
> '69 Chevelle SS
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

[Peter Hnat]

It is a power assisted master cylinder. I've talk to several members of
the car club I belong to and they take their cars to a local repair shop
for work. They are extremely satisfied with their work and said that
would be the place to go. They are also into muscle cars big time. So
that being said ,I'm going to have the car towed over there and have
them fix the problem. I already spoke to the mechanic and he is looking
for a new master cylinder and not a rebuilt one. I'm also going to have
him flush the brake lines and put in freash brake fluid.

 

Thanks,

Pete Hnat

'69 Chevelle SS

Apex, NC

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike f
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:30 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

 

Is this a power assisted brake master cylinder? 

 

mike

 

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From: Rick Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2007 11:24:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

  Agree with Dan, that some rebuilders do a better job than others.
But also, while you have it apart, check that your parts are compatible.
The only thing that I can think of would be a mismatch between the push
rod & M/C.   And I don't think that it would go together with incorrect
partsbut it might.   Also are you using the correct push rod hole in
the brake pedal assembly? There might also be other things that
could effect longevity. 

On 11/5/07, Daniel Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I installed one on my car during the restoration process that went bad
before I even had a chance to drive the car. It really threw me because
you expect a new part to work. I would try a different brand. Maybe one
of the companies out there is doing a better rebuild job than the rest. 

Make sure you bench bleed the MC before you install it.

 

Godspeed,
Dan Solomon
It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a
hurry
http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
 

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From: Peter Hnat <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 

Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:57 AM

    Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder


 


Looking  for some advice/help regarding the master cylinder on
my
Chevelle. I've had the car for three years now and have gone
thru 3
master cylinders in that time. The original one lasted about a
month 
after I bought the car. The replacement one lasted about 10
months. The
replacement for the replacement lasted about a year and half. It
is a
little nerve wracking taking the car out for a drive on a Sunday
and
wondering if the brakes will fail!! Any advice will be greatly
appreciated.


Pete Hnat
Apex, NC
'69 Chevelle SS




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Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

[Johann Grobler]

Hullo All,

Many years ago I had a similar problem with the master cylinder and found that 
the rod from the pedal to the MC was bent causing the piston assembly to move 
out of line scouring the seals.  Perhaps?

Johann Grobler
In Darkest Afrika
  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Solomon 
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder


  I installed one on my car during the restoration process that went bad before 
I even had a chance to drive the car. It really threw me because you expect a 
new part to work. I would try a different brand. Maybe one of the companies out 
there is doing a better rebuild job than the rest.
  Make sure you bench bleed the MC before you install it.

  Godspeed,
  Dan Solomon
  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry
  http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Hnat 
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:57 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder



Looking  for some advice/help regarding the master cylinder on my
Chevelle. I've had the car for three years now and have gone thru 3
master cylinders in that time. The original one lasted about a month
after I bought the car. The replacement one lasted about 10 months. The
replacement for the replacement lasted about a year and half. It is a
little nerve wracking taking the car out for a drive on a Sunday and
wondering if the brakes will fail!! Any advice will be greatly
appreciated.


Pete Hnat
Apex, NC
'69 Chevelle SS

Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

[mike f]

Is this a power assisted brake master cylinder? 

mike



- Original Message 
From: Rick Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2007 11:24:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

  Agree with Dan, that some rebuilders do a better job than others.   But also, 
while you have it apart, check that your parts are compatible.   The only thing 
that I can think of would be a mismatch between the push rod & M/C.   And I 
don't think that it would go together with incorrect partsbut it might.   
Also are you using the correct push rod hole in the brake pedal assembly? 
There might also be other things that could effect longevity. 


On 11/5/07, Daniel Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
I installed one on my car during the restoration process that went bad before I 
even had a chance to drive the car. It really threw me because you expect a new 
part to work. I would try a different brand. Maybe one of the companies out 
there is doing a better rebuild job than the rest. 
Make sure you bench bleed the MC before you install it.
 
Godspeed,
Dan Solomon
It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry
http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
 
- Original Message - 
From: Peter Hnat 
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:57 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

 

Looking  for some advice/help regarding the master cylinder on my
Chevelle. I've had the car for three years now and have gone thru 3
master cylinders in that time. The original one lasted about a month 
after I bought the car. The replacement one lasted about 10 months. The
replacement for the replacement lasted about a year and half. It is a
little nerve wracking taking the car out for a drive on a Sunday and
wondering if the brakes will fail!! Any advice will be greatly
appreciated.


Pete Hnat
Apex, NC
'69 Chevelle SS





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Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

[Rick Schaefer]

  Agree with Dan, that some rebuilders do a better job than others.   But
also, while you have it apart, check that your parts are compatible.   The
only thing that I can think of would be a mismatch between the push rod &
M/C.   And I don't think that it would go together with incorrect
partsbut it might.   Also are you using the correct push rod hole in the
brake pedal assembly? There might also be other things that could effect
longevity.

