RE: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
Title: Message Yes, I'm sure they mean the uppers. They told me that unless I was drag racing and needed to control wheel hop, that I should leave my rear pretty loose. They advised that I leave in my ancient springs and upper arms with loose bushings, use their lower tubular arm, and no rear sway bar. This is for a small block 1967 with their entire front end kit. I swapped to the stiffer springs after driving for years with the HO Racing springs, which were not as stiff as I wanted. Talk to GW and see what they say. I was surprised that they told me not to buy rear springs, upper arms, and a sway bar. I'm impressed when a vendor tells me not to buy one of their parts because they are not needed. Brad -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 2:46 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touringBradI was going to use cut V-8 springs and see how it looks and feels and assumed just a stock GM bar would be ok in back.I already have a full set of Koni shocks for it.Also have the Comp T/A ZR's mounted on ARE wheels so basically waiting for sufficient time to start swapping parts. I've come to be wary of some of the manufacturer recommendations as they often seem to be assuming big block car vs lighter 64 or 65's. (based on factory specified curb weights found on various websites) Mostly the extra big sway bars and high rate springs might be ok for big blocks but not in a small block or six cylinder car. Have to call GW up and ask about the the "no poly bushings in the rear" thing, but I think they mean the upper arms because they're angled? Pete Geurds64 Chevelle(s)In a message dated 10/2/2003 9:36:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have pretty much the full GW setup. Tall spindles and their A arm in the front with extra stiff springs. The rear has their tubular lower control arm and 35 year old upper arm and bushings, and springs, with no rear bar. I have Koni adjustable shocks (if you want adjustable, it is worth it to pay for externally adjustable shocks - I have never removed mine to reset them for street!) all around. Combine that with 255/50/16 tires and it does pretty well. When I bought the wheels, they were from a then new Corvette (actually the Guldstrand GS80) and 16" wheels were pretty good. Today, I would quickly use a 17" with 275 tires for even more rubber on the road.I am very happy with the brakes and handling as is.
Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
Pete... that sounds like a sweet ride you got there. I'm a sucker for the 64 and 65's. I would love to see ome pics when you get everything mounted up and set. Mikey From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:45:56 EDT Brad I was going to use cut V-8 springs and see how it looks and feels and assumed just a stock GM bar would be ok in back. I already have a full set of Koni shocks for it. Also have the Comp T/A ZR's mounted on ARE wheels so basically waiting for sufficient time to start swapping parts. I've come to be wary of some of the manufacturer recommendations as they often seem to be assuming big block car vs lighter 64 or 65's. (based on factory specified curb weights found on various websites) Mostly the extra big sway bars and high rate springs might be ok for big blocks but not in a small block or six cylinder car. Have to call GW up and ask about the the "no poly bushings in the rear" thing, but I think they mean the upper arms because they're angled? Pete Geurds 64 Chevelle(s) -- -- In a message dated 10/2/2003 9:36:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I have pretty much the full GW setup. Tall spindles and their A arm in the > front with extra stiff springs. The rear has their tubular lower control > arm and 35 year old upper arm and bushings, and springs, with no rear bar. I > have Koni adjustable shocks (if you want adjustable, it is worth it to pay for > externally adjustable shocks - I have never removed mine to reset them for > street!) all around. Combine that with 255/50/16 tires and it does pretty > well. > > When I bought the wheels, they were from a then new Corvette (actually the > Guldstrand GS80) and 16" wheels were pretty good. Today, I would quickly use > a 17" with 275 tires for even more rubber on the road. > > I am very happy with the brakes and handling as is. > > _ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your existing Internet access and enjoy patented spam protection and more. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa
Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
Brad I was going to use cut V-8 springs and see how it looks and feels and assumed just a stock GM bar would be ok in back. I already have a full set of Koni shocks for it. Also have the Comp T/A ZR's mounted on ARE wheels so basically waiting for sufficient time to start swapping parts. I've come to be wary of some of the manufacturer recommendations as they often seem to be assuming big block car vs lighter 64 or 65's. (based on factory specified curb weights found on various websites) Mostly the extra big sway bars and high rate springs might be ok for big blocks but not in a small block or six cylinder car. Have to call GW up and ask about the the "no poly bushings in the rear" thing, but I think they mean the upper arms because they're angled? Pete Geurds 64 Chevelle(s) In a message dated 10/2/2003 9:36:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have pretty much the full GW setup. Tall spindles and their A arm in the front with extra stiff springs. The rear has their tubular lower control arm and 35 year old upper arm and bushings, and springs, with no rear bar. I have Koni adjustable shocks (if you want adjustable, it is worth it to pay for externally adjustable shocks - I have never removed mine to reset them for street!) all around. Combine that with 255/50/16 tires and it does pretty well. When I bought the wheels, they were from a then new Corvette (actually the Guldstrand GS80) and 16" wheels were pretty good. Today, I would quickly use a 17" with 275 tires for even more rubber on the road. I am very happy with the brakes and handling as is.
Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
Your so right Wayne, Pro Fun all the way ..
RE: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
Title: Message Pete, I have pretty much the full GW setup. Tall spindles and their A arm in the front with extra stiff springs. The rear has their tubular lower control arm and 35 year old upper arm and bushings, and springs, with no rear bar. I have Koni adjustable shocks (if you want adjustable, it is worth it to pay for externally adjustable shocks - I have never removed mine to reset them for street!) all around. Combine that with 255/50/16 tires and it does pretty well. When I bought the wheels, they were from a then new Corvette (actually the Guldstrand GS80) and 16" wheels were pretty good. Today, I would quickly use a 17" with 275 tires for even more rubber on the road. I am very happy with the brakes and handling as is. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring I think they just wanted to play cute with a catchy name: pro-street, now pro-touring.And don't forget "g" machine or canyon carver!I bought my first Chevelle in 77.Early on I realized the 64 needed help in corners.The Addco rear sway bar was on my car for over twenty years when I sold it.Got by for years with just sway bars, good tires and shocks; and don't underestimate a rebuilt front end either.The T/A steering box came way too late; would have done that long before if I'd realized how much it helped and how easy it was. (assuming you have the right pitman arm laying around - 64 Chevelles have 4 possible pitman arms!)My next effort will be with the tall spindles using the Global West kit.I'm still pondering their no rear sway bar approach though. Pete Geurds64 Chevelle(s)
Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
I agree with you Pete.. it's just a Buzz word.. Pro this Pro That... I tink the movment had it's roots in plan old Hot rodding... It's no fun piloting a High Performance Chevelle with 50 year old technology.. Stoping,, cornering accelerating and just plane old Fun to Drive, Seat of the pants handling... My 65 Elky has Hotchkis all around Grand-Natonal PS Box.. disks and performance pads in the rear. adjustable shocks .. Polly bushings.. and a BLASTl to drive on the Mountian curvy country roads you travel to get to and from my House.. I call it PRO FUN Wayne ACES # 1556 TC # 186
Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
I think they just wanted to play cute with a catchy name: pro-street, now pro-touring. And don't forget "g" machine or canyon carver! I bought my first Chevelle in 77. Early on I realized the 64 needed help in corners. The Addco rear sway bar was on my car for over twenty years when I sold it. Got by for years with just sway bars, good tires and shocks; and don't underestimate a rebuilt front end either. The T/A steering box came way too late; would have done that long before if I'd realized how much it helped and how easy it was. (assuming you have the right pitman arm laying around - 64 Chevelles have 4 possible pitman arms!) My next effort will be with the tall spindles using the Global West kit. I'm still pondering their no rear sway bar approach though. Pete Geurds 64 Chevelle(s)
RE: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
Hey Brad, I'm right there with you. Starting with my second car, a '78 Z28,
I quickly found out how much fun it is to go around corners. Every car I've
had since then ('85) has been set up with corners in mind - shocks, springs,
anti-roll bars, lowered, wide low profile tires. I'm sure there were a lot
of people like us so a name for that type of car had to be created sooner or
later.
