Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
Brake Kleen works great along with a stainless brush. I used to do a lot of welding on aluminum fuel tanks,chipper chutes & radiator shrouds,it was all done with a hand spool mig welder.When I did steel I just changed the cable & gas & was set to go. The main & important thing is to just make sure the aluminum is "CLEAN" If not... The weld gets impurities,which means you have to grind down & start all over again..no fun. Mikey ---Original Message--- From: Brian Knight Date: 6/6/2008 12:02:43 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! Oops... sometimes my eyes work faster than my brain. Go figure. Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 08:07:58 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! I believe he was talking about brake cleaner not brake fluid. - Original Message - From: Brian Knight To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! No brake fluid. Don't use anything that may leave a residue, this would defeat the purpose of cleaning. Brian > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:16:00 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! > > I've been using a stainless steel brush and alcohol to > clean the metal. Someone recommended brake cleaner > instead- is one better than the other? > > Jim > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Too far for a house call! Dan is right, cleaning is > > very important. With AC tig, the current does the > > cleaning for you. If you use the braze method, a > > stainless wire brush will do the trick. Good luck, > > and feel free to ask any questions, I'm sure I can > > help. > > > > Brian > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:58:04 -0700 > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - > > OY!! > > > > > > Elkton, MD > > > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You could get the rods from any welding supply > > > > house, maybe even a local auto parts store. > > Where > > > > are you located? I've owned my welding shop for > > over > > > > 20 years near Frankfort, KY. > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:44:20 -0700 > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum > > - > > > > OY!! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, Brian- > > > > > > > > > > Alot of this stuff is new to me, just as MIG > > > > welding > > > > > was when I learned how to do it. Would I have > > to > > > > > order that stuff thru Eastwood? > > > > > > > > > > I've included a link to a pic of what I'm > > trying > > > > to > > > > > get welded together. See below: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.btdt.hypermart.net/P1010094.JPG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would even be willing to pay someone in the > > area > > > > to > > > > > help me get this knocked out. I'm having a > > really > > > > > tough time with it. > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the material you're welding, tig would > > be a > > > > much > > > > > > better choice. Also, you can buy standard > > coated > > > > > > electrodes and use them like you would a > > brazing > > > > > > rod, with a torch. Much easier than mig on > > > > something > > > > > > so thin. > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 -0700 > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > > > > > Subject: Re:
Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
Oops... sometimes my eyes work faster than my brain. Go figure. Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 08:07:58 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! I believe he was talking about brake cleaner not brake fluid. - Original Message - From: Brian Knight To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! No brake fluid. Don't use anything that may leave a residue, this would defeat the purpose of cleaning. Brian > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:16:00 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! > > I've been using a stainless steel brush and alcohol to > clean the metal. Someone recommended brake cleaner > instead- is one better than the other? > > Jim > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Too far for a house call! Dan is right, cleaning is > > very important. With AC tig, the current does the > > cleaning for you. If you use the braze method, a > > stainless wire brush will do the trick. Good luck, > > and feel free to ask any questions, I'm sure I can > > help. > > > > Brian > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:58:04 -0700 > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - > > OY!! > > > > > > Elkton, MD > > > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You could get the rods from any welding supply > > > > house, maybe even a local auto parts store. > > Where > > > > are you located? I've owned my welding shop for > > over > > > > 20 years near Frankfort, KY. > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:44:20 -0700 > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum > > - > > > > OY!! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, Brian- > > > > > > > > > > Alot of this stuff is new to me, just as MIG > > > > welding > > > > > was when I learned how to do it. Would I have > > to > > > > > order that stuff thru Eastwood? > > > > > > > > > > I've included a link to a pic of what I'm > > trying > > > > to > > > > > get welded together. See below: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.btdt.hypermart.net/P1010094.JPG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would even be willing to pay someone in the > > area > > > > to > > > > > help me get this knocked out. I'm having a > > really > > > > > tough time with it. > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the material you're welding, tig would > > be a > > > > much > > > > > > better choice. Also, you can buy standard > > coated > > > > > > electrodes and use them like you would a > > brazing > > > > > > rod, with a torch. Much easier than mig on > > > > something > > > > > > so thin. > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 -0700 > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding > > aluminum > > > > - > > > > > > OY!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, using 100% argon.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Trooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
