[chromium-dev] Re: Mozilla design challenge

2009-07-31 Thread Ben Laurie

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Brian Rakowskibr...@chromium.org wrote:
 The most promising things I found from the design challenge were the history
 view in Favitabs n' Drawers (see attached image). The cool thing about it
 is that it shows how long the tabs were open. I find other history views
 that only show the time at which the page was loaded very unintuitive.
 I also still like the idea of to read tabs. The challenge is finding a
 simple gesture that would allow users to identify tabs or links that should
 go in the to read queue. I feel like this would dramatically cut down on
 the number of open tabs and also remove my fear of losing interesting pages
 that I wanted to get back to.

There's a plugin for FF called Taboo that kinda does this. But I
haven't found it hugely compelling - the experience needs to be a bit
smoother.

One thing that occurred to me just now is to be able to tick tabs as
well as cross (i.e. close) them. A ticked tab would go onto some kind
of temporary bookmark list when closed, so I could easily get it back.
Unticking it would remove it (or maybe just getting it back would
untick it).


 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Linus Upson li...@google.com wrote:

 With a good heuristic, I think it will be very unlikely that we'll kill a
 renderer that has useful state. What are the chances that a tab on a site
 that I don't go to often, and that I opened 30 tabs ago has js/dom state
 that is critical for me? Mobile browsers already euthanize unused
 tabs aggressively. Since so few users have 20+ tabs open at once perhaps we
 can just reset their expectations for what happens if they accumulate a
 large number of tabs. Perhaps the heuristic could be tied to the mythical
 great overflow UI. For all of these heavy users I suspect they would prefer
 chrome to remain zippy fast with large tab sets rather than paging a
 renderer that 99.9% of the time doesn't have any interesting state.
 Linus

 On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Scott Hess sh...@chromium.org wrote:

 I don't think it's reasonable to require the user to specify which
 tabs to suspend, except, perhaps, if we develop a metric for
 power-hungry tabs and expose that.

 I think there is some potential for UI geared towards particular
 use-cases which could be overloaded to also allow more aggressive
 suspend.  For instance, WRT my earlier posting, I would expect my
 pinned tabs to be given stronger priority, and my on-deck-to-read tabs
 to be treated more like preloaded/rendered bookmarks.  There could be
 other UI advantages in there, like the on-deck tabs for a particular
 project could group under a single tab with other UI widgets to select
 which document within the group.

 -scott


 On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Ryosuke Niwarn...@google.com wrote:
  Is it possible to provide an intuitive UI that allows users to choose
  which
  tabs to be suspended?
  For example, just like users can click buttons on taskbar to pop up a
  particular window, we could provide a small window that pop-in tabs /
  windows.  And then we can suspend all windows / tab that
  are popped into.
  Ryosuke
 
  On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Erik Kay erik...@chromium.org wrote:
 
  You may be on to something, but I think it's more complex than this.
   For
  example bookmark systems don't work because people use them for a
  number of
  conflicting purposes (my list of things to read every day, a simple
  history
  system, a 'to read' list, a collection of links for research), which
  have
  different UI requirements.  I think the same thing has happened with
  tabs
  (and there's a surprising amount of overlap).  Here are the use cases
  I know
  I wind up using:
  - a few long running apps that need to keep running, potentially
  notifying
  me of new events (calendar, mail, chat, buildbot, etc.)
  - a few pages that I'm currently actively using (a screenshot from a
  bug
  I'm looking at, some reference documentation, a writely page I'm
  editing
  between compiles, etc.)
  - a to read list of pages that I started reading but didn't finish
  yet
  (sometimes this is a collection of related pages when researching
  something)
  - I'm sure there are others.
  In my use case, 80% of my tabs could easily be killed / suspended (or
  even
  hidden altogether) without any downside to me.  The problem is that
  there
  isn't a way to automatically figure out which ones are which.  Which
  ones
  have pending state that might be lost? (yes, some of this is bad app
  design,
  but there are many like this)  Which ones do I expect to keep running
  all of
  the time because of notifications?  What about that flash game that I
  left
  running in the background?
  Maybe we could come up with some heuristics that could detect some of
  this
  automatically, but I worry that there will be so many exceptions that
  it
  won't work.  That means we'd need to come up with a better UI to
  express
  these concepts where the user chose to treat tabs 

[chromium-dev] Re: gcl upload can't support proxy

2009-07-31 Thread Marc-Antoine Ruel
Python's urllib looks at the HTTP_PROXY environment variable. Try setting it
before using gcl.
Official doc:
http://docs.python.org/library/urllib.html

http://docs.python.org/library/urllib.htmlM-A

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Evan Martin e...@chromium.org wrote:


 The proxy suggestion already provided is your best bet.  But if you
 can't make that work, I believe you can create reviews on
 codereview.chromium.org by uploading a patch file using your browser.

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:34 AM, empriserxueyunl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  HI, All,  I access internet through a http proxy, and the other
  protocol like https, ftp also use this http proxy.
  I found that I can't gcl upload when I under the proxy.
  Could you please help me ?
  Thanks.
  
 

 


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[chromium-dev] Re: gyp scons generator temporary glitch

2009-07-31 Thread Paweł Hajdan Jr .
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 18:52, Evan Martin e...@chromium.org wrote:

 For now you can pass the mode flag to make it work:
  hammer --mode=Debug


This worked for me. Thanks. Easier than manually rolling back DEPS.