On 11/5/07, Daniel Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  I installed one on my car during the restoration process that went bad
> before I even had a chance to drive the car. It really threw me because you
> expect a new part to work. I would try a different brand. Maybe one of the
> companies out there is doing a better rebuild job than the rest.
> Make sure you bench bleed the MC before you install it.
>
> Godspeed,
> Dan Solomon
> It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a
> hurry
> http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Peter Hnat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 10:57 AM
> *Subject:* [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder
>
>
>
> Looking  for some advice/help regarding the master cylinder on my
> Chevelle. I've had the car for three years now and have gone thru 3
> master cylinders in that time. The original one lasted about a month
> after I bought the car. The replacement one lasted about 10 months. The
> replacement for the replacement lasted about a year and half. It is a
> little nerve wracking taking the car out for a drive on a Sunday and
> wondering if the brakes will fail!! Any advice will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
> Pete Hnat
> Apex, NC
> '69 Chevelle SS
>
>


-- 
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72 TPI El Camino

Re: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

[Daniel Solomon]

I installed one on my car during the restoration process that went bad before I 
even had a chance to drive the car. It really threw me because you expect a new 
part to work. I would try a different brand. Maybe one of the companies out 
there is doing a better rebuild job than the rest.
Make sure you bench bleed the MC before you install it.

Godspeed,
Dan Solomon
It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry
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  From: Peter Hnat<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net<mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net> 
  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:57 AM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder



  Looking  for some advice/help regarding the master cylinder on my
  Chevelle. I've had the car for three years now and have gone thru 3
  master cylinders in that time. The original one lasted about a month
  after I bought the car. The replacement one lasted about 10 months. The
  replacement for the replacement lasted about a year and half. It is a
  little nerve wracking taking the car out for a drive on a Sunday and
  wondering if the brakes will fail!! Any advice will be greatly
  appreciated.


  Pete Hnat
  Apex, NC
  '69 Chevelle SS

[Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder

[Peter Hnat]

Looking  for some advice/help regarding the master cylinder on my
Chevelle. I've had the car for three years now and have gone thru 3
master cylinders in that time. The original one lasted about a month
after I bought the car. The replacement one lasted about 10 months. The
replacement for the replacement lasted about a year and half. It is a
little nerve wracking taking the car out for a drive on a Sunday and
wondering if the brakes will fail!! Any advice will be greatly
appreciated.


Pete Hnat
Apex, NC
'69 Chevelle SS

Re: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder diaphragm

[Johnny Palmer]

I make sure that mine are flat across I just did mine too and it was 
dropped a bit..Topped up the fluid and reset the diaphram...
John
66 malibu ss

[Chevelle-list] Master cylinder diaphragm

[66chevelless396]

Out of good habit, I check the brake fluid level before each year’s first ride. 
 I have a single brake cylinder and when I pulled the cover off a small portion 
of the center section (smallest out of the multiple circle sections) was 
dropped down.  The diaphragm has no leaks and fluid level was still at the 1/8” 
from the top recommended level.  I want to verify that upon reinstalling the 
all the circle sections are supposed to be flat across and not dropped down at 
all.
 
Thank you,
 
Krister Meister
 
’66 SS #’s 

[Chevelle-list] Master Cylinder '69 Chevelle

[Peter Hnat]

   Had my Chevelle towed in on Saturday to the repair shop and I heard from 
them yesterday. They checked the brake system over and said it was the master 
cylinder . A new has been ordered and is on the way from Napa in California. 
The service tech said none of the part houses in the area have the master 
cylinder in stock.This one will be a new one againthey said this M.C. was 
probably sitting one the shelve a long time causing the seals to dry up. They 
are confident this M.C. will be better (fresher) because there is a higher turn 
over of these parts in California .I'm glad this is still under the warrenty 
and won't cost me anything ! Thanks to all for the help with the recent brake 
problem,hopefully this will be last time the M.C. has to be replaced!



 Pete Hnat

Re: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

[Bill Bradley]

and i thought there was an easy way, nope not around here, good luck and let 
us know how it turns out.

Bill Bradley
67 Malibu
Edmond Oklahoma
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/1649723

- Original Message - 
From: "Fred Dowaliby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment



Thanks Brian and Ron

This is consistent with everything I've found out about OE master 
cylinders. FYI, however, mine is an aftermarket part and SSBC, who 
manufactured it, verified to me via phone this am that front was front and 
rear was rear. The reservoirs and ports are the same size. As far as I can 
tell the location ( and hence sequencing/timing) of the pistons in the 
bore does however vary. I'm actually relieved as my brakes were doing 
weird things, even though this means I will need to run new lines as each 
takes a different size fitting. I know I could have used an adapter but I 
like doing this stuff the hard way.


