Re: [CinCVS] Problem with Pre-Built package for Slackware
Thanks, i will try that as soon as i am back home (should be saturday or sunday). Feedback will follow... rafael2k wrote: hi, you can use the SlackBuild to compile cinelerra by yourself in a slackware. try this: # wget http://slack.sarava.org/packages/slackware/noarch/simplepkg-0.6pre10-noarch-1rha.tgz # installpkg simplepkg-0.6pre10-noarch-1rha.tgz # createpkg --sync # createpkg -i cinelerra then cinelerra sould be compiled and installed. feedback is apreciated ;) bye, rafael diniz Em Seg 03 Dez 2007, Bhikkhu Mettavihari escreveu: Thanks for your input. We also had problems with Slackware 12 and stayed with Slackware 11 and an older version of cinelerra 2.0 that has proven to be very good for my work. This version was taken from Rafael's site. If you find a solution to this please let us know. If you want to know more about our setup please drop a line. with metta Mettavihari On Dec 2, 2007 6:24 AM, Bernhard Frühmesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I just installed a Pre-Built Cinelerra Package (built by Rafael Diniz) on my Slackware 11.0 installation. I have installed all required packages and libs, but when i try to start cinelerra i get this message: cinelerra: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libquicktimehv-1.6.0.so.1: undefined symbol: faacDecOpen Does anyone have an idea what´s wrong, older packages worked on older slackware versions. Thanks for any info, ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Problem with Pre-Built package for Slackware
Hello, I just installed a Pre-Built Cinelerra Package (built by Rafael Diniz) on my Slackware 11.0 installation. I have installed all required packages and libs, but when i try to start cinelerra i get this message: cinelerra: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libquicktimehv-1.6.0.so.1: undefined symbol: faacDecOpen Does anyone have an idea what´s wrong, older packages worked on older slackware versions. Thanks for any info, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Importing files recored with kino
Problem solved, i recompiled both (Kino and Cinelerra) and now it works. Cheers, BF. Andraž Tori wrote: can you create a small file, upload is somewhere and submit a bugreport? bye adnraz On Sat, 2006-11-11 at 12:59 +0100, Bernhard Frühmesser wrote: Andraž Tori wrote: two things. 1) use latest kino and latest svn cinelerra Yep, i do. 2) don't forget to have right extensions - .avi, .mov and .dv The extensions are automatically done by kino while recording. BF. On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 15:47 +0100, Bernhard Frühmesser wrote: Hello, I have recorded a movie from a miniDV camera using kino. But i can´t open / import the file in cinelerra. I then tested to record in kino with all format´s available (dv1, dv2, and raw dv) but none of these can be imported in cinelerra. Everytime when i try to load a file recorded with kino i get the dialog "File format can not be recognized". Thanks for any hints/help. Cheers, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Importing files recored with kino
Andraž Tori wrote: two things. 1) use latest kino and latest svn cinelerra Yep, i do. 2) don't forget to have right extensions - .avi, .mov and .dv The extensions are automatically done by kino while recording. BF. On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 15:47 +0100, Bernhard Frühmesser wrote: Hello, I have recorded a movie from a miniDV camera using kino. But i can´t open / import the file in cinelerra. I then tested to record in kino with all format´s available (dv1, dv2, and raw dv) but none of these can be imported in cinelerra. Everytime when i try to load a file recorded with kino i get the dialog "File format can not be recognized". Thanks for any hints/help. Cheers, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Importing files recored with kino
Hello, I have recorded a movie from a miniDV camera using kino. But i can´t open / import the file in cinelerra. I then tested to record in kino with all format´s available (dv1, dv2, and raw dv) but none of these can be imported in cinelerra. Everytime when i try to load a file recorded with kino i get the dialog "File format can not be recognized". Thanks for any hints/help. Cheers, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] 16:9 from 4:3 ??
Herman Robak wrote: On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:48:33 +0200, Bernhard Frühmesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Herman Robak wrote: What format is your recorded video? Is it 4:3? Do you want 4:3 video to appear like 16:9 video on a 4:3 screen? Then you have to black out part of the image, which is rather wasteful. Why would you want that? For artistic effect; go ahead, put on black bands, if you like. To match it with other 16:9 content you have, black bands may be totally wrong, and stretching the middle 432 pixels out to 576 pixels would be more reasonable. So I think you should tell us exactly what you are trying to accomplish. The source video is 720x576 4:3. I would keep the video as it is, but a friend want´s it Letterboxed 16:9 and it will be shown via a Videobeamer and not enough it should match with 16:9 content from real 16:9 source matterial :-( Here is a picture of the original video: http://vi06n235.members.eunet.at//images/Drehtag1_5.jpg And here is a picture of how a friend would want it: http://vi06n235.members.eunet.at//images/snowdd3.jpg So Letterboxed and final aspect ration 16:9. Please read Adam Wilt's DV FAQ about 16:9 ... http://www.adamwilt.com/DV-FAQ-etc.html#widescreen I did, really interesting and informative! Thanks for the Link ! ...and check out if your friend has 16:9 content that does 16:9 "the right way" or "the wrong way". If his 16:9 content does it "the right way", then you are trying The Wrong Thing. REAL 16:9 content does not have black bars in the video. REAL 16:9 DV must be stretched 33% more horizontally, or it will look like this: http://www.nuug.no/pub/herman/lm/mediaspillere/16x9-feil.png ...whereas with the correct stretching it will look like this: http://www.nuug.no/pub/herman/lm/mediaspillere/16x9-riktig.png What kind of medium shall the videos be on? DVD? DVDs have aspect ratio as part of the format. If the player detects a 16:9 aspect ratio, and knows that the screen is 4:3, it will add letterboxing. The final Video will be on a DVD. Rendering letterboxing into the video is only appropriate if the main video is 4:3, with some 16:9 material put into it. This is because DVD players can't switch aspect ratio during playback. (they can't switch between PAL and NTSC during playback, either) I think i´ll tell him to keep the original as it is as there are so many close up pictures in the video that if i would Letterbox the video these close up´s don´t look good anymore. So far he didn´t care about 16:9 while shooting the video A simpler way would be setting the track's size to 720x432, or whatever height you wanted. Right-click on the track, and choose "resize track". I have tested this but it cut´s off too much and i don´t have any more space left for the black borders on top and bottom. So if you leave the project resolution at 720x576 in the Format dialog, but set it to 720x432 for the track, you don't get a 16:9 image with black borders above and below? That was what I was expecting. Well, this works within cinelerra but as soon as i start rendering cinelerra makes the whole box reboot... and i can´t find out why. This happens as "mortal user" and as well as root. BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Streaks on input material (DV)