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[chromium-dev] Re: Question about chromium sandbox on Mac OSX

2009-07-31 Thread Jeremy Moskovich
If you're just doing this for debugging purposes, an easier route would be
to pass in the --no-sandbox flag to temporarily disable the sandbox
entirely, documented here:
http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/debugging-on-os-x

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:00 PM, n179911 n179...@gmail.com wrote:


 Thank you all. I have a better understanding now.

 I just try to log some debug info of the renderer in /tmp that may
 help me understand things better.

 Regards,

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Jeremy Moskovichjer...@chromium.org
 wrote:
  The easiest way would be to add a rule to renderer.sb, the language it
 uses
  is undocumented but very easy to use, you can find the file in the source
  tree.
 
  May I ask why you want the renderer to be able to read/write files in
 /tmp?
 
  Best regards,
  Jeremy
 
  On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:32 PM, n179911 n179...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I would like to change it so that the renderer can create/write file on
  /tmp.
 
  Like this 'kSBXProfileNoWriteExceptTemporary' profile.
 
  On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Jeremy Moskovichjer...@chromium.org
  wrote:
   Is this just out of curiosity?  Is there something specific you're
   trying to
   achieve?
   On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM, n179911 n179...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Jeremy Moskovich
 jer...@chromium.org
   wrote:
Hi,
It would really help if you could provide some details on what your
trying
to do.
Best regards,
Jeremy
   
   From the
  
  
 http://dev.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/sandbox/osx-sandboxing-design
  
   It said In the renderer, we would probably want to use a combination
   of
   kSBXProfileNoNetwork and kSBXProfileNoWrite. If possible, we would
   like to get by with kSBXProfilePureComputation,
  
   I am trying to see what it the current setting in chromium. I can't
   find that in renderer.sb or when sandbox_init() is called. And then
 I
   would want to see if I can switch it to 'kSBXProfilePureComputation'
   and see what may break.
  
   Regards,
  
  
  
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:06 AM, n179911 n179...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   
Thank you. Can you please tell me how can I change the configure
file
(renderer.sb) to use
other sandbox profile, like the one described in man page:
   
  * kSBXProfileNoInternet
  * kSBXProfileNoNetwork
  * kSBXProfileNoWrite
  * kSBXProfileNoWriteExceptTemporary
  * kSBXProfilePureComputation
   
And I did try looking for the sandbox configuration format, but
 this
is the only thing I found, but it does not contain sandbox config
file
format
   
   
   
   
 http://developer.apple.com/DOCUMENTATION/DARWIN/Reference/ManPages/man3/sandbox_init.3.html
   
   
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:21 AM, Thomas Van
Lententhoma...@chromium.org
wrote:
 Those constants are pre-configured settings.  The NAMED_EXTERNAL
 flag
 lets
 us pass in our own config, which is the renderer.sb.  Apple
 hasn't
 really
 documented the file format, but if you do some searching on the
 web,
 you'll
 find some documentation folks have figured out and I believe
 there
 was a
 talk given at one point by some of the Apple folks that work on
 it.
 TVL

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:32 AM, n179911 n179...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 I read this article:





 http://dev.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/sandbox/osx-sandboxing-design

 It said Mac OSX supports five constants for sandbox access
 restrictions:

* kSBXProfileNoInternet
* kSBXProfileNoNetwork
* kSBXProfileNoWrite
* kSBXProfileNoWriteExceptTemporary
* kSBXProfilePureComputation

 In the renderer, we would probably want to use a combination of
 kSBXProfileNoNetwork and kSBXProfileNoWrite. If possible, we
 would
 like to get by with kSBXProfilePureComputation,

 Can you please which access restrictions the renderer of
 chromium
 is
 currently set to?
 I have looked at renderer_main_platform_delegate_mac.mm, which
 I
 believe is how/where chromium set the access restrictions to.
 But
 from
 the code, i can't tell which access restrictions it assigns to
 renderer.

  int error = sandbox_init(sandbox_profile,
 SANDBOX_NAMED_EXTERNAL,
   error_buff);

 And I have looked at the file 'renderer.sb', it does not
 contains
 any
 of the above 5 access restrictions string either.

 Thank you for your help.

 Regards,

 


   
  
   
   
  
  
 
 

 


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[chromium-dev] Copy URL as plain text instead of HTML

2009-07-31 Thread ptr727

Hi

This is my first post in this group, so if there is more appropriate
place to post a requests like this, please let me know.

I often copy and past the browser URL or link URL's in documents or
emails.
IE copies the URL as plain text, and when pasting the URL in a
document, the pasted text has not formatting, and correctly inherits
the formatting of the document.

When doing the same with Chrome, it pastes the the URL as formatted
HTML, messing up the font and formatting of the document.
To work around this, every time I paste in Outlook or Word, I have to
select the paste special menu, and select paste as text.

I can think of no particular reason why the URL or a link needs to be
formatted in anything other than plain text.

Can the URL and link copy code please be changed to not format the
text?


Thank you
P.
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[chromium-dev] Re: Copy URL as plain text instead of HTML

2009-07-31 Thread Peter Kasting
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:28 AM, ptr727 pieter.vilj...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can think of no particular reason why the URL or a link needs to be
 formatted in anything other than plain text.


Most people tend to prefer links to be formatted as links, so they can click
them.

Can the URL and link copy code please be changed to not format the
 text?


I don't think that would serve our userbase well.

PK

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[chromium-dev] Re: Copy URL as plain text instead of HTML

2009-07-31 Thread PhistucK
Though, at least on Windows, that is what they (and the external
application) are expecting, I mean, they expect the formatting not to
change.
Word, Outlook and rest are automatically turning the URL into a link if it
is not already a link, anyway.
GMail does not, true.
But any other browser (I think) is not formatting it with HTML.

