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Dale: in the first messagei saw about this,i thought they said vin plate ,may beI did not read it right.anyway ihave never seen a rivet for a vin plate for sale. but there isALOT I don't know and don't pretend to know.Like I said it was illegal to have them when i was a cop in the last century. (grin) thanks bob 64SS 65SS today at noon ,coming in on transport!!! ---Original Message--- From: The Chevelle Mailing List Date: 04/28/05 22:46:15 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? Bob, I think youre confusing Fisher Body plate (trim/firewall tag) rivets with VIN plate rivets. I dont think states care about body tags one way or the other but VIN plates, thats another story. In some states its illegal to even remove a VIN plate regardless of the reason and its illegal in some, if not all (?), states to have VIN rivets in your possession. Dale McIntosh67 El Camino1967 ChevelleReference CD in progressACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob howardSent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:22 PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea?
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My users of 59registry.com actually WANTED their email addresses posted, so people could come to them with questions regarding that person's car, or maybe for how to get info or tips on how to work on their own. Updating the email addresses has been cake- They send me the updated address and I update it.. 8^] As far as theft and fraud goes, my site has been up for 2 years and there have been ZERO issues. As a matter of fact, if anyone's car ever was stolen, what better way to verify the original owner! I wondered about all of the same things that you guys are worrying now about 2 years ago when I started it. As long as you monitor what's coming in on the site, you're good to go. And as far as switching VIN plates go, one call to your local police station clears that up.. They can search locally AND nationally for reportedly stolen VINs. Just my 2 cents.. Jim '66 Malibu '59 Corvette --- Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, I think as long as the info only contained the year and assembly plant (naturally on the VIN itself), the particulars of the car itself would be unknown, i.e., 307/350/396/454 engine wouldn't be known on 69-71 Chevelles. If someone is trying to phony up a VIN for a stolen car, they're probably going to have plates from another one anyway and if not, they can simply make one up - doesn't even have to be a correct VIN as far as selling the car goes. In fact, in a few years it might help recover a stolen car. Say I post the VIN to my El Camino and next week it gets stolen or totaled. Someone takes the VIN plate and attaches it to another El Camino and tries to sell it. Potential buyer checks the page, clicks the link and emails me about the car. I give 'em the scoop and the seller is apprehended with a phony VIN plate. Another option would be instead of putting the current owner's email address for privacy reasons or simply because email addresses do get changed, I keep a database offline of the owner's name and/or email address. A user clicks the VIN link and they send their email to me which I forward to the owner listed in the offline database. It'd then be up to the owner to contact the interested party. Anyone have ideas, interested? Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:24 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question Thats an interesting idea. I'd think that not too many corvette owners would want their location publicized.I can see I'm wrong. I'd be concerned about security with a high dollar car. On 4/27/05, J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a site exactly like that for '59 Corvette owners, and it's been up for almost 2 years. You can see it at www.59registry.com It's been a great site thus far, and I'm adding cars all the time. Regards, Jim '66 Malibu http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm '59 Corvette http://www.59registry.com --- John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if it would be worthwhile to try to start a simple web site where people post their VIN numbers and just maybe the original owners might stop by and can contact the person who currently owns the car. It would have to be anonymous (just email addresses, no full names or addresses). Might also be a way for a seller to find the one person who would pay absolutely the most to buy that particular car (again). Just a thought. I'll probably never do it. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question I thought 66/7 consoles had metal tops plastic bases? Yeah, I'm old too. Some mornings 45, some 75, but mostly 59. That's OK, I got to order a 66 malibu convertible and drive it off the dealers lot 6 weeks later. If you're driving 136676K192419 let me know I'll tell you about its first 5 years ;-) Neal __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
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You can buy those rivets. I believe one of the Corvette siteshas them for sale . They are not cheap. Around 40 bucks. Larry (Z)
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It's actually http://www.chevellestuff.com/vin/vin_database.htm John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dale Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:52 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? A rudimentary setup is done. See http://www.chevellestuff.com/tech/vin_database.htm and there's a link on the home page at http://www.chevellestuff.com/index.htm Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