Correct Trooper- sorry if I had a typo somewhere. Jim --- Trooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe he was talking about brake cleaner not > brake fluid. > - Original Message - > From: Brian Knight > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:16 PM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - > OY!! > > > No brake fluid. Don't use anything that may leave > a residue, this would defeat the purpose of > cleaning. > >Brian > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:16:00 -0700 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - > OY!! > > > > I've been using a stainless steel brush and > alcohol to > > clean the metal. Someone recommended brake > cleaner > > instead- is one better than the other? > > > > Jim > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Too far for a house call! Dan is right, > cleaning is > > > very important. With AC tig, the current does > the > > > cleaning for you. If you use the braze method, > a > > > stainless wire brush will do the trick. Good > luck, > > > and feel free to ask any questions, I'm sure I > can > > > help. > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:58:04 -0700 > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding > aluminum - > > > OY!! > > > > > > > > Elkton, MD > > > > > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You could get the rods from any welding > supply > > > > > house, maybe even a local auto parts > store. > > > Where > > > > > are you located? I've owned my welding > shop for > > > over > > > > > 20 years near Frankfort, KY. > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:44:20 -0700 > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding > aluminum > > > - > > > > > OY!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, Brian- > > > > > > > > > > > > Alot of this stuff is new to me, just as > MIG > > > > > welding > > > > > > was when I learned how to do it. Would I > have > > > to > > > > > > order that stuff thru Eastwood? > > > > > > > > > > > > I've included a link to a pic of what > I'm > > > trying > > > > > to > > > > > > get welded together. See below: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.btdt.hypermart.net/P1010094.JPG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would even be willing to pay someone > in the > > > area > > > > > to > > > > > > help me get this knocked out. I'm having > a > > > really > > > > > > tough time with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the material you're welding, tig > would > > > be a > > > > > much > > > > > > > better choice. Also, you can buy > standard > > > coated > > > > > > > electrodes and use them like you would > a > > > brazing > > > > > > > rod, with a torch. Much easier than > mig on > > > > > something > > > > > > > so thin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 -0700 > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
I believe he was talking about brake cleaner not brake fluid. - Original Message - From: Brian Knight To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! No brake fluid. Don't use anything that may leave a residue, this would defeat the purpose of cleaning. Brian > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:16:00 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! > > I've been using a stainless steel brush and alcohol to > clean the metal. Someone recommended brake cleaner > instead- is one better than the other? > > Jim > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Too far for a house call! Dan is right, cleaning is > > very important. With AC tig, the current does the > > cleaning for you. If you use the braze method, a > > stainless wire brush will do the trick. Good luck, > > and feel free to ask any questions, I'm sure I can > > help. > > > > Brian > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:58:04 -0700 > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - > > OY!! > > > > > > Elkton, MD > > > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You could get the rods from any welding supply > > > > house, maybe even a local auto parts store. > > Where > > > > are you located? I've owned my welding shop for > > over > > > > 20 years near Frankfort, KY. > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:44:20 -0700 > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum > > - > > > > OY!! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, Brian- > > > > > > > > > > Alot of this stuff is new to me, just as MIG > > > > welding > > > > > was when I learned how to do it. Would I have > > to > > > > > order that stuff thru Eastwood? > > > > > > > > > > I've included a link to a pic of what I'm > > trying > > > > to > > > > > get welded together. See below: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.btdt.hypermart.net/P1010094.JPG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would even be willing to pay someone in the > > area > > > > to > > > > > help me get this knocked out. I'm having a > > really > > > > > tough time with it. > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the material you're welding, tig would > > be a > > > > much > > > > > > better choice. Also, you can buy standard > > coated > > > > > > electrodes and use them like you would a > > brazing > > > > > > rod, with a torch. Much easier than mig on > > > > something > > > > > > so thin. > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 -0700 > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding > > aluminum > > > > - > > > > > > OY!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, using 100% argon.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Trooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > > > You didn't mention your shielding gas. > > Are > > > > you > > > > > > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
