RE: [Chevelle-List] [Chevelle] disc brake conversion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Dale, I have been considering using the Baer 4 disc brake system on my car. How much did the kit cost you and do you think i could get a kit to adapt to 2 drop spindles. Also what made you decide on the Track system. Thanks Michael From: 396guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] [Chevelle] disc brake conversion Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:09:16 -0600 Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Cliff, I don't want to throw any water on your project, it sounds like a good one. I used Baer brakes on my front end. Quite possibly it's the size of the calipers that make the difference but with their 12 brakes they require a 16 wheel w/0 offset. They said most 16 wheels would work (15 would NOT work) but they had no list of which 16 would and/or would not work; it depended on the offset of the wheel (not the backspace) and the thickness of the rim. I opted for the 13 Track system since I was going with 17 wheels anyway. All of their systems bolt to stock spindles (like mine did with my 67) and have all brackets, bolts, master cylinder, etc. I did have to order an adjustable proportioning valve as a separate item and make up a couple of lines to fit it in. Naturally, everyone has their own choice of disc sizes, brands, etc. but the 13 system was only $10 more than the 12 system they have and, as I said, I was going to use 17 wheels anyway so I opted for the larger setup. Then I sprung for the polished calipers, slotted/drilled/zinc dipped rotors... :*) Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com The first guy said I need at least a 15x8 rim for the 12 rotors to fit, and the second guy said that they will work with the 15x7's with (worst case scenario) some minor caliper machining. Does anyone else have experience with this kit, or any other 12 kit out there using 15 wheels? I know several of you out there are using 12 front rotors, and I thought at least one person had them with 15 rims (Rodney in AZ?). Any advice/problems encountered/experiences with this or any similar kits (or 12 rotors in general) would be greatly appreciated. TIA. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] [Chevelle] disc brake conversion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Anyone have a phone# or website for Baer? TIA. I have been considering using the Baer 4 disc brake system on my car. How much did the kit cost you and do you think i could get a kit to adapt to 2 drop spindles. Also what made you decide on the Track system. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] [Chevelle] disc brake conversion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Cliff, I check the usual suppliers, SSB, MP Brakes, etc. Baer units would bolt to existing spindles so I didn't have to break ball joints loose. Most kits were in the $795 to $895 range and the Baer system was $985; a bit more but they also offered the option of the polished caliper and the drilled/slotted/zinc washed rotors. Others may have as well, but didn't see it anywhere or their site was too difficult to find it. Also, the proportioning valve was NOT included in the price, it was another $50 or so but it's adjustable. I got mine through a friend/dealer in Wichita Falls, Tx and it all cost me $1200 (retail is $985 plus $140 (?) for zinc washed/drilled/slotted rotors plus $120 (?) for polished calipers, and $50 for the prop valve) so I got a little bit of a break. The 13 Track system was only $10 more than the 12 Sport system. A no-brainer there. The 12 system would allow the fit of most (not all) 16 wheels and there is no tried and true method except trial-and-error. Since I used 17 wheels, I'd have clearance even with the 13 brakes. While it's true that replacement pads, rotors, and calipers may not be off-the-shelf items, the pads should last a good, lng time and Baer has been around long enough that I feel confident other replacement or rebuild parts will be available when the time comes. Their URL is http://www.baer.com and have brochures and application guides available in Adobe Reader (.PDF) format you can easily download. I don't know why they kits would not fit any dropped spindles but I'd give them a call for any custom applications and get their recommendations. They are located in Phoenix and their phone is (602) 233-1411. There is a contact page at http://www.baer.com/contact.shtm you can fill in the info you have and comments. They were very good at getting back to me. Installation was a simple bolt-on. Removed front drums and hubs as one assembly, bolted on new hub, adapter brackets for calipers, a simple RR of the master cylinder (included with kit), replaced old rubber brake lines with supplied braided lines, bled MC and brakes. I did plumb in the adj prop valve on the inside of the frame and also added a Line Loc from Hurst so there was a bit more plumbing than usual. Everything they supplied fit like a champ and not much more work than a normal brake job. Dale Dale, I have been considering using the Baer 4 disc brake system on my car. How much did the kit cost you and do you think i could get a kit to adapt to 2 drop spindles. Also what made you decide on the Track system. Thanks Michael From: 396guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] [Chevelle] disc brake conversion Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:09:16 -0600 Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Cliff, I don't want to throw any water on your project, it sounds like a good one. I used Baer brakes on my front end. Quite possibly it's the size of the calipers that make the difference but with their 12 brakes they require a 16 wheel w/0 offset. They said most 16 wheels would work (15 would NOT work) but they had no list of which 16 would and/or would not work; it depended on the offset of the wheel (not the backspace) and the thickness of the rim. I opted for the 13 Track system since I was going with 17 wheels anyway. All of their systems bolt to stock spindles (like mine did with my 67) and have all brackets, bolts, master cylinder, etc. I did have to order an adjustable proportioning valve as a separate item and make up a couple of lines to fit it in. Naturally, everyone has their own choice of disc sizes, brands, etc. but the 13 system was only $10 more than the 12 system they have and, as I said, I was going to use 17 wheels anyway so I opted for the larger setup. Then I sprung for the polished calipers, slotted/drilled/zinc dipped rotors... :*) Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com The first guy said I need at least a 15x8 rim for the 12 rotors to fit, and the second guy said that they will work with the 15x7's with (worst case scenario) some minor caliper machining. Does anyone else have experience with this kit, or any other 12 kit out there using 15 wheels? I know several of you out there are using 12 front rotors, and I thought at least one person had them with 15 rims (Rodney in AZ?). Any advice/problems encountered/experiences with this or any similar kits (or 12 rotors in general) would be greatly appreciated. TIA. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL
RE: [Chevelle-List] [Chevelle] disc brake conversion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Cliff, I don't know much about the SSB 12 kit, but I'm running the Hotchkis/GW style disc brake upgrade, using B-body spindles, 12 Rotors, etc, and my 15x7 Rally wheels fit fine. -Dave, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Clifford E Klimas Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] [Chevelle] disc brake conversion Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey List - Well, since my 427 SBC project looks like it won't be done anytime soon, I've decided to upgrade my Chevelle to a 4-wheel disc brake system while it is still in the shop. I've been looking at kits from Master Power Brakes, Global West and Stainless Steel Brakes, and I've pretty much decided to go with the SSB kit with 12 front rotors and 10.5 rears. The SSB kit uses the original drum brake spindles, which is good because I don't want the ride height of the car to change. It also has an adjustable proportioning valve that a lot of the other kits on the market don't have. Problem is, I want to be at least *reasonably* sure that the 12 rotors will fit with my 15x7 SS cragars. I called the tech line twice, and of course I got 2 different answers! The first guy said I need at least a 15x8 rim for the 12 rotors to fit, and the second guy said that they will work with the 15x7's with (worst case scenario) some minor caliper machining. Does anyone else have experience with this kit, or any other 12 kit out there using 15 wheels? I know several of you out there are using 12 front rotors, and I thought at least one person had them with 15 rims (Rodney in AZ?). Any advice/problems encountered/experiences with this or any similar kits (or 12 rotors in general) would be greatly appreciated. TIA. Cliff Klimas Hamilton, NJ (Post Office still closed) '71 Chevelle (maybe I'll get it back by spring?) '88 CSC (looks/sounds/rides/handles great but I need MORE POWER!!!) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] [Chevelle] disc brake conversion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Thanks for the info. I've decided to take a little more time and check out some other companies as well (Baer, Wilwood, etc.). I've got PLENTY of time sigh, so I might as well take my time and get as much info as possible before making a final decision. I think I might pop for some more goodies too - powder coated calipers, zinc dipping, etc. grin I don't want to throw any water on your project, it sounds like a good one. I used Baer brakes on my front end. Quite possibly it's the size of the calipers that make the difference but with their 12 brakes they require a 16 wheel w/0 offset. All of their systems bolt to stock spindles (like mine did with my 67) and have all brackets, bolts, master cylinder, etc. Then I sprung for the polished calipers, slotted/drilled/zinc dipped rotors... :*) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] [Chevelle] disc brake conversion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Cliff, I don't want to throw any water on your project, it sounds like a good one. I used Baer brakes on my front end. Quite possibly it's the size of the calipers that make the difference but with their 12 brakes they require a 16 wheel w/0 offset. They said most 16 wheels would work (15 would NOT work) but they had no list of which 16 would and/or would not work; it depended on the offset of the wheel (not the backspace) and the thickness of the rim. I opted for the 13 Track system since I was going with 17 wheels anyway. All of their systems bolt to stock spindles (like mine did with my 67) and have all brackets, bolts, master cylinder, etc. I did have to order an adjustable proportioning valve as a separate item and make up a couple of lines to fit it in. Naturally, everyone has their own choice of disc sizes, brands, etc. but the 13 system was only $10 more than the 12 system they have and, as I said, I was going to use 17 wheels anyway so I opted for the larger setup. Then I sprung for the polished calipers, slotted/drilled/zinc dipped rotors... :*) Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com The first guy said I need at least a 15x8 rim for the 12 rotors to fit, and the second guy said that they will work with the 15x7's with (worst case scenario) some minor caliper machining. Does anyone else have experience with this kit, or any other 12 kit out there using 15 wheels? I know several of you out there are using 12 front rotors, and I thought at least one person had them with 15 rims (Rodney in AZ?). Any advice/problems encountered/experiences with this or any similar kits (or 12 rotors in general) would be greatly appreciated. TIA. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] [Chevelle] disc brake conversion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey Cliff, I'm using 12 1LE's from Global West, but I've got Crager Keystone Klassics 15x8's all the way around. I didn't have a problem. There's about 1/2 between the caliper and the rim. I'll send you a couple of pics. Hope that helps. Rodney. 71 Chevelle Phoenix, AZ - Original Message - From: Clifford E Klimas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] [Chevelle] disc brake conversion Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey List - Well, since my 427 SBC project looks like it won't be done anytime soon, I've decided to upgrade my Chevelle to a 4-wheel disc brake system while it is still in the shop. I've been looking at kits from Master Power Brakes, Global West and Stainless Steel Brakes, and I've pretty much decided to go with the SSB kit with 12 front rotors and 10.5 rears. The SSB kit uses the original drum brake spindles, which is good because I don't want the ride height of the car to change. It also has an adjustable proportioning valve that a lot of the other kits on the market don't have. Problem is, I want to be at least *reasonably* sure that the 12 rotors will fit with my 15x7 SS cragars. I called the tech line twice, and of course I got 2 different answers! The first guy said I need at least a 15x8 rim for the 12 rotors to fit, and the second guy said that they will work with the 15x7's with (worst case scenario) some minor caliper machining. Does anyone else have experience with this kit, or any other 12 kit out there using 15 wheels? I know several of you out there are using 12 front rotors, and I thought at least one person had them with 15 rims (Rodney in AZ?). Any advice/problems encountered/experiences with this or any similar kits (or 12 rotors in general) would be greatly appreciated. TIA. Cliff Klimas Hamilton, NJ (Post Office still closed) '71 Chevelle (maybe I'll get it back by spring?) '88 CSC (looks/sounds/rides/handles great but I need MORE POWER!!!) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
