[cia-drugs] [political-research] Re: chip berlet II
Sean wants to do away with the nazi dot inside neocon circle or roundtable, or "pied piper and patsy stand-off armor", as Kris and I are saying. It is easiest to make Antony Sutton the Lone Crazed Patsy Messenger, simply label-kill or ad hominem kill the messenger, Sutton, then ignore the message that World War Two has not ended if the fourth generation of Bush Warco is still on a roll. Noam Chomsky calls fourth generation Bush Warco "1930's militarized state capitalism". "1930's" may be a euphemism for Mussolini, but Mussolini and Hitler and Thyssen and Krupp are dead, and "1930's" is also a synonym for Samhain and Prescott Bush. Prescott managed Harriman, Whitney, Ford, Rockefeller, the whole east coast establishment's money, and "Brown", the British partners in the anglophile establishement's, money in the nazi war machine. Prescott managed twenty companies in the Auscwhitz death and labor camp, across the street from IG Farben, which had merged with Rockefeller's Standard Oil. People are calling them "war corporatists". People are saying "corporate welfare". You may have read about "king's charters", and the king is not going to regulate his scam, so environmentalists need to read McChesney to realize it's a war not a battle. All across the FM radio dial last night, all I could find were two shows, a baseball game and Dr. Drew. Essentially that means there is only one channel, Bread and Circuses, thanks to "king's charters" to UNREGULATED, infallible king's monopolies in media and everything else. You can't even have a union anymore. Unions are uppity, dis-respectful, when it's the king's charter, after all. Greg Palast points out that wages have gone down in Mexico and the US, supply and demand, as formerly US jobs are now divided among a larger pool, US and Mexican workers. Wall St Journal will tell you the opposite on the front page, but they can only find a percent of wage increase for the jobs that remain, not the better paying jobs that don't exist anymore to ruin their neolib propaganda, thanks to NAFTA and globalization. President Dwight D. Eisenhower called them "the military industrial complex", and his message was killed by scapegoating an anonymous, lone crazed hippy somewhere with inventing Eisenhower's expression. Label-kill the anonymous hippie, or ad hominem a person using Eisenhower's phrase by pointing his long hair or beard, and ignore Eisenhower's message throughout the 1960's and 1970's, ignoring the military-industrial elephant under the carpet for the duration of the Vietnam War. Sam Bush, Prescott Bush, George Herbert Walker, and Bernard Baruch made two hundred million non-adjusted dollars off of both sides in WW2. Sam and George took board room seats, Prescott the executive position, as Bush Warco maneuvered Adolf Hitler in the 1920's toward a position as dictator for what became Noam Chomsky's "1930's militarized state capitalism", which Chomsky associates with "failed states", not harbingers of prosperity politically or economically. Greg Palast, as an economist, dissects the victims of militarized state capitalism. We can't Sean persuade us to turn a blind eye to four continuous generations Bush Warco, World War Two Extended, Choicepoint, Diebold, Armitage, Goss, 911, Saudi-Houston-Baker document corresponding to nazi dot inside neocon circle which is PNAC document. Greg Palast put Mike Ruppert Peak Oil pundit out of business. Palast also puts Sean McBride under by exposing the nazi dot Baker Saudi-financed empire plan corresponding to neocon patsy roundtable's PNAC. One of Sean's main themes is that we can trust the dialectical dot to save us by Kissinger realism, daddy Bush crew's moderation. Better read Palast, Armed Madhouse, Palast is not so flattering to fossil flatulence. And know that PNAC is not the only plan, that it's just the patsy scapegoat plan. Case in point, you've heard of PNAC, but you haven't heard of the Saudi-Baker plan, have you? Dot in a circle, Sean wants you to see only the Likudnik PNAC dot. Dialectic, dot in a circle, look for it every time. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "norgesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Re: [political-research] Re: chip berlet II > > > "He appears to be a hired gun for the powers that be." > > > > And you have never proved you are not. > > > "Sean McBride" is a false name you use to post disruptive posts on Internet forums. Your troll attacks people by name, becomes a major poster, challenging folks that dare to speak differently and then you posit binary discourses. > > > You always want to debate. As I posted from Wiki a debate is a rhetorical game used by demagogues, which you have never challenged. > > > Antony Sutton doesn't advance a "unified field theory for global politics or world history." If you had actually read his more than twenty books or had ever talked with the gentleman, you would know that. But because for your world-view to prevail you must denigrate Sutton. You do this by creating
[cia-drugs] PAROLE BILL HR3072 TO BE REPRESENTED AT NASCAR
If you don't know John Flahive, you should take a moment to say hello. He is a wonderful young man who advocates for George Martorano and others like him. George is the prisoner serving the longest sentence in the American federal prison system to date for a non-violent 1st time marijuana offense. George was unbelievably given life without parole. He has now served more than 23 years of his unfair sentence and needs our support if he is to ever get a second chance at freedom. In Congress there is a Bill numbered HR3072 - A Bill to Revive the System of Parole for Federal Prisoners. If passed, George and many others in his position can go home. The bill is still gaining support and does have a chance when Congress comes back. On AUGUST 23rd in Bristal Tennessee, the NASCAR #54 Carter2 MotorSports Truck has joined with FreeFeds.org to promote HR3072. This will be a big event with over 3 million viewers and 160,000 fans in attendence. BNN (Broadcast News Network) and a show PBS film producer Allan Mason is going up with a crew to do a 6-7 hour shoot with NASCAR driver, Roger Carter, II at Carter 2 Motorsports. The first segment