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I have a 65 GTO and it broke my heart to see this at the auto show. Its ugly and small. The ford looks great Don Belt[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wideopenwest.com/~dbelt/ - Original Message - From: Crazy Rusty To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 2:03 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs What do you guys think of the new designs for the 2004 Ford Mustang and Pontiac GTO? Is it just me or did they totally scored with the styling of the mustang but Pontiac missed big time with the goat. http://autos.msn.com/vip/futureoverview.aspx?type=make=num=20src=""> Crazy Rusty www.crazyrusty.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Don, That's one good looking GTO! Keep us posted on the Chevelle and good luck. Rich -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of DonSent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 1:49 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs I have a 65 GTO and it broke my heart to see this at the auto show. Its ugly and small. The ford looks great Don Belt[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wideopenwest.com/~dbelt/ - Original Message - From: Crazy Rusty To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 2:03 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs What do you guys think of the new designs for the 2004 Ford Mustang and Pontiac GTO? Is it just me or did they totally scored with the styling of the mustang but Pontiac missed big time with the goat. http://autos.msn.com/vip/futureoverview.aspx?type=make=num=20src=""> Crazy Rusty www.crazyrusty.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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or RWD chevy cavalier - Original Message - From: Chad P. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs you took the words outta my mouth. Ford is really doing good with their retro designs and stuff, looking more and more like the classics, retaining that muscle car look. Pontiacoh boytheir GTO can be described in one word...U-G-L-Y! Chad - Original Message - From: Crazy Rusty To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 3:03 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs What do you guys think of the new designs for the 2004 Ford Mustang and Pontiac GTO? Is it just me or did they totally scored with the styling of the mustang but Pontiac missed big time with the goat. http://autos.msn.com/vip/futureoverview.aspx?type=make=num=20src=""> Crazy Rusty www.crazyrusty.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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you took the words outta my mouth. Ford is really doing good with their retro designs and stuff, looking more and more like the classics, retaining that muscle car look. Pontiacoh boytheir GTO can be described in one word...U-G-L-Y! Chad - Original Message - From: Crazy Rusty To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 3:03 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs What do you guys think of the new designs for the 2004 Ford Mustang and Pontiac GTO? Is it just me or did they totally scored with the styling of the mustang but Pontiac missed big time with the goat. http://autos.msn.com/vip/futureoverview.aspx?type=make=num=20src=""> Crazy Rusty www.crazyrusty.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Last I saw, the GTO was nothing more than a Grand Am w/GTO badges on it.. 8^[ I just can't understand how domestic car producers ruled the world in muscle and sports car design for 30 years, and now they can't even design one car that meets the old criteria successfully (save the 'Vette, Viper, and Prowler). People at work are a bunch of yuppie wanna-be's and always ask me why I wanted to restore such an old heap and I tell them 1. it was a great learning experience for me and 2. Beamer's suck. Jim '66 Malibu --- Chad P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you took the words outta my mouth. Ford is really doing good with their retro designs and stuff, looking more and more like the classics, retaining that muscle car look. Pontiacoh boytheir GTO can be described in one word...U-G-L-Y! Chad - Original Message - From: Crazy Rusty To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 3:03 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs What do you guys think of the new designs for the 2004 Ford Mustang and Pontiac GTO? Is it just me or did they totally scored with the styling of the mustang but Pontiac missed big time with the goat. http://autos.msn.com/vip/futureoverview.aspx?type=make=num=20src=vip Crazy Rusty www.crazyrusty.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oh and by the way... that funky SRT wagon there is a reality!!! A buddy of mine was out in michigan for a snowmobile design competition that is affiliated with the local Auto engineering program here and he said they are running the road course in these bad boys all covered up in bras. Oh a station wagon is so much better then a minivan :)