Nicolas wrote: Hello, I'm editing a video where some parts where taken from a moving motorbike. The result is not very good, since I see streaks on the video. Look at this: http://www.europephoto.com/info/cinelerra/frame_a.jpg Those horrible streaks, which looks like interlacing, are in fact rendered from cinelerra, with a deinterlace effect! Those streaks do not appear continuously on the video. They appear when the camcorder is shaken, and they do not appear on all of the frames. This frame is the immediate following one to "frame_a.jpg": http://www.europephoto.com/info/cinelerra/frame_b.jpg That's really bad, since I have to use some camera keyframes to zoom in the video in order to center the subject (the motorbikes in front of the camcorder). The camcorder is a Panasonic NV-GS400 (DV). Do you know of any way to reduce those streaks? Fortunately, they only appear on around 15% of the footage. I sometimes use yuvdeinterlace from the mjpegtools instead of cinelerras deinterlace effect as for some reason i get (somtimes) better image quality with yuvdeinterlace but then sometimes it´s not better at all. It may be worth a try - no?! BF. Nicolas. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] 16:9 from 4:3 ??
Herman Robak wrote: On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 23:50:16 +0200, Bernhard Frühmesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Herman Robak wrote: If you want letterboxing, you either have to mask off the top and the bottom of the image, or scale it down vertically. Both operations are quite straightforward in Cinelerra. Well, i have been playing around with masking off the top and bottom, but for some reason the finally rendered file was 4:3 again with no borders... and i can´t find out why. I have now read the part about masking in the Secrets of Cinelerra bout 10 times or so :-) What format is your recorded video? Is it 4:3? Do you want 4:3 video to appear like 16:9 video on a 4:3 screen? Then you have to black out part of the image, which is rather wasteful. Why would you want that? For artistic effect; go ahead, put on black bands, if you like. To match it with other 16:9 content you have, black bands may be totally wrong, and stretching the middle 432 pixels out to 576 pixels would be more reasonable. So I think you should tell us exactly what you are trying to accomplish. The source video is 720x576 4:3. I would keep the video as it is, but a friend want´s it Letterboxed 16:9 and it will be shown via a Videobeamer and not enough it should match with 16:9 content from real 16:9 source matterial :-( Here is a picture of the original video: http://vi06n235.members.eunet.at//images/Drehtag1_5.jpg And here is a picture of how a friend would want it: http://vi06n235.members.eunet.at//images/snowdd3.jpg So Letterboxed and final aspect ration 16:9. Is it 16:9, and your screen is 4:3? Are you sure rendering letter- boxed video is the only way to get letterboxed display on the TV? Otherwise the normal way is to keep the 16:9 image pixel for pixel, and let the player or the screen do the scaling/letterboxing. Is there some trick to get the masks rendered too? I am not sure if I understand the question. However, I would consider using Cinelerra's mask feature to be overkill here. You could use an overlay of two black PNGs, or one black PNG with a transparent stripe in the middle. Well, i have added a Mask (borders) to top and bottom with which the video nearly looks like the second photo. But the Rendered file doesn´t have the borders and i don´t know why. I will try the "PNG-way" - thanks for the tip! A simpler way would be setting the track's size to 720x432, or whatever height you wanted. Right-click on the track, and choose "resize track". I have tested this but it cut´s off too much and i don´t have any more space left for the black borders on top and bottom. BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] 16:9 from 4:3 ??
Herman Robak wrote: On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:00:54 +0200, Bernhard Frühmesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I have a video with 720x576 with 4:3 aspect ratio, is it possible to get a 16:9 (Letterboxed) aspect ratio out? I have set 16:9 in the "Format Dialog", it looked 16:9 while watching in the compositor, but after rendering it was 4:3 again. Depending on the format, you may have to tell the player that the correct aspect ratio is 16:9. For mplayer, that would be: mplayer -aspect 16:9 movie.avi MPEG files can contain aspect information, which the player should obey automatically. I think raw DV streams contain aspect info, too. I do not know whether Cinelerra adds the appropriate aspect ratio header to output formats that support that kind of information. This would indeed be worthwhile to test! So it it possible at all to get 16:9 out of a 4:3 source matterial? If you want letterboxing, you either have to mask off the top and the bottom of the image, or scale it down vertically. Both operations are quite straightforward in Cinelerra. Well, i have been playing around with masking off the top and bottom, but for some reason the finally rendered file was 4:3 again with no borders... and i can´t find out why. I have now read the part about masking in the Secrets of Cinelerra bout 10 times or so :-) Is there some trick to get the masks rendered too? Thanks, BF. Generally, letterboxing is not desireable. It is a workaround to display wide content on 4:3 screens. Modern 4:3 TVs and media players can do the letterboxing themselves, when they detect that the content is 16:9. Wasting a lot of bits to encode black pixels should be avoided, if possible. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] 16:9 from 4:3 ??
