Re: [CinCVS] Two camera editing method - howto
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 15:59 -0500, Timothy Baldridge wrote: > Is this captured from a digital video camera? If so there may be a > problem with dropped frames during the capture or with the Cinelerra's > playback engine. Otherwise, you're in for fun. Basically, doing any > sort of multi-cam with analog cameras is a really bad idea, that is, > if you value your sanity. Better not tell all the people who have been doing it for years, nay decades. Jeff - spend a bit of time figuring out how the track arming works. you can arm only the video track and play about with that while the audio stays the same. That way you can just play out the A roll with the interviewee while you drop in bits of the B roll. In general you don't want to cut from B to A exactly on questions, because it just looks shit. Instead, you should cut back to the interviewer occasionally (noddy shots), cut during the question or if it's a short question leave the shot on the interviewee. Play with it and see what works for you, but don't forget to watch a lot - a *lot* - of interviews to see how they work! I found it's easiest if you've got the audio from both mikes on one camera but if you didn't shoot that way, don't worry about it. If you're using a single camera, try and find a reference point for the interviewee's eyeline - that way you can shoot the noddy shots with another member of the crew or a lighting stand with a bit of tape or something standing in for your interviewee. Gordon ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Still Pictures not exactly in the manual
My version of Cinelerra does not recognise .jpg and .png extentions for some reason. For still images, it only recognises .ifo and one other. I have attempted loading .jpg and .png stills as all files, but they fail to load. The extension renaming method for .png seems to work fine for Cinelerra, so I really have nothing to complain about. I just thought I'd mention this because the manual is not specific. It's possible that the Cinelerra that I'm using is just plain screwy. Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:32:54 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Randolph wrote: > .png extension to .ifo, everything is fine. Then I can load, drag and > drop all I want. The manual mentions nothing of this. Why are you renaming any kind of still image file to .ifo? That extension is for DVD metadata; I would strongly suggest that you leave your .jpg files named .jpg and your .png files named .png. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] most of the php files are all static!
Hi, I was wondering if anyone know's why (a number of) the php files are all static at the website? Some time ago I moved the html files to php files, and moved the sidemenu index to a single php file that was included (so editing of the side menu only needed to be performed once.) For some reason this has been undone? Pierre ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Re: [CVS] SVN Commit History
Hi, rafael2k wrote: > hi all, > I think the svn commit history stopped at r1005... > > bye! > rafael diniz FIXED. I am still not on the mailing list (soo please reply to my address, not the list address) but I browse archives from time to time and noticed this message. I just logged onto skolelinux, and found that the php file that I spent a little while writing has been overwritten with static content! Luckily, at one stage I had gitified that directory so have managed to restore it. j6t: BTW: the git binaries in ~j6t/bin/ aren't working anymore, I had to scp the .git dir home to extract the file... if you recompile, I'd be most appreciative.. ta, Pierre ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Re: A better MPEG-2 encoding than HDV
Unavoidable a typo, corrected 2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] below to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm in touch with a fabricator planning an Anolog to MPEG-2/1394 unit supporting also Linux. I've suggested to also include a HDMI IN on this unit, making it even more useable. When Sony V1/FX7 is operating, the EIP generates uncompressed 1440x1080i with a color 4:2:2 color space. Digital 4:2:2 data are output via HDMI port while 4:2:2 analog is output via component out. Therefore I've suggested for this fabricator which isn't limited to 25Mbps datarate on DV tapes (DV25 or 1080i HDV) to preferably also make use of a higher bitrate over 1394 and a better MPEG-2 encoding. HDV applies the [EMAIL PROTECTED] profile, 1440x1080 or 1280x720 resolution, 4:2:0 color sampling and 25Mbps (out of max 60 Mbps defined) bitrate. 1) The better MPEG-2 profile for possibly HDMI IN I think of is [EMAIL PROTECTED], the same 1440x1080 or 1280x720 resolution, and better 4:2:2 color sampling. Here is also Sony's XDCAM HD 4:2:2 with datarate 50 Mbps (out of max 80 Mbps defined). 2) A better MPEG-2 profile for Analog IN I think of is [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 720x480 or 720x576 resolution at 30fps/25fps, 4:2:2 color sampling at up to 50Mbps (i.e Sony IMX using I-frame only) Can Cinelerra use the MPEG-2 formats 1) and 2) above? Which formats does Cinelerra really support? Other viewpoints and suggestions? Rgds, Terje ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] A better MPEG-2 encoding than HDV