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Great implementation of ideas Dale! I remember seeing something similar to what we are talking about on Chevelle.com under Chevelle Registry, the only thing is I don't see where anyone is able to view or use this information. http://www.chevelles.com/registry/index.shtml I had condensed the Team Chevelle's Stolen Report into a useable spread sheet to carry around with me. Just one of those it would make someone's day to find a stolen car and have it returned to the rightful owner. Krister Rick, I think as long as the info only contained the year and assembly plant (naturally on the VIN itself), the particulars of the car itself would be unknown, i.e., 307/350/396/454 engine wouldn't be known on 69-71 Chevelles. If someone is trying to phony up a VIN for a stolen car, they're probably going to have plates from another one anyway and if not, they can simply make one up - doesn't even have to be a correct VIN as far as selling the car goes. In fact, in a few years it might help recover a stolen car. Say I post the VIN to my El Camino and next week it gets stolen or totaled. Someone takes the VIN plate and attaches it to another El Camino and tries to sell it. Potential buyer checks the page, clicks the link and emails me about the car. I give 'em the scoop and the seller is apprehended with a phony VIN plate. Another option would be instead of putting the current owner's email address for privacy reasons or simply because email addresses do get changed, I keep a database offline of the owner's name and/or email address. A user clicks the VIN link and they send their email to me which I forward to the owner listed in the offline database. It'd then be up to the owner to contact the interested party. Anyone have ideas, interested? Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:24 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question Thats an interesting idea. I'd think that not too many corvette owners would want their location publicized.I can see I'm wrong. I'd be concerned about security with a high dollar car. On 4/27/05, J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a site exactly like that for '59 Corvette owners, and it's been up for almost 2 years. You can see it at www.59registry.com It's been a great site thus far, and I'm adding cars all the time. Regards, Jim '66 Malibu http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm '59 Corvette http://www.59registry.com --- John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if it would be worthwhile to try to start a simple web site where people post their VIN numbers and just maybe the original owners might stop by and can contact the person who currently owns the car. It would have to be anonymous (just email addresses, no full names or addresses). Might also be a way for a seller to find the one person who would pay absolutely the most to buy that particular car (again). Just a thought. I'll probably never do it. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question I thought 66/7 consoles had metal tops plastic bases? Yeah, I'm old too. Some mornings 45, some 75, but mostly 59. That's OK, I got to order a 66 malibu convertible and drive it off the dealers lot 6 weeks later. If you're driving 136676K192419 let me know I'll tell you about its first 5 years ;-) Neal __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
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things have changed in the last 18 years sinceI was a deputy. that doeshave cause for concern. thanks for theinfoLarry. bob ---Original Message--- From: The Chevelle Mailing List Date: 04/28/05 07:17:20 To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? You can buy those rivets. I believe one of the Corvette siteshas them for sale . They are not cheap. Around 40 bucks. Larry (Z)
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Would you want VIN numbers for cars that have been crushed? Just in case the Vin number shows up on another car? Larry Shouse - Original Message - From: Krister Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? Great implementation of ideas Dale! I remember seeing something similar to what we are talking about on Chevelle.com under Chevelle Registry, the only thing is I don't see where anyone is able to view or use this information. http://www.chevelles.com/registry/index.shtml I had condensed the Team Chevelle's Stolen Report into a useable spread sheet to carry around with me. Just one of those it would make someone's day to find a stolen car and have it returned to the rightful owner. Krister Rick, I think as long as the info only contained the year and assembly plant (naturally on the VIN itself), the particulars of the car itself would be unknown, i.e., 307/350/396/454 engine wouldn't be known on 69-71 Chevelles. If someone is trying to phony up a VIN for a stolen car, they're probably going to have plates from another one anyway and if not, they can simply make one up - doesn't even have to be a correct VIN as far as selling the car goes. In fact, in a few years it might help recover a stolen car. Say I post the VIN to my El Camino and next week it gets stolen or totaled. Someone takes the VIN plate and attaches it to another El Camino and tries to sell it. Potential buyer checks the page, clicks the link and emails me about the car. I give 'em the scoop and the seller is apprehended with a phony VIN plate. Another option would be instead of putting the current owner's email address for privacy reasons or simply because email addresses do get changed, I keep a database offline of the owner's name and/or email address. A user clicks the VIN link and they send their email to me which I forward to the owner listed in the offline database. It'd then be up to the owner to contact the interested party. Anyone have ideas, interested? Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:24 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question Thats an interesting idea. I'd think that not too many corvette owners would want their location publicized.I can see I'm wrong. I'd be concerned about security with a high dollar car. On 4/27/05, J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a site exactly like that for '59 Corvette owners, and it's been up for almost 2 years. You can see it at www.59registry.com It's been a great site thus far, and I'm adding cars all the time. Regards, Jim '66 Malibu http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm '59 Corvette http://www.59registry.com --- John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if it would be worthwhile to try to start a simple web site where people post their VIN numbers and just maybe the original owners might stop by and can contact the person who currently owns the car. It would have to be anonymous (just email addresses, no full names or addresses). Might also be a way for a seller to find the one person who would pay absolutely the most to buy that particular car (again). Just a thought. I'll probably never do it. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question I thought 66/7 consoles had metal tops plastic bases? Yeah, I'm old too. Some mornings 45, some 75, but mostly 59. That's OK, I got to order a 66 malibu convertible and drive it off the dealers lot 6 weeks later. If you're driving 136676K192419 let me know I'll tell you about its first 5 years ;-) Neal __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
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Dale - I was concerned ( for the Vette owners in Jims database) that associating a Name with a City would/could make it easy for the bad guys to find their steal to order targets.But thats a decision for Jim the owners of the cars. Will contribute my 72 info soon. Dale did I ever send you a copy of my build sheet? On 4/28/05, Larry Shouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you want VIN numbers for cars that have been crushed? Just in case the Vin number shows up on another car? Larry Shouse - Original Message - From: Krister Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? Great implementation of ideas Dale! I remember seeing something similar to what we are talking about on Chevelle.com under Chevelle Registry, the only thing is I don't see where anyone is able to view or use this information. http://www.chevelles.com/registry/index.shtml I had condensed the Team Chevelle's Stolen Report into a useable spread sheet to carry around with me. Just one of those it would make someone's day to find a stolen car and have it returned to the rightful owner. Krister Rick, I think as long as the info only contained the year and assembly plant (naturally on the VIN itself), the particulars of the car itself would be unknown, i.e., 307/350/396/454 engine wouldn't be known on 69-71 Chevelles. If someone is trying to phony up a VIN for a stolen car, they're probably going to have plates from another one anyway and if not, they can simply make one up - doesn't even have to be a correct VIN as far as selling the car goes. In fact, in a few years it might help recover a stolen car. Say I post the VIN to my El Camino and next week it gets stolen or totaled. Someone takes the VIN plate and attaches it to another El Camino and tries to sell it. Potential buyer checks the page, clicks the link and emails me about the car. I give 'em the scoop and the seller is apprehended with a phony VIN plate. Another option would be instead of putting the current owner's email address for privacy reasons or simply because email addresses do get changed, I keep a database offline of the owner's name and/or email address. A user clicks the VIN link and they send their email to me which I forward to the owner listed in the offline database. It'd then be up to the owner to contact the interested party. Anyone have ideas, interested? Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:24 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question Thats an interesting idea. I'd think that not too many corvette owners would want their location publicized.I can see I'm wrong. I'd be concerned about security with a high dollar car. On 4/27/05, J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a site exactly like that for '59 Corvette owners, and it's been up for almost 2 years. You can see it at www.59registry.com It's been a great site thus far, and I'm adding cars all the time. Regards, Jim '66 Malibu http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm '59 Corvette http://www.59registry.com --- John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if it would be worthwhile to try to start a simple web site where people post their VIN numbers and just maybe the original owners might stop by and can contact the person who currently owns the car. It would have to be anonymous (just email addresses, no full names or addresses). Might also be a way for a seller to find the one person who would pay absolutely the most to buy that particular car (again). Just a thought. I'll probably never do it. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question I thought 66/7 consoles had metal tops plastic bases? Yeah, I'm old too. Some mornings 45, some 75, but mostly 59. That's OK, I got to order a 66 malibu convertible and drive it off the dealers lot 6 weeks later. If you're driving 136676K192419 let me know I'll tell you about its first 5 years ;-) Neal __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