Thanks again,

Fred


On Jul 12, 2005, at 11:59 PM, Ron Sparks wrote:

I'm in the process of running the lines from my Baer master and it is 
just

as Brian states as far as the front being the back port, rear the front
port, and, the port size is larger in the rear. That being said, the Baer
instructions state that the port size my switch from application to
application, so they included adapters. The one thing they maintain is 
the

which line goes where (front to rear; rear to front).

Also note, that I'm putting an entirely new brake system on the car. The
original master was a single reservoir unit.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Knight
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:56 PM
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

On factory style master cylinders, the smaller port is for the rear 
brakes,
the larger port is for the front brakes. Usually the smaller port is 
toward

the front of the car even though it operates the rear brakes. The size is
the main factor, larger for the front system, smaller for the rear.

  Brian


From: Fred Dowaliby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:23:53 -0400

Hi Folks,

Here's a no brainer I assume for most of you.

Is there a standard assignment for brake ports out of the master 
cylinder?

I just found that I had it backwards for one of my cars (after
consulting with SSBC)  and so I am in the process of correcting it.
According to SSBC (and logically, I guess) the front port is for the
front brakes and the rear for the rear. No simple matter, as different 
size

fittings are used.

Rather than use adapters I opted  to replace the lines with new ones
with the proper fittings.

Now I am wondering whether my other car, which is similarly hooked up
with the front port for the rear brakes, and the rear for the front, is
backwards and should be likewise switched.

I am looking forward to a hugh improvement in braking and, though my
second car stops well, if I can improve the brakes with a couple of
lines and a little time, why not?

Thanks again for your help,

Fred Dowaliby




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Re: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

[Fred Dowaliby]

Thanks Brian and Ron

This is consistent with everything I've found out about OE master 
cylinders. FYI, however, mine is an aftermarket part and SSBC, who 
manufactured it, verified to me via phone this am that front was front 
and rear was rear. The reservoirs and ports are the same size. As far 
as I can tell the location ( and hence sequencing/timing) of the 
pistons in the bore does however vary. I'm actually relieved as my 
brakes were doing weird things, even though this means I will need to 
run new lines as each takes a different size fitting. I know I could 
have used an adapter but I like doing this stuff the hard way.


Thanks again,

Fred


On Jul 12, 2005, at 11:59 PM, Ron Sparks wrote:

I'm in the process of running the lines from my Baer master and it is 
just

as Brian states as far as the front being the back port, rear the front
port, and, the port size is larger in the rear. That being said, the 
Baer

instructions state that the port size my switch from application to
application, so they included adapters. The one thing they maintain is 
the

which line goes where (front to rear; rear to front).

Also note, that I'm putting an entirely new brake system on the car. 
The

original master was a single reservoir unit.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Knight
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:56 PM
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

On factory style master cylinders, the smaller port is for the rear 
brakes,
the larger port is for the front brakes. Usually the smaller port is 
toward
the front of the car even though it operates the rear brakes. The size 
is

the main factor, larger for the front system, smaller for the rear.

  Brian


From: Fred Dowaliby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:23:53 -0400

Hi Folks,

Here's a no brainer I assume for most of you.

Is there a standard assignment for brake ports out of the master 
cylinder?

I just found that I had it backwards for one of my cars (after
consulting with SSBC)  and so I am in the process of correcting it.
According to SSBC (and logically, I guess) the front port is for the
front brakes and the rear for the rear. No simple matter, as 
different size

fittings are used.

Rather than use adapters I opted  to replace the lines with new ones
with the proper fittings.

Now I am wondering whether my other car, which is similarly hooked up
with the front port for the rear brakes, and the rear for the front, 
is

backwards and should be likewise switched.

I am looking forward to a hugh improvement in braking and, though my
second car stops well, if I can improve the brakes with a couple of
lines and a little time, why not?

Thanks again for your help,

Fred Dowaliby




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RE: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

[Ron Sparks]

I'm in the process of running the lines from my Baer master and it is just
as Brian states as far as the front being the back port, rear the front
port, and, the port size is larger in the rear. That being said, the Baer
instructions state that the port size my switch from application to
application, so they included adapters. The one thing they maintain is the
which line goes where (front to rear; rear to front). 

Also note, that I'm putting an entirely new brake system on the car. The
original master was a single reservoir unit. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Knight
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:56 PM
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

On factory style master cylinders, the smaller port is for the rear brakes,
the larger port is for the front brakes. Usually the smaller port is toward
the front of the car even though it operates the rear brakes. The size is
the main factor, larger for the front system, smaller for the rear.