I'm in touch with a fabricator planning an Anolog to MPEG-2/1394 unit supporting also Linux. I've suggested to also include a HDMI IN on this unit, making it even more useable. When Sony V1/FX7 is operating, the EIP generates uncompressed 1440x1080i with a color 4:2:2 color space. Digital 4:2:2 data are output via HDMI port while 4:2:2 analog is output via component out. Therefore I've suggested for this fabricator which isn't limited to 25Mbps datarate on DV tapes (DV25 or 1080i HDV) to preferably also make use of a higher bitrate over 1394 and a better MPEG-2 encoding. HDV applies the [EMAIL PROTECTED] profile, 1440x1080 or 1280x720 resolution, 4:2:0 color sampling and 25Mbps (out of max 60 Mbps defined) bitrate. 1) The better MPEG-2 profile for possibly HDMI IN I think of is [EMAIL PROTECTED], the same 1440x1080 or 1280x720 resolution, and better 4:2:2 color sampling. Here is also Sony's XDCAM HD 4:2:2 with datarate 50 Mbps (out of max 80 Mbps defined). 2) A better MPEG-2 profile for Analog IN I think of is [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 720x480 or 720x576 resolution at 30fps/25fps, 4:2:2 color sampling at up to 50Mbps (i.e Sony IMX using I-frame only) Can Cinelerra use the MPEG-2 formats 1) and 2) above? Which formats does Cinelerra really support? Other viewpoints and suggestions? Rgds, Terje ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Two camera editing method - howto
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Timothy Baldridge wrote: > Is this captured from a digital video camera? If so there may be a > problem with dropped frames during the capture or with the Cinelerra's > playback engine. Otherwise, you're in for fun. Basically, doing any > sort of multi-cam with analog cameras is a really bad idea, that is, > if you value your sanity. If each video track has its own synced audio track(s) and it's an interview, you could probably just arm both the audio and video tracks, and assemble your interview by cutting and pasting chunks from the appropriate audio along with the video, instead of trying to sync the two video tracks to each other and cut between them. You could even apply a fast crossfade as the default audio transition to smooth out any clicks created by the audio cutting. Syncing between the two video tracks is only necessary if you really need to avoid cutting the audio. -- Matthew Skala [EMAIL PROTECTED]Embrace and defend. http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/ ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Two camera editing method - howto
Is this captured from a digital video camera? If so there may be a problem with dropped frames during the capture or with the Cinelerra's playback engine. Otherwise, you're in for fun. Basically, doing any sort of multi-cam with analog cameras is a really bad idea, that is, if you value your sanity. Timothy -- "They redundantly repeated themselves over and over again incessantly without end ad infinitum" -- ibid. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Two camera editing method - howto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Jeff Gerritsen schreef: > I have a two camera interview I'm trying to edit, one camera always on the > interviewer and one camera always on the interviewee. I want to edit both > files into one file where the interviewee says something, then cut to the > interviewer, then back to the interviewee when he says something, etc, etc... > > What is the best method to perform this in cinelerra? > > For example, I have tried placing both video and audio tracks on the timeline > (six tracks in total). The top video track is the interviewee with related > audio tracks. On the bottom is the interviewers video and audio tracks. I > use the audio tracks to align the timeline for sync purposes. When played > in the compositor window, timing between video and audio is way off and > within a few minuets of playing editing becomes impossible. > > Any suggestions? > > Background info: > Cinelerra version 2.1 CV > Build date: Tue Jan 9th, 11:15:03 EST 2007 > Quicktime version: 2.2.0 external ffmpeg > Libmpeg3 version 1.7.0 If you are absolutely frame synced with the audio. Just align them, and make make tracks transparent on keyframes. Now you say you are not, and you are @#$(&@#. Is the audio of the interviewee and interviewer serperate? Then just make hard cuts: [question][answer] and add them on one track, maybe two so you can make a nice face nods etc. ;) Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGZccIYH1+F2Rqwn0RCggPAJ9l0r4oekxN/Ji1FnSR/l0VsPTIyQCfSY1R pYpFuJ/+vmyckECqfp27Dt0= =ax0M -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Two camera editing method - howto
I have a two camera interview I'm trying to edit, one camera always on the interviewer and one camera always on the interviewee. I want to edit both files into one file where the interviewee says something, then cut to the interviewer, then back to the interviewee when he says something, etc, etc... What is the best method to perform this in cinelerra? For example, I have tried placing both video and audio tracks on the timeline (six tracks in total). The top video track is the interviewee with related audio tracks. On the bottom is the interviewers video and audio tracks. I use the audio tracks to align the timeline for sync purposes. When played in the compositor window, timing between video and audio is way off and within a few minuets of playing editing becomes impossible. Any suggestions? Background info: Cinelerra version 2.1 CV Build date: Tue Jan 9th, 11:15:03 EST 2007 Quicktime version: 2.2.0 external ffmpeg Libmpeg3 version 1.7.0 Thanks, Jeff Gerritsen ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Still Pictures not exactly in the manual