Hello, I have a video with 720x576 with 4:3 aspect ratio, is it possible to get a 16:9 (Letterboxed) aspect ratio out? I have set 16:9 in the "Format Dialog", it looked 16:9 while watching in the compositor, but after rendering it was 4:3 again. So it it possible at all to get 16:9 out of a 4:3 source matterial? Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] title effect
Nicolas wrote: On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 12:53:48AM +0200, Bernhard Fr?hmesser wrote: ... The file is available at: http://www.fruehmesserkeg.at.tf/images/Title.img ERROR 404: Not Found. =/ Weird, it´s there. When i click on the URL i get the download dialog in Mozilla with the options open from there or save to disk. I have tested it with opera and konqueror too, worked for both. You can also try http://vi06n235.members.eunet.at/images/Title.img but the other URL is only a redirect to this one. Bernhard Nicolas. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] title effect
Nicolas wrote: On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 01:55:04AM +0200, Herman Robak wrote: On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 01:05:23 +0200, Scott C. Frase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bernhard, If you ask guys like Nicolas, who posts often to the board, he avoids the cinelerra titler at all costs and uses transparent png images for his titles. check out one of his very nice ones here: http://www.europephoto.com/studios_conti/2006/20060621_Trailer_DVD_Chevreuse.avi check out one of my crappy ones, made with the Cinelerra titler: http://content.serveftp.net/video/title.mp4 Now, how about having a close look at the result, and figuring out what the problem is? Then file bug reports. I would certainly like a more capable titler. -- Herman Robak I agree... Bernhard should show us what the video look like. Ok, i just used a small part of the Title and created a DVD image file about 7MB. If possible watch it on a TV screen and or on a LCD Monitor (also a laptop screen). It looks worst on an Apple laptop if you watch it with DVD Player and on a TV screen with a stand alone DVD Player (i tested it with 2 different DVD players - philips and jvc). The file is available at: http://www.fruehmesserkeg.at.tf/images/Title.img Bernhard Isn't the problem due to the fact that the title is moving too fast on the screen? One can't move titles too fast because there're only 25-30 frames or so per second... Nicolas. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] title effect
Nicolas wrote: On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 01:55:04AM +0200, Herman Robak wrote: On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 01:05:23 +0200, Scott C. Frase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bernhard, If you ask guys like Nicolas, who posts often to the board, he avoids the cinelerra titler at all costs and uses transparent png images for his titles. check out one of his very nice ones here: http://www.europephoto.com/studios_conti/2006/20060621_Trailer_DVD_Chevreuse.avi check out one of my crappy ones, made with the Cinelerra titler: http://content.serveftp.net/video/title.mp4 Now, how about having a close look at the result, and figuring out what the problem is? Then file bug reports. I would certainly like a more capable titler. -- Herman Robak I agree... Bernhard should show us what the video look like. I am afraid i can´t as the Title itself (if it is rendered) is about 60MB big. And if i use mencoder to encode to DivX and to resize it to about 4MB the "jumping effect" isn´t visible that good than in full size. Today i tested it on an external DVD player and a normal TV screen and there it really looks crapy. Isn't the problem due to the fact that the title is moving too fast on the screen? One can't move titles too fast because there're only 25-30 frames or so per second... I have tested several speed settings for it, but this doesn´t do anything. Well, i think i´ll try it will still images. Bernhard Nicolas. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] title effect
Herman Robak wrote: On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 01:05:23 +0200, Scott C. Frase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bernhard, If you ask guys like Nicolas, who posts often to the board, he avoids the cinelerra titler at all costs and uses transparent png images for his titles. check out one of his very nice ones here: http://www.europephoto.com/studios_conti/2006/20060621_Trailer_DVD_Chevreuse.avi check out one of my crappy ones, made with the Cinelerra titler: http://content.serveftp.net/video/title.mp4 Now, how about having a close look at the result, and figuring out what the problem is? Then file bug reports. I would certainly like a more capable titler. Well, the motion title i did with the cinelerra titler doesn´t look "smart or smooth" it either looks like jerking. I better try it out with "still" png images. Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] title effect
Hello, I have been playing around with the Title Effect (using motion). I used Top to Bottom / Bottom to Top Left to Right and Right to Left (playing around...) But the final (When the Video is rendered) result doesn´t really look good. The Title looks not moving smooth but rather looks some kind of jumping. While the title effect with still titles looks good i can´t find out why moving titles look like "jumping" Is there any other effect i need to add that moving titles look good? I haven´t found any info about that in the Twiki. BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] mpeg2encoder options before rendering
Scott C. Frase wrote: Bernhard, I describe something similar to add FFMPEG parameters on the pipe line in my doc here: http://content.serveftp.net/video/renderTest/guideToCinExport.html Look for the section towards the bottom called "Combining a pre-existing audio file with a new video stream" You'd do something similar w/the mpeg2enc pipe. Nice one !! BF. Don't know about the max frame size, though. scott On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 19:51 +0200, Bernhard Frühmesser wrote: Hello, Is there a possible way to enter extra parameters for mpeg2enc in the before rendering a file. Than just bitrate and quantantization directly. And is it possible if i render to mov MJPEG-A that i set a limit to the max frame size of jpeg frames? Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] mpeg2encoder options before rendering
