Re: [CinCVS] anyone compared this with cinelerra?
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:00:12 +0200 Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we cannot have any advice of such a software only with screenshots. The most important is the engine: what can we do with it. Even in termes of productivity. I haven't used it, but based on what they say on their website it seems very impressive. It uses mplayer/mencoder as engine, thus can load and save almost every known format. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] anyone compared this with cinelerra?
anyone compared this with cinelerra? http://lives.sourceforge.net/index.php?do=features ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Mpeg2 encoding
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 17:15:38 +1000 Vaughan Famularo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to render from the timeline to an Mpeg2 Video file. I am using the standard DVD settings in the Video rendering gui. as amazing as it seems, cinelerra doesn't support DVD compatible MPEG-2 output. you need to save to another format and then use another application to do the conversion. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Mpeg2 encoding
On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 00:17:46 +0800 Graham Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1 fixed bitrate wasn't the maximum bitrate at 8000 (official dvd spec)? i could be wrong... ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Beginner-friendly user interface (was: about starting over...)
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:07:14 +0200 Eric Seigne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is more gnome look but it's just a cinelerra skin. Unfortunately a theme won't help. We need something that will radically change the interface and make it easier to understand and use. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Re: Compiling 2.1 with OpenGL 2.0
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:47:54 +0200 Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the OpenGL 2.0 support related to the ATI *hardware* or only a matter of software? Its a matter of software only. ATI always had bad drivers and even worse support for Linux. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Re: Compiling 2.1 with OpenGL 2.0
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:30:49 +0200 Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But up to Radeon 9200/9250 we have free driver. are these ones suitable ? i believe they don't fully support OpenGL 2, but i could be wrong. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] about starting over...
I can see what Jordan Nash is trying to say and i'm not going to be offended by his email. It is true, cinelerra is not user friendly and the learning curve is indeed steep. I also believe that starting over isn't doable. Lets face it, cinelerra is beign developed by a small group of developers, there just isn't time, money and resources to redesign cinellera from scratch. Beign realistic, i can see an alternative route: -- 2 interfaces! The user loads cinellera for the first time and gets a dialog: Welcome to cinellera, would you like the Basic Interface or the Expert Interface? In other words, we keep the current interface and just add a lighter version along with it. All advanced features will only exist in the Expert Interface while all the Basic Interface will have only the simple features for working on simple projects. The new Basic Interface can be designed for usability, with hits, explanations and simple buttons. As intuitive and understandable as possible. I believe this solution is viable interms of development. I welcome your thoughts. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra v2.1 has been Released
On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 06:50:53 -0500 Jeremiah Benham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who cares about the win32 drivers. yeah well i'm a windoze basher as well and bash at them at every chance i get, but when it comes down to doing business, if the system has ATI drivers even under windoze, then all hell will break loose and the client will come down and bash your head with the computer that doesn't work. I get updates to my Ati drivers on almost a monthly basis. so you already know that ATI makes the worst drivers in the entire IT industry. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra v2.1 has been Released
On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 15:14:27 +0200 (CEST) Stefan de Konink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ati released the specs to their Rage3D chipset to the community. I think that is nice too. Since some people are working on an open nvidia accelerated driver I'm happy to see something is actually going on. yeah, its like ATI is giving us the finger and telling us to go well you know... because the Rage3D chipset is from the mid '90s era, a dead chipset still used by computers that burn coal ;) the open source driver for nvidia cards is nicely going along, it does full 2D acceleration and supports nearly every single nvidia card on the market. 3D is not yet finished, but if someone needs 3D they can just use the closed source driver, so no harm done. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra v2.1 has been Released
On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 09:01:15 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I care. Anyone working for a similar organization very well understands why is not an excuse I consider acceptable. That same statement could be used to justify almost anything. I'm not sure how relevant this kind of philosophical discussion really is to the topic of this mailing list, but given that we're an open source project ourselves, I think there's some room for keeping in mind the reasons for what we're doing. i'm an OSS advocate and i work on several open source projects, but i'm also a realist and there are some things that a business should keep to it self. i'm sure nvidia has invested a large amount of money into their drivers for performance improvements and i can see why they wouldn't want to open source them. i don't see why that is a problem, its all about competition after all. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] new to list intro
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:27:07 -0500 Tom Poe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have svn installed. I would like the experts here to help me get cinelerra installed, correctly. I noticed there were some Fedora rpms available, and am now confused. Any advice or suggestions appreciated as to what steps to take. confused? welcome to the club! you are member number #2345222587 i'd suggest you get the freshrpms.net RPM packages, they are fairly new and will do everything for you, just yum install and you are done. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR
I agree with Herman on this issue. Cinelerra needs to do things cleanly, without using linux-specific hacks with pipes and scripts. I've been around this mailing list for a month or so and while i've got cinelerra installed on my system, i'm still not using it. I'll wait for another month or so and if cinelerra doesn't do proper DVD compatible output then i'll continue using Windoze and Pinnacle Studio. I may check back on cinelerra in a year or so... who knows. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] SMP or renderfarm?