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Randolph wrote: > .png extension to .ifo, everything is fine. Then I can load, drag and > drop all I want. The manual mentions nothing of this. Why are you renaming any kind of still image file to .ifo? That extension is for DVD metadata; I would strongly suggest that you leave your .jpg files named .jpg and your .png files named .png. -- Matthew Skala [EMAIL PROTECTED]Embrace and defend. http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/ ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Still Pictures not exactly in the manual
I know the cinelerra manual speaks of using still pictures. The thing is - I've learned that I can't use any old picture; it has to be from a .png file. When I try renaming the extension from a .jpg file to .ifo, then I try loading that file, cinelerra completely crashes - I mean dissappears along with any work if I didn't save it. When I rename the .png extension to .ifo, everything is fine. Then I can load, drag and drop all I want. The manual mentions nothing of this. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] SVN Commit History
rafael2k wrote: > hi all, > I think the svn commit history stopped at r1005... > > bye! > rafael diniz > Alternative: http://www.pipapo.org/gitweb?p=cinelerra/svn;a=log ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] SVN Commit History
hi all, I think the svn commit history stopped at r1005... bye! rafael diniz -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Eng. da Computação @ Unicamp Rádio Muda, radiolivre.org, TV Piolho, tvlivre.org, www.midiaindependente.org Chave PGP: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2FF86098 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- pgpSt21JxDsGh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [CinCVS] cinlerra install
hi douglas, i compiled cinelerra on ubuntustudio and made this packaging: deb http://giss.tv/~vale/ubuntuopengl/ ./ should works with opengl, if nvidia and opengl stuff are working ok ciao! Vale Christian Thaeter wrote: Douglas Pollard wrote: I have not been able to get cinelerra to install in ubuntu studios i386 with synaptic. click applications, sound video, shows an icon for it but it won't open. And it shows as installed in synaptic. In add/remove it does not show up as installed? Has anyone been able to install this way. doug The AMD package for feisty is known to be broken (aborts with "Illegal Instruction"), hopefully fixed soon. In the meantime you can install the generic (i686?) package or try to build cinelerra by yourself (needs a lot build dependencies) Christian ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra Christian, I have not attempted compiling yet and it apears that cinelerre would be a lrge undertaking, more than I care to tacked just now. I now have Ubuntu Studio installed are you saying take it out and try the regular Ubuntu Feisty 7.04 but in (i686) in it's place then install cinelerra (i686)? Yes I got an error message in Ubuntu studio terminal Illegal instruction. Core dumped. Doug ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra http://encosianima.net/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] ANNOUNCE: anonymous pushable git repository for cinelerra
It happens sometimes that people send new patches/bufixes to this ML which eventually might get forgotten. To offer a chance that such things are picked easily up somewhere. I created a 'mob' repository on my server where anyone can push patches anonymously. Little HowTo: # first clone the repository # (use the --reference option when you already have any other # git clone of a cinelerra repo) git clone git://git.pipapo.org/cinelerra/mob my_cinelerra cd my_cinelerra # then create a branch for your work git checkout -b yourbranchname # work and commit ..hack..hack..hack git commit ... # send it to my server, maybe with some branch description, # see the git-push manpage git push --all IMPORTANT: Do not trust the code in this repository, anyone could add potentially dangerous code, review every foreign commit before run anything (autogen.sh, ./configure). I'd suggest to use gpg signed tags when you reviewd some state and trust it (man gpg-tag). Such tags then sign the state and all its history. Further I don't make any rules how this might be used, feel free to acknowledge with other people to make this repository useful. The only thing I will do is regulary or automatically rebasing the master branch on the ongoing SVN synced repository, I'll tag the tree before doing so, but any conflicts occuring during this rebase will be thrown out of the master branch (they are still reachable from the tag) but contributors would need to resolve conflicts and reapply them on the master branch again if they didn't worked in topic branches. If you have any questions about this, feel free to contact me via mail or on IRC. About mob software: http://www.dreamsongs.com/MobSoftware.html Have Fun Christian ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