No brake fluid. Don't use anything that may leave a residue, this would defeat the purpose of cleaning. Brian > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:16:00 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! > > I've been using a stainless steel brush and alcohol to > clean the metal. Someone recommended brake cleaner > instead- is one better than the other? > > Jim > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Too far for a house call! Dan is right, cleaning is > > very important. With AC tig, the current does the > > cleaning for you. If you use the braze method, a > > stainless wire brush will do the trick. Good luck, > > and feel free to ask any questions, I'm sure I can > > help. > > > > Brian > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:58:04 -0700 > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - > > OY!! > > > > > > Elkton, MD > > > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You could get the rods from any welding supply > > > > house, maybe even a local auto parts store. > > Where > > > > are you located? I've owned my welding shop for > > over > > > > 20 years near Frankfort, KY. > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:44:20 -0700 > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum > > - > > > > OY!! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, Brian- > > > > > > > > > > Alot of this stuff is new to me, just as MIG > > > > welding > > > > > was when I learned how to do it. Would I have > > to > > > > > order that stuff thru Eastwood? > > > > > > > > > > I've included a link to a pic of what I'm > > trying > > > > to > > > > > get welded together. See below: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.btdt.hypermart.net/P1010094.JPG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would even be willing to pay someone in the > > area > > > > to > > > > > help me get this knocked out. I'm having a > > really > > > > > tough time with it. > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the material you're welding, tig would > > be a > > > > much > > > > > > better choice. Also, you can buy standard > > coated > > > > > > electrodes and use them like you would a > > brazing > > > > > > rod, with a torch. Much easier than mig on > > > > something > > > > > > so thin. > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 -0700 > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding > > aluminum > > > > - > > > > > > OY!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, using 100% argon.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Trooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > > > You didn't mention your shielding gas. > > Are > > > > you > > > > > > > > using argon gas. If not you > > > > > > > > should be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trooper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > > From: "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > To: "Chevelle Group" > > > > > > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
I've been using a stainless steel brush and alcohol to clean the metal. Someone recommended brake cleaner instead- is one better than the other? Jim --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Too far for a house call! Dan is right, cleaning is > very important. With AC tig, the current does the > cleaning for you. If you use the braze method, a > stainless wire brush will do the trick. Good luck, > and feel free to ask any questions, I'm sure I can > help. > > Brian > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:58:04 -0700 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - > OY!! > > > > Elkton, MD > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > You could get the rods from any welding supply > > > house, maybe even a local auto parts store. > Where > > > are you located? I've owned my welding shop for > over > > > 20 years near Frankfort, KY. > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:44:20 -0700 > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum > - > > > OY!! > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, Brian- > > > > > > > > Alot of this stuff is new to me, just as MIG > > > welding > > > > was when I learned how to do it. Would I have > to > > > > order that stuff thru Eastwood? > > > > > > > > I've included a link to a pic of what I'm > trying > > > to > > > > get welded together. See below: > > > > > > > > http://www.btdt.hypermart.net/P1010094.JPG > > > > > > > > > > > > I would even be willing to pay someone in the > area > > > to > > > > help me get this knocked out. I'm having a > really > > > > tough time with it. > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the material you're welding, tig would > be a > > > much > > > > > better choice. Also, you can buy standard > coated > > > > > electrodes and use them like you would a > brazing > > > > > rod, with a torch. Much easier than mig on > > > something > > > > > so thin. > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 -0700 > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding > aluminum > > > - > > > > > OY!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, using 100% argon.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Trooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > > You didn't mention your shielding gas. > Are > > > you > > > > > > > using argon gas. If not you > > > > > > > should be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trooper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > From: "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: "Chevelle Group" > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:45 AM > > > > > > > Subject: [Chevelle-list] welding > aluminum - > > > OY!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With my '66 I had to learn how to MIG > weld > > > so > > > > > I > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > redo the quarters, floors, and other > misc > > > > > work. I > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > able to pick it up relatively easy, > and > > > have > > > > > been > > > > > > > > really thankful that I learned the > trade. > > > > > > > > > > > &g
Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