  Brian

>From: Fred Dowaliby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
>To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
>Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment
>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:23:53 -0400
>
>Hi Folks,
>
>Here's a no brainer I assume for most of you.
>
>Is there a standard assignment for brake ports out of the master cylinder? 
>I just found that I had it backwards for one of my cars (after 
>consulting with SSBC)  and so I am in the process of correcting it. 
>According to SSBC (and logically, I guess) the front port is for the 
>front brakes and the rear for the rear. No simple matter, as different size
fittings are used.
>Rather than use adapters I opted  to replace the lines with new ones 
>with the proper fittings.
>
>Now I am wondering whether my other car, which is similarly hooked up 
>with the front port for the rear brakes, and the rear for the front, is 
>backwards and should be likewise switched.
>
>I am looking forward to a hugh improvement in braking and, though my 
>second car stops well, if I can improve the brakes with a couple of 
>lines and a little time, why not?
>
>Thanks again for your help,
>
>Fred Dowaliby
>
>

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RE: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

[Brian Knight]

On factory style master cylinders, the smaller port is for the rear brakes, 
the larger port is for the front brakes. Usually the smaller port is toward 
the front of the car even though it operates the rear brakes. The size is 
the main factor, larger for the front system, smaller for the rear.


 Brian


From: Fred Dowaliby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:23:53 -0400

Hi Folks,

Here's a no brainer I assume for most of you.

Is there a standard assignment for brake ports out of the master cylinder? 
I just found that I had it backwards for one of my cars (after consulting 
with SSBC)  and so I am in the process of correcting it. According to SSBC 
(and logically, I guess) the front port is for the front brakes and the 
rear for the rear. No simple matter, as different size fittings are used. 
Rather than use adapters I opted  to replace the lines with new ones with 
the proper fittings.


Now I am wondering whether my other car, which is similarly hooked up with 
the front port for the rear brakes, and the rear for the front, is 
backwards and should be likewise switched.


I am looking forward to a hugh improvement in braking and, though my second 
car stops well, if I can improve the brakes with a couple of lines and a 
little time, why not?


Thanks again for your help,

Fred Dowaliby




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[Chevelle-list] Master cylinder port assignment

[Fred Dowaliby]

Hi Folks,

Here's a no brainer I assume for most of you.

Is there a standard assignment for brake ports out of the master 
cylinder? I just found that I had it backwards for one of my cars 
(after consulting with SSBC)  and so I am in the process of correcting 
it. According to SSBC (and logically, I guess) the front port is for 
the front brakes and the rear for the rear. No simple matter, as 
different size fittings are used. Rather than use adapters I opted  to 
replace the lines with new ones with the proper fittings.


Now I am wondering whether my other car, which is similarly hooked up 
with the front port for the rear brakes, and the rear for the front, is 
backwards and should be likewise switched.


I am looking forward to a hugh improvement in braking and, though my 
second car stops well, if I can improve the brakes with a couple of 
lines and a little time, why not?


Thanks again for your help,

Fred Dowaliby

[Chevelle-list] Master cylinder question, Dale Mc??

[Bill Lessenberry]

I'm trying to find the correct brake master cylinder casting #  and part # 
for a disc brake equipped 67 or 68 Chevelle.  The assembly manual shows a 
part # 5463779, but the picture isn't very clear and I can't tell if it's 
for the booster, master cylinder, or both as an assembly.  At first I 
thought the casting # was 5468309, but then a vendor at CB05 told me that I 
was incorrect.  I also believe that the cylinder is stamped "EA".  Can any 
of ya'll shed any light on this.  Thanks,


BillL

RE: [Chevelle-List] master cylinder

[John Nasta]

Keep the dual if you are planning to drive the car. It may save your life
one day.

John Nasta



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Thanks Jason and Wayne for the info. It seems I learn something new everyday
on this site.
Vernon
64 El Camino



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[vmckague]

Thanks Jason and Wayne for the info. It seems I learn something new everyday
on this site.
Vernon
64 El Camino
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From: "Wayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] master cylinder


> ALL 64 Chevelles and GM  cars came with a single
> master cylinder. Theu changed to dual in 1967..
>
> Wayne
> ACES 1556
> TCG 186
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>
>
> > I believe it depended on your brake options. If you have drum brakes
then
> > you didn't need a dual master cylinder.
> >
> > Jason Boivin
> >
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[Wayne]

ALL 64 Chevelles and GM  cars came with a single
master cylinder. Theu changed to dual in 1967..

Wayne
ACES 1556
TCG 186
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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 9:00 PM
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> I believe it depended on your brake options. If you have drum brakes then
> you didn't need a dual master cylinder.
> 
> Jason Boivin
> 
> http://home.wizard.org/twchevelle/
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[Jason Boivin]

I believe it depended on your brake options. If you have drum brakes then
you didn't need a dual master cylinder.