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Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? Previous to that, a decent machinist could fabricate factory duplicates from stainless like the originals, or so I have been told. Ed From: bob howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:56:56 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? things have changed in the last 18 years since I was a deputy. that does have cause for concern. thanks for the info Larry. bob ---Original Message--- From: The Chevelle Mailing List mailto:Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: 04/28/05 07:17:20 To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? You can buy those rivets. I believe one of the Corvette sites has them for sale . They are not cheap. Around 40 bucks. Larry (Z) http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=54475
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Cowl Tag rivets are available new at Danchuk part number 2687 for $7.00 or so. mike f --- bob howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the only problem with changing vin's is the rivits . I worked with stolen auto div. out of okla. city for a couple of years ,(their crooks were dumping stipped car in my county) and I asked about that same deal of changing vins ,and they said the rivits tell off on a crook. fyi bob 64SS ---Original Message--- From: The Chevelle Mailing List Date: 04/27/05 21:38:35 To: 'Rick Schaefer'; 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? Rick, I think as long as the info only contained the year and assembly plant (naturally on the VIN itself), the particulars of the car itself would be unknown, i.e., 307/350/396/454 engine wouldn't be known on 69-71 Chevelles. If someone is trying to phony up a VIN for a stolen car, they're probably going to have plates from another one anyway and if not, they can simply make one up - doesn't even have to be a correct VIN as far as selling the car goes. In fact, in a few years it might help recover a stolen car. Say I post the VIN to my El Camino and next week it gets stolen or totaled. Someone takes the VIN plate and attaches it to another El Camino and tries to sell it. Potential buyer checks the page, clicks the link and emails me about the car. I give 'em the scoop and the seller is apprehended with a phony VIN plate. Another option would be instead of putting the current owner's email address for privacy reasons or simply because email addresses do get changed, I keep a database offline of the owner's name and/or email address. A user clicks the VIN link and they send their email to me which I forward to the owner listed in the offline database. It'd then be up to the owner to contact the interested party. Anyone have ideas, interested? Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:24 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question Thats an interesting idea. I'd think that not too many corvette owners would want their location publicized.I can see I'm wrong. I'd be concerned about security with a high dollar car. On 4/27/05, J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a site exactly like that for '59 Corvette owners, and it's been up for almost 2 years. You can see it at www.59registry.com It's been a great site thus far, and I'm adding cars all the time. Regards, Jim '66 Malibu http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm '59 Corvette http://www.59registry.com --- John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if it would be worthwhile to try to start a simple web site where people post their VIN numbers and just maybe the original owners might stop by and can contact the person who currently owns the car. It would have to be anonymous (just email addresses, no full names or addresses). Might also be a way for a seller to find the one person who would pay absolutely the most to buy that particular car (again). Just a thought. I'll probably never do it. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question I thought 66/7 consoles had metal tops plastic bases? Yeah, I'm old too. Some mornings 45, some 75, but mostly 59. That's OK, I got to order a 66 malibu convertible and drive it off the dealers lot 6 weeks later. If you're driving 136676K192419 let me know I'll tell you about its first 5 years ;-) Neal __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Yeah, I 'improved' and moved it. Sorry 'bout that. Dale McIntosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:58 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? It's actually http://www.chevellestuff.com/vin/vin_database.htm John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dale Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:52 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? A rudimentary setup is done. See http://www.chevellestuff.com/tech/vin_database.htm and there's a link on the home page at http://www.chevellestuff.com/index.htm Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