☆PhistucK


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 20:30, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:28 AM, ptr727 pieter.vilj...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can think of no particular reason why the URL or a link needs to be
 formatted in anything other than plain text.


 Most people tend to prefer links to be formatted as links, so they can
 click them.

 Can the URL and link copy code please be changed to not format the
 text?


 I don't think that would serve our userbase well.

 PK

 


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[chromium-dev] Re: Copy URL as plain text instead of HTML

2009-07-31 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:41 AM, PhistucK phist...@gmail.com wrote:

 Though, at least on Windows, that is what they (and the external
 application) are expecting, I mean, they expect the formatting not to
 change.
 Word, Outlook and rest are automatically turning the URL into a link if it
 is not already a link, anyway.
 GMail does not, true.


Gmail does when you send the mail, though.


 But any other browser (I think) is not formatting it with HTML.

 ☆PhistucK



 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 20:30, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:28 AM, ptr727 pieter.vilj...@gmail.comwrote:

 I can think of no particular reason why the URL or a link needs to be
 formatted in anything other than plain text.


 Most people tend to prefer links to be formatted as links, so they can
 click them.

 Can the URL and link copy code please be changed to not format the
 text?


 I don't think that would serve our userbase well.

 PK




 


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[chromium-dev] Re: Copy URL as plain text instead of HTML

2009-07-31 Thread Tony Chang

Can you elaborate on how you're copying a URL from Chrome?  Are you
using Ctrl+C, the page menu item, or the context menu?

When I use the context menu, I only get the plain text of the URL.  In
the other two cases, doesn't every browser paste as HTML?

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:28 AM, ptr727pieter.vilj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 This is my first post in this group, so if there is more appropriate
 place to post a requests like this, please let me know.

 I often copy and past the browser URL or link URL's in documents or
 emails.
 IE copies the URL as plain text, and when pasting the URL in a
 document, the pasted text has not formatting, and correctly inherits
 the formatting of the document.

 When doing the same with Chrome, it pastes the the URL as formatted
 HTML, messing up the font and formatting of the document.
 To work around this, every time I paste in Outlook or Word, I have to
 select the paste special menu, and select paste as text.

 I can think of no particular reason why the URL or a link needs to be
 formatted in anything other than plain text.

 Can the URL and link copy code please be changed to not format the
 text?


 Thank you
 P.
 


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[chromium-dev] PSA: Consider upgrading to VS2008.

2009-07-31 Thread Ben Goodger (Google)

A few changes are coming soon that mean using VS2008 is desirable:

- /MP will be enabled by default for VS2008 debug builds, which will
make your builds faster on newer multicore machines without you having
to patch any files in your local tree.
- We will eventually update the required SDK to the Windows 7 SDK. For
this to work in VS2005 an additional hotfix is required.

VS2005 will remain our base supported system however these benefits
make upgrading to VS2008 desirable (especially if you are getting new
hardware that needs everything to be set up on it anyway).

-Ben

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[chromium-dev] Re: PSA: Consider upgrading to VS2008.

2009-07-31 Thread Mohamed Mansour
Are we planning to remove ATL so we can make Express people happy. We can do
a project plan and figure out a timeline on how to remove ATL. It will make
many people happy.
-- Mohamed Mansour


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Ben Goodger (Google) b...@chromium.orgwrote:


 A few changes are coming soon that mean using VS2008 is desirable:

 - /MP will be enabled by default for VS2008 debug builds, which will
 make your builds faster on newer multicore machines without you having
 to patch any files in your local tree.
 - We will eventually update the required SDK to the Windows 7 SDK. For
 this to work in VS2005 an additional hotfix is required.

 VS2005 will remain our base supported system however these benefits
 make upgrading to VS2008 desirable (especially if you are getting new
 hardware that needs everything to be set up on it anyway).

 -Ben

 


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[chromium-dev] Topcrash on OSX - crbug.com/17555 - Renderer dies on WTF::HastSetWebCore::Page* ...

2009-07-31 Thread Jeremy Moskovich
This is the top crash on OSX by far as of 3.0.196.0.
From Dimitri's comment on the bug:


It appears that somehow a message from BrowserRenderProcessHost catches the
RenderProcess with its pants down, where WebView hasn't been created and the
WebCore::Page constructor hasn't been called yet.



Does this ring a bell for anyone?

Best regards,

Jeremy

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[chromium-dev] Re: Topcrash on OSX - crbug.com/17555 - Renderer dies on WTF::HastSetWebCore::Page* ...

2009-07-31 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Jeremy Moskovich jer...@chromium.orgwrote:

 This is the top crash on OSX by far as of 3.0.196.0.
 From Dimitri's comment on the bug:
 

 It appears that somehow a message from BrowserRenderProcessHost catches the
 RenderProcess with its pants down, where WebView hasn't been created and the
 WebCore::Page constructor hasn't been called yet.

 

 Does this ring a bell for anyone?

 What do you mean by ring a bell?  Do you know what the IPC message is?
 Do you guys know how to reproduce it?

I believe I've hit this crash many times.  If I open a tab and navigate
somewhere too quickly (especially under system load) I can reliably crash
the renderer.  The one time I did this with the first tab I opened, every
subsequent tab I opened went straight to the sad tab page.  Some form or
another of this has been happening for a while.

J

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[chromium-dev] Re: Copy URL as plain text instead of HTML

2009-07-31 Thread ptr727

As I was writing this and testing steps to replicate, I found that the
HTML formatting did not always happen.