Jason Boivin

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[vmckague]

Did the 64 el camino come with a single 
or a dual master cylinder? Mine has a dual but I saw one on ebay that said 
it was for a 64 and it was a single. Any ideas? Thanks, 
Vernon
 

Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement

[GLENN BAILEY]

Metallic linings are a rare bird, and most have long since been refitted to 
organic.  The metallic lining uses a series of 4 (IIRC) sintered iron pads 
on the brake shoe.  They use a lined drum to reduce the wear.  I believe the 
MC bore is a different size because you needed more force to stop the 
sucker, especially when the shoes were cold.  If your brake shoes look like 
a normal shoe, you have the exc. HD metallic.  That would be my guess.  I 
had a 66 many years ago with the OE metal, and it was a two footed stop on a 
cold morning.
Glenn






From: "gm2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 04:43:41 -0600

Thanks for the site.  It has a lot of good info.  Now can anyone tell me
what the difference is between heavy duty
 brakes w/metallic linings and non-heavy duty brakes with metallic 
linings.
How can I spot the difference on my car?



- Original Message -
From: "Richard Milkiewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement


> The single reservoir you have sounds original. I suggest going to a duel
> reservoir and a power brake booster. If your single fails your out of
luck.
> With the duel you'll at least have one set of brakes. Front or back.
Depends
> on what circuit goes out. Try this site.
> http://www.hotrodssuperstore.com/maspowbrak.html
>
> Rich
> "66 Malibu
> ACES # 5066
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:25 PM
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I went to back my 64 Chevelle out on Saturday and noticed that I had 
no
> brakes left.  What little fluid was left in the master cylinder had 
leaked
> out and it was now empty.  Good thing the emergency brake still worked.
> >
> > Would I be better off replacing the whole master cylinder or should I
try
> a re-build kit?  My current master cylinder has the screw on cap while 
the
> replacements seem to have the clip that goes over the cover.  Which one 
is
> correct for a restoration?
> >
> > Napa auto parts lists 2 types of master cylinders. One is for heavy 
duty
> brakes w/metalic linings and the other is for non-heavy duty brakes with
> metalic linings. What is the difference and how can I tell what is on my
> car?  I have 4 wheel drum brakes.
> >
> > Napa also has the power booster for the brakes (87.00) which I would
also
> like to add.  It doesn't look like the AC/Delco ones in the Chevelle
> catalogs that go for about $230.00.  What is involved in adding this to
the
> car?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
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[Dan McIntosh]

Gary,
Does it have something to do with the drum diameter. I remember when I
rebuilt the front brakes on the 65, I kept getting asked the drum diameter.
Worth a shot.

Dan McIntosh
64 Impala SS
www.alloldchevy.com

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From: "gm2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement


> Thanks for the site.  It has a lot of good info.  Now can anyone tell me
> what the difference is between heavy duty
>  brakes w/metallic linings and non-heavy duty brakes with metallic
linings.
> How can I spot the difference on my car?
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Richard Milkiewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement
>
>
> > The single reservoir you have sounds original. I suggest going to a duel
> > reservoir and a power brake booster. If your single fails your out of
> luck.
> > With the duel you'll at least have one set of brakes. Front or back.
> Depends
> > on what circuit goes out. Try this site.
> > http://www.hotrodssuperstore.com/maspowbrak.html
> >
> > Rich
> > "66 Malibu
> > ACES # 5066
> > ----- Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:25 PM
> > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I went to back my 64 Chevelle out on Saturday and noticed that I had
no
> > brakes left.  What little fluid was left in the master cylinder had
leaked
> > out and it was now empty.  Good thing the emergency brake still worked.
> > >
> > > Would I be better off replacing the whole master cylinder or should I
> try
> > a re-build kit?  My current master cylinder has the screw on cap while
the
> > replacements seem to have the clip that goes over the cover.  Which one
is
> > correct for a restoration?
> > >
> > > Napa auto parts lists 2 types of master cylinders. One is for heavy
duty
> > brakes w/metalic linings and the other is for non-heavy duty brakes with
> > metalic linings. What is the difference and how can I tell what is on my
> > car?  I have 4 wheel drum brakes.
> > >
> > > Napa also has the power booster for the brakes (87.00) which I would
> also
> > like to add.  It doesn't look like the AC/Delco ones in the Chevelle
> > catalogs that go for about $230.00.  What is involved in adding this to
> the
> > car?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
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[gm2]

Thanks for the site.  It has a lot of good info.  Now can anyone tell me
what the difference is between heavy duty
 brakes w/metallic linings and non-heavy duty brakes with metallic linings.
How can I spot the difference on my car?