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no wonder the chop shops are doing well.20 years ago you would have been hauled in just for having rivets!! bob ---Original Message--- From: The Chevelle Mailing List Date: 04/28/05 13:39:55 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? Cowl Tag rivets are available new at Danchuk part number 2687 for $7.00 or so. mike f --- bob howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the only problem with changing vin's is the rivits . I worked with stolen auto div. out of okla. city for a couple of years ,(their crooks were dumping stipped car in my county) and I asked about that same deal of changing vins ,and they said the rivits tell off on a crook. fyi bob 64SS ---Original Message--- From: The Chevelle Mailing List Date: 04/27/05 21:38:35 To: 'Rick Schaefer'; 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? Rick, I think as long as the info only contained the year and assembly plant (naturally on the VIN itself), the particulars of the car itself would be unknown, i.e., 307/350/396/454 engine wouldn't be known on 69-71 Chevelles. If someone is trying to phony up a VIN for a stolen car, they're probably going to have plates from another one anyway and if not, they can simply make one up - doesn't even have to be a correct VIN as far as selling the car goes. In fact, in a few years it might help recover a stolen car.Say I post the VIN to my El Camino and next week it gets stolen or totaled.Someone takes the VIN plate and attaches it to another El Camino and tries to sell it. Potential buyer checks the page, clicks the link and emails me about the car.I give 'em the scoop and the seller is apprehended with a phony VIN plate. Another option would be instead of putting the current owner's email address for privacy reasons or simply because email addresses do get changed, I keep a database offline of the owner's name and/or email address.A user clicks the VIN link and they send their email to me which I forward to the owner listed in the offline database.It'd then be up to the owner to contact the interested party. Anyone have ideas, interested? Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:24 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question Thats an interesting idea. I'd think that not too many corvette owners would want their location publicized.I can see I'm wrong. I'd be concerned about securitywith a high dollar car. On 4/27/05, J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a site exactly like that for '59 Corvette owners, and it's been up for almost 2 years.You can see it at www.59registry.com It's been a great site thus far, and I'm adding cars all the time. Regards, Jim '66 Malibu http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm '59 Corvette http://www.59registry.com --- John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if it would be worthwhile to try to start a simple web site where people post their VIN numbers and just maybe the original owners might stop by and can contact the person who currently owns the car. It would have to be anonymous (just email addresses, no full names or addresses). Might also be a way for a seller to find the one person who would pay absolutely the most to buy that particular car (again). Just a thought. I'll probably never do it. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question I thought 66/7 consoles had metal tops plastic bases? Yeah, I'm old too.Some mornings 45, some 75, but mostly 59. That's OK, I got to order a 66 malibu convertible and drive it off the dealers lot 6 weeks later.If you're driving 136676K192419 let me know I'll tell you about its first 5 years ;-) Neal __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Bob, I think youre confusing Fisher Body plate (trim/firewall tag) rivets with VIN plate rivets. I dont think states care about body tags one way or the other but VIN plates, thats another story. In some states its illegal to even remove a VIN plate regardless of the reason and its illegal in some, if not all (?), states to have VIN rivets in your possession. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 ChevelleReference CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob howard Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:22 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? image001.jpg
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Rick, I think as long as the info only contained the year and assembly plant (naturally on the VIN itself), the particulars of the car itself would be unknown, i.e., 307/350/396/454 engine wouldn't be known on 69-71 Chevelles. If someone is trying to phony up a VIN for a stolen car, they're probably going to have plates from another one anyway and if not, they can simply make one up - doesn't even have to be a correct VIN as far as selling the car goes. In fact, in a few years it might help recover a stolen car. Say I post the VIN to my El Camino and next week it gets stolen or totaled. Someone takes the VIN plate and attaches it to another El Camino and tries to sell it. Potential buyer checks the page, clicks the link and emails me about the car. I give 'em the scoop and the seller is apprehended with a phony VIN plate. Another option would be instead of putting the current owner's email address for privacy reasons or simply because email addresses do get changed, I keep a database offline of the owner's name and/or email address. A user clicks the VIN link and they send their email to me which I forward to the owner listed in the offline database. It'd then be up to the owner to contact the interested party. Anyone have ideas, interested? Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:24 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question Thats an interesting idea. I'd think that not too many corvette owners would want their location publicized.I can see I'm wrong. I'd be concerned about security with a high dollar car. On 4/27/05, J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a site exactly like that for '59 Corvette owners, and it's been up for almost 2 years. You can see it at www.59registry.com It's been a great site thus far, and I'm adding cars all the time. Regards, Jim '66 Malibu http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm '59 Corvette http://www.59registry.com --- John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if it would be worthwhile to try to start a simple web site where people post their VIN numbers and just maybe the original owners might stop by and can contact the person who currently owns the car. It would have to be anonymous (just email addresses, no full names or addresses). Might also be a way for a seller to find the one person who would pay absolutely the most to buy that particular car (again). Just a thought. I'll probably never do it. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question I thought 66/7 consoles had metal tops plastic bases? Yeah, I'm old too. Some mornings 45, some 75, but mostly 59. That's OK, I got to order a 66 malibu convertible and drive it off the dealers lot 6 weeks later. If you're driving 136676K192419 let me know I'll tell you about its first 5 years ;-) Neal __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
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Dale, I think the VIN list is a great idea. Two weeks ago at a local cruise in the guy parked next to me (1970 GTO Judge ) told me that it was his brand new then sold so his wife wouldnt get it in the divorce. Some how by the grace of god 20 year after he sold it, he found it and bought it. It was all broke down and had been in an accident. He restored it to match his pictures of it. Let me tell you this is possibly the nicest restore I have ever seen. Ok, back to the point. The list is a great idea and I would be willing to participate. Let me know if I can help in anyway. Ryan. Also, does anyone have a set of the rear supports for a 68 SS. I dont know what they are called for sure but they look like the upper control arms but mount in front of the differential.
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Like finding a birth parent through an intermediary. Great idea, surprised it hasn't been done. Neal
RE: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea?
A rudimentary setup is done. See http://www.chevellestuff.com/tech/vin_database.htm and there's a link on the home page at http://www.chevellestuff.com/index.htm Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
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the only problem withchanging vin's is the rivits. I worked with stolen auto div. out of okla. city for a couple of years ,(their crooks were dumping stipped car in my county) and I asked about that same deal of changing vins ,and they said the rivits tell off on a crook. fyi bob 64SS ---Original Message--- From: The Chevelle Mailing List Date: 04/27/05 21:38:35 To: 'Rick Schaefer'; 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: [Chevelle-list] RE: VIN database idea? Rick, I think as long as the info only contained the year and assembly plant (naturally on the VIN itself), the particulars of the car itself would be unknown, i.e., 307/350/396/454 engine wouldn't be known on 69-71 Chevelles. If someone is trying to phony up a VIN for a stolen car, they're probably going to have plates from another one anyway and if not, they can simply make one up - doesn't even have to be a correct VIN as far as selling the car goes. In fact, in a few years it might help recover a stolen car.Say I post the VIN to my El Camino and next week it gets stolen or totaled.Someone takes the VIN plate and attaches it to another El Camino and tries to sell it. Potential buyer checks the page, clicks the link and emails me about the car.I give 'em the scoop and the seller is apprehended with a phony VIN plate. Another option would be instead of putting the current owner's email address for privacy reasons or simply because email addresses do get changed, I keep a database offline of the owner's name and/or email address.A user clicks the VIN link and they send their email to me which I forward to the owner listed in the offline database.It'd then be up to the owner to contact the interested party. Anyone have ideas, interested? Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:24 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question Thats an interesting idea. I'd think that not too many corvette owners would want their location publicized.I can see I'm wrong. I'd be concerned about securitywith a high dollar car. On 4/27/05, J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I created a site exactly like that for '59 Corvette owners, and it's been up for almost 2 years.You can see it at www.59registry.com It's been a great site thus far, and I'm adding cars all the time. Regards, Jim '66 Malibu http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm '59 Corvette http://www.59registry.com --- John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if it would be worthwhile to try to start a simple web site where people post their VIN numbers and just maybe the original owners might stop by and can contact the person who currently owns the car. It would have to be anonymous (just email addresses, no full names or addresses). Might also be a way for a seller to find the one person who would pay absolutely the most to buy that particular car (again). Just a thought. I'll probably never do it. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Console restro question I thought 66/7 consoles had metal tops plastic bases? Yeah, I'm old too.Some mornings 45, some 75, but mostly 59. That's OK, I got to order a 66 malibu convertible and drive it off the dealers lot 6 weeks later.If you're driving 136676K192419 let me know I'll tell you about its first 5 years ;-) Neal __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
