Re: [CinCVS] audio question

2007-05-04 Thread Kurt Georg Hooss

so that means the camera has the avi file already in itself?
what kind of storage medium does it record to? sure it is 24 fps?
is it a sort of photo camera that can also record short videos?

as for the square wave forms, maybe the amplitude is so large
that the sound waves peak out of the amplification range
and are thus cropped in the boundaries?

so far i have worked only with mini dv, pal format,
so... i must admit i feel a bit helpless in your case.
anybody else here experienced with that format?

sorry... good luck anyway... georg


On Friday, 4. May 2007 01:26, Adam Moes L.Ac. MSTCM wrote:
 great, Georg

 I am using the community version that came preloaded with Dyne:Bolic

 My audio came with the video in an avi. file that my nifty little samsung
 camera records in.

 I just transferee the files from the cameras memory and import to cinelerra

 it records in 640 x 480 at 24 fps is a codec that used to be proprietary to
 Pegasus
 but I actually don't know which codec or sample rate the audio is coming in
 with

 my Xine player plays the audio and video from those clips perfectly

 so maybe I have to configure the preferences for audio is some way to get
 the sound ok


 thanks

 On 5/3/07, Kurt Georg Hooss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  o.k. hallo  welcome.
  first, this is the community version's mailing list.
 
  second, how did you import your audio?
  are you saying you managed to import directly from the camera into
  cinelerra?
  that would be quite a heroic deed indeed, so please tell us. :-)
 
  cheers, georg
 
  On Thursday, 3. May 2007 19:33, Adam Moes L.Ac. MSTCM wrote:
   Hello
  
   I am so happy to be cutting on Open Source software now
  
   first question...
   is this mail list for the community version or Heroine version or both?
  
  
   next is audio
   I am using footage imported from my Samsung digital camera
   the picture is fine
   but the audio has square looking wave forms and sounds like square wave
   forms
  
   it is probably something to do with my audio preferences
  
   my operating system is Dyne:bolic that has alsa audio
  
   as well as Jack
  
   I guess you would say I am a linux noobi
   so go easy on me
 
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Re: [CinCVS] audio question

2007-05-04 Thread Valentina Messeri

:)

try to import in kino your shooting, then export dv or dv avi or dv mov.

Gluck

Vale



so that means the camera has the avi file already in itself?
what kind of storage medium does it record to? sure it is 24 fps?
is it a sort of photo camera that can also record short videos?

as for the square wave forms, maybe the amplitude is so large
that the sound waves peak out of the amplification range
and are thus cropped in the boundaries?

so far i have worked only with mini dv, pal format,
so... i must admit i feel a bit helpless in your case.
anybody else here experienced with that format?

sorry... good luck anyway... georg


On Friday, 4. May 2007 01:26, Adam Moes L.Ac. MSTCM wrote:

great, Georg

I am using the community version that came preloaded with Dyne:Bolic

My audio came with the video in an avi. file that my nifty little samsung
camera records in.

I just transferee the files from the cameras memory and import to cinelerra

it records in 640 x 480 at 24 fps is a codec that used to be proprietary to
Pegasus
but I actually don't know which codec or sample rate the audio is coming in
with

my Xine player plays the audio and video from those clips perfectly

so maybe I have to configure the preferences for audio is some way to get
the sound ok


thanks

On 5/3/07, Kurt Georg Hooss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 o.k. hallo  welcome.
 first, this is the community version's mailing list.

 second, how did you import your audio?
 are you saying you managed to import directly from the camera into
 cinelerra?
 that would be quite a heroic deed indeed, so please tell us. :-)

 cheers, georg

 On Thursday, 3. May 2007 19:33, Adam Moes L.Ac. MSTCM wrote:
  Hello
 
  I am so happy to be cutting on Open Source software now
 
  first question...
  is this mail list for the community version or Heroine version or both?
 
 
  next is audio
  I am using footage imported from my Samsung digital camera
  the picture is fine
  but the audio has square looking wave forms and sounds like square wave
  forms
 
  it is probably something to do with my audio preferences
 
  my operating system is Dyne:bolic that has alsa audio
 
  as well as Jack
 
  I guess you would say I am a linux noobi
  so go easy on me

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Re: [CinCVS] X11-OpenGL slower than X11-XV ???