- Original Message -
From: "Richard Milkiewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement


> The single reservoir you have sounds original. I suggest going to a duel
> reservoir and a power brake booster. If your single fails your out of
luck.
> With the duel you'll at least have one set of brakes. Front or back.
Depends
> on what circuit goes out. Try this site.
> http://www.hotrodssuperstore.com/maspowbrak.html
>
> Rich
> "66 Malibu
> ACES # 5066
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:25 PM
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I went to back my 64 Chevelle out on Saturday and noticed that I had no
> brakes left.  What little fluid was left in the master cylinder had leaked
> out and it was now empty.  Good thing the emergency brake still worked.
> >
> > Would I be better off replacing the whole master cylinder or should I
try
> a re-build kit?  My current master cylinder has the screw on cap while the
> replacements seem to have the clip that goes over the cover.  Which one is
> correct for a restoration?
> >
> > Napa auto parts lists 2 types of master cylinders. One is for heavy duty
> brakes w/metalic linings and the other is for non-heavy duty brakes with
> metalic linings. What is the difference and how can I tell what is on my
> car?  I have 4 wheel drum brakes.
> >
> > Napa also has the power booster for the brakes (87.00) which I would
also
> like to add.  It doesn't look like the AC/Delco ones in the Chevelle
> catalogs that go for about $230.00.  What is involved in adding this to
the
> car?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gary
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder replacement

[Richard Milkiewicz]

The single reservoir you have sounds original. I suggest going to a duel
reservoir and a power brake booster. If your single fails your out of luck.
With the duel you'll at least have one set of brakes. Front or back. Depends
on what circuit goes out. Try this site.
http://www.hotrodssuperstore.com/maspowbrak.html

Rich
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> Hi,
>
> I went to back my 64 Chevelle out on Saturday and noticed that I had no
brakes left.  What little fluid was left in the master cylinder had leaked
out and it was now empty.  Good thing the emergency brake still worked.
>
> Would I be better off replacing the whole master cylinder or should I try
a re-build kit?  My current master cylinder has the screw on cap while the
replacements seem to have the clip that goes over the cover.  Which one is
correct for a restoration?
>
> Napa auto parts lists 2 types of master cylinders. One is for heavy duty
brakes w/metalic linings and the other is for non-heavy duty brakes with
metalic linings. What is the difference and how can I tell what is on my
car?  I have 4 wheel drum brakes.
>
> Napa also has the power booster for the brakes (87.00) which I would also
like to add.  It doesn't look like the AC/Delco ones in the Chevelle
catalogs that go for about $230.00.  What is involved in adding this to the
car?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary
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[gm2]

Hi,

I went to back my 64 Chevelle out on Saturday and noticed that I had no brakes left.  
What little fluid was left in the master cylinder had leaked out and it was now empty. 
 Good thing the emergency brake still worked.

Would I be better off replacing the whole master cylinder or should I try a re-build 
kit?  My current master cylinder has the screw on cap while the replacements seem to 
have the clip that goes over the cover.  Which one is correct for a restoration?

Napa auto parts lists 2 types of master cylinders. One is for heavy duty brakes 
w/metalic linings and the other is for non-heavy duty brakes with metalic linings. 
What is the difference and how can I tell what is on my car?  I have 4 wheel drum 
brakes.

Napa also has the power booster for the brakes (87.00) which I would also like to add. 
 It doesn't look like the AC/Delco ones in the Chevelle catalogs that go for about 
$230.00.  What is involved in adding this to the car?

Thanks,

Gary


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RE: [Chevelle-List] master cylinder mania

[John Nasta]

I wasn't feeling challenged. Just stating the facts as I know them.

John Nasta



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[Michael Pell]

I wasn't challenging you.  :-)  was just curious.

John Nasta wrote:

> I really don't know. I am offering them on behalf of a friend who owns an
> auto parts store and he said that's what they sell for. In fact, he said
> that the wholesale cost on them was $115 each. I figured they might be good
> for somebody who is running a hot cam and wants manual brakes because they
> don't need vacuum to operate. The part #'s are there so feel free to check
> the prices elsewhere.
>
> John Nasta
>
> -Original Message-
>
> Just out of curiosity, why do these retail at $150, while a MC (brake
> right?)
> for my 69 Chevelle costs less than $30.00 at Autozone?
>
> Just doesn't add up
>
> John Nasta wrote:
>
> > A friend of mine has 4 master cylinders (all brand new), which
> > cross-reference to the following:
> >
> > Delco 18M500
> > Bendix 11639
> > Raybestos MC39946
> >
> > They fit the following vehicles with manual brakes:
> >
> > 73 El Camino Moraine type 4.1L, 5.0L, 5.7L (350CID), 7.4L (454 CID)
> >
> > 73-75 El Camino 5.7L (350CID), 7.4L (454 CID)
> >
> > 73-77 Cutlass Bendix type
> >
> > 74-76 El Camino 6.6L
> >
> > 75-76 Chevelle Malibu, Bendix type
> >
> > 75-76 Monte Carlo, Bendix type
> >
> > 76 El Camino 5.7L
> >
> > 77 Chevelle Bendix type V8 5.0L, 5.7L
> >
> > 77 El Camino 5.0L
> >
> > 77 Monte Carlo Bendix type 5.7L
> >
> > These normally retail for about $150 each. They are all brand new. Looking
> > for $75 each. Contact me privately if interested.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John Nasta
> >
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RE: [Chevelle-List] master cylinder mania

[John Nasta]

Makes sense to me. He did say that these are new. The reason he is offering
them cheap is because they are NOS, which means to him that they have been
taking up shelf space for a long time and he hasn't sold one in years. Of
course to one of us it might mean something completely different.