I found the answer using the Windows ClipBook Viewer (it is only
available on XP as clipbrd.exe, but works on Vista).
When placing contents in the clipbook, the application that saves the
information makes various versions of that information available.
Copy something, then click the view menu to see all the available
formats.

E.g. when copying from text from a Word doc you will see Text, Unicode
Text, Enhanced Metafile, Picture, Locale, OEM Text, DataObject, etc.
E.g. when you copy the URL in IE, you will see Unicode Text, Locale,
Text, and OEM Text.
E.g. when you right click copy shortcut in IE, you will see Unicode
Text, Locale, Text, and OEM Text, DataObject, FileContents,
FileGropupDescriptorW, etc.
E.g. when you copy the URL in FireFox, you will see Unicode Text,
Text, Locale, OEM Text, DataObject, Ole Private Data.
E.g. when you right click copy link location in FireFox, you will see
Unicode Text, Text, Locale, OEM Text, DataObject, Ole Private Data.
E.g. when you copy the URL in Chrome, you will see Unicode Text,
Locale, Text, Locale, OEM Text, UniformResourceLocatorW, HTML Format.
E.g. when you right click copy link address in Chrome, you will see
Unicode Text, Locale, Text, OEM Text.

When you paste in Outlook or Word, it defaults to HTML when available.
If I create a new Outlook email or a new Word doc, and I paste the
Chrome URL, it pastes fine because, I assume, there are no other HTML
tags.
If I am writing an email with formatting, or replying to an email, and
I then paste the contents, the URL has a Times New Roman font instead
of the font in the doc.

To summarize, in Chrome copying the URL from the UI is not the same as
right click copy link.
Right click copy link works fine because it does not contain HTML
formatted text.
Copy from URL does contain HTML formatted text, and results in
documents with weird formatting.

If the UI URL copy can work the same as the right click copy link
address, the problem can be solved.

P.





On Jul 31, 10:56 am, Tony Chang t...@chromium.org wrote:
 Can you elaborate on how you're copying a URL from Chrome?  Are you
 using Ctrl+C, the page menu item, or the context menu?

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[chromium-dev] Re: PSA: Consider upgrading to VS2008.

2009-07-31 Thread Ben Goodger (Google)

I would like to. It's just a matter of time and effort... and it's not
been a top priority for me to date. Please feel free to gather
requirements and develop a plan however.

-Ben

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Mohamed
Mansourm0.interact...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are we planning to remove ATL so we can make Express people happy. We can do
 a project plan and figure out a timeline on how to remove ATL. It will make
 many people happy.
 -- Mohamed Mansour


 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Ben Goodger (Google) b...@chromium.org
 wrote:

 A few changes are coming soon that mean using VS2008 is desirable:

 - /MP will be enabled by default for VS2008 debug builds, which will
 make your builds faster on newer multicore machines without you having
 to patch any files in your local tree.
 - We will eventually update the required SDK to the Windows 7 SDK. For
 this to work in VS2005 an additional hotfix is required.

 VS2005 will remain our base supported system however these benefits
 make upgrading to VS2008 desirable (especially if you are getting new
 hardware that needs everything to be set up on it anyway).

 -Ben




 


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[chromium-dev] Re: Copy URL as plain text instead of HTML

2009-07-31 Thread Peter Kasting
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:00 PM, ptr727 pieter.vilj...@gmail.com wrote:

 To summarize, in Chrome copying the URL from the UI is not the same as
 right click copy link.


By copying the URL from the UI do you mean copying the URL from the
Omnibox?  Or copying from the webpage contents, using ctrl-c?

Right click copy link works fine because it does not contain HTML
 formatted text.


Does highlighting the link and copying do the same thing?

PK

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[chromium-dev] Re: Topcrash on OSX - crbug.com/17555 - Renderer dies on WTF::HastSetWebCore::Page* ...

2009-07-31 Thread Jeremy Moskovich
No, we don't have a repro, but what you mentioned sounds promising.
Thanks,
Jeremy

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Jeremy Moskovich jer...@chromium.orgwrote:

 This is the top crash on OSX by far as of 3.0.196.0.
 From Dimitri's comment on the bug:
 

 It appears that somehow a message from BrowserRenderProcessHost catches the
 RenderProcess with its pants down, where WebView hasn't been created and the
 WebCore::Page constructor hasn't been called yet.

 

 Does this ring a bell for anyone?

 What do you mean by ring a bell?  Do you know what the IPC message is?
  Do you guys know how to reproduce it?

 I believe I've hit this crash many times.  If I open a tab and navigate
 somewhere too quickly (especially under system load) I can reliably crash
 the renderer.  The one time I did this with the first tab I opened, every
 subsequent tab I opened went straight to the sad tab page.  Some form or
 another of this has been happening for a while.

 J


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[chromium-dev] Re: Copy URL as plain text instead of HTML

2009-07-31 Thread Evan Stade

I have a feeling you are talking about the render view, and you should
be asking these questions 'round webkit way

-- Evan Stade



On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Peter Kastingpkast...@google.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:00 PM, ptr727 pieter.vilj...@gmail.com wrote:

 To summarize, in Chrome copying the URL from the UI is not the same as
 right click copy link.

 By copying the URL from the UI do you mean copying the URL from the
 Omnibox?  Or copying from the webpage contents, using ctrl-c?

 Right click copy link works fine because it does not contain HTML
 formatted text.

