RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Naa! Just tell her those were the tires that the originals were superceded to. ha ha ha. >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:44:40 -0500 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >I'm game! Do ya she'll notice the 50 series rubber hangin out past the >fenders?? *laugh* > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 6:14 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >How bout one of those 455 toronado and front wheel drive trannies to smoke >those front tires off the rims. Oh guess the wife wouldnt think the same of >it as the rest of us would. Just a thought. >Brian Zack >'70 Chevelle Malibu > > > >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:15:49 -0500 > > > >Speaking of being cooked - I'm having S**T for luck - Just changed the >oil > >in my wife's car, It looked like fudge swirl Looks like I'm cutting >up > >her saturn to accept a big block.... > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:06 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > > > > > > Sounds like you cooked them :) > > >_ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I'm game! Do ya she'll notice the 50 series rubber hangin out past the fenders?? *laugh* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 6:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List How bout one of those 455 toronado and front wheel drive trannies to smoke those front tires off the rims. Oh guess the wife wouldnt think the same of it as the rest of us would. Just a thought. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:15:49 -0500 > >Speaking of being cooked - I'm having S**T for luck - Just changed the oil >in my wife's car, It looked like fudge swirl Looks like I'm cutting up >her saturn to accept a big block > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > > > Sounds like you cooked them :) _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List How bout one of those 455 toronado and front wheel drive trannies to smoke those front tires off the rims. Oh guess the wife wouldnt think the same of it as the rest of us would. Just a thought. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:15:49 -0500 > >Speaking of being cooked - I'm having S**T for luck - Just changed the oil >in my wife's car, It looked like fudge swirl Looks like I'm cutting up >her saturn to accept a big block > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > > > Sounds like you cooked them :) _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Sorry Brian - my mistake - I was actually referring to I.M Shrejk about the overheat issue -- i.e: "One blew a lower radiator hose and my son didn't shut it off until steam started coming out under the car." Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List The motor never overheated. It hasn't gotten over 200 degrees. It has a small trace of smoke when it idles out of one side and it will let out a puff of smoke when it has been driven, Ishut it off, and come back and start it again. Brian Zack'70 Chevelle Malibu. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Speaking of being cooked - I'm having S**T for luck - Just changed the oil in my wife's car, It looked like fudge swirl Looks like I'm cutting up her saturn to accept a big block -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:06 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsionSounds like you cooked them :)
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RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List The motor never overheated. It hasn't gotten over 200 degrees. It has a small trace of smoke when it idles out of one side and it will let out a puff of smoke when it has been driven, Ishut it off, and come back and start it again. Brian Zack'70 Chevelle Malibu. >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:54:13 -0500 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Ouch - I think you're dead on the mark with regards to the rings. >If the motor got that hot, I surprized the head gaskets are still intact. >You could use a ball hone to break the glaze on the cylinder bores and add >a >new set of rings...assuming that you want to go that far... > >It's also pretty realistic that the valve seals are failing as well. Does >it >smoke when you start it? > >I'm in the process of replacing the heads on my 383 smblk. It never >overheated, but one cast iron head actually rotted thru and started leaking >on number 5 cylinder last week. Bought a pair of Aluminum Perform RPM 64 >cc'd heads \new RPM intake and am trashing the old castings - > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of I. M. Shrejk >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:56 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >I am sorry, but I have not been following the "oil consumption" topic that >closely. However, some of the recent answers started me wondering about >the >two Oldsmobiles I also own. Both are the "Y" type 307 CID engines. If >anyone has owned one of these they know they run forever. These are >everyday drivers. > >Anyway, in both cases, the engines started excessive oil burning after >overheating. One blew a lower radiator hose and my son didn't shut it off >until steam started coming out under the car. > >In the other case, I was cruising along the interstate and my temperature >guage started climbing and ended up in