BTW he is going through all of the inventory and soon we will have pre-bent
exhaust pipes galore and tons of brake drums/rotors. His family owns 2
stores, one of which opened in 1929 and another that was originally a
Pontiac dealership until his dad bought the building in the 60s and
converted it to a parts store. To him these old parts are somewhat of a
nuisance because they are taking up space and he doesn't get any call for
them.

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Here in Canada, at least, rebuilt master cylinders are very much
cheaper than all-new models.  For example, I got a new one for $140,
where there rebuilt one was offered at $50.  The quality workmanship
of the rebuilt one was poor, and that of the new one was much better.

Dave.


>I really don't know. I am offering them on behalf of a friend who owns an
>auto parts store and he said that's what they sell for. In fact, he said
>that the wholesale cost on them was $115 each. I figured they might be good
>for somebody who is running a hot cam and wants manual brakes because they
>don't need vacuum to operate. The part #'s are there so feel free to check
>the prices elsewhere.
>
>John Nasta

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RE: [Chevelle-List] master cylinder mania

[the . cat]

Here in Canada, at least, rebuilt master cylinders are very much 
cheaper than all-new models.  For example, I got a new one for $140, 
where there rebuilt one was offered at $50.  The quality workmanship 
of the rebuilt one was poor, and that of the new one was much better.

Dave.


I really don't know. I am offering them on behalf of a friend who owns an
auto parts store and he said that's what they sell for. In fact, he said
that the wholesale cost on them was $115 each. I figured they might be good
for somebody who is running a hot cam and wants manual brakes because they
don't need vacuum to operate. The part #'s are there so feel free to check
the prices elsewhere.

John Nasta


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[John Nasta]

I really don't know. I am offering them on behalf of a friend who owns an
auto parts store and he said that's what they sell for. In fact, he said
that the wholesale cost on them was $115 each. I figured they might be good
for somebody who is running a hot cam and wants manual brakes because they
don't need vacuum to operate. The part #'s are there so feel free to check
the prices elsewhere.

John Nasta



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Just out of curiosity, why do these retail at $150, while a MC (brake
right?)
for my 69 Chevelle costs less than $30.00 at Autozone?

Just doesn't add up

John Nasta wrote:

> A friend of mine has 4 master cylinders (all brand new), which
> cross-reference to the following:
>
> Delco 18M500
> Bendix 11639
> Raybestos MC39946
>
> They fit the following vehicles with manual brakes:
>
> 73 El Camino Moraine type 4.1L, 5.0L, 5.7L (350CID), 7.4L (454 CID)
>
> 73-75 El Camino 5.7L (350CID), 7.4L (454 CID)
>
> 73-77 Cutlass Bendix type
>
> 74-76 El Camino 6.6L
>
> 75-76 Chevelle Malibu, Bendix type
>
> 75-76 Monte Carlo, Bendix type
>
> 76 El Camino 5.7L
>
> 77 Chevelle Bendix type V8 5.0L, 5.7L
>
> 77 El Camino 5.0L
>
> 77 Monte Carlo Bendix type 5.7L
>
> These normally retail for about $150 each. They are all brand new. Looking
> for $75 each. Contact me privately if interested.
>
> Thanks,
> John Nasta
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[Michael Pell]

Just out of curiosity, why do these retail at $150, while a MC (brake right?)
for my 69 Chevelle costs less than $30.00 at Autozone?

Just doesn't add up

John Nasta wrote:

> A friend of mine has 4 master cylinders (all brand new), which
> cross-reference to the following:
>
> Delco 18M500
> Bendix 11639
> Raybestos MC39946
>
> They fit the following vehicles with manual brakes:
>
> 73 El Camino Moraine type 4.1L, 5.0L, 5.7L (350CID), 7.4L (454 CID)
>
> 73-75 El Camino 5.7L (350CID), 7.4L (454 CID)
>
> 73-77 Cutlass Bendix type
>
> 74-76 El Camino 6.6L
>
> 75-76 Chevelle Malibu, Bendix type
>
> 75-76 Monte Carlo, Bendix type
>
> 76 El Camino 5.7L
>
> 77 Chevelle Bendix type V8 5.0L, 5.7L
>
> 77 El Camino 5.0L
>
> 77 Monte Carlo Bendix type 5.7L
>
> These normally retail for about $150 each. They are all brand new. Looking
> for $75 each. Contact me privately if interested.
>
> Thanks,
> John Nasta
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[John Nasta]