will air on cable to approximately 10-14 million viewers. John has been invited to be a volunteer at the NASCAR track. He's a fine young man who knows this bill and articulates his principles in a manner that could engender a lot of support for HR3072. FedCure has hooked up with NASCAR to arrange the proper credentials for John. Unfortunately, neither John nor FedCURE have the money for this trip. So, on behalf of the justice that HR3072 will afford to prisoners like George, I ask please, if you can support their efforts with a buck, 5 bucks, ANYTHING, together we can open the door to freedom for many people like George, who do deserve a second chance. If you can help John get to NASCAR tp represent HR3072 and all the prisoners and families it will benefit, please contact... John Flahive[EMAIL PROTECTED]WeBelieveGroup[EMAIL PROTECTED]PO BOX 41491St. Pete, FL 33743www.webelievegroup.com/ Sign our "FREE GEORGE MARTORANO" petition at http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/330451772. __._,_.___ Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM SPONSORED LINKS United state bankruptcy court western district of texas United state life insurance United state patent United state patent search United states patent office YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "cia-drugs" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[cia-drugs] Gazprom's huge Venezuela gas deal alarms US
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,1838002,00.html Gazprom's huge Venezuela gas deal alarms US Conal WalshSunday August 6, 2006The Observer Gazprom, Russia's state-controlled gas company, is risking a diplomatic row with the United States over a mooted multibillion-dollar pipeline investment in Venezuela. The Russian gas giant is close to a deal on the project, according to Venezuela's firebrand President, Hugo Chavez, who has led opposition to US influence in Latin America. News of the possible tie-up follows Gazprom's recently declared interest in investing in Bolivia, another regional enemy of the US, and is the latest sign of Moscow's deteriorating relationship with Washington. It comes after the Russian President, Vladimir Putin, failed at the G8 summit in St Petersburg in July to secure American support for its entry to the World Trade Organisation. President Putin has also argued with Western countries over the growing power of Gazprom, which supplies 25 per cent of the European Union's gas and controls the vast pipeline network linking Siberia and the Caspian region with the West. A dispute over gas pricing between Gazprom and the Ukrainian government brought temporary disruption to Europe's gas supply earlier this year, and prompted US Vice-President Dick Cheney to accuse Moscow of 'intimidation and blackmail'. The US and Russia have also disagreed over human rights and Iran, and the prospect of a state-backed Russian company entering the western hemisphere is likely to jangle many nerves in Washington. On a visit to Moscow last week, Chavez told a Russian TV news programme that 'Gazprom and its technicians are studying a project for the construction of a gas pipeline from Venezuela to Argentina'. The proposed 9,000-metre pipe, championed by Chavez, aims to link Venezuela's huge natural gas reserves through Brazil to Argentina, with branches extending to Bolivia, Paraguay and Uruguay. Gazprom already has two exploration licences in Venezuela, Latin America's biggest hydrocarbons producer. But the pipeline would represent a step-change in its involvement there. In June, Gazprom revealed that it was in discussions to invest $2-3bn in Bolivia, which, alongside Venezuela and Cuba, is part of a self-declared 'Bolivarian axis' that aims to be a regional counterweight to the US. Gazprom has expressed interest in joint exploration and production projects in Bolivia, which recently announced plans to renationalise its energy industry, to the probable detriment of many Western companies with investments in the country, including Britain's BG. Gazprom, which is 51 per cent owned by the Russian government, controls around a quarter of global gas reserves but is keen to diversify abroad. The company has formed production joint ventures with Western companies within Russia, and made downstream acquisitions of its own in Europe. The company has persistently been linked with a possible bid for Centrica, Britain's largest gas distributor. __._,_.___ Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM SPONSORED LINKS United state bankruptcy court western district of texas United state life insurance United state patent United state patent search United states patent office YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "cia-drugs" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[cia-drugs] Re: [political-research] Re: chip berlet II
Re: [political-research] Re: chip berlet II "He appears to be a hired gun for the powers that be." And you have never proved you are not. "Sean McBride" is a false name you use to post disruptive posts on Internet forums. Your troll attacks people by name, becomes a major poster, challenging folks that dare to speak differently and then you posit binary discourses. You always want to debate. As I posted from Wiki a debate is a rhetorical game used by demagogues, which you have never challenged. Antony Sutton doesn't advance a "unified field theory for global politics or world history." If you had actually read his more than twenty books or had ever talked with the gentleman, you would know that. But because for your world-view to prevail you must denigrate Sutton. You do this by creating a strawman argument. Just like the one I am commented on right now. Your strawman argumenst are many and your other uses of subtle propaganda are also very telling. Why do you have to use all these lies and rhetorical tricks to make your points? Because you are a false meme "soldier" in the psychological warfare being waged against us hoi polloi by an elite that are in control of much and are grasping for more. Another trick used in you small missive below is lumping Pat Robertson and Antony Sutton together. They are very different personages, their philosophy and "rewards" for their parts in life's drama. Pat