Too far for a house call! Dan is right, cleaning is very important. With AC tig, the current does the cleaning for you. If you use the braze method, a stainless wire brush will do the trick. Good luck, and feel free to ask any questions, I'm sure I can help. Brian > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:58:04 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! > > Elkton, MD > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You could get the rods from any welding supply > > house, maybe even a local auto parts store. Where > > are you located? I've owned my welding shop for over > > 20 years near Frankfort, KY. > > > > Brian > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:44:20 -0700 > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - > > OY!! > > > > > > Thanks for the info, Brian- > > > > > > Alot of this stuff is new to me, just as MIG > > welding > > > was when I learned how to do it. Would I have to > > > order that stuff thru Eastwood? > > > > > > I've included a link to a pic of what I'm trying > > to > > > get welded together. See below: > > > > > > http://www.btdt.hypermart.net/P1010094.JPG > > > > > > > > > I would even be willing to pay someone in the area > > to > > > help me get this knocked out. I'm having a really > > > tough time with it. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > For the material you're welding, tig would be a > > much > > > > better choice. Also, you can buy standard coated > > > > electrodes and use them like you would a brazing > > > > rod, with a torch. Much easier than mig on > > something > > > > so thin. > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 -0700 > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum > > - > > > > OY!! > > > > > > > > > > Yep, using 100% argon.. > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > --- Trooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > You didn't mention your shielding gas. Are > > you > > > > > > using argon gas. If not you > > > > > > should be. > > > > > > > > > > > > Trooper > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > From: "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: "Chevelle Group" > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:45 AM > > > > > > Subject: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - > > OY!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With my '66 I had to learn how to MIG weld > > so > > > > I > > > > > > could > > > > > > > redo the quarters, floors, and other misc > > > > work. I > > > > > > was > > > > > > > able to pick it up relatively easy, and > > have > > > > been > > > > > > > really thankful that I learned the trade. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, now I have to do some aluminum > > > > welding on > > > > > > my > > > > > > > Vette project, and let's just say the > > learning > > > > > > > experience has been nowhere near as fun. > > I'm > > > > > > using a > > > > > > > Lincoln SP-125 Plus with the aluminum > > feeding > > > > kit, > > > > > > > 4043 wire, and getting all the info I can > > off > > > > the > > > > > > web. > > > > > > > The metal I need to weld is .060", and man > > is > > > > it > > > > > > > tougher to get welded than steel.. > > > > > > > > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
Elkton, MD --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You could get the rods from any welding supply > house, maybe even a local auto parts store. Where > are you located? I've owned my welding shop for over > 20 years near Frankfort, KY. > > Brian > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:44:20 -0700 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - > OY!! > > > > Thanks for the info, Brian- > > > > Alot of this stuff is new to me, just as MIG > welding > > was when I learned how to do it. Would I have to > > order that stuff thru Eastwood? > > > > I've included a link to a pic of what I'm trying > to > > get welded together. See below: > > > > http://www.btdt.hypermart.net/P1010094.JPG > > > > > > I would even be willing to pay someone in the area > to > > help me get this knocked out. I'm having a really > > tough time with it. > > > > Jim > > > > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > For the material you're welding, tig would be a > much > > > better choice. Also, you can buy standard coated > > > electrodes and use them like you would a brazing > > > rod, with a torch. Much easier than mig on > something > > > so thin. > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 -0700 > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum > - > > > OY!! > > > > > > > > Yep, using 100% argon.. > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > --- Trooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > You didn't mention your shielding gas. Are > you > > > > > using argon gas. If not you > > > > > should be. > > > > > > > > > > Trooper > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "Chevelle Group" > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:45 AM > > > > > Subject: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - > OY!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With my '66 I had to learn how to MIG weld > so > > > I > > > > > could > > > > > > redo the quarters, floors, and other misc > > > work. I > > > > > was > > > > > > able to pick it up relatively easy, and > have > > > been > > > > > > really thankful that I learned the trade. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, now I have to do some aluminum > > > welding on > > > > > my > > > > > > Vette project, and let's just say the > learning > > > > > > experience has been nowhere near as fun. > I'm > > > > > using a > > > > > > Lincoln SP-125 Plus with the aluminum > feeding > > > kit, > > > > > > 4043 wire, and getting all the info I can > off > > > the > > > > > web. > > > > > > The metal I need to weld is .060", and man > is > > > it > > > > > > tougher to get welded than steel.. > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess I just typed this email to vent > and > > > see > > > > > what > > > > > > other tips others might be able to provide > who > > > > > have > > > > > > gone through the same experience- my > biggest > > > > > > misconception is that knowing how to weld > > > steel > > > > > might > > > > > > help me along with being able to weld > > > aluminum.. > > > > > > WRONG!8^] > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > '66 Malibu > > > > > > > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online > > > storage. > > > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008 > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > Search that pays you back! Introducing Live Search > cashback. > http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=srchpaysyouback
Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