Herb Lumpp
http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 5:08 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
I've built my cars to handle since before the term was coined. One of
the first things I did was convert my Chevelle over to disks with the
tall spindles, but that was before GW and Hotchkiss came up with their
lengthened A Arms and HO was the only one doing this. After tearing
through one site of tires due to alignment limits, I got the Global West
setup and have never looked back.
I've even had the Chevelle at the track twice. Had lots of fun and even
impressed quite a few people at Willow Springs. I timed myself with my
watch and came up with a lap time of 1:48 (83 MPH average), and
calculated that I was pulling just a tad over 1 G based on Turn 2 (470
foot radius, 90 mph).
Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs
'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
>
> I think it was in comment to a couple shows they had and also
> kinda a hype
> fest for their powertour.
>
> Yeah I agree it is nice to be more then just straight line. I
> hate to throw
> mine on a trailer but what can I say... it isn't cause it
> wouldn't make...
> just I would rather spend less in gas LOL. You both have fine
> versions of
> pro-touring cars BTW.
>
> Mikey
>
> >From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
> >Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:04:11 -0400
> >
> >You got that right Clint! If you see my Elky on a trailer
> there are two
> >possiblities, a. it was stolen b. because I'm getting
> transferred and
> >there's no way I'm letting a shipping company take possesion of it!
> >
> >Herb Lumpp
> >http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Clint Hooper
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:31 PM
> >To: The Chevelle Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
> >
> >
> >Yeah,most of the crowd over at Pro-Touring.com think Hot
> Road's editor is
> >an
> >idiot and likes to stir up sh*t,just to get a reaction.
> Every trend has its
> >bozos,though. Personally,I want a car that can do more than
> just go fast in
> >a straight line. Can't say I've ever seen a trailered
> protouring car,yet.
> >If
> >you see mine on one,it's because it's either broke or stolen.
> >Different strokes for different folks,
> >Clint Hooper
> >H&H Custom,owner
> >LT5 Registry Director
> >http://www.LT5Registry.net/
> >ACES #1650
> >http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Capt Crunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > LOL... Actually the concept is way cool, but now it seems
> like it is
> > > becoming over done. I personaly hate trends. I like my rides to be
> > > different... especially when you hean to a show or the
> track and there
> >are
> > > ton of chevelles, novas, camaro's, and mustangs about.
> Need to stand
> >out.
> > > Plus I'm a sucker for the street rodders way of doing
> stuff. Some of the
> > > coolest and smoothest final tounches and some really
> original ideas.
> > >
> > > I think it was Hot Rod about 3-5 months ago had the
> editor write on this
> > > concept on the little editoral page in the front of the
> mag (I thought
> >it
> > > was hilarious as I think the car mags out there,
> especially hot rod and
> >car
> > > craft played a big part in hyping up this concept). It
> was one of the
> >best
> > > articles I ever read. Talked about how some many
>
RE: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
I've built my cars to handle since before the term was coined. One of the first things I did was convert my Chevelle over to disks with the tall spindles, but that was before GW and Hotchkiss came up with their lengthened A Arms and HO was the only one doing this. After tearing through one site of tires due to alignment limits, I got the Global West setup and have never looked back. I've even had the Chevelle at the track twice. Had lots of fun and even impressed quite a few people at Willow Springs. I timed myself with my watch and came up with a lap time of 1:48 (83 MPH average), and calculated that I was pulling just a tad over 1 G based on Turn 2 (470 foot radius, 90 mph). Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] pro touring > > I think it was in comment to a couple shows they had and also > kinda a hype > fest for their powertour. > > Yeah I agree it is nice to be more then just straight line. I > hate to throw > mine on a trailer but what can I say... it isn't cause it > wouldn't make... > just I would rather spend less in gas LOL. You both have fine > versions of > pro-touring cars BTW. > > Mikey > > >From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] pro touring > >Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:04:11 -0400 > > > >You got that right Clint! If you see my Elky on a trailer > there are two > >possiblities, a. it was stolen b. because I'm getting > transferred and > >there's no way I'm letting a shipping company take possesion of it! > > > >Herb Lumpp > >http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Clint Hooper > >Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:31 PM > >To: The Chevelle Mailing List > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring > > > > > >Yeah,most of the crowd over at Pro-Touring.com think Hot > Road's editor is > >an > >idiot and likes to stir up sh*t,just to get a reaction. > Every trend has its > >bozos,though. Personally,I want a car that can do more than > just go fast in > >a straight line. Can't say I've ever seen a trailered > protouring car,yet. > >If > >you see mine on one,it's because it's either broke or stolen. > >Different strokes for different folks, > >Clint Hooper > >H&H Custom,owner > >LT5 Registry Director > >http://www.LT5Registry.net/ > >ACES #1650 > >http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm > >- Original Message - > >From: Capt Crunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > LOL... Actually the concept is way cool, but now it seems > like it is > > > becoming over done. I personaly hate trends. I like my rides to be > > > different... especially when you hean to a show or the > track and there > >are > > > ton of chevelles, novas, camaro's, and mustangs about. > Need to stand > >out. > > > Plus I'm a sucker for the street rodders way of doing > stuff. Some of the > > > coolest and smoothest final tounches and some really > original ideas. > > > > > > I think it was Hot Rod about 3-5 months ago had the > editor write on this > > > concept on the little editoral page in the front of the > mag (I thought > >it > > > was hilarious as I think the car mags out there, > especially hot rod and > >car > > > craft played a big part in hyping up this concept). It > was one of the > >best > > > articles I ever read. Talked about how some many > Pro-touring cars were > > > becoming much like the Pro-street cars of the 80's that > most of them > >dispise > > > so much. He talked about how many were simply trailer > queens and show > > > rides... a far cry from being a daily driver/strip/road > course car. He > > > commented how they looked nice but were posting very > Honda-like times at > >the > > > strip and still getting wasted by a sock 3rd gen f-body, > none to less a > > > vette at the road course. > > > > > > I dunno, Maybe I'm just getting old. One man's junk is > another ma
Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
Yeah,I know what you mean,Mikey. Kinda hated to Jeff leave CHP magazine. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I like Jeff Smith... Another Mid-western like myself. I dunno seems like all > these magizine editors change mags like pairs of boxer shorts. > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >I remember a few years back when Jeff Smith moved from Hot Rod to Chevy > >High > >Performance and immediately set about turning it into "Chevy Pro Touring". > >The subsequent lack of variety convinced me to allow my subscription to > >lapse... > > > >Brad > > > > > I think it was Hot Rod about 3-5 months ago had the editor write on this > > > concept on the little editoral page in the front of the mag (I thought > >it > > > was hilarious as I think the car mags out there, especially hot rod and > >car > > > craft played a big part in hyping up this concept). It was one of the > >best > > > > > > Mikey > > > > _ > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month > (depending on the local service providers in your area). > https://broadband.msn.com > >
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I like Jeff Smith... Another Mid-western like myself. I dunno seems like all these magizine editors change mags like pairs of boxer shorts. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: The Chevelle Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 15:32:59 + I remember a few years back when Jeff Smith moved from Hot Rod to Chevy High Performance and immediately set about turning it into "Chevy Pro Touring". The subsequent lack of variety convinced me to allow my subscription to lapse... Brad > I think it was Hot Rod about 3-5 months ago had the editor write on this > concept on the little editoral page in the front of the mag (I thought it > was hilarious as I think the car mags out there, especially hot rod and car > craft played a big part in hyping up this concept). It was one of the best > > Mikey _ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
I remember a few years back when Jeff Smith moved from Hot Rod to Chevy High Performance and immediately set about turning it into "Chevy Pro Touring". The subsequent lack of variety convinced me to allow my subscription to lapse... Brad > I think it was Hot Rod about 3-5 months ago had the editor write on this > concept on the little editoral page in the front of the mag (I thought it > was hilarious as I think the car mags out there, especially hot rod and car > craft played a big part in hyping up this concept). It was one of the best > > Mikey
Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring
Good words Clint, Cars are to be driven, hard and often. André > Yeah,most of the crowd over at Pro-Touring.com think Hot Road's editor is an > idiot and likes to stir up sh*t,just to get a reaction. Every trend has its > bozos,though. Personally,I want a car that can do more than just go fast in > a straight line. Can't say I've ever seen a trailered protouring car,yet. If > you see mine on one,it's because it's either broke or stolen. > Different strokes for different folks, > Clint Hooper > H&H Custom,owner > LT5 Registry Director > http://www.LT5Registry.net/ > ACES #1650 > http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm > - Original Message - > From: Capt Crunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > LOL... Actually the concept is way cool, but now it seems like it is > > becoming over done. I personaly hate trends. I like my rides to be > > different... especially when you hean to a show or the track and there are > > ton of chevelles, novas, camaro's, and mustangs about. Need to stand out. > > Plus I'm a sucker for the street rodders way of doing stuff. Some of the > > coolest and smoothest final tounches and some really original ideas. > > > > I think it was Hot Rod about 3-5 months ago had the editor write on this > > concept on the little editoral page in the front of the mag (I thought it > > was hilarious as I think the car mags out there, especially hot rod and > car > > craft played a big part in hyping up this concept). It was one of the best > > articles I ever read. Talked about how some many Pro-touring cars were > > becoming much like the Pro-street cars of the 80's that most of them > dispise > > so much. He talked about how many were simply trailer queens and show > > rides... a far cry from being a daily driver/strip/road course car. He > > commented how they looked nice but were posting very Honda-like times at > the > > strip and still getting wasted by a sock 3rd gen f-body, none to less a > > vette at the road course. > > > > I dunno, Maybe I'm just getting old. One man's junk is another man's > > treasure right? > > > > Mikey > > > > > > >From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 12bolt vs dana 44 > > >Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:20:31 -0500 > > > > > >It's ok,Mikey. ProTouring is a very cool thing. > > >Clint Hooper > > >H&H Custom,owner > > >LT5 Registry Director > > >http://www.LT5Registry.net/ > > >ACES #1650 > > >http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm > > >- Original Message - > > >From: Capt Crunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > I agree it sounds like a pretty challenging swap... but then again so > > >many > > > > have told me similar things on mine. I do have too admit it would make > > >for > > >a > > > > cool swap if you are going for the corner carver/typical pro touring > > >(ack > > > > did I just use that term?). > > > > > > > > Mikey > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local > > service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com > > > > > > >
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I think it was in comment to a couple shows they had and also kinda a hype fest for their powertour. Yeah I agree it is nice to be more then just straight line. I hate to throw mine on a trailer but what can I say... it isn't cause it wouldn't make... just I would rather spend less in gas LOL. You both have fine versions of pro-touring cars BTW. Mikey From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] pro touring Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:04:11 -0400 You got that right Clint! If you see my Elky on a trailer there are two possiblities, a. it was stolen b. because I'm getting transferred and there's no way I'm letting a shipping company take possesion of it! Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:31 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring Yeah,most of the crowd over at Pro-Touring.com think Hot Road's editor is an idiot and likes to stir up sh*t,just to get a reaction. Every trend has its bozos,though. Personally,I want a car that can do more than just go fast in a straight line. Can't say I've ever seen a trailered protouring car,yet. If you see mine on one,it's because it's either broke or stolen. Different strokes for different folks, Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > LOL... Actually the concept is way cool, but now it seems like it is > becoming over done. I personaly hate trends. I like my rides to be > different... especially when you hean to a show or the track and there are > ton of chevelles, novas, camaro's, and mustangs about. Need to stand out. > Plus I'm a sucker for the street rodders way of doing stuff. Some of the > coolest and smoothest final tounches and some really original ideas. > > I think it was Hot Rod about 3-5 months ago had the editor write on this > concept on the little editoral page in the front of the mag (I thought it > was hilarious as I think the car mags out there, especially hot rod and car > craft played a big part in hyping up this concept). It was one of the best > articles I ever read. Talked about how some many Pro-touring cars were > becoming much like the Pro-street cars of the 80's that most of them dispise > so much. He talked about how many were simply trailer queens and show > rides... a far cry from being a daily driver/strip/road course car. He > commented how they looked nice but were posting very Honda-like times at the > strip and still