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All I can say is I hate the new car styling for 80% of the cars complete from the teardrop look to the fugly alzetta look-a-like rear tail lights and even uglier bright as the sun headlights. I have to admit the 2005 Mustang Design is sweet! Now if they can only get that supercharged Cobra motor to stop eating cams and head gaskets(Ford still has yet to deal with the redesign/engineering of the oiling system through the head). I think while the f-body is on the down Ford is really goona go all out to get the performance people. Kinda a dumb move by GM but they knew with out a creative redesign of the f-body it would never be able to compete with the mustang line which is full of performance and fresh looks. The Mach ones complete with shaker hood and 300 hp are a great and of course 390 hp under the hood of the Cobra is awsome, especially when aside from the oiling problems the bottom ends are taking 900 hp untouched! Only two motors rivaling that in terms of stoutness from the factory are probably the 2JZ's in the Supras and the new New SRT4 motor (did I mention I love this car... 190hp of turbo power for 20 grand! Too bad the front is still neon ugly). Last tid bit from Ford is the Lightning... my buddy has a 2003 and with only a chip and pulley change he hit high twelves on the stock goodyear radial tires (amazing thing is 1.9-ish sixties in a stock suspension truck!!!)! That is very impressive, and supposedly a 500 hp model from the factory for 2005 that is similar in design to the new Cobra setup. The GTO is a great concept V8 power available with a manual, 2 doors, and a back seat that is actually usable! BUT... like most people say... it is just a slightly changed Grand Prix which is lame. The Grand Am and the Grand Prix are already damn near identical. One thing that has remained more on the down low is the plans for the Bonneville. Am I the only one that really like these cars? I believe the special edition is gonna be called the GXP or something like that, but it is gonna be pretty powerful. They also are gonna supposedly gonna start sticking V8 power under the hood via a Northstar design which should really be nice. GM's eco-tech is a nice piece of work as well... now they ned to step up to the times and get a turbo on that baby and maybe drop her in an awd chassis. All in all the looks might not be that appealing to me, but the performance, reliability, and economy of today's cars is top notch. Enough of my mini-noval... Mikey - Original Message - From: Crazy Rusty Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 2:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs What do you guys think of the new designs for the 2004 Ford Mustang and Pontiac GTO? Is it just me or did they totally scored with the styling of the mustang but Pontiac missed big time with the goat. http://autos.msn.com/vip/futureoverview.aspx?type=make=num=20src=""> Crazy Rusty www.crazyrusty.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Now...Nowwe MUST call it by it'sNameand Classification. It's a Dodge Magnum SRT 8 and it's a Sports Wagon I'm a Dodge Customer Relations Manager at a Dealership in Orlando..and YES it's Reality! http://4adodge.com Johnnie.a "Dodge Boy" who knows what kind of car to OWN! ' 72 Chevelle SS "Cheaptrick" Team Chevelle # 145 -- Original Message - From: Capt Crunch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs Oh and by the way... that funky SRT wagon there is a reality!!! A buddy of mine was out in michigan for a snowmobile design competition that is affiliated with the local Auto engineering program here and he said they are running the road course in these bad boys all covered up in bras. Oh a station wagon is so much better then a minivan :)
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UGLY? Looks like any other import orr it even has kind of a F**d Mustang look. Isn't your dad the Mustang fan Chad? Larry (Z)
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From: Capt Crunch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 08:58:24 -0500 more on the down low is the plans for the Bonneville. Am I the only one that really like these cars? I believe the special edition is gonna be called the GXP or something like that, but it is gonna be pretty powerful. They also are gonna supposedly gonna start sticking V8 power under the hood via a Northstar design which should really be nice. GM's eco-tech is Latest word I've heard (through a friend) from Pontiac is that the GXP is indeed going to replace the Bonneville for 2004 and the engine's a 280 HP V-8. Should be a lot of fun. Brad O. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What 30 years were those? Mid 50's to early 70's is all I can recall. my opinion America (domestics) didn't build cars from about 1973-1985. Oh there were a few but not many. Larry (Z)
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I don't remeber the offical details on if the engine for the gxp was gonna be a V8 or supercharged 6, but I do know that it is schedulled to replace the current SSEi supercharged model. I personally love those cars... If I was a family guy I would have one for a family truckster. - Original Message - From: Colt Seavers Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 9:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs From: "Capt Crunch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designsDate: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 08:58:24 -0500more on the down low is the plans for the Bonneville. Am I the only onethat really like these cars? I believe the special edition is gonna becalled the GXP or something like that, but it is gonna be pretty powerful.They also are gonna supposedly gonna start sticking V8 power under thehood via a Northstar design which should really be nice. GM's eco-tech isLatest word I've heard (through a friend) from Pontiac is that the GXP isindeed going to replace the Bonneville for 2004 and the engine's a 280 HPV-8. Should be a lot of fun.Brad O.-To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.htmlTo start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey guys, the new GXP is in the new car and driver book, It's semi quick, does 15's in the qrt mile. It's a nice looking car. Chad - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs I don't remeber the offical details on if the engine for the gxp was gonna be a V8 or supercharged 6, but I do know that it is schedulled to replace the current SSEi supercharged model. I personally love those cars... If I was a family guy I would have one for a family truckster. - Original Message - From: Colt Seavers Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 9:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs From: "Capt Crunch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designsDate: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 08:58:24 -0500more on the down low is the plans for the Bonneville. Am I the only onethat really like these cars? I believe the special edition is gonna becalled the GXP or something like that, but it is gonna be pretty powerful.They also are gonna supposedly gonna start sticking V8 power under thehood via a Northstar design which should really be nice. GM's eco-tech isLatest word I've heard (through a friend) from Pontiac is that the GXP isindeed going to replace the Bonneville for 2004 and the engine's a 280 HPV-8. Should be a lot of fun.Brad O.