the red zone. I shut it off when I >noticed a leak in the thermostat gasket. I bought a couple gallons of >Prestone which got me to my destination. Again, I stopped when the temp >climbed into the red area and added 50:50 antifreeze to the overfill tank. > >My conclusion was that the rings were shot so I just keep putting oil in as >required. Before these disasters, I could go 2000 miles without adding >oil. > Now it is a quart every 300 to 500 miles depending upon the type of >driving. > >Does anyone think that this could be something as simple as worn valve >seals? If so, is there any way to inspect them or check them without >removing the springs? > > > >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:33:31 -0500 > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > > >Hey Brian - > >Yup, I believe Fel-Pro or Sealed-Power has them. Perfect Circle (P&C) is > >another. Just make sure you match them to your valve stem diameter. They > >usually fit inside the spring with plenty of cleareance. Lastly If your >are > >going to an umbrella style, I would discard the steel shield that goes > >under > >the retainer, and add a shim of the same thickness to maintain the corret > >seat pressure with the valve closed...Hopes this helps... > > > >Nick > > >. > >_ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Ouch - I think you're dead on the mark with regards to the rings. If the motor got that hot, I surprized the head gaskets are still intact. You could use a ball hone to break the glaze on the cylinder bores and add a new set of rings...assuming that you want to go that far... It's also pretty realistic that the valve seals are failing as well. Does it smoke when you start it? I'm in the process of replacing the heads on my 383 smblk. It never overheated, but one cast iron head actually rotted thru and started leaking on number 5 cylinder last week. Bought a pair of Aluminum Perform RPM 64 cc'd heads \new RPM intake and am trashing the old castings - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of I. M. Shrejk Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I am sorry, but I have not been following the "oil consumption" topic that closely. However, some of the recent answers started me wondering about the two Oldsmobiles I also own. Both are the "Y" type 307 CID engines. If anyone has owned one of these they know they run forever. These are everyday drivers. Anyway, in both cases, the engines started excessive oil burning after overheating. One blew a lower radiator hose and my son didn't shut it off until steam started coming out under the car. In the other case, I was cruising along the interstate and my temperature guage started climbing and ended up in the red zone. I shut it off when I noticed a leak in the thermostat gasket. I bought a couple gallons of Prestone which got me to my destination. Again, I stopped when the temp climbed into the red area and added 50:50 antifreeze to the overfill tank. My conclusion was that the rings were shot so I just keep putting oil in as required. Before these disasters, I could go 2000 miles without adding oil. Now it is a quart every 300 to 500 miles depending upon the type of driving. Does anyone think that this could be something as simple as worn valve seals? If so, is there any way to inspect them or check them without removing the springs? >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:33:31 -0500 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Hey Brian - >Yup, I believe Fel-Pro or Sealed-Power has them. Perfect Circle (P&C) is >another. Just make sure you match them to your valve stem diameter. They >usually fit inside the spring with plenty of cleareance. Lastly If your are >going to an umbrella style, I would discard the steel shield that goes >under >the retainer, and add a shim of the same thickness to maintain the corret >seat pressure with the valve closed...Hopes this helps... > >Nick > . _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List no problem - Good luck!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Nick Thanks for the help. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Nick Thanks for the help. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I am sorry, but I have not been following the "oil consumption" topic that closely. However, some of the recent answers started me wondering about the two Oldsmobiles I also own. Both are the "Y" type 307 CID engines. If anyone has owned one of these they know they run forever. These are everyday drivers. Anyway, in both cases, the engines started excessive oil burning after overheating. One blew a lower radiator hose and my son didn't shut it off until steam started coming out under the car. In the other case, I was cruising along the interstate and my temperature guage started climbing and ended up in the red zone. I shut it off when I noticed a leak in the thermostat gasket. I bought a couple gallons of Prestone which got me to my destination. Again, I stopped when the temp climbed into the red area and added 50:50 antifreeze to the overfill tank. My conclusion was that the rings were shot so I just keep putting oil in as required. Before these disasters, I could go 2000 miles without adding oil. Now it is a quart every 300 to 500 miles depending upon the type of driving. Does anyone think that this could be something as simple as worn valve seals? If so, is there any way to inspect them