 Does highlighting the link and copying do the same thing?
 PK
 


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[chromium-dev] `git pull` timeout

2009-07-31 Thread Nico Weber

Hi,

`git pull` times out for me:

thakis-macbookpro:~/src/chrome-git/src thakis$ git pull
git.chromium.org[0: 74.125.54.202]: errno=Operation timed out
fatal: unable to connect a socket (Operation timed out)
thakis-macbookpro:~/src/chrome-git/src thakis$ ping 74.125.54.202
PING 74.125.54.202 (74.125.54.202): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 74.125.54.202: icmp_seq=0 ttl=246 time=62.565 ms

Does someone have to restart some server?

Thanks,
Nico

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[chromium-dev] Re: Copy URL as plain text instead of HTML

2009-07-31 Thread Scott Violet

I just happen to be looking at clipboard code for page contents.
Here's the code for writing a URL:

void WebClipboardImpl::writeURL(const WebURL url, const WebString title) {
  ScopedClipboardWriterGlue scw(ClipboardGetClipboard());

  scw.WriteBookmark(title, url.spec());
  scw.WriteHTML(UTF8ToUTF16(URLToMarkup(url, title)), );
  scw.WriteText(UTF8ToUTF16(url.spec()));
}

Notice how we write it as HTML here.

I'm not sure under what conditions we end up in that method though.
Selecting a link on a page and pressing control-c ends up here:

void WebClipboardImpl::writeHTML(
const WebString html_text, const WebURL source_url,
const WebString plain_text, bool write_smart_paste) {
  ScopedClipboardWriterGlue scw(ClipboardGetClipboard());
  scw.WriteHTML(html_text, source_url.spec());
  scw.WriteText(plain_text);

  if (write_smart_paste)
scw.WriteWebSmartPaste();
}

  -Scott

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Evan Stadeest...@chromium.org wrote:

 I have a feeling you are talking about the render view, and you should
 be asking these questions 'round webkit way

 -- Evan Stade



 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Peter Kastingpkast...@google.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:00 PM, ptr727 pieter.vilj...@gmail.com wrote:

 To summarize, in Chrome copying the URL from the UI is not the same as
 right click copy link.

 By copying the URL from the UI do you mean copying the URL from the
 Omnibox?  Or copying from the webpage contents, using ctrl-c?

 Right click copy link works fine because it does not contain HTML
 formatted text.

 Does highlighting the link and copying do the same thing?
 PK
 


 


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[chromium-dev] browser/sync is moving in

2009-07-31 Thread Tim Steele
Hi!

A bunch of us have been working on a feature to sync user data in Chromium
with a Google account.  (Surprise! :))  The great news is that we'll be
starting to work directly in the Chromium project this week, and let me tell
you, are we excited to do that!  This email discusses how we're planning to
get started, in detail (maybe too much detail... sorry).

We have built a library that implements the client side of our sync
protocolhttp://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/design-documents/sync,
as well as the Google server-side infrastructure to serve Google Chrome
users and synchronize data to their Google Account.  Of course, all the code
going into Chromium is open source, and the messages between the client and
server use the open protobuf http://code.google.com/p/protobuf/ format and
library.  Check out the sync developer
pagehttp://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/design-documents/sync
if
you're interested in low-level goals and technical details.

We will be landing this code in a few steps rather than one giant changelist
for a number of reasons.  First, this makes reviewing a *lot* easier; it
isn't the most straightforward code by nature, so the more fine grained
scrutiny the code gets, the better.  Second, we've been working in a
proprietary environment until now because of the dependency of having to
build the complementary Google production server environment for syncing.
 As such, the code uses a small number of internal libraries that we need to
open-source or replace, as well as libraries that would be redundant to what
Chromium already includes.  Removing these, and open sourcing the entire
sync engine, is our highest priority and we expect this to take about three
weeks.

So how will we commit the code in pieces and not totally hose the build in
the process?  First, a little more background.  You may have come across the
CHROME_PERSONALIZATION #define when digging through Chromium source code.
 Right now, this is used in conjunction with a relatively small number of
private c++ source files to conditionally build Chromium with sync enabled.
 These files are in fact a glue layer between Chromium and what is called
the syncapi, which is the bulk of the client library I was talking about
above.  On windows, syncapi is built into a DLL, and when
CHROME_PERSONALIZATION is defined this DLL gets placed alongside chrome.dll
for use at runtime.  Syncapi builds and runs on Linux, but not Mac (yet).

With the initial checkin, we will leave the CHROME_PERSONALIZATION #define
as-is, so the sync code will not be built by default.  We'll be working hard
over the coming weeks to make sure the code passes all existing test suites
that are part of the regular buildbot cycle, and on removing the #define.
 After that, our hope is that we will be free of the DLL altogether and have
all the code checked in to the repository, fully functional or not, in a few
weeks.  We do *not* plan on ever checking in the windows-only syncapi dll to
the main chromium repository.  So until the dll is no longer needed, the
public repository won't have all the bits to actually build Chromium with
sync enabled.  That said, we want to keep the sync build running smoothly,
so we will use a combination of command-line flag (to enable sync) and
delay-loading syncapi.dll only when it is needed.  This will allow the
glue code to compile as part of the normal Chromium build without
introducing a dependency on this dll, yet still make it possible to run with
the dll present.

On that note, we're planning to use the syncapi DLL to produce a
sync-enabled Google Chrome build for dev-channel users in a week or so, to
get the feature into experimentally inclined hands.  We have a great deal of
infrastructure, both in the browser and in the form of production Google
services, that need to start seeing real user traffic and usage.  It takes a
great deal of testing and confidence inspired by real usage statistics
before any complex system like this can be deemed adequate for use by a
large user base.  So if we want to let all Google Chrome users use sync (and
we do! we do!), we've got to get started on this pronto.