Nicolas wrote: On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 07:51:41PM +0200, Bernhard Fr?hmesser wrote: Hello, Is there a possible way to enter extra parameters for mpeg2enc in the before rendering a file. Than just bitrate and quantantization directly. And is it possible if i render to mov MJPEG-A that i set a limit to the max frame size of jpeg frames? Thanks, BF. As regards to the mpeg2enc parameters, you can specify any option you want if you use a shell script. Have a look at the wiki here: http://ftconsult.taxnetusa.com/twiki/bin/view/Cinelerra/Rendering#Rendering (it's at the end of the page) That´s it (mostly). But it isn´t possible to include other commands into the shellscript before mpeg2enc is used like y4mshift of yuvmedianfilter from the mjpegtools? Also it seems that yuvdeinterlace is more precise than the deinterlace filter from cinelerra. BF. I don't know about mov MJPEG-A... Nicolas. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] mpeg2encoder options before rendering
Hello, Is there a possible way to enter extra parameters for mpeg2enc in the before rendering a file. Than just bitrate and quantantization directly. And is it possible if i render to mov MJPEG-A that i set a limit to the max frame size of jpeg frames? Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra not consuming all CPU ressources when rendering
Kevin Brosius wrote: Hi Bernhard, Hi Kevin, On 2006-09-22 11:37, Bernhard Frühmesser wrote: Nicolas wrote: Hello, Hello, On my dual Xeon machine (while Rendering) i have around 70% of CPU usage, i noticed that it doesn´t have any effect when i enable or disable the Option "Use only on CPU" in the settings menu. Do you show 70% on both cpus if you use a load tool, like top? In top it show a load of 70% at all (99,9% for one cpu and the rest for the second CPU). As Hannes explained to me recently, the "Use only one CPU" option means really to use a single worker thread to dispatch frame rendering jobs. They still get shared on multiple cpus. It even takes the same time to Render if i use one or two CPU´s. Not sure why. What do you mean by 'use one or two cpus'? I can disable a core in the bios on an AMD X2 and have rendering take about twice as long. Well, it doesn´t have any effect if i set "use only one cpu" to on than if this is set to "off" in both case the "rendering time" is nearly the same. The only thing that helps here speed up things is the Renderfarm (using 3 boxes). If cinelerra is really only using one of your CPUs, you can run a renderfarm node on the same machine. But that should not be necessary. Hmm, it might be worth a try. BF. Kevin BF. I noticed Cinelerra doesn't consume all the CPU ressources available on my system when rendering. Here's a screenshot of gkrellm when rendering : http://www.europephoto.com/info/gkrellm_cinelerra_cpu.jpg Here's an MRTG graph, rendering was done between 0am and 8am: http://www.europephoto.com/info/cpu-day.png Here are the first lines of top: top - 12:46:33 up 17:42, 4 users, load average: 2.04, 2.16, 1.74 Tasks: 99 total, 2 running, 97 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.3%us, 1.2%sy, 67.6%ni, 30.6%id, 0.0%wa, 0.2%hi, 0.2%si, 0.0%st Mem: 3116852k total, 3020560k used,96292k free,27000k buffers Swap: 2939884k total, 96k used, 2939788k free, 1724952k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 6423 root 35 19 785m 668m 9384 R 97 22.0 16:14.49 cinelerra_r888 6428 root 35 19 124m 92m 1120 S 41 3.0 9:34.26 mpeg2enc The processor is AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+, and total bogomips is 10562. I encode into YUV4MPEG piped into mpeg2enc. I use the -M 3 parameter with mpeg2enc: mpeg2enc -M 3 -v 0 -K tmpgenc -r 32 -4 1 -2 1 -D 10 -E 10 -g 15 -G 15 -q 7 -b 9400 -f 8 -o $1 Is there anything to do on my system to get cinelerra use 100% of the available CPU ressources? I'm quite surprised to see not all the CPU is consumed on a dual cores system. What about people running 4 procs systems? The project contains large pictures with zooms, travellings, etc, made with camera keyframes. There're very few effects, such as perspective. Thanks. Nicolas. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra not consuming all CPU ressources when rendering
Nicolas wrote: Hello, Hello, On my dual Xeon machine (while Rendering) i have around 70% of CPU usage, i noticed that it doesn´t have any effect when i enable or disable the Option "Use only on CPU" in the settings menu. It even takes the same time to Render if i use one or two CPU´s. Not sure why. The only thing that helps here speed up things is the Renderfarm (using 3 boxes). BF. I noticed Cinelerra doesn't consume all the CPU ressources available on my system when rendering. Here's a screenshot of gkrellm when rendering : http://www.europephoto.com/info/gkrellm_cinelerra_cpu.jpg Here's an MRTG graph, rendering was done between 0am and 8am: http://www.europephoto.com/info/cpu-day.png Here are the first lines of top: top - 12:46:33 up 17:42, 4 users, load average: 2.04, 2.16, 1.74 Tasks: 99 total, 2 running, 97 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.3%us, 1.2%sy, 67.6%ni, 30.6%id, 0.0%wa, 0.2%hi, 0.2%si, 0.0%st Mem: 3116852k total, 3020560k used,96292k free,27000k buffers Swap: 2939884k total, 96k used, 2939788k free, 1724952k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 6423 root 35 19 785m 668m 9384 R 97 22.0 16:14.49 cinelerra_r888 6428 root 35 19 124m 92m 1120 S 41 3.0 9:34.26 mpeg2enc The processor is AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+, and total bogomips is 10562. I encode into YUV4MPEG piped into mpeg2enc. I use the -M 3 parameter with mpeg2enc: mpeg2enc -M 3 -v 0 -K tmpgenc -r 32 -4 1 -2 1 -D 10 -E 10 -g 15 -G 15 -q 7 -b 9400 -f 8 -o $1 Is there anything to do on my system to get cinelerra use 100% of the available CPU ressources? I'm quite surprised to see not all the CPU is consumed on a dual cores system. What about people running 4 procs systems? The project contains large pictures with zooms, travellings, etc, made with camera keyframes. There're very few effects, such as perspective. Thanks. Nicolas. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Title Motion Effects?
Miha Kitič wrote:
I am not sure I will give you a useful answer, but let me try :)
Yep, thanks. Well getting the lines for camera x y and z wasn´t or isn´t
the problem, also changing the values on the timeline isn´t the problem,
but i don´t get the "Camera Tool Window" where you can set values more
detailed than on the timeline. Should this window open automatically
when camera x y or z is shown?
In the Wiki (this part: "Compositing Camera Controls") is the Camera
Tool mentioned but there is nothing about how to open/get this window.
I played around in the compositor with camera/prjector settings as
described but no "Camera Tool Window" :-(
Thanks so far,
BF.
1. If you select "Window" (top menu line in Cinelerra's main window) and
then choose "Show overlays", a new window will appear. In this window
you will find many checkboxes. If you click them you can enable/disable
various controls in the time line.
For instance, if you enable "Fade", a white line will appear in the
timeline. By clicking on that line you can create keyframes (providing
of course, that the track is armed and the curent position of the line
is within the track's vertical range -> if you can't see it try Alt-f)
If you move keyframes up or down, you can then control visibility of
video tracks and volume of audio tracks.