2007-05-04 Thread mark stavar

Alas,

It would appear that, though my card and glxinfo _say_ they support
OpenGL 2.0, it would appear that in fact they do not.  (GeForce FX
5700 256Mb)

Definitely, any time I attempt to do anything that might be vaguely
OpenGL related (fades, dissolves, etc), their is a CPU spike and 60+
percent drop in frame rate.

Sigh.

Might have to fork for some new hardware.  Does leave me a little
confused though as to exactly what glxinfo is reporting.

Ciao,

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Re: [CinCVS] audio question

2007-05-04 Thread Adam Moes L.Ac. MSTCM

thanks kids

yes I popped a 500mb sd card in  my cute little Samsung Digimax A402 and it
will record around 15min of 640x480 video at 24 fps

i'll try lowering the audio input levels
but it doesn't look like clipping as there are squarish wave forms of all
different sizes showing up.

I'll also try passing though kino.




thanks




On 5/4/07, Valentina Messeri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


:)

try to import in kino your shooting, then export dv or dv avi or dv mov.

Gluck

Vale


 so that means the camera has the avi file already in itself?
 what kind of storage medium does it record to? sure it is 24 fps?
 is it a sort of photo camera that can also record short videos?

 as for the square wave forms, maybe the amplitude is so large
 that the sound waves peak out of the amplification range
 and are thus cropped in the boundaries?

 so far i have worked only with mini dv, pal format,
 so... i must admit i feel a bit helpless in your case.
 anybody else here experienced with that format?

 sorry... good luck anyway... georg


 On Friday, 4. May 2007 01:26, Adam Moes L.Ac. MSTCM wrote:
 great, Georg

 I am using the community version that came preloaded with Dyne:Bolic

 My audio came with the video in an avi. file that my nifty little
samsung
 camera records in.

 I just transferee the files from the cameras memory and import to
cinelerra

 it records in 640 x 480 at 24 fps is a codec that used to be
proprietary to
 Pegasus
 but I actually don't know which codec or sample rate the audio is
coming in
 with

 my Xine player plays the audio and video from those clips perfectly

 so maybe I have to configure the preferences for audio is some way to
get
 the sound ok


 thanks

 On 5/3/07, Kurt Georg Hooss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  o.k. hallo  welcome.
  first, this is the community version's mailing list.
 
  second, how did you import your audio?
  are you saying you managed to import directly from the camera into
  cinelerra?
  that would be quite a heroic deed indeed, so please tell us. :-)
 
  cheers, georg
 
  On Thursday, 3. May 2007 19:33, Adam Moes L.Ac. MSTCM wrote:
   Hello
  
   I am so happy to be cutting on Open Source software now
  
   first question...
   is this mail list for the community version or Heroine version or
both?
  
  
   next is audio
   I am using footage imported from my Samsung digital camera
   the picture is fine
   but the audio has square looking wave forms and sounds like square
wave
   forms
  
   it is probably something to do with my audio preferences
  
   my operating system is Dyne:bolic that has alsa audio
  
   as well as Jack
  
   I guess you would say I am a linux noobi
   so go easy on me
 
  --
 
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  tel. +49-(0)451-3003-474
  www.schoepfung-und-wandel.de
 
 
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[CinCVS] where have all the dev files gone?

2007-05-04 Thread Adam Moes L.Ac. MSTCM

Cinelerra is not getting audio right and Kino is not importing or doing much
of anything as there is no dev files for video that are working.

this might be a question for my operating system maillist.

thanks





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Re: [CinCVS] audio question

2007-05-04 Thread IL'dar AKHmetgaleev
На Fri, 4 May 2007 14:24:14 +
Adam Moes L.Ac. MSTCM [EMAIL PROTECTED] записано:

 thanks kids
 
 yes I popped a 500mb sd card in  my cute little Samsung Digimax A402
 and it will record around 15min of 640x480 video at 24 fps
 
 i'll try lowering the audio input levels
 but it doesn't look like clipping as there are squarish wave forms of
 all different sizes showing up.
 
 I'll also try passing though kino.