Our developer 
pagehttp://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/design-documents/sync
also
covers the hierarchy of files we're landing that you can expect to start
syncing (in the gclient sense) down in the next couple of days.  We can't
wait (*really*) to work on this with the rest of the Chromium community and
going even further in creating the best browzr ever!

Thanks for reading, and happy syncing!

- the cloudy bunch
{idana, nick, nickbaum, chee, munjal, brg, chron, zork, laforge, tejasshah,
tim} at chromium.org

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[chromium-dev] Re: Copy URL as plain text instead of HTML

2009-07-31 Thread Ojan Vafai
This is kind of off topic, but should we consider adding a
copy/cut-as-plain-text keyboard shortcut (ctrl+shift+c/x). That would be
nicely symmetrical with ctrl+shift+v for paste-as-plain-text.
Ojan

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Scott Violet s...@chromium.org wrote:


 I just happen to be looking at clipboard code for page contents.
 Here's the code for writing a URL:

 void WebClipboardImpl::writeURL(const WebURL url, const WebString title)
 {
  ScopedClipboardWriterGlue scw(ClipboardGetClipboard());

  scw.WriteBookmark(title, url.spec());
  scw.WriteHTML(UTF8ToUTF16(URLToMarkup(url, title)), );
  scw.WriteText(UTF8ToUTF16(url.spec()));
 }

 Notice how we write it as HTML here.

 I'm not sure under what conditions we end up in that method though.
 Selecting a link on a page and pressing control-c ends up here:

 void WebClipboardImpl::writeHTML(
const WebString html_text, const WebURL source_url,
const WebString plain_text, bool write_smart_paste) {
  ScopedClipboardWriterGlue scw(ClipboardGetClipboard());
  scw.WriteHTML(html_text, source_url.spec());
  scw.WriteText(plain_text);

  if (write_smart_paste)
scw.WriteWebSmartPaste();
 }

  -Scott

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Evan Stadeest...@chromium.org wrote:
 
  I have a feeling you are talking about the render view, and you should
  be asking these questions 'round webkit way
 
  -- Evan Stade
 
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Peter Kastingpkast...@google.com
 wrote:
  On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:00 PM, ptr727 pieter.vilj...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  To summarize, in Chrome copying the URL from the UI is not the same as
  right click copy link.
 
  By copying the URL from the UI do you mean copying the URL from the
  Omnibox?  Or copying from the webpage contents, using ctrl-c?
 
  Right click copy link works fine because it does not contain HTML
  formatted text.
 
  Does highlighting the link and copying do the same thing?
  PK
  
 
 
  
 

 


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[chromium-dev] Re: `git pull` timeout

2009-07-31 Thread Evan Martin

See the note on the page about if you're within the Google corporate network.

(I should probably amend that for the public: it's just a routing
issue related to how git.chromium.org lives in a DMZ.)

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Nico Webertha...@chromium.org wrote:

 Hi,

 `git pull` times out for me:

 thakis-macbookpro:~/src/chrome-git/src thakis$ git pull
 git.chromium.org[0: 74.125.54.202]: errno=Operation timed out
 fatal: unable to connect a socket (Operation timed out)
 thakis-macbookpro:~/src/chrome-git/src thakis$ ping 74.125.54.202
 PING 74.125.54.202 (74.125.54.202): 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 74.125.54.202: icmp_seq=0 ttl=246 time=62.565 ms

 Does someone have to restart some server?

 Thanks,
 Nico

 


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[chromium-dev] Re: `git pull` timeout

2009-07-31 Thread Evan Martin

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Evan Martine...@chromium.org wrote:
 See the note on the page about if you're within the Google corporate 
 network.

the page = http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/UsingGit


 (I should probably amend that for the public: it's just a routing
 issue related to how git.chromium.org lives in a DMZ.)

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Nico Webertha...@chromium.org wrote:

 Hi,

 `git pull` times out for me:

 thakis-macbookpro:~/src/chrome-git/src thakis$ git pull
 git.chromium.org[0: 74.125.54.202]: errno=Operation timed out
 fatal: unable to connect a socket (Operation timed out)
 thakis-macbookpro:~/src/chrome-git/src thakis$ ping 74.125.54.202
 PING 74.125.54.202 (74.125.54.202): 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 74.125.54.202: icmp_seq=0 ttl=246 time=62.565 ms

 Does someone have to restart some server?

 Thanks,
 Nico

 



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[chromium-dev] Re: browser/sync is moving in

2009-07-31 Thread Peter Kasting
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Tim Steele t...@chromium.org wrote:

 Check out the sync developer 
 pagehttp://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/design-documents/sync
  if
 you're interested in low-level goals and technical details.


Since I suspect it will be a FAQ:

According to that webpage, this currently only syncs bookmarks.  More data
types may come some day.  (Personally, I hope they do.  I'm more interested
in history/visited link/omnibox syncing than bookmarks.)

PK

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[chromium-dev] Re: `git pull` timeout

2009-07-31 Thread Nico Weber

That fixed it, thanks.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Evan Martine...@chromium.org wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Evan Martine...@chromium.org wrote:
 See the note on the page about if you're within the Google corporate 
 network.

 the page = http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/UsingGit


 (I should probably amend that for the public: it's just a routing
 issue related to how git.chromium.org lives in a DMZ.)

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Nico Webertha...@chromium.org wrote:

 Hi,

 `git pull` times out for me:

 thakis-macbookpro:~/src/chrome-git/src thakis$ git pull
 git.chromium.org[0: 74.125.54.202]: errno=Operation timed out
 fatal: unable to connect a socket (Operation timed out)
 thakis-macbookpro:~/src/chrome-git/src thakis$ ping 74.125.54.202
 PING 74.125.54.202 (74.125.54.202): 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 74.125.54.202: icmp_seq=0 ttl=246 time=62.565 ms

 Does someone have to restart some server?