-To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.htmlTo start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My dad is a huge mustang fan. His car is very rare, 1993 GT 5 spd. Do me a favor, and try to find one on ebay, you won't..I haven't found one for 3 months! you see mustangs all the time, but not '93 GT's, only 26,000 were made, and with my dad's options, maybe 5,000 were made. Yes, every import is ugly, I don't like them, expessically when people modify them. But the mustangs aren't imports, and they are american made. Do me a favor and keep off the stupid remarks about my dad owning a mustang. ;-) See ya later Larry. Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs UGLY? Looks like any other import orr it even has kind of a F**d Mustang look. Isn't your dad the Mustang fan Chad? Larry (Z)
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I dont think Larry said anything directly about your dad, Chad. He just asked. Lets not everyone get all hurt. Chill. Brian Zack'70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com-Original Message-From: Chad P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 11:56 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs My dad is a huge mustang fan. His car is very rare, 1993 GT 5 spd. Do me a favor, and try to find one on ebay, you won't..I haven't found one for 3 months! you see mustangs all the time, but not '93 GT's, only 26,000 were made, and with my dad's options, maybe 5,000 were made. Yes, every import is ugly, I don't like them, expessically when people modify them. But the mustangs aren't imports, and they are american made. Do me a favor and keep off the stupid remarks about my dad owning a mustang. ;-) See ya later Larry. Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs UGLY? Looks like any other import orr it even has kind of a F**d Mustang look. Isn't your dad the Mustang fan Chad? Larry (Z)
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From: Capt Crunch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 10:50:25 -0500 I don't remeber the offical details on if the engine for the gxp was gonna be a V8 or supercharged 6, but I do know that it is schedulled to replace the current SSEi supercharged model. I personally love those cars... If I was a family guy I would have one for a family truckster. I'll sell you my '95 SSEi but you'll have to get the family on your own! ;^) Brad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My 98 Grand Prix GTP ran 14.5 @ 95. (on a 40 degree day). The supercharged cars are plenty strong out of the box. I think a new s/c pulley and exhaust and chip gets you in the 13s. Its just a shame its FWD. I like the look of the 97-03 Grand Prixs, but not the Grand Am, and the new GTO is a big styling disappointment to me, although the hardware sure looks good on paper. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Chad P. Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs Hey guys, the new GXP is in the new car and driver book, It's semi quick, does 15's in the qrt mile. It's a nice looking car. Chad - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs I don't remeber the offical details on if the engine for the gxp was gonna be a V8 or supercharged 6, but I do know that it is schedulled to replace the current SSEi supercharged model. I personally love those cars... If I was a family guy I would have one for a family truckster. - Original Message - From: Colt Seavers Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 9:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs From: Capt Crunch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Off-Topic - new car designs Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 08:58:24 -0500 more on the down low is the plans for the Bonneville. Am I the only one that really like these cars? I believe the special edition is gonna be called the GXP or something like that, but it is gonna be pretty powerful. They also are gonna supposedly gonna start sticking V8 power under the hood via a Northstar design which should really be nice. GM's eco-tech is Latest word I've heard (through a friend) from Pontiac is that the GXP is indeed going to replace the Bonneville for 2004 and the engine's a 280 HP V-8. Should be a lot of fun. Brad O. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In a message dated 6/7/2003 1:57:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My dad is a huge mustang fan. His car is very rare, 1993 GT 5 spd. Do me a favor, and try to find one on ebay, you won't..I haven't found one for 3 months! you see mustangs all the time, but not '93 GT's, only 26,000 were made, and with my dad's options, maybe 5,000 were made. Yes, every import is ugly, I don't like them, expessically when people modify them. But the mustangs aren't imports, and they are american made. Do me a favor and keep off the stupid remarks about my dad owning a mustang. ;-) See ya later Larry. I don't see where Larry made any stupid remarks. Also I just may add that 93 Mustang GT's are not rare. A production total of 26,000 does not make a car rare. An example of a rare car would be a 1970 L89 convertible Chevelle or a 1970 Dodge Challenger with a 426 Hemi/4 speed painted Plum Crazy or a 69 Cougar Eliminator. Tom