A friend of mine has 4 master cylinders (all brand new), which
cross-reference to the following:

Delco 18M500
Bendix 11639
Raybestos MC39946

They fit the following vehicles with manual brakes:

73 El Camino Moraine type 4.1L, 5.0L, 5.7L (350CID), 7.4L (454 CID)

73-75 El Camino 5.7L (350CID), 7.4L (454 CID)

73-77 Cutlass Bendix type

74-76 El Camino 6.6L

75-76 Chevelle Malibu, Bendix type

75-76 Monte Carlo, Bendix type

76 El Camino 5.7L

77 Chevelle Bendix type V8 5.0L, 5.7L

77 El Camino 5.0L

77 Monte Carlo Bendix type 5.7L


These normally retail for about $150 each. They are all brand new. Looking
for $75 each. Contact me privately if interested.

Thanks,
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder

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> Just curious.  Is this a problem because I didn't purchase a MC for a
> disk brake setup?
Yes.


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If it helps I still run manual brakes after I upgraded to discs, the only 
difference is it takes a little more effort to get the beast slowed down.
Josh
66SS396


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>Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 14:32:44 -0500
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>Just curious.  Is this a problem because I didn't purchase a MC for a
>disk brake setup?
>Or would I have the same issue if I bought an OEM  MC for disk brakes?
>
>thanks!
>
>Frank Evan Perdicaro wrote:
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> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 08:52:52PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> > > In a message dated 7/16/01 5:17:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Remove the residual pressure valve(s) from your MC.
> > >
> > > How do you do that?  I'm planning on doing the same swap from a 68 
>Chevelle
> > > to a 65 El Camino in the next couple of weeks.
> >
> > Little tiny disk valves that are mounted on the spool inside the MC.
> > You need to pull and disassemble the MC, take off the obvious pieces,
> > and re-assemble.
> >
> > Be sure to wear eye protection.  There will be flying brake fluid,
> > springs and little clips.
> >
> > > ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤
> > > Jason
> > > San Berdoo, So. California
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Just curious.  Is this a problem because I didn't purchase a MC for a
disk brake setup?
Or would I have the same issue if I bought an OEM  MC for disk brakes?

thanks!

Frank Evan Perdicaro wrote:
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> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > Remove the residual pressure valve(s) from your MC.
> >
> > How do you do that?  I'm planning on doing the same swap from a 68 Chevelle
> > to a 65 El Camino in the next couple of weeks.
> 
> Little tiny disk valves that are mounted on the spool inside the MC.
> You need to pull and disassemble the MC, take off the obvious pieces,
> and re-assemble.
> 
> Be sure to wear eye protection.  There will be flying brake fluid,
> springs and little clips.
> 
> > ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤
> > Jason
> > San Berdoo, So. California
> > Jason's 1965 El Camino
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Little tiny disk valves that are mounted on the spool inside the MC.
You need to pull and disassemble the MC, take off the obvious pieces,
and re-assemble.

Be sure to wear eye protection.  There will be flying brake fluid,
springs and little clips.

Ahhh, very valuable info.  Thanks.

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Remove the residual pressure valve(s) from your MC.

How do you do that?  I'm planning on doing the same swap from a 68 Chevelle 
to a 65 El Camino in the next couple of weeks.
ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤
Jason
San Berdoo, So. California
Jason's 1965 El Camino

Re: [Chevelle-List] Master cylinder

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On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 08:52:52PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 7/16/01 5:17:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> writes:
> 
> 
> > Remove the residual pressure valve(s) from your MC.
> 
> How do you do that?  I'm planning on doing the same swap from a 68 Chevelle 
> to a 65 El Camino in the next couple of weeks.

Little tiny disk valves that are mounted on the spool inside the MC.
You need to pull and disassemble the MC, take off the obvious pieces,
and re-assemble.

Be sure to wear eye protection.  There will be flying brake fluid,
springs and little clips.


> ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤
> Jason
> San Berdoo, So. California
> Jason's 1965 El Camino
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[Chevelle-List] Master cylinder

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I recently switched from drums to disks, but I did not change the master
cylinder.

The disks are not releasing like I think they should.  If I open the
bleeder, some fluid will come out, and the disks will release some.  It
seems like something is holding some pressure.

I have brand new everything, and the MC is only about a year old.

Other than that, the brakes are working great.  

Any suggestions on how to get these to release better?

Thanks!

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> I recently switched from drums to disks, but I did not change the master
> cylinder.
> 
> The disks are not releasing like I think they should.  If I open the
> bleeder, some fluid will come out, and the disks will release some.  It
> seems like something is holding some pressure.

Common problem.

Remove the residual pressure valve(s) from your MC.


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