 Thanks,
 Nico

 




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[chromium-dev] Re: browser/sync is moving in

2009-07-31 Thread Mohamed Mansour
So we are going to tie up Chromium sync to just Google Services? Why not
make the protocol open so any service could use it. So if anyone wants to
sync, they will install an extension to do so, instead of coupling it
directly to Google services.
-- Mohamed Mansour


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Tim Steele t...@chromium.org wrote:

 Check out the sync developer 
 pagehttp://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/design-documents/sync
  if
 you're interested in low-level goals and technical details.


 Since I suspect it will be a FAQ:

 According to that webpage, this currently only syncs bookmarks.  More data
 types may come some day.  (Personally, I hope they do.  I'm more interested
 in history/visited link/omnibox syncing than bookmarks.)

 PK

 


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[chromium-dev] Re: browser/sync is moving in

2009-07-31 Thread Peter Kasting
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org wrote:

 So we are going to tie up Chromium sync to just Google Services? Why not
 make the protocol open so any service could use it.


The protocol _is_ open.  Protobufs are open source and the sync spec built
on them is also open source.

PK

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[chromium-dev] Re: browser/sync is moving in

2009-07-31 Thread Mohamed Mansour
Awesome! Many people will like this.
-- Mohamed Mansour


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Tim Steele t...@chromium.org wrote:


 Yep, what Peter said.  In the coming weeks, we will check in the full
 protocol definition itself, which is what we used to build the Google
 service for Google Chrome users.


 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.comwrote:

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.orgwrote:

 So we are going to tie up Chromium sync to just Google Services? Why not
 make the protocol open so any service could use it.


 The protocol _is_ open.  Protobufs are open source and the sync spec built
 on them is also open source.

 PK




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[chromium-dev] Re: browser/sync is moving in

2009-07-31 Thread Tim Steele
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Caleb Eggensperger caleb...@gmail.comwrote:

 The doc says:

- Provide a web interface to access stored / synced bookmarks, likely
via the docs.google.com doclist.

 What about google.com/bookmarks? Shouldn't be difficult -- toolbar syncs
 to there currently.


It's more difficult than you'd think.  Chrome's different data model, among
other things, make it a lot like the square peg in a round hole problem.
 But it's something we're looking into.  For the first release, we've just
focused on getting sync to work between Chrome instances.

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[chromium-dev] How do I filter CC'd code reviews in Gmail?

2009-07-31 Thread Brett Wilson

I added myself to some watchlists and I get a bunch of email about a
lot of reviews

But this has confused my Gmail filters, which automatic ally label and
archive code reviews not addressed directly to me, and all of my CCd
code reviews show up in my inbox.

Anybody know how to reliably detect the difference between I'm the
reviewer and I'm CC'd on a review in a Gmail filter?

Brett

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[chromium-dev] Re: Copy URL as plain text instead of HTML

2009-07-31 Thread ptr727

 By copying the URL from the UI do you mean copying the URL from the
 Omnibox?  Or copying from the webpage contents, using ctrl-c?

The edit box where you type the URL.
Click in it with the mouse (give it focus), press Ctrl-A (select all),
press Ctrl-C (copy).
This results in the clipboard having HTML content instead of just
text.

P.
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[chromium-dev] my patch fails compile on try servers because png file isn't updated?

2009-07-31 Thread Tim Steele
My patch http://codereview.chromium.org/159728 keeps failing to
compilehttp://build.chromium.org/buildbot/try-server/builders/win/builds/12301/steps/compile/logs/stdio
on
the try servers because the
updatehttp://build.chromium.org/buildbot/try-server/builders/win/builds/12301/steps/gclient/logs/stdio
step
refuses to patch-in some .png files from the patch.  I looked around and saw
similar things happening to other folks on earlier reviews with .png
files...  Is this expected?  Is there a way around it?  Am I doing something
wrong?

ThanksTim

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[chromium-dev] Re: my patch fails compile on try servers because png file isn't updated?

2009-07-31 Thread Bradley Nelson
I believe the tryserver doesn't take binaries.-BradN

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Tim Steele t...@chromium.org wrote:

 My patch http://codereview.chromium.org/159728 keeps failing to 
 compilehttp://build.chromium.org/buildbot/try-server/builders/win/builds/12301/steps/compile/logs/stdio
  on
 the try servers because the 
 updatehttp://build.chromium.org/buildbot/try-server/builders/win/builds/12301/steps/gclient/logs/stdio
  step
 refuses to patch-in some .png files from the patch.  I looked around and saw
 similar things happening to other folks on earlier reviews with .png
 files...  Is this expected?  Is there a way around it?  Am I doing something
 wrong?

 ThanksTim

 


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[chromium-dev] Re: How do I filter CC'd code reviews in Gmail?

2009-07-31 Thread Ben Goodger (Google)

I would be interested in knowing this too. I think I'm going to create
a second email address (e.g. ben-cc) to handle CC'ed reviews.

-Ben

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Brett Wilsonbre...@chromium.org wrote:

 I added myself to some watchlists and I get a bunch of email about a
 lot of reviews

 But this has confused my Gmail filters, which automatic ally label and
 archive code reviews not addressed directly to me, and all of my CCd
 code reviews show up in my inbox.

 Anybody know how to reliably detect the difference between I'm the
 reviewer and I'm CC'd on a review in a Gmail filter?