Robertson is not a Christian. He is a spook, like Berlet. He lays down false memes, helps run one of the main mind-control ops, fundy xtians, and is part of the whole end times drama game. Robertson ties to intel in his many African operations are well known. His finances have had there share of interesting episodes. The physical area and the social dynamics where he exerts his influence is very important to the elites. Virgina Beach/Norfolk area is the home to much intelligence and navel assets and power. The revelations of Kay Griggs about Robertson are concurrent with the known patterns of elite conspiratorial activities. Antony Sutton had his "rice bowl broken" in the the early seventies, when he uncovered and refused all entreaties to not report on the fact that the Soviet war materials being used in Viet Nam against US soldiers were made possible by secret transfers of American technology to the USSR. McBride, over and over, has set up the strawman that Sutton, myself and others have some rigid theory that says Bones/Yale rules the world. That is not true. Yes, both Sutton and I have found that by studying Bones and the secret society system, that is unique to Yale we can learn a lot about the ruling hegemony. And that we say that this hegemony is being maintained by conspiratorial actions that uses a network that includes these secret societies, foundations, corporations, the endowments, the oil industry, the drug industry, the world's banks, intelligence services, etc to accomplish their goal of a global control. Sutton wrote books about Wall Street, about war and revolution, about monetary policy, about the Federal Reserve, about the Tri-Lateral Commission about the non-energy crisis, and more. So as to not set up a strawman, and maybe you could actually answer a question that you have never answered. McBride, you have claimed that the power behind the cabal that you have stated is bringing about a national crisis that you are so concerned about, that you spend your time creating dissension on silly email lists, is the Forbes 50 "Jewish" billionaires. Can you please enlighten us all the dynamics, the organizations used to foist the neo-cons upon us hoi polloi, that is independent and cohesive. I have asked several times for you to show me a cohesion between twenty or even ten of you Forbes billionaires. There are a myriad of cohesive conspiratorial conclaves and gatherings by the elite deviants that I ascribe a conspiracy too. Yes, McBride, there is conspiracy. And I want to expose and fight it. The McBride trolls of the world just want to set up a controlled dialectic that divides us hoi polloi into unreconcilable camps. MHO Peace, Om K On Aug 5, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Sean McBride wrote: Just to repeat the obvious once more: I am not Berlet, I do not know Berlet, I have never communicated with Berlet, and I disagree with most of Berlet's writings. Also, I have never conspired with anyone against Millegan in his lists. I confess to expressing some disagreements with some of Millegan's conspiracy theories, however -- in general I don't buy any kind of unified field theory for global politics or world history, whether advanced by Antony Sutton, Pat Robertson or anyone else. Wrt Berlet: I took a look at some more of his writings recently. He is infuriating on the subject of 9/11 -- the weakness and dishonesty of his apologetics on this issue is manifest. But some of his other writings o
[cia-drugs] 1] Fwd: [ctrl] Re: [political-research] Re: chip berlet II
Begin forwarded message:From: RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: August 5, 2006 9:28:14 AM PDTTo: political-research@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: [ctrl] Re: [political-research] Re: chip berlet IIReply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Foxhall, I have never said or implied that you were a part an organized conspiracy. Please post where I have ever said that. What I have said is some "real" people will be caught up these troll operations. That part and parcel of the operation, because then the slighted folks then may become the troll's allies. No, "Foxhall" I tossed you off the day after I tossed the trolls off. You were creating a lot of noise, shouting and posting screeds. The only persons, that I have named as a troll is "Sean," and his helpers Eastman and Webfairy. Whether the others are dogs or useful idiots, I dunna know or care. Fox, I notice that in your posts you do not think much of the ADL. Well, spook Berlet works with them. I guess you don't care being led down a "controlled dialectic rabbit hole by your prejudicial or ignorant short-hairs.Peace, Kris MilleganOn Aug 5, 2006, at 6:24 AM, foxhallgeorgetwn wrote:Mr. McBride,looks like I just got booted off ctrl. apparently, or sticking up for you! as a whole, I seem to generally agree with the gist of your presentations, one reason why I don't read your posts; preaching to the choir, as the saying goes. Now that kris millegan has seen fit to include me in his paranoid conspiracy theory about your internet use, well, I am tempted to fight back with some anti-millegan posts elsewhere. I don't care if your name is chip berlet, which I doubt it is, millegan cannot prove his points, he is substituting insubstantial conjecture for facts. That is the sign of an immaturethinker. chip berlet? well, if he was a great thinker, then I would be familiar with him, I am unfamiliar with him, and to me that means he has nothing to address to my personal quest. if you have anything to fill me in on about millegan, please feel free. I am an individual and my work is my own responsibility, I am not part of an organized 'troll conspiracy' as millegan implies.fox= __._,_.___ Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM SPONSORED LINKS United state bankruptcy court western district of texas United state life insurance United state patent United state patent search United states patent office YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "cia-drugs" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___ =
[cia-drugs] Book: Sept. 11 Panel Doubted Officials