However if you go 3 check-boxes up from the fade (in "Overlays" window)
you will also see 3 controls called:
Camera x
Camera y
Camera z
Those controls determine (please someone correct me if I am wrong) which
part of the picture (of the original clip) Cinalerra will process / show
in the video you are making.
Now lets suppose that your original clip is an image with a title you
wish to show. If you select "Camera z" checkbox, a blue line will appear
on video timeline('s). If you then place that image on the separate
timeline (above the time line of the movie), create a keyframe on blue
line and move that keyframe up and down, then you will see, that your
title is zooming in and out - depending on the position of the line.
What you need to do is to create 2 keyframes on a blue line
(e.g. one with value 0.2 and another 2) and you should get the desired
result.
2. But there is another way.
If you wish to use Cinelerra's Title effect rather than an image, then
you can do so. But I am not sure if the text created by title effect can
be zoomed in the same way as an image - with Camera z control (I never
tried).
However you can create many keyframes (e.g. in each frame) in the title
effect and in each frame you can increase the font size of the text).
It's some work, but you should be able to get the desired result in this
way too.
There may be another ways as well...
All the best and I hope you can make it!
Miha
There's no need for camera keyframes, he should keyframe the title
plugin itself.
Hmm, i have been looking in the Wiki (which seems to be much more
informative than the original "Secrets of Cinelerra" also most of it is
found in the wiki.
But whatever i do i don´t get the "Camera Tool" Window, i followed this
text "Compositing Camera Controls".
Is there a keyboard combo that isn´t described in the Wiki?
What do you mean with keyframe the title plugin itself? I don´t see how
this would bring the title from very small (middle) to very very big
(middle).
BF.
bye
andraz
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Re: [CinCVS] Title Motion Effects?
Andraž Tori wrote: On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 00:39 +0200, Nicolas wrote: On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 12:29:08AM +0200, Bernhard Fr?hmesser wrote: Hello, I have set a small title effect on a clip, and i would like to make the title appear in the middle (center) of the screen (video) very very small, so that it can??t be read, then the title should move "to" the audience, getting bigger and bigger but without changing the position of the title. I have been playing around with the video perspective effect, but this isn??t the effect i am looking for, as the title should not have a perspective, it should just move out from the middle of the video starting very small and getting bigger and bigger. BF. Hello Bernhard, I think it's now time for you to learn how to use the keyframes. That's not one of the easiest part of Cinelerra to learn... :-/ What you need here is to define 2 camera keyframes, with different Z values. There's no need for camera keyframes, he should keyframe the title plugin itself. Hmm, i have been looking in the Wiki (which seems to be much more informative than the original "Secrets of Cinelerra" also most of it is found in the wiki. But whatever i do i don´t get the "Camera Tool" Window, i followed this text "Compositing Camera Controls". Is there a keyboard combo that isn´t described in the Wiki? What do you mean with keyframe the title plugin itself? I don´t see how this would bring the title from very small (middle) to very very big (middle). BF. bye andraz ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Title Motion Effects?
Nicolas wrote: On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 12:29:08AM +0200, Bernhard Fr?hmesser wrote: Hello, I have set a small title effect on a clip, and i would like to make the title appear in the middle (center) of the screen (video) very very small, so that it can??t be read, then the title should move "to" the audience, getting bigger and bigger but without changing the position of the title. I have been playing around with the video perspective effect, but this isn??t the effect i am looking for, as the title should not have a perspective, it should just move out from the middle of the video starting very small and getting bigger and bigger. BF. Hello Bernhard, I think it's now time for you to learn how to use the keyframes. That's not one of the easiest part of Cinelerra to learn... :-/ Definitely... I am now playing around for a while with keyframes but it´s still tricky, and i haven´t found any part in "The Sectrets of Cinelerra" that is a bit more detailed about keyframes and cameras than just the part "Keyframes". What you need here is to define 2 camera keyframes, with different Z values. Thanks for the hint, BF. Nicolas, Paris. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Title Motion Effects?
Hello, I have set a small title effect on a clip, and i would like to make the title appear in the middle (center) of the screen (video) very very small, so that it can´t be read, then the title should move "to" the audience, getting bigger and bigger but without changing the position of the title. I have been playing around with the video perspective effect, but this isn´t the effect i am looking for, as the title should not have a perspective, it should just move out from the middle of the video starting very small and getting bigger and bigger. BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] External Video Effects and Transitions?
Herman Robak wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:02:26 +0200, Bernhard Frühmesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, Is it possible to get more (external) video effects/transitions from the internet and import http://www.cinelerra.org/ into cinelerra like it can be done with external audio effects/plugins? You mean like Cinelerra's support for LADSPA plugins? Not for now. Yep, like LADSPA plugins. Andraz: How is Livido support coming along? Hmm, stupid question what is livido? BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] External Video Effects and Transitions?
Hello, Is it possible to get more (external) video effects/transitions from the internet and importhttp://www.cinelerra.org/ into cinelerra like it can be done with external audio effects/plugins? BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Creating subdirectories to media and clip dirs in Resources window?
