Re: [CinCVS] AMD64 better than P4

2006-04-27 Thread Andraz Tori
On čet, 2006-04-27 at 19:36 +1000, mark stavar wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/27/06, Andraz Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I also use Audacity and Gimp to create collateral materials.
> 
> 
> One of the things really missing in cinelerra is
> direct-to-mpeg2 audio
> +video export... anyone willing to write it?
> 
> bye
> andraz
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> How difficult is it likely to be?

a week of work to get the basics up, another for debugging.

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Re: [CinCVS] AMD64 better than P4

2006-04-27 Thread mark stavar
On 4/27/06, Andraz Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I also use Audacity and Gimp to create collateral materials.One of the things really missing in cinelerra is direct-to-mpeg2 audio+video export... anyone willing to write it?byeandraz
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Re: [CinCVS] AMD64 better than P4

2006-04-26 Thread Andraz Tori
On sre, 2006-04-26 at 09:50 -0500, Alex Ferrer wrote:
> I've never had a crash so far, but maybe it is because I've only created
> very simple menus with a background image, no music, and set-it to go
> ahead and burn directly to DVD.
> 
> The main reason I use QDVDAuthor, is because it is very easy to use and
> produces (at least for me) DVD's that will play on any DVD. (I do
> understand that proper rendering & mplexing is also critical)
> 
> IMHO, I believe that it is critical to have a complete set of tools to
> *painlessly* create fully working, profesional looking DVD's in Linux. It
> directly impacts the media production path line that Cinelerra is part of,
> and thus the growth of Cinelerra's largest potential userbase (the home
> amateur editor crowd)
> 
> Personally I use:
> 
> DVCam (Cannon zr40 ntsc) ->dvgrab->Cinelerra->QDVDAuthor->DVD
> 
> I also use Audacity and Gimp to create collateral materials.


One of the things really missing in cinelerra is direct-to-mpeg2 audio
+video export... anyone willing to write it?

bye
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Re: [CinCVS] AMD64 better than P4

2006-04-26 Thread Alex Ferrer
I've never had a crash so far, but maybe it is because I've only created
very simple menus with a background image, no music, and set-it to go
ahead and burn directly to DVD.

The main reason I use QDVDAuthor, is because it is very easy to use and
produces (at least for me) DVD's that will play on any DVD. (I do
understand that proper rendering & mplexing is also critical)

IMHO, I believe that it is critical to have a complete set of tools to
*painlessly* create fully working, profesional looking DVD's in Linux. It
directly impacts the media production path line that Cinelerra is part of,
and thus the growth of Cinelerra's largest potential userbase (the home
amateur editor crowd)

Personally I use:

DVCam (Cannon zr40 ntsc) ->dvgrab->Cinelerra->QDVDAuthor->DVD

I also use Audacity and Gimp to create collateral materials.

alx.
>BTW, how many times it crashed for you? I'v found it the only serious
>DVD authoring tool for linux, but really unstable.
>
>Regards
>Piotr L.


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Re: [CinCVS] AMD64 better than P4?

2006-04-26 Thread Nicolas
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 07:48:18AM +0200, Piotr Legiecki wrote:
> 
> >PS. While I am at it, I found that QDVDAuthor does a great job preparing
> > and burning DVD's that are compatible with all the DVD players I've so
> >far tried (about 8)
> 
> BTW, how many times it crashed for you? I'v found it the only serious 
> DVD authoring tool for linux, but really unstable.

I too use QDVDAuthor.

It crashes so many times I have to backup each 5 minutes. Moreover, the
.xml files it generates are full of bugs, and I have to edit them before
authoring the DVD. I tried DVDStyler, but there are far less features in
DVDStyler than QDVDAuthor. I think the developper should focus on
stability rather than putting new features.

Nicolas.

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Re: [CinCVS] AMD64 better than P4?

2006-04-26 Thread Piotr Legiecki



PS. While I am at it, I found that QDVDAuthor does a great job preparing
 and burning DVD's that are compatible with all the DVD players I've so
far tried (about 8)


BTW, how many times it crashed for you? I'v found it the only serious 
DVD authoring tool for linux, but really unstable.


Regards
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Re: [CinCVS] AMD64 better than P4?

2006-04-24 Thread Pierre Marc Dumuid
I used to find that my laptop was slow if I booted without the A/C power 
adapter plugged in.  I then discovered that the reason was the cpu was 
throttled to 700 MHz rather than full speed.
You may want to ensure that the cpu-throttling is working correctly!  I 
don't have my laptop here, but I recall writing a script that did 
something like:


cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq > 
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq
cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq > 
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq

Not sure if this helps??