 Brett

 


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[chromium-dev] Re: How do I filter CC'd code reviews in Gmail?

2009-07-31 Thread Rahul Kuchhal
I thought to:user and -cc:user would work in this case? Have you tried
using that in Has the words on Filter edit screen?

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Brett Wilson bre...@chromium.org wrote:


 I added myself to some watchlists and I get a bunch of email about a
 lot of reviews

 But this has confused my Gmail filters, which automatic ally label and
 archive code reviews not addressed directly to me, and all of my CCd
 code reviews show up in my inbox.

 Anybody know how to reliably detect the difference between I'm the
 reviewer and I'm CC'd on a review in a Gmail filter?

 Brett

 


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[chromium-dev] Re: my patch fails compile on try servers because png file isn't updated?

2009-07-31 Thread Tony Chang

The patch file doesn't include binary content.

If it's just pngs, I normally just check in the new files in a
separate change before doing the code change.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Bradley Nelsonbradnel...@google.com wrote:
 I believe the tryserver doesn't take binaries.
 -BradN
 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Tim Steele t...@chromium.org wrote:

 My patch keeps failing to compile on the try servers because
 the update step refuses to patch-in some .png files from the patch.  I
 looked around and saw similar things happening to other folks on earlier
 reviews with .png files...  Is this expected?  Is there a way around it?  Am
 I doing something wrong?

 Thanks
 Tim



 


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[chromium-dev] Re: Temporarily disable tcmalloc in build

2009-07-31 Thread cpu

What are the results of this experiment?

On Jul 30, 12:15 pm, Huan Ren hu...@chromium.org wrote:
 I just submitted a change (22080) that disables tcmalloc used on
 Windows platform. The plan is keeping it in trunk for 24 hours and
 then reverting it. The intentions are
    - Having another round of performance comparison between build with
 and w/o tcmalloc.
    - Having a full run of UI test under purify with tcmalloc disabled.
    - Getting a verified CL in case we'd like to build an alternative
 dev build w/o tcmalloc for A/B test.

 As a head up, the performance, stability, and purify test results
 could be different during the period.

 Huan
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[chromium-dev] Re: Copy URL as plain text instead of HTML

2009-07-31 Thread Evan Stade

Ah, I am eating my words. So you don't like the
targets/flavors/formats we write to when copying from the omnibox,
correct? If you plan to create a patch to change this, here would be
the place to discuss the technical details. If you are simply
requesting a change, you might be better served filing a bug at
crbug.com.

Personally I agree that it seems wrong to write the data as html when
copying out of the omnibox, but I don't know the various formats that
Windows programs expect well enough to say for sure. On Linux I think
the right targets would be plain text and maybe uri list.

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[chromium-dev] Re: Copy URL as plain text instead of HTML

2009-07-31 Thread Tony Chang

I already filed a bug for this:
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=18194

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Evan Stadeest...@chromium.org wrote:

 Ah, I am eating my words. So you don't like the
 targets/flavors/formats we write to when copying from the omnibox,
 correct? If you plan to create a patch to change this, here would be
 the place to discuss the technical details. If you are simply
 requesting a change, you might be better served filing a bug at
 crbug.com.

 Personally I agree that it seems wrong to write the data as html when
 copying out of the omnibox, but I don't know the various formats that
 Windows programs expect well enough to say for sure. On Linux I think
 the right targets would be plain text and maybe uri list.

 


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[chromium-dev] Re: How do I filter CC'd code reviews in Gmail?

2009-07-31 Thread Mohamed Mansour
I thought all those cc's from code reviews, is about the last couple of
people who edited that part of the code in the past. I have been getting a
couple of code reviews cc's and the code I was cc'd is what I have touched
within a month or so.
I could imagine Ben receiving a ton of reviews, he touched almost all
browser code base.


-- Mohamed Mansour


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Rahul Kuchhal kuch...@chromium.org wrote:

 I thought to:user and -cc:user would work in this case? Have you tried
 using that in Has the words on Filter edit screen?

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Brett Wilson bre...@chromium.org wrote:


 I added myself to some watchlists and I get a bunch of email about a
 lot of reviews

 But this has confused my Gmail filters, which automatic ally label and
 archive code reviews not addressed directly to me, and all of my CCd
 code reviews show up in my inbox.

 Anybody know how to reliably detect the difference between I'm the
 reviewer and I'm CC'd on a review in a Gmail filter?

 Brett




 


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[chromium-dev] Re: How do I filter CC'd code reviews in Gmail?

2009-07-31 Thread Ben Goodger (Google)

I get a lot of mail since I set up a watchlist filter on browser/.

-Ben

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Mohamed
Mansourm0.interact...@gmail.com wrote:
 I thought all those cc's from code reviews, is about the last couple of
 people who edited that part of the code in the past. I have been getting a
 couple of code reviews cc's and the code I was cc'd is what I have touched
 within a month or so.
 I could imagine Ben receiving a ton of reviews, he touched almost all
 browser code base.

 -- Mohamed Mansour


 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Rahul Kuchhal kuch...@chromium.org wrote:

 I thought to:user and -cc:user would work in this case? Have you tried
 using that in Has the words on Filter edit screen?

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Brett Wilson bre...@chromium.org wrote:

 I added myself to some watchlists and I get a bunch of email about a
 lot of reviews

 But this has confused my Gmail filters, which automatic ally label and
 archive code reviews not addressed directly to me, and all of my CCd
 code reviews show up in my inbox.

 Anybody know how to reliably detect the difference between I'm the
 reviewer and I'm CC'd on a review in a Gmail filter?

 Brett







 


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