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060805/D8JA0FDG0.html Book: Sept. 11 Panel Doubted OfficialsBy HOPE YEN WASHINGTON (AP) - The Sept. 11 commission was so frustrated with repeated misstatements by the Pentagon and FAA about their response to the 2001 terror attacks that it considered an investigation into possible deception, the panel's chairmen say in a new book. Republican Thomas Kean and Democrat Lee Hamilton also say in "Without Precedent" that their panel was too soft in questioning former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani - and that the 20-month investigation may have suffered for it. The book, a behind-the-scenes look at the investigation, recounts obstacles the authors say were thrown up by the Bush administration, internal disputes over President Bush's use of the attacks as a reason for invading Iraq, and the way the final report avoided questioning whether U.S. policy in the Middle East may have contributed to the attacks. Kean and Hamilton said the commission found it mind-boggling that authorities had asserted during hearings that their air defenses had reacted quickly and were prepared to shoot down United Airlines Flight 93, which appeared headed toward Washington. (AP) Sept. 11 commission vice chair Lee Hamilton, left, and chairman Thomas Kean, right, pause during a...Full ImageIn fact, the commission determined - after it subpoenaed audiotapes and e-mails of the sequence of events - that the shootdown order did not reach North American Aerospace Command pilots until after all of the hijacked planes had crashed. The book states that commission staff, "exceedingly frustrated" by what they thought could be deception, proposed a full review into why the FAA and the Pentagon's NORAD had presented inaccurate information. That ultimately could have led to sanctions. Due to a lack of time, the panel ultimately referred the matter to the inspectors general at the Pentagon and Transportation Department. Both are preparing reports, spokesmen said this week. "Fog of war could explain why some people were confused on the day of 9/11, but it could not explain why all of the after-action reports, accident investigations and public testimony by FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue," the book states. The questioning of Giuliani was considered by Kean and Hamilton "a low point" in the commission's examination of witnesses during public hearings. "We did not ask tough questions, nor did we get all of the information we needed to put on the public record," they wrote. Commission members backed off, Kean and Hamilton said, after drawing criticism in newspaper editorials for sharp questioning of New York fire and police officials at earlier hearings. The editorials said the commission was insensitive to the officials' bravery on the day of the attacks. "It proved difficult, if not impossible, to raise hard questions about 9/11 in New York without it being perceived as criticism of the individual police and firefighters or of Mayor Giuliani," Kean and Hamilton said. Congress established the commission in 2002 to investigate government missteps leading to the Sept. 11 attacks. Its 567-page unanimous report, which was released in July 2004 and became a national best seller, does not blame Bush or former President Clinton but does say they failed to make anti-terrorism a high priority before the attacks. The panel of five Republicans and five Democrats also concluded that the Sept. 11 attacks would not be the nation's last, noting that al-Qaida had tried for at least 10 years to acquire weapons of mass destruction. In their book, which goes on sale Aug. 15, Kean and Hamilton recap obstacles they say the panel faced in putting out a credible report in a presidential election year, including fights for access to government documents and an effort to reach unanimity. Among the issues: - Iraq. The commission threatened to splinter over the question of investigating the administration's use of 9/11 as a reason for going to war. The strongest proponent was original member Max Cleland, a Democratic former senator who later stepped down for separate reasons. If Cleland had not resigned, the commission probably would not have reached unanimity, according to the book. Ultimately, commissioners decided to touch briefly on the Iraq war by concluding there was no "collaborative relationship" between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida; the administration had asserted there were substantial contacts between the two. - Israel. The commission disagreed as to how to characterize al-Qaida's motives for attacking the U.S., with Hamilton arguing that
[cia-drugs] Official Secrets Act is back
Official Secrets Act is back Senator Bonds new bill is identical to the legislation that Clinton vetoed in 2000, which was dubbed the Official Secrets Act, after the U.K.s repressive criminal secrecy statutes. This legislation would make it a crime for journalists to disclose classified information (e.g. the New York Times disclosure of the NSA warrantless domestic surveillance program or the publishing of the Pentagon Papers). Nick, POGO Steve Aftergoods Secrecy News entry on the Bond bill: http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/08/of_leaks_and_whistleblowers.html POGO blog entry: http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2006/08/the_official_se.html Bond press release: http://bond.senate.gov/press_section/record.cfm?id=260599 = The Official Secrets Act is Back Secrecy News reports: Senator Christopher Bond (R-Missouri) introduced legislation today to criminalize the unauthorized disclosure of classified information. That legislation is identical what many open government groups and journalism organizations fought five years ago, and was called the Official Secrets Act, after the U.K.s repressive criminal secrecy statutes. Leading Republicans objected to the legislation at the time including Representatives Henry Hyde (R-IL) and Bob Barr (R-GA). Major news organizations also protested, pointing out: several important stories -- including those involving the Pentagon Papers, the Iran-Contra affair and cases of waste, fraud and abuse in the defense industry -- were the result of classified information disclosed to journalists. -- Beth Daley UPDATE: The National Security Whistleblower