What would be better, my Dual Dual Core Opteron (4 logical CPUs) or 4 single-cpu systems as a renderfarm? In other words, does cinelerra support proper spliting of rendering in SMP mode like it does for a renderfarm? ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Pentium D 2.6 GHz or AMD Semprom 3.0 GHz
On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:31:26 +0930 Pierre Marc Dumuid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious as to what people think about the performance of cinelerra. Which would be faster? A dual core or a AMD Semprom 3.0 Ghz (64 bit) I would also like some answers. I haven't started using cinelerra for real work but my tests show that many operations are single threaded. I'm testing it on a Dual Core Athlon 64 3800+ and so far i haven't seen any real SMP use. My other computer (my other car is a Porsche kinda thing) is a Dual Dual Core Opteron (4 logical cpus) and i'm really interested in SMP. About 64bit, i'd imagine that it only makes a difference if the developers are really using the 64bit long processing, otherwise just a 64bit compile won't make any real difference. You would notice a difference if you loaded 4GB of data in memory from a single file. I don't believe there are video/audio algorithms optimized for 64bits (except lame, the mp3 encoder that has some assembly optimizations). ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] should i move to cinelerra?
On Fri, 12 May 2006 10:01:01 +0200 (CEST) Stefan de Konink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'd like to avoid re-encoding over and over again. would it be possible to capture from my DV camera and to save in a format other than raw DV? Mmm... buggy, after doing serveral hours of raw dv files over 42GB of length it gets pretty stable ;) well, i loaded a simple AVI movie (xvid or divx codec i believe) and cinelerra lost A/V sync after about 10 minutes of editing :( ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] should i move to cinelerra?
On Fri, 12 May 2006 10:43:42 +0200 Andraz Tori [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cinelerra is tricky to use, you've got to know what you are doing. I suggest anyone that wants to learn it to FIRST at least skip through whole big manual, and then start to use it. Or go to a workshop or class about cinelerra. I'll probably start reading the manual and any tutorials that i can find. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Re: should i move to cinelerra?
On Fri, 12 May 2006 19:42:41 +0200 Ichthyostega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are no wizzards, online help, cheat sheets and the like. The user just needs to know precisely what he wants and what he is doing, that's the problem :-) no oneline help? does that mean nobody will help me if i ask questions in here? ;) Hasn't anyone written a step-by-step guide for new users? ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] should i move to cinelerra?
Hello everyone, this is my first time in this mailing list. I'd appriciate some help. I've got the following system: Dual Dual Core Opteron 270 (4 logical CPUs) 4GB ram PC3200 SCSI RAID (8 drives, 10.000rpm, U160) NVIDIA GeForce 7800GTX PCIExpress Unfortunately it runs Windoze Server 2003 64bit. I'm using Pinnacle Studio Plus v10 to create home movies (holidays etc) of about 2 hours in length each movie. These are my requirements: I want to be able to capture my DV camera footage, edit the movie and finaly export it to DVD (vob files or iso image and then burn it). My editing requirements are: Picture-In-Picture, transition effects, color correction, multiple audio streams like adding background music, text titles, scrolling text horizontaly and verticaly (end credits). So why am i here? Because i want to remove crappy windoze and use Linux instead. Thus, i've been looking for software which can fill in the above requirements. Yesterday, i joined your IRC channel and the nice people there told me that Cinelerra doesn't do proper capturing (i'd need to use Kino for example) and that it doesn't do any DVD authoring (no menus, no MPEG-2 dvd compatible export, no image generation). So far, the above limitations aren't a real problem, i can use Kino to capture my movie and i can use some other program to generate my DVD. BUT I do need all the editing features i've described above. I would appriciate some help from people who used Cinelerra for 2-hour long movies. Thank you. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] should i move to cinelerra?
On Thu, 11 May 2006 16:34:26 +0200 (CEST) Stefan de Konink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pinacle/Ulead/friends. But what is wrong with serperate programs doing this task? no problem at all i dont mind separate programs, but how about the editing features i asked about? does cinelerra support them? If you have such a cool machine I suggest gentoo, using the Cinelerra-svn ebuild from ebuild-exchange. And check it out. Probably better: get a live-cd from somewhere and check if you like it at all. I prefer Fedora Core 5, since thats what i use in all my machines and there is a repository with all the required packages (freshrpms.net). ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