You can also try to convert your footage with ffmpeg or mencoder. 
Something like:

$ ffmpeg -i input.avi -vcodec copy -acodec pcm_s16le output.avi

or

$ mencoder input.avi -ovc copy -oac pcm -o output.avi



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Re: [CinCVS] audio question

2007-05-04 Thread Adam Moes L.Ac. MSTCM

ok

i'll try

On 5/4/07, IL'dar AKHmetgaleev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


На Fri, 4 May 2007 14:24:14 +
Adam Moes L.Ac. MSTCM [EMAIL PROTECTED] записано:

 thanks kids

 yes I popped a 500mb sd card in  my cute little Samsung Digimax A402
 and it will record around 15min of 640x480 video at 24 fps

 i'll try lowering the audio input levels
 but it doesn't look like clipping as there are squarish wave forms of
 all different sizes showing up.

 I'll also try passing though kino.

You can also try to convert your footage with ffmpeg or mencoder.
Something like:

$ ffmpeg -i input.avi -vcodec copy -acodec pcm_s16le output.avi

or

$ mencoder input.avi -ovc copy -oac pcm -o output.avi



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Re: [CinCVS] X11-OpenGL slower than X11-XV ???

2007-05-04 Thread Johannes Sixt
On Friday 04 May 2007 14:53, mark stavar wrote:
 Alas,

 It would appear that, though my card and glxinfo _say_ they support
 OpenGL 2.0, it would appear that in fact they do not.  (GeForce FX
 5700 256Mb)

If glxinfo says OpenGL 2.0 is supported, it does not necessarily mean that 
it's supported in hardware.

 Definitely, any time I attempt to do anything that might be vaguely
 OpenGL related (fades, dissolves, etc), their is a CPU spike and 60+
 percent drop in frame rate.

Almost all OpenGL accelerations use shader programs, and I don't think that a 
FX 5700 has shaders. Dissolve is one of the few that do not use a shader 
program, but it uses some sort of texture-to-texture rendering, which may be 
a feature that only newer hardware supports, so your driver falls back to 
software rendering.

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Re: [CinCVS] where have all the dev files gone?

2007-05-04 Thread Kevin Brosius
On 2007-05-04 14:55, Adam Moes L.Ac. MSTCM wrote:
 Cinelerra is not getting audio right and Kino is not importing or doing much
 of anything as there is no dev files for video that are working.
 

What distro?  Newer Linux kernels support a dynamic dev filesystem.  Are
you trying to play audio or capture video?

For video capture, I would expect the /dev nodes to be created when a
firewire device is plugged in, if they do not pre-exist.  On an older
distro, you may need to do the mknod commands manually.  There's some
info about this on the project pages for ieee1394, I think.


 this might be a question for my operating system maillist.

Yes. :)  Although some here have probably had the same trouble.


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Re: [CinCVS] where have all the dev files gone?

2007-05-04 Thread Adam Moes L.Ac. MSTCM

thanks

I'm using dyne:bolic 2.4.2

but may have to go with Kubuntu
for the community support

I'm new to Linux




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On 2007-05-04 14:55, Adam Moes L.Ac. MSTCM wrote:
 Cinelerra is not getting audio right and Kino is not importing or doing
much
 of anything as there is no dev files for video that are working.


What distro?  Newer Linux kernels support a dynamic dev filesystem.  Are
you trying to play audio or capture video?

For video capture, I would expect the /dev nodes to be created when a
firewire device is plugged in, if they do not pre-exist.  On an older
distro, you may need to do the mknod commands manually.  There's some
info about this on the project pages for ieee1394, I think.


 this might be a question for my operating system maillist.

Yes. :)  Although some here have probably had the same trouble.


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Re: [CinCVS] X11-OpenGL slower than X11-XV ???

2007-05-04 Thread Graham Evans

mark stavar wrote:

Alas,

It would appear that, though my card and glxinfo _say_ they support
OpenGL 2.0, it would appear that in fact they do not.  (GeForce FX
5700 256Mb)
I seem to remember looking into this and discovering that the Geforce 
5xxx series only support OpenGL 2.0 with software/emulation of some 
functions.  I also read that you need to put a line in your xorg.conf to 
enable this but perhaps with newer nvidia  drivers that isn't 
neccessary.  You might need to do some googling and/or buy a new card.


Some cinelerra functionality won't be accelerated on OpenGL anyway.  
Somewhere there is a list of which effects get accelerated (try the 
manual).  The order of processing in the effects chain also impacts on 
whether the OpenGL is effective. 


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