Hello, I was looking in the "Secrets of Cinelerra" Manual for any info on that. Is it possible to create "subdirectories" in the Resourceswindow? I have around 50 clips in the clips dir and many of them belong somehow together (group) and it would be much more easier if i could put them into a subdirectory of the clip directory. BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Trimming and insertion things
Hello, I have played around with trimming and editing existing tracks, but all these didn´t do the right. Following situation: I have two video tracks with clips on both tracks, now i added a third video track where i want to insert another clip nearly at the beginning of the videotrack, but when i insert the clip only the audio tracks move to the right (exactly the ammount of the cliplength i have inserted). But the videoclips in videotrack 1 and 2 stay at the same position, how can i make sure that if i insert a clip into track 3 that all the other tracks (video and audio with all effects etc...) move to the right automatically when i insert a new clip to video 3 ? Thanks for hints/tips, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Site which show / share tutorials and howtos for Cinelerra
Hello, I have now found several sites with small "Cinelerra Tutorials", but i was wondering if there is a site where ppl can show and or share tutorials and howtos (for example how they did this and that effect in a video and so on...)? BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Copy out a single frame from a clip
Hello, I have a videoclip with about 1,30 minutes, and i would like to "copy" the LAST frame of that clip and create a "picture" out of it which i add to the resources (either to clip or to media), but so far i haven´t found anything suitable about that in the manual. I have been trying to work with in and out points but since the position is the same this didn´t work. Thanks for hints/help! BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Effect Title motion and still picture in one title
THANKS !! I was sitting on that problem for days now :-) BF. Andraž Tori wrote: create a title on separate track and use projector keyframing to move it around. bye andraz On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 23:29 +0200, Bernhard Frühmesser wrote: Hello, Does anybody know if it is possible to add a Title that has Motion Type "Bottom to Top" so that the title starts outside goes up to the middle of the screen/picture and there the title should stop moving up but instead should "fade-out" slowly. Any ideas? Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Effect Title motion and still picture in one title
Hello, Does anybody know if it is possible to add a Title that has Motion Type "Bottom to Top" so that the title starts outside goes up to the middle of the screen/picture and there the title should stop moving up but instead should "fade-out" slowly. Any ideas? Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] h264 rendering?
Stefan de Konink wrote: On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, [ISO-8859-15] Bernhard Frühmesser wrote: Thanks for help/hints! What I personnaly do just do it externally in ffmpeg. That way you can export different times, in a more stable (and controlable) environment. I was testing ffmpeg before i directly rendered h264 in cinelerra, but with ffmpeg i have audio problems and don´t find out why, so i tested rendering h264 directly in cinelerra. (Tip not a flame ;) I like Cinelerra) x264 has some ffmpeg needs, it needs to be the lastest SVN versions of both software packages. Thanks, BF. Stefan ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] h264 rendering?
Hello, I would like to render a video using h264, but i am not sure what to set in the "video settings menu" either fixed quant. or bitrate. I would like to get a Bitrate around 800 kbit/s or 1MBit/s but it doesn`t matter what i set i always get 25MBit/s for the final video. I have been trying both using a fixed quantantization and using a fixed bitrate, i have tested different settings but i always get around 25MBit/s. Thanks for help/hints! BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Downsample mode in Filter REFRAME RT - Bug?
Nicolas wrote: BTW, here's what's written in the "Secrets of Cinelerra" manual , whose URL I gave you on this ML some days ago. Thanks, i found something similar in the "Cinelerra TWiki, it´s a bit confusing the first time, but it makes sense. Cheers, BF. REFRAMERT ReframeRT changes number of frames in a sequence of video directly from the timeline. It has 2 modes, selected by the 2 toggles in the GUI. Stretch mode multiplies the current frame number of its output by the scale factor to arrive at the frame to read from its input. If its current output frame is #55 and the scale factor is 2, frame #110 is read from its input. The stretch mode has the effect of changing the length of output video by the inverse of the scale factor. If the scale factor is greater than 1, the output will end before the end of the sequence on the timeline. If it's less than 1, the output will end after the end of the sequence on the timeline. The ReframeRT effect must be lengthened to the necessary length to accomodate the scale factor. Change the length of the effect by clicking on the endpoint of the effect and dragging. Although stretch mode changes the number of the frame read from its input, it doesn't change the frame rate of the input. Effects before ReframeRT assume the same frame rate as ReframeRT. Downsample mode doesn't change the length of the output sequence. It multiplies the frame rate of the output by the scale factor to arrive at a frame rate rate to read the input. This has the effect of replicating the input frames so that they only change at the scaled frame rate when sent to the output. It doesn't change the length of the sequence. If the scale factor is 0.5 and the output frame rate is 30 fps, only 15 frames will be shown per second and the input will be read at 15 fps. Downsample is only useful for scalefactors below 1, hence the name downsample. Downsample mode changes the frame rate of the input as well as the number of the frame to read, so effects before ReframeRT see the frame rate * the scale factor as their frame rate. If the scale factor is 2 and the output frame rate is 30, the input frame rate will be 60 and the input frame number will by doubled. This won't normally do anything but some input effects may behave differently at the higher frame rate. Nicolas, Paris. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Downsample mode in Filter REFRAME RT - Bug?
Hello, I have been trying to use ReframeRT to slow down the video a bit, using settings downsample and 2.000. But the video is still at normal speed, i have been trying a setting of 10.000 but also nothing happens. Stretch effect to speed up the video works fine. Does anyone has the same problem? Is there something else to do before attaching the effect? Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Free media positioning in track?
Stefan de Konink wrote: On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, Nicolas wrote: Well, perhaps you already know that. Please give us more information about what you're trying to do, and we'll be able to help you. Is it possible to move a track around in the 'arrow' mode instead with the mouse moving the track with the keyboard frame by frame. In the Drag and drop mode i am only able to move around the media between several video tracks, but not for example to the right. Thanks, BF. I want to lipsync individual recordings. But it is kinda hard doing it with a mouse, play to check, and move it a bit around again. Stefan ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Free media positioning in track?