Pierre

Leo germani wrote:


Ive got an AMD64 Laptop.

Its performance is worse than my Athlon XP2000 desktop (either in Debian
64 and Slackware 64)

Leo,,

On 4/23/06, RedEnzian - open source group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


I have to decide if i buy a p4 or an amd64 athlon (opteron is too
expensive
for me). What does cinelerra more accelerate?

Thanks,

Christoph


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Re: [CinCVS] AMD64 better than P4?

2006-04-24 Thread Alex Ferrer
I am running Cinelerra with great success on a:

AMD Athlon64X2 3200, 2gig ram and 300 gig IDE drive running on Ubuntu
Brezzy 32.

My Cinelerra installation was straight from synaptic.

For a while playback performance was horrible, but then I found out my
motherboard did not really suported AGP, and the NVIDIA videocard was not
perofrming at all. I then switched to a Geforce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI
Express x16 Video card, and now it rocks!.

I get 29fps on straight HD 1080i playback, (3 to 7 when applying effects)

On plain DV Encoding a 7 minute DV (720x480) to mpeg (.mpv) for latter use
on DVD takes about 4.5 minutes, encoding the audio (.mpa) takes about 30
seconds. When encoding CPU utilization goes to 80%+80%, so it is perfectly
usable for any other tasks.

I have also loaded Cinelerra on Ubuntu Brezzy 64, and since I did not
noticed inmediate improvements, I sticked with Brezzy 32, as it was more
convenient for me. (Still got it on my dual boot)

Good luck with your system choice.

alx.

PS. While I am at it, I found that QDVDAuthor does a great job preparing
 and burning DVD's that are compatible with all the DVD players I've so
far tried (about 8)




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Re: [CinCVS] AMD64 better than P4?

2006-04-24 Thread Uwe Konrad
Am Montag, 24. April 2006 13:42 schrieb Leo germani:
> Ive got an AMD64 Laptop.
>
> Its performance is worse than my Athlon XP2000 desktop (either in
> Debian 64 and Slackware 64)
>
> Leo,,
>
> On 4/23/06, RedEnzian - open source group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have to decide if i buy a p4 or an amd64 athlon (opteron is too
> > expensive
> > for me). What does cinelerra more accelerate?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Christoph
> >
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??? Here i am running AMD64 X2 3800+ with 1 GB mem and its fast and 
stable as hell running FC4 x86_64 ( and i am an "Poweruser" ). Before i had 
an  Athlon 2600+. With ffmpeg i can encode dv full resolution video saved 
from cinelerra to dvd mpeg faster than realtime and run other applications in 
foreground without long dropouts or hangs. The speed of an computer is not 
only the cpu also the board, harddisk, where is what partition etc. The trick 
is to find an hardware configuration that runs smooth together . Here it is 
AMD64 X2 3800+, Asus Sli Deluxe, Adaptec Scsi Ultra 160 with linux system on 
one scsi disk and all video data on ide ( xfs ), my home is mounted over nfs 
from my little ( yes little and 6 years old ) server. This was the first time 
i upgraded my computer and there was a recognizible faster speed since 
upgrading my orginal Amiga 2000 with an 30MHZ Accelerator Card in 
1989 :)) :)) yes. But sorry, i never had an P4.
It is possible that the libdv version #leo runs on his laptop is the reason 
for the bad performace. Here i had only ~5 frames per second when i began my 
experience with 64bit system. Now i use an cvs? version self compiled and the 
playback performace is very very good.

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Re: [CinCVS] AMD64 better than P4?

2006-04-24 Thread Leo germani
Ive got an AMD64 Laptop.

Its performance is worse than my Athlon XP2000 desktop (either in Debian 64 and Slackware 64)

Leo,,On 4/23/06, RedEnzian - open source group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [CinCVS] AMD64 better than P4?

2006-04-23 Thread Andraz Tori
Get a dual core processor if you can, be it Intel or AMD.

bye
andraz

On ned, 2006-04-23 at 13:29 +0200, RedEnzian - open source group wrote:
> I have to decide if i buy a p4 or an amd64 athlon (opteron is too expensive 
> for me). What does cinelerra more accelerate?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Christoph
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[CinCVS] AMD64 better than P4?

2006-04-23 Thread RedEnzian - open source group
I have to decide if i buy a p4 or an amd64 athlon (opteron is too expensive 
for me). What does cinelerra more accelerate?

Thanks,

Christoph


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