or check them without removing the springs? >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:33:31 -0500 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Hey Brian - >Yup, I believe Fel-Pro or Sealed-Power has them. Perfect Circle (P&C) is >another. Just make sure you match them to your valve stem diameter. They >usually fit inside the spring with plenty of cleareance. Lastly If your are >going to an umbrella style, I would discard the steel shield that goes >under >the retainer, and add a shim of the same thickness to maintain the corret >seat pressure with the valve closed...Hopes this helps... > >Nick > . _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey Brian - Yup, I believe Fel-Pro or Sealed-Power has them. Perfect Circle (P&C) is another. Just make sure you match them to your valve stem diameter. They usually fit inside the spring with plenty of cleareance. Lastly If your are going to an umbrella style, I would discard the steel shield that goes under the retainer, and add a shim of the same thickness to maintain the corret seat pressure with the valve closed...Hopes this helps... Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Would I just ask for the umbrella type seals? Or is it from an aftermarket manufacturer. I did use the stock type. I know this because I took each valve out and just cleaned up/polished the rough casting in the intake and exhaust ports and reinstalled it back the way it came out before I put the heads on the engine. >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:08:49 -0500 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Hey Brian - Your Valves seals (if the stock o-ring type) aren't the best >type to use and usually get brittle and fall off. This could be the case >you >have now. The guides are decent, just no seal to keep most of the oil away. >You can always replace them with a late model P&C or umbrella type. The P&C >type are factory one that just slip over the stock valve guide and are held >in place with a steel spring band. The umbrella types just slip over the >valve stem. You can replace them on with the heads on the motor \ while in >the car. It's not complicated, but it is tedious. > >Nick > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:37 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Thanks. I kinda thought that too. I dont know which way the guides were >done. I guess I will find out. Also this morning, I made a point to check >after it was warmed up and I do see a light trace of blue smoke coming out >of one side of the exhaust at idle. If it was still the guides or valve >stem >seals, would it be doing this? > > > >From: "Kent Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > >Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:24:05 -0600 > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > > >Brian, > > > >It sure sounds like the valve guides and/or valve stem seals. Do you > >know if the valve guides were replaced or were they "knurled" ? I have >not > >had much luck with "knurled" valve guides. Once the knurled ridges wear > >down, then the gap between the valve stem and the valve guide is even > >larger, allowing for additional oil consumption. Much better to have the > >valve guides replaced and honed to size, and use quality valve stem >seals. > > > > It doesn't sound like the rings are bad, if they were, you would be > >smoking while driving. What is likely happening is that, when the engine > >is > >shut off, the oil is seeping past the valve stem seals, down the valve, > >into > >the cylinder. Then when the engine is started, you have a brief puff of > >smoke. > > > > Good Luck. > > > >Kent > >'68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) > > > > > > > >- > >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >_ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] &
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Would I just ask for the umbrella type seals? Or is it from an aftermarket manufacturer. I did use the stock type. I know this because I took each valve out and just cleaned up/polished the rough casting in the intake and exhaust ports and reinstalled it back the way it came out before I put the heads on the engine. >From: "nick visciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:08:49 -0500 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Hey Brian - Your Valves seals (if the stock o-ring type) aren't the best >type to use and usually get brittle and fall off. This could be the case >you >have now. The guides are decent, just no seal to keep most of the oil away. >You can always replace them with a late model P&C or umbrella type. The P&C >type are factory one that just slip over the stock valve guide and are held >in place with a steel spring band. The umbrella types just slip over the >valve stem. You can replace them on with the heads on the motor \ while in >the car. It's not complicated, but it is tedious. > >Nick > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:37 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Thanks. I kinda thought that too. I dont know which way the guides were >done. I guess I will find out. Also this morning, I made a point to check >after it was warmed up and I do see a light trace of blue smoke coming out >of one side of the exhaust at idle. If it was still the guides or valve >stem >seals, would it be doing this? > > > >From: "Kent Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion > >Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:24:05 -0600 > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > > >Brian, > > > >It sure sounds like the valve guides and/or valve stem seals. Do you > >know if the valve guides were replaced or were they "knurled" ? I have >not > >had much luck with "knurled" valve guides. Once the knurled ridges wear > >down, then the gap between the valve stem and the valve guide is even > >larger, allowing for additional oil consumption. Much better to have the > >valve guides replaced and honed to size, and use quality valve stem >seals. > > > > It doesn't sound like the rings are bad, if they were, you would be > >smoking while driving. What is likely happening is that, when the engine > >is > >shut off, the oil is seeping past the valve stem seals, down the valve, > >into > >the cylinder. Then when the engine is started, you have a brief puff of > >smoke. > > > > Good Luck. > > > >Kent > >'68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) > > > > > > > >- > >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >_ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey Brian - Your Valves seals (if the stock o-ring type) aren't the best type to use and usually get brittle and fall off. This could be the case you have now. The guides are decent, just no seal to keep most of the oil away. You can always replace them with a late model P&C or umbrella type. The P&C type are factory one that just slip over the stock valve guide and are held in place with a steel spring band. The umbrella types just slip over the valve stem. You can replace them on with the heads on the motor \ while in the car. It's not complicated, but it is tedious. Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Thanks. I kinda thought that too. I dont know which way the guides were done. I guess I will find out. Also this morning, I made a point to check after it was warmed up and I do see a light trace of blue smoke coming out of one side of the exhaust at idle. If it was still the guides or valve stem seals, would it be doing this? >From: "Kent Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:24:05 -0600 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Brian, > >It sure sounds like the valve guides and/or valve stem seals. Do you >know if the valve guides were replaced or were they "knurled" ? I have not >had much luck with "knurled" valve guides. Once the knurled ridges wear >down, then the gap between the valve stem and the valve guide is even >larger, allowing for additional oil consumption. Much better to have the >valve guides replaced and honed to size, and use quality valve stem seals. > > It doesn't sound like the rings are bad, if they were, you would be >smoking while driving. What is likely happening is that, when the engine >is >shut off, the oil is seeping past the valve stem seals, down the valve, >into >the cylinder. Then when the engine is started, you have a brief puff of >smoke. > > Good Luck. > >Kent >'68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) > > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Thanks. I kinda thought that too. I dont know which way the guides were done. I guess I will find out. Also this morning, I made a point to check after it was warmed up and I do see a light trace of blue smoke coming out of one side of the exhaust at idle. If it was still the guides or valve stem seals, would it be doing this? >From: "Kent Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion >Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:24:05 -0600 > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Brian, > >It sure sounds like the valve guides and/or valve stem seals. Do you >know if the valve guides were replaced or were they "knurled" ? I have not >had much luck with "knurled" valve guides. Once the knurled ridges wear >down, then the gap between the valve stem and the valve guide is even >larger, allowing for additional oil consumption. Much better to have the >valve guides replaced and honed to size, and use quality valve stem seals. > > It doesn't sound like the rings are bad, if they were, you would be >smoking while driving. What is likely happening is that, when the engine >is >shut off, the oil is seeping past the valve stem seals, down the valve, >into >the cylinder. Then when the engine is started, you have a brief puff of >smoke. > > Good Luck. > >Kent >'68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) > > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] oil consumpsion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Brian, It sure sounds like the valve guides and/or valve stem seals. Do you know if the valve guides were replaced or were they "knurled" ? I have not had much luck with "knurled" valve guides. Once the knurled ridges wear down, then the gap between the valve stem and the valve guide is even larger, allowing for additional oil consumption. Much better to have the valve guides replaced and honed to size, and use quality valve stem seals. It doesn't sound like the rings are bad, if they were, you would be smoking while driving. What is likely happening is that, when the engine is shut off, the oil is seeping past the valve stem seals, down the valve, into the cylinder. Then when the engine is started, you have a brief puff of smoke. Good Luck. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