Jim, Not a welder myself but am very involved with it at the plant. Aluminum needs to be clean, very clean. Typically we etch the aluminum in tanks of hydrofluoric acid but for large work or repairs where that isn't practical we buy the acid in a bottle and brush it on. It should be available at any welding supply house. It removes all of the oxidation from the pores of the metal. If you use it, be very careful. If it was to get under your finger nails it can actually attack the bone and is quite painful to treat. Read the caution label carefully. I agree with earlier posts that TIG is better and will do a neater job. Also agree that you need a shielding gas although I think there may be some coated wires available for small jobs.Godspeed, Dan Solomon"It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry."http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 08:45:30 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > chevelle-list@chevelles.net> Subject: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - > OY!!> > With my '66 I had to learn how to MIG weld so I could> redo the > quarters, floors, and other misc work. I was> able to pick it up relatively > easy, and have been> really thankful that I learned the trade.> > However, > now I have to do some aluminum welding on my> Vette project, and let's just > say the learning> experience has been nowhere near as fun. I'm using a> > Lincoln SP-125 Plus with the aluminum feeding kit,> 4043 wire, and getting > all the info I can off the web.> The metal I need to weld is .060", and man > is it> tougher to get welded than steel.. > > I guess I just typed this email > to vent and see what> other tips others might be able to provide who have> > gone through the same experience- my biggest> misconception is that knowing > how to weld steel might> help me along with being able to weld aluminum..> > WRONG! 8^]> > Regards,> > Jim > '66 Malibu> > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm> > > > > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
You could get the rods from any welding supply house, maybe even a local auto parts store. Where are you located? I've owned my welding shop for over 20 years near Frankfort, KY. Brian > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:44:20 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! > > Thanks for the info, Brian- > > Alot of this stuff is new to me, just as MIG welding > was when I learned how to do it. Would I have to > order that stuff thru Eastwood? > > I've included a link to a pic of what I'm trying to > get welded together. See below: > > http://www.btdt.hypermart.net/P1010094.JPG > > > I would even be willing to pay someone in the area to > help me get this knocked out. I'm having a really > tough time with it. > > Jim > > > --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > For the material you're welding, tig would be a much > > better choice. Also, you can buy standard coated > > electrodes and use them like you would a brazing > > rod, with a torch. Much easier than mig on something > > so thin. > > > > Brian > > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 -0700 > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - > > OY!! > > > > > > Yep, using 100% argon.. > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > --- Trooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > You didn't mention your shielding gas. Are you > > > > using argon gas. If not you > > > > should be. > > > > > > > > Trooper > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Chevelle Group" > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:45 AM > > > > Subject: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > With my '66 I had to learn how to MIG weld so > > I > > > > could > > > > > redo the quarters, floors, and other misc > > work. I > > > > was > > > > > able to pick it up relatively easy, and have > > been > > > > > really thankful that I learned the trade. > > > > > > > > > > However, now I have to do some aluminum > > welding on > > > > my > > > > > Vette project, and let's just say the learning > > > > > experience has been nowhere near as fun. I'm > > > > using a > > > > > Lincoln SP-125 Plus with the aluminum feeding > > kit, > > > > > 4043 wire, and getting all the info I can off > > the > > > > web. > > > > > The metal I need to weld is .060", and man is > > it > > > > > tougher to get welded than steel.. > > > > > > > > > > I guess I just typed this email to vent and > > see > > > > what > > > > > other tips others might be able to provide who > > > > have > > > > > gone through the same experience- my biggest > > > > > misconception is that knowing how to weld > > steel > > > > might > > > > > help me along with being able to weld > > aluminum.. > > > > > WRONG!8^] > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > '66 Malibu > > > > > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online > > storage. > > > http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008 > > > > > _ Search that pays you back! Introducing Live Search cashback. http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=srchpaysyouback
Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
Thanks for the info, Brian- Alot of this stuff is new to me, just as MIG welding was when I learned how to do it. Would I have to order that stuff thru Eastwood? I've included a link to a pic of what I'm trying to get welded together. See below: http://www.btdt.hypermart.net/P1010094.JPG I would even be willing to pay someone in the area to help me get this knocked out. I'm having a really tough time with it. Jim --- Brian Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For the material you're welding, tig would be a much > better choice. Also, you can buy standard coated > electrodes and use them like you would a brazing > rod, with a torch. Much easier than mig on something > so thin. > > Brian > > > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 -0700 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - > OY!! > > > > Yep, using 100% argon.. > > > > Jim > > > > --- Trooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Jim, > > > You didn't mention your shielding gas. Are you > > > using argon gas. If not you > > > should be. > > > > > > Trooper > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Chevelle Group" > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:45 AM > > > Subject: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! > > > > > > > > > > With my '66 I had to learn how to MIG weld so > I > > > could > > > > redo the quarters, floors, and other misc > work. I > > > was > > > > able to pick it up relatively easy, and have > been > > > > really thankful that I learned the trade. > > > > > > > > However, now I have to do some aluminum > welding on > > > my > > > > Vette project, and let's just say the learning > > > > experience has been nowhere near as fun. I'm > > > using a > > > > Lincoln SP-125 Plus with the aluminum feeding > kit, > > > > 4043 wire, and getting all the info I can off > the > > > web. > > > > The metal I need to weld is .060", and man is > it > > > > tougher to get welded than steel.. > > > > > > > > I guess I just typed this email to vent and > see > > > what > > > > other tips others might be able to provide who > > > have > > > > gone through the same experience- my biggest > > > > misconception is that knowing how to weld > steel > > > might > > > > help me along with being able to weld > aluminum.. > > > > WRONG!8^] > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > '66 Malibu > > > > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online > storage. > http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008
Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
For the material you're welding, tig would be a much better choice. Also, you can buy standard coated electrodes and use them like you would a brazing rod, with a torch. Much easier than mig on something so thin. Brian > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:43 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! > > Yep, using 100% argon.. > > Jim > > --- Trooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Jim, > > You didn't mention your shielding gas. Are you > > using argon gas. If not you > > should be. > > > > Trooper > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Chevelle Group" > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:45 AM > > Subject: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! > > > > > > > With my '66 I had to learn how to MIG weld so I > > could > > > redo the quarters, floors, and other misc work. I > > was > > > able to pick it up relatively easy, and have been > > > really thankful that I learned the trade. > > > > > > However, now I have to do some aluminum welding on > > my > > > Vette project, and let's just say the learning > > > experience has been nowhere near as fun. I'm > > using a > > > Lincoln SP-125 Plus with the aluminum feeding kit, > > > 4043 wire, and getting all the info I can off the > > web. > > > The metal I need to weld is .060", and man is it > > > tougher to get welded than steel.. > > > > > > I guess I just typed this email to vent and see > > what > > > other tips others might be able to provide who > > have > > > gone through the same experience- my biggest > > > misconception is that knowing how to weld steel > > might > > > help me along with being able to weld aluminum.. > > > WRONG!8^] > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jim > > > '66 Malibu > > > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online storage. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008
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Yep, using 100% argon.. Jim --- Trooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jim, > You didn't mention your shielding gas. Are you > using argon gas. If not you > should be. > > Trooper > > - Original Message - > From: "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Chevelle Group" > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:45 AM > Subject: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! > > > > With my '66 I had to learn how to MIG weld so I > could > > redo the quarters, floors, and other misc work. I > was > > able to pick it up relatively easy, and have been > > really thankful that I learned the trade. > > > > However, now I have to do some aluminum welding on > my > > Vette project, and let's just say the learning > > experience has been nowhere near as fun. I'm > using a > > Lincoln SP-125 Plus with the aluminum feeding kit, > > 4043 wire, and getting all the info I can off the > web. > > The metal I need to weld is .060", and man is it > > tougher to get welded than steel.. > > > > I guess I just typed this email to vent and see > what > > other tips others might be able to provide who > have > > gone through the same experience- my biggest > > misconception is that knowing how to weld steel > might > > help me along with being able to weld aluminum.. > > WRONG!8^] > > > > Regards, > > > > Jim > > '66 Malibu > > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
Jim, You didn't mention your shielding gas. Are you using argon gas. If not you should be. Trooper - Original Message - From: "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chevelle Group" Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:45 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!! With my '66 I had to learn how to MIG weld so I could redo the quarters, floors, and other misc work. I was able to pick it up relatively easy, and have been really thankful that I learned the trade. However, now I have to do some aluminum welding on my Vette project, and let's just say the learning experience has been nowhere near as fun. I'm using a Lincoln SP-125 Plus with the aluminum feeding kit, 4043 wire, and getting all the info I can off the web. The metal I need to weld is .060", and man is it tougher to get welded than steel.. I guess I just typed this email to vent and see what other tips others might be able to provide who have gone through the same experience- my biggest misconception is that knowing how to weld steel might help me along with being able to weld aluminum.. WRONG!8^] Regards, Jim '66 Malibu http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm
[Chevelle-list] welding aluminum - OY!!
With my '66 I had to learn how to MIG weld so I could redo the quarters, floors, and other misc work. I was able to pick it up relatively easy, and have been really thankful that I learned the trade. However, now I have to do some aluminum welding on my Vette project, and let's just say the learning experience has been nowhere near as fun. I'm using a Lincoln SP-125 Plus with the aluminum feeding kit, 4043 wire, and getting all the info I can off the web. The metal I need to weld is .060", and man is it tougher to get welded than steel.. I guess I just typed this email to vent and see what other tips others might be able to provide who have gone through the same experience- my biggest misconception is that knowing how to weld steel might help me along with being able to weld aluminum.. WRONG!8^] Regards, Jim '66 Malibu http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/my66.htm