Coalition blasts away at Bond's bill. Click here to see the text of the legislation. Via Secrecy News, Bond's home state paper, the Kansas City Star, opposes his bill as well (free but intrusive registration required). http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2006/08/the_official_se.html Bond Legislation Targets Intelligence Leaks Wednesday, August 2, 2006 WASHINGTON -- U.S. Senator Kit Bond, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, today introduced legislation aimed at cracking down on intelligence leaks by government employees or contractors by making it easier for the government to prosecute and punish those who make public Americas sensitive intelligence programs. Leaks expose our methods of apprehending the enemy and erode the confidence of our allies, said Bond. Over the past year there has arisen an apparent absence of fear of punishment in regards to the arbitrary divulging of classified information. We need to send a message that leaks will not be tolerated and give prosecutors a modern and appropriate tool to go after those who do leak. Current criminal statutes involving espionage evolved from a series of executive orders and legislation ranging from the Espionage Act of 1917 to the Atomic Energy Act of 1954. Bond said no statute brings together the outdated and disparate statutes under one simple provision. Bonds bill seeks to aid the Executive Branch in prosecuting individuals engaged in damaging leaks. The legislation seeks to unify current law and ease the governments burden in prosecuting and punishing leakers by eliminating the need to prove that damage to the national security has or will result from a disclosure. Under Bonds bill, individuals are subject to prosecution if they knowingly and willfully disclose classified information to someone they know is not authorized to receive it. Individuals convicted of improper disclosures would face a fine and up to three years imprisonment. This legislation does not preclude the use of other statutes such as the Espionage Act of 1917 or other applicable laws. Bonds bill only affects government employees and contractors or anyone who has signed a non-disclosure agreement with the federal government. It does not affect the media, businesses or private citizens and only pertains to information that has been properly and appropriately classified. Bonds bill is the exact language included previously in the FY 2001 intelligence authorization bill. The bill, including the leak language, was passed by Congress, but was vetoed by President Clinton. Bond introduced the legislation following damaging leaks to the media regarding critical intelligence programs used by the American government to track activities of suspected terrorists. American intelligence officials have said those leaks have caused very severe damage to Americas intelligence capabilities. Each one of these leaks gravely threatens our national security and makes it easier for our enemies to achieve their murderous and destructive plans, said Bond. Each violation of trust invites more chaos and violence into our world. Bonds bill is endorsed by the Association of Intelligence Officers, a 31-year-old organization comprised of 4,500 current and former intelligence professionals. # # #
Re: [cia-drugs] It is the Duty of Every American to Watch this Video!
Yes, this is pretty disgusting and important. You can see this movie and many more at my website www.pbsBlog.com It's there just for the purpose of putting information like this where it's very easy to get to. We all deserve the truth. Milo wrote: http://letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/index.php?module=announce&ANN_user_op=view&ANN_id=45 From: shane_digital shane_digital@yahoo.com Conspiracy of Silence Video - Banned by the U.S Congress - View Here - Or Download for Free - It is the Duty of Every American to Watch this Video! A True Story About Sex, Child Abuse, Murder and Drugs, Covered up By Authorities "Conspiracy of Silence", a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada and Toronto, Canada. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired F.B.I. chief, Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved. view video and full page of info here: http://letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/index.php?module=announce&ANN_user_op=view&ANN_id=45 Updated by: Phil_Jayhan on 07/20/2006 03:00 PM Expires: 01/01/2011 12:00 AM Conspiracy of Silence Video - Banned by the U.S Congress - View Here - Or Download for Free - It is the Duty of Every American to Watch this Video! Too see the entire Video, please click below. And make sure you share this with your friends and family. Any documentary that the US Congress doesn't want the people of America to find out about, is a MUST SEE! What is it they have hidden from us? The audio is a little poor, so make sure you turn your speakers up to maximum. To Watch the Entire Video - Please click here or click on Photo above Please click on the center arrow in the 'You Tube' Picture above to start the Video. It is 55 minutes in length. Or, you can download the entire video onto your hard drive in the link below. The sound quality is much better on the file below. Download the entire 41 megabyte file here Best Sound Track out of the 3 is Here! Or you can watch the film on Google Video at the link below! To Watch the Entire Video on Google Video here Conspiracy of Silence The Documentary "They" Don't Want You to See By Ted Gunderson Ted Gunderson.com Original Link: http://educate-yourself.org/tg/tgvideosandbooks1sep02.shtml September 1, 2002 A True Story About Sex, Child Abuse, Murder and Drugs, Covered up By Authorities “Conspiracy of Silence”, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada and Toronto, Canada. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired F.B.I. chief, Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved. Original link for article below from VoxFux: http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_child_sex_coverup/franklin.htm The following archive paints a chilling portrait of what is really going on in the upper echelons of the ruling elite here in America. The story involves children from orphanages in Nebraska being flown around the United States by top Republican officials in order to engage in child sex orgies with America's ruling elite. It is a fact that during the 1980's, child sexual services were provided by top Republican officials to key, bureaucrats and diplomats bu