Nicolas wrote: On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 09:48:12PM +0200, Bernhard Fr?hmesser wrote: Hello, I am looking for info how if it is possible to do a "free media positioning" in the main cinelerra window. I have two video tracks, video track 1 starts at the beginning, and i would like to use track 2 to positioning the videos "free" now they start at the beginning of the track just as videotrack 1. Of course i can copy the video i would like to insert in track 2 and paste it at the right position, but later when the video is in position i would like to move it around. So far i haven??t found any info about that, is it possible or not and when yes how can i do this? Can anyone tell me where i find info about that? Thanks for infos BF. Hello, Hello, I don't quite understand your problem... What do you want to do? Are you trying to move the video on track 2? Is moving the video on track 2 the problem? I would like to know if it is possible to move around a media in a track just like in Final Cut? There're several ways to move a media on a track. First, you select a part of the track using the [ and ] buttons to define the start and end point. Then you can paste silence using "Shift+Space". That moves to the right the medias which are on the right side of the in and out points. You can also cut the part you selected, just by pressing the "x" key. Selecting an area and using in ([) and out (]) points and pressing Shift+Space does a "past silence" that´s right, but when i then try to insert a media it is still positioned at the beginning of the track and not right (next to) the outpoint. Well, perhaps you already know that. Please give us more information about what you're trying to do, and we'll be able to help you. It works somehow if i goto the last position of the first track and arm the second video track and insert from the sources menu, but then i can´t move around the video for example in "Drag and drop mode" (arrow mode) the media stays at it´s position where it has been inserted before. I can move it to the beginning of the track but not right. And if i go to the end of the media and the mousepointer becomes an arrow pointing right i can extend the media but not repositioning it. Thanks so far, Bernhard F. Nicolas, Paris. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Free media positioning in track?
Hello, I am looking for info how if it is possible to do a "free media positioning" in the main cinelerra window. I have two video tracks, video track 1 starts at the beginning, and i would like to use track 2 to positioning the videos "free" now they start at the beginning of the track just as videotrack 1. Of course i can copy the video i would like to insert in track 2 and paste it at the right position, but later when the video is in position i would like to move it around. So far i haven´t found any info about that, is it possible or not and when yes how can i do this? Can anyone tell me where i find info about that? Thanks for infos BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] copy / past in version 2.1
Hello, Just downloaded and compiled version 2.1 but strangely copy/paste editing no longer works, does anyone know how i can check to see what´s going wrong or to start cinelerra in "debug mode" if there is something like that for it? Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] ReframeRT also for Audio?
Hello, I have added the ReframeRT effect to a video (track) to play the video a bit faster than normal, but the audio still plays at normal time, and i can`t find out the right effect to do the same for the audio tracks, so that audio and video both play syncronized (nudge isn´t the right thing i am looking for). Does anybody know how i can do this or how the effect for the audio track(s) is called. Then i am not sure if the following is a bug or not, i have three audio tracks, the third track is used for small audio clips, when i disarm all other tracks so that only the third audio track is armed and when i then select a region and press m to mute the selected region i have (in older cinelerra versions) been able to insert an audio clip right after the region that has been muted before, but now the audio clip is either inserted at the beginning or right after other clips, is there something else in cinelerra 2.0 that i have to do than selecting a region and pressing m? Thanks for any help/hints!! BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] mute an audio region
Hello, I have marked a part of an audio track which is empty, then i used mute to mute the selected region, after that i wanted to insert a small audio clip right after the region which i have muted before, but the audio clip is positioned at the beginning of the audiotrack and not after the muted region. I have used the same technique before and it always worked, can someone tell me what´s going wrong, did i forgot something which i can´t remember right now? Thanks for any hint/help! BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] How many audio tracks can i add?
Hello, I have one Video track and 7 audio tracks in my project, which all work fine, but i need to add more audio tracks to the project, but if i add for example another one or more audio tracks etc... they don´t play anymore. Is cinelerra limitted to 7 audio tracks. Not all play at the same time, most of them are used for short audio (wav) clips. Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Fading in / out in a Video Track and max frame size
Hello, I want to set a fade in and a fade out in a video track, so far this works, but the first few frames when fadding in and the last frames when fadding out is done are shown and they are in weird color, normaly there should be nothing. Does anybody know what this is and if i can prevent this? Then i wanted to know if i can do some kind of scaling with cinelerra, the source video i use is 768x576 and i would like to have it rendered as MPEG Video for DVD which uses 720x576, when i set the format to 720x576 some parts are just cut off in the video which isn´t that nice. Third :-) When i export a video to Motion JPEG A with 100% quality, is there a way to find out or to set the "max_frame_size" of the final video? Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Keep tracks in the timeline in current position
Am 25.03.2006 um 23:18 schrieb jim scott: If I understand what you are doing, I think you should just paste silence instead of cutting or deleting from the audio. If i try to paste silence, the audio is deleted anyway and the audio of clip 2 is moved to the beginning too just as if i would only delete the audio. On 3/25/06, Bernhard Frühmesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 25.03.2006 um 22:44 schrieb jim scott: > You say you have two video clips in the time line. Are they separate > tracks or in the same track? Both clips are in the same track, between both clips is a "slide-effect" > Any delete you do will affect all the armed tracks, but shouldn't > affect any of the unarmed tracks. Are the tracks that you want to have > stay in place armed? The audio part is armed as if it wouldn´t be armed i wouldn´t be able to delete the audio of the first clip. But after deleting the audio part the audio of the second clip moves to the beginning of the timeline (where the old (deleted) audio part) has been before. And i wonder if there is a method to prevent that. BF. > On 3/25/06, Bernhard Frühmesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I have been playing around a lot with audio and video tasks in >> cinelerra, but so far i haven´t found out HOWTO make audio part or a >> video part keep it´s position in the timeline when i delete a part >> from >> the video before the video or audio part that should stay. >> >> For example: I have a two video clips in the timeline, both have >> audio, >> and i need to delete the audio part of the first clip, but when i >> delete this audio part the audio part from the second clip will move >> to >> the position of the part that i just deleted, but it should stay where >> it is. >> >> Did i miss some part in the docu about howto do that? >> >> Thanks, >> BF. >> >> ___ >> Cinelerra mailing list >> Cinelerra@skolelinux.no >> https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra > > > > -- > http://ThreeWayNews.blogspot.com > Your source. For everything. Really. "In a World without Walls and Fences, who needs Windows and Gates". ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra -- http://ThreeWayNews.blogspot.com Your source. For everything. Really. "In a World without Walls and Fences, who needs Windows and Gates". ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Keep tracks in the timeline in current position
Am 25.03.2006 um 22:44 schrieb jim scott: You say you have two video clips in the time line. Are they separate tracks or in the same track? Both clips are in the same track, between both clips is a "slide-effect" Any delete you do will affect all the armed tracks, but shouldn't affect any of the unarmed tracks. Are the tracks that you want to have stay in place armed? The audio part is armed as if it wouldn´t be armed i wouldn´t be able to delete the audio of the first clip. But after deleting the audio part the audio of the second clip moves to the beginning of the timeline (where the old (deleted) audio part) has been before. And i wonder if there is a method to prevent that. BF. On 3/25/06, Bernhard Frühmesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been playing around a lot with audio and video tasks in cinelerra, but so far i haven´t found out HOWTO make audio part or a video part keep it´s position in the timeline when i delete a part from the video before the video or audio part that should stay. For example: I have a two video clips in the timeline, both have audio, and i need to delete the audio part of the first clip, but when i delete this audio part the audio part from the second clip will move to the position of the part that i just deleted, but it should stay where it is. Did i miss some part in the docu about howto do that? Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra -- http://ThreeWayNews.blogspot.com Your source. For everything. Really. "In a World without Walls and Fences, who needs Windows and Gates". ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Keep tracks in the timeline in current position
Hello, I have been playing around a lot with audio and video tasks in cinelerra, but so far i haven´t found out HOWTO make audio part or a video part keep it´s position in the timeline when i delete a part from the video before the video or audio part that should stay. For example: I have a two video clips in the timeline, both have audio, and i need to delete the audio part of the first clip, but when i delete this audio part the audio part from the second clip will move to the position of the part that i just deleted, but it should stay where it is. Did i miss some part in the docu about howto do that? Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Error-log file?