getting wasted by a sock 3rd gen f-body, none to less a > vette at the road course. > > I dunno, Maybe I'm just getting old. One man's junk is another man's > treasure right? > > Mikey > > > >From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 12bolt vs dana 44 > >Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:20:31 -0500 > > > >It's ok,Mikey. ProTouring is a very cool thing. > >Clint Hooper > >H&H Custom,owner > >LT5 Registry Director > >http://www.LT5Registry.net/ > >ACES #1650 > >http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm > >- Original Message - > >From: Capt Crunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > I agree it sounds like a pretty challenging swap... but then again so > >many > > > have told me similar things on mine. I do have too admit it would make > >for > >a > > > cool swap if you are going for the corner carver/typical pro touring > >(ack > > > did I just use that term?). > > > > > > Mikey _ Get McAfee virus scanning and cleaning of incoming attachments. Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
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You got that right Clint! If you see my Elky on a trailer there are two possiblities, a. it was stolen b. because I'm getting transferred and there's no way I'm letting a shipping company take possesion of it! Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:31 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] pro touring Yeah,most of the crowd over at Pro-Touring.com think Hot Road's editor is an idiot and likes to stir up sh*t,just to get a reaction. Every trend has its bozos,though. Personally,I want a car that can do more than just go fast in a straight line. Can't say I've ever seen a trailered protouring car,yet. If you see mine on one,it's because it's either broke or stolen. Different strokes for different folks, Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > LOL... Actually the concept is way cool, but now it seems like it is > becoming over done. I personaly hate trends. I like my rides to be > different... especially when you hean to a show or the track and there are > ton of chevelles, novas, camaro's, and mustangs about. Need to stand out. > Plus I'm a sucker for the street rodders way of doing stuff. Some of the > coolest and smoothest final tounches and some really original ideas. > > I think it was Hot Rod about 3-5 months ago had the editor write on this > concept on the little editoral page in the front of the mag (I thought it > was hilarious as I think the car mags out there, especially hot rod and car > craft played a big part in hyping up this concept). It was one of the best > articles I ever read. Talked about how some many Pro-touring cars were > becoming much like the Pro-street cars of the 80's that most of them dispise > so much. He talked about how many were simply trailer queens and show > rides... a far cry from being a daily driver/strip/road course car. He > commented how they looked nice but were posting very Honda-like times at the > strip and still getting wasted by a sock 3rd gen f-body, none to less a > vette at the road course. > > I dunno, Maybe I'm just getting old. One man's junk is another man's > treasure right? > > Mikey > > > >From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 12bolt vs dana 44 > >Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:20:31 -0500 > > > >It's ok,Mikey. ProTouring is a very cool thing. > >Clint Hooper > >H&H Custom,owner > >LT5 Registry Director > >http://www.LT5Registry.net/ > >ACES #1650 > >http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm > >- Original Message - > >From: Capt Crunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > I agree it sounds like a pretty challenging swap... but then again so > >many > > > have told me similar things on mine. I do have too admit it would make > >for > >a > > > cool swap if you are going for the corner carver/typical pro touring > >(ack > > > did I just use that term?). > > > > > > Mikey
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Yeah,most of the crowd over at Pro-Touring.com think Hot Road's editor is an idiot and likes to stir up sh*t,just to get a reaction. Every trend has its bozos,though. Personally,I want a car that can do more than just go fast in a straight line. Can't say I've ever seen a trailered protouring car,yet. If you see mine on one,it's because it's either broke or stolen. Different strokes for different folks, Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > LOL... Actually the concept is way cool, but now it seems like it is > becoming over done. I personaly hate trends. I like my rides to be > different... especially when you hean to a show or the track and there are > ton of chevelles, novas, camaro's, and mustangs about. Need to stand out. > Plus I'm a sucker for the street rodders way of doing stuff. Some of the > coolest and smoothest final tounches and some really original ideas. > > I think it was Hot Rod about 3-5 months ago had the editor write on this > concept on the little editoral page in the front of the mag (I thought it > was hilarious as I think the car mags out there, especially hot rod and car > craft