[cia-drugs] MAUREEN DOWD : Henny Penny Harridan - Clinton Vs. Rumsfeld & More
MAUREEN DOWD : Henny Penny Harridan - Clinton Vs. Rumsfeld & MorePor MAUREEN DOWD - The New York Times - Saturday, Aug. 05, 2006 at 10:32 AM Dowd: Gladiatorial FightOP-ED COLUMNIST Henny Penny Harridan By MAUREEN DOWD Published: August 5, 2006 When Hillary Rodham Clinton and Donald Rumsfeld square off, it is a gladiatorial contest of two masters at self-righteousness, scriptedness, infighting and belief in their own manifest destiny. The enunciation of a clear sentence about the war in Iraq by Hillary Clinton means that there must be an election coming up. Until now, she has been unsubtly subtle about the most urgent issue facing the country, sending signals rightward, sending signals leftward, tacking here, tacking there. Some days she seemed to be signaling whether she intended to signal. But now, suddenly, shes a woman of passion, a model of concerned clarity. After an eon of calculated silence on most of the big moral questions of the day, there is a calculated breaking of the silence. The enigma wont play anymore. Its time for the drama. But the drama played like The Taming of the Shrew, with the only question being, who was the shrew? Continued: http://mparent.livejournal.com/10971459.html Test for War Crimes http://mparent.livejournal.com/10973147.html From Stars & Stripes: Sick men in power http://mparent.livejournal.com/10975275.html Today's Newswire has extensive coverage of the war on Lebanon http://mparent.livejournal.com/2006/08/05/ MARC PARENT CRIMES AND CORRUPTIONS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER NEWS http://mparent.livejournal.com/ http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/14409 http://www.dailykos.com/user/ccnwon Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! Mail. __._,_.___ Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM SPONSORED LINKS United state bankruptcy court western district of texas United state life insurance United state patent United state patent search United states patent office YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "cia-drugs" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[cia-drugs] Re: C.I.A. Worker Says Message on Torture Got Her Fired
Message to All Army Interrogators Hey guys, I read the latest Esquire magazine where an Army interrogator talked about interrogation techniques they used. It was shocking, but not entirely surprising. What Econo-Girl found surprising was that the interrogators were being lied to by military attorneys.The Army interrogators were told that the Geneva Conventions didn't apply to the people they were questioning. Why? Because the Attorney General said so. Now of course, no other U.S. Attorney General has ever held that opinion and no court has ever agreed with him, but never mind. The non-attorney interrogators were told that if anyone went to prison for what they were doing, it would be the lawyers telling them it was OK.Come, now. You're sober, right? How could you possibly believe that? When has a pencil-necked attorney ever stuck his head out? Believe Econo-Girl when she tells you that if you did it, you will be nailed for it. Wasn't Ollie North? Except you won't be getting a radio show out of the deal. After all, you'll be a torturer. Who would want to get behind that?A little escape to the beach has done a lot to clarify things for Econo-Girl. Most of the post that started this whole mess was about outlining the law to non-attorneys who might be put in compromising legal positions. I saw it as a way of empowering them to say 'no' to prison for themselves. In retrospect, that's what got me fired. Not the sentence fragment that everyone is so hysterical about. I was going to expose the legal lie. The Importance of Being Earnest When Econo-Girl made the ill-fated decision to criticize torture she was being a naive fool. After all, hadn't the DoD and the CIA both decided to adhere to the Geneva Conventions? I really meant what I said, but apparantly they did not. Hence, the termination of employment.Ah, well. What's done is done and there are no regrets, although a little pain. At a certain point in one's spiritual development, beliefs and actions must agree. That, in the end, is what happened. It was a process I didn't have full control of. There was a lot of profit in compartmentalization, after all.Econo-Girl has the full support of many in the intelligence field. She knows this because she is continually approached and thanked for her outspokeness. I thank you in return. Your words of support have meant a lot to me. Refuting a Defense of Torture: Saving Lives A couple of recurring arguements are made to defend the practice of torture, one of which is that if it will save lives. Such a discussion often goes like this:"So if some guy knows about an attack, and torture will get him to talk, it will save lives. So torture is OK then."The fallacy of that point is it rarely is the case that the government knows exactly who knows of an impending attack. How is it that you are going to know the guy sitting in front of you has the information to save lives? These terrorist cells practice compartmentalization of information, so only a few will know enough details to tip off authorities. How could someone tell if they have that guy in custody? Of course, they won't. So what are the options then? An interrogator could torture every person who hits the radar screen of suspicion. You know, just in case. And the whole time tell himself that he is saving lives. Another option is to choose someone who seems like a leader, and torture that guy until something good comes out. Of course, such things tend to be self-fulfilling prophesies. This entire point of view is supported by the belief that people tell the truth under physical duress. How about that they will tell you anything to get the pain to stop? That seems more likely. http://www.econo-girl.blogspot.com/ --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Arlene Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Re: [cia-drugs] C.I.A. Worker Says Message on Torture Got Her Fired Ms. Axsmith is a patriot, not unlike me.Peace,Arlene JohnsonPublisher/Authorhttp://www.truedemocracy.net --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "norgesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: C.I.A. Worker Says Message on Torture Got Her Fired http://graphics10.nytimes.com/images/2006/07/22/us/22intel600.jpg Christine Axsmith, keeper of a blog on a secret computer network used by American intelligence agencies. By MARK MAZZETTI Published: July 22, 2006 WASHINGTON, July 21 — A contract employee working for the Central Intelligence Agency said she had been fired recently for posting a message on a classified computer server that said an interrogation technique used by the agency against some terror suspects amounted to torture. The employee, Christine Axsmith, kept the “Covert Communications” blog on a top-secret computer network used by American intelligence agencies. Ms. Axsmith was fired on Monday after C.I.A. officials objected to a message that criticized the interrogation technique called “waterboarding,” a particularly
Re: [cia-drugs] C.I.A. Worker Says Message on Torture Got Her Fired
Ms. Axsmith is a patriot, not unlike me. Peace, Arlene Johnson Publisher/Author http://www.truedemocracy.net -Original Message- >From: norgesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Aug 4, 2006 2:11 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [cia-drugs] C.I.A. Worker Says Message on Torture Got Her Fired > >C.I.A. Worker Says Message on Torture Got Her Fired > > >http://graphics10.nytimes.com/images/2006/07/22/us/22intel600.jpg > >Christine Axsmith, keeper of a blog on a secret computer network used by >American intelligence agencies. > >By MARK MAZZETTI >Published: July 22, 2006 >WASHINGTON, July 21 ? A contract employee working for the Central Intelligence >Agency said she had been fired recently for posting a message on a classified >computer server that said an interrogation technique used by the agency >against some terror suspects amounted to torture. > >The employee, Christine Axsmith, kept the ?Covert Communications? blog on a >top-secret computer network used by American intelligence agencies. Ms. >Axsmith was fired on Monday after C.I.A. officials objected to a message that >criticized the interrogation technique called ?waterboarding,? a particularly >harsh practice that the C.I.A. is known to have used on Khalid Sheik Mohammed, >who is widely regarded as the mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks. > >The episode has opened a window into the new world of classified blogging: an >experimental effort being carried out in top-secret computer forums where >information and ideas are shared across the intelligence community. >Intelligence officials said that since last year, more than 1,000 blogs had >been set up on classified intelligence servers. > >Ms. Axsmith, a computer security expert with a law degree, posted the message >this month, shortly after the Bush administration decided to grant some >protections of the Geneva Conventions to suspected terrorists in American >custody. She said that her message began, ?Waterboarding is torture, and >torture is wrong.? > >Ms. Axsmith?s firing was earlier reported on several blogs including >Wonkette.com on Thursday, and in Friday?s Washington Post. > >?I wanted an in-house discussion,? Ms. Axsmith said in an interview on >Thursday in her home in Washington. ?Something where I would be educating >people on the background of the Geneva Conventions.? > >Instead, Ms. Axsmith was fired by her employer, B.A.E. Systems, which has an >information technology contract with the C.I.A. > >Ms. Axsmith said C.I.A. officials had confronted her and told her that the >agency?s senior leadership was angry about the blog, which was housed on >Intelink, the classified server maintained by the American intelligence >community to aid communication among its employees. > >Besides losing her job, Ms. Axsmith also lost her top-secret security >clearance, which she had held since 1993 and used for previous work for the >State Department and National Counterterrorism Center. > >She said she feared that her career in the intelligence world was over. ?It >was like I was wiped out,? she said. > >A spokesman for B.A.E. Systems, Bob Hastings, said privacy issues prohibited >him from commenting on Ms. Axsmith?s firing. But Mr. Hastings said that >company policy prohibited employees from using computers for non-official >purposes. > >Paul Gimigliano, a C.I.A. spokesman, said that the blogs were intended to >?encourage collaboration? on business issues but that postings ?should relate >directly to the official business of the author and readers of the Web site.? > >The C.I.A. denies that it uses torture to extract information from prisoners, >although a 2004 report by the agency?s inspector general concluded that some >of its interrogation practices appeared to constitute cruel, inhuman and >degrading treatment. > >In waterboarding, the interrogation technique that Ms. Axsmith criticized, a >prisoner is strapped to a board and then made to feel as if he is drowning. > >In March 2005, Porter J. Goss, who was then the C.I.A. director, described >waterboarding as a ?professional interrogation technique?; American military >pilots and commandos are known to have been subjected to it during highly >classified training regimes designed to prepare them to live in captivity. > >The use of the practice, along with the agency?s detention of approximately >three dozen ?high value detainees? in secret jails, has made some C.I.A. >employees uneasy and has prompted a debate within the intelligence community. > >Ms. Axsmith said she believed that the ?vast majority? of people working for >the C.I.A. were opposed to torture. > >And, she said that she believed that the classified blogs could be a critical >tool to allow C.I.A. employees ? who are often prohibited from discussing >their work even with other agency officials ? to vent frustrations. > >?The blogs are a safety valve for people to discuss controversial topics,? she >said. ?
[cia-drugs] Hezbollah Clones Formula Not Clash Code
http://globetrotter.berkeley.edu/people2/Nasr/nasr-con5.htmlVali Nasr, 2002Iran's revolutionary leader, Ayatollah Ali Khomeini, was following a strategy which is very much like the strategy of Hezbollah, namely to focus attention on the Israeli-Palestinian issue and to try to divert attention from the Shia-Sunni issue. And Hezbollah sort of emerged, if you would, as a reaction to Amal, as a way of saying: "Look, Shia power in Lebanon cannot rise against the grain of Arab politics, which is anti-Israeli. It has to rise by taking over that cause." And that's exactly what Hezbollah is doing today. A Shiite organization has come and taken over the Palestinian cause, and that is what angers Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and other predominantly Sunni nations so much.They were also able to get a following on the street because the perception grew among the Shiites in the south that Israel was not going to leave, and that the Shiites in the south were going to end up like the Palestinians in the West Bank did. Israel was worried that if it left south Lebanon too quickly the PLO would come back because there was a political vacuum after they crushed the PLO. But Israel's single biggest mistake was not to withdraw quickly because once a country's stuck on the ground, very quickly liberator became occupier.Why do you think Iran provided Hezbollah with so many missiles unless it really wanted Hezbollah to take on Israel?First of all, they want to preserve Hezbollah. It is the one major success case they have had in building and in getting basically a foothold in the Arab world since the 1980s. Iraq's new government is not as close to Iran as Hezbollah is. There are a lot of people among Iran's military leadership now who have trained Hezbollah. They have a personal, organizational relationship, and there is a relationship between clerics that has spawned since Khomeini took over power. So Iran will continue to help Hezbollah. And Iran is also caught in a situation where once you become associated with a force, which it has been since the 1980s, if that force gets defeated, you are going to pay a political cost. It's kind of like the dilemma the Soviets were stuck in. Once a country became Communist, they could not allow it to be lostthat's what got them into trouble in Afghanistan.Second, Iran has begun to look at Hezbollah and Hamas essentially as a part of its confrontation with Israel for regional hegemony. In other words, it looks at these organizations as ways of creating an irritant to Israel, diverting Israel's attention, bogging Israel down in local conflicts. In other words, they do serve a strategic purpose for Iran. Iran may not have nuclear weapons to threaten Israel, but it has Hamas and Hezbollah. So they're bargaining chips, they're irritants. And thirdly, in this conflict it's not just the missiles. Iran has given Hezbollah a particular kind of weapons systems, so Israelis and Americans will see what Iran has.What do you think will happen now as far as the nuclear confrontation with the Security Council goes? Do you think Iran might compromise on the negotiations, or is that not likely?Basically Iran is stronger now, and the United States' hand is weaker, partly because the United States and the Security Council members are still bogged down in getting it together. And in getting the Lebanon situation stabilized, the West is going to be far less able to deal with Iran. Secondly, Hezbollah is still standing. Th[ese] early goal[s] of destroying it and disarming it are not likely to be achieved. By the time of the cease-fire what the United States and Israel are going to get out of the cease-fire will be far short of the goals they probably set for themselves when the war began about a month ago.Much more important is that Hezbollah and Iran are now widely popular on the Arab street. All of this makes Iran's hand a lot stronger and the United States' a lot more constricted. In other words, if you looked at Lebanon you would say: "Well, military action against Iran is not likely to be easy. If Hezbollah is this tenacious, Iran is going to be worse." Air wars cannot finish things off. Israel cannot finish Hezbollah with an air war, nor will the United States be able to damage the Iranian regime with an air war. The Lebanese population has not risen in revolt against Hezbollahthe opposite is happening. That could also be the case in Iran as well.Does Iran really want to negotiate normalization of relations?I think that's what Iran wants. It doesn't want to negotiate about nuclear weapons. It doesn't want to negotiate about Iraq. It wants to guarantee its own regime's survival, and regime survival will only happen if there is some kind of engagement with the United States that is going to de-escalate the tensions in that relationship. If Iran only negotiated over nuclear weapons, they give something, they get something, and then the next morning the United States is still committed to changing the regime in Tehra
[cia-drugs] Crusader Meme
http://globetrotter.berkeley.edu/people2/Nasr/nasr-con5.html Vali Nasr, 2002 The problem with Huntington's approach is that it essentially removes politics from politics. In other words, there's no more politics. We're all guided by what we're born into and that decides all politics, which is to say that the U.S. will behave always in a particular way, irrespective of what its interests are, which I don't think is true. And it also presupposes that fundamentalists or Muslims will always behave in ways which are prescribed by culture, rather than interests. Huntington misses on a point, that the reasons the Muslims are behaving in this way is not cultural. It's because the methodology that Khomeini put forward offered an enormous amount of political dividend. The approach he took against the United States popularized him in the Muslim world, allowed him to galvanize power and consolidate power in Iran, enabled him to achieve many things. Whereas, fundamentalism has yet to face a defeat for fundamentalists to recalibrate and respond differently. But fundamentalists, just like Americans, when they are operating in a political environment, look at what works and what doesn't work, whether fists raised in the air with slogans work, or they don't work. We're seeing this in Turkey right now. The leading candidate for prime minister in Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, was put in jail for being an Islamists a number of years back. He wants to be Prime Minister of Turkey. He knows it's possible through the elections, so he came out and said, "I never was an Islamist. I support joining the European Union, and I don't want to change anything in our relationship with the United States." He is actually now more pro-American than the secular Leftist Party that's in power. So Huntington's theory, basically, is so high-level, it's such an overarching framework of analysis, that it basically is close-circuited. It has no room for any kind of political analysis. And, ultimately, the way out of here will be through politics. In other words, there has to be a reward and retribution environment in which Muslims will begin to make political choices that would make it inclusive in mainstream global politics. Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