Jonas Wulff wrote: Hello, have you tried starting cinelerra from a console? usually the console displays the output and warning and errors, like e.g. the ones printed by mpeg2enc. Now we are a big closer... (just a question: are you sure mpeg2enc.plugin is located in your /usr/local/lib/cinelerra directory?) Hmm, mpeg2enc.plugin is in /usr/lib/cinelerra like all the other *.plugin files. But when starting cinelerra i get a message PluginServer::open_plugin: /usr/lib/cinelerra/mpeg2enc.plugin: Can´t load the programm dynamically Thanks, BF. jonas Am Samstag, den 18.02.2006, 20:46 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Frühmesser: Hello, I wanted to render a video (only the video) using the "MPEG Video" format to fit for DVD (MPEG2). But it doesn´t care which settings i try cinelerra always reports "Error rendering file" after about 5 seconds after Rendering starts. I was wondering if there is some log file where i could check why Rendering aborts. Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Error-log file?
Andraz Tori wrote: are you sure you have permissions to the directory you want to write file in? and enough disk space and other technicalities sorted out... bye andraž Yeah, i have permissions to the directory and there is far enough disk space, rendering using other formats works perfectly, also if i use MPEG Audio to render the audio part of the video works perfectly, but if i choose "MPEG Video" (without audio) rendering stops after 5 seconds with "Error rendering file". C, BF. On sob, 2006-02-18 at 20:46 +0100, Bernhard Frühmesser wrote: Hello, I wanted to render a video (only the video) using the "MPEG Video" format to fit for DVD (MPEG2). But it doesn´t care which settings i try cinelerra always reports "Error rendering file" after about 5 seconds after Rendering starts. I was wondering if there is some log file where i could check why Rendering aborts. Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Error-log file?
Hello, I wanted to render a video (only the video) using the "MPEG Video" format to fit for DVD (MPEG2). But it doesn´t care which settings i try cinelerra always reports "Error rendering file" after about 5 seconds after Rendering starts. I was wondering if there is some log file where i could check why Rendering aborts. Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Effect Reframe RT
Hello, I would like to play a video slower and at some part faster than normal, so that the final video looks like the same as when you watch a video in the viewer and press fast forware or "slow motion". I have been playing around with the "Reframe RT" Effect, but this one doesn´t seem to be the right Effect for doing this (also with audio). I have used "Stretch" and "Downsample" in the Reframe RT Effect Settings, but somehow this isn´t it... Does anyone know if there is an effect to make a "Fast Forward" and "Slow Motion" (audio included) Effect in the video? Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Cut and Paste for Videos
Hello, Mostly i have been using cinelerra with Title effects and audio, not so much with Videoclips - so this is kind off new to me. I have read in "Secrets of Cinelerra" about Cut and Past Editing and the other methods, but i still have some questions about that. Is there some kind of a tutorial video about the different editing effects? Thanks, BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Fading and version 2.0
Andraz Tori wrote: On sre, 2006-02-15 at 23:19 +0100, Bernhard Frühmesser wrote: Hello, I have installed version 2.0 of cinelerra a few days ago, and found some "strange" things. When i load audio and i would like to fade there is actually no line where i can fade it, note "Fade" in View menu is set to on so there should be the "white" line for fading, or has this changed in version 2.0? press alt+f Thanks. Hmm, is there anything else needed in version 2.0 that fading will "happen"? I have done several marks for fading-in and fading-out in the audio track (just as i did with version 1.2.2) but fading doesn´t seem to "work" - weird. Then when i load a video with audio the video is shown but no audio is shown but the "draw media" button(s) for audio are set to "on" as well as for the video. This also doesn´t change if i set the button draw media off and on again. is audio loaded at all or not? Yeah, when i load the video audio is loaded too. For example when i just load an audio file (mp3 wav) the "media" is shown. But not so when i load a video (i have tested this with several videos). Thanks, BF. bye andraž ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Fading and version 2.0
Hello, I have installed version 2.0 of cinelerra a few days ago, and found some "strange" things. When i load audio and i would like to fade there is actually no line where i can fade it, note "Fade" in View menu is set to on so there should be the "white" line for fading, or has this changed in version 2.0? Then when i load a video with audio the video is shown but no audio is shown but the "draw media" button(s) for audio are set to "on" as well as for the video. This also doesn´t change if i set the button draw media off and on again. Thanks for any hints/help. BF. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