played a big part in hyping up this concept). It was one of the best > articles I ever read. Talked about how some many Pro-touring cars were > becoming much like the Pro-street cars of the 80's that most of them dispise > so much. He talked about how many were simply trailer queens and show > rides... a far cry from being a daily driver/strip/road course car. He > commented how they looked nice but were posting very Honda-like times at the > strip and still getting wasted by a sock 3rd gen f-body, none to less a > vette at the road course. > > I dunno, Maybe I'm just getting old. One man's junk is another man's > treasure right? > > Mikey > > > >From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 12bolt vs dana 44 > >Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:20:31 -0500 > > > >It's ok,Mikey. ProTouring is a very cool thing. > >Clint Hooper > >H&H Custom,owner > >LT5 Registry Director > >http://www.LT5Registry.net/ > >ACES #1650 > >http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm > >- Original Message - > >From: Capt Crunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > I agree it sounds like a pretty challenging swap... but then again so > >many > > > have told me similar things on mine. I do have too admit it would make > >for > >a > > > cool swap if you are going for the corner carver/typical pro touring > >(ack > > > did I just use that term?). > > > > > > Mikey > > > > > > > > _ > High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local > service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com > >
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LOL... Actually the concept is way cool, but now it seems like it is becoming over done. I personaly hate trends. I like my rides to be different... especially when you hean to a show or the track and there are ton of chevelles, novas, camaro's, and mustangs about. Need to stand out. Plus I'm a sucker for the street rodders way of doing stuff. Some of the coolest and smoothest final tounches and some really original ideas. I think it was Hot Rod about 3-5 months ago had the editor write on this concept on the little editoral page in the front of the mag (I thought it was hilarious as I think the car mags out there, especially hot rod and car craft played a big part in hyping up this concept). It was one of the best articles I ever read. Talked about how some many Pro-touring cars were becoming much like the Pro-street cars of the 80's that most of them dispise so much. He talked about how many were simply trailer queens and show rides... a far cry from being a daily driver/strip/road course car. He commented how they looked nice but were posting very Honda-like times at the strip and still getting wasted by a sock 3rd gen f-body, none to less a vette at the road course. I dunno, Maybe I'm just getting old. One man's junk is another man's treasure right? Mikey From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 12bolt vs dana 44 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:20:31 -0500 It's ok,Mikey. ProTouring is a very cool thing. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I agree it sounds like a pretty challenging swap... but then again so many > have told me similar things on mine. I do have too admit it would make for a > cool swap if you are going for the corner carver/typical pro touring (ack > did I just use that term?). > > Mikey _ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com
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Yes Clint, I think Mark stielows The Mule camaro have a 4-link with coilovers, the only thing I would add is a panhard bar if the car doesent have it. A friend in norway have a rally car with 4-link as well, he do use a watts link to keep the axle laterally. I'm not sure of difference between the two. btw my t-5 setup arrived today :) André > Thank you,Herb. Maybe I can end up with an Elky that's 1/2 as nice as your '66. > Just wondering out loud but has anyone seen or read of a ProTourer wit h four link & coilovers? I'm just wondering what mods,if any,I will have to make to convert this car to one. > Clint Hooper > LT5 Registry Director > Wichita Falls,Tx > (940) 855-6636 > '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody > TX TAGS: USA ZR1 > http://www.LT5Registry.net/ > '69 El Camino Pro Street > - Original Message - > From: Herbert Lumpp > > Clint, > > I just looked at the pictures you sent of your new Elky and I wanted to say congrats and let everyone know that hasn't seen the pics, Clint found a sweet lookin' ride!!! > > cYa- > > Herb Lumpp > 1966 El Camino > ACES 3509, MCC 528 > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ > > - Original Message - > From: Clint Hooper > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:24 AM > Subject: [Chevelle-List] '69 El Camino photos > > > I emailed some photos of my 69 Elky to Dale McIntosh. Thanks for t he help,Dale. > Clint Hooper > LT5 Registry Director > Wichita Falls,Tx > (940) 855-6636 > '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody > TX TAGS: USA ZR1 > http://www.LT5Registry.net/ > '69 El